I used to worry about making my characters perfect until I started to see things written by native Japanese.
@serenityssolace3 ай бұрын
Same 😂
@shenglongisback46883 ай бұрын
After living there I agree, It's like writing in english everybody don't write it the same.😂
@sparkymularkey69703 ай бұрын
Exactly! I started going on Pixiv and reading fan comics and looking at the handwritten text. It was so eye-opening!
@guyloser23 ай бұрын
i saw a vtuber with bad handwriting I struggled reading it lol
@WaterYaDune3 ай бұрын
I have terrible English handwriting, might as well double down and be awful in Japanese too
@spacehoppity31273 ай бұрын
Lessons with an actual Japanese native with full subtitles in both English and Japanese is incredible! Keep it up!
@10second_rice_23 ай бұрын
As a native Japanese, now I can confirm that he can write Hiragana way better than me
@Skiddla2 ай бұрын
you know the difference between then and than, you already beat 50% of americans
@socalbarbie10402 ай бұрын
@@SkiddlaDude hush, weeb.
@jhowgx29 күн бұрын
@@Skiddla Jesus
@shi_no_kurai_kage3 ай бұрын
My い describes my personality very angular and rebellious and angry
@jbracara3 ай бұрын
bro
@UguuUng2 ай бұрын
Why'd you gotta make me laugh in the morning man.
@takegasuki2 ай бұрын
I did not expect to have all my hiragana destroyed by an extremely nice Japanese lady today... But I'm already seeing a big improvement in my handwriting, so thank you! I'd love to see a similar video for katakana. Great job, guys 😊
@drakebrasfield10443 ай бұрын
You just gotta remember this is all originally written for Paint Brushes. So imagine you pen as a paint brush and it helps
@timecarpet3 ай бұрын
Does it?
@Zorgot.3 ай бұрын
@@timecarpet yeah
@timecarpet3 ай бұрын
@Zorgot. Well it does explain why stroke order is so important
@DinnerForkTongue2 ай бұрын
@@timecarpet It very much does. Look at a calligrapher writing with a brush pen and you'll see the logic behind stroke order and why some stop while others flick or taper. It's interesting if you like the writing system.
@kevinbla2 ай бұрын
Exactly. And if you add that these come from simplified cursive kanji, you will start to see how each stroke flows into the next. The movement is somewhat continuous you are just lifting the brush at certain points. Honestly, I think it would be helpful to study Shoudo to really get good at writing Hiragana.
@nmitsthefish3 ай бұрын
I've been learning Japanese for just over a year now, and had no idea how necessary this video was for me. Way better than those videos that draw each kana one after another. This is how you fix mistakes
@Andy_0L3 ай бұрын
True
@elmomierz4 ай бұрын
Holy thumbnail
@eden22.73 ай бұрын
Obsessed with thumbnail and title
@MichaelJacksonJr3 ай бұрын
😂
@Andy_0L3 ай бұрын
Accurate
@RT-qd8yl3 ай бұрын
Did anyone else glance at it and think she was shooting two french breads out of her eyes
@salsuh3 ай бұрын
yessir
@NikkiDimesYT3 ай бұрын
Hiragana lesson and listening practice in one video? Let's goooo
@ToKiniAndy3 ай бұрын
一石二鳥!
@NikkiDimesYT3 ай бұрын
@@ToKiniAndy And learning a new idiom?!?
@reedwalker82303 ай бұрын
@@NikkiDimesYT killing three birds with one stone!
@PeterLiuIsBeast3 ай бұрын
Its easy to remember the stroke order for や when you realized that its a simplified cursive version of 也 (not a 常用 but is a component of characters like 地 and 池)
@giuseppeagresta14253 ай бұрын
Thank you, it's quite useful
@dvp39Ай бұрын
Ah, but I don't know Chinese.
@flameplxyss989Ай бұрын
@@dvp39u mean kanji?
@srslysic3 ай бұрын
I think the different ways how each of you hold/grip the pen really makes a difference as well. A very insightful and interesting video overall. Thank you both!
@SpeedyGwen2 ай бұрын
so, maybe me trying to write with my left hand is why all my characters look super weird and funky ?
@UlaTheyabАй бұрын
Yes ,you’re right. But still the way of using the pen is very different from one to another and it’s sometimes hard to change the way of writing.
@MidosujiSen3 ай бұрын
54:00 Yuki must have a super artistic mind if she was able to immediately see a guy bowling in that ふ haha
@ToKiniAndy3 ай бұрын
This was apparently a meme here in Japan back when she was in high school. 😆
@jhowgx29 күн бұрын
That's the way I learned the mnemomic haha
@shikaman3 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot this was really helpful ! Looking forward to a Katakana version of this video ! Also, in addition, i'd love to see Yuki's "speedy" "unfocused" "regular" handwriting style !
@CamperRage3 ай бұрын
Ahh, while doing the Genki workbook practices, I've just been winging how the hiragana, katakana, and kanji are supposed to look based on computer fonts. This video will be quite helpful to me going forward, thank ya!
@camillarose72383 ай бұрын
You should look up stroke order
@DinnerForkTongue2 ай бұрын
For kana, you have exercises and demonstrations out the nose, including worksheets for practice. Even Wikipedia has a how-to-write for each kana, in both varieties. For kanji, I use Jisho. Their stroke-by-stroke demonstrations were such a huge help that my handwriting style is essentially those animations + natural human imprecision.
@FunnelCakeRyan3 ай бұрын
ゴジラゆきが怖いですね! EDIT: WOW that tip about か where the second and third strokes look like ハ is really great. I instantly got much better at writing it!
@gabriel.fagundes3 ай бұрын
Now that you practiced letter by letter, I would like to see you writing in context, like some phrases, and having her to point out what would go better in the whole harmonization
@brianmylesrothstein766017 күн бұрын
I have ALWAYS suffered at the Na-line and Ra-line hiragana! Thank you SO MUCH for this in-depth break down, this has helped me study and pass my quizzes in my Japanese class! I have a problem where my jeans kana look sloppy like Andy's, and seeing how Yuuki writes them like calligraphy makes it so much easier to understand why the stroke orders are the way they are. NOW, after days of constant practice, my own hiragana look like something between Yuuki's "form" and Andy's "function" and I've even gotten a surprise compliment from my Japanese professor on the "roundness" of my "no" "me" and "nu"s! I'm going to show this video to one of my classmates who also struggles with the Ra-line, as Yuuki's explanation of "ra" was so helpful. You two are the best. I seriously can't thank you enough
@oldap332 ай бұрын
Great tips, especially for the ”か” with which i was struggling a lot !
@SanctionXV3 ай бұрын
This was a really interesting! I am currently at language school and the first set of teachers with き、さ、ち were very big on making sure the loops were not connected. the next semester, I got marked wrong on all of those for not connecting them. So it is interesting to see this process and Yuki's criticism and tips!
@Yotanido3 ай бұрын
I don't think I have ever seen a ち that wasn't connected. For き and さ I have seen both, but unconnected seems far more common.
@SanctionXV3 ай бұрын
@@Yotanido Interesting! My first group of teachers said either was fine, but the connected was the “old way” and the teacher that marked me for not connecting was older 🤔
@milinpatel9123 ай бұрын
21:30 ehh wait minute! Horizontal line on け is actually going in downward direction.. mine was like Andy's one going in upward direction.. Thanks Yuki for this! It makes sense it to be downward as it'd make circle properly.. got it got it! Thanks!
@h2knad3 ай бұрын
フォントと手書きで違うの結構あるよね 英語でもaとかgとか違ったりするし
@jordandamron37693 ай бұрын
Always nice to see Yuki in a video!
@joce35533 ай бұрын
aw i love when yuki joins, this was a fun video :3
@tara60712 ай бұрын
This video made me memorize hiragana easily and faster! Im really glad I clicked on this video ^^
@sandrabrauer46643 ай бұрын
This really helped. Would love to see more videos like this. Arigato ❤
@nijinokanata1113 ай бұрын
This was extremely helpful! I'm always getting marks off for stroke order! ありがとうございます!
@ToKiniAndy3 ай бұрын
Glad to hear you found it useful!
@banditmain64013 ай бұрын
Yuki is such a good teacher, I like her positivity and encouragement. Listening to her talk is helping with my listening while also learning how to write my hiragana better.
@_KondoIsami_3 ай бұрын
Basically you have to keep in mind the way the stroke moves to understand how they connect The い has that little curve in the bottom because you can go up and connect to the top of the next portion of it, similarly the き has a style were the bottom curve disconnects, this disconnection in some styles happen because they imitate how with a brush its easy to naturally disconnect. Regardless of style the important is to remember the stoke order and keep in mind that the order is not random, it's there because you need to move to the next part in a certain way, the stroke order is there to enforce the flow which helps your calligraphy and keep people from making things too weird.
@DinnerForkTongue2 ай бұрын
Indeed. Stroke order homogenises the writing across multiple styles, and as a plus it's the easiest method of writing consistently. When I started practicing my writing speed it REALLY came in handy.
@francesbell43863 ай бұрын
This is brilliant. So helpful.
@emanuelmassin232Ай бұрын
What I'm noticing is that, most of the things she corrects, are the things apps and tutorials tend to teach, so basically, we've been taught wrong for years
@bornfromcinders3 ай бұрын
So helpful, especially about the linking strokes ideas... also helps to understand reading native scribble hiragana which can be hard. I would love a Katakana one!
@jickhertz412416 күн бұрын
I love how she uses the pen marker like a calligraphy brush! You can see her thin out the ends on some and the thicker hooks on others!
@AyaChawadАй бұрын
Love the video!! Thank you. It automatically made my handwriting better
@anjuro3 ай бұрын
Imagine if her elementary school teacher just randomly sees this video and posts a comment "Jiiiiiii" XD I wouldn't be able to sleep after that.
@sorattenii15203 ай бұрын
that was so useful and practical, thank you so much T-T can you please do with katakana too ?
@CesarSchrega29 күн бұрын
One thing I noticed by myself, after observing a lot of calligraphy... Japanese is written as if you were doing a single continuous line. Sometimes why you in the same line you take the penal get it off the paper keep on the line and get the thing down
@DinnerForkTongue26 күн бұрын
Bullseye. 🎯 You just nailed why the writing is like it is: strokes form continuous lines between each other, and are ordered so as to situate the next stroke's position so the form is consistent.
@guyloser23 ай бұрын
ooh might write along with you guys as well. katakana would be nice as well for next video
@Neptoid3 ай бұрын
So foreigners write the characters like a font while natives are taught to write in calligraphic style
@freidrichvonleibneifferdie38203 ай бұрын
Kana is based on cursive kanji. They are supposed to be rounded and "calligraphic" even in fonts
@Neptoid3 ай бұрын
@@freidrichvonleibneifferdie3820 You might have seen that the westerner used variants that had different skeleton and parts of the letter which she didn't use (such as 'fully' connected hiragana ki). So it isn't just about the proportions or rounding of the letters. Or straights or curves. She consistently interpreted them as cute or especially cute, which might be because font-like characters are more rounded and wide than usual. The fonty vs actual handwriting distinction became very useful for them (see 23:14 for example), the purpose of my comment was to highlight the distinction they used and to show that westerners probably had the same learning path from fonts and not handwriting or things in a more calligraphic style. A calligraphic style usually refers to handwriting or effects from stress (angle from writing element), varying pressure and stroke thickness, or artifacts from a brush
@DinnerForkTongue2 ай бұрын
If you just draw them as you see them in text, yes, as a foreigner you'll do that. It's an easy "trapping" to fall into. If you find stroke order demonstrations, though, it's just like a native learns.
@divine.frequencies3 ай бұрын
W😲W Yuki is an awesome help🤩 I learnt from comments also. I hope she helps more often🌟 Thank you both😊
@ToKiniAndy3 ай бұрын
I'm glad to hear that you found it helpful. 😊
@happyzahn803123 күн бұрын
She does the calligraphy way, not the simple stick way. So many fonts available with just a pen/pencil :)
@cargath3 ай бұрын
I've always had trouble with the curvy ones, this actually helped a lot, thanks! Also, i've been making the same mistake with も, despite having the stroke order right there on the back of the Anki card xD
@riku80452 ай бұрын
Please make a similar video for Katana with your wife! I enjoyed this educational and entertaining content and am interested in watching more. It has helped me improve my Hiragana writing skills. I deeply appreciate your consideration.
@RilanadeHaasАй бұрын
When he said that the ka-ki-ku-ke-ko is most difficult.. I was flabbergasted 😆It is the easiest ones for me! Very interesting how it's so different for everyone
@dio_prxАй бұрын
Hey started japanese like a week ago, and i gotta thank you a lot for this, it helped me so much while learning how to write the Hiragana the right way ! please do one for Katakana too please 🙏
@森裕紀-s3o3 ай бұрын
His hiraganas are better than mine whereas I am a Japanese age of 42 who was educated in Japan.
@dylangoike9439Ай бұрын
I'm currently learning Chinese and one thing I've learned is that the neater your symbols are, the more they look like they were done by an elementary schooler 😂😂
@itsgetteee272919 күн бұрын
Love this video! Hope you do one for Katakana too.
@derrekingledue31382 ай бұрын
Excellent video from only 10 minutes in! I hope you do this again with Katakana. After work, definitely going to write some of them, watch the section, and analyze what I'm doing. Thank you!
@derrekingledue31382 ай бұрын
Follow up since I watched the video. I was doing 10 of them totally wrong. I wish we could see more with the grid. Even after watching the video, I have a tendency to have the bottom curve of my を protrude from the bottom line of the notebook. I do have a 原稿用紙(げんこうようし)notebook coming in, so hopefully that will help me with my writing.
@clarisakakimotoАй бұрын
oh from now on i watch youre blog its much better i heard both youre talking maybe i can memorize except writing 😊 impossible i can
@japanesenovice3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this video Andy San and thank you to your wife, Yuki San! With this, I have a specific reference to my daily hiragana practice(I was having trouble between choosing textbook/font or calligraphy-esque and why some characters are shaped the way they do)! Looking forward to your katakana video next!
@johannschneider63723 ай бұрын
An awesome video! I have one question, not really related to the topic of the vid, but once I saw Yuki, I thought that I might try to ask - some weeks ago a small group of jurists just finished a new translation of the Civial Code of Japan with commentaries on the most important articles. Incorporated into the comments are some decisions of the Supreme Court of Japan, I had a decision from 1935. I do my main japanese legal research in constitutional law of the Meiji era. All that lead-up for that question: How hard is it for japanese natives to read such documents (a decision from 1935 or even the Meiji-Constitution)? I studied Japanese at university next to law and I found it quite hard to read those texts.
My writing is bad but all I want is to read... Might be fun to write cursive at her and see how she does. Literally zero videos on KZbin about that.
@eyeofthasky29 күн бұрын
14:40 ka is just the kanji 力 with an extra "dot" xD .... Well in fact its the character 加 'to add' which used the be pronounced something like "ka" in older chinese, and "chia"/"jia" today
@Kanji1013 ай бұрын
Her と face looks like Doug
@PoluxYT3 ай бұрын
I think the characters I mess up the most are か、そ、ひ、ふ and ら. Definetely improved after the video, at least they look less like a computer font 😁. And now I feel confident that my い and り can be told apart!
@amamen21132 ай бұрын
тот самый уровень осознания английского и японского, что я не сразу понял что они все видео говорят на разных языках...
@TheMakoyou3 ай бұрын
Your wife is like a school teacher.😂 I'm Japanese who have not written jumping the left stick of "い" for about 20 years.😅
@DinnerForkTongue2 ай бұрын
Out of all hiragana, ふ was easily my biggest struggle and the one that required the most practice. My best description of mine is "a flame's outline surrounded by a rain of harpoons".
@amytheorangutan3 ай бұрын
Oh thank you! I really want to improve my handwriting. Also hoping you would do kanji handwriting exercise at some point because my kanji looks very childish and disproportionate some characters look like multiple characters when I write it because of how disconnected and disproportionate they are 😭
@nelsondrums51353 ай бұрын
you should do the opposite where you critique her English characters
@Duda286Ай бұрын
well i guess i guess ive just spent an hour and a half to re-learn to write basic kana onto some paper
@alucarderipmavtubeАй бұрын
Why am I thinking about the "Danna-sama" song in this video? "Kyun-kyun" "Piko-piko"
@gintuner43713 ай бұрын
^That "o" she wrote seemed like a bit much. its something i've pretty much only seen exaggerated like that in calligraphy, but the angles of that triangle are much too sharp. when you see it being done in calligraphy, there is clearer change from convex to concave curve forming the triangular shape, but with a mechanical pencil or a marker, that just looks so odd.
@mello6622 ай бұрын
i love how they just speak their languages
@ShiruSama13 ай бұрын
Many different あ are ok as long as the lower part looks like a normal め
@idontknowwhatimdoinghere3 ай бұрын
8:29 kinda looks like a り. Either it’s just my ukiyo-e ‘font’ brain, or other folks see it too.
@mickum73118 күн бұрын
As a Japanese, her handwriting is Absolutely Super Beautiful!Even I'd practiced traditional calligraphy for 7 years, My handwriting is not as good as her!!
@truthByFire3 ай бұрын
Why does your wife have breadsticks coming out of her eyes in the thumbnail?
@ToKiniAndy3 ай бұрын
Haha why indeed.
@jud100002 ай бұрын
such a good video!! I’m an advanced learner but still need work on my handwriting… will be coming back to reference this!
@moneer62683 ай бұрын
I usually have problems with the katakana bcz it has the smiling face things and the differences is unnoticeable
@patricktitterud5673Ай бұрын
This is fantastic content AND...your wife is so funny; especially when she destroys you 😅
@rawcopper6043 ай бұрын
When are you doing this with Kanji? I'd love to see the differences between how Chinese and Japanese write Chinese characters as a student of Mandarin
@britty233 ай бұрын
This was so helpful! Please do katakana next! 😄
@ToKiniAndy3 ай бұрын
Thank you @britty23!
@aquinolordjamesa.42432 ай бұрын
HI!! I started learning japanese because I wanna move to japan any tips to actually make learning japanese easier??
@bleep00043 ай бұрын
Now do roman one. Maybe print and cursive.
@JoyOfTheLORD.3 ай бұрын
そ has to be the most annoying character to write lol i put so much effort into writing this one.
@greyhaeven488 күн бұрын
Im newer and watched both this and the original hiragana/katakana video with the handwriting tutorials - this also honestly helped me get some more tactile to memorize the kana! Id love to see more of this (maybe a kanji/katakana version?)
@ToKiniAndy8 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching! We're working on the edit for the Katakana video right now! 😊
@arsia.3 ай бұрын
For me ふ is the hardest.
@patriciagomez91624 күн бұрын
Would you also be making a Katakana video like this?
@jordanmckinney69733 ай бұрын
If we have questions regarding the Japanese where can we ask, andy?
@piersikas3 ай бұрын
you have to cover katakana now :) fun video, want more like this :)
@vita.miinii3 ай бұрын
i thought i knew hiragana.
@CatinaboxReal3 ай бұрын
ふ was really hard for me to learn how to write until i started thinking of it as a 3 in the middle of a short ハ (i do the middle part in one stroke, for purely stylistic reasons)
@CamiWuzHere2 ай бұрын
Really? Thats how I saw it at first 😭
@hazeltaylor73213 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed this video, I learnt a lot and it was nice to listen to Yukie speak and to pick out words I knew. I also learnt I am rubbish at fu, but great at ya. Please do the same with Katakana, as I am sure it will be just as great.
@redraven84822 ай бұрын
う is pretty cursed. 🤣 I always screw up. 😅
@funnyman5403 ай бұрын
Hey are you still going to do the followup course on kanji where you teach us how to read words?
@ToKiniAndy2 ай бұрын
Yup! We're getting close to full re-working the reading section of our Anki deck that it is based on, so we should only be a month or so out from getting that series back up and going. 😊
@hydrocynic3 ай бұрын
This is awesome!! I'm currently studying Japanese and this was fun to watch, I really struggled writing あ when I was learning how to write it, lol.
@AMegaPear3 ай бұрын
Finding out that I've also been using the wrong stroke order for も destroyed me lol
@niwa_s3 ай бұрын
It *is* very unintuitive when you've gotten far enough to develop an intuition for stroke order...
@Missmay123pАй бұрын
Same here 💀 wrong stroke order for 10 years 😭
@SpeedyGwen2 ай бұрын
tbh, all his hiragana are more or less perfect and easy to read while almost all her hiragana are Really really hard to read for me and a verry weird font which isnt what I learned to read... if the guy wrote a phrase, I would be able to read it but not the girl...
@random8323 ай бұрын
What is the cause of the systematic differences between computer fonts and normal handwriting, especially in cases like さ/き? like, obviously *someone* wrote them that way, whoever designed the font. Was it a regional dialect, a style that just later fell out of favor, or just one person's strange handwriting that ended up being the template for the first computer fonts and everyone else copied?
@jaycee3303 ай бұрын
Probably because back on a printer's press, connected characters came out better, they were optimized for the printing press. It's the same reason "a" and "g" have different variants, especially when handwritten. Almost no one writes "g" as the "g" with the closed loop on the bottom, and most people write "a" with the large loop on the left.
@krakowian3 ай бұрын
amazing video, please do also katakana
@UwU_the_UwUer20 күн бұрын
tbh i think my problem is that i write english almost exclusively in cursive. and when i write hiragana, you can tell. also thank you for the "he" explanation. the thing i learned it from made them look exactly the same 😅
@MasonTheFurryCatАй бұрын
I separated my そ into 2 strokes- It is like sorta the first stroke is フ and the second is て
@Daniel-tg8cf3 ай бұрын
Great Video and great tips as well! My handwriting improved :D
@kaiolowen57883 ай бұрын
former art major here. i have terrible english handwriting, but i LOVED learning hiragana/katakana and practiced it like crazy. it was too late for english for me but decided to try to make my kana at least legible. All i ever wanted was my japanese teacher to praise my writing :D:D
@DinnerForkTongue2 ай бұрын
Hah, I can relate. My handwriting in the Latin alphabet is... legible. Perfectly legible. But that's about the best compliment I can give it. Meanwhile, I did dozens of sheets worth of kana exercises, literally _dozens,_ both from study worksheets and repetition practice in my notebook. And hey, I got my praises! Both teachers I've had so far praised my handwriting so highly that they got me fidgeting 😅 But the coolest part is, all that practice transferred over to kanji! Made getting used to writing them a very easy step, even complicated kanji in notebook lines' worth of space.
@IndustrisasiIndonesia22 күн бұрын
If Vietnam could use the Latin alphabet. Mongolia can use Cyrillic alphabet. Why don't any East Asian countries follow suit?
@UlaTheyabАй бұрын
I hope you make her owned the channel :because she is from japan and she learned in her country so,she is realising the correct way of writing and spelling …if a person wants to be really good in japanese language and fluently speaking it will be very helpful to learn it from her or any japanese person. Also there is something annoying me that in apps and videos or other sources of information I realise it’s incorrect. I noticed that there is a simple difference between your writing and her writing ✍🏻 (this is my opinion as a girl wants to learn correct grammar of japan 🇯🇵 language). But this simple difference make effort 😢for writing for me. I hope you make a video about katakana with her.
@k521783 күн бұрын
Thank you! I’ve been learning and practicing Hiragana with you guys for a week. Hopefully I can do the same for Katakana