Custody Loss Leads to Murder of Social Worker and Three Family Members | Jody Herring Case Analysis

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[@reneegardner2286]

childhood trauma can have devastating effects

[@johnhawthorn5393]

She was a bad person that made bad decisions

[@LazerJass]

@@johnhawthorn5393 Do you possess the same quality of assessment regarding decisions made by higher ups in sandbox society e.g.your captain or god?

[@mkuti-childress3625]

@@johnhawthorn5393 I get what you did there. 😏

[@vicki3671]

And that's exactly what CPS does to children and families!!

[@bestfriendsvet]

She was likely released early from the mental hospital because she didn't have insurance to cover the stay. In america, it is extremely difficult if not impossible for the vast majority of citizens to obtain Mental Health care.

[@heathernikki5734]

Exactly. Our streets are open air asylums

[@jaye8872]

People should take mental illness more seriously than they do, so many consequences like this can be avoided.

[@Whiskey.Tango.Actual]

Actually, we need to realize that consequences like this *can't* be avoided.

[@john-paulsilke893]

Most people who say this call crazy homeless people, “the unhomed” or “urban campers”. She’s one of hundreds of thousands of examples of people who are so mentally sick and without a family to take care of them. A lot of this stems from the broken nuclear family. A child growing up in a house with a single and distracted mother, (or less often father) understands that they weren’t important enough to be loved by that missing parent, (right or wrong, doesn’t matter). That creates a scar that in some spirals into self medicating and self destructive behaviour and eventually organic or chemical mental illness. Obviously having two loving parents isn’t proof against this, but our prisons and mental institutions contain prisoners/patients that only had one parent, (typically single mother) growing up. This percentage is often over 80% and it isn’t rare for 90% or more occupants to have come from such homes.

[@Whiskey.Tango.Actual]

@@john-paulsilke893 yep. Well said.

[@karinklaustermeier4009]

We have a family member we can't get help for because until they admit any bad thoughts or actions to anyone in authority (police, ems, dr.) you can't put them into a help center without their own permission.

[@benjamindover4337]

@@karinklaustermeier4009 what kind of help do you imagine they would get there?

[@chrissearer1896]

“Asking for a friend “? You’re killing me, Doc 😵

[@Avieroses]

I am about to graduate with a bachelors in social work from a school in Vermont. The social work community here is small and close knit, many of my professors and colleagues knew Lara Sobel. Thank you for your respectful coverage of this case and you kind words about the work we do.

[@lottedunnell1906]

Good luck entering a profession that you will be hated for. Rightly so. Biggest corrupt "system" in the world. You've joined a profession of professional liars and manipulators.

[@tamedshrew235]

The name of the institution where Jodi was involuntarily committed is Rutland Regional Medical Center, Psychiatric Services Inpatient Unit. Its Medical Director at the time was Dr. W. Gorden Frankle. He is now a Chief Psychiatrist at NYU, St Lukes in Brooklyn. How that happened is a mystery.

[@reavanante2160]

A reward for distinguished service. To some one. I'd like to Find that out

[@gheetuio8640]

So?

[@tamedshrew235]

@@gheetuio8640 So it was on his watch that Jodie was released from the hospital just 5 days in from a recommended 90 day involuntary commitment. The murders occurred on what would have been her 67th day of confined treatment.

[@CGcorruptproductions]

Because medical directors have nothing to do with admitting/discharging patients? Do you know what that job even is? They oversee management of doctors and nurses, not diagnosing or treating patients. He is probably an extremely good director, you don’t just buy your way into that job at NYU.

[@chrissearer1896]

Peter Principle of course….

[@Whitericeinmysalad]

I have to be honest with you, Dr. grande. I don’t watch the commercials and I can’t support anyone on Patreon because I don’t have the funds at the moment but I do like and comment so I support as I can because I enjoy your videos.

[@PandaCoasters]

ok poor

[@RealmCenter40]

@@PandaCoasters Ok attention seeker.

[@RAWNERVZ]

Geez she didn't have to say that I can't afford to support him although I think he'll do just fine without me.

[@Whitericeinmysalad]

@@PandaCoasters Not poor but I’m scribed to too many KZbinrs to support any of them with Patreon. I also loath commercials. I skip through every commercial. I also despise the five seconds I have to wait to skip the commercial.

[@maxpainmedia]

@@Whitericeinmysalad don’t explain yourself to that Incel bastard, we are all in the struggle in some form or fashion, liking and commenting and sharing will bring him alot of support more than if you donate

[@ircjesselee]

Does he read comments? I need him to know that his joke telling and dry delivery is unique and top tier. I'm not diagnosing anyone in this comment, just speculating what could be happening in a situation like this.

[@intorainbowzOG]

Cases like this are why I left social work. I felt the job I was doing wasn't worth risking my life for

[@TheSlong123]

That's why mental health assessments and therapy should be mandatory for social workers. When my now adult son was an infant I had a social worker claim that I had physically abused my then 1 year old son because there was a dark blue mark on his lower back that was reported by the child care the day that they told me I could not come back after I had told them that I would be removing him because they refused to change his pull up so his clothes would be soaked in urine, or they would feed him and another child from the same jar of food that I provided, with the same spoon, while the other child was sick so they accuse me of being racist since he was the only white child, and then they accuse me of owing the money and when I prove them wrong they told me that the next day would be the last day. The dark blue Mark washed off. And this was after the social worker had taken him to the ER but allowed me to follow but would not allow me to touch my son and then when I tried to show the work of the next day that there was no mark because it was the blue dye from the pull up getting wet where they were refusing to change him, she refused to look at him outside where there was plenty of light and she refused to allow me to turn the lights on in the bathroom claiming that the lights were broken. Vineyards later when they show up again because of an altercation involving my husband when we weren't living together, because the police showed up and a report was filed, the woman I was supposed to meet with told me that she was ill and wouldn't be able to make it but that she would let me know when someone else would be coming to have a chat with us. The same exact woman from before showed up unannounced, and spoke to my minor children without an adult present. My elderly mother was in her bedroom at not once did this woman even let her presence be known and then when she came back she told me that I was having my daughter lie for me because she looked scared and I laughed and told the woman that it was time for her to leave immediately because my daughter is definitely not afraid of me and has never been afraid of me and has always had no problem telling me the truth about myself. Some social workers do amazing work and have to bear the burden of what they have to deal with but they also save lives. However some social workers automatically look at someone and have already decided that they think that the person is an evil white trash drug addicted child abuser who wants to make sure that they have an impeccable record of splitting up families because she thinks the children are in danger when she needs to lie on her reports to make sure that happens

[@jenniferwong4530]

A social worker cannot “take children away”. The social worker does an investigation and together with the agency and often police involved, go to court with the evidence. A judge makes the decision to remove children. If the children are in immediate danger, they are placed in emergency short term care for their protection until court proceedings. The object of social services is to provide support to the parents, such as addiction help, and if successful will reunite the family with support. The children are always placed with close family whenever possible until court orders are in place. Sometimes foster care is the only option if family cannot take care of the children safely. A single person cannot make the decision to remove children from the home.

[@55mmartin]

I appreciate you being supportive of social workers. I am a social worker who works with behavioral health patients. I have gone through a lot of education and training and received little compensation for it. I do my best to help the people who are my patients, it is not easy work. And we are often maligned for our mistakes, but we cannot get inside someone's head and know exactly what they are thinking or feeling. We do the best we can to keep people safe and help them develop coping skills to manage their issues.

[@lottedunnell1906]

Social workers are globally hated and there is a very VERY good reason for that.

[@jimcronin2043]

Over and above the sentence imposed on Jody Herring, how about some thought about the official who released her from confinement after only 5 days?

[@debras9020]

Yep and what about the court system that continuously let her out after escalating criminal offenses.

[@saphinam.2866]

What about the attempted rape?

[@sitdowndogbreath]

And that's why she was always a perpetual victim however on that day she blew away the competition but is she happy now No I don't think anybody is.

[@jeffrey.a.hanson]

Best episode in awhile. One statement stood out, “The public feels safer when it’s just a ‘bad’ person.” This is the easy way out. Lock her up, throw away the key and portray an animal. The reality is mental health will never fit a law book or even a DSM manual. It’s something experienced on one side or the other. I could’ve read 100 books on BPD, yet it took that first client to truly understand the alternate reality that is experienced by the person and those around them. (Bless her. She has a great heart and tried hard…loved my time with her and still stay in touch. Hell of a writer as well.)

[@prof.jorgequintas240]

When I'm feeling depressed, the best thing to do is to watch Dr. Grande talking about some horrible crime.

[@stevenmurray7014]

Yup. I'm an angel compared.

[@zangmo]

Balanced, thorough, sane, compassionate. Thank you for being a voice 💕

[@Bencote1977]

Thanks for the kind words about social workers.

[@kevinhornbuckle]

There are no satisfying answers. There is a glaring omission. When her youngest (and final) daughter was removed from her custody, she was despondent to the point of suicide. What was done to keep her in touch with her daughter? Supervised visitation? Was that tried? Also, it is possible that this woman's mother was the proximate cause of this woman's father's suicide. The mother seems to have been volatile and unstable. Jody was seriously traumatized at an early age.

[@White-Michael935]

F.. with people's kids is as dicey as it gets.

[@MsNooneinparticular]

Kids choose their bio parents despite torturous conditions most of the time. That doesn't mean it's wrong to remove them temporarily until certain conditions are met. There's no question this woman was in no mental state to be in custody of 3 kids, but it's also clear she's not the only one who should be locked up for this crime. The facility that released her early because SHE was sexually assaulted on their watch & spoke up is at least as culpable--maybe more. They're the professionals who get paid to make decisions for people who often can't make them due to severe mental illness. Not only did they fail to protect this patient from sexual assault, they then discharged her prematurely to shut her up & she killed someone. Dr. G buried the lede a bit with this one.

[@kevinhornbuckle]

@MsNooneinparticular He does not say she was sexually assaulted while in the psychiatric hospital. He said she protested when a male patient got into her bed.

[@LaurenThompsonIsMyRealName]

@@MsNooneinparticular yea it does. The trauma of removal has repercussions far worse than anything they would experience if they remained at home.

[@errinemcgrew7649]

@@LaurenThompsonIsMyRealName except many parents and their partners kill their children through abuse or neglect so your statement doesn’t check out 🤔

[@lexremillard2549]

Trauma, addiction, mental health....not treated.

[@denish1]

Whoa, wait a minute...the background's back?! 😁

[@catherinelincoln9830]

What’s going on with the background? 😏

[@rchrd_sn]

Right on. Anyone who commits a crime has to pay accordingly, it doesn't matter what made them do it, especially if it's not the cause of immediate reaction in self-defense, but it's important to try to understand what she went through since childhood. It's unbelievable and shocking how much a person's adult life can be radically affected by some trauma early in life. Using your own words, it doesn't matter what, some people unfortunately won't escape some childhood trauma and unfairly pay a high price later, but the causes being learned and promoted and taught, kept fresh to parents and newlyweds, can keep some more from going through the same.

[@allinaday9882]

Richard Andrade: I am stunned by your conclusion. Understanding the causes in no way prevents the actions.The system worked until the hospital 1. chose to increase profit by foregoing adequate security 2. Hospital fear of lower profits was more than the hospitals fear of violent loss of life. ( hospitals mission statement: make the most money we can at any cost to our patients and community.) Isn’t that the foundation of the American way of life? I cannot think of another western nation that would ignore the criminal prosecution of the hospital after everything else had been prosecuted.

[@kaym.2854]

The system failed her... I hope the cycle doesn't continue with her children. Really sad. On another note, I really agree with your analysis, I don't blame the Social Worker and they shouldn't take the heat for this. It's sad that she had to lose her life for doing what she thought was best.😓 It's more than evident that this could've been prevented. Too many people dealt with Jodi and did nothing. As you said: They didn't care.

[@BenState]

Poor lady, she had no chance with that childhood.

[@CL-lo4wd]

Thank you for your thoughtful analysis and for your compassion, not only for the perpetrator but for the victim and for all social workers.

[@bernicereinhard2296]

When social workers don't take kids away, there's outrage when something goes wrong. Then when they do their job, they get attacked too. I'd say they did a good job taking her children away. If she can't take care of her children properly, she shouldn't have them. And her issues were evident long before the youngest child was taken.

[@lottedunnell1906]

They walk into peoples lives totally uninvited... destroy their lives then wonder why they're so globally hated...biggest waste of taxpayer money. They NEVER get called out for the shit THEY get wrong though...zero respect for the imbeciles who think they're helping an already failing system.

[@It-is-me...Melsie]

Exactly right! Here in NZ a while back here were lots of stories about babies being taken off mothers like it's a terrible thing, but these decisions are not made lightly. There are too many horrific stories about children not being taken off them or given back to them only for the kids to end up murdered.

[@sitdowndogbreath]

​@@It-is-me...MelsieNew Zealand is a police state I don't even think you guys have a constitution You definitely don't have a right to bear arms.

[@sophiaisabelle01]

Seems like Dr Grande is getting better with these analyses. This case in particular definitely requires more understanding.

[@princessinaworldofevil]

Abuse in the past is absolutely no excuse for doing harm to anyone it is a personal choice and to harm people when you know what it feels like makes it especially despicable

[@tinahammond4438]

She suffered a terrible childhood, and should have gone to a grief counselor.... Even if it was counseling in school....you have to learn you can't surpress your feelings forever, and then you just snap. Its happing more and more...we may never understand how much one can tolerate..

[@colettithekid]

This case is an example of how we are all connected. What’s good for a vulnerable youth is also good for potential innocent bystanders in the future.

[@audreyw115]

I still remember this case. It is horrendous. I can’t imagine living with the knowledge or truth of the happening to this young girl. Thank you.

[@MoonLeaf_RaquelLeBaudour]

I cried while you told her story; delved into her history-her struggle. What a tragic story. How wrong it can all really go with the Borderline. 🍃🍁🍃

[@stormcorrosion176]

Waaah

[@carriecongo7616]

Thank you for directing the blame to where the blame should be directed. Social workers work there butts off for crappy pay, against bad attitudes and they just want to do the right thing.

[@cm182cm]

Dr G is definitely one of the best KZbinrs 😎 Just a reminder: I'm not diagnosing anybody in this comment, only speculating about what could be happening in a situation like this.

[@dankadesign7462]

Sorry but the fact that she was in such young age , together with her little brother,dumped on street from her own mother saying a lot!!Thank you Dr.Grande👍👍👏👏

[@peterjongsma5297]

Drugs,Child abuse,Absent Fathers, Custody Disputes,Social Workers and Guns. What could go wrong?

[@standardyeepz]

as a psychology “fan” this channel is a blast

[@kristenr8311]

Another thoughtful and insightful analysis. Appreciated hearing Dr. Grande's support for social workers. They do difficult work. Finally, not sure if I'm the only one here who thinks this, but if the "Doctor-Tube'n" doesn't work out, Dr. Grande would have a prolific career as a Steven Wright-style stand-up comic.

[@tb0069]

Whenever someone says certain professions ought to make more money I always include social workers. An incredibly difficult job that only seems to get attention if things go wrong. Bless you.

[@heathernikki5734]

They go wrong FREQUENTLY and kids die.

[@LaurenThompsonIsMyRealName]

Nah, the system needs abolished. It's nothing short of legal kidnapping.

[@thepowerof6six809]

Almost every case goes wrong. And the children are the ones that usually die or at least get abused.

[@kuritheking]

@@heathernikki5734 exactly these ppl are often literal human traffickers , selling children into sex slavery ultimately by placing them in the same known problematic households who are just out for money over and over again. Fvck cps. Not saying this lady in the case was a decent parent tho…

[@errinemcgrew7649]

@@heathernikki5734 you only see the cases that make it to the news. The majority of cases where kids and families are helped aren’t put on the news so your statement doesn’t check out 🤔

[@anna-rosephipps3132]

Thank you for showing fair judgement. This poor woman, Jody, has suffered so much. Of course what she did was wrong. And how tragic that innocent people were killed. But no one cared about Jody or listened to her.

[@generalleigh7387]

DCF also receives 5,000$ per child removed from the home and placed into foster care- foster care homes have sexual abuse statics that are through the roof.

[@bluecollarlit]

I don't understand this. Who pays the $5,000 and who receives it?

[@generalleigh7387]

@@bluecollarlit 62,775- yearly average income for DCFS workers paid by state and federal. Besides being notorious for dividing up families the foster homes they’re placed in are providing the care because it’s a living for them and God bless it when it’s good across the board but there are so many just doing it for the money who can pass a background check but a true personal investigation of who they ARE is not even a question. Just because you can pass a background check doesn’t mean you’re good people- and this is where the sexual abuse typically makes it’s appearances. It’s a racket with a bunch of people getting paid and many children suffering even worse and deeper loss in the foster care system- as a young teen I knew a girl who was raped with a toothbrush in the foster home she was in. You may be familiar with the case of the Father having sex with the girl he and his wife fostered and she ends up stabbing the foster mother to death stabbed around a hundred times. These are extremes and I’m sure there are some good ones but it’s real work to take care of a stranger’s child and most people don’t want to do that, they just want the check.

[@duanenichols8666]

@@bluecollarlit the state from the federal government mimicking the prison industrial process but without constitutional rights in a secret unconstitutional court no speedy trail no jury trail no right to face your accuser religious persecution and slander by proxy when Thier kid disappears combined with deliberately agitating and insulting to parents anyone who would lie to take someones children are scum of the lowest sort

[@lisetteeliseparis7070]

Hello Dr. Grande. This case is sad beyond belief. Thanx for your insight.

[@fullmetal_neet2288]

Two videos in one day! Dr grande you’ve outdone yourself!

[@invincible9462]

Right in time for lunch break.. nice! ❤️✌🏻 Edit: I have to agree that she was misdiagnosed a second time so she could be put away for life, which is clearly in the best outcome for the safety of the community. I wonder what backroom conversations were had prior to trial.

[@nzr3756]

Ty Dr. Grande for your excellent analysis of a difficult case. There's so much disparity of opinions between diagnosing clinicians & also with social workers figuring out what is in the best interests of the kids.

[@ETtheOG]

Takes like this one are exactly why I subscribed to this channel. Dr. Grande's reasons are very succinct and to the point, while also focusing on the evidence as well as throwing in a few things from his professional experience. It helps me understand myself and those around me that are suffering from behavioral issues, which can be very valuable to how to deal with certain social situations. The Kanye situation is one such example that comes to my mind (although I have no personal involvement), many people have behavior that resembles what Kanye is going through, but I was one of the first people early on that kept on saying, "this dude seriously needs professional help. He is clearly going through a manic phase right now." Although I know Dr. Grande discussed the Kanye issue already, the only thing I wanted to hear from Dr. Grandeis is how to get someone with this much money, power, and influence to sit down and start treating this kind of manic episode? Do you just let him do his thing until he eventually settles down? Figure out who, if anyone, it is Kanye will listen to and convince them to talk to Kanye? Or is the only real option to take him away by force?

[@kellyodowd3949]

Unfortunately mania is a form of entertainment, like Britney and Charley Sheen, but I agree it is helpful in understanding the behavior or many other people going through mania. I have always liked Kanye and his music. This lady is another example of the pain that comes resulting from the way our family justice system is flawed. So upsetting.

[@yourneighbor2567]

He's just exercising his right to freedom of speech. He might sound crazy but he has a right to say whatever he wants under the first Amendment of the US Constitution. You or nobody else has a right to silence him. Unless he is guilty of libel against an individual, inciting violence or riots, he can say what ever he pleases. Maybe you should be going after the people giving him a platform? I don't understand, people get canceled everyday, they lose their jobs, bank accounts, family and friends. Ultimately being ostracized from society for making a tasteless joke... but you can't stop "Ye" lmao! Where is your upset for the celebrities, the media and the politicians who not only openly call for the discrimination against a certain group of people but also incites hatred and violence towards them while openly celebrating their eventual extinction? And these people have actual power!! They incited riots that caused many deaths and millions in damages after sitting back, watching while cities burned... but some rapper wearing a pillow case over his head, saying silly things got your attention??? Kind of peculiar if you really think about it 🤔 Nice try though using mental illness as a weapon or tool to lock him up. He isn't a danger to anyone or himself... How spineless of you. Ye should sue you for libel and your conspiracy to falsely imprison him. Btw, I despise "hip-hop" and I don't care for rappers. But Ye should be left alone. Or hey! Maybe this will all go away if he twerks on the devil before giving him head in a music video as a humiliation ritual for the music industry before they broadcast it around the world for all the little children to enjoy? Idk 🤷‍♂️

[@helenshg4580]

@@kellyodowd3949 I am in direct opposition to the hard attacks on Kanye & Meghan Markle & others. It seems like the attackers have a lack of understanding while they may be operating on the dopamine rushes + endorphins they get by blasting ppl for being stupid, crazy & ignorant. We don't know what is in the background for others. They are often ruled by internal reactions created as defense mechanisms created from trauma. In my opinion, the harsh criticizers could possibly benefit by some psycho therapy as much as they think their targets need psycho therapy.. Anyone who does a personal brain search could possibly find how to respond with less harshness.

[@kimberlywalker_]

In cases like his, sadly force. He refuses medication. Kim could have signed to have him held and accessed. I've done the same for my husband. And believe me, he needed it!

[@ETtheOG]

@kimberlywalker7518 my issue with that mentality is that it's very easy to become a slippery slope. An example that comes to mind is what happened to Britney Spears.

[@lisabass7584]

Great analysis doctor grande always enjoy your channel so sad heartbreaking😢

[@lnc-to4ku]

A very dark case, but what a great video, Dr. Grande!

[@wrmlm37]

Just from the beginning...WHAT A HORRIBLE CHILDHOOD! Just imagine being kicked out of your home as an 8th GRADER! Living in cars and wherever they could bunk down. Can you just imagine her school experiences...this lady was "made", not "born" this way. I feel so badly for the child she might have been. I hope her mother is miserable, the step father too. This was disgusting treatment of your own flesh and blood, let alone CHILDREN. TY for this upload Dr. G. I hope you and your's are enjoying the holiday season;)

[@lf9341]

I know...and at 5 years old her dad killed himself. :(

[@scottburbridge3170]

she has had an unfortunate difficult life. the System failed her, & it began with her mother.

[@allinaday9882]

Scott Burbridge: If you have a published Hx. of this family to support your statement, I am very interested. The few backgrounds I have reviewed so far, have not found the generation yet where the dysfunction and pain began. Thanks for the info!

[@browniehendricks3726]

If social workers leave children in the home they are criticised for being too lenient. If they remove the children they can be seen as too strict. You can't have it both wsys.

[@cottontails9003]

It's so sad that the mental health faculity, released her so early, these murders could have been avoided. I absolutely agree with your analysis. Thank you Dr Grande. Brilliant analysis, tragic outcome and topic.

[@katharinemessenger1319]

Excellent analysis. I don't know the case but I like the way you deconstruct bad vs mad problem.

[@lostsoul1278]

Dr G is busy 2day....love and appreciate your analysis

[@lilaworley8935]

Our system is so complex and there's so many gaps in so many important social institutions... Stories like this are a perfect example of everything wrong

[@rejaneoliveira5019]

Outstanding analysis Dr. Grande. Your review was nuanced and comprehensive. On another note, I also think social workers are heroes. They have one of the toughest jobs out there. Thank you, Dr. Grande.❤

[@browniehendricks3726]

I agree

[@sheilagravely5621]

She should Never have been able to keep Any Child!!!!! Shame on the system for dropping the ball on this all the way around.

[@wendybond2848]

Dr Grande, as a child protection worker for 12 years, I appreciate your comments. It is indeed difficult, but no matter how bad our day can be, we know it is much worse for children in horrible situations. The aim is to provide them with a better life than this poor woman had and break the cycle.

[@kristine432]

And yet the news is full of avoidable deaths of innocent children. When these babies die for lack of intervention, the blood is on their hands as well.

[@kristine432]

@@cht2162 I totally agree!

[@momof1576]

@@kristine4321800 per year on average

[@heathernikki5734]

Well, you and your colleagues are doing an abysmal job accomplishing your "aim".

[@heathernikki5734]

@@cht2162 oh BS, excuses excuses. MANY cases of willfully negligent and lazy CPS workers.

[@Ellieangel777]

Lol @00:34 I thought you were going to say "she had a large extended forehead" instead of family rofl 🤣 😂 😆 I was looking at her photo as you were saying that and that came to mind because i was already noticing how large and oddly-shapen her forehead is 🤣

[@mattbeckwith]

Excellent case and spot on analysis. This may be your best video yet.

[@syoung4471]

In a lot of these cases I noticed that people are begging for help in so many ways and it's ignored. I get it, the system deals with a lot of people and things will be missed. I wish we had a better set up. This entire situation is just sad. I also want to say some people have good reason to distrust CPS. I'm not talking about this case. I used to live in AZ and CPS was busted with a child trafficking ring that even involved the cartel. I've read reports of CPS in other states knowingly giving children to foster parents that were child offenders. Like any other organization, it has it's corrupt people that do heinous things. The general distrust has merit.

[@towpottsfam7631]

Yey Dr Grande ❤ thanks for saying social workers are heros. I think the murders prove she was unhinged and the social worker had made a good thought difficult decision in removing the child from the care of someone with this potential!

[@m.f.richardson1602]

Always interesting. Humor is outstanding. Thank you. Peace 💕🇺🇲

[@torbjorn_aadland]

@Dr. Todd Grande: in the case of Nicole Nachman you said that "Nicole engaged in a number of complex tasks around the time of the murder. This seems to be inconsistent with having a psychosis". But here you say that "In reality, people who are psychotic can engage in a number of complex tasks, including planning for homicide".

[@Mainecoon_Izzy]

Interesting video Dr. G In my opinion your mother is the one person in the world to always protect you and keep you out of harms way. My mother passed August 2021 she was 92. I remember I was ‘spanked’ by mom once. I was a child of five. The reason why, was for being envious. My mum gave my best little friend a very nice birthday gift. She was disgusted by my tantrum....lol Who knows what kind of ‘psycho’ any of us could’ve turned out to be. If their mother had ‘physically abused’ them growing up as a child.....💔

[@rebeccapaligo6901]

I was in chittenden county Correctional facility when jody was there.

[@UNoWhtEvr]

VERY WELL SAID Sir They (+We) need a voice too!

[@dustinsmart8528]

Dr. Grande introduces this topic with the fact that Jody lost her father at an early age. It is reasonable to consider the impact of a girl losing her father at such a young age, then subsequently being "kicked out" of her he by mother and stepfather. At the time of those traumatic experiences, she was not a mature adult and was not able to recognize or process the effects of these experiences. Fatherlessness never produces a positive outcome. Although as a disclaimer, it doesn't always produce a negative outcome either.

[@Drelam]

Sounds like she was failed by multiple institutions starting at childhood and the results were catastrophic.

[@moobrien1747]

@R Voit EXACTLY.

[@jamesn7305]

It's the same story. Doesn't excuse the actions but they are always damaged people

[@evelynwaugh4053]

Normal and healthy parents are virtually indispensable to a child. Institutional intervention can't replace what should have happened in the first three years to foster optimal development. Intervention plucks the child out of the fire, but damage has already been done. If only sane, healthy, mature adults reproduced, there would be a lot less walking wounded.

[@Drelam]

When I say institutions I'm referring to governmental institutions not specifically psych wards. Things like CPS for example, though of course they all have their issues, but its a better alternative then being abandoned to destructive parents and mental illness with no treatments and counseling.

[@evelynwaugh4053]

@@cht2162 Perhaps I'm misunderstanding you. The eugenics movement in the US did not result in anyone `defective' being exterminated. It did result in the sterilization (at parents' request) of individuals with low IQ as well as some deemed mentally ill. It wasn't a nationwide movement, but an individual family matter. If you have ever worked in social services, teaching, or medicine and seen the plight of children born to very dysfunctional parents, you might think that the implementation was wrong, but the intent not evil. Hitler did not need any inspiration from the US. He did his own thing.

[@Anabee3]

AGREED: The lack of treating the root of the problem / lack of prevention is HORRENDOUS.

[@ghadamamdouheskarous]

Thanks for the 2 videos in one day ❤

[@RebeccaLynnMusic]

Okay. I never commented before on your little studio, because I didn't think it affected me much. But now seeing the brick again, I can say that I feel much more comfortable. Isn't that odd?

[@barbieblue3336]

I am going to move out of NJ so I can support you on Patreon. Taxes too damn high

[@carolynsilvers9999]

Mental health services in this situation should face consequences

[@wayjamus2775]

The sad part is, this occurred in the parking lot behind the court house, one that's right behind Main Street, and shared with other offices. Downtown Barre has a LOT of office space leased to the state so there is a lot of open parking out back. It has not changed since the time of this crime, everything (and everyone) walks across the open lots to the courthouse/offices etc. Barre is a very small town and one of her nieces frequently rode our buses, was dropped off at the house on Airport Rd where the shootings occurred. It lost its manufacturing base in the mid-80's and the State stepped in and leased, built offices in the downtown area. Many of those offices are court diversion programs, social services and 3 mental health facilities, (at least) plus the courthouse. Jody would have been well familiar with that area. That no one called the police because she was carrying on in her car is because it was just another (insert word for someone needing said mental health services here) on just another day.

[@arbonneladyTN]

Very informative!

[@renee1961]

This is So Heartbreaking, in So many ways! 💔💔💔💔🙏🙏🙏🙏🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️

[@florag8358]

Parents who mistreat their children when they're young and set these behaviours in motion should also be held accountable ..

[@lowelllarsen5947]

Excellent objective analysis 🧐

[@sharonhoyt2133]

In this case prison will be the most stable situation Jody has ever had in her life. She will have a place to sleep and regular meals and no longer have to deal with struggles to survive just to be alive. Bonus is that she will not be able to have more children or hurt anyone else. I hope the stability will be enough for her to come to terms with life.

[@scottbeldi5826]

With all the studies on mental illness how many violent crimes have doctors prevented from all this study?

[@hollyw9566]

Human Services and the Child Protection Services are damned if they do and damned if they don't. If they take away the kid, they're brutally using their "power," and if they leave a child in a dangerous home and the child gets murdered, well, that's on them, too. They are heroes indeed. Thank you for that, Dr. Grande.

[@diannamorrison2431]

It is a tough tough job with very little appreciation.

[@son_of_stan]

Social workers can be pernicious if you let them, two social workers in my area were convicted of perjury, after lying about a childs conditions because of their bias against single mothers.

[@rockyevans1584]

No one job attracts people only of heroic character, there's going to be saints and reprehensible cretins in every occupation imaginable

[@kulrich10]

They mess up a lot though

[@son_of_stan]

@@kulrich10 i know what you mean, from my experience they act from a biased position.

[@momo6837]

2 videos in 1 day and both of them were riveting!!! ❤ thank u!!

[@willnill7946]

Jody has to have at least one good photo of her. We haven’t even gotten to the crime but she must be guilty cause of how crazy she looks

[@RAWNERVZ]

Bundy didn't look the part

[@ss7581]

That's just her face. There is something really off about her features, but I can't quite place it.

[@peggypeggy4137]

@@ss7581 I'm not making light of it but she looks like she has been prenatally exposed to something. It wouldn't surprise me, given her background.

[@AJManol]

Best analysis I’ve seen from you in awhile 👍🏻👍🏻🤓

[@joanofarcxxi]

The mental health "professionals" should be held responsible as well. If she had been traumatized, and had been diagnosed with BD, psychosis, or any other mental health dysfunctions, she can't exactly be held solely accountable for her actions as her condition would be insane - my opinion. So sad that this terrible tragedy had to happen. When will people ever take mental health as seriously as other medical issues... Tragic indeed. This case reminds me a little bit of Aileen Wuornos case for the background and the outcome. DCF, well, that's a whole other can of worms! RIP to the victims who were murdered. Great analysis, Dr. Grande.

[@nickchannel5364]

Hi Dr. Grande. Best wishes from Charleston, SC.

[@gerry2345]

I like this vid. Good insight and great analysis.

[@mariequinn370]

I find this so very sad ... why are we all so adverse to prevention?!

[@miraclenichols4332]

Sad & horrifying!

[@azulgaia7782]

Thank you, Dr. Grande.

[@gabriellebernard198]

Who doesn't live Dr. G dry sense of humor. Actually its more like an arid sense. No its deccicated, dehydrated , powered sense of humor. Atta Boy!

[@SavPowers]

Excellent video, very insightful.

[@blynch2117]

I saw this case on an episode of Deadly Women, very sad.

[@moobrien1747]

Auspicious beginning.

[@Hilz28]

Cannot help but feel bad for this individual 😢

[@LaniLanilei]

No perfect system, granted, so the fight goes on. WIN some lose some. Frustrating no doubt. Heart breaking too because lives are lost.

[@TonyG_VT]

The house where she killed her three relatives is less than a quarter mile from where I work and I drove by that house the day this happened. The problems with our mental health system are a daily topic in Vermont.

[@trentbrownstone1481]

She had two options. Be peaceful, and move forward. Be rageful, and move forward. Crazy, or not. She chose rage.

[@katelynbrown98]

I'm mad that no one ever tried to actually help her intervene with her trauma. She lost the only thing that meant anything to her and no one cared. It's disgusting. U.S.A needs to do better on mental health.

[@uanime1]

They had her committed to a mental institute and if she remained there several people would still be alive.

[@sitdowndogbreath]

you don't have to tell me twice

[@kyleboulanger170]

Jody Herring has a lot in common with Aileen Wuornos. Both women were physically & sexually abused by their guardians & kicked out of the house when they were around 15 years old.

[@aunaun6775]

This is a very traumatized person who just keeps getting kicked by fate. Although I don't condone violence... it was only a matter of time before a wounded soul gave up in an explosive way when dissociation no longer functioned as a coping mechanism and all the rage that's been held back for too long consumed her.