Just a thought. Lets build our replica as an artificial reef on the most desolate stretch of seafloor we can find. It would be costly but think of the confusion it would bring to future archeologists.
@ypey12 жыл бұрын
lol, dont forget to include a human extinction event to prevent the lore of the build surviving
@VideoDotGoogleDotCom2 жыл бұрын
Sounds pretty expensive, but hey, what isn't?
@paperclip95582 жыл бұрын
Hahaha. The most expensive trolling ever.
@playme1292 жыл бұрын
@ Steve. If you can think this, you have a wild imagination and far too much time on your hands.
@playme1292 жыл бұрын
@paperclip. Fishing. The backbone of the tourist industry. Ha , Ha. 😎
@jd9119Ай бұрын
The cost of a building can be justified by how much use you get out of that building. Our $2 billion+ stadiums give you probably 20-40 years of service. The Coliseum gave at least 400 years of service hosting sports and spectaculars. And even today it's getting service out of tourism. So I think the Romans got their money's worth out of it.
@franciscoserrano63393 күн бұрын
Solid points!
@junefranklin4583 күн бұрын
our 2b+ stadiums are wastes of money, dont forget the impact they have on gambling
@Nookdashiddole2 күн бұрын
Whatever idiot
@masamune..Күн бұрын
@@junefranklin458imagine the same in ancient Rome. Gambling is age old.
@WilderTime3 сағат бұрын
Nobody fucking cares
@SobekLOTFC2 жыл бұрын
You know, Lego have pirate and medieval themes- I think they're leaving money on the table not having an antiquity/Roman theme. Great job as always Garrett!
@fintan92182 жыл бұрын
Theres a lego colosseum, one of the most expensive sets
@sergpie2 жыл бұрын
There’s like a $5-600 Colosseum set available. He features it on the first 15 seconds of the video 😁
@BellSystem12 жыл бұрын
@@fintan9218 WHERE
@SobekLOTFC2 жыл бұрын
@@sergpie yes, but who can justify spending $600 on an architect set? I was more talking about the pirate and medieval sets Lego had back in the day that went with the space themes.
@sergpie2 жыл бұрын
@@SobekLOTFC A Lego-aficionado 😝 I’ve heard of collectors spending twice as much on stuff like that; if it’s for sale, there’s a client for it, somewhere haha
@charlesclifton10062 жыл бұрын
While in Rome, back in the mid 70s, I decided to leave my hotel and "find" the Colosseum. I took the subway via the "B" line and got off at the "Colosseo" station. All of this I had to look up on recent City of Rome subway maps but what I remember as clear as the day Kennedy was assassinated was the absolutely jaw-dropping sight of the structure as it sits directly across the street from the subway station. Keep in mind that as the Colosseum exists today, much of it's outer structure (wall) is gone.... still, it is huge and (to me) beautiful. This was a fascinating video ... thank you.
@HowardxDuck2 жыл бұрын
I’m not surprised at the large difference in estimated cost. I work at an architecture firm and we see massive variations in estimates and quotes all the time. You are right that we would not get an exact answer unless we actually built it. Everyone has a different way to measure the cost of a project
@penjim2 жыл бұрын
Indeed an engineering estimate is not the same thing as a bid..
@jhonatancock23022 жыл бұрын
I always underbid my estimations because i always take the all there no delay happy path, my oldest boss told me one time "think your number, multiply by 3, add 1M". That was a good number in reality.
@guyfawkesuThe12 жыл бұрын
It would cost about what an NFL stadium would cost today, so about $2 billion USD.
@tylerdurden37222 жыл бұрын
@@guyfawkesuThe1 Then how much would a colloseum with water, electricity, lights, restrooms, etc cost?
@guyfawkesuThe12 жыл бұрын
@@tylerdurden3722 That is what I am saying.
@InvestBetter.2 жыл бұрын
I'm very surprised no one, on Earth, has ever used the Roman Coliseum as a model for future stadium building. It is a beautiful design, and probably the most famous arena ever made.
@Matticitt Жыл бұрын
All modern stadiums are based on the colloseum - just not the achitecture of it.
@InvestBetter. Жыл бұрын
@@Matticitt Thanks for missing the point.
@jonathanDstrand19 күн бұрын
the Coliseum in LA?
@vinissues4634Күн бұрын
The Mané Garrincha stadium was named as the New Colleseum from Fifa
@bobdinitto2 жыл бұрын
The scope and scale of the Colosseum project is absolutely awe inspiring when you consider that it was done with manual labor and no modern machinery. That the ancients were so adept at organizing and managing such large building projects is a testament to human ingenuity, perseverance, and engineering discipline.
@jk-gb4et2 жыл бұрын
go write an essay for high school english class
@ReallyNoAlex2 жыл бұрын
The Ancient Greek temples such as temple of hera are even more impressive imo
@jasoncuculo70352 жыл бұрын
85,000 Jewish slaves from the Great Jewish Revolt worked in shifts to build it!
@kaloarepo2882 жыл бұрын
@@ReallyNoAlex The Roman temple at Baalbec in modern Lebanon was the biggest Roman temple and bigger than any Greek temple .
@RareTS2 жыл бұрын
@@ReallyNoAlex how so
@justinfleagle7 ай бұрын
As an engineer myself, you always 3x every estimate to your project manager. With that in mind, 3 - 5 billion is a safe estimate.
@13dove5 күн бұрын
The fact that no billionaire has done this yet just goes to show you that they don’t know how to spend their money
@m7rtim5324 күн бұрын
Or learn to estimate
@m7rtim5324 күн бұрын
Or learn to estimate
@raffayhussain6717Күн бұрын
There's absolutely no way this could ever cost 5 billion
@tomp5207Күн бұрын
Sounds like you are bad at estimating. I find I can bring projects in on budget rather than adding random 3x multipliers. I certainly wouldn’t hire you
@philliphartman23812 жыл бұрын
Carpenter here: I think the wide range is an accurate estimate. It will all depend on how true to the original it would be. I think if somebody wanted to build something that was the same scale as the original but that used thin slabs of finished stone to clad, ignored all modern building codes, and used sculptures that were just plaster casts of existing statues, you could do it for $150m or less. But once you start adding in things like electricity, stair height limitations, guard rails, sprinklers, alarms, elevators, ramps, automatic doors, authentic travertine, hand-crafted marble sculptures, parking spaces, sewage systems, storm drains, insurance, gold decorations, hand-chiseled signs...well...sky is the limit in terms of price.
@cartman2dk2 жыл бұрын
just transport of the marble and travertine would be millions of dollars.
@stephenkamps8925 Жыл бұрын
Roman emperor here: We do not care about the safety of the plebians and the plebians do not travel in vehicles that need parking. Thus, both shall be ignored. Also no electricity; we must stay true to the era. Nevertheless, spare no expenses with the statues.
@martinnolhaf3151 Жыл бұрын
@@stephenkamps8925 based and Emperor pilled!
@DrPeculiar312 Жыл бұрын
Carpenter here = opinion discarded. The marble facades alone would cost over $150m
@diegonatan63015 ай бұрын
@@DrPeculiar312 stop talking bulshit!
@AaronHahnStudios2 жыл бұрын
A lot of research and time went into this... well done, toldinstone. Excellent work.
@TetsuShima2 жыл бұрын
It is quite curious how the founding of the Colosseum was the only remarkable thing Titus did as Emperor, as the only other things he could do during his reign was trying to repair the massive damage from the eruption of Vesuvius and the Second Great Fire of Rome. Then, he just miserably died of fever shortly after the foundation of the Colosseum, making his disturbed brother Domitian (who also modified it by adding the hypogeum) the first Emperor to actually enjoy the gigantic amphiteatre
@alimanski79412 жыл бұрын
It all depends on perspective, of course. Titus was one of the most significant adversaries in Jewish history, having destroyed and looted Jerusalem and the Second Temple, while fighting the Jewish rebellion in Judea. Though, that all happened before he became Caesar.
@sdsd2e23212 жыл бұрын
@@alimanski7941 based
@DaDaDo6612 жыл бұрын
@@sdsd2e2321 Cyrus - 9mm, safety...always off. My old man gave it to me
@blakelowrey96202 жыл бұрын
@@DaDaDo661 safety always off
@TetsuShima2 жыл бұрын
@@alimanski7941 Unfortunely, people usually remember only what an Emperor did during his reign, not what he achieved before reaching that position
@xraceboyex2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful video, this will be the first time in a while that I've subscribed to a channel on the first video I saw. Kudos
@BarfyMan-sh3zf2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love this! The transportation of travertine blocks was mindblowing. It must have been a sight to behold seeing thousands of massive blocks being transported. When it was finished it probably felt like the Gods would be in attendance themselves. Could you imagine all that white marble shining in the sun and all those thousands of people filling the stands? Eventhough we live in the best (most comfortable) time in history, I often wish to have been born in a time like this. When I see these things I can certainly understand how people believed in miracles and godly emperors. How else can you build something so magnificent by hand without the blessing and favor of the Gods? Thank you again, you are my favorite youtuber by a mile!
@datadavis2 жыл бұрын
Pretty overwhelming odds that you are going to live out your days in a mudhut somewhere nowhere near the glory of rome. With my luck i would probably be born in siberia
@BarfyMan-sh3zf2 жыл бұрын
@@datadavis hahahahahaha thats true, the odds of a happy life are pretty much 0. Chances are that you die of an illness long before you reach adulthood. We are lucky to be living in such easy times!
@scholaroftheworldalternatehist2 жыл бұрын
Sure bud...very high chance you die in infant age due to some preventable disease we have vaccine for, or die due to dirty drinking water/injury, then live a life worse than the poorest people of Africa.
@Tokru862 жыл бұрын
Don't put so much emphasis on the sight of some blocks beeing transported. For the people of Rome this was daily business because the whole ancient city centre was build in this way. There was constant construction going on and while the number of blocks required for the Colosseum is remarkable the size of them is not. Marble columns (in on piece) erected for a new temple, giant sculptures moved to the numerous fora/pedestals, the occasional egyptian obelisk, all of that would have attracted a far bigger croud of onlookers than some generic blocks moving through the city in a steady stream over a few years.
@Apokalypse4562 жыл бұрын
@@Tokru86 its estimated that around 20% of all people alive lived in the roman empire in the second century AD
@Aaron-ed5xs Жыл бұрын
They built a modern sized stadium with no electricity, no power, and it effectively had running water. What a catastrophically impressive achievement. I wish to see it someday
@SnaketheJake872 жыл бұрын
I’m an engineering student currently. Despite the fact that this was another amazing video from you, it was really cool and enlightening seeing people (engineers) with experience doing basic cost analysis. Something I’ve struggled in my courses so far. Thanks for that.
@PathHits2 жыл бұрын
Can I just say real quickly I’m glad this video is blowing up because toldinstone fucking deserves it!
@pikXpixelart2 жыл бұрын
This truly is an interesting video! Both chapters could be A+ videos on their own (original labor, modern labor) but having both in one really makes this a groundbreaking video. Even if these are just rough estimates, I think it's a really interesting take on it.
@iamgermane2 жыл бұрын
An NFL stadium today costs about $2 billion US dollars.
@Joe-PrzybranowskiАй бұрын
Yeah this would cost way more than that.
@TomJakobW15 күн бұрын
@@Joe-Przybranowski why? There’s a lot of cost in an NFL stadium that wouldn’t be in a colosseum build and vv. I think the estimate is quite fine.
@alerto-wz8ti8 күн бұрын
@@Joe-PrzybranowskiNot really modern stadiums use way more modern materials that cost more including things such as steel etc, this is just bricks and concrete for the most part, the roof was a simple cloth not the billion dollar retractable roofs that we have in today's stadiums. I doubt it would cost much to build a replica and perhaps would be a profitable tourist attraction in the outskirts of Rome for example
@arthurfurniss41475 күн бұрын
@@alerto-wz8tiit’s travertine marble, which would be prohibitively expensive to build with today
@NLJeffEU3 күн бұрын
2 billion for such a wack game 😂
@T4NK092 жыл бұрын
Love your rebranding, the music you use at the end of your recent videos, and all your recent content! Keep it up Dr. Garrett!
@ToastyChud2 жыл бұрын
Yeah this guys videos are good.
@aaronandcaitlinnelson56172 жыл бұрын
The lego colosseum was a hilarious touch. Thanks to those who volunteered to help make the video, it was great!
@adrianghandtchi15622 жыл бұрын
Thank you Magnificus, Jim, and Tim for all they are fabulous estimates and hard work.
@nicksacco50412 жыл бұрын
Good to know; I was considering building one around my house, but it looks like I’ll have some extra for a moat too. How much would that cost?
@dosgos2 жыл бұрын
Special thanks to Magnificus, Tim Wilkinson, and Jim Williams for those detailed estimates. I suppose one could estimate the land cost in that area of Rome although the value of such a large prime space would likely be well above the cost of small plots. Modern costs from building the Gaudi Cathedral in Barcelona and the Cathedral in NYC on 112th street could be helpful to triangulate estimates.
@sergpie2 жыл бұрын
Nowadays, (central) Rome has some ridiculous real estate prices for plots/blocks. A building that used to be a ministry office, that’s about 55000 sqft, sold for €104,000,000. There’s a historic apartment building whose mere first floor, courtyard, and adjacent small office buildings are going for about €65,000,000. Rome isn’t cheap in the central portion of the city. Land there has been claimed and built upon for so long that parcels or buildings for sale are sold at an extreme premium.
@magnificus85812 жыл бұрын
Thanks, it was a fun exercise and appreciate being included!
@penjim2 жыл бұрын
Ha- thank you! It was fun to do for sure- Jim Williams
@lycaonpictus96622 жыл бұрын
I imagine another aspect that would make it difficult to make a 1:1 comparison between ancient Rome and a modern building project, is that the Romans might have used slaves for some of the unskilled labor that was involved.
@barath45452 жыл бұрын
You should ignore the land costs. The land was just taken or owned originally, so the replica argument should just be based on a field in random Italy or so.
@robpolaris72722 жыл бұрын
The ease that clearing an area with explosives and a bulldozer today is astounding. Needing hundreds of workers, working years what can be done by 2 people in a couple of weeks Is just amazing!
@augustgreig94202 жыл бұрын
I don't know if you've ever worked in construction, especially with concrete, brick and stone, whatever estimate you come to will never be accurate. Especially on a project this big, projects *ALWAYS* go over budget and almost always over time. That's just how it is. Same people think all contractors are crooks because if this, but in reality, there are always unforseen obstacles and set backs in a project, and the bigger the project, the greater the set backs. Anything from weather, injuries, stolen tools and materials, discovering the ground becomes far more difficult to dig six feet down,broken tools from the very small to very large. Just too many variables, and people tend to estimate optimistically because if the don't, some other company will come in and undercut any realistic bids.
@cracknigr60652 жыл бұрын
And the developers never looking for realistic bids but just CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP, until the next project ends up as a fucking ruin that soils the landscape. Grrrr. Just thinking about my time in the business already makes me so freaking angry again.
@badcornflakes63742 жыл бұрын
"Ballpark estimates"
@dickJohnsonpeter Жыл бұрын
@@badcornflakes6374 Scrumptious Darron
@KevinBReynolds2 жыл бұрын
Another fascinating video from Told In Stone. Thank you. As a manufacturing estimator for a good number of years, I can pretty much guarantee that you should double whatever estimates you have come up with. You can't just say "Okay, the stones costs this much, labor this much, engineering and architects this much, and put it together and have a good cost estimate. It just doesn't work that way. It may look good on paper but in reality things tend to happen rather differently. Somebody made a mistake, the numbers don't match, you better double check this and sooner rather than later, etc. Just go ahead and double whatever you've got.
@davepowell16612 жыл бұрын
Call it 'Trump Colosseum' and the contractors costs drop
@michaelv62902 жыл бұрын
Just wonderful how when you make videos with a specific narrative like this, it reveals so much about Roman history and life. Awesome video.
@giuliolupo2 жыл бұрын
In reality it would be enough to restore it, recovering the missing parts elsewhere. . In Italy there is an amphitheater, very large and built by the same architects of the Colosseum, which has the lower half practically new and above all preserves almost all the columns and the relative capitals that adorned the last ring, the women's gallery (Matroneo). It is the Flavian Amphitheater of Pozzuoli.
@christosvoskresye2 жыл бұрын
It is entirely possible that many of the recipients of your emails thought you were a student looking for someone to do his homework. I remember a similar assignment involving estimating the budget for moving the pyramids from a project management course.
@rolandnelson67223 ай бұрын
Even if toldinstone was a student it would be nice if he got a response.
@christosvoskresye3 ай бұрын
@@rolandnelson6722 Maybe, but the point of homework is for the student to actually do the work.
@markcasey25172 жыл бұрын
Fantastic. And brilliant that you couched it in estimates on assumptions. A great thought provoking exercise. Very cool.
@justinian-the-great2 жыл бұрын
It should be noted that to even get to building the actual Colosseum, a lot and I mean A LOT of pre-building job had to be done. First of all they had to clear the area for building. The area where Colosseum was to be built was actually already occupied by Nero's gigantic Domus Aurea (Golden House). So that monstrosity of a complex that spanned over multiple hills of Rome had to be demolished. Just the cost of demolishing it and then clearing the ruble must've been in millions of sesterces. Worse than that, the exact site where Colosseum was to be built is where Nero built a large indoor lake, which would have to be drained, which would probably be one of the hardest task in overall construction of the arena. Add in multiple smaller work that had to be done, like for example leveling the ground around Colosseum, and just the costs of pre-building would be enormous. Thus it's even harder to accurately measure the then building cost of the Colosseum.
@petlahk41192 жыл бұрын
I don't know really anything about Nero, but it sounds a bit like they may have destroyed his house and built a colosseum instead almost as a public works project? Like demolishing the mansions of the super rich because they're stupid assholes and building a park there instead lmfao.
@ionpopescu31672 жыл бұрын
This shows how capable people were even then. We are not really that much different huh
@absalomdraconis2 жыл бұрын
A lot of demolition work would have been involved, but they've actually found Nero's foundations under part or all of the Coliseum, and they might well have _used_ the infrastructure of the lake, since they actually had simulated sea battles inside the Coliseum early in it's history.
@nathancollins17152 жыл бұрын
@@petlahk4119 Oh, it wasn't just because he was rich. The rich were the ones who ordered the construction in the first place, and they DESPISED Nero. They hated him so much that to this day we aren't really sure which stories about him are true and which are outright fabrications, because the Senate and later Emperors' propaganda campaigns demonizing him were so effective that within a few generations everyone in the Empire was convinced that he was like Satan incarnate. Personally, I think that Nero was a mostly well-meaning, if short-sighted and and incompetent Emperor. He was at an obvious disadvantage because he was so young, and his overbearing mother basically made all his decisions for him in the early years of his reign. But he had a bit of a god complex (even greater than the healthy amount of god complex most Emperors had) and made impulsive decisions like abolishing all taxes everywhere, and of course beginning construction on a mile-long mansion in the heart of the city. He was the product of several generations of Julio-Claudians being totally removed from the everyday life of the citizens of Rome, and the Senate in particular saw him as a symbol of all the decadence and depravity of the Imperial experiment coming to a head. So, yeah. When Nero was assassinated and the Flavians took over, their first priority was damning the name of Nero (both because they actually hated him and as a political maneuver to concrete their own imperium) and wrecking all his stuff, which included the Golden House. Vespasian certainly wanted to create the image of a "populist reform" in planting a new stadium right where the Golden House used to be, but that doesn't mean he really held populist intentions. Like everything Emperors did, it was all about the positive PR.
@Tokru862 жыл бұрын
There would be nearly no demolition required. You said it yourself: The Colosseum was built at the site of the artificial lake specificially because the site was already cleared (for the lake obviously). The actual buildings of the Domus Aurea are still there underground in the area surrounding the Colosseum. The lake beeing artificial would have made draining it also very easy because they just had to cut off the supply of water and the lake would have drained itself trough the already present outflow very quickly.
@francocalvanochiesa9092 жыл бұрын
Thank you so very much for going through all that research and doing this very illuminating video. Ever since I’ve went to the coliseum for the first time (2002) I was overwhelmed by this magnificent building and the question had haunted me. Very much appreciated. If I ever get filthy rich, I’ll contact you and I’ll finance it. Cheers.
@magnificus85812 жыл бұрын
Great video! So curious to see the different estimates! Like I said, always get 3 estimates! Really appreciate your hard work!
@ferdi65942 жыл бұрын
Your estimate makes more sense to me. Even if labour cost increased, modern machinery should have a huge impact on the amount of labour required to both source and transport the materials.
@toldinstone2 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for your help!
@elchaposexcitingadventures16742 жыл бұрын
Tell us your cost overruns please.
@IceniTotalWar2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for helping out the channel, hope you found it interesting 👍👍
@cracknigr60652 жыл бұрын
Great contribution to this video mate! Sometimes I really like modern humans. :)
@derekofoma51202 жыл бұрын
Very well made video. I learned much more than I expected and it was very entertaining. Admittedly, I assumed productivity increases would decrease building costs much more than it did because we could build it in a fraction of the time with a fraction of the workers. Regardless, thank you for your time and effort.
@penjim2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the chance to help with this Garrett! I’m sure all three of us that contributed had a lot of fun! Now we just need a gofundme for the project!😂 Jim Williams
@toldinstone2 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for your help! I'm hoping than an eccentric billionaire will step in...
@Perririri2 жыл бұрын
Gofundme is generally a woke subsidisation scheme
@georgesteffey83752 жыл бұрын
Man I love this channel so much, great work toldinstone!
@N3onDr1v32 жыл бұрын
I just want to say how amazing the line " the turrets and battlements of a castle in the air" is.
@toldinstone2 жыл бұрын
I do what I can...
@manishjugran50212 жыл бұрын
seeing this effort for research is amazing
@theLetterDoubleYou2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff, especially the honesty about currency conversion over time. I've been seeing a lot of bad economic history on KZbin lately on the subject. Thanks again!
@CODXxGODZxX2 жыл бұрын
Very cool stuff. I love these type of videos and shoutout to those guys who helped you out.
@kray38832 жыл бұрын
I think you vastly underestimated the cost of hiring contractors... I'm a federal contractor (not in construction) and normally our billing rate is approximately 3x our actual pay.
@Nick-zw1zw7 ай бұрын
Yes I'm a contractor in Canada abd we charge about 2.2-2.8x the actual pay of the workers involved.
@danknight19792 жыл бұрын
A question we did not ask, a question we needed the answer.
@carleslazaro61172 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, as always, I only miss the cost of the project of the engineering team. I guess it must have been a tiny part of the total cost, but today it would certainly inflate the budget a lot. Commenting on the video with an architect friend while we have a few beers, he tells me that he would charge 10% of the total project. He has no idea of the rates of 1st century Roman engineers or architects. But if you’re really interested in building a replica of the Colosseum, Dr. Ryan, I can invite him over for a couple more beers and I’m sure we can get to 5 or 6% of the total. I really love this kind of videos, thanks you and cheers!
@Ugly_German_Truths2 жыл бұрын
Biggest Part of 1st century Salary would probably be being left alive ;)
@magnificus85812 жыл бұрын
The direction for calculating budget was to leave off soft costs such as permits and design. If that had been included, roughly 10% of the budget for the design team, perhaps a little less due to the simplicity of the design (geometric and repetitive)
@jayson83722 жыл бұрын
Pause at 5:58; could you imagine walking down that hallway with the stands filled with cheering spectators? Amazing!
@alecsteven62 жыл бұрын
I thought this video was one of your best and most captivating videos to date. I've really been loving your content lately. Thank you and keep up the good work!
@ChimpityChoo2 жыл бұрын
@toldinstone - I purchased your book last year and have no intention of accessing it via audible. I'm just curious of whether the book is read by you, or contracted to a professional audiobook reader.
@toldinstone2 жыл бұрын
It was contracted - my publisher sold the audio rights.
@faithlesshound56212 жыл бұрын
A recent project on a similar scale was the replica of St Peter's Cathedral in Rome built by the late dictator of the Ivory Coast in his home town. I believe they used modern materials and machinery and did not take a century to finish it. Do we know anything about the cost and where he got the skilled artisans?
@Aristocles222 жыл бұрын
Basilica. St. Peter's Basilica. It's not a cathedral. The Basilica of Our Lady of Peace in Ivory Coast is not as large as the one in Vatican City, and it's nowhere near as elaborate. Just look at them in a pair of pictures side-by-side and you'll see they aren't even that close.
@faithlesshound56212 жыл бұрын
@@Aristocles22 According to Wikipedia, the basilica in Yamoussoukro is the largest church in the world. The dome is twice the diameter of St Peter's, but it is not as high since the base is lower.
@Aristocles222 жыл бұрын
@@faithlesshound5621 Wikipedia lists St. Peter's as larger. Look up the list of largest church buildings there.
@faithlesshound56212 жыл бұрын
@@Aristocles22 I suppose it depends on which WP page you look at. Unfortunately, many people enjoy poisoning the wells there, so it's never certain what is true or just made up for amusement.
@VINTERIUM..EXPLORIUM.14 ай бұрын
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@mcaste84952 ай бұрын
Absolutely love your content. Great video. Thank you.
@jeremiahcutright812 жыл бұрын
Garrett, I read your book Naked Statues, Fat Gladiators and War Elephants last week. literally insanely well written and your story telling skills are so impressive. Sometimes reading non fiction can feel like a chore but I was not bored or uninterested at any point while reading it. Keep up the great work and thanks for everything you're doing here! Also if you see this comment, I'm curious if you've read "The Immortality Key" or are familiar with Brian Muraresku's work and what you think about all of that.
@toldinstone2 жыл бұрын
I'm very glad you enjoyed my book! I haven't read "The Immortality Key" - yet. To be honest, I'm deeply suspicious of the central thesis, but I'd have to read it to give you a genuine assessment.
@yb67152 жыл бұрын
One of the best videos that I listened in KZbin.
@ryz82 жыл бұрын
this is a question that i've asked myself nearly every day. thanks for the video sir.
@elijahgrocock61642 жыл бұрын
"The turrets and battlements of a castle in the air", beautifully said sir, great content.
@michaelvisconti8692 жыл бұрын
As always a great video . Now if a replica was built where would be the best place to build one ? My choice would be outside of Las Vegas . Where would be your ideal place to build it ?
@tomcollins51122 жыл бұрын
Vegas would be too hot. As far as climate goes, you can't beat San Diego.
@ReubenClough3 ай бұрын
“god” bless this man for his extreme nerdiness…..it means that we get facts and very educated guesses instead of sensational nonsese….I Love it!
@ShieldAre2 жыл бұрын
This is an interesting back-of-the-envelope estimate, or a Fermi estimate. It might even be surprisingly accurate, because often when people make assumptions, they will overestimate one thing, and underestimate another, and in a happy coincidence these mistakes will often cancel each other out. If the assumptions are anywhere near to being correct, the real cost for building a replica of the Colosseum is almost certainly somewhere within an order of magnitude of one billion dollars. Perhaps something between 3 billion and 300 million, for example. That is a wide range, but still very useful in giving us some idea of the scale of the project. It tells us whether building a Colosseum-replica would be an astounding mega-project that only a major country could be able to do, or whether it is something that your average billionaire could build as some sort of personal project, or whether even some relatively wealthy multi-millionaire could afford it on a whim. A price tag of 3 billion max would mean that a major country could easily afford to build one just as easily as any other large stadium, that there are indeed a fair number of multi-billionaires who could probably afford to single-handedly finance the cost of building one, but that it would probably be out of the price range of even a hundred-millionaire.
@denominator208Ай бұрын
Great analysis! Thank you for this informative video.
@Dannykhc2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting topic to ponder over. Speaking as a former quantity surveyor on the contractor side, perhaps a more reliable estimate would have been possible if there were a good set of general building plans along with the structural drawings to enable quantities to be "taken off" (using UK quantity surveying jargon) by a QS. That would allow a common basis for estimates of the total contract sum by contractors and consultants and subsequent tender comparison. If contractors are perhaps worried about any errors in quantities, perhaps the contract could be done on a remeasurement basis that would better allay their fears. From my experience, most of the delays and therefore additional cost in a project arise from construction work to do with the ground such poor ground conditions, underground obstructions, hard material, unforeseen utilities, water seepage into the excavation, etc, Once the substructure is completed, unless there are labour shortages and materials shortages, there is really nothing that will further obstruct a main contractor on the superstructure apart from incompetence in project management and foot dragging by the client over variations. Further cost and time savings could be had by using Building Information Modelling BIM for planning of the construction process and greater use of precast concrete elements made off-site. Talking about the substructure, if the Colosseum is built today using modern techniques, it would be reasonable to assume that it would use diaphragm walls for support for the substructure. That would be a site to behold, a massive excavation held up by diaphragm walls along with a great quantity of temporary works. Great video.
@InstallaFriend11 ай бұрын
Starting with a budget of £50bn: £100bn in planning and research, £100bn to lay the groundwork and £100bn to mysteriously vanish when the project is cancelled.
@IvoryOasis2 жыл бұрын
It's sad organizations and education institutions didn't reply to you.... your one video exposes more people to these issues than they do in their lifetimes.
@windowsxp91202 жыл бұрын
10:33 idk why but the comedic timing of your face reaction here is just so funny.
@QuantumHistorian2 жыл бұрын
Do we also have estimates of: Imperial yearly revenues, and total GDP for the reign of Titus? Would be interesting to compare the cost of the Colosseum to these, to see how much of a strain it was on the state/the country.
@toldinstone2 жыл бұрын
Stay tuned...I have a video on the GDP of the Roman Empire planned for the relatively near future.
@leolego22 жыл бұрын
In those years and even partly now spending money on public infrastructure meant that the economy would go around more and benefit the workers. Much better to waste money that way than to invest it in a war where money did not come back if you lost
@danielkrcmar53952 жыл бұрын
I read somewhere that the purchasing power of gold has stayed roughly the same since the Roman era, if you can convert to gold and then adjust that could be a roughly accurate estimate.
@scottishbarnss2 жыл бұрын
Could you do a similar video on the cost of Hagia Sophia and if that cost the eastern Romans the chance to re-conquer the Italian peninsula from the barbarians?
@aka992 жыл бұрын
Good Point! I Would like to Know that too
@welcome7632 жыл бұрын
I think that since there were several exclusions from the pricing, ie. paying architects to design the building alone. Any setbacks would drive up costs as well
@samaraortega212 жыл бұрын
I always look forward to your videos, I love your book 📕 perfect reading
@jlwilder84362 жыл бұрын
Wow/your videos are kind of amazing and not what I was expecting. I am so intrigued by all of it and have found myself daydreaming lately about this magnificent world that existed in the Roman Empire, that I don't know if I've seen anywhere else bring it to life quite the same. 🙂
@Synochra Жыл бұрын
You honestly always come up with the most interesting and entertaining scenarios.
@oldworldchris41872 жыл бұрын
Very good analysis, sounds spot on to me!
@automaticmattywhack14702 жыл бұрын
I'm going to go with Magnificus. No modern amenities like wiring, lighting, air conditioning ducts, etc. Plus no modern safety equipment like fire suppression, fire escapes, etc.
@johndododoe14112 жыл бұрын
Lots of ductwork for water chilling and perfume though. Lots of hand cranked ventilation fans above the seating aeea.
@Waffles2-1072 жыл бұрын
Wow, I’m so impressed with just how smart the ppl in the comments are. Such massive intellects and great wealths of knowledge. You all deserve a round of applause. Thank you so much for sharing your off the charts IQ with the world. What would we do without you. It’s so amazing that so many intellectual anomaly’s have come together in the same comment section.
@theobserver91312 жыл бұрын
Obviously a reflection of the creator of the channel. There are a number of channels that do the same thing, so refreshing after slogging through the cesspool of the majority!
@AndystanSmith2 жыл бұрын
Unskilled laborers were priced at $65 an hour. Why is that so high?
@samshare21462 жыл бұрын
Thank you for an excellent analytical analysis for what the Colosseum might cost to build today. I agree, as you surmised, that some things might be done cheaper due to modern technology while other parts might be more expensive due to higher labor cost. But, in order for someone to make the Colosseum today with the modern amenities and internal structure required to pass code, it will likely be much more expensive. The most expensive arenas/stadia of today are far more expensive than the high estimate given in your video. In fact, there are 10 that have cost at least $1b or more. It would be an impressive and monumental task if one should ever decide to build a new Colosseum. As for me...I am happy with the Lego version. It fits nicely in my study across from the Lego Taj Mahal...
@djolley612 жыл бұрын
You've indirectly taught a great lesson in economics. Human labor has always been expensive. Today's human labor is very much more expensive, but is far, far more productive than 2000 years ago. This is why a modern brick layer can live better today than a king could 2000 years ago.
@faithlesshound56212 жыл бұрын
Adam Smith said something similar about the relative standard of living of a British working man in the 18th century compared to an African king of his own time. The key to how they felt about it, however, is that both then and two millennia ago the kings had far more power and control and were visibly better off than the labourers. What matters to a lot of people is not how high their standard of living is in absolute terms, but how it compares to everybody else.
@californiaplant-basedeater27612 жыл бұрын
The whole typical comparing the standard of living argument is always lacking the fact that many working class people (in the US, for example) are often a paycheck or two from being kicked out into the street. That kind of dread and mental weight does not allow one to live better than kings and queens, along with the subjugation of being underlings at various awful workplaces and much more ills of modern day society. A lot of it is overcomeable. A lot is also not... not to the extent that one can be as comfortable as a king with servants. Not that that is necessary to have happiness.
@sternamc919sterna32 жыл бұрын
The best stone masons were never underpaid. Some were and have been very powerful and their associations and brotherhood had political influence. Some even funded the careers of famous politicians. That is a well kept secret😉
@Aninkovsky2 жыл бұрын
With Caesar III or Pharaoh game simulation, we can guess that building an outstanding monument is something, not an issue of just constructing it. The stressful phase is opening a new query, enlarging an old one, transporting materials, etc which can be very problematic and added cost astronomically.
@zop572 жыл бұрын
The Roman’s didn’t see things as impossible. They thought “how do we make it possible?”
@robinsydney1402 жыл бұрын
Great video! So well researched! Thank you for a job well done and the time and effort!
@Arakox5 ай бұрын
$1 billion 13:45
@hughjanus71314 ай бұрын
Thanks bro
@casualyoutubeviewer91982 ай бұрын
Mr. Did not watch the video. Theres multiple answers because we cannot translate Roman currency to USD.
@kartikkumar8470Ай бұрын
Thanks for spoiling the video asshole
@sawdusty8214Ай бұрын
Thanks, you just saved me 13 minutes that I can waste elsewhere on KZbin.
@ArakoxАй бұрын
@@sawdusty8214 you are so welcome
@jonathanjochem72892 жыл бұрын
I'm curious how different the building standards or codes, if they existed, were. Did they have fire codes or emergency exits, for example?
@SevenPr1me2 жыл бұрын
Oh I bet workers died all the time and everyone just considered it a normal part of the job. I bet everyone learned to be super careful
@Tokru862 жыл бұрын
They sort of did. Maybe not on the scale of today. But for instance after the great fire in Rome 64 AD there were strict regulations on how to rebuild the houses. Streets had to be a certain width so that buildings weren't as close together and had to fulfill some other criterias like no wooden construction in the first 1 or 2 stories. As for the emergency exits: They did not build spaces expecially for that but the overall movement inside the building was carefully controlled to maximize throughput of people. To reach specific seats you had to taka a specific entrance and a specific staircase. Practically all modern stadiums use the exact same principle to handle the giant crowds of people because it barelly can be even more optimized than it already was 2000 years ago.
@jonathanjochem72892 жыл бұрын
@@Tokru86 That's really interesting. A little frightening that they were that sophisticated and we lost all that for how long? Makes you wonder if we could lapse into dark ages?
@zahrafayyaz95392 жыл бұрын
I don’t know how they treated workers. But in terms of quality of the work, would any of the finest today’s buildings last for 2000 years? I don’t think so
@joshuapatrick68210 ай бұрын
Did you genuinely expect a response from the joke that is our modern academic system? They have no desire to engage in thought experiments but to buddy up to corporations and government bureaucracy to increase the department’s budget
@munkittytunkitty2 жыл бұрын
What fascinating questions and what brilliant research you undertook in order to answer them :)
@PakaBubi2 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile in China: hold my beer
@chopin65Күн бұрын
Go away.
@yeeticus_maximus9616 Жыл бұрын
I think Tennessee should be the place to build a new colosseum. We’ve got a weird obsession with antiquity in this state idk why. We’ve got several classical names for cities like Athens, Sparta, Lebanon, Antioch, Memphis (which literally has a pyramid in it), we refer to multiple of our stadiums as colosseums, and we built a replica of the Parthenon over a century ago in Nashville that’s still standing
@chasethebase59862 жыл бұрын
3 to 8 billion if unions did the work!
@robertyoung42752 жыл бұрын
Travertine is a form of limestone, so it's pretty soft, geologically speaking. But when it comes out of the ground, it's really soft, so it's really easy to cut and work while it's fresh, which is one of the reasons the Romans preferred it as a facing material.
@dangermouse93482 жыл бұрын
Fascinating video, I really enjoyed it. Thanks.
@BritishBeeMan2 жыл бұрын
The entire putter surface was covered in marble too. You only mentioned interior seats? Did you include the outer facing too?
@cnc-beginner7 ай бұрын
Mathematician here, with no idea of Engineering. But: from Germany, all big projects (Berlin airport, Stuttgart metro revamp, etc) cost at the end 5 to 10 times more than initial estimations, estimations which were done by professionals by the way. Infact, comparing with NotreDame , France, where the roof and some parts have to be rebuilt, it will cost all in all about less than 1billion Euros. Comparing with the size of the Colosseum, I would pretend, the Colosseum would cost 5 billions. So I believe you ve got from far the best estimation. On the other side, Magnificus with all his knowledge - that I do not have - gives us quite a ridiculous estimation, but thank you in all cases Magnificus! As always, love your channel PS: would like to see Magnificus use his methodolody to estimate the cost of NotreDame roof rebuilt. Then we would be able to compare with the real costs. My guess: Magnificus would estimate the cost at 30 millions ( its full Colosseum costs 150.000.000), considering the respective sizes. But the real cost is about 1billion, so a factor 30. Applying this factor gives us for the Colosseum: 4.5 Billions!
@jeremiahlyleseditor4372 жыл бұрын
did you factor in the trap doors and other moving portions of the structure?
@lonewulf442 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, as usual. I have to say, being from Indiana and specifically what we still claim as the limestone capital of the world, I'm very disappointed in my fellow Hoosiers for not responding to your request.
@dylanreynolds43342 жыл бұрын
Hi Dr. Ryan, I bought “Naked Statues, Fat Gladiators, and War Elephants” the other day and a thought came to mind. What platform that sells your book supports yourself, your channel, and your work the most? I got the book from Amazon as it was most convenient. Seeing how all platforms likely take a piece of the pie, is there one that takes less of a piece so more goes to you and your work?
@andrasfogarasi50142 жыл бұрын
Improper surveying of the area would necessitate that the foundations be relaid 4 months after the beginning of construction. A quarter of the material would turn out to be substandard after delivery. Government regulation would change 1 year in, resulting in the plans needing to change once again. The workers would regularly steal gasoline from the vehicles. Equipment would become damaged after a freak storm. Several work safety violations would lead to a string lawsuits. The investors would hurry the construction along the entire way, resulting in a variety of planning errors. The architect would have a nervous breakdown and quit. No matter how much money you give it, the project would end up 7 years behind schedule and 11 times over-budget before being cancelled.
@lukeprowse32152 жыл бұрын
In really enjoyed this video. Thanks.
@ososkid6 ай бұрын
As a construction project manager, who works on homes and not large scale projects, I think your first guy, Magnificus, who accounted for a lack of modern amenities bringing costs down, was on to something. At the other end of the spectrum was Jim Williams who put a lot of thought into his proposal, but what he gave you was the budget he was going to open negotiations with, fully knowing he’s not getting that budget
@KingNik19942 жыл бұрын
An amazing video, like all of yours I've watched. Keep making interesting content :)
@MattReady2 жыл бұрын
Please do this for simple single stone megaliths like Baalbek. What would it cost to get 2 or 3 of those positioned nicely somewhere.
2 жыл бұрын
Can you do similar calculations for great pyramid? And using our current technologies, how long does it take to build one. Thanks in advice.
@peksn2 жыл бұрын
When you showed the picture of the Colosseum in its current state, it was sad to see how we just put roads all around it, it may just be my spanish mind, but imagine how good it would have been if there had been a huge plaza around it, where little kids could play football or tag with their friends as I did when I was young while their parents watched over from a bench, couples could hold hands and walk around the magnificent proof of humanity's prowess, groups of friends could lay down in grass while having picnics to eat there while listening to their music or just talking amongs themselves. I really expected such an important place to be a lot more walk-visit focused. I am kind of sad it is not.
@Picollo860847 Жыл бұрын
As far as I know, it was Mussolinis fault, he built some streets around the Colosseum and even erased the left foundation of the big statue which stood there and gave the Colosseum it's name.
@_lithp Жыл бұрын
The fact that it cost the same as a modern stadium just blows my mind. I can't believe wealth of this magnitude was even possible back then.
@MIKEMAKESTHINGS2 жыл бұрын
I don't know of any construction project that actually came in at the estimated price. Usually, you have cost over runs and the project winds up costing double or more and takes twice the time originally thought. Making the statues would be difficult. Finding craftsmen to hand carve them would be difficult, so CNC would make sense.