Gabby Petito Case Analysis | Was Gabby Left Behind?

[@paul9156c]

Relationship lesson #1, If the relationship ever gets physically violent during an argument, leave the relationship. It will only get worse over time.

[@ooohlaa13]

@@diabloakland go to a womens center, any church, ask for help and it will come, someone will refer you somewhere, and doors will open. Of course it will be very uncomfortable and scary ... but .... It will only get uglier and more miserable because of both parties are damaged by life and are stuck in a groove they cannot get out of. Even In the best of relationships there is much misery because human beings alway feel they are the guilty party because we all feel not good enough, and compensate for this in weird ways. But its not about shame and guilt, its about healing, thereby learning to treat others and be treated with human decency. Sometimes it takes years to get the glitches out of all of us. There is a saying that at some point there are no victims, only volunteers.

[@superflybguy2622]

Yup that's what Brian did twice; he flew home on Aug 13th and drive home solo on Aug 29

[@cellytyree4771]

Oh ok Paul

[@ooohlaa13]

@@roddangerson2046 I dont know exactly what you are referring to, I wrote many posts in which I said BOTH people are usually responsible and need help. I can see both sides lots of neuroses and craziness. They are intertwined. And we hit people because they press our buttons and taunt us and we taunt them back. Neurosis.

[@josefinasoderholm6488]

It almost never starts whit physical violence. Saying things like, leave after the first punch.. that comes from not understanding abuse. Abuse is so much more than physical violence. Often it starts whit control.the perpetrator controlling what you are doing, calling all day, asking what you are doing, whit who, when you’re coming home. They separate you from family and friends, because that don’t like you being around them. Maybe take control over your money.. They put you down, calling you names, making you feel smaller and smaller.. So when the physical violence begins.. The victim for the most part can’t just leave..

[@toniemorrison4263]

Dr. Grande, thanks for talking about this! 🥰 We must keep the focus on this story. It's going to take a national effort. His silence and the monstrous effrontery it took to return without Gabby speaks volumes about his true character.

[@kenmore01]

Yep, for sure!

[@bh0931]

Praying for a safe outcome for Gabby. Her family is frantic, yet Brian and his family remain silent. This doesn't sound good at all.

[@rahla53]

Or his mental illness, :>(

[@stacyjaye6350]

Thank you for the new word, effrontery.😂hint, people: it ain't about effort 😆

[@toniemorrison4263]

@@rahla53 I'm suspicious of convenient mental illness. He was ill when he did whatever to Gabby but became sane just in time to drive himself all the way home, tell his parents and lawyer up.

[@beccac6812]

The part about this that makes me think he did something is that his parents are protecting him. They lawyered up before even reporting the girl missing , knowing full well she wasn’t coming home. In many of these crime cases , we see parents who enable their children to act terribly and get away with it and this is what it appears is happening here as well .

[@BrownEyedGirl14]

Especially when his parents are parents themselves. They can imagine what torture it must feel like to not know what's happened to your child. To allow that torture to continue for Gabby's parents is downright disgusting. From one parent to another, they should be helping find Gabby and bringing answers to her family, not help their son evade justice. If the son was innocent and they believed him, they'd be doing everything they can to find her and prove his innocence. Actions speak louder than words.

[@6AlphaMikeCharlie9]

brian didn't report her missing, it was her side that took care of that.

[@knowsmebyname]

Becca C if Brian were your child what would you do? Assuming you knew Gabby was dead and for the sakebof argument lets say Brian told them a story that they believed. Say that Becca manipulated him or slept hith someone...say that Brian said "they went out and Gabby disappeared only to come back 5 hours later with her clothes discheveled ans smelling of sex, and then began to taunt Brian with how good the sex was." Brian then told his parents he pushed her she hit her head and yada yada"... what would you do? I am asking sincerely. Thanks in advance.

[@gman24310]

@@6AlphaMikeCharlie9 right, if he had nothing to do with it, he probably would have reported her missing almost right away.

[@catsmith233]

Agree. I feel like the parents are in a conspiracy with him because they did all the storage moving with him

[@JackStanis]

I was friends with Gabby. I worked at a flotation therapy place down the road from where she worked. I used to visit her on my lunch break. We shared countless laughs and conversations. She was a special human, and could turn your frown upside down any day. Rest In Peace Gabby. Thank you for all of the laughs and good vibes. I will always hold you in my prayers. May your spirit fly high.

[@EMKATW]

I’m so sorry, Jack. I didn’t know Gabby personally, but I know what it’s like to lose someone close to you. To the “opinionated” person who had the first comment, please be aware of the things you say. You can cuss me out. That’s fine. Your words don’t have any value to me. Please, take into consideration how you would feel if someone said that to you in the midst of your grief. Have a blessed day

[@EMKATW]

@@theopinionisthighqualityopinio I was referring to your username. (It was too long for me to type😅). I completely respect your opinion. I hope we can disagree and go our separate ways. This world is messed up, we agree on that much. We have different outlooks on this tragedy and that’s okay. I’m not trying to refer to Gabby as a “case” at all. She was a real person. She didn’t deserve any of this and I wish she were still here. Have a blessed day.

[@damiarassam7956]

Thanks for sharing Jack. I'm sorry for the loss of your friend. May life be kind to you.

[@Dr_Nutrition]

I hate that he is wasting everyone’s time & torturing her family by not saying where she was left. 🤬

[@mshockey73]

He really needs to make some kind of statement...

[@cindykeuf]

Whatever happened to waterboarding? 🤔

[@marjoryrainey287]

Definitely!

[@Steph-lo9sj]

Narcissistic...

[@expressivepets1]

Why can't someone locate him here in FLA; then get the info out of him? Off the record. In the dead of night. With a crowbar or a little airboat ride to the swamp waters.

[@jamesjacocks6221]

Brian's unhelpful stance and retention of counsel suggests that Gabby is dead. Were she still alive when he left her he would certainly cooperate with the police. I get the picture that Gabby was a basket case and Brian wasn't far behind. Quite possibly, Brian snapped. Then he ran home in the van and, being naive and dependent, took advice from his parents. The DA does not need a body to charge Brian. The DA needs to put some heat under his feet.

[@jamesjacocks6221]

@Chip Mcgraw If you have something to hide, definitely. If something unfortunate happened and you fear it will point to you, sure. However, refusing to answer essential questions seals the deal: she's dead. You aren't an attorney?

[@jamesjacocks6221]

@@ivyyoung521 Yes, that's the most likely, but I get the picture he was tiring of her taxing personality. This ordinarily doesn't lead to murder but Brian looks to be a mama's boy through and through and, to me, that's a bad sign.

[@theblueclue3843]

@@jamesjacocks6221 speaking to the police will never help you, innocent or guilty. This stigma that getting a lawyer means you’re guilty is the reason so many innocent people get charged.

[@jamesjacocks6221]

@@theblueclue3843 If Gabby were possibly lost in a canyon or had struck off on her own, it would. The reason folks tell people not to talk is because so many can't control the conversation. If the police want to search for her, withholding information is unwise. If you were involved, then talk isn't advised. I wouldn't take everything a lawyer tells me as good advice. Somehow, I can see an economic motive in almost everything they say.

[@A.J.8.8.8]

@Chip Mcgraw it also doesn't do you any favours if you're guilty of homicide. If she is not found alive, he will surely spend the rest of his life in jail.

[@sheila1366]

In my nearly 35 years of adult relationships, I have only heard two women tell me that their significant other threatened or actually abandoned them. The first was a college friend who was driven to a remote area and told to have sex or get out and walk home. She was in a foreign country at them time, in an unfamiliar and remote location, and dressed in a skirt and heels. Her "date" was a local. In the second case, a woman friend got into an argument with her husband late one evening while they were preparing for bed. She was dressed in a night gown and barefooted. He forced her outside in temperatures below 50 degrees with no shoes, no coat, and no keys. He then locked the door and went to bed. When I was on a business trip with a male coworker, we shared on rental car. As we were pulling into the client building, he said something to me like "put up or get out". I thought I misunderstood him and asked him to repeat it. He said, "Didn't you ever go out with a guy who told you to put out or get out of his car?" I told him yes but what made him think I would let him get away with it. I was reassigned at the end of the week. This kind of behavior, threatening to abandon a woman in a situation in which they cannot keep themselves safe is abuse the same as if he beat her. And it should be viewed in same context as a threat to hit your significant other.

[@Georgeanne17]

NO. LETS BE CLEAR: It’s an attempt and threat to cause severe harm or death to the person by putting them in danger by abandonment. It’s a red flag and generally is a predisposition for physical assault that can escalate to be fatal. Women must understand this is psychopathic behavior and NOT NORMAL.

[@dankadesign7462]

@@Georgeanne17 in "old days" they will say...he has temper or easily get angry but in reality it was mental disorder and narcissistic abuse.

[@Indeterminite]

LETS BE CLEAR: threatening hit or KILL you is not the same as leaving you by the side of the road

[@Natalia-eb4yb]

Been there and I 100% agree.

[@ChibiDesigns]

Just to clarify, on an interview gabby’s father confirmed that she isn’t formally diagnosed with OCD and was never tested and was likely just using this term casually for “likes to have things clean”

[@marthayounger9219]

So Bryant parents were renting their home have police look at the place were they were living just wen they were renting

[@rogerjin6579]

She wasn't formally diagnosed but I'm willing to bet she has BPD, matches the symptons.

[@billybats4745]

Everybody thinks they have something these days. They practically brag about it lol

[@Sarablueunicorn]

@@rogerjin6579 What symptoms? Being victim of domestic violence? Yeah many victims of domestic violence get that diagnosis, the interesting is that they only start to show bpd symptoms during of after the abusive relationship. BPD diagnosis is basically a joke

[@matthewxaviur8930]

@@Sarablueunicorn how is bpd a joke? It’s a real disorder.

[@Edisonapple]

Out of every single video and news report, this is the most informative and cohesive video of information I’ve seen

[@mckenna9489]

@@annaMlisa513 just check the real evidence and then listen to the 911 call he is narcissistic manipulating nobhead

[@kathleenhuff3059]

@@annaMlisa513 he killed her..looks to me like he set up that situation with the cops to make her look like the bad one and him the good..to throw doubt on him killing her.. that's what Narcissists do..I'll even bet he'd been threatening to drive off with HER van and leave her behind!!..had her scared!!!!..

[@Flowergirl2012]

@@annaMlisa513 your delusional.

[@kudjo24]

Dude KZbin is astroturfing the fuck out of this right now, the first 120 results are all no name news stations from every corner of the country FIX THE ALGORITHM SUSAN

[@trees915]

@@annaMlisa513 I think there is a trend of disparities towards men in domestic cases, however, there are witnesses who saw him hitting her repeatedly and his behavior following her disappearance is obviously suspicious.

[@maxcovfefe]

This whole case reminds me of some of the best advice I _thought_ anyone ever gave me: "If you wanna test how a relationship's marriage would go, travel together first." Turns out this may not be the best possible idea.

[@amber40494]

Can be dangerous when one person is not honest about who he is.

[@lenaannis8787]

Max Covfefe Exactly and i would like to add that all these youtuber couples travelling in a van post the gd staff,and how free they live etc etc do no gd for young people who may think that this way of life is sooo easy ,which ofcourse is not. I do hope this young lady will be found alive but ....

[@jnagarya519]

@@amber40494 Or neither knows who they are themselves.

[@Wajiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii]

That is indeed a very good test, especially for those in long term relationships. It becomes abundantly clear if the problems in relationships are caused by lack of love and understanding or other external stresses. If it's external factors and you get away from those, you will usually get along just fine and have a good time. If it's lack of love, it's going to become crystal clear by the way your partner treats you and vice versa.

[@VonJay]

Yeah they call that the backpack test. Go on a trip, go hiking, with no social media or anything, and see how well you two get along. If you can't talk about anything or hold each others attention, or if you can talk but it ends up in negative emotions then you should definitely call it quits

[@FlowerGirl8]

Her fear of being left behind, how he locked her out of her own vehicle and desperately climbed through the window makes me think he has done it before and I terrorized her. He WAS talking way too much and was nervous until he was told he was the victim. I think he killed her or left her to die in a remote area. What kind of person returns home in her vehicle, says nothing about her whereabouts or why she would just give him her vehicle and belongings, then lawyer up. Evil.

[@JC-pq4ul]

A guilty person! Now he is missing too!

[@MissHannah2036]

I was wondering if he was expected home or just spontaneously turned up. They both lived together, I don't how you just turn up home without your girlfriend who you live with and the family does not wonder why or where she is.

[@superflybguy2622]

Are you dense??? The police report clearly states witnesses saw her striking him then she chased him into the van, locking her out , she then climbed into the window and continued ito assault him. She was still assaulting him when the cops pulled them over

[@___LC___]

@@superflybguy2622 oh, so he is missing and she is presumed to have murdered him….I see….

[@gabrielacard7050]

There is narcissistic abuser written all over him .

[@kristis4147]

Too bad Authorities didn’t arrest Brian for “ grand Theft auto” for driving Gabbys van back to Florida without her. He would’ve at least been in custody until she was found.

[@Sabogey]

Too bad the van wasn't reported stolen by the owner.

[@cwilsoninfinity]

they couldn't have done that. The vehicle's owner must report the vehicle stolen. Even Gabby's parents couldn't have done that as it was not their vehicle and Gabby was already deceased.

[@daniellenard2872]

It would have to be unauthorized use of a vehicle . A little different than GTA

[@world-traveler880]

@@cwilsoninfinity doesnt the van get passed down to the parents if she died?

[@brenzlee2946]

No grounds..for that. That's a smart move from dirty laundry.

[@nicoledavis7031]

I've watched over 20 news clips on Gabby missing and you're the only one who reported that Brian flew back to Florida to help his dad for a few days.

[@morgantaylor517]

I didn't know that either, very strange to do that.

[@djcastano1180]

@@morgantaylor517 it was right after their altercation. My guess would be, the dad called him and said “you guys might need a little break from each other. I’ll buy you a ticket so you can fly back and help me for a few days and clear your head then you can fly back to her.”

[@susiebrown6646]

That’s true. I only heard that here. How does Doc get his info

[@tjadventures9163]

I didnt know that either.

[@laurenmay2098]

I hope he is not charge in Florida, juros from Florida are not good. He did something wrong, we just do know what.

[@theaviary238]

The van was actually hers so makes it even more weird that he ended up with it and not her.

[@cormacsugrue7135]

In the police bodycam footage he said that he kept the keys to the van because he was afraid that she was going to leave him.

[@oreli2556]

I think this is just for media attention. They have no life...blogs and cross country trips... she's alive somewhere

[@allthingswavy6420]

In that body cam video she also said she wasn't able to drive the van very well.

[@Hallo81398]

not weird. in the body cam footage she told the cop she felt uncomfortable driving the van so the van might be registered on her name, but her boyfriend apparently drove it most of the time

[@baaamakingbaaaa]

@@oreli2556 I haven't seen an actual tear on a cheek yet. I just see two horrible actors.

[@terrywade3696]

You overlooked one very big factor; Brian drove home to Florida in Gabby’s van without Gabby! If she wandered off, disappeared, or vanished into thin air, why would Brian leave for Florida in her van without her and without notifying anyone in Wyoming that she was missing? No calls home or to her parents or local authorities? No search parties, nothing! That’s because he knew she was dead before he left Wyoming! You don’t just leave a loved one stranded in a far away state, take their car and say nothing and just go home and get a lawyer! She wasn’t declared missing for 11 days! Brian was involved in her death, accidental or otherwise! End of story!

[@lowcountrythrash2874]

He didn’t overlook that factor. At 9:45 he speaks on that specific matter

[@terrywade3696]

@@lowcountrythrash2874 Not actually. He says Brian returned home without Gabby and refused to talk. He never mentioned that Brian was driving her car, never called anyone (parents, authorities, etc.) about her being missing before he left Wyoming without her or how he could just take her car, leave her there and not report her missing for 11 days!

[@evelynmcconnell6833]

Hi Terry, Your post says everything I was thinking too. It’s sadly not the outcome I had hoped for, so heartbreaking for her family and friends…there relationship became toxic..Brian was punching above his weight and I think the idea of losing her was not something he was going to allow….I also believe his parents know more than their saying, I also believe they helped him get a head start. If they did then I hope they get charged with aiding and abetting…..that poor beautiful girl should not be dead….god bless Gabby..🙏🙏🙏🙏☘️☘️☘️❤️❤️

[@truthofthematter9409]

@@lowcountrythrash2874 Listen, the guy showed up home w/o Gabby with her vehicle, didn't call her parents or police at all then his parents take him to the wooded area and claim he disappeared but will NOT speak to the police at all... why wouldn't they?

[@Sarah-N709]

Period. Dude is guilty AF

[@laureldevine]

So Brian comes home WOTHOUT Gabby and they refuse to return her parents calls and texts, then they house a fugitive when they KNOW the police are looking to question him, then they lawyer up, and then he goes into "hiding" and they don't tell the police until 4DAYS LATER? In the meantime, they move his car and send the cops on a wild goose chase through the forest - thus giving him time to evade police. Sounds like these people should be up on charges for aiding and abetting in a crime. These people are scum.

[@Sabogey]

"These people are scum" You don't know that yet. Before you say "it's obvious" ask, would it make YOU scum of the earth if they're actually innocent? Because you know, innocent until proven guilty. Or is the new world, we have to prove our innocence? Like the Salem witch trials.

[@ttonAb2]

@@Sabogey prove innocence! everyone is guilty! You should know this by how all the youtube comments.

[@Sabogey]

@@FLo-jc7ig "Well" "let" "ME" tell "YOU" that "You" "Use" quotations "a little" too much. Like why are you quoting those words? lol Hey Shirley! Are you "listening" because we're actually reading and writing here. You also didn't spell my name right, even though it's right in front of your face. If you can't see all that in front of your face, then maybe you shouldn't be an online private investigator. lol. All I'm saying is, it's innocent until proven guilty. Will "YOU" call "yourself" "Scum of the earth" if it's found that she died by leaving and dying in the desert? Like shit, I'm sure the guy is guilty. He probably did murder her. However he's currently innocent. Shirley, how do we know you weren't one of the people who planned the attack on capitol hill? Prove your innocence! lol "Shirley, you can't be serious".

[@marthayounger9219]

Brayan is not in the reserve he is long gone everything was planned out the parents took him to hiding then went and park his car to make believe that the SOB was in the reserve and vanished they know were he is.

[@smokeyoak]

@@Sabogey lmao I want to subscribe to your comments

[@theherbpuffer]

Him not reporting her missing at all says it all, 'nuff said.

[@Lynn-ip9sh]

@Nick Thomas They're gonna get him to speak sooner or later. Its illegal to hide from the law like that. This is serious info he is withholding. Hes basically lying to the feds by being silent.

[@amsel256]

True

[@baby5968]

@@Lynn-ip9shno, he can plead the fifth and remain silent.

[@Lynn-ip9sh]

@@baby5968 Happens all the time I saw a guy plead not guilty he stayed silent and all, he still got arrested because he was the only suspect. (He was guilty btw.) Same things about to happen to the laundry detergent loser.

[@nathanj9350]

@@Lynn-ip9sh Legally speaking law enforcement cannot force anyone to speak with them despite what the public believes. Grand juries are for that, despite that state grand juries are becoming less and less, federal grand juries are still being used. But as of now this case lacks federal jurisdiction.

[@KatJ3st]

Dr Grande you have covered this more concisely and sensibly than anyone else on KZbin.

[@tamedshrew235]

Thats what i like about Dr Grande- he is very clear and concise. And of course entertaining with his dry sarcastic wit.

[@T_1357_F]

It appears that Gabby's fears of abandonment were well founded, and not irrationally based.

[@ivyyoung521]

Abusers sometimes use the fear of abandonment to control. I've had an abusive ex threaten to leave me in some scary spots before.

[@TyShyBrickWorld]

@@ivyyoung521 maybe she was the abuser. Truth is we don’t know the officers found the boyfriend scratched up all on the face and arms and she admitted it. That doesn’t mean he isn’t guilty . This whole thing is bizarre

[@g.w.7893]

At the same time, it was that separation anxiety that kept her hanging around this douche-bag.

[@831mrscardoso]

He probably threatened to leave her on more than one occasion.

[@jnagarya519]

@@ivyyoung521 Yep: all evil originates with men, and women are only ever victims. Despite the fact that it takes two to dance.

[@terripoulos7379]

OCD is realizing the bricks on the wall aren’t lined up and you sit here the entire video wanting to rearrange everything til it is. Great vid and great explanation of the situation

[@elanahammer1076]

Dr. Grande and community… This is exactly why I love animals more and more they are consistent, loving and loyal. The deplorable things that humans are willing to do to one another is beyond disturbing. Thank you 🤔❤️🇺🇸

[@teddysterriertales]

same

[@jackirodriguez8673]

Ditto...

[@threefreaksonaleash6619]

Ditto. Exactly.

[@jnagarya519]

The universe is a self-cannibal. Cats are carnivorous predators.

[@edithnotime4losers295]

@@jnagarya519 Do cats kill people then lawyer up to escape punishment of crime?

[@WarlordRising]

I remember visiting Zion and Arches. Man, it can get lonely on those roads. Hours can go by without seeing a car, resting location, or anything man-made beyond the road you're on. It was summer. The temps can get brutal with no shelter from the sun.

[@mbrights3158]

the way you describe it..it seem like it's enough to make an unstable person go crazy...

[@anthonylewis8253]

Why would you go there then ? U can't be normal

[@lmaoashley]

@@anthonylewis8253 he might not have known that it was that brutal before going. Chill tf out.

[@anthonylewis8253]

@@lmaoashley I'm chill Karen..

[@anthonylewis8253]

@@winterweib get a life.

[@violator2695]

Just proves, what you see online via influencers isn't always reality ...

[@MrAwesomeaditya]

Is never*

[@veep5712]

Or.. on KZbin.

[@jamesphilipson1289]

@@veep5712 which is online

[@zacharypayne4080]

@@MrAwesomeaditya wrong

[@cyclist68]

@@zacharypayne4080 Just writing that one word shows your addiction to social media. Don't believe me? Put your phone down for a couple of days and satay offline, see if you aren't craving it and bored to distraction. Everybody that goes on SM every day is highly addicted, they just live in denial about it.

[@lindamurphy7730]

You made an excellent point about how talkative he was with the police when then were pulled over and how he went silent all of a sudden. I think he was talking a lot to divert them from the reality of the situation and because he was nervous. Gabby was clearly the victim in terms of her behavior. It’s truly heartbreaking to watch how traumatized she was.

[@ichbin9082]

LAUNDRIE MADE MASONIC HAND GESTURES TO THE COP.

[@shanefsr6609]

I bet he's an addict of some sort-probably both of them, he may have been high and that would lead to being overly chatty, they both fidget the whole time too, the up and down level of emotion and public outbursts-2 little meth heads

[@paulriede]

@@iamnothing9639 Gabby had more visible injuries than Brian.

[@loralieisa]

@@ichbin9082 OK-But did the cop respond back with masonic hand gestures?

[@iamnothing9639]

@@paulriede Where are you getting your facts? The police noticed & pointed out Brian's injuries and asked him about them. They had to ask Gabby if she was injured and could she show them. They took photos of his injuries, and they took none of hers. Again, where are you getting your facts?

[@solfly6]

My knee-jerk reaction when first hearing about this was “balloon boy” all over again to promote their channel. After watching the body cam video and learning more, I think this guy did something to her. In that video, two things that he said stood-out to me. 1: He called her crazy and 2: He admitted to pushing her. I think it’s likely that he pushed her again, only this time it was over a cliff or into a fissure. Whatever the case, the outcome of this is not going to be good, I’m sorry to say. One more thing, the video revealed that, even though he was trying to act diplomatic, he was blaming her and she was blaming herself for everything. Sound familiar?

[@AmyAndThePup]

Yeah. Sounds like abuse.

[@hazztv6317]

Narcissistic behavior.

[@SinMore]

I worked in a shelter and the women where always apologizing first. It's extremely rare for battered boyfriend syndrome. That usually involves a father with a wife with substance abuse issues and children. This situation I believe Brian was emotionally abusing her and he probably thought it was normal.. it's amazing how many men view their girlfriends or wives as objects that should be quiet or be fixed.

[@solfly6]

@@hazztv6317 Bingo!

[@elguapo5124]

The two were a ticking time bomb, both are unstable

[@wy4553]

Once again, people's seemingly ideal lives on social media is just a facade.

[@rustyshackleford8473]

Gabby wanted to become internet famous. Well be careful what you wish for...

[@gjh9299]

@@rustyshackleford8473 if they both want to live in vans and not just the one, it can work. She didn't go missing from being on IG she chose the wrong bf

[@rustyshackleford8473]

@@gjh9299 she chose an empty and shallow existence. Seems her boyfriend got tired of it all and left her.

[@tigtiger1]

@@rustyshackleford8473 So be careful what you wish for, 'cause you just might get it.

[@dollcrazy300]

Yep! People are people; which means there has to be some level of crazy in somebody at some time to some degree.

[@user-ps2mi9ze5v]

I just watched the heartbreaking video of her dad pleading with Brian and his family to tell him where his daughter is. I can’t imagine what Gabbys loved ones are going through. I hope she’s safe, but fact that he retained an attorney speaks for itself.

[@SongWhisperer]

Ya really, only a crazy person would want to talk to the cops. The cops have a terrible track-record for twisting suspects words and creating false narratives just to make the investigation gel with their theories. The cops have gotten so bad at corrupting investigations that even the Supreme Court says to never talk to the cops without an attorney present, my guess is that Brian’s lawyer has advised him to shut his mouth so they can put a case together for the trial. There’s only a few options of what could have happened to Gabby, maybe in her poor mental state she killed herself or she took off (without telling Brian) and left with an unknown person or maybe she’s lost somewhere not really knowing who or where she is and Brian really doesn’t know where she is either. Or - Brian planned Gabby’s murder and set everything up to look like it was Gabby’s fault and not his, Brian might have instigated the fight between Gabby and hisself the day the cops pulled them over and Brian made it look like Gabby was the abuser with poor mental health and a history of hitting Brian so he can set up a self defence case for court or make it look like there was some kind of accident that happened during one of Gabby’s freak outs (alleged freak outs) and the 2 girls from the hotel were just in the wrong place at the wrong time and Brian killed the 2 girls to get rid of witnesses. Or - Brian was planning this murder for awhile and he killed the 2 girls to make it look like there’s a local murderer killing women and it would throw the cops off his trail. Either way, Brian and most likely the lawyer knows what happened to Gabby and the information the lawyer & Brian has is very incriminating to the case so they’re avoiding law enforcement at all cost. The fact that the lawyer won’t tell the cops anything (even though attorney client privilege is invoked) probably means that whatever it is that they know isn’t good because with Brian’s permission the lawyer could have at least told the cops of Gabby’s last known position before Gabby and Brian went their separate ways, not even doing that simple kind act for the family probably means that whatever the outcome is it won’t be good for Gabby or Brain. I also heard another theory that some psychos might have killed the 2 girls and kidnapped Gabby & Brian and they let Brian go to gather up some ransom money to save Gabby and himself and that’s why the lawyer and Brian’s family are being so hush hush because they don’t want anything bad to happen to Gabby. Of course I know this is a big stretch but in this crazy world you just never know what is fiction and what is reality. Anyway, now that I left you a short novel (LoL) tell me what you think (only if you want to).

[@kilifzz]

the guy has been silent the whole time, what heck of a mind does he have to let her family suffer so much

[@SongWhisperer]

@@kilifzz • He might be a sociopath or psychopath, people can actually hide that pretty good if they want to. Whatever is wrong with him every one in his life is suffering right now so I’d say there’s a touch of narcissism in there somewhere too.

[@hairyhunk44]

She's no longer alive

[@SongWhisperer]

@@hairyhunk44 • Do you know that for sure, or are you making a good educated guess?

[@shelbylou02]

I found it interesting he went home to help move their items. That's very odd considering his Father could have gotten anyone to help him. Also, since Gabby didn't like being alone it's odd she spend days at the hotel alone.

[@primecrime4688]

I wonder what was really going on.

[@dianneholden2495]

As far as I understand she only spent one night alone when the police told her she needs to be separated from Brian immediately after the police talked to them about their fight.

[@ashleysadler5244]

@@dianneholden2495 wrong, the week after she stayed in a hotel in SLC and Brian flew home for a few days around the 19-25th or so

[@shelbylou02]

@@dianneholden2495 No, she was left alone for a few days when he went home to apparently move their belongings to a storage unit.

[@ayselondon3754]

They did hide some evidence or valuables

[@CarolineBearoline]

PSA: If you flip your lid on your significant other and it leads to their death /disappearance on a road trip, don't just casually come home alone and not help with the search. If you did kill them and don't want to face legal punishment, go ahead and off yourself, but leave a note and the location of the body... don't just come home and treat the victim's family like they're dumb or unworthy of justice ffs

[@ivyyoung521]

Right?!

[@lindamaroukis4586]

Caroline Cruz. Exactly!!

[@jamesjacocks6221]

Right, except those who wig out and kill aren't likely rational. We will probably find issues throughout both families. The "I'm precious, they are commodities" viewpoint is everywhere today. Illusion and miscalculation are central to sociopathic personalities. Sorry, Dr. Grande. That's just a layman's understanding.

[@CarolineBearoline]

@@jamesjacocks6221 I hear what you're saying, but if you're rational enough to lawyer up, rational enough to know you don't want to go to jail, you're rational enough to admit guilt and the location of the body in a suicide letter and do to yourself what you did to her

[@CarolineBearoline]

@Pianist Philadelphia the family members of the Camelot clan aren't subject to legal retribution, apparently. But boy, have they paid dearly nonetheless

[@southerngirlsociety]

That guy totally drove all the way back to Florida without her, never told anyone what was happening, got home and lawyered up... He's not talking because he's left her body somewhere that he's hoping will be disposed of by wild animals before they are able to finally figure out where she was last. He knows everything and he's just not talking...

[@200991602]

They were doing cliff shots , I have this horrible feeling he pushed her or she fell and he left because he didn't care to call the police about an accident because to him this was a way to get rid of her. Personally I think he pushed her , then drove home to contruct an " accident " scenario.

[@anaorsini316]

Oscoms Razor.

[@sararyan1255]

🤭👍👍😞😭

[@Suzismart]

Totally agree. If there was an accident, why didn't he call the police? If she ran off, again, why didn't he call the police or tell someone. We hiked the Teton pass... All kinds of wild animals... But I think something happened before they even got there.

[@Nikkinogood]

And now he is missing since Tuesday

[@susiebrown6646]

I’ve been following this case. You did an EXCELLENT job on your analysis. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@dgmaffi]

Brian looks closer to 33 years old than 23 years old. EDIT: Everybody thinks I was focusing on his baldness. First off, I am not making fun of his baldness at all. I was just stating what I think is a fact. He just looks much older than his age. Having now seen many different videos and pictures of Brian I stand by my statement even more. He seems to have crows feet by the eyes, which doesn't mean you are old, but when you combine that with his balding, and an overall bit of weathering to his face (probably from spending most of his time outdoors in the elements) it certainly gives him an appearance of someone who is closer to 33 than 23.

[@davidethangraham]

don't hate cuz he bald

[@robrob7011]

Im 30 Bald looking short buzz cut People think im 17 Lol

[@freddieyvangievelez2382]

Come on he's not 23....

[@davidethangraham]

@@robrob7011 ight den bobby. no need to rub it in. i had to wear a wig in this picture to look like marv from home alone

[@SavedByJesusHeimatLiebe]

and she looks like a 12 year old :'((

[@TheThatgirl007]

Reminds me how cool, calm and collective Chris Watts was before he confessed.

[@thirdeyejourney]

Omg dude was so guilty AF during that interview outside his home, where he was pleading for them. He said "like" probably about a million times. ☠️☠️☠️

[@Elena-er7zp]

that’s not how I saw it. I could feel Watt’s nervous energy below the surface.

[@metalgear292]

@@thirdeyejourney like, if somebody has them 🙂 I just want them to come back 🙂

[@jpw6984]

I like....miss them I guess

[@ckit6_fitness]

Have you seen the interrogation tapes of him. Man was not cool and pretty much gave up in like 2 days

[@siasd829]

You're the first one to suggest what I've thought since seeing the body cam video of Gabby saying she was afraid Laundrie was going to leave her in the desert. If that is the case , her demise would have been horrific.

[@psycho4agY]

You’re right. I feel like what she said has been overlooked. That is frightening to even think about!

[@tapriciasiwel1198]

How he leave her then take her van to his home? I believe she is dead n wherever her remains are if there are any the animals and nature took its course, giving Brian time. Brian is a fucked up person😤

[@zacatkinson3926]

why horrific? the heat?

[@Pi_Cue]

@@zacatkinson3926 probably yeah. Disorienting. Exhausting. Heat stroke. Mirage and delusions. Desert wildlife. (Recently someone went missing in the Az desert. Case: Daniel Robinson. They found his wallet, phone and vehicle rolled over but not him. (The vehicle was driven for 11 miles after the airbags deployed but was found on its side. Really weird story). Anyway, during the search and rescue operation, it was reported that partial remains of up to five other humans were recovered. No follow up on that part yet. I have walked for a short while in the Az desert heat while shooting target practice and gotten heat exhaustion and disoriented - with plenty of water and knowing my way around. The sun is relentless and it doesn't take long to get sick. I imagine it feels like an eternity if you're stuck walking around not knowing where you are with likely limited supplies in this hypothetical. I also picture her crying if this is the situation and further losing fluid.) A woman from TikTok says she picked Brian up and he was already alone by August 29th. Gabby called her family on August 25th. Both of these happened around Grand Teton National Park in Wyoming. While some have theorized that he hauled her body along his return drive and dumped her out along the route, that doesn't fit the TikTok story very well. It would be more likely that she is still somewhere in WY near GTNP. I hope the family gets the answers they need, even if they're not the answers they want. Godspeed Gabby

[@petermorhead4160]

@@zacatkinson3926 dehydration.

[@kilofoxtrotdelta6112]

The very least he could do is through his lawyers inform the police of when and where he last saw Gabby, and what was her physical and mental state was. But the very fact that, that information would incriminate him, tells you all you need to know.

[@ScubaSteveCanada]

Not gonna happen since it's the lawyer that has advised his client not to talk to the Police. When Police have gathered enough evidence to support that a crime has actually been committed, and, it that crime points directly to him, he'll change his tune.

[@kilofoxtrotdelta6112]

@@ScubaSteveCanada yeah for sure, he will use the 5th until he can't. But hardly the actions of someone who is supposed to be her fiancé and supposed to love her.

[@applepie3276]

Exactly

[@HR-wd6cw]

While I agree that would be the "right" thing to do, it also would place him at the scene or confirm he is a suspect in this case. He's already a person of interest, however admitting anything would make him a suspect (especially if it lead to locating her, either dead or alive). I'm not saying that what he is doing is right, because he needs to talk. Even if he legitimately is NOT involved in her disappearance (although I speculate he is in at least some fashion) but that his unwillingness to cooperate isn't entirely out of the ordinary either. What I do find suspicious is that now he's also "missing". Which to me, screams that he knows something, he knows with all the searches going on, they're going to find something, and it's going to link back to him in some way. Trust me, I'm in agreement with you. If he knows, he should admit where he last saw her. There is a slim chance she is still alive and could be rescued. But as the experts have said, each day that goes by greatly increases the chance of finding her alive at lot lower, and she's supposedly been gone I think about 2 weeks now according to other news and articles.

[@cobracommander9138]

The police and the public have made up their mind that he killed her. The police don't care about the truth they just want to charge and arrest him and get the case closed. Anything he says will incriminate him. Especially if he's innocent. I also think he killed her but there have been some cases where a stranger came by right after the boyfriend left and killed the girlfriend and the guy ends up in jail until DNA or the actual killer confesses because he's already doing life for something else.

[@alicecanavan550]

I love how u explain everything. Keep up the good work.

[@josephmaloney3140]

The most interesting aspect of this very fine review of the facts was the information concerning the trip home in August. Brian almost certainly knows what happened to Gabby, and it is just as clear that he expects to be charged when this becomes a murder case. The strategy is pretty clear, under no circumstances will he hand the police anything, he is placing all his money on the presumption that sufficient evidence does not exist to convict him.

[@SoManyRandomRamblings]

Since the trip to the storage unit was just days after the murdered couple was last seen....I think he may have evidence from that crime, or maybe even others during their trip, maybe he needed to hide evidence when it started looking like she wasn't going to always keep going along with it.... 🤔

[@AndrewKW12]

So there are 2 Sherlock Holmes in this world

[@lonelylantern9135]

It just means if he gives nothing then the prosecution will give nothing. No cushy deals for the coward. He won't ever get out.

[@kristinamusantejd735]

Time passing helps the defendant in most cases. Like in the Casey Anthony case for example.

[@stevecorrell9325]

Your first sentence fine review that's a joke, right? A school child could have came up with this opinion. And he's a doctor

[@mbrights3158]

I thought his behavior was weird during the incident with the police. For one thing he was smiling and joking much of the time which isn't typical/normal behavior in a stressful situation in my opinion. Also Brian would not pull over....according to the cop "they knew I was behind them" The fact that he wouldn't pull over is obviously what prompted Gabby to try to force him to pull over (seems logical). I'm so curious why his refusal to pull over was not treated as a problem by the cops. Nor was he cited for speeding (45 in a 25...or was it 15 mph). Last but not least he was trying to be charming with the officers, asking them random questions about themselves etc...that behavior seemed suspicious also.

[@dalhousieDream]

Was he acting weirdly nervous because he had something to hide...like a double murder?? I wonder...

[@SoManyRandomRamblings]

I agree the way he was acting reminded me of watching an episode of criminal minds in the first half when the killer is getting away with it still. And he probably delayed pulling over so he could tell Gabby what she was and wasn't allowed to say.

[@jones2277]

he just seemed like a young person nervous about getting into trouble.

[@SoManyRandomRamblings]

@@dalhousieDream I also think he may have killed before the police footage....... but I think it wasn't the couple being discussed, I think that they were just the latest of his victims, that he got sloppy by it being ones where there is evidence of them crossing paths.

[@Eyesofthebeholder214]

The Officers said they could cite him for speeding or just give a warning? Obviously they had bigger fish to fry. And seeing that two women were brutally murdered near by probaly had them going threw a different agenda than a normal traffic stop. In addition some people laugh or talk in a hyper way when nervous. Thats not unusual.

[@ninisherebaxley7589]

The fact that his parents are protecting him at all costs, instead of advising him to cooperate with Gabbys family and the police speaks volumes about them as human beings. Apple doesn't fall far from the tree with this disgusting family.

[@realtrainman1269]

We dont have all the facts yet. You are disgusting for judging them without knowing.

[@reesedaniel5835]

@@realtrainman1269 We have enough facts to know they are disgusting people!! His girlfriend is missing, he stole her vehicle and drove it across the country to hide at his parent's house without reporting her missing and none of them answering the phone calls of her frantic and heart broken parents. Your flagrant lack of basic common sense, empathy for the missing girl and discernment is BEYOND disgusting!!

[@mg6192]

@@realtrainman1269 how's an educated assumption "disgusting"?

[@jasongraham8250]

As a parent and person who seen plenty media witch hunts in this country I’d advise my kid to keep his mouth shut and let his lawyer do the talking too.

[@beccac6812]

@@realtrainman1269 they got a lawyer before reporting the girl missing. If they’re not covering something up, bare minimum it’s selfish and irresponsible.

[@Karax2525]

Probably the most unbiased and informative analysis I've found. Thanks.

[@GodsOath_com]

Immediately separating her from her family was the first sign of trouble.

[@NaomiIsSoAwesome98]

@furriesfuckanimals weebsanimetrash lol so every victim is their fault too? did she tango when he killed her???

[@based4822]

Dude looks weird and slimy even in the pictures with her

[@sweetmapleleafs]

Her family must have wanted Gabby out of their home so bad that they bought him the vehicle to take her out as far as possible.

[@lilpoohbear653]

always is...it's a classic sign. My daughters abuser did that immediately...thank God she got away from him...took her 8 years to do it but she got away

[@humaneleaguelancPA]

@mikeinbc I just watched the body cam, the cops did not say she beat him, they actually said to the guy, I have to take photo's of the scratches you have even though they are minor. Yes, legally she was the aggressor because of the scratches, but let me know when on the body cam they said she BEAT him, please.

[@istateyourname4710]

LE and relationship experts always say the most dangerous time is when a partner decides to leave. She likely told him she's done & he did the worst.

[@jnagarya519]

Or he told he her HE was done.

[@USALibertarian]

No not likely.

[@suzygordon2331]

@@jnagarya519 Right. It's much more likely he was driven mad by her behavior and didn't know how to deal with her 'manic" state, as he called it.

[@junipersages]

He could have told her that he's done, flew home and she committed suicide while he was gone--or she ran into whoever was killing women in the Moab area (assuming it was someone unrelated to this case). I also suspect the boyfriend, but there are also plausible alternatives. I could see him heading back because she threatened to commit suicide, then couldn't find her when he came back.

[@jaimeriddle8357]

In the video of the domestic dispute when the officer told Gabby he was separating them for the night she got really upset. She did not want to separate and Brian told the officers he thought separating was a good idea. If anyone wanted out of the relationship it was him.. IMO Then he flew back to Florida for a week probably thinking in his head he was done w the relationship. I’m thinking they talked on the phone and he decided to go back and maybe give it another chance or at least finish out the trip w her so she wasn’t alone. They end up getting into another heated argument and I think something accidentally happened.. his actions afterwards just don’t make sense. But the video from the police shows no indication that he’s a murderer and she was much was the aggressor. I really hope the family gets some answers bc there’s so much that doesn’t make sense.

[@moxiemaxie3543]

I really appreciate all the effort and time you put into bringing us content

[@RiverWhisperPrd]

Dr....I appreciate your calm, sensible, and thorough assessment of this case.

[@trailerparkboys3390]

Ok!

[@Huy_Nguyen_USA]

He’s the oldest looking 23-year-old I’ve ever seen.

[@quinlan6968]

All the sun none of the sunscreen

[@michaeljkasnter]

Drugs

[@ipodtouchfreak100]

I’m 24 and look younger than him

[@ETGcasper]

Facts

[@ETGcasper]

@@ipodtouchfreak100 I’m 33 and look younger than him.....

[@ThisChick1213]

It’s very strange to me that he had a lawyer before the family even knew she was missing…. Doesn’t sound like she just walked away and left him

[@alejandronunez7650]

yeah, he returned alone without her, didn't report her missing, went straight to his parents and hired a lawyer. yet refuses to cooperate with the police.

[@batesvillbilly368]

In America you have certain rights that protect you from government. Included is the right to remain silent.

[@BIKEMAN21]

@@batesvillbilly368 he has the right to not say anything that may incriminate himself... maybe he broke up with her and judging by her being a psycho maybe she killed herself

[@batesvillbilly368]

@@BIKEMAN21 I agree.

[@batesvillbilly368]

@fook yee I take it you don't live here and get your "news" about America from reddit. You and other radical leftists sound like a parody of your former selves. If what you said is true how did O.J get off and George Floyd's murderer get convicted?

[@kimberlyh4364]

I’m believe he just left her somewhere out in the middle of nowhere. She had a fear of being abandoned and he actually tried to keep her from getting back in the van. Maybe he went back to find her and he couldn’t find her. At the very least, that’s what he probably told his parents. I can’t believe his parents are protecting him. My parents would have made me face the consequences of my actions no matter what it might have been.

[@louisemay532]

Yes, unless he told them a convincing story. Thought I doubt he's innocent, he could be but still look guilty.

[@evarodriguez4319]

If he had just left her, he would have called police or someone to help find her. He told the police, opposite of what she was telling the police. Gabby gained entry into car by climbing through the driver's window. Brian stated he had already left her behind before. He seemed possessive of the car keys.

[@nobodysreview6137]

@@evarodriguez4319 Shits crazy man but that girl was out of her mind.

[@kimberlyh4364]

@@nobodysreview6137 I think they both have issues of some sort, plus being together 24/7 for a long time added more stress. I’m not going to put the blame all on her in the bodycam.

[@mudbridge2762]

Even if that were true (which it most likely isn’t), her family would have heard from her by now. They haven’t. We can’t be naive about this.

[@laura155]

Mr Todd Grande thank you for all of the help you have given me. You and Dr Ramini are the best!! Please never stop! I never knew half of what I know now if it wasn't for you!

[@LadyCaspar]

I have been waiting for you to speak on this. I hope by some miracle that she’s safe.

[@brooklynbabyy8314]

If his family knows where she is/what happened to her, I pray they get charged as well

[@75silverfish]

With your logic, we'd be putting every attorney in jail that defended a guilty client. His parents couldn't possibly know if he was telling the truth or not unless there was evidence, even then, you'd have to proof that he actually told them or not, which isn't currently possible again, without evidence.

[@cesswood4able]

@@75silverfish good luck with that. Aiding and abetting a murderer is a capital crime.

[@75silverfish]

@@cesswood4able Aiding is assisting, supporting, or helping another to commit a crime. Abetting is encouraging, inciting, or inducing another to commit a crime. The crime if there was one was already committed, so the parents would just be considered an accessory after the fact. Punishments for aiding and abetting can be just as bad as murder, helping after the fact, that be considered a misdemeanor in some cases, or even if a felony, no where near anything with significant charges to the others. You'd also have to prove intent and knowledge the parents had of the crime, and even if they did, you really think they wouldn't lie and say their son told them something different? Have fun getting that evidence, "good luck with that."

[@emilypaige732]

They could potentially be charged with accessory after the fact but there would have to be a lot of really good solid evidence.

[@bodbn]

@@cesswood4able no it's not.

[@varrick1226]

I like this Doctor, he’s calm, collected and withholds judgment. I think his analysis is correct.

[@Knowledge_wisdomwins]

I agree. And RIP Gabby. 😢

[@ismth]

Very asmr

[@goodkrypollo1706]

@@ismth ASMR should be personal imo. Like "wow I just had an orgasm in my brain" people will be like wtf?

[@Down_the_Wind]

@@goodkrypollo1706 yeah it’s not personal at all. Only if you make it weird will it be weird.

[@johnny10grasp3]

Well.... one cant help but to be subjective. He's not a robot so he has his bias.

[@TheMaggiemay77]

Something very suspicious about Brian flying home to reportedly move belongings of his and Gabby’s in or out of a storage unit with his father. Who bothers to do that when you’re on a van trip on the other side of the country. That alone seems very suspicious.

[@MydNyteRayne]

that whole thing bothers me too. He was gon for about a week... Gabby stayed alone at a hotel. does anyone know if he drove or flew back.?

[@nevadagrace3514]

And with the girlfriend missing. and his parents ignoring numerous calls from her family?!

[@stevenevangelist5221]

There all guilty. Attorney has ethics violations. Wrongful death lis pendens asap. We need answers.

[@johnwalsh7931]

Drove

[@georgebailey7256]

Ive learned more about this case in the first 3 minutes of your video than any other news outlet. Thank you.

[@rullmourn1142]

I think their engagement being called off before going on the trip is a major factor in why this ended up the way it did.

[@DarhaLB]

Who called off the engagement?? I missed that

[@MA__]

Yeah where'd you get this info?

[@rullmourn1142]

@@DarhaLB ..IDK whose idea it was, but, then they went back to just being boyfriend/girlfriend.

[@DarhaLB]

@@rullmourn1142 ok I see. They are while she is very immature and sheltered. He obviously is. They lived with his parents and they were going to get married??? Perhaps they were saving to get their own place after marriage. But thank you for that tidbit of knowledge

[@Carol-wq9fr]

He Brian made an Instagram post about their engagement making a remark “until death do us part”.

[@user-cs1un6sp1wRennata]

"I hope that things turn out well" ... That is what I am hoping to see. Thank You Dr. Grande.

[@g.w.7893]

They won't.

[@peterspeters6114]

He should never of left her alone even if she wanted to be alone. Or contact her parents of her behavior so they could handle her.

[@misstmemrs]

He is allowing people to search desperately for her and says he will not reveal where he last saw her but hopes they find her. This is nonsense.

[@lanacritti5401]

Dr Grande, ur opinion of this case is very interesting as I agree.

[@misstmemrs]

Yes I noticed that. He was really working that thing.

[@boardgameblips9651]

The original 911 caller said that Brian slapped Gabby twice, not the other way around…

[@ttonAb2]

People getting clawed all over their face will eventually hit back.

[@bilbobaggins6810]

@@ttonAb2 People getting slapped will eventually try to defend themselves which may result in getting clawed, leaving behind the evidence of scratches.

[@ttonAb2]

@@bilbobaggins6810 uhuh you can make up whatever you want.

[@bilbobaggins6810]

@@ttonAb2 ok, we’ll do it your way. When someone gets slapped they shouldn’t try to protect themselves.

[@ttonAb2]

@@bilbobaggins6810 "People getting clawed all over their face will eventually hit back." aka slapping back.

[@peggysmith4814]

Surely the BF knows exactly the last time he saw her and could tell the police that much! To come home in her van and sit around and not contact her family to return HER van is just highly suspect.

[@dalhousieDream]

And cruel.

[@Sunset553]

I wonder if he had anything of his own.

[@sicilyny5375]

More like morbidly Cruel and Vicious

[@memyself4431]

I hope that she is found and the family may have peace

[@jimpatnomoniker7316]

My theory is this they were camped near the couple and he was probably off smoking or taking a poop heck maybe both right🤣🤣🤣heard the shots and seen dude runn off with his chick all yoked up Boy had to go get low and went home like mama I seen it all but not his face🤦🏾‍♂️ wwhat was I gonna do maaa😭😭😭 down fall is he didn’t report it henceforth lawyer says say nothing cause deep down u know nothing other then the next man really took ya chick after he killed 2 Otha ppl she gonna be with it cause she got ocd and he went all state property get down or lay down what u gonna do that’s ☝🏾 And ✌🏾he was sitting in the car and just drove the fuck off to save his self she running round trying to save herself and bodies herself he like Shyt took the fone went hom like mmmaaaaaa what do I dooo😭😭😭😭 long story short short story long he a whole human sack of trash watch👀👀💯💯💯💯💯

[@mackmcdonald6340]

@@jimpatnomoniker7316 you must not be american

[@jimpatnomoniker7316]

@@mackmcdonald6340 what makes u say that

[@mueckenhoeffer]

I appreciate your calm, accurate recap of the timeline, and unbiased presentation of the facts. In this case, we don't know what we don't know.

[@qlamar6872]

Isnt it refreshing? Instead of listening to the actual news? 😂

[@mueckenhoeffer]

@@qlamar6872 Not entirely sure if you're serious or sarcastic there, but yes, after seeing live coverage by big 3 networks of a 6 or 8 hour protest outside the BF's house, the news has nothing for me.

[@qlamar6872]

@@mueckenhoeffer I’m not being sarcastic haha what I meant by that comment was that it’s nice to just hear what happened in a timeline format. Nothing funded by huge institutions and such. It’s nice to just watch videos like these that give an independent report. No drama. No opinions. Just straight forward

[@christinekordyjaka2113]

Dear Doctor... I really enjoy your assessments. Thank you

[@DameVonBonDaisy]

I've been left behind in a random state before. It's the scariest thing ever. I rly feel for her & the family Edit- ty for the support!!- the driver was having a mental health crisis and returned a half n hr later. Still very awful 😖

[@yardfowl3149]

my parents used to do the same thing to me....

[@KonwTheTrut]

That fucking sucks.

[@g.w.7893]

But I'm assuming you made contact with someone within a few days? This has been three weeks...

[@amber40494]

I've been left at a motel in Puerto Rico, with no car, but I had my wallet. Had to walk to a car rental! No more creepy men! I'm done

[@DameVonBonDaisy]

@@g.w.7893 luckily the person came back after half n hr, he was going through a mental health crisis

[@thelocalmaladroit8873]

Ok I don’t know about Gabby but Dr Grande is leaving me behind. I just finished the latest podcast and now there’s already two videos today! Gotta love ❤️ our Doc!

[@marjoryrainey287]

I was watching an update on Gabby. And was wondering if Dr. Grande had made a vid on the case in less then a minute I found this!

[@dirtysanchez941]

He's a busy man, and we're here for him! ✌️❤️

[@amber40494]

Yes, thank you Dr. Grande

[@gaylesharp9652]

He knew she feared being abandoned. He may have got mad at her, and to be hateful he drove off without her. If he went back she may not have been there. She could have panicked and starting running to find help she could have got lost, and who knows what has happened to her. Then again, that may not even be remotely close to what has happened to her. I hope she’s found safe.

[@raidernation9920]

That’s not a theory too hard to believe. The bodycam footage showed he was scratched up, clearly they had issues getting along. He’s already guilty in the court of public opinion. And he’s not doing himself any favors with his silence. But there was two women found murdered at a location they were at. So there is a possibility of an unknown person who may be involved. I pray she’s found safe, but with each passing day it becomes less likely

[@kosmosbjm]

That sounds like a plausible explanation, and so easy to explain to the authorities, so then why hasn’t he?

[@missmew3499]

@@kosmosbjm this is my question. To me, this is what makes him guilty. Why hasn't he said where she is. If not to the public, then just tell her family. Her family must be going insane.

[@justinleereacts2927]

Boyfriend left her after she continually abused him. He thought she'd find help and make it home, but something terrible happened after he left. He should NOT talk to police because they and the public will just call him a liar.

[@elizabethm193]

Very good detailed coverage .thank you

[@elendilnz]

If someone is really missing and you love them, you don’t drive home across the country. You don’t hire a lawyer and hide. You stay and get help to find them. I think there will be a bad outcome 😢

[@MeganVictoriaKearns]

This does not look good at all. My God, I'm not even religious and I pray Gabby is found alive. Domestic violence is so devastating. Get help if you see signs, before this happens to you.

[@Mistysfedora]

Maybe

[@Howielate24]

Exactly 👍

[@AfroHairScience]

Sad, but true. 😢🥺😢😩

[@superflybguy2622]

You do if they already started hooking up with strangers in a hotel in MOAB while your taking 7 day break from each other. Read gabby's dad's early news interviews. He was ordering Uber eats for Gabby and another person (2 people a couple) while Brian had flown back to FL. When you find this out, you def break contact. You really need to research gabbies timeline while brian was in FL

[@2cents577]

Another well done video by Dr. G. Update: Gabby’s body has been found and Brian “disappeared”. I look forward to an updated video with an analysis of what is Brian’s state of mind as well as his parents behavior….? Heartfelt sympathy goes out to Gabby’s family. RIP Gabby

[@Bonzi_Buddy]

Odds are his parents are enablers like so many other parents.

[@laneswerve]

@@Bonzi_Buddy by enablers you mean "love their son"? you don't know what he came home and told them. no one does except them and their lawyer at this point.

[@Bonzi_Buddy]

@@laneswerve If your son murders someone and you house and help them until they vanish, that's enabling not love. I hope a vigilante catches him instead of the law and that person sends his head to your doorstep. You are an enabler too.

[@TylrVncnt]

@@Bonzi_Buddy dude WHAT... a “vigilante” are you serious...??!! Cmon man that is *NOT* justice in literally any way you slice it... Now I’d be alright if someone finds him and takes him in *alive* (he is incredddibly important to the investigation and figuring out what truly happened - which the family of Gabby’s would truly want...) It’s unlikely, BUT it IS a (small, but notable) possibility that the dude IS innocent... “Vigilante justice” SMFH man... cmon

[@reesemorgan2259]

They found a body, they haven't yet identified it. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[@AarmOZ84]

This has been all over the news since Gabby was last seen in my neck of the woods. I am worried that Brian and Gabby got into a fight and Brian hurt her enough out of anger to kill her and so he fled home and got lawyered up. Praying for Gabby in hopes I am wrong. 🙏🏻

[@jackirodriguez8673]

Sadly I believe you are right...

[@831mrscardoso]

That's what I think what happened here. Her OCD got on his last nerve and he had a mental break.

[@jnagarya519]

@@831mrscardoso Witness saw HER attacking HIM. So it must be that she's the victim, and HE "snapped".

[@kayxdd25]

@@jnagarya519 that person witnessed both of them get physical with each other, it was not one sided.

[@jennyshearer6916]

@@jnagarya519 witnesses saw a altercation he didn't see who the aggressor was , but you let a man try to lock me out of my house and see what he looks like if I can get to him. I guarantee they would have took my ass to jail because he wouldn't have no eyes left.

[@brkitdwn]

I stumble upon your vids now and again, and I really enjoy hearing what you have to say. That's is all.

[@carolynsaint6263]

I would check the storage facility that the boyfriend and his dad cleaned out in the middle of his trip. Seems odd

[@WarlordRising]

She was still in Utah at the time. I'm sure the hotel had CCTV footage of her. It's still an interesting clue, though.

[@laurel7570]

The storage unit is weird.

[@laurel7570]

Very odd.

[@ds1036]

Extremely strange, especially when he supposedly was so tight on finances that he couldn't afford a hotel room for one night. Seriously!? But he could afford a plane ticket to do something with a storage unit???

[@tta4168]

@@laurel7570 weird in what way? You mean he put her there?? She was still in Utah at a hotel..

[@cookie_dough_hangover]

I feel so sorry for her parents. I just can't imagine. I'm afraid Gabby is not alive anymore. 😩💔

[@AustinBigWig]

Sadly, you are correct. If she were alive, she would have contacted her parents by now. He is another Chris Watts. I don't blame the parents however for keeping whatever hope they have alive. If she were my daughter, I would be doing the same.

[@dirtysanchez941]

Very heartbreaking. 🙏❤️

[@Jabo__Jabo]

Yes. I have that sinking feeling as well. It’s clear she was/is loved by her parents and step-father.💔💔💔💔💔💔 My heart breaks for those left behind.

[@Animal-Reaction-Clips]

Your gorgeous!

[@chakenbacon]

I think just about everyone in America following this story knows Gabby isn’t coming home 😞

[@amandawakaoyao]

Omg I was hoping you would post about this case today!!!! Thanks!

[@rebeccamarrujo3849]

I love how you stay up to date with these cases. ❤❤

[@tmalfieri1]

Brian couldn’t look more suspicious if he tried. 😳

[@tylerticoalu5215]

You’re such a calming presence as you deal with disturbing issues. Love your channel 💫

[@matchbox7811]

I love you baby, but them eyebrows on that snow white skin of yours is a 0oh no, oh no, oh nonono no STILL LOVE YOU THO!!!!

[@matchbox7811]

@Your mom Dropping that jellyfish, well i'm the peanut butter you're the jelly and Tyler can be white ass bread, lets all just make a sandwich and shut up mom xD gosh you're so embarrassing no wonder daddy left you, always with your finger on the trigger button.

[@matchbox7811]

Ok I am nuts… I just realized that’s an incest sandwich… 😶

[@mujika.]

I really, really hope that gabby is alive and can be reunited with her parents. But, I can’t ignore the pit in my stomach telling me Brian did something to her.

[@catrashoo]

She was very problematic, she had anger management problems.

[@maia2437]

@@catrashoo ok and what is your point in saying that ?

[@sunshinegal4294]

@Sweden Borg Only because you have an ugly dark heart doesn’t mean that. YES! Soooo many here ARE sincerely praying for the best outcome! Only someone of no faith and an ugly heart would even say such a comment!

[@sunshinegal4294]

@@catrashoo I think there was A LOT of control and abuse going on behind the scenes and that gets to someone after awhile. I’ve been in an a abusive relationship and they control, manipulate, belittle, tell you you are crazy with gaslighting, etc. Especially a narcissist can be VERY charming on the outside, a smooth talker and stay in control and calm in front of others.

[@malindastone2871]

@@sunshinegal4294 YES!! The narcissist that suckered me into believing his lies had scratches on his face from his ex girlfriend. I felt sorry for him. I later found out he was as evil as satan behind closed doors. Charming as heck to the public.

[@CheyennefromTaos]

1) Brian has a history of aggression. Two videos were posted by bartenders who kicked him out due to due 'creepy' behaviors. 2) Brian showed signs of chronic Gaslighting with Gabby. My mother did it. My ex did it. All the signs were there. 3) My background is mental health therapist and DV advocacy. REST IN PARADISE, GABBY. YOU R SAFE NOW.

[@Random_Wierdo.]

Can you send me a footage of the guy being kicked out of the restaurant or link?

[@misossucken7280]

Interested in that Footage or source too

[@karendoshier9883]

There is a video online of witnesses to an incident on 8/27 where Brian was yelling at restaurant staff after being told to leave due to his aggressive behavior. He re-entered the restaurant 4 times to yell and throw a fit while Gabbie was outside crying. She finally followed him back into the restaurant and begged him to leave while apologizing to the hostess. There are interviews with her friend saying Brain was controlling and jealous and at least 10 times in the past few months before they started the trip they had huge fights over his jealousy and control issues. Also her dad had stated she worked and saved for 18 months to do the trip, The van was hers. Brain only had a cell phone owned by her and actually bought his own phone after September first when he left her and drove her van to Florida. lots of evidence of his controlling behavior. And apparently she was the finance for the trip.

[@misossucken7280]

@@karendoshier9883 No Video. Only witnesses

[@Random_Wierdo.]

@@karendoshier9883 please give the link

[@RyanAnthonyDigitalMedia]

I woke up this morning & hoped you were gonna make a video about this lol looks like we’re telepathic, Dr. Grande.

[@mattg4836]

You know how he feels about telepathy lol

[@ankejansen791]

Is there something here to lol?

[@joeyhyland]

Brian’s not speaking to authorities and already lawyered up. Gabby is missing in the vast and desolate wilderness. Under these circumstances it’ll be impossible to find her. He’ll be able to spin the narrative however he wants. He’s had plenty of time to work this out. It’s obvious he’s guilty but unfortunately I think he’ll be able to use the legal system to his advantage.

[@louisemay532]

Well, he's sure using the legal system to his advantage right now.

[@joeyhyland]

@@louisemay532 In the past we’ve seen similar cases where the guilty person tries to cover their tracks while cooperating with police and end up digging their own grave but Brian is in this odd power position by not cooperating and hiding behind his lawyer. It’s sad because it seems likely he’ll be able to get away with this. So infuriating because it’s so obvious that he’s at the very least guilty of leaving her stranded. I can’t even imagine how her family must be feeling right now.

[@wintercomesearly]

Law enforcement is only 5 days into this and that includes the FBI. With the prime person of interest keeping silent, it may take awhile longer but I believe they will solve the case, ie, nail him - soon enough.

[@KonwTheTrut]

I bet he’s gonna claim that he left her alive out there

[@joeyhyland]

@@KonwTheTrut There’s all sorts of crazy ways he can spin the story. The police didn’t get involved til well after her disappearance. She might not even be in the mountains of Utah or Wyoming.

[@kbarkhouse2082]

So did he tell her he was going to leave her somewhere ?! To frighten her he’s sick because he caused her anxiety and then tortured her by leaving her somewhere!!!

[@ryarbrough1195]

....What are you talking about? For a moment imagine.. Is it possible SHE was the abuser? And he left because it was unsafe.

[@kbarkhouse2082]

@@ryarbrough1195 then if he wasn’t safe he should have stayed in Florida but for some reason he came back and tracked her down because he now has the van!

[@Christenzilla]

@@ryarbrough1195 If I wanted to get away from someone, I wouldn't try to leave in their vehicle. I would find other means of transportation. If you try to take someones vehicle that is only going to attract that person to try to get their vehicle back. He clearly has control issues, trying to take her vehicle and drive away. It's like he wanted her to chase after him. Like he needs to feel important because she's focused on starting her blog. Now she is the crazy abusive one because she tried to get her vehicle back?

[@DJ-nk4dq]

@@ryarbrough1195 yeah right, that’s why he is the person of interest now and the only one who is alive and well

[@manasnowfall]

She may have meant generalised anxiety disorder, which is definitely a mental illness.

[@Outcast331]

Thank you Dr Todd Grande - your thoughts are to the point and crystal clear.

[@erinthesystem9608]

Interrupting a vacation just to rent a storage unit strikes me as being especially creepy.

[@d_walsh]

Just a tad bit...

[@faithworldleader6891]

Makes you think of Joe's set-up on You.

[@rosannatarsiero3670]

A wild theory: he didn’t believe her blog would be successful, she got the idea of disappearing and reappearing at a later time to get famous. They fought over it on 8/12. Next, they split, he flows back and moves her stuff out. But, she talks to him and convince him to fly back. They implement the plan, he rushes home to his parents so he can receive her calls on the landline (from phone booths o assume), and stays mum. The police wants to talk to him and he hires a lawyer because he doesn’t want to commit perjury. She convinces him to run back to her again. In 10 days, he’ll come back with her, saying that he’s found her. She’ll have her fame, nobody could be charged with perjury.

[@hurkamur1]

@@rosannatarsiero3670 Let's hope. What a weird ass situation regardless.

[@bobsagett1474]

@@rosannatarsiero3670 thats extremely disrespectful if it ends up that something bad happened to her, which is most likely. Shouldn't assume she's orchestrating this whole thing when there isn't a shred of evidence that supports that, but it does support a guilty looking murderer of a boyfriend.

[@LaGamyne]

They think they found Gabby’s body , may she rest in peace now and my heart goes to her family 💗🌺 Life short , lets spread love instead of hate.

[@Theodore81547]

Rest in peace? ... "They think they found...". .. We don't know for certain.

[@lilyellis1684]

@@Theodore81547 they found a body in the place they were looking for her, her family identified her, and confirmed it’s her. They’re waiting on a dna analysis but yes it’s 99.999% her.

[@LFROSTVEVO]

@@Theodore81547 they have been found. Gabby family is local to me. They have already been notified by the FBI that it is indeed her, they just cannot confirm without a medical examiner signing off on it.

[@LFROSTVEVO]

@@lilyellis1684 yup.

[@shellyperez6707]

@@lilyellis1684 do you know that f for sure? Or just assuming?

[@LindsayDaly]

As someone who is building their own van right now, I was shocked when I saw their setup. It's 'cute' and looks nice but isn't super functional - they sort of just slapped some wood panels directly onto the metal and called it a day - no insulation despite going to Utah in the summer! Even as just a solo traveller, I said hell no to a ford transit because even for me it was too small! Can't imagine two people in there, at that point all you can fit is a bed and that's it. It didn't seem like they were particularly predisposed to camping either - there was a clip in her youtube video where it's pouring down while she sits in the tent, and it doesn't seem like they bothered to add a rain fly to the tent. So weird that he flew back home mid-trip, but I suppose if it was to 'separate' for a bit after the August 12 incident, thinking they just needed space, but maybe things just got worse when they reunited.

[@SavageMinnow]

The thing you will learn about van life is that what works for you isn't what works for the guy next to you. My ex and I did it, and depending on what your priorities are, just room for a bed is fine for some. Checking out other rigs is fun, but it's a very individual thing. As far as him coming back with lips sealed... She's dead. If she were alive his attorney wouldn't be advising him to stay quiet

[@tamarevans9025]

What type of van are you converting? I would love to see it! What sights are you going to see? I have wanted to do a "van life" trip for quite a few years, so much beauty here in our country!

[@martinsulat697]

You young idiots who shouldn't have been out there - let alone allowed to be a couple...

[@farmcat3198]

@@tamarevans9025 Look up Gary Katz here on KZbin. He has a series of videos on how he converted a work van.

[@ten-dimensional]

looks like they stayed in a tent mostly, so the van was maybe emergency setup for cold and rainy nights. Something not right with Brian.

[@diamondleigh7280]

I wasn't expecting this video to be this on point!!!!! You're Awesome Dr. Grande ❤️❤️❤️

[@carenburger]

Witness saw him try to lock her out of her van in Moab. She tells police she is afraid he will abandon her. He arrives home to FL without out her. Um... I kinda think he abandoned her.

[@micblades1117]

It seems too much time has passed for that to be the case unless she got lost in the woods. She would have likely starved to death by now if she got that last.

[@ladybug947]

So sad I wish to God she had called her parents to help her get back safely without him

[@BIKEMAN21]

probably left her for dead in the desert

[@jannacoyote4246]

Yeah... and, if that's what happened, it was probably in a remote area where she couldn't recharge her phone & could easily get lost.

[@FeR-kt1jt]

@@WiggglezMr then why won’t the incel say that??

[@imanjkenpoaviationexpressions]

Arrest Brian for car theft. It's her car. Bring him in for that with his attorney.

[@amythinks]

What good would that do at all? He doesn't have to talk to the police just because he's been arrested.

[@imanjkenpoaviationexpressions]

@@shanny4306 not sure. But this guy Brian is setting a precedent for would-be wrongdoers who want to get rid of their significant others. Can you imagine if I was your neighbor and just showed up driving your car around town and you were nowhere to be found....mmmm... I could make up anything as long as they can't find you,

[@DJ-nk4dq]

The problem is they were BOTH LIVING in that van which makes it his residence as well as hers. this was brought up during the police encounter

[@amythinks]

@@shanny4306 I don't see how. He has zero obligation to talk to the police if he's arrested for a random crime. And if they trump up charges against him, it makes his defense stronger if he turns out he did it.

[@imanjkenpoaviationexpressions]

@@DJ-nk4dq So does that mean the police can't search my RV without a warrant because it's my residence?

[@g.w.7893]

Brian's little trip home to "help move stuff" is part of this. No doubt he and his parents discussed Gabby and their future. That poor girl is dead and Brain has proven himself to be a coward and low-life. I wouldn't be surprised if Brian killed the two newlyweds too.

[@kenmore01]

Once a murderer, may as well be a serial killer.

[@charlottehanna790]

Maybe she happened upon the other women during the time she was abandoned? If she was abandoned....and, he, the BF, killed all of them.

[@elhale8774]

@Jim The Boomer yes but she's missing

[@reesedaniel5835]

@Jim The Boomer Not necessarily. How do you know she wasn't using self defense against an abusive narcissistic bully?

[@dw3403]

@Jim The Boomer he took her phone which started the fight.

[@pma613]

You are always informative. I enjoy your channel. 🌱💛

[@nickhalka]

Thank you for this. Way more detailed than the news outlets.

[@ronaldmussulman2735]

Oh my God, she's 22 years old. I have a really bad feeling about this. I am so concerned for her family and hope they get some answers asap.

[@jackasshomey]

OMFG HOW WILL A 22 YEAR OLD ADULT EVER SURVIVE ON THEIR OWN 😱 like you don't trust people to rough it anymore... but in this day and age where kids can manage to fuck up kraft dinner in a box i can see where your concerns come from...

[@Dmdirmrjr33]

Like omg

[@loveyoumost3262]

In the body cam footage of their 8/12 domestic dispute she was upset and anxious about spending a night without him despite being in a physical altercation with him. I doubt she would have willingly separated from him

[@theucao5311]

Praying for her and family. For young man, speaks the truth.

[@osmanisildak2448]

Doctor, I automatically like your videos because you never fail to deliver great information.

[@colibri4676]

I heard once : if you want to know how your relationship will be go on a trip on the road “ . This relationship was chaotic and very toxic . I’m sorry that she is missing 😢

[@millerscorner2]

They were in an area where he could just leave her out in the wilderness with no food, water or warm clothing. IF this guy did this horrible thing, he will pay dearly, if not on earth then on the day he stands before the Almighty.

[@jnagarya519]

It can't be proven that there's an "Almighty". But if there it, "It" is a constant no-show.

[@reesedaniel5835]

@@jnagarya519 "And those who walk in pride He is able to put down." Daniel 4:37

[@kschallert3569]

Very good analysis. Thank you for keeping "drama" and "theatrics" out of your report. Great job!

[@charleshouse6787]

Anyone who cares for anybody, would risk their life to see the other safe. Him hiding says it all. My sympathy to Gabby's family. I hope and pray I am wrong

[@theyfearme1379]

Exactly!

[@SoManyRandomRamblings]

Exactly regardless of what everyone else says about him getting a lawyer or not his ACTIONS immediately after whatever happened tells everything.

[@airesfire3432]

Same

[@TheOnlyElle.]

Sadly, I can't see any good outcome to this situation..poor Gabby

[@EndPoliceBrutailty]

3 years later and I still think of this couple and the horrible tragedy that happened to Gabby. Every time I see a van like their's, I instantly think of Gabby. 😞💔 This all could have been prevented if the cops had cared enough to separate the two and ask Brian more questions. But sadly, as usual, the person most upset is blamed for everything so the police might have thought Gabby was the problem. Even she blamed herself. Still breaks my heart in 2024. 💔 I hope this never happens to anyone else. I hope police will get more training to detect the signs of domestic violence, too.

[@sylviadurham4918]

Thank you Dr. Grande - your insight is always appreciated ⭐️⭐️

[@BLARG09]

He lied about having a cell phone. He started to say he didn't have his phone then mid sentence changes and says he doesn't have one. Why lie about this to the police?

[@tiktok11150]

Because mommy was probably paying for it on a family plan. The FBI should get a warrant to retrieve cell phone records from the whole family.

[@shirleysenkler781]

Blarg. No cell phone? Bull, I'm 73 and even I have a cell. Use it for everything!!

[@Ezbpete]

Then he’s shown to pull out a cell phone towards the end of the body cam footage. The police report says that each Gabby and Brian had their cell phones “in case of emergency” while they were separated.

[@BLARG09]

@@shirleysenkler781 Right!! Then he pulled it out and the officers even said that they were sending them separate ways and that they both had phones incase if emergency. Seems odd the officers didn't catch that and wonder WHY lie

[@johnnylego807]

@@shirleysenkler781 he definitely has a Cell phone but to be fair some people avoid them all togethor as they are a privacy breach and can be a total time sink. And if he was committing a crime, he definitely either got rid of the phone or turned it off, probably why police having a difficult time figuring this case out and his previous locations. As they can normally triangulate off cell towers the precise locations of where he has been.

[@maureenmullen1236]

Threatening to leave someone behind/or leaving them behind is a form of abuse. It has been suggested in another case, Natalie Wood, that her husband decided to leave her in the water and not call rescue as a form of punishment.

[@mimi.w667]

Sick asl

[@gorkyd7912]

Depends. Removing yourself from an abusive relationship is often the best solution to it. Telling someone that you are planning to do this is just common sense if that person depends on you for anything and needs to plan for your absence.

[@donnameek6900]

RJ pushed Natalie. Not too far off mark to say Gabby May have been “pushed”. Hit her head on a rock or pushed over a cliff.

[@norway178]

Yes, when the cop asked her why she was crying, she said that he wouldn't let her in her van. Her face, the tears, and her body language showed signs of abuse. The fact that he left her alone, possibly in the wilderness is beyond abuse. She is such a pretty young woman, she could have done much better than this abusive weasel.

[@AliciaRaeTheSicilianWitch]

i recall this

[@mrsmacca126]

Hi, Dr. Grande!! I’m back.I missed you. 🙋‍♀️🌸🥰