I spent $162 on Intermediate Japanese Textbooks so YOU don't have to - Quartet Review (and more)

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ToKini Andy

ToKini Andy

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@ryanisawesome102
@ryanisawesome102 3 жыл бұрын
Japanese is the only thing I get excited to buy a textbook for 😂
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
I hear you! haha
@janissaflorentino4089
@janissaflorentino4089 3 жыл бұрын
same 😂😂
@avatar098
@avatar098 Жыл бұрын
I’m a math nut, so I end up sinking my money into both Japanese books and math books 😭
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
I FORGOT! An important difference between Tobira and Quartet: After finishing Genki II, you would need some kind of bridge before Tobira, because the jump in difficulty is kind of steep. Quartet DOES NOT NEED a bridge. It's a good next step after Genki. ToKini Andy has outgrown Patreon. There is so much premium content now, that we decided to move (there were other reasons too). You can now access our premium course material at: www.tokiniandy.com/
@Tsubasa83
@Tsubasa83 3 жыл бұрын
My personal option is that Quartet is published by the same publisher, so to some certain extent they want people to continue to buy their books I guess. =p For Tobira's 内容質問, I guess it is meant for those people who are attempting GCE O Levels or A Levels as they need to be able to write the answers for the 読み物. Also, some sections like 「_______を修飾するのはどこからどこまでですか」helps students to be able to read the JLPT N2 and N1 passages in a more effective way. For the 例文 for the grammar, it comes along with the 教師指導書. It's up to the teachers to give it to their students. After this book, students are expected to move on to JLPT N2. Thus, I think having no English translations is to prepare students for what's coming. =) For personal use, I compiled my own vocabulary list for Tobira. Tobira would require a teacher to maximise it's potential.
@ohadhefets9973
@ohadhefets9973 3 жыл бұрын
I heard Tobira is rather hard as well after Genki, but I wonder if I'd need a book to bridge the gap? Or maybe just immersion?
@jahayrac8636
@jahayrac8636 3 жыл бұрын
Interestingly enough, as soon as you finished describing Quartet and it's layout, I already knew you were going with it. It sounds like Genki 3 and 4 to me lol I was thinking there's no way he's gonna touch the other two after teaching Genki. Even I didn't want the other two after that initial description. To be fair my teacher used the Integrated Approach to Intermediate Japanese ("The Blue Book" lol) after going through Genki 1 & 2. I appreciated some of the additions like reading in the beginning (for encouragement) as opposed to at the end of the book but the formatting and layout drove me nuts. The grammar points I couldn't understand without referring to my Dictionary of Japanese Grammar or the internet. Additionally, some of the grammar points were already discussed in Genki 2 so we had to hop around a bit. My 先生 supplemented the course with more interesting activities thankfully but I disliked that book so much. It was such a chore that I sadly don't remember much of what I learned that year. I yearned for my Genki days. Maybe I can recommend Quartet to my professor for future students. Meanwhile as I miss studying grammar (lol sorry I actually enjoy it when it's well done/ explained - hence my subscription 😁) you can count me in for that Quartet series. Thanks Andy!
@Tsubasa83
@Tsubasa83 3 жыл бұрын
@@ohadhefets9973 From my professional pt of view, just immersion with the help of an experienced teacher.
@annwang5530
@annwang5530 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful. You forgot to mention that quartet vol 1 is meant for jlptn3 and vol 2 for jlptn2 (according to japan times web). I'm preparing for N4 this July with genki 2
@ThePinwheel
@ThePinwheel 3 жыл бұрын
I'm still working my way through the tail end of Genki 1, but your stuff is legit so good that when friends ask me about what materials I'm using for Japanese, I NEVER mention Genki without also mentioning your videos. This video alone is enough to tell me which of the textbooks I'm going to use once I get past Genki 2. I seriously hope your channel explodes in popularity in the coming years, it's so high quality.
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you @Pinwheel! I'm happy to hear that you've found the content here helpful enough to share! =)
@samadmohamad8951
@samadmohamad8951 17 күн бұрын
I wonder what's your Japanese level is now after 3 years ?
@laachax9279
@laachax9279 3 жыл бұрын
Making me want to pick up quartet before I even finish genki 1
@candychan3106
@candychan3106 3 жыл бұрын
Tobira is a very good textbook. I like the readings, almost all of the readings are interesting and you will learn something about the Japanese culture. For Tobira, if you know well all the basic verb and adjective conjugations (present plain, past plain both positive and negative), you should be able to do Tobira. IMO, for intermediate Japanese, you need to know these verb forms inside and out (present, past, and both positive, negative): dictionary form (会う, 聞く、食べる for example), て form, た form, ない form, as they are important for all the conjuctions and suffixes attaching to the verbs and adjectives and if you know them inside and out, then Tobira is not hard even after Genki II. The grammar points are very well explained (most of them have a detailed English explanation) with sentence examples. One major complaint about the grammar is that they are scattered, meaning they don't group it like the JLPT books where you learn similar grammar points together in the same chapter. In my opinion, you learn the grammar more efficiently if it is more "organized". I am Chinese, so Kanji is not a concern for me, I just learn as I go. I finished Tobira about 3 months ago and I am currently using 2 JLPT textbooks 日本語総まとめN3 (Nihongo Soumatome) and 新完全マスターN3 (Shinkanzen Master). Tobira covers pretty much all N3 materials (I would say 80%), so if you finish Tobira, you should be able to do N3. 日本語総まとめN3 (Nihongo Soumatome) is mostly review for me if you finish Tobira and it is very good to solidify what you learned in Tobira. 新完全マスターN3 (Shinkanzen Master) is a very good textbook but it is much more involved and more comprehensive and requires more work. If you can pass N3, then you should be able to visit Japan and can do daily Japanese conversation without much of a problem. I think it is possible to self study using Tobira but as it is better to hire a Japanese teacher.
@takezo2325
@takezo2325 2 жыл бұрын
面白いコメント。ありがとう!
@krispy3629
@krispy3629 3 жыл бұрын
Cant wait to finish Genki so i can join you guys in Quartet! 🙌
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see you there!!!
@ニックだよ
@ニックだよ 3 жыл бұрын
I bought An Integrated Approach way back, but will definitely be picking up the Quartet books so I can follow along with your streams. Still got a ways to go with Genki first, but I'll be there when I'm all caught up!
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
I look forward to seeing you there! Good luck! ☺️
@yashdsouza3468
@yashdsouza3468 3 жыл бұрын
Andy san’s videos make me want to go from N4-N1 in 6 months🤣
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
8 hours of Japanese per day, here Yash comes!
@RusticRonnie
@RusticRonnie 3 жыл бұрын
@@ToKiniAndy I think we call that full time.
@Cimpy101
@Cimpy101 3 жыл бұрын
Andy, I'm impressed with how your compositions and editing continue to improve over time. It can be overwhelming and difficult to know what resources to commit to, so this is an interesting topic. Love it!
@Cimpy101
@Cimpy101 3 жыл бұрын
Also "I made it to the end!" :D
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Cimpy! Still a long way to go, but it is neat to see the progress when I go back and look at my old content. But you know that! You've been here since almost the beginning! =)
@sockonyoutube
@sockonyoutube 3 жыл бұрын
So excited to hear you’ll be doing an intermediate course!
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
I'm excited to start!
@LSKk314
@LSKk314 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of buying Tobira, but this is definitely making me reconsider. Either way, I'll be there! Thank you for your hard work making japanese easier to learn for us!
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! I hope that I can continue to do some!
@linguaste
@linguaste 3 жыл бұрын
Just finished Genki 2 this weekend, and was about to jump into Integrated Japanese. However I think I need to investigate Quartet, which I had never heard of before. Thanks for your very informative review.
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. Thank you for watching! =)
@Coyoteclaw11
@Coyoteclaw11 3 жыл бұрын
I still have to start and finish Genki II, but I hope to be there! It's pretty nice to hear there's a newer textbook that fixes the problem so many people mention about the difficulty jump between Genki and Tobira. I'm excited to check it out ^^
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
I wish you luck on your Genki II journey!
@GenkimonGX
@GenkimonGX 3 жыл бұрын
I'll be there! I was considering buying Tobira this week, so this came at just the right time!
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I finally got it out!!
@echelonangel98
@echelonangel98 3 жыл бұрын
...that moment when I've spent money on Tobira and Intermediate Japanese already 😅😅😅 I will totally be there!!!
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
Ouch! Sorry I didn't release it earlier!
@itsabah3819
@itsabah3819 3 жыл бұрын
uuuuuughhhh ill be there...when i finish lesson 3 from genki that is
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
I believe in you!
@acojo8205
@acojo8205 3 жыл бұрын
YES LADS!!!!!! Your videos are so easy to follow and they’re the main reason I’ve progressed as much as I have with Genki. It’s honestly made my day, knowing that you’re continuing to intermediate level🙌🙌 Onwards and upwards!
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
I'm happy to hear that! Thank you! Keep it up!
@anti-baka
@anti-baka 2 жыл бұрын
So far you're the only one that's reviewed Quartet. Thanks to ur video I know to get the Quartet books after Genki. Keep up the awesome work!
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to hear that you found it helpful in making your decision. =) Thank you for watching.
@Sara-ts5wo
@Sara-ts5wo 3 жыл бұрын
Ouch, I was hoping you'd use Tobira! I'm almost done with Genki 2, and your lessons have been really helpful! Thank you :)
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
I'm happy to hear it! Thanks for following along! ☺️
@7dee3
@7dee3 3 жыл бұрын
Me too! Especially because it doesn't have an answer key! Had never heard of Quartet until the video! I'll still follow along though and try to find where/if the same grammar points are mentioned in Tobira.
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
@@7dee3 a lot of the points are definitely shared, so this is certainly a possibility. ☺️
@thecurriest
@thecurriest 3 жыл бұрын
Having used both Integrated Approach and Tobira, this explains a lot about the shortcomings of those books! I've noticed some classes shifting to Quartet so I may give it a try.
@Gitaikou
@Gitaikou 3 жыл бұрын
Argument for quarter sounds quite compelling hmm :thinking emoji:
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
They are the better books! But if you already have Tobira...
@Sara-ts5wo
@Sara-ts5wo 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I already got Tobira so TT
@shakenbacon-vm4eu
@shakenbacon-vm4eu 3 ай бұрын
I made it to the end! Now I’m off to your genki 15 lesson, hopefully one day I’ll be at quartet!
@JKVeganAbroad
@JKVeganAbroad 3 жыл бұрын
I made it to the end, woo! I bought the Quartet textbooks using the affiliate link to the Japanese store; but for some reason, the Quartet II Workbook didn't appear in the link. I modified the webpage URL of Workbook II to include your affiliate link during my purchase, so hopefully you'll get some commission on that one too!
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!! I hope that you find them and the new series helpful!!! ☺️
@capricapaprica
@capricapaprica 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll be there, looking forward to it! I actually have all three of the series reviewed in this video, and also prefer Quartet for the reasons that you have outlined.
@emikopowell7107
@emikopowell7107 3 жыл бұрын
I’m finishing the semester on ch 23 at school. I will definitely be following your videos to continue with my studies thank you 😊
@TheFimpish
@TheFimpish 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for this video. I had looked into intermediate textbooks a lot a few weeks ago and Quartet kept coming up in discussions. But the common idea was "It looks good, but it is so new that nobody has really used it and nobody wants to be the guinea pig so just get Tobira or something people can vouch for." I'll definitely be joining you on these! But I may be several months late, haha. Still working my way through Genki (along with WaniKani and Tango N5). Loving the NO CHAT lessons and Patreon resources.
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
Take your time and keep it up! I'm happy to hear that everything has been helpful!
@aliciaroberts6469
@aliciaroberts6469 Жыл бұрын
ow you really sold the quartet books for me! it seems that the things you appreciated the most were the things i look for in a language textbook
@axelsantistevan2294
@axelsantistevan2294 Жыл бұрын
Made it to the end, thank you so much for all the Genki and Quartet videos! Preparing for the JLPT in December, moving from Genki 2 soon so this so helpful to see where to go after Genki and will go Quartet for sure, thank you!
@AsieClassie
@AsieClassie 3 жыл бұрын
wow this is probably the best books review video I've encountered after I watched tons of videos of Japanese and korean books..thank you so much!
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@LongNguyen-ou7br
@LongNguyen-ou7br 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll be there! I have gotten through half of genki 2 thanks to you!
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
That's awesome!! Thank you, and I'll see you there!
@SPSibes
@SPSibes 3 жыл бұрын
Ughhh you saved me!! I've been researching intermediate books because I plan on buying one this year. I've almost finished genki 1 and will start on genki 2 in-between my university classes! I'm definitely getting Quartet I have followed your videos through genki 1 and they helped so much! I am planning on continuing to do so. Hopefully I'll be starting on these early next year. I have just done a 7 month slog though genki 1 and am almost at goal point 1! Thank you! Awesome video!
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
I'm happy to hear that you found the video helpful! Keep it up, and you'll make it! =)
@thomalemann1148
@thomalemann1148 Жыл бұрын
I've been using the quartet books and they're really great! I strongly recommend them to anyone looking to move into the N3 territory and upwards
@Wazhai
@Wazhai 3 жыл бұрын
Insightful comparison and great video production quality! I won't be there live because I've yet to do Genki 2, but I'm definitely looking forward to watching the rest of your lesson VODs for beginner and upcoming intermediate levels.
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Wazhai! It's good to see you!
@markdelles5745
@markdelles5745 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so old I used the "Learn Japanese" books (probably before you were born, U of Maryland), and I've started to get into it again in anticipation of one last trip to Japan. An Integrated Approach is doable, but I find it very boring, so I will probably try Quartet once I get through the Moe Tango N4 deck. Tobira is out because of the small print. Thank you for doing this, it is very helpful.
@Boredest1
@Boredest1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this, I'll be sure to join whenever I can finish my way through Genki!
@ramadem
@ramadem 3 жыл бұрын
I've started watching you're videos about a month ago. They are a huge help and I hope that I can catch up before you start making the intermediate streams
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
I wish you luck! I'm happy to hear that the videos are helping! =)
@chandradickinson3731
@chandradickinson3731 2 жыл бұрын
I've been working through genki 1 and 2 but I'm so bummed my school is using tobira so your quartet videos won't be too helpful 😂😭 I'll still be coming to you for review though! ありがとうございました!
@waynelee891
@waynelee891 3 жыл бұрын
i like quartet. i used it with my italki tutors which helped a lot. i also liked the writing section for which i got feedback from my tutors on my writing.
@KyushuTrail
@KyushuTrail 3 жыл бұрын
Nice. Made it to the end and all that. I’m considering buying the textbook and following along in April. My Japanese needs brushing up!
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
😮😮😮 I feel like YOU could teach us all a bit! Haha
@stabarke
@stabarke 3 жыл бұрын
I found Tobira for ¥1200 at Book Off so I bought that 🙈 Was too good a deal to pass up. The jump from Genki to Tobira wasn’t so bad IMO, but I did a lot of reading outside of Genki (games, manga, etc). If you aren’t used to reading, it could be intimidating.
@TheOriginalSentack
@TheOriginalSentack 3 жыл бұрын
I made it to the end! Thanks for doing all the heard work of reviewing all these books and giving your opinion. I had heard that quartet was the next logical move after Genki so I’m glad to hear it’s holding out as promised. Looking forward to the new videos in April. Good luck!
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I too am looking forward to it!
@LAMarshall
@LAMarshall 3 жыл бұрын
One interesting positive about the Integrated Approach book is that all the new vocabulary is given with its pitch accent indicated! I've never seen any other textbook do this, so it's certainly an interesting plus if you want to work on your pronunciation! Also, on the grammar and spelling mistakes: the Genki books had the exact same problem, which makes sense since they are all made by the same company (The Japan Times). :/
@imgelfand2327
@imgelfand2327 2 жыл бұрын
Iam the exact opposite of the guy. I only liked an integrated approach (though I have the revised edition). I do immersion learning so I hate Genki and would rather go through Tae Kim and avoid excercises since they don't actually help language acquisition. I just cared for the dialogues and shadowing. Then again, this guy is a classroom teacher so I think he does not approve AJATT approach. But hey I ignored the guy's advice and am reading Natsume Soseki in 6 months of immersion, so I think the guy in the video is just salty. Took him a year to get through Genki I. Like bro, that's a snail's pace.
@Chuulip
@Chuulip 3 жыл бұрын
I already worked through 2 other N3 level books and will next work on Quartet! I didn't even know about the existence of this book! I'll be following your stream and hopefully pass the JLPT N3 in July!
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
I believe in you! And I hope that the content here can help!
@DominikDelRey
@DominikDelRey 3 жыл бұрын
aaaaa im so excited!!! i had already bought the quartet books a couple of weeks ago and hoped youd continue with them. thanks a lot!
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
Happy to hear it!! I can't wait to get started. ☺️
@studyberry9029
@studyberry9029 3 жыл бұрын
Made it to the end - woohoo!😂 Why am I so excited for this? I haven't even finished Genki 1 yet
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I hope it can give you some motivation to keep going! =)
@NebelungFlower
@NebelungFlower 3 жыл бұрын
Finally someone reviewed Quartet! Thank you for this!
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! I hope you find it useful! ☺️
@NebelungFlower
@NebelungFlower 3 жыл бұрын
@@ToKiniAndy i do, I was already thinking about buying quartet after im done with Genki II, and this solidified my decision. Thanks again!
@loganhollingsworth1675
@loganhollingsworth1675 9 ай бұрын
Made it to the end🎉 ill be buying the quartet books soon.
@anthonyr453
@anthonyr453 3 ай бұрын
I got jump scared at 12:42 while drinking coffee. Thankfully I didn't spill but a ToKini Andy video turning into a horror film is the last thing I expected.
@midorisakura1678
@midorisakura1678 3 жыл бұрын
Yay! This is exciting! I’m picking my Japanese study up again- Your Genki 1 videos were so helpful and am about to start genki 2 now. Will be excited to watch these intermediate videos! Subscribing now ✨🙌🏻🎉
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! And thank you for watching!
@vaemanas
@vaemanas 3 жыл бұрын
I know it already came out but I'm super stoked about this and I'll be there.
@madebyarmadillo
@madebyarmadillo Жыл бұрын
Made it to the end! I have to agree, Tobira's structure is... super bizarre. I worked through chapters 1-4 this summer with my tutor, and she made it a LOT more interesting and effective. I think if you are learning solo, Tobira is likely not the best option.
@deadsally89
@deadsally89 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve made it to the end :D Thanks for the great video, I’m super happy to know you’re going to continue the videos after Genki II. Count me in! PS: The illustration clips completely disturbed me :p
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
Haha Sorry for disturbing you. I tried to throw in a little flare to keep viewers engaged. It was a long video so didn't want it to get too long. Thank you for watching, and see you there!
@emanuelepolonia2295
@emanuelepolonia2295 3 жыл бұрын
I'll be there! I am so thankful for you and for what you do for us.
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'll see you there!
@berayyt8386
@berayyt8386 3 жыл бұрын
Aww shucks! Tobira just came days ago assuming this’ll be what you will be teaching us since it is the popular choice for intermediate japanese 😅.
@7dee3
@7dee3 3 жыл бұрын
Don't worry I think a few of us (myself included) have Tobira. I only just got mine recently too and I sure as hell don't need another Japanese textbook in my life - it's already at max capacity! We'll just have check where the grammar points from Quartet are mentioned in Tobira and study that way!
@marcia.mizuno
@marcia.mizuno 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll be there! Can’t wait to learn more! 😍😍
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
See you there! ☺️
@Nyukins
@Nyukins 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Andy, Feel free to take a longer break after Genki 2.... I have fallen so far behind due to work pressures but I love joining the live streams and want to catch up!!! I will do my best to catch up in time!
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Nyukins! There is a good chance we may push the start back to May 2nd, so that may give you some time. ☺️
@Nyukins
@Nyukins 3 жыл бұрын
@@ToKiniAndy That would help 😅 I will keep doing my best to catch up either way!! Thanks 😁
@KeiraBts
@KeiraBts 3 жыл бұрын
I'll be there for sure! Your channel has helped me a LOT
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
I'm happy to hear that! Thank you!
@gregsvoice5628
@gregsvoice5628 3 жыл бұрын
I've only just finished Genki chapter 3 so I have a way to go before I get to this stage but I had been wondering what would be the next best step as there isn't a perfect option. Looks like Quartet will be the one I get as your grammar videos are so useful! Though seeing as Approach to Intermediate Japanese is so old and we have seen Genki 3rd edition last year, you'd hope a newer more up-to-date version would be released for that as well.
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
I believe that Quartet IS their new "Integrated Approach", as both books are by the same publisher. =)
@gregsvoice5628
@gregsvoice5628 3 жыл бұрын
@@ToKiniAndy Ah that does make a lot of sense as to why there is no gap between Genki and those books then!
@Rinachika
@Rinachika 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve an integrated approach to intermediate Japanese and I LOVE it🥲 but after this video I wanna buy quartet...
@Come2JapanDan
@Come2JapanDan 3 жыл бұрын
I made it to the end.....the role-playing pop up cracked me up!
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
Hahah thanks man! I'm glad you caught it. ☺️
@Triplays-io4jt
@Triplays-io4jt 3 жыл бұрын
ill be there! I made it to the end! cant wait
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
Yay! Thank you!
@ShinyChiaki
@ShinyChiaki 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I found this video before I bought any of the books, thank you.
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad it was helpful! Thank you for watching!
@sebastianhussain4537
@sebastianhussain4537 3 жыл бұрын
I will be following your series when you start in April. Have a copy of the Tobira kanji book and textbook book and will be getting Quartet in a month when calculus isn’t kicking my butt. I will say I have not had a Japanese class in over a year and half and tried to jump into Tobira right after self studying the second half of Genki 2. That was six months ago and I’m now past chapter 1 and 2. The gap is real steep if you tried to learn on your own. I managed by supplementing with a N3 kanji book. Even so I feel like quartet will be a bit less mentally draining to learn from and I like the idea that it can be used effectively with a language partner or tutor. I have been waiting for an excuse to practice speaking with a tutor about something that is not boring, textbooky or another self introduction. Good luck everyone.
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
I hope that you can find it helpful! =)
@sebastianhussain4537
@sebastianhussain4537 3 жыл бұрын
Update still studying with your series. A few lessons behind but I love the way you teach it gives the grammar time cement in my brain. Looking forward to catching up with the live group in a month and readying for this years JLPT N3. Thank you.
@UltimaFantasy
@UltimaFantasy 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I’ve been wondering the Intermediate books that you recommend 😁
@Matandfun
@Matandfun 3 жыл бұрын
I'm just starting with genki 1 but hope to be learning in the quartet in the near future
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
The beauty of KZbin, is that the videos will still be here when you catch up! =)
@fujix_pal
@fujix_pal 3 жыл бұрын
I had just given JLPT N5 using your genki 1 tutorial and self study.. now ill move to genki 2. Thank you!!
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations! Thank you for watching!
@SilverPanos
@SilverPanos 3 жыл бұрын
I think after they publish Begginer's Tobira part 2 on July 2022, they are going to renew the original Tobira for 2023. Unfortunately, I need to buy one of these soon, so I'll probabably go for Tobira as is is right now.
@tenshinronin5480
@tenshinronin5480 3 жыл бұрын
... Well that was unexpected!! I have a tobira textbook but I’ll be there if I somehow get my hands on a quartet pdf 😆
@Himilika
@Himilika 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video, even if it was a bit biased :D. Tobira not only consists of 3 books, but also has a lot of free stuff online, besides those outdated videos (additional practice sheets, anki decks and so on). Also, you can find the translation for all readings, dialogues and grammar sentences in Teacher's Guide (to be fair, you have to buy it separately). As for Quartet (I've bought it after you mentioned it for the first time :)), it looks promising and I especially enjoy the grammar and vocabulary sections. But the speaking part seems a bit useless (for me there is too much of it). Still, I'm looking forward to our intermediate journey. I'm made it to the end ;).
@Himilika
@Himilika 3 жыл бұрын
Also, I've forgotten to mention that there are no answers in Quartet. You can ask the publisher for them, but they send them only to some people.
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to hear about the translations in the teachers book. Thank you for the comment. Comments like these help people see other perspectives, and give them a better idea of which book they may like. =)
@17lordfire
@17lordfire 3 жыл бұрын
First and I’ll definitely be there!!
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
Winner winner!
@BlendedBurgerSoup
@BlendedBurgerSoup 2 жыл бұрын
Just about to finish Genki 1 and wanted to know what I'll be striving for after Genki 2, this video definitely made it easy to choose which I'm getting. An Integrated Approach to Intermediate Janpanese of course... unless?
@kimberleyg5642
@kimberleyg5642 3 жыл бұрын
I made it to the end! Haha :D Can't wait for Quartet!
@stephenperry67
@stephenperry67 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Do you know if there's an answer key for Quartet 1 yet? When I used the GENKI textbooks the answer key was very helpful. Also, what do you think about Tobira Beginning Japanese Volume 2? One of the classes I'm planning to take in the spring uses Quartet 1 and the other uses the Tobira series.
@chillicatz
@chillicatz 3 жыл бұрын
I made it to the end and I will be there! (once I catch up with Genki.)
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
Woohoo! See you there!
@user-hs8uw4hn3n
@user-hs8uw4hn3n 3 жыл бұрын
I made it to the end! Love your videos:)
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@afarchangel
@afarchangel 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for going through each. I had no idea about the pros and cons of either, but I'll order the Quartet in the next few days. Doubt I'll catch up to you guys and finish Genki2 before mid April, but I'll (hopefully) be right behind you! One quick question: do you mind listing each one of the Quartets you'll be using individually, so I make sure I get them all (even the optional workbooks); I see the first one, the workbook for it, and the second, but not the workbook for the second. The affiliate link also just goes to the search result page on the JP Amazon, just wanted to make sure it still gives you credit if I use that as well.
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! We will be using Quartet I and Quartet II. The workbooks for each are optional, as you put it, though there aren't really any exercises in the textbook, so having them will be helpful I think. Workbooks would be Quartet I and Quartet II workbooks. =) With the Amazon links, I believe that anything you buy during the same session after clicking on an affiliate link counts, so it doesn't necessarily matter if it's on the search page. =)
@sinkiu
@sinkiu 3 жыл бұрын
so exciting! Ive been following you towards the end of Genki I book and into Genki Ii. Your videos are so helpful and not boring at all! Looking forward to following with you onto the Quartet textbook as this will be supplementary of the classes Im currently taking. I do want to ask though, how do you suggest we can remember the grammar points? I learned them, understand them, but tends to forget about them if I dont use them enough. Thanks
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
Using them, or encountering them in reading and watching content is the best bet. Creating an anki deck with a sentence using each grammar point, and a short explanation of the grammar point on the back of the card can also be helpful. =)
@linux990
@linux990 2 жыл бұрын
I made it to the end Andy!!!
@felipefs106
@felipefs106 3 жыл бұрын
I *hope* to be there. If I finish Genki 2 in time :)
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
I wish you luck!
@aLaMode298
@aLaMode298 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if The Japan Times will make a two-part advanced grammar textbook series that follows after Quartet just for completion sake? Though I have read that Quartet II covers some N1 grammar so maybe an advance grammar book is unnecessary. You're the first person I've seen to really discuss and review Quartet; it doesn't seem to have set the Japanese language learning community on fire like Genki or Minna no Nihongo has so I'm excited for your series!
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
There actually already IS an advanced grammar book from them. But it's mediocre. After N2, you're pretty much on your own when it comes to studying. LOTS of reading is your best bet honestly.
@misspugs1
@misspugs1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the content.
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
And thank YOU for watching. =)
@arrayindexoutofboundsexcep1088
@arrayindexoutofboundsexcep1088 Жыл бұрын
I really liked the Minna no nihongo books (the 2nd edition)! But after MNN II there is just the first edition available, which is pretty bad in my opinion! Which of these series would you recommend in my case?
@arasyyoram
@arasyyoram 5 ай бұрын
so what did you choose then?
@mynameisnabil
@mynameisnabil 3 жыл бұрын
I'll be there! When will you start?
@MurasakiOkamiVtuber
@MurasakiOkamiVtuber Ай бұрын
Does Quartet have an integrated book reading series (like the Genki books had the Genki Readers series. That series really helped me with my grammar and vocab more than the textbooks alone).
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy Ай бұрын
Unfortunately, no not yet. I do hope they make something like that!
@melanietaylor5453
@melanietaylor5453 3 жыл бұрын
I'll try to be there... hopefully in time since i only just started Genki
@wannaknit
@wannaknit 3 жыл бұрын
I'll be there! and also I made it to the end!
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you wannaknit! =)
@_Username__
@_Username__ 2 жыл бұрын
thank you man, you saved me
@Ozubura
@Ozubura 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the Integrated Approach was very random with its grammar points. You’d think they’d break off into sections that covered similar to the grammar dictionaries? Quartet seems to Integrated Approach like Genki 2nd Ed is to Genki 1st Ed. What would you say about 速読?
@jorrelljorrell
@jorrelljorrell 3 жыл бұрын
Are you going to eventually cover Quartet 1 & 2 like you did Genki 1 & 2? I’m still on Genki 1! Studying part time between work so each lesson is taking about a month to cover, I’ll get to Quartet eventually, I watch the streams even though I’m still not falling further behind. Signed up to Wanikani after watching the streams and love it, so much better than RTK. If I’m never going to live in Japan but want to be able to hold a conversation and maybe understand some overheard Japanese and read signs etc, how proficient do you think I’d need to be? When I last visited I only knew touristy set phrases so I’m already far more confident than I was thanks to your channel!
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
I do plan on it! I will be beginning sometime in May. Most likely mid-May. The more you know, the better! But if you finish both Genki books and start moving on to Quartet, and find you can handle the listening portions, you should do fine. =)
@tosspots
@tosspots 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Andy, love your videos. Just a quick question if I may? I have got the first edition (July 2019) of Quartet and the supplement book is attached inside the back of my Quartet book, unlike in your video where your supplement is unattached. Did you physically remove yours or was it already separated already? I wouldnt want to forcibly remove mine if it wasnt supposed to be removed. Thank you. Paul.
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Paul. It has a few dabs of glue holding it in, and it may slightly tear the supplemental book itself (just the cover a little), but it is meant to be removed. 👍
@tosspots
@tosspots 3 жыл бұрын
@@ToKiniAndy Thank you so much for the swift reply Andy :)
@faeriru
@faeriru 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the recommendation! I'd like to ask for quartet, abt how many kanji do I need to know for understanding the textbook?
@JohannesC-c8e
@JohannesC-c8e 3 жыл бұрын
Did anyone finish JFZ 5! and moved on to Quartet? Is it to big of a Jump?:)
@johnchong1601
@johnchong1601 2 жыл бұрын
Me too, was wandering is it a good choice to move from JFZ 5 to Quartet
@doaessayed7974
@doaessayed7974 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Andy! Did you have a chance to see the Marugoto books for B1 (1 and 2) level? They call them intermediate Japanese as well. The books are very colourful and are a bit expensive. I am still at a beginner level but I am looking ahead and I love colourful books. Are they worth it? ,,, Thanks
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, I've never seen the Marugoto books. I've been hearing a lot about them though, so I may need to look at them some day.
@phen-themoogle7651
@phen-themoogle7651 3 жыл бұрын
Quartet is 140 dollars on Amazon now. When I was buying Japanese books back 20 years ago they were like 5-20 dollars. I get Quartet is like a series but I was able to get all N2 books for under 100 dollars even several years ago.
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
I strongly suggest ordering off the Japanese Amazon. The American version gets weird price hikes sometimes.
@JoshuaWoehlkeMkII
@JoshuaWoehlkeMkII Жыл бұрын
I'll be there!
@Coicoy
@Coicoy 3 жыл бұрын
What do you think of みんなの日本語 中級? I'm thinking about getting that one and then Tobira or, maybe now that you recommend it, Quartet
@Tsubasa83
@Tsubasa83 3 жыл бұрын
Not good. Don't buy it. - 日本語の先生より。=p
@7dee3
@7dee3 3 жыл бұрын
I also agree, don't buy it. That series is really dry in my opinion and works best in a class setting not for self study. If you go from using the friendly Genki to that, you'll have a boredom shock!
@Coicoy
@Coicoy 3 жыл бұрын
I'm asking this after having used Genki 1 and starting Genki 2 and realizing that Genki's grammar instruction and lesson format has some of the issues that An Integrated Approach... has. I switched to MnN a month ago and realized that I appreciated its presentation of Japanese structure (while Genki is of course visually pleasing and has some good audio content though it is recorded in terrible fashion).
@Tsubasa83
@Tsubasa83 3 жыл бұрын
@@Coicoy if you are on Minna no Nihongo now, finish it then switch to Tobira or Quartet
@Mariam.4445
@Mariam.4445 3 жыл бұрын
I want to learn Japanese, but the jlpt exams are not available in my country, the textbooks and all too, so i am struggling to find pdfs and the way to learn I am kinda thinking of this order : 1/ Japanese from zero(the 4 books, because i want to build the base) 2/ Genki level 1 and 2. 3/ minna no nihongo level 1 and 2. 4/ and then i want to start reading as if i am going to take the jlpt, but only studying for myself, i am considering TRY! and other series i don't know their names, do you have any advice for me? Should i add Quartet before step 4?.
@trekbeyblade
@trekbeyblade 3 жыл бұрын
I already have tobira and already a few chapters in... Should I grab quartet? Love the videos!
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily. Plenty of points in Quartet correspond to Tobira, so there's no reason the new series can't still be helpful to you.
@trekbeyblade
@trekbeyblade 3 жыл бұрын
@@ToKiniAndy I see! Thank you for the response! シリーズをぜひ見たい!
@yousifabdulhussein
@yousifabdulhussein 3 жыл бұрын
I’m starting on your Genki 1 series! I’ll arrive at it probably a year late!
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 3 жыл бұрын
The beauty of KZbin! =)
@casdata
@casdata 3 жыл бұрын
I'll be there once I finish Genki II
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