Social Worker Pretends to be 13-Years-Old and Enrolls in Seventh Grade | Shelby Hewitt Case Analysis

[@atoitoh2989]

I'm 73 years old but could probably get away with claiming to be 72.

[@Christina.N.]

😂

[@swampsprite9]

Lol

[@AllGoodOutside]

I just turned 47 this month but I think I could probably get away with claiming I was 67. lol

[@mamaboocee]

​@AllGoodOutside you beat me to it! I was going to say I am 68 but look an amazing 88!

[@l.w.paradis2108]

61

[@NotSoNormal1987]

I have had a recurring nightmare about being back in high school. I don't know why anyone would want to go back.

[@TronBonneVonne]

Same. I remember when I graduated from high school decades upon decades ago, and I kept having nightmares over the following summer. The nightmares had me convinced I had to return to school because of a clerical error that granted me a diploma prematurely. Thank goodness it wasn't true, my school was a war zone. Literally.

[@Lilstinkysweater]

​@@TronBonneVonnethis is crazy because this is also my recurring nightmare. Exact same scenario and everything.

[@sibyl513]

I get those too. It's gotta be those people who view their school years as the peak of their lives

[@NobodyHasToAgreeAllTheTime]

Facts I have a recurring nightmare about being in middle school. I can tell I’m an adult but no one else notices and I’m forced to go to classes

[@oldpunker885]

Some people peaked in high school

[@decacards5250]

"The students teased her and told her she looked 30, when in fact they were incorrect. She was actually 32." 🤣. Dr Grande is off the hook. LOL.

[@brianbagnall3029]

The kids are definitely smarter than their teachers.

[@curlyhairdudeify]

​@@brianbagnall3029 I work at X-place, and my supervisor tells me that I'm going to get in trouble for guesstimating people's ages.... She is like, "How do you know she is 30, how do you know he is 50"..... I'm like, I have eyes.

[@whitepouch0904]

@@curlyhairdudeify eyes and intuition

[@DavidPT40]

Dr. Grande comes off with some great one liners....

[@zxyatiywariii8]

​@@curlyhairdudeifyThere's a guy where I used to work who was brilliant at that, he could guess anyone's age _to the exact year!_ It was so cool!

[@JohnBurman-l2l]

In South Africa I was teaching a course in a rural school. There was a middle aged woman in the class wearing a child's school uniform. She told me she had no other way to become educated....and was happy.

[@muffnman980]

How did that work ?

[@Betyourbottomdollar1]

Not very well ​@@muffnman980

[@buyimncube2588]

It was a sincere cause I suppose, no identity was stolen or even lied about her age. She purely wanted education or to read and write atleast

[@RCenal]

Ok That I can get with She tried to better herself There are other means but you know what I can help her out in that scenario

[@lalaland2107]

That's so sad. I hope she continued her education. Bless her ❤

[@Snakesnarl]

Having to hang out with seventh graders all day would drive me to the brink

[@someguy7424]

To be fair, most kids I went to school with in 7th grade were more well behaved than many adults I’ve had to tolerate.

[@peaceandquiet1983]

It did me in, that grade. I'll NEVER teach junior high ever again.

[@melissamartinez3593]

Right what a crazy ass hoooo

[@y_knot_tri]

Dude, she is already way past the brink.

[@adotintheshark4848]

if she was a guy I'd think "pedo"

[@MakaylaPaterson]

She was pretending to be 13 but drove a car to school and even THAT wasn't enough? Oh my gosh.

[@ivanbasson982]

Maybe it is not unusual to complete Lower Grade School at 30...

[@cbadbeachbabe69]

She was pretending to be 16 when she was driving the car to school

[@ranman7688]

I think she was only doing that at the school where she was pretending to be 16.

[@1stcal11-b2]

Hahahaha! Imagine her being 13, smoking a cigarette, diving a Tahoe telling stories about being in Vietnam while sitting in the cafeteria eating a pudding snack!? 😂👏😂👏😂👏😂

[@LBdreamin]

It was when she was portraying the INDIGENT 16 y/o. They were surprised she was driving a car because of her socioeconomic status, not her age.

[@tacomandon]

This is insane. She had a million inheritance, a decent government job, and decided to roleplay as a teenager???

[@Meg-A-Saurus]

It's always these "types," too. Have all the luck in the world, and it gets squandered somehow.

[@UsandEveryoneWeKnow]

She's obviously not ok at all.

[@Wasserkaktus]

She really needed some hobbies.

[@ksb7713]

I don't personally know about any research suggesting that inheriting a few million or having a job is a reliable treatment for what she likely suffers from.

[@Wasserkaktus]

@@ksb7713 Lol you're right. I think the poster of this comment was trying to suggest the amount of interests she could have taken up with these resources should have been far more than enough to fulfill whatever she felt unfulfilled with.

[@notapottopissin7493]

the fact that she thought she could pass for a 13 year old has just blown my mind. then to complain because her "peers" could see that she was AT LEAST 30 is just diabolical😂

[@davesrvchannel4717]

So 13yr old students thought the story didn’t add up, but 2 adults giving her a place to stay didn’t seem alarmed? Hmmmm

[@andyygroe]

The fact they both retained higher powered attorneys leads me to believe something more sinister was afoot. Maybe this couple was into younger girls if you catch my drift, but didn't realize they were being played too. In a way it's poetic justice.

[@1WEareBUFO1]

Swinger Role-playing went too far

[@chrw756]

​@@andyygroeTbh it makes sense to me. Like, you're a bleeding heart social worker and you think you're overstepping a professional boundry in an altruistic way by helping a homeless teen, Only to find out she's a 30yr old fraudster making news headlines. I'd lawyer up too.

[@andyygroe]

@@chrw756 doesn't make sense. Even bleeding heart "liberals'" don't just bring underage girls into their homes

[@LCM-f3y]

They knew she was an adult. ​@@chrw756

[@13donstalos]

"Her appearance is caused by a genetic condition." Yeah. It's called aging.

[@madmaverick]

And worse still, it's terminal!

[@puddincup9879]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@ArtemisKitty]

OMG, I can't believe this comment doesn't have more updoots! You're killin' me! Well, here's one more! 🤣🤣🤣

[@fabirkemarian6370]

​@@madmavericki understand they're still searching for a cure to this common condition among humans.😂

[@MalakLulua]

😂😂😂😂

[@cpdreyer]

Imagine getting yelled at by your parents and school admin for bullying the weird girl who looks way too old to be in school only to be validated later when she is exposed as a fraud. I'd never let the "adults in charge" live that down.

[@nordicpink]

Yeah. Seems like they should have been held accountable.

[@lestranged]

kids that age are bullies but they are also KEENLY observant of anyone who is different. For example most school shooters were well known as weirdos by the other students, long before they snap. Teens pay attention to red flags that the adults ignore.

[@BasedRedemption]

​I highly disagree with that, they are the red flags. And those same people doing the bullying would probably have snapped themselves if the tables were turned. The difference is that one hsd a support system, the other did not. Unless you're implying they were born that way? We can go down that road, but then we'd have to talk about certain demographics being inherently more violent and how the teens of today embrace and enable that violent culture, so they are the worst in identifying any red flags if that toxic culture is so propagated and embedded into modern culture and kept popular by teens well into their adulthood​@@lestranged

[@dickottel]

still nothing justifies the bullying. and what if there was an actual child with an older looking face?

[@Corn0nTheCobb]

​@@nordicpinkheld accountable how? lol

[@Curlyblonde]

When I was 25, people thought I looked around 34, which annoyed me. When I was 55, people were consistently guessing my age at around 45 (no plastic surgery) and thought my grandchildren were my children. They were not at all pleased with that and began to rebel about going anywhere or being seen with me. It is my hope that when I turn 75, people who don't know me will guesstimate my age at around 35 years (no plastic surgery needed). That way I can say that I have completed The Circle of Life.

[@jammiejammed]

benjamin button irl

[@Wasserkaktus]

Your math doesn't add up: You should look 25 at 75.

[@xBoojum]

Were you overweight at 25? I feel like that makes people look a lot older than they are because most people at that age are still slim. However by 50s most people are overweight also so you can look relatively younger

[@Curlyblonde]

@@xBoojum No actually I was tall and underweight when I was 25. Started filling out more when I got into my 40s.

[@derrickrr5516]

@@Curlyblonde Your comment is worthless without pics! 😁 Did you go gluten free in your 40’s? My wife did and went from a 32D to 32DDD in just over a year. She only gained two pounds. You can guess where.

[@jasmincampbell8105]

😂 the children had more intelligence than their educators.

[@GAshoneybear]

Right? I was wondering how no adult questioned her or her story.

[@Tainotito40]

Like 45 a PATHOLOGICAL liar

[@sugarpuddin]

To be sure, narcissists move themselves into positions of power: education, politics, law enforcement

[@Hollylivengood]

Middle schoolers. Remember that age? They notice everything. We saw all kinds of things at that age, and would tell the adults around us...who would tell us we were lying, just like they did with these kids. Mercy. It probably made it a game for them that way.

[@SynthoidSounds]

These days, the concept of the students having more intelligence than the teachers is not that far-fetched at all.

[@aquatarkus2022]

I would have falsified my identity to get OUT of high school.

[@MusMasi]

ikr? 🤣

[@sarahjaye4117]

Lol

[@vivienm2037]

Same

[@allkindsamusicchick]

I had nightmares for years....that I didn't graduate....when I actually had. Something about Biology Class....

[@jlseagull2.060]

Me2

[@pamelamays4186]

School staff: Why is that kid's car nicer than mine?

[@larryjohnny]

I think you mean, why is her e-bike better than my car?

[@starmiesteele1034]

Ikr middle school jeez..I don't get it

[@13donstalos]

Also: why is she the only 7th grader that drives to school?

[@remypascal4872]

School staff: "Be tolerant and let her compensate, that she is a poor girl with her older look!" The poor girl card is playable at these chaotic, wannabe modern educators and social workers, school psychologists.

[@kendraheard8240]

😂😂

[@TiffWaffles]

I've heard about this story with a news channel. There were women all in the comments section going 'OMG, I NEEEEDZ this woman's skincare routine. Imagine being mistaken for a young teenager'. Yet, she only fooled adults and not the very children whose age she was trying to pretend to be.

[@SynthoidSounds]

She was teased, students saying she looked 30 . . . "The students, of course, were incorrect, she was actually 32". Your penchant for dry humor never ceases to amaze . . .

[@appletherapy]

She has a stronger jawline than me and I'm a couple years younger than her.

[@RaptorFromWeegee]

@@appletherapy No kidding, I thought she looked pretty damned young. She probably got sick of doormen demanding her ID or not believing she was over 21. Said to herself; "They think I'm underaged? That what they want? FINE, I'll really give them some underage!"

[@gonelucid]

Her hairline is worse than mine and im a 35 yr old male​@appletherapy

[@ditzygypsy]

@@RaptorFromWeegeeIt’s kind of flattering being ID’d when you’re of age. The last time I was ID’d, I was 46. And it was at a pharmacy buying OTC Gravol. 🤣 Legal age is 19 here.

[@RaptorFromWeegee]

@@ditzygypsy Go take a backpacking trip around all the encampment places where runaways hang out. Don't bring ID. Eventually the cops'll pick you as a wayward minor. Don't tell them anything. You'll soon find yourself in foster care and enrolled in some HS. Once your curiosities satisfied, then run away for real, and once you're home, write a book about it. It'd actually be very interesting to hear a 46 year olds insider impressions of what its like to dwell amongst the Zoomers & Alphas.

[@LD-qj2te]

Weird weird weird. Hanging around with 13 year old sounds like the worst day ever

[@mikecynic5167]

I love my daughter to death, but yeah, hanging out with a gang of teenagers sounds fucking awful. Hard enough to deal with one hormonal teenage girl...let alone 10 of them, lol.

[@EmilyElizabethxox]

God I know. I mean I’m sure 13 year olds are fine when you’re raising one, but spending a day in a classroom full of today’s preteens? I imagine a lot of annoying TikTok brain rot and slang I don’t understand. 😂

[@mikecynic5167]

@@EmilyElizabethxox My daughter just turned 20. I'm so glad the teenage years are over 🤣🤣🤣

[@elliotoliver8679]

@@EmilyElizabethxox13 is obviously not pre-teen

[@nordicpink]

That’s how you know she’s crazy.

[@michelegyselinck5400]

What is the idea of pretending to be 13 when you're an adult? I WOULD NOT want to go back to that part of my life if you gave me a billion dollars.

[@cjjohnson9413]

mic-not even if you knew what you do now?

[@matthewcunningham1190]

A billion $$$ on damn that’s tempting!

[@OhtheSuffering]

Jokes aside, I think some people just grow weary of the demands of adulthood and want to go back to that carefree part of their lives. Hanging with friends, sitting and sleeping through an inconsequential class, feeling the zest of youth, etc.

[@plumucci]

The only rationale I can see is if a social worker wanted to find out hidden truths to write a book about or something? There is a story out and about of a female cop who did this as these kids live n such a private world-but this doesn’t sound rational.

[@ImNotaRussianBot]

This is my literal nightmare.

[@theothqueenofengland]

Both of my parents are retired social workers and my mom was licensed to be a therapist, though she never set up a private practice. My dad was a supervisor at DCYF in RI. He has a lot of stories but one thing he always brings up is that “the employees were worse than the clients.” He sent one social worker home to take a shower. He told another to stop bringing a gun to work. He depicts a lot of them as being lazy and odd. My mother left DCYF and moved to a school system, where she was much happier. I should run this story by them for their thoughts.

[@Jjj6212]

I got my bachelor's in psychology back in the 80s, got accepted to go the entire med school doctorate psychiatrist program but I was exhausted and I had to work full time but psychiatrists used to be the number one medical profession to commit suicide (known to be nuts). In the mid 2000s I think oncologists took the spot, having worked for an oncologist they professionally poison cancer patients with a smile, getting paid extra for research and cut a 2 year prognosis to 2 months, so I hope they still top the list of suicides.

[@nicknatuzzi2652]

@@Jjj6212Glad to hear someone else admit these facts!!

[@aresjerry]

Yeah because they can't get other high skilled jobs.

[@supramby]

Lazy and odd. We can accept that answer.

[@clairewillow6475]

If she had pretended to be in grade 10 instead of seventh grade she might have got away with it

[@brandonburum8279]

…if it weren’t for those meddling kids, right?

[@RaptorFromWeegee]

@@brandonburum8279 LMFAO! Was just goin to post the same thing. Only gen-x gets the reference.

[@brandonburum8279]

@@RaptorFromWeegee - Technically, I’m a Millennial, but an older one…

[@warrensteel9954]

It sounds like she didn't like the amount of homework...

[@RaptorFromWeegee]

@@brandonburum8279 They still had scooby-do in your day?

[@lashlarue59]

So the kids recognized she was older but none of the adults did?

[@AH-pw1im]

Yes :'] go figure.

[@mikepalmer1971]

Just another example of why I roll my eyes when people act like teachers are something special and exalted. Lol.

[@Lepordtalonwarrior]

@@mikepalmer1971literally nobody claims that. If you actually talk to educators, they’d let you know that they are all regular people and fallible.

[@mikepalmer1971]

@@Lepordtalonwarrior Ok whatever. We are always told how teachers are somehow special. Lol.

[@HumanimalChannel]

The wokies were too busy Affirming every unicorn flurfie and transchild

[@denniscrannie1126]

This does not make sense to me at all! She has a masters degree, a state full-time job, and an inheritance, and she goes back to high school? My brain hurts.😢

[@ArtU4All]

And she gets to NOT do her FT job while receiving the salary. Also, what inheritance if family had money trouble and and filed for bankruptcy several times? Buy a condo for cash, $377K?????? Bizarre and very successful for someone with a “mental health” problem

[@evelynwaugh4053]

It would almost make sense if she was an investigative journalist, or a documentarian, or a writer, although it would still be very Machiavelian and amoral. She must be a very strange person to find attention based on fabrication rewarding, or to enjoy the society of teens as peers.

[@francislutz8027]

Middle school, 7th grade

[@MsAchampion]

She's a special kind of person because I would have been far far away from a high school!

[@hulkslayer626]

I think he said she had no degree or training. The woman who took her home had the masters degree. And the inheritance was from her grandfather(step?). Him and her mother just died around the same time, that's why it sounded like the inheritance was from her maybe.

[@helenwoods1467]

In school, everyone hated me, or just ignored me, at best. I could not imagine a worse place to find a loving family atmosphere. Addicted to being bullied, more like

[@aftersexhighfives]

Or addicted to being the victim

[@skylark.kraken]

I would much rather die than go back to my school, however, my wife went to a boarding school and she loved it, enough that I would have preferred to go to her school rather than mine. Although, that's me wanting to replace my school experience with hers and not me wanting to go back and go through school again

[@TheAllAmericanSocialistMTR1000]

Posing as a middle school student when in your 30s is absolutely insane.

[@MrThe1234guy]

No the fact that anyone believed her is more insane

[@HotTakeAndy]

You couldn’t even pass as a high schooler at that age.

[@MoZiNoY]

it’s pedo like behavior

[@williamlloyd5600]

Welcome to America baby!! It's just one BIG Mental Institution really!! and now the king of CRAZY!! Trump is in charge!! What a Sh*thole!!😂

[@sofiar3176]

The scariest part is that she was well educated with a mastered degree?? And was a school counselor. This is why we can never judge a book by its cover. People are CRAZY.

[@jguenther3049]

Using the term "crazy" is insensitive and may even trigger some people, with.serious consequences. The preferred 21st Century terminology is "barmy in the crumpet."

[@SoulSoundMuisc]

​@jguenther3049 oh, dang and here I've been using wackadoodle in the noodle! I'm so behind the times.

[@jguenther3049]

@@SoulSoundMuisc There's always non compost mentis

[@outoftheboxies]

Only in Merica

[@mammadingo9165]

Yep and here I was hesitating to create a website for my art 🤷‍♀️ 😅 goodness me this lady beyond flipped

[@haleyw5677]

DCF hiring people like this makes me understand why they are so incompetent

[@LilithsCosmicLounge]

It explains a lot really,.. a lot of ppl in positions they shouldn’t be in…

[@ivanbasson982]

Maybe Shelby is just very immatire for her age....

[@hanniballecter4454]

I know a dcfs supervisor who had lost her 2 kids, let time pass, and is now a supervisor there. These jobs attract these kinds of people, they need to do a court background check.

[@Wardaddy51-50]

​@hanniballecter4454 maybe she got the job for revenge.

[@Rebecca-hc5ju]

​@@hanniballecter4454😮😮

[@kp5496]

Random Story: I’m 30 but live in a senior apartment complex and when paramedics come they’re always shocked I’m here and I say “i know right, I look good for 87” and they crack up 😂

[@spawn302]

Lmao how do you even pul that off? Aren't they restricted to seniors??

[@sws212]

⁠@@spawn302probably with parents on some loophole. There was this one story about a kid whose parents died and had to live with his grandparents and the senior community made a big fuss until it became a news story.

[@SJHFoto]

@@sws212 That's a main plot point in the Sammy Keyes series

[@vickiesims1600]

Kids seem to have an intuition when something is 'wrong' with someone who is interacting with them---hunches when someone seems 'pervy' or unsafe to them, or someone not being truthful....

[@puddincup9879]

And the no good adults ignore them!

[@Eman_Puedama]

You don't need any special intuition to tell a woman in her 30's from a 13 yr old.

[@AlexisTwoLastNames]

@@Eman_Puedamaapparently you do if you’re an adult in that school lmao

[@Ytvzoey]

Yes. And she likely just didn’t fit in with 13 year olds of this generation. She seemed like their mom acting like a 13 year old. Kids pick up on that kind of stuff - very good pattern recognition of what stands out.

[@nixm9093]

She looked 30. Believing your eyes is not special intuition 😂

[@SentMyOwnWay]

People thought a 30-year-old woman was 13? Her skincare routine must be immaculate.

[@carfo]

most people don't understand just how effective social engineering is

[@HeyitsBri_]

I want a tutorial immediately

[@Nom8d]

I mean teenagers are not exactly known for their skin.

[@Nick-b7b9s]

Gives hope to all the 40 year old women trying to pass themselves off as 27!😂

[@aleksandarkovacevic7138]

Cosmetic companies doesnt want you to know her secret

[@alecxsandra]

“The students teased her and said she looks like she’s 30. They were of course incorrect. Shelby was actually at that time 32.” I subscribed immediately 😅

[@lindsierose797]

She couldn't even pass for a 20-year-old! What is wrong with these adults?!

[@MrAnthonyIII]

Crazy how they tried to gaslight the kids who knew she wasn't their age by acting like "stop being mean, you guys! She has a genetic condition and she's very sensitive :(

[@RaptorFromWeegee]

They've aggressively proclaimed big hulking genetic males with thick beards and deep scary voices as girls. Is it that much more of a leap to proclaim 32 yr old a teen? And enforce the proclamation by threat of cancelation?

[@jaylucas8352]

She identifies as a 12 year old leave her aloneee

[@BigDaddyCola]

This is a very loose use of the word gaslighting. By all accounts the staff had been tricked and genuinely believed they were dealing with a teenager in foster care. That's not gaslighting.

[@terisaclothier2588]

Idiots - as a former teacher, degrees to not =intelligence both emotional and academic intelligence. Sad but true​@@BigDaddyCola

[@vejet]

She wasn't lying about the very sensitive part.

[@kiwiy2k]

I’m a social worker of 15yrs. Thank you for making clear that she had no social work training or credentials. THIS is why title protection is SO important. This whole situation and her struggles are quite unfortunate.

[@MDuarte-vp7bm]

​@stanlyqbrick1621No it wouldn't. The meritocracy you speak of existed at a time when you could become a doctor by paying for a license. It was a myth.

[@jessebailey5962]

​@@MDuarte-vp7bmyou think people aren't out there today buying degrees? You really are dumb.

[@cherylmockotr]

That part surprises me, that people without a social work degree can assume the title of social worker? The same for mental health counselor? Yet you don't sound surprised... is this a state by state issue? Maybe my state has better laws about false impersonation of professional degrees?

[@MDuarte-vp7bm]

@stanlyqbrick1621 okay, grandma.

[@armedjoy3045]

I'm with you in this case. It's also just yet another example of people getting into social work because they themselves are messed up. I'm guilty of that too.

[@Mr_Case_Time]

I bet lots of people could tell she was older, but didn’t want to offend her by bringing it up.

[@melissadunton3534]

Yep. Because the world we live in today isn’t friendly to facts or truth. I don’t see how she did anything wrong…if she identifies as a 13 year old then she is a 13 years old…right?

[@somehaloguy9372]

​@@melissadunton3534 that wasn't it, it was the fraud and forged documents that got her

[@jennyhaslayer1396]

​@@melissadunton3534 youre a freak for not seeing the clear difference in those two things, thanks.

[@melissadunton3534]

@@jennyhaslayer1396 in what two things? I don’t see where I mentioned anything specifically… other than someone’s “age”.

[@dickjohnson9582]

​@@melissadunton3534so you think that's the problem with today's world not accepting facts? That there are too many people pretending to be a different age.

[@DenyDefendDepose358]

The detail about the Freaky Friday reference really attests to how well-researched and well-rounded your videos are Dr Grande. Thank you for your consistent hard work. The insight you provide has helped me so much to understand people better in general. I hope they make this story into a movie. It reminds me of Catch Me if You Can.

[@Tormekia]

Uuuuugh middle school. If there is a hell, it's all of us waking up in an eternal middle school.

[@sarahjaye4117]

Ugh for real! Both my best friends moved and then we did, what a nightmare.

[@strumminronin]

Proper hellish years.

[@XiaoFury]

I wish I knew about Ned's Declassified School Survival Guide while I was in middle school. That show was a hoot, but some of the tips were helpful. I absolutely hated middle school.

[@Spiderpunkrocks]

Stop this comment literally gave me chills... Not the eternal middle school 😭😭

[@TranswealthyTrillionaire]

I understand wanting to go back to high school, but anyone who wants to go back to middle school is a nutcase

[@tanyaedwards4574]

You just said exactly what my conclusion was, Dr. Grande, she had such a lousy life as a 13 and 16yo, she wanted to reconstrut it to make it right, and she was a "social worker" to help others. I feel sadness with this case, who knows how her mind perceived her life at the *actual* ages of 13 and 16... Thank you Dr. G!

[@mrs.reluctant4095]

I feel sad for her for the same reason, thank you for your comment.

[@edmann1820]

100% agree. I'd add that there was almost certainly a motivation of a cry for help. It does seem like she wanted to be caught. Perhaps seeing the care/sympathy people had for 13 year old who have suffered abuse she wanted that care and attention herself.

[@JA-jx1hk]

No lol she just wanted to prey on teenage boys

[@andyygroe]

Hey zealot your heart is bleeding. She was a sick and twisted bitch. Period.

[@televishenimoniker5546]

Abuse victims sometimes recreate the abusive circumstances and overcome it for a cathartic experience. It is a documented pattern & can lead to a repeat of abuse, ubfortunately.

[@wallhagens2001]

Going back to college would be fun. Going back to high school? No.

[@Jennifermcintyre]

Right!! I’d have to completely lose my entire mind to even think about doing that!!

[@kaykween-b4k]

Right.

[@annaf3915]

I'd like to go back to elementary so I can really shine with my grades

[@cassiefuchs3657]

Plus you don't even have to create a new identity for college.

[@MusMasi]

@@lostsoul1278 I had a good time there but why go back as an ADULT?

[@StaticKayK-z2c]

Nicely done! This is my favorite episode so far. Full of facts, and you did an excellent job laying out the facts.

[@mgraulau]

We can be judged for judging others yet mocked for not trusting our gut feelings about something.

[@kitkat186]

NAILED IT

[@lightningsam]

Fr

[@SnaFubar_24]

exactly, your supposed to maintain your sense of compassion while calling out the lying f**ks around you...

[@nervousninney]

As wacky as this woman's behavior is she's actually wildly creative determined and imaginative. It's alarming how many people she fooled. This is most def NETFLIX material. Thank u, Dr G.

[@sherry8444]

The Orphan (2009) already done this exact plot

[@ArtU4All]

I found Netflix “documentaries” biased and sensationalist, never truly getting to the gut of the issues from all possible sides. Just a vehicle to get views. Stopped watching them. Last I watched was the billionaire-Epstein one

[@maxw5900]

It's nice that you're praising her 🙄, smh.

[@poindextertunes]

⁠@@maxw5900great takeaway there, champ

[@magovenor]

Really? But the kids at an urban school were able to see through her in no time. She only fraudulently got passed those same adults who demand that kids don’t have to accept their gender identity from birth.

[@stevemorris270]

I think I'll throw a "Now moving to my final thoughts" into every conversation from now on.

[@sarahjaye4117]

Ha

[@JenniferNewLife144]

lol

[@jemsmom97]

😂

[@AdaptiveApeHybrid]

If only people were normally this succinct 😍

[@djquinn11]

Why not, “I’m only speculating about what could be happening in a situation like this”?

[@Invis3mil]

13 is such a stretch 😭 A High school is so much easier to hide in aswell. Teachers are more on you in middle school, only downside is hs work is actually difficult.

[@grumpyoldlady_rants]

If I had inherited a million dollars when I was young and single, I certainly wouldn’t go back to my school days. I attended five high schools, four of them in two years (due to family issues and moving a lot). I also attended five elementary schools and one junior high (7-9). I have zero desire to return to those days.

[@ContentRemoved___]

Happy Gilmore

[@lisapalmeno4488]

And working a job for $51,000 a year... Ridiculous.

[@Job.Well.Done_01]

How do you think all that change directed your life as you grew to become an adult?

[@katherinemurphree6858]

Billy Madison

[@hillaryh5807]

@@lisapalmeno4488that she wasn’t even doing it sounds like!

[@pamcornelius9122]

Dr. Grande is the hardest working man on KZbin!

[@mindareinetels6047]

I agree

[@jackiescotland]

He's good and I enjoy his videos but not as good as Pat Brown criminal profiler's channel

[@victoriajagtiani]

Something similar happened in Fairfax , VA in the year 2000. A 27 y/o man made fake Dreamworks documents, posed as Steven Spielberg’s nephew, “Jonathan Taylor Spielberg,” and enrolled in a Catholic high school for some time. No one asked any questions. It was quite the scandal.

[@PamelaH_HappyVibes]

How do they get away with this? It doesn’t make any sense.

[@mikepalmer1971]

Did he give a reason as to why he did it? This stuff is so freaking weird.

[@Katarina-ds5mj]

Posed as Spielberg’s nephew and enrolled in a Catholic High School? Did they ask him why he wasn’t Jewish like the rest of Spielberg’s family?

[@ronfroehlich4697]

There was a 24 year old guy that went to my high school for a minute in the nineties. Turned out he was wanted for murder in another state and was pretending to be a school kid to evade the law

[@zxyatiywariii8]

Why? Was he making a documentary or something? You couldn't PAY me to go to school as a 7th grader! 😳

[@Doppe1ganger]

I think many people fantacize about going back to a particular time in their history and being different to how they were, not awkward or afraid or standing up to bullies or not shying away from creating friends, etc,...

[@devonglide1830]

I work at a school with an age range up to grade 12. In my opinion, she clearly looks physically different than any teen I’ve seen. How the adult staff and guidance counselors are unable to see that she’s not a teen is flabbergasting.

[@localbod]

There is an old school phrase: B*llsh!t baffles brains.

[@bsadewitz]

I thought this through a little, and I'm not especially confident in any of my hypotheses, as the circumstances are just OUT THERE. My best guess is that no one wanted to be the one that "rocked the boat". That is, various teachers and other officials presumed that her age was properly vetted prior to her attendance and left it at that. The culture at the school (as a workplace) discouraged dissent, maybe. We also don't know whether or not any teachers did, in fact, speak to the administration about it. Perhaps he mentioned it, but I don't recall. One would think that it would be even more obvious that she WASN'T a teen given that she was SURROUNDED BY THEM AT ALL TIMES, lol. My other hypothesis is some sort of mass psychogenic illness, but that is weak, and hardly even means anything. Yeah, I'm going with "motivated reasoning".

[@bsadewitz]

I don't believe that NO ONE noticed. That is EXTREMELY UNLIKELY. I simply don't believe it--can't believe it. However, noticing SOMETHING is different from having the conviction that she was a woman in her 30s. Perhaps they thought that she MAY HAVE BEEN, let's say, 19-21. Perhaps they were aware of something, but didn't want to deprive her of a place to go to school. What if she had some twisted life history and really needed to be there? It's easy to say "well, ok, but she just shouldn't have been there". It's different when you actually have to make a real consequential decision. And, as I alluded to previously, there could have been ramifications for anyone who stuck their neck out and was wrong (for teachers and administrators alike). But u actually work at a school, so how plausible do these scenarios seem to you?

[@cymrucat]

So basically you would risk being an adult body shaming a child to call this out yeah when you actually think about the implications I don't think you would. This scam basically relies on adults being incredibly unsuspicious which in America man you people got that in spades you literally lock people up for being paranoid even though that is the best way to test if something is up. The moon is made of Whoopi Goldberg if you're not allowed to say it maybe it's true

[@FranzSelf]

@@bsadewitz jus wait till it was prom, the shi* would be so funny like in an awkward way. She mighta asked the student out sadie hawkins-style... Driving him around in her car.

[@sergeipohkerova7211]

Well, that's enough internet for me today 😮. Off to the garden to plant azaleas it is, then.

[@hannahriley8085]

Good choice!

[@yoitired]

I feel you, backyard camping for me.

[@madwhitehare3635]

Nearer to God in a garden than anywhere else on earth...especially Uchoobs!

[@sarahschlichter6059]

😂

[@kelkilkat]

LOL

[@minim3494]

I hated school but part of me wonders if I'd go back in time, knowing what I know now and do it differently and erase the trauma of it...chances are I'd just embarrass myself in new ways though.

[@jheanelltabana8713]

Going back in time might be okay, but would you de-age yourself now and go to school today? I might try the time travel, but I don't see the allure in what she did.

[@austinclements8010]

same here, id fall flat on my face xD

[@entrippyZ]

On the off chance you do, just make sure the 13 y old you invests in bitcoin.

[@firstmkb]

The problem is with kids who are class A Holes.

[@AssistanceDogEducation]

yeh I sometimes wish I could go back now that I'm more socially aware (I'm autistic so school was super hard) but yeh I'd probably find new ways to embarrass myself too

[@laurajane4806]

CPS workers are exempt from social work status, but are allowed to be called social workers. Most people don't know that. The people interrogating their children aren't really qualified to do so. They have a bachelor's degree and a seminar certificate.

[@oversizerunescape]

In all honesty.. Ive done a master's in social work... And I've never met a dumber group of people than Social workers.

[@lizsteeds6697]

A registered Social Worker with a Masters degree ... yet she invited a client into her home ? Her understanding of professional boundaries and ethical behaviour was abysmal ffs

[@olliefoxx7165]

Sounds very suspicious. Like there was something else going on

[@Milktube]

@@olliefoxx7165 No, just normal everyday female incompetence and unprofessionalism.

[@andyygroe]

The fact they both separately hired high powered attorneys confirms it.

[@melissaharris3389]

They were probably trying to defraud the system.

[@michaelwalsh4880]

@@olliefoxx7165sounds like human trafficking situation

[@superman9772]

i used to have this nightmare ... in it, i'm a grown man with a career and family and my high school principal knocks on my door and tells me that i didn't finish high school... at first, i feel cool about it cause high school was fun for me and i think i get to do it all again... cool right?... but then when i get there and hanging out with the kids in class, i , then i realize that i'm a grown man hanging out with kids... it's a nightmare... the moral, i suppose, is to study hard and enshrine that diploma and if you see your principal knocking at your door ... don't answer it....

[@robertharvilla4881]

I would be surprised if everyone hasn't had that dream. It's kind of like dreaming about showing up to school or work naked. Not necessarily scary, but just awkward af. LOL

[@allisonholliday5959]

I had a teacher that was rough and I had anxiety so bad. That was 15 years ago and I still dream about him and his class. Nope.

[@AllGoodOutside]

That has to be some kind of shared midlife nightmare because I used to have a similar one where my alarm clock went off and instead of having to get up to go to work at my home, my mother came in and told me to get up and get ready for school in my old bedroom in their home where I proceed to take the bus and sit in a tiny ass desk with my fat gut and I look around like what the hell?

[@peppipea104]

A social worker?! This is....disturbing.

[@RoseRoseRoseRoseRoseRose]

01:37 And she isn't actually one either. 😂

[@DamageControlLLC]

That's not very progressive of you.

[@pameladee]

I’m not surprised, trust me on this…

[@caulkins69]

There have been accounts of social workers faking their paperwork to make it look like they were doing their job when they really weren't.

[@louisewright8769]

The poor kids they are always the victims .

[@dawicked2k8]

"same month she time travel" Dr Grande is a savage!

[@barbm1001]

😂😂😂

[@thegrimlooper]

Your type of humor is so funny. The delivery is even better.

[@mindareinetels6047]

Love it 😀 ❤

[@poindextertunes]

his delivery is 👌🏻 the writing is hit or miss. sometimes its pretty corny

[@alexhauser5043]

Smarmy midwit? He comes across as the rare Redditor who managed to acquire a post-graduate degree.

[@andrewrasmussen]

Nice to see a case that doesn't involve a hideous crime. This one did relatively little harm to anyone but it's remarkable the amount of effort Shelby put into this scheme with a weak or unclear motive..

[@BouncyBrown]

At the start of the video, I was worried she was a child predator or something. This case is even weirder with no apparent motive.

[@Dialogos1989]

Maybe she just missed being a kid

[@JA-jx1hk]

She simply failed at starting a relationship with a minor but that’s obviously what she was really there for

[@RemiRielle]

Maybe she is doing a high school study 🤷🏽‍♀️ watch her come out with a book 😂

[@joenunya8449]

Like Annie Lennox said, they either want to use you, or want to be used... Which one was she?

[@tede9921]

Imagine going back to high school to "fix" the past and then discovering it didn't fix the past or recreate it but it created a new set of problems and challenges.

[@charlottewalker6490]

That's what I was thinking, maybe this was a do over for her to correct something in her past.

[@subspace666]

well if your willing to risk it , its more likely your life would be better then not you could always try again and again. good example of that is that star trek voyager 2 part episode called year of hell.

[@carmattvidz4426]

This is why I love working in the public sector. You can and do disappear into the system. It is great! No one bothers you. I do my job and I occasionally bounce emails with my supervisor. I can not work in the private sector again. I could not handle having someone really supervising me most of the time.

[@allisonehly7628]

Reminds me of the Twilight franchise: superpowered young-adult looking immortals that perpetually attend highschool for some reason.

[@Andrea-l1o1n]

With the Pinterest inspired graduation cap art?

[@chris3325]

The reason was to pick up jailbait. Which is probably what this broad was up to.

[@MusMasi]

They are all old enough looking to at least go to college, If I had the choice of either being in Uni/College or HighSchool Perpetually High School does not even come close to college I would always choose college and at least I could take different courses and there is enough to learn that my mind wont go insane, could do post graduate studies as well.

[@inpropriapaislee]

This was explained in the books and movies, though. The Cullen family would pick an area to live and try to start out there appearing to be as young as possible in order to stay in the area for a longer period of time. Carlisle and Esme most importantly could claim to be much younger if the kids were starting high school than if they were college age. It also helped cement them as a family of adopted children and keep any eyebrows from being raised on that front. That was the explanation given, at least.

[@MusMasi]

@@inpropriapaislee You could do university/college undergrad, post grad and work, 10 years, Highschool is only 5,

[@JS-wp4gs]

Normal person inherits a million dollars: i'm going to disneyland! Crazy person inherits a million dollars: i'm going back to high school!

[@Starry_Night_Sky7455]

Oh this needs an interview. I mean why? Just to do it? Was it a dare?

[@zarasha2024]

She could be vacationing in the caribean but chose to go to school instead, insanity 😂

[@lucila5466]

Lulz

[@indiomoustafa2047]

Well, if I went back to highschool today I would be the king. My skin is thicker now and so are my arms. I would make highschool my bitch at this point, Ive fantasized about being in highschool and knowing everything and being twice the size as everyone else. Lol Maybe that was what she wanted to do.

[@Bob3519]

Best comment 👍🏆

[@JustHarrison]

It's frustrating to see so many comments saying some variation of "why would she do this!?" While Dr. Grande does bring up the possibility of personality disorders (she was never tested or diagnosed), the reality is she is absolutely suffering from serious mental health issues because of a traumatic childhood. Her parents failed to prepare her for the responsibilities of adult life, leaving her unable to navigate the inevitable stress of making her own way in the world, and so she reverted (mentally first then literally) back to a time when her life was more structured and she had less responsibility. While I feel sad for her I want to broaden the conversation out to the larger American society, because there are MANY people that struggle with adult life because they didn't have good models for adult living when they were young. Their parents are abusive and neglectful, emotionally immature and irresponsible in many different ways. While Shelby's case was extreme, I would guess that most Americans long for the structure of grade school. Our society has failed to provide adequate models for living throughout adult life, and many people don't get the teaching and modeling they need in childhood to know *how* to be an adult. Their bodies are grown up but they're still children inside. They then go on to have children of their own, repeating the cycle and passing the trauma onto the next generation. Shelby's parents were themselves children in some way. And again, most of us were raised by adult children that don't teach us how to regulate our emotions or meet our own needs. This is what has to be recognized and confronted if we want to help people like Shelby become productive members of society, instead of perpetual teenagers.

[@andyygroe]

You really wrote a fucking novel sized response to this??? Get your life bro

[@swampsprite9]

@@andyygroe Some people can write really fast. I could easily type all that in a minute.

[@sarah_757]

Males sense to me! I was raised by evangelical fundies and was only taught unhelpful practices as a kid to cope. As an adult in my 40s now I am slowly unpacking and learning better behaviors now.

[@AlexisTwoLastNames]

@@andyygroeyou’re here??? what about getting a life of your own, broski

[@jonathanspivey437]

Fortunately it didnt drive her as crazy as some get. I mean, sure pretending to be a teenager to go back to school is definitely a seek mental help issue, but it doesnt sound like she actually hurt anybody. Poor lady, I hope she's able to get the help she needs and gets better.

[@I_am_Toro]

13 hard years for a victimless crime? Send her to a hospital for sure and kids need to be safe but damn, 13 years!

[@ManChan-w5p]

Yeah there are people who have killed and get less.

[@Will777-x5l]

I was thinking the same shit

[@rosierose5996]

School was tough enough first time round.....

[@Cinder_311]

Right! Who in their right mind would want to go back

[@courtneynoneya86]

Ikr

[@icin4d]

For me, college and university was so much better than high school. A different mindset. High school was boring and mandatory.

[@nickid5210]

💯

[@thewatcher7823]

One of the messages from freaky Friday. The mum had to go back there. She might have found a way to keep her mum with her in a familiar environment.

[@keithrickson8522]

Teacher: I notice your history grades are dropping. 13 year old: Let's talk about your retirement portfolio. How do you afford that Tesla out there on a teacher's salary?😂

[@avoiceinthedark2028]

I have this as a reoccurring dream. I’m always back in high school and remembering it doesn’t matter cause I’ve graduated college so I skip a bunch of classes.

[@Faizasmith-pj4dz]

Same here. I thought I was the only one.

[@egoborder3203]

recurring

[@avoiceinthedark2028]

@@egoborder3203 oh, thank you! I never realized that before

[@ronald3836]

You should start taking piano lessons in your dreams.

[@phazebeast7373]

Same here! Or I'm in highschool without a shirt or something and I get embarrassed lol in the dream

[@EmilyElizabethxox]

Being a ‘91 baby myself, there is no way in Hell I would think I could pass as a 16 year old (someone half my age). When I heard that I burst out laughing because I figured she’d be 22-24 just trying to relive her highschool years or something. But girl, you’ve been out for over a decade, get over it. Earlier in the doc you said she was able to get admitted in an eating disorder clinic. I think having an ED can make a woman’s age look ambiguous due to lack of curves as well as how it ages the face very young (so if you see a girl with ED who looks much older, you don’t question that they’re still a teen) so that’s probably how she was able to pull the wool over their eyes.

[@susanmann5286]

As a retired LCSW Social Worker, educated in that field, this sickens me. I can only imagine she was hired with no background check. That seems incredible.

[@zach4677]

I'm an LCSW and I spent my supervision years working for a state agency. I couldn't imagine working full time while pretending to be a kid. It would be an impossibility considering the workload and micromanagement...

[@DamageControlLLC]

That's not very progressive of you.

[@MusMasi]

@@zach4677 Seems like she didn't work much if at all.

[@misslayer999]

She was hired before she actually committed the crime so they probably did do a background check but nothing showed up

[@jharris3267]

She must have been traumatized during this time in her life and is trying to relive it, or correct it. It’s sad she definitely needs counseling.

[@Auxius.]

Think about it, this takes such meticulous planning, lying, interactions over such a LONG period of time- there is no way she is a victim, she's bored out of her mind and wondered how far she could take her dupe. She must've felt pretty smart duping everyone into living an entire second life and I guess that was her motivation. Perhaps there was a s--ual fantasy involved.

[@alexhauser5043]

@@Auxius. "Perhaps there was a s--ual fantasy involved." DING DING DING. Were a man to do the same thing, everyone would immediately assume that he's a diddler.

[@AssistanceDogEducation]

yup I had major trauma in my teenage years and often wish I could somehow sneak back into high-school to fix my high school experience.....although I wouldn't actually try it lmao

[@Flooding474]

Kind of weird for the therapist at the facility took home a (to her knowledge) trafficking victim to her husband and their apartment…

[@joenunya8449]

Right. "We'll save you"... What kind of "Enemy of the State" lie did she use to stay off book? "My pimp has an insider at dcf who will find me if you register me..."

[@pet.me102]

Same thought. But my guess is that they have such a big heart to let a 13-year old girl who was a trafficking victim, live with them. This is similar to white parents adopting kids from Africa or Asia.

[@andyygroe]

I don't see the similarities at all. This creepy couple both hired high powered attorneys and have a history of "adopting" young high risk teen girls from the wife's work. Sickos most likely. Lock them up too

[@AllGoodOutside]

The wife was probably hesitant, until the husband got a look at this supposed girl and said“ ohh but honey we have to help this poor girl!” hoping that at some point he would catch her coming out of the shower or something, he had that kind of nasty look in his eye in the picture

[@janettevidales3967]

Thank you for clarifying she was NOT a clinical social worker. Unfortunately, this happens a lot where people are called social workers who do not have the proper education, credentials, and licensing.

[@lalolitasola]

High and middle school worst years of my life!!! Would never want to relive it from a student’s POV! 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@bronsontolliver9027]

There's something discomforting about a licensed social worker with a Masters Degree taking in what they believe to be a minor without following the proper procedure.

[@alecrichards8574]

She had to have been in on it. My theory - because they were both social workers, Shelby had this plan already but needed someone to help, ends up meeting the social worker lady, they get to talking, she ends up paying her to help her pull this off for whatever reason she was going for. Enough trust and money were exchanged and the plan is "all you have to do is pretend you actually think i'm 13." She knew, and likely the husband as well.

[@shirleymorales3161]

Yes all 3 questionable adults UGH

[@jheanelltabana8713]

​@@alecrichards8574I find it odd they sign her up for school at different ages. You should know if the kid you're fostering is 13 or 16. That they were unaware or didn't question this is very suspicious.

[@traildoggy]

Weird, I got kicked out of obedience school almost immediately. Took only a few minutes to realize I wasn't really a dog. Some people on the internet take longer than that to figure it out.

[@jguenther3049]

Woof, woof! Arf!

[@olliefoxx7165]

​@@jguenther3049Good point

[@standardsarhy5319]

In today's world it doesn't matter at all that you are not physically a dog - it only matters that you say that you IDENTIFY as a dog. I'm sure there's a crafty salivating lawyer out there who would be happy to sue the obedience school for discrimination.

[@hitchmille]

🤣

[@Bluefalconspiracies]

Try passing as a fish

[@levity90]

The fact that passing basic mental health wellness tests aren't required to become a psychologist/counselor/psychiatrist is absolutely wild. I had a therapist who i found out was arrested alongside her father for assaulting a toddler. I only found this out because I kept getting weird vibes from her which prompted me to see what other patients may have said about her. One google search later and voila. I'm sorry but if you have a history of psychological unwellness you have absolutely no business counseling anyone.

[@aresjerry]

People go to school for psychology so they can diagnose themselves.

[@SusanaXpeace2u]

So strange. She had a job but stopped going to work so she could do school AGAIN.

[@BluejThompson]

I’m from Boston and have been following this story for some time. She was essentially moonlighting with social services. There is absolutely no accountability on their part as to how she was collecting a salary as well as not knowing she wasn’t doing her job.

[@sandravega6645]

​@BluejThompson Now that's scary, getting a salary as a social worker and having no accountability for your time on the job. 😮

[@alexhauser5043]

She was (is?) reasonably attractive, too. If she just didn't want to work for a living, she could have found a husband to provide for her.

[@Respectfully_]

​@@alexhauser5043people shame women for wanting that lifestyle now.

[@alexhauser5043]

@@Respectfully_ Who cares? Working is for ugly women.

[@thegrimlooper]

I don’t get it. There are obvious differences in a child than an adult that age. I’ve always looked younger for my age but I never get mistaken for a child. People must not pay attention or something

[@someguy7424]

Yes, but there are outliers. Ralph Macchio in Karate Kid was older than Cole Hauser in Dazed and Confused.

[@commonsense2680]

I agree. I still look younger for my age, but there is no way I at age 30 could pretend to be age 13, I definitely looked way different at age 13 than age 30!

[@karyannfontaine8757]

I have also looked younger. Last time I was carded was when I was 45. At 74, it is amusing.

[@lyndahadley2352]

It happens. A co-worker and her mother went out to eat, and the server brought my co-worker a coloring book and crayons. She was furious, lol!

[@Auxius.]

@@lyndahadley2352 Who knows, perhaps the co-worker was actually a 13 y/o impersonating a 32 y/o xD always be vigilant after this story

[@texasrefugee7888]

I can't understand why somebody would want to do this.Thank you doctor😮

[@SentMyOwnWay]

Especially after inheriting about a million dollars liars 🤔

[@kodek1234]

I feel like that for a lot of the cases Dr Grande discusses. 😁

[@NobodyHasToAgreeAllTheTime]

Arrested development

[@smokeythebear6689]

Illegal immigrants have pulled this stunt in the UK.

[@NobodyHasToAgreeAllTheTime]

@@smokeythebear6689 the states too. Be like 25 pretending to be a teenager 🤣

[@mamaboocee]

Im going to say it again, you, Dr. Grande, are a wordsmith of exceptional talent. I do so enjoy your videos!

[@Suedetussy]

What interests me is how did she get along with her class mates? Was she an outsider? How could she stand hanging out with 13-year-olds?

[@BouncyBrown]

I'm curious about this too. I'd imagine andry parents would speak out about this but maybe not. Also, the school owes an apology to the kids who could tell she was 30!

[@sarahjaye4117]

Did she do her homework 😂

[@bethpace6936]

When this was on the news, some of her classmates were interviewed by the reporters. It seems they were shocked that she was actually 30. They said that she was nice and cool, and one girl said she was her friend. I believe these were students at the school where she pretended to be 16, though.

[@sylviamey]

there’s not enough money on this planet that could send me back to grade 7.

[@Dbaranioglu]

Lol 😂

[@jdsguam]

7 & 8 were my worst years in school. I absolutely hated every minute.

[@douglasbachman3990]

Not to change the subject you must not of read a Bible before because you said Planet! God said the Circle of the Earth not the Ball of the Earth!

[@sylviamey]

@@douglasbachman3990 “not to change to subject” but continues to change the subject…. i’ve read the bible 3 times. it’s a youtube comment, not that serious. relax bro

[@sylviamey]

@@douglasbachman3990 oh wait are a flat earther? i’m not even gonna waste my time with you hahaha

[@danmarquez3971]

Chronic liars often use lying to remove themselves from a past that torments them. The lying feels good and even opens doors of opportunity, so like a drug, it becomes habitual.

[@christinapaterno5585]

This is wisdom

[@tquasa07]

can confirm, I did this while cheating for years. It hurt badly because I knew how blessed I was to have her, appreciated and loved her deeply, but I had tripped into lying abruptly and at a vulnerable time in my life when I didn't trust the world. Lying is easy to double down on. I can still do it; I wasn't cheating, I was just m@5turbating with someone's validation. Everyone thinks about doing it, I'm just above it and can separate church and state better than other people because I'm enlightened

[@phoenixrisin2269]

It’s called pathological

[@phoenixrisin2269]

@@tquasa07No they don’t and no you’re not😵‍💫

[@ijustrealllylikecats]

Nobody throws shade quite like Dr. Grande 😂👍

[@heidihochrein7912]

I had a housemate named Shelby. She was a pathological liar. She promised a couple her baby and took payments, housing and food from them, then reneged after three months. She stole from me, lied about having a job, and and and. Sh stayed with me 2 months. Very scary person.

[@JohnIsett]

Ok! Ok! 6:25 "Shelby was not motivated to learn anything in school....she was doing a pretty good job of impersonating a typical high school student." ROFL! Well done, Dr. G! It's why we love to listen to your analysis...best wishes from Florida.

[@aphr0d]

that was a good one 😂

[@maryabbott5005]

Ha! HA!! Couldn't Agree MORE..From Jax, FL...🤔🤩🎯💯🇺🇸🏛🗽💗

[@jguenther3049]

Noted.

[@FoNgThOnG]

I used to have nightmares of being back in High School. It would either be me at my locker and not remembering my code to open the locker and freaking out or I would be at the end of the lunch line and forget my lunch code. I do NOT want to repeat any portion of my school days.

[@thestraggletag2616]

id dream i had a year long project due the next day. Wake up and took me a min to realise im in my 30s

[@CelestialPopCollectiveOfficial]

In my nightmares, I couldn’t remember where my locker was and I couldn’t find my class schedule so I had no idea where I was supposed to be. Nobody should ever have much stress while trying to have a good night’s sleep!

[@deborahwinter5018]

Lol

[@inuchan74]

Oh man, I'm almost 40 and still have nightmares where it turns out I actually never graduated cuz I failed math and had to go back to high school. Omg it's awful. This lady is a nutter.

[@helenmcdonnell2585]

When i was 30 i was asked for ID when going to a club or pub. There was a club frequented by young students, i was moonlighting as a cocktail waitress and working in a bank by day, a weekend job. I became friendly with some of the patrons, one of the giys asked me if i would like to come party and stay at his parents house for the weekend as they were going away, he wouldn't believe me that i had my own flat, car a mother of a 4 year old, or my age. Was fun being in that environment as i had a grim childhood, and was my mothers slave girl. I didn't really want to grow up on many levels, and had a baby face so i fitted in..

[@jguenther3049]

Yeah, I remember being carded at 31. Alas, those days are far behind me at 85! I've retained only the silliness of youth and a memory like one of those big grey animals.

[@Janellabelle]

Omg, mother's slave girl here too. I waited until I was 29 to have a child even though I got married at 20. I just spent those 9 straight years partying constantly and working as a bottle girl and cocktail waitress.

[@raysa_n]

I am a mom and I would had lost it if I find out that there is a grown adult in my kid's class. Those institutions that didn't pick up on this right away have a lot of explaining to do! Like how does anyone let this happen?!

[@alukuhito]

Ironically, it's your type that is the problem. Teachers are mortified these days of offending any parent. They'd be sued for suggesting a student is actually an adult. Weird things happen. Sometimes people look old. They can't risk being called out for discriminating against a student.

[@castorkat4868]

@@alukuhito nobody. checked her paperwork ? Background check ?

[@alukuhito]

@@castorkat4868 She played the system. She was able to enroll due to a technicality, so she didn't have to provide that information. Again, if the school started to seek out information, assuming she was lying, they could get into trouble. She moved from school to school when people got too suspicious.

[@delee8407]

Truth and tbh in elementary i went to school with a girl that did look 16-20 in 6th grade. She definitely looked like an adult when we toured the high school people mocked her when we walked by their classes. How extra mortifying if the school would have accused her of being an adult. Shed probably be so horrified. She just blossomed early 😭😭​@alukuhito

[@irenes3470]

Give your kid some credit for bring able to see through BS and trust your own parenting

[@ginasewsandgardens]

I really appreciate how Dr grande takes very serious topics and makes it thoroughly enjoyable to learn from. Absolutely love his sense of humor very intelligent witty and fun

[@shonuffsuga]

Great analysis! I think you are spot on regarding her attempt to re-live her teenage years to heal some old wounds and gain mastery over her experience. I also think that there is some truth to her merging her fantasy life with her present day reality

[@susanfarley1332]

High school was the worst time in my life.

[@Job.Well.Done_01]

Adulthood is way worse.

[@Janellabelle]

It was a nonstop party for me.

[@susanfarley1332]

@@Janellabelle for me it was torture. It didn't help that my parents were dead and I was living with my grandmother. She was a domineering abusive b****. Made me wear clothes she liked and all my clothes were at least two sizes too big. It sucks when everyone was wearing jeans and t shirts and I had to wear polyester pantsuits. Polyester is so hot to wear in the summer. And I looked like I was wearing a tent. The shoes I had to wear she thought were very cute but they were hard and dug into my heels causing bone growths. Finally the doctor told her to stop making me wear them due to my foot problems. But it was too late. Can't wear regular shoes now because it's so painful. Can't wear socks either unless they are very very loose. They make my feet cramp up. Until this day more than 50 years later my grandmother put so much damage on me I still feel it. No fun at all

[@susanfarley1332]

@@Job.Well.Done_01 after getting away from my abusive grandmother when I turned 18, adulthood has been better for me. Not great but a lot better. She had plans that I was going to slave for her the rest of my life. Yeah, she had it all planned out. I ran away at 18, when she couldn't legally have me dragged back. And even then I waited until I married and had two kids before letting her know where I was. She dragged my mom back when she was 19, so I knew I had to have some kids so she couldn't do that to me. Hell,no. I was not going back to that woman.

[@Job.Well.Done_01]

@@susanfarley1332 how did grandma die ?

[@joestendel1111]

As a person who tries to help honest in most of my life, I can’t help but feel that we are living in a age of liars. The truth will set you free people, and it so much easier to keep your story straight when you tell the truth

[@thewatcher7823]

When one knows the truth, and isn't gaslit to another dimension, sure. It could be true it's an age of liars. At that point, the truth has already become harder to anchor to. It's not a simple task of questioning one's own beliefs and biases.

[@catloverKD]

You couldn't pay me enough to go back to school I've already done. I work with a few high schoolers now, and any time they mention what homework they have, I say "I definitely don't miss high school."

[@Mjj633]

I love your shows.They are always so interesting. Thank you Dr. G!

[@shelbybrown8312]

Thankfully there is Dr Grande to sort it all out

[@DavidPT40]

I've had nightmares where I'm adult and am back in high school. Not because of bullying or threats, but because it was just so boring and required so much class-work and home-work.

[@infinitusfinitus]

The really sad thing about this is how relatable it is. I, and so many other people, are lonely and desperate for acceptance and connection, but too scared to seek it out. She probably could have found a real family by being honest.

[@rawfrequency1453]

Dr Grande you talk with such elegance in every one of your videos!!! :)