Two White Gays Complain About Overtourism in Japan

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Tokyo BTM

Tokyo BTM

Күн бұрын

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@christao408
@christao408 2 күн бұрын
Really interesting topic. Hate to say it, but channels such as yours have probably contributed to the problem. The nature of social media is people find out about local, “secret” places. I like that you ended with some tips - might be good for any future videos where you show us local places, to include some reminders of how to behave correctly.
@Useernaamee
@Useernaamee 8 күн бұрын
Meng brought up such an important point. So many things in Japan would be straight up racist somewhere else but a lot of people give it a pass because ✨️japan✨️
@Quies8
@Quies8 7 күн бұрын
Meng’s sad expression as he laments that he “can’t taste the locals anymore” says everything about the dire situation in Japan. On a more serious note, this isn’t just a Japan problem. A few bad tourists can ruin things for everyone. I used to work retail in Paris, and I always did my best to help Japanese customers, even when they couldn’t speak a word of English or French. Sometimes it lead to funny situations, sometimes awkward ones! You can’t really expect tourists to know every little custom when they travel, but giving them the right info can go a long way. And let’s be real: rude and pushy people are everywhere. That’s just how it is. Not everyone’s polite or respectful, even though it sucks when they’re not. Overtourism is an issue everywhere, and to be fair, the Japanese have done their share of contributing to it when traveling abroad too.
@YAYimfreeYAY
@YAYimfreeYAY Күн бұрын
I agree that bad tourists exist everywhere, but the reality is, there's no way to completely eliminate them. Naturally, the more tourists a country attracts, the higher the chance of encountering some who behave poorly. However, in Japan, the deeper issue lies in the abundance of unspoken and often unreasonable social rules. For example, in one of your previous videos, the owner of a store came out and told you guys to take your conversation elsewhere while you guys were just quietly chatting in front of the store, which didn't really make sense. These are rules that may not be obvious to outsiders and even to Japanese locals themselves. If certain rules are truly important, they should be clearly communicated. Japan isn’t an isolated "Japanese-only" society. It’s a global destination. Expecting foreigners to intuitively grasp a myriad of unwritten norms isn’t practical. Every culture has its own way of life, and learning every intricate detail of a foreign culture takes time, if it’s even possible at all. Respect should be mutual. Just as tourists should strive to learn and adapt to Japanese customs, locals should also acknowledge cultural differences and approach misunderstandings with patience, rather than harsh judgment. A little guidance goes a long way. For instance, signs in English explaining certain cultural expectations could prevent common faux pas. Ultimately, living in a globally connected world requires understanding and compromise from both sides. p.s. And just like Meng mentioned, who knows who flushed whatever? It feels like they’re quick to blame foreigners whenever something unusual happens, without bothering to investigate properly. How convenient.
@minion789
@minion789 7 күн бұрын
Meng is spot on. When meng brought up the xenophobia in Japan, Andrew is straight to the defence of the people who reject him 7 times out of 10 because of the way he looks. It's wild. And then middle guy like oh I kinda get it after all this time and it's not coming from a place of xenophobia. Then where does it come from? This whole hurdle people in Japan have to jump over is of their own making. Ive always wanted to visit Japan but you're honesty about foreign experiences has really put me off :( Thanks for sharing regardless Tokyobbtm
@taiwanmark
@taiwanmark 7 күн бұрын
Agree with Meng too that this is xenophobia and wouldn't be allowed in most other countries. It's discrimination to have a blanket approach to foreigners but totally reasonable to deny entry to someone who doesn't understand or follow basic rules.
@ΚάποιοςΑγνωστος-χ1ξ
@ΚάποιοςΑγνωστος-χ1ξ 8 күн бұрын
I don’t know of any countries that allow people to flush towels down the toilet. Even if a country has a good sewage system it goes without saying that large objects will clog the toilet that’s why they have signs to not flush tampons, serviettes, diapers or baby wipes. Maybe your BJ bar is being sabotaged by a rival bar or something.
@RexCapulet
@RexCapulet 7 күн бұрын
This. That’s not a “foreigner” thing. That’s an a**hole thing. And it sounds like a repeat offender the doorman keeps letting in.
@devinjohnson1999
@devinjohnson1999 3 күн бұрын
I just completed my 8th trip last week; I met my locals on dating apps. I do frequent zaza as well. Glad I watched this video as trip 9 occurs in February, 10 in March, 11 in May and my Japanese immersion for 4 weeks in October 2025
@mikemcfly4297
@mikemcfly4297 2 күн бұрын
I just bought one of your fabulous shirts for Xmas! Thanks for the great design and I hope it helps the channel out a little! 🎄
@devinjohnson1999
@devinjohnson1999 3 күн бұрын
Seth is spot on in the recap! Meng about foreigners being called out for what locals do; see the Reddits on this.
@HenryFL1
@HenryFL1 8 күн бұрын
The problem is bad behaving tourists rather than too many . Many act as if they are at Disney World where anything goes . They don’t know or respect a counties customs . We have been to Japan many years and have noticed the decline in social norms from such tourists. Sad 😔
@melancholicflaneur23
@melancholicflaneur23 8 күн бұрын
when every tourist points fingers at other tourists and say "you're bad; just not me"...
@HenryFL1
@HenryFL1 7 күн бұрын
@@melancholicflaneur23 Your comment makes no sense - your implying I misbehave too ? I saw 👀 it first hand - loud taking in places one should be quite , trash thrown on street , tourists touching things they shouldn’t - list goes on
@jeffkleist9679
@jeffkleist9679 8 күн бұрын
I stay in Shinjuku for the transit access. In June areas were like 80% tourists in Kabukicho. While I haven't ran into any badly behaving ones in person, the sheer mass was oppresssive, far more than the usual Japanese crowds. And it would never occur to me to flush an oshiburi. I got X'd at tthe door at several restaurants, even though I spoke Japanese plenty well enough to order
@passatboi
@passatboi 8 күн бұрын
Agree with Meng. Deal with it, Japan. The world is shrinking. There are different people going everywhere. Imagine if we said "no Asians" in America or Canada. Imagine if we said "I can't understand your butchered English with your heavy Chinese accent". Come on. Tourists have been visiting Japan for decades. Why is it always such a friggin' shock to everyone?
@remonk2232
@remonk2232 6 күн бұрын
あなたがno asianとno foreignerを一緒だと思ってることが残念でたまらない。人種を否定することは差別になるから。 自分が外国人の立場だったらとしてもno foreignerと言われても何とも思わない日本人が多いと思います。でもno asianは違う。全く違う。誰もno whiteなんて言ってない。 それにゲイコミュニティの中でno asianやno blackはよくあることです。 あなたが知らないだけ。
@HenryFL1
@HenryFL1 5 күн бұрын
@@passatboi Totally disagree with you Many tourists are disrespectful in many ways - some even arrested ! There is NO excuse for their behavior and we should not accept it . It’s not Disney - it’s a country with their own customs . If you don’t like it , don’t come period
@collectivebrainrot
@collectivebrainrot 7 күн бұрын
The point about Nichōme is super interesting-makes me wonder if gayborhoods in other countries deal with overtourism the same way. Silom in Bangkok, for example, feels super tourist-friendly but still stays a strong local LGBTQ+ spot. Japan, though, could do more to adapt? Sure, there will always be some bad apples among tourists, but clearer dos and don’ts in multiple languages would help a lot, especially since the rules and etiquette can be confusing with the language barrier. Honestly, I feel like we tend to sometimes "baby" Japan too much, making excuses instead of expecting small changes that could really ease the pressure on places like Nichōme.
@jwy414
@jwy414 7 күн бұрын
Yikes - any tips on how to identify no-foreigner bars in Tokyo? Kinda anxious now about our trip next week 🙀
@UnitedFrequency
@UnitedFrequency 8 күн бұрын
Dealing with tourists-who sometimes seem more like terrorists-definitely requires a good dose of patience and a bit of humor in my beach neighborhood. They often have no clue about driving rules, which can make things a bit risky. I try to use these frustrating moments to practice a mini meditation and chat with my SUMMIT APP coach, who helps me focus on emotional sobriety.
@minimach1
@minimach1 8 күн бұрын
I tink the problem with hot towel issue is more of petty queens not getting their 'flutes' played after paying the high entry fee and therefore sabotage the estabilishment deliberately and maliciously. Another scenerio is competition sabotaging when they are jealous with their 'good' business. My 5 cents worth. 😉
@Dilladoc25
@Dilladoc25 8 күн бұрын
Another great video! A hot (and smart) guest too doesn’t hurt! I love the way you guys explain Japanese culture in practical terms so viewers can get an idea of the real Japan. Great job!!
@RexCapulet
@RexCapulet 7 күн бұрын
LET’S. GOOOOOO!!! Been waiting on this vid. The thing is so often, especially in Japan, the word “foreigner” is tied with rude people. I’ve been to Tokyo 3 times and I’ve seen a wide range of foreigner behavior. Yes that foreigner was a jerk or has an attitude, but guess what, they’re also that horrible at home. Just like not every Japanese person is nice and accommodating. No one base or style of people can be generalized and that’s the issue I have with Japan. Their culture of hospitality, while very gracious and positive, is also passive aggressive and closed minded. Ask anyone half Japanese half something else what their experiences have been and brace yourself. 😮‍💨😮‍💨 Long story a little less long: Japan NEEDS foreigners. You think it’s bad NOW? Japan will be consumed by bratty rich influencer kids who can afford to move there unless they become more open to EVERYONE. But in order to better preserve their culture they need to drop the facade of treating everyone like a weekend house guest. They need to be stern in their laws and policies. They need to push back.
@RexCapulet
@RexCapulet 7 күн бұрын
Also the towel in the toilet? That sounds like a repeat offender who lives there and frequents the place. Flushing towels isn’t normal behavior anywhere so it’s not a “foreigner problem”. And if it were, it wouldn’t be happening so often as travelers often, you know, travel. Sounds like some hot jerk the doorman keeps letting in because he fits that bathhouse’s strict physical requirements.
@THikkikomori
@THikkikomori 8 күн бұрын
Re: Andrew being rejected in such an over the top kind of way 😤 There's this one sauna I went to a few times in Kuala Lumpur. One time I was introduced to someone there by a staff member and it became a point of contention between me and that other client. Apparently, I wasn't congenial or aware of the appropriate social grace to respond with at that moment. I'm not used to being introduced to other clients by sauna staff members. Expecting the usual anonymity I enjoy while at saunas, having a staff member regard me in a way that would bring the attention of other sauna clients is very unusual. So the person I was introduced to by sauna staff became really upset about me not making a point to smile and say hi - I thought the eye contact and the nod I gave him was sufficient. For the rest of the night whenever he saw me, he'd try to have his friends join him in being a mean girl toward me. When I tried to smooth things over he didn't want to hear it; he made a big dramatic scene when I tried talking politely with him. Another time at that same sauna, this really muscular short guy was strutting in the steam room. When I went to touch him he hissed and made a big fuss about it and very flamboyantly walked away. When guys are like that in a place like a sauna where you don't have to be so over the top about saying no to someone, well... it really just points to an unmet need that they're trying to fulfill at that moment. They need to feel like they're being the most visible person at that moment in time and don't like when they don't get the kind of attention they expect from the other people in the sauna. It's a good thing they make themselves so obvious when they do that because it makes it clear for people like you and I to just avoid them and let them have their moment. While I was in Tokyo for October, the hattenba ranking video you guys made it easier for me to find places to explore as a foreigner in Japan. Oddly, the notice/photo you shared in this video was posted in BJ bar October 1st of 2024; I went to BJ Bar two times and never noticed that specific sign. I also didn't get any kind of towel (a warm towel or a wet wipe) at all. I did see a sign to use a sink in the front of the bar (near the toilet) where you can wash up before/after playing around. I remember feeling awkward about cleaning up there because I kept knocking my elbow into the wall and it probably disturbed the guy in the bathroom who was also cleaning himself off in there. Since I didn't know any japanese and assumed he was japanese, I didn't really know how to explain myself and I just kind of felt bad for being an unintentional nuisance.
@Chantalgm3
@Chantalgm3 8 күн бұрын
Sounds like some people are emotionally stunted attention seekers who takes things way too personally. Best solution would’ve been to not explain yourself & go on your way; maybe even report them to the staff for harassing you w/ his friends.
@АртёмБогданов-о2о
@АртёмБогданов-о2о 8 күн бұрын
I’m in Japan right now, and it makes me sad to see some tourists who treat Japan like a quirky amusement park (what I’d call the Logan Paul syndrome). I’ve been interested in Japan my whole life, and yet I’m still not entirely sure I don’t come across as an awkward gaijin. But I do understand the basic principles to avoid being a nuisance to the locals: 1. Pay attention and follow the flow. Stick to the correct side on escalators, line up properly at train doors or cash registers, and just observe how things are done. Bow, use a chopping motion with your hand to let someone pass, and hand over money neatly. It’s really not hard for anyone with decent manners. 2. Take up less space, be quieter, and don’t stink (body or perfume). Don’t manspread on public transport, dude. Don’t talk loudly or wave your hands around. If you’re from a country where people yell and flail their arms in conversations-either duct-tape your hands to your sides or just don’t come to Japan. 3. If you’re not sure what to do, ask a local. And so on.
@quasarkai
@quasarkai 4 күн бұрын
I am from the US, but live in Tokyo now. I have been here only a few months. Whenever I have gone to a ハテンバ , I mostly saw that foreigners hooked up with other foreigners anyway. Japanese locals, for the most part, aren’t really interested in non-Japanese or non-Asian looking people. So the fact that the ハテンバs are getting more foreigners (the ones that allow foreigners) and less locals doesn’t surprise me. There is a street of bars in ニ丁目 that have signs on their doors saying “no foreigners or non-Japanese speakers.” Essentially, you can’t argue to justify this without coming across that you agree it. I didn’t hear if the two White guys in this video actually asked why businesses in Tokyo discriminate against foreigners, they only were guessing as to why it occurs. In Tokyo, no less. Like, one of the most transient cities in the world! Also, tourism is going to continue to be “overwhelming” everywhere, even in other countries like the USA. There are more people on this planet than there was ten years ago, and a lot more people with money to travel than there was even just five years ago. Why complain about it when you can just move back to your home country? No one is forcing any foreigners to stay in Japan. In fact, I think they hope that most of us leave anyway.
@Jackson-g4u
@Jackson-g4u 8 күн бұрын
> every time i visit Tokyo (will be back in April '25) i try to be as respectful & non-demandy as i can - Americans can be very demandy ! thanks so much for all these reminders guys ~ ~ ~
@Gendergoblin123
@Gendergoblin123 8 күн бұрын
Meng trying to look interested. You’re killing me!!!
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 8 күн бұрын
You guys always have the fun guests! Hello, Seth 👋🏽
@dagontheseatitan7846
@dagontheseatitan7846 8 күн бұрын
As always you guys put out great content as usual and can’t wait for next video. I must say this was a informative video today and now what to if ever go to Japan in future.
@Love_TheArtist
@Love_TheArtist 8 күн бұрын
Seems like what you're describing is people who probably come from places where being openly gay/queer is either not allowed or frowned upon and they are just excited/nervous/eager to explore and experience. I get it, it can be annoying. But maybe there is an opening for a business (Tokyo BTM Club) for foreigners to meet and experience/learn about being gay/queer in Japan.
@jasonlee7225
@jasonlee7225 8 күн бұрын
I’ll be in Japan from Sunday for a month, and I intend to go in and out quietly like a ninja now 🥷what the bars need to have is IQ tests for patrons. Who flushes a cotton towel into the toilet???
@danielintheantipodes6741
@danielintheantipodes6741 8 күн бұрын
Always so interesting! Thank you for the video. Have an amazing week!
@wesleydhanis3304
@wesleydhanis3304 8 күн бұрын
The hell.. who thinks it is okay to go to a cruising bar, ... etc in group as a tourist attraction? Like whut!
@paulip80
@paulip80 6 күн бұрын
Totally agree that a lot of tourist spoil and ruin the overall life of the people living in those places. I left Barcelona because of this very reason. When it starts to impact the lives of people that live in those places it isn’t right. Tourist have this Main Character Syndrome and are never considerate of others because it’s their fun time and think they are a guest there. Hopefully, in March when I’m back it won’t be totally spoilt
@soju81
@soju81 6 күн бұрын
"Foreigners often appear older to Japanese than their actual age. Wow." LOL..... damn...
@ryo6146
@ryo6146 8 күн бұрын
私は50代前半だけど、私が20代の頃は、外国人の多くがGB TOKYO、もしくは向かいのビルの地下1階にあるCLUB Dragonに外国人が集まっていた。いわゆる「外専バー」みたいな感じ。 でも、2年前に飲みに行ったら、GB TOKYOはガラガラでちょっとショックだった。 Dragonも名前を変えて別の場所に移ったし、他にも外専バーができていて、お客は若い人ばかりで50代が入るには浮きまくって相手にされないような感じだった。 昔は外国人の50代や60代のオジサンでも普通にGB TOKYOやCLUB Dragon入ってたんだよね~。 2024年の10月に久しぶりに2丁目を見に行ったら、GB TOKYOが潰れていて、私が知っている2丁目はもう無いと思った。
@kuna8609
@kuna8609 8 күн бұрын
GB TOKYO潰れてないですよ 今日もX更新してます
@WayneMueller-ie7wu
@WayneMueller-ie7wu 8 күн бұрын
Very informative thank you for this video.
@Owenotter4
@Owenotter4 8 күн бұрын
I’m going next summer and just the idea of like being rude and demanding is like so scary. I am just so intimidated by people that like I just don’t understand it.
@Erigato2010
@Erigato2010 8 күн бұрын
One thing to point out that some foreigners (white people) may be majority in their own country (the US) and thus don’t really understand the whole “minority” are held to a higher standard
@quasarkai
@quasarkai 4 күн бұрын
When this guy said that, I cringed. In my mind, I was like, “is this White guy *uckin serious?!” The answer is, “Yes.”Deplorable.
@MarkGaffney-q1q
@MarkGaffney-q1q 6 күн бұрын
How fit is Seth but unfortunately he's a top, which is Know good to me! lol
@ElAye240
@ElAye240 8 күн бұрын
OKAYYYYYCONTRIBUTINGFROMABROAD!!! #HarrisWalz 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼⚡️⚡️💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽
@Jumpoable
@Jumpoable 7 күн бұрын
WHO THE HELL throws & tries to flush small TOWELS in the toilet???!?! Also Seth, his pecs & guns can get it.
@gatinhopretolp
@gatinhopretolp 8 күн бұрын
I'm spending the Christmas holiday in Tokyo. May the BJ Bar tremble. I promise to behave.
@EdmundKing
@EdmundKing 7 күн бұрын
Problems with tourists' behaviour go way beyond gay nightlife. For so many tourists in Japan, their reference points for Japan and Japanese-ness are anime, games and an international media that consistently highlights the "weird", "quirky" or "crazy" about Japan. Therefore, people behave as if they're in a giant theme park, not a real life city, and often act in a brash, entitled manner and differently to how they would in any other country, especially since everyone knows how safe Japan is and how non-confrontational Japanese people are. (Case in point, those horrendous "Mario" go-karts. You're not in a F-ing video game. Imagine if people did that in Paris or New York? People would hurl abuse... and objects!)
@coolrocksounds
@coolrocksounds 8 күн бұрын
Love the Square Enix representation.
@angelalebeaux4134
@angelalebeaux4134 8 күн бұрын
Y’all, all I’ll say is that I’m glad I brought a backpack to DisneySea because the amount of trash I had to pick up and hold on to from Korean tourists throwing it on the ground while waiting in long lines was outrageous.
@melancholicflaneur23
@melancholicflaneur23 8 күн бұрын
Meng: can you do a video in Mandarin for the mainlanders plssssssssssssssssssssssss. YOU know why it's important
@yco4747
@yco4747 8 күн бұрын
おしぼりの件は 店員さんに「手巾の温(冷)、御一つください」って日本語で言ってくれた人にだけ渡せば良いと思う、セルフにせず 店員さんに頼む形式 その時に ロッカーの鍵とかと交換で渡す様にして、おしぼり返却時にその人のロッカーの鍵を返す…とかで良いのでは?
@brillsmith2207
@brillsmith2207 8 күн бұрын
Mengs cheeky smile when he said hes going to be devils advocate haha such a gorgeous boy so cheeky
@forkgod
@forkgod 8 күн бұрын
Ok but why Alex so cute though? I wanted to put a smart comment as part of the commentary of the video, but got lost.
@dm6887
@dm6887 8 күн бұрын
I guess I’m a flautist now 🪈🎶
@restfulsilence
@restfulsilence 8 күн бұрын
I have been 4-5 times in Japan so far. I even learned the language a little. Just basic staff, but I think it is important, even if you are not fluently it it. The exchange rate was not good, but also not bad. Now that the exchnge rate has become more favourable recently, many people from other countries go to Japan, just because it is affortable and not because they really care for the country nor the culture. Even if you don't speak the language, but care for the country you have the chance with your smartphone to translate signs so that you can follow the rules. I saw so many bad videos recently that people do not follow the rules in Japan or are just plain rude. These kinds of tourists no country needs, and it breakst my heart, when I see people being not polite to Japanese people, even if the Japanese staff is trying everything to please their guest. I had my coming out just a couple of years ago so I haven't seen much of the Japanese Gay Culture. I feel sad that rude tourists have changed the thinking of Japanese people of foreigners and that I might not be able to catch up with what I have missed so far, because Japanese establishments are closing up for foreigners. 😔
@MP-lv5vk
@MP-lv5vk 8 күн бұрын
Some of the comments point out the issue with bad tourists. I want to avoid an “us and them” situation but do bad tourists bother to learn anything on a trip? I wonder if I might experience fewer restrictions by showing effort.
@Koharuie
@Koharuie 8 күн бұрын
Who would flush anything other than toilet paper down the toilet ? 😭 tho in my country's hotels they do often have signs next to the toilet saying not to throw things in there, idk if that's a thing in Japan too
@Gazeba32
@Gazeba32 3 күн бұрын
Okay Andrew's biceps are starting to swell...the increased protein is working 💪 I want to see Andrew's final Daddy evolution so bad ❤🤩🥰😍
@vercoda9997
@vercoda9997 4 күн бұрын
I haven't made it to Japan, yet, although it's been number-one on my bucket list for decades. No more delays - I'll get there in 2026 or 2027. I understand already that many places there have adopted a No Foreigners rule, which would be wildly illegal here in Ireland and would end in court problems for any business etc, but Japan works differently, and it's not going to be an issue for me. You get bad tourists everywhere; I think the upsurge in Japan's popularity in recent years, coupled with awful influencers, coupled with 20 and 30-somethings being notably very different and less considerate in general than how we were at that age, has all meshed together to create a trashier, loudee, brasher type of attention-seeking tourists who don't appreciate or respect that they Are in a sharply different culture. It's a pity, but then, I'll just be there alone anyway, not part of any group of drunk Americans etc acting badly.
@mhollick63
@mhollick63 8 күн бұрын
I was in Japan for two weeks in November. But I was on a tour and we didn't do any LGBT activities. I was at Shinagawa Station to catch a train. My next trip will be LGBT centered.
@ClaroKirari
@ClaroKirari 8 күн бұрын
さすがにおしぼりをトイレに流す人はいませんが、たとえば手に持てるサイズの小さなティッシュペーパーとかは水に溶けにくいので詰まってしまうことがあり、トイレで使って流すのは❌ダメです。気をつけてね!トイレに流せるのはトイレットペーパーだけよ
@quantafreeze
@quantafreeze 8 күн бұрын
Oh Andrew, so cheeky 😉
@mrsparkle9048
@mrsparkle9048 8 күн бұрын
Damn tourists! They ruined tourism!
@lukelausk
@lukelausk 8 күн бұрын
Mm... don't wanna ruin my good memory at BB... guess I'll have to find a new bath house =/ especially i have no groupie...
@James1701e
@James1701e 6 күн бұрын
3:26 How could people be so stupid as to flush a towel down the loo?!🙄 15:17 Wankers union😂 keeping the British end up there😜 Did @Seth.Sesu bring his own mug or did you provide it (from the replicator) Andrew?🖖🏻 For those establishments that don't want tourists, why don't they make it members only? General custom of paying a cover charge is there already so membership can be free just the requirement that you're a Japanese resident to be granted one.
@justaddvodka
@justaddvodka 6 күн бұрын
I think Alaska has a great song, "Your Make-up Is Terrible"! きもっ
@Wes_Jones
@Wes_Jones 8 күн бұрын
I've always wanted to visit Japan but I'm an old, chubby hairy bear with tattoos and don't speak any Japanese. From what it sounds like, I probably wouldn't have such a great time 🙁
@YZPYN
@YZPYN 8 күн бұрын
It's okay, because Shinjuku 2-chome has many bars for tourists too.
@remonk2232
@remonk2232 6 күн бұрын
That's not true. Japan has a lot of terrible foreigners but you're a decent guy you have no problem 😊
@calboy2
@calboy2 8 күн бұрын
I kind of wish the Japan tourist companies would just come out and say, "thanks, foreigners, but no thanks" - you can't have it both ways
@DavidCruickshank
@DavidCruickshank 8 күн бұрын
They need the money.
@UnitedFrequency
@UnitedFrequency 8 күн бұрын
It’s such a habit to toss things like that into the toilet. One time, I used a disposable towel just for my armpits and then threw it in the toilet. I thought, "Oh no, do I have to reach in there and get it out?" I couldn’t believe how automatic that was. I felt really ashamed of myself. -- Texas
@freemagicfun
@freemagicfun 8 күн бұрын
I was talking about the xenophobia and mass quantity of "no gaijin" signs. Another foreigner was telling me he has seen very few. I never really partied in Tokyo, just passed through the train station... are the signs common in Tokyo? I saw them, "some" years ago, all over in Sasebo, and even more in Yokosuka. Which, to be fair, have (had?) US Navy bases - which is why I was there ha ha. I mean, there have got to be some bad sailor stories in some of those bars. 😎🌴🍹
@ryo6146
@ryo6146 8 күн бұрын
米軍基地がある場所(沖縄・横須賀・横田、その他のエリア)では、基地内で働く人が車を運転して外に飲みに行き、飲酒運転をして人身事故を起こした場合、その場で現行犯で逮捕されるか、基地に入ってしまえば日米協定の影響で加害者をアメリカに引き渡す事になるので、逃げ得になってしまいます。 何年か前に、このような事件が何度も起きて、多くの日本人が怒り、何年か前に米軍基地で地元の夜間外出禁止令が出されました。 つまり、夜間は飲みに出歩くな、という事ですね。
@softballfj
@softballfj 8 күн бұрын
to me it sounds like xenophobia with the rationalization of it being "extra work" . There a lot of easy solutions that could resolve these issues involving nothing more than pen, paper, a printer and google translate. for the bars its a simple as having a laminated paper that says ( in the top common languages) entry is x , table fee is x and any food and drinks are extra. give the waiter a thumbs up if you understand or a thumbs down if you would like to leave. - or in the case if the towel when they enter give them a paper that says your checking out a towel if the towel is not returned when you leave you be charged x amount (an absorbent fee so they are motivated to return it) and if they dirty the towel they could just show the number to a staff member they can cross it out and assign them a new one. i dont think any of these are far fetched ideas or overly complicated.
@tc2334
@tc2334 8 күн бұрын
Exactly. The bottom line is that it seems Japanese people want to have places where they don't even have to look at or talk to foreigners.
@trellaine201
@trellaine201 7 күн бұрын
I love japan a lot. I mean alot. But if there is ONE beef I have are the bars. Segregated between foreigners and travelers. It is what it is I guess. Other than that Japan rocks?!
@hisdarksecret
@hisdarksecret 8 күн бұрын
OMG Meng 0:40 🤣
@lukelausk
@lukelausk 8 күн бұрын
Idiotic... and ignorant... to flush a towel into the toilet... in rural cities for some countries... they throw even toilet paper away in garbage can since the sewage isn't well developed... like on Greece island... and yes... kinda gross... Ah, I guess I don't have to feel bad for being lazy and didn't bother going to BodyBreath last time I came then lol... would suck if there is a group of chatter passing by when I am busy moaning, lol... thou it is likely I don't notice if the sex was good enough instead if going to BB that night, I chose to watch the Agatha finale that night, lol But surely the japan major cities have changed a lot since even before covid... one reason I avoid tokyo, osaka, and Kyoto except for flying hub...
@efghabcd7538
@efghabcd7538 8 күн бұрын
I'm not sure why people are so insistent that Japan is xenophobic when establishments in the US have zero patience for non-English speaking customers.
@tc2334
@tc2334 8 күн бұрын
Maybe because even when people are able to speak fluent Japanese, they’re still refused service. 😂 But hey, at least they pretend to be nice about it. Also, in the US (and most other places for the most part), you wouldn't be refused service for not being able to speak the local language fluently. This seems to be very Japanese phenomenon.
@OpoOnTheGo
@OpoOnTheGo 8 күн бұрын
Been to many states, never ran into any of these establishments you claim lack patience... you do remember the tipping culture here, right? Servers usually try to earn said tips lol. Turns out people like being able to afford living
@efghabcd7538
@efghabcd7538 8 күн бұрын
@@OpoOnTheGo Same for me here in Japan. Here for the past 20 years and have never once encountered anything remotely xenophobic. People will say if I never experienced it doesn't mean it doesn't exist but that also says the same about your comment. I do wish someone can tell me exactly the so-called establishments that refuse foreigners here in Japan so I could check it out.
@neth415
@neth415 8 күн бұрын
japanese xenophobia has extra steps and structures in it. and they’re super polite about it, US is more out of ignorance and western superiority
@efghabcd7538
@efghabcd7538 7 күн бұрын
@@tc2334 But where? I'm not trying to defend Japan but if anyone lists at least even some places, we can avoid them? There must be a million establishments in Tokyo alone and if you really encountered one, it's a bit far fetched to call it a Japanese phenomenon.
@art_hernandez
@art_hernandez 8 күн бұрын
First! ❤
@adelzaidi3462
@adelzaidi3462 7 күн бұрын
I'm planning a trip to Japan soon, and the occasion would be to celebrate my birthday there. I was wondering if you guys have any suggestion of a mama-san type of bar, witch a bar tender that speaks english. I went to one in nichome back in 2018, but then I got drunk and forgot anything I knew about it hahaha! I want to go to a place where one can socialize. I tried booking a table at the hills dinner 33 something at the azabudai hills, but they refuse reservations for less than 2 people and I would be traveling alone, so I thought a mama-san bar would be fun for a good time to mark the day!
@Joefromthevalley
@Joefromthevalley 8 күн бұрын
If I'm being honest, I've noticed that it's mostly Australian tourists.
@block-cp5mz
@block-cp5mz 8 күн бұрын
No foreigners know "the system" at the beginning; how can you get to know if you can't experience it? Vibe kill... Couldn't this be tourists in any sauna anywhere?
@maximilianogranillo5919
@maximilianogranillo5919 7 күн бұрын
Ir is not the overflow of turism. ITS THE US CITIZENS.
@Love_TheArtist
@Love_TheArtist 8 күн бұрын
Andrew, concerning the BJ bar, I have a question... Was there clear and understandable signs or were people informed about what to do with a used hand towel? Also, I have traveled quite a bit and now living in Germany, I have seen Germans do some pretty ridiculous things that foreigners have gotten the blame... just a few thoughts, it may not be the foreigners👀🤔
@msmachadodossantos
@msmachadodossantos 8 күн бұрын
Second ✋
@allansevilla5640
@allansevilla5640 8 күн бұрын
During the time I stayed in Tokyo (which was the mid nineties) bars, restos and even shops were very weary of foreigners. (Not all but some) So they had this system that, unless you have a local person(Japanese) to accompany you, you can't enter the establishment. So that the local can explain to the foreigner, and they can understand what the rules of the establishment is. As a foreigner myself, I thought this was kinda insulting but at the same time the culture is different. Like for example in the grocery you'll have the price printed out, but ofcourse when you pay you still have to add tax, which most foreigners think that they were being robbed coz theres already a price printed on the item. This was very confusing specially in shops. So maybe, just maybe, they can adopt this system now, unless the foreigners are accompanied by a local, they can be rejected...... Or unless they speak the language? Sorry I might be wrong but this is only a suggestion.....
@avarussurava9488
@avarussurava9488 8 күн бұрын
I don’t know why but I just hate when westerners go to another non-western country and just stay within themselves, not trying to meet/talk to any local and just treat the place like a backdrop, a theme park.
@ericlindstrom8932
@ericlindstrom8932 8 күн бұрын
As far as the towel situation is concerned… nobody is stupid enough to flush a cloth towel. My guess is it is a local trying to make foreigners look bad. As far as the chair/table charge goes… bars in other countries have door charges, and give you nothing.. no drink and no snack. I never had problems with paying it. I like that you are sort of renting a seat in a Japanese bar. You would be surprised at how many momisons are matchmakers and sit you next to someone you’ll vibe with. I do see many people defending Japanese xenophobia. They will excuse away racist and insulting behavior. It is what I least like about visiting Japanese.
@dami6722
@dami6722 8 күн бұрын
Third
@markm7441
@markm7441 7 күн бұрын
I admire the way Japanese support THEIR OWN culture. More countries should follow.
@Ampasss
@Ampasss 8 күн бұрын
The xenophobia openly shown here is kind of gross. Places need to be accommodating, not forcibly assimilate other peoples just to visit a country
@Ampasss
@Ampasss 8 күн бұрын
And the excuses made for this behaviour is wild too, especially from gay men
@ryo6146
@ryo6146 8 күн бұрын
ここ(日本)に住んでいる日本人や長期間住んでいる外国人は常識や品位が高いんです。 なぜ、常識や品位の無い外国並みに落とさなければいけないのですか? あと、一部のマナーの無い外国人のせいで、多くの日本人や長く住んでいる外国人に迷惑が掛かっているから、この動画を出したのではないでしょうか? マナーさえ守れない外国人は日本に来ないでほしい。
@mamferry17
@mamferry17 8 күн бұрын
As a foreigner living for 7 years in Japan, let me ask the same question to you, are you accommodating the culture of your destination? If you suddenly went to my house and imposed rules on me, I would also not invite you again. It's mutual respect. Japan as a culture expects this much from a tourist, then the tourist should honor that. Likewise Japan will/should honor the tourist with the same respect (which usually is already there in the first place).
@Ampasss
@Ampasss 8 күн бұрын
@ yeah, if you invited a guest over and then asked them to take their shoes off but the guest declined then the right thing to do would be to accommodate to that situation. Not tell the guest to learn the rules of your house or leave. That’s what authoritarian thinking leads you to, like the country you’ve spent 7 years in. You’ve excused racist and xenophobic behaviour for so long you’re now spouting it yourself. Sit and actually have a think about things before you just say what another person has told you as an excuse for why the Japanese are racist. It’s embarrassing for you honestly
@DiamondFlame45
@DiamondFlame45 8 күн бұрын
The irony in this comment and I say this as an American lol You have to accommodate to their culture to the best you can. It's no different in the US>
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