Tom Baker "On Set"

What Tom Baker was like to Work with, Including interviews with Lalla Ward and Other members of the production team

[@leokimvideo]

Tom Baker was the best Dr Who, because he cared about the script & story

[@generalawareness101]

He was my Dr. with whom I grew up with. To this day I still love those episodes, as well as Tom Baker.

[@zerocool527]

Exactly

[@eddiegaltek]

I started with Jon Pertwee; but by the end of Robot it was as if Tom had always been The Doctor.

[@generalawareness101]

@@eddiegaltek I didn't watch him until much later, and I liked him, but what hurt him so much was that he was grounded as a punishment. No more interstellar adventures hurt it for me. The Drs (and Doctors) I love the most is 4, 2, 3, 10, 11, 12. The absolute worst for me is #6 as I still can't stand him. #13 Killed the franchise for me, so the last Doctor is 12 for me and the series passed.

[@semajttam]

And ultimately, the programme itself. And The Doctor

[@44excalibur]

I've heard that Tom Baker himself admitted that he became withdrawn and moody after Elisabeth Sladen left the show, so he obviously missed her. Louise Jamison did feel as if Baker was treating her badly during her first season, but she would later confront him about it and their working relationship did improve in her next and final season with Baker. But Mary Tamm and Lalla Ward clearly did not have any problems with Baker, as Tamm got along quite well with him and Ward fell in love with him.

[@coloneljackmustard]

Yes, I have a long time ago. I think I'll re-watch it sometime as it was damn good...

[@44excalibur]

@lex mota Well, Tom was already done with the show by then and was about to leave anyway.

[@44excalibur]

@Ravern Noir No, but thanks for letting me know. 😉

[@zaniac100]

@Ravern Noir Reckon that was a stand-in. Note the crosscutting to nude body no face to closeups of Mary's face. In another shot hair covers the face in a nude shot.

[@PredictedCyborg]

Lalla didn't have problems with him at first, but their divorce led to them not being able to be around each other for a good long while. ^^; So not really problems while on the show together, but afterwards... think they've somewhat patched it up now but I'm not 100% sure.

[@count69]

"I could waggle my ducks?" "No, don't waggle your ducks" "Don't waggle my ducks?"

[@L1ttl3J1m]

"No, you'll frighten the horses."

[@josefschiltz2192]

@@L1ttl3J1m Does duck waggling frighten horses? Hm. Then, henceforth, I will advise all the local horses never to approach any waggling ducks . . upon fear that they may fright or offend!

[@eddiegaltek]

@@josefschiltz2192 Everything frightens horses.

[@josefschiltz2192]

@@eddiegaltek Living amongst them for sixty years - oh! - of that I'm aware!

[@jasondecharleroy4161]

Those that waggle their ducks in mixed company are often compelled to make restitution with substantial monetary remuneration and/or lengthy community service

[@brianjlevine]

Tom innately understood the Doctor and wasn't afraid to speak up for him.

[@Beegeezy144]

I can't wait to read Tom Baker's book, Scratchman. They say that it's from the first person perspective of the Doctor, and you get to see inside the Doctor's mind the way only Tom Baker can show us. Everyone says it's great.

[@ngNudraconis]

re-watching this one. Uhm I think its fair enough. His entire life had been a tragedy, so much sadness that he wanted to run away from the past, to make a change. And when he finally got his chance of a life time which was Dr Who, he didn't simply try his best, he gave it his life, everything.

[@geordiewalker2102]

Tom Baker really is one of the most fascinating human beings on the planet, he's done amazing things considering where he started.

[@flashy5150]

Well, if he gave it his life, he obviously"gave it everything" lol

[@BRAWGWill]

Tragedy?

[@sheep3370]

That does not excuse bring a dick to people who don't deserve it

[@loggior.speedweed4345]

G Dog Gaming well over 550 seem to disagree. I suggest you background check the crew and studio before shooting your mouth, hm?

[@Schizophaith]

I think there came a point where Tom Baker knew that character inside and out, and took it VERY seriously. When you've been doing something a long time and you know your business, and then someone comes along and says "do this" You fight for what you believe in. The scripts had a very slow decline after Liz left and then a rapid decline by the time Adric came around. It wore on him.I can say Baker has an ego, but I wouldn't say he was a dick for protecting his art and the character/show.

[@darthknight1]

Same thing happened with Hartnell when William Russell and Jacqueline Hill left. John Wiles and Donald Tosh made life difficult for Maureen O'Brien and Hartnell became protective of his last connection to the early lineup. They fired Maureen for fighting for her character and Hartnell threatened to quit shortly afterwards. He won out because the BBC rightly understood that Hartnell was more important to the show at the time than a director and a script writer that were trying to reinvent the wheel after Verity Lambert had exited. It is very interesting to see the similarities between two of the best doctors and how passionate they were about their character and the show.

[@geoffberesford]

If any actor has no ego, what is there to motivate them to perform at all?

[@abrahamminky]

I could waggle my ducks ,Tom Baker was winding them up,and they didnt know it lol ,love Tom Baker,best doctor ever.

[@fucheduck]

at least he didn't have a celery stick saying that.

[@zaniac100]

Well they obviously did realise it was a send-up. That's why the deadpan "no don't waggle your ducks" comes back instantly. They know it is a send up and they are having none of it. They even repeat the words to highlight that.

[@littleripper312]

That part shows exactly the kind of people he was stuck working with. Imagine working in a creative environment with these bricks?

[@nateriver1884]

I think we are being a bit critical about a stressful time we were never a part of. I think they're all tired and they're all joking. One of the men even replied 'itll frighten the horses'. And yes they're saying it dead pan, they're British, that's our humour

[@theyellowlightsaber3193]

Tom was trolling before trolling was a thing, he was constantly taking the piss with everyone.

[@Sunshine-zm1fx]

Tom Baker was not self-centered or egotistical. He simply loved his role and the show and didn't like seeing it go downhill after Elisabeth left. There is a huge difference between acting like a diva and caring about a show you're involved in. He wasn't trying to get more for himself. He was trying to get more for the show.

[@DemetriusSorvo]

I think it would have been more when Philip Hinchcliffe left. Also, I don't really think the show went downhill, but it did change flavour.

[@c0nvict_pleb174]

@@DemetriusSorvo it was more when JNT took over (oh boy)

[@c0nvict_pleb174]

@Ben G no it was because he was sick and tired of JNT telling him that how to do things all the time and the direction he was taking the show

[@c0nvict_pleb174]

@Ben G fair enough. But Tom never strikes me as a self-absorbent guy

[@c0nvict_pleb174]

@Ben G just doesn’t seem like one

[@lDrownded2]

Is it wrong that this makes me like T. Baker even more?

[@colinmcphan]

Not at all. I'm not condoning all of Toms behaviour but he had some excellent points and was civil and fine in the way he would suggest ideas. Even Lalla admits he was never rude to his fellow co-stars. What seemed to piss Tom off more then anything else was the quality of some of the scripts.

[@geordiewalker2102]

And that's a generous admission from Lalla, considering they used to be married...

[@UnchainedEruption]

Linda Taylor Can't blame him, he did get some fairly awful scripts to work with later in his run. Seasons 15 and 16 in particular, were rather bad.

[@UnchainedEruption]

Marc Norton It suits his character perfectly. He always assumes command in every situation that he's in. If the other people are screwing around, he won't mind being a jerk, but he must protect the sanctity of the character above all else.

[@fucheduck]

no! some writers today truly do SUCK they need the TB treatment

[@KevinJonDavies]

"I could waggle my ducks" :)

[@lapelcelery42]

"No, don't do that. It'll frighten the horses."

[@DTD110865]

Which season did that scene take place in?

[@GhostLightPhilosophy]

I like an actor who makes sure that their voice is heard and doesnt just read lines to get a paycheck

[@krishnan-resurrection714]

..it will be tragic if they put a young black in the Role ....😵‍💫

[@MorshuGaming]

@Krishnan -Resurrection Now how is that tragic?

[@pissedinyourcornflakes2939]

​@krishnan-resurrection714 you're going to be very upset this November something tells me

[@swanvictor887]

The last clip, oddly in black and white (?) showed Tom trying his very best to make a great show! He was suggesting improvements and adding value, as was Mary: this is why you want to hire good actors! He took the role seriously and was utterly superb. Compare him to the trainwreck of the last three years and ...Her....

[@63DW89A]

Your assessment of Tom Baker is accurate I feel. And I agree Tom's not "mean" he's just "different". Elisabeth Sladen loved working with Tom, as she makes clear in her autobiography. Tom adored her, because she was "so nice to him" and she solidly supported him right from the start. That's why he was so devastated when she left WHO. He now admits to becoming "moody and withdrawn" when she left, and that's why he treated poor Louise Jameson so terribly at first.

[@colinmcphan]

I think you said it PERFECTLY! Liz, Barry Letts, Dave Maloney, Ian Marter and Philip Hinchcliffe all really loved Tom, knew how talented he was and respected Tom immensely. Then they all started leaving him. Considering how little respect and love Tom received early in life that had to have made him feel appreciated, loved and supported. We all need that. God bless.😀

[@bohenmerchant1]

Kind of like Jon Pertwee. He was devastated when Roger Delgado died and Katy Manning left the show

[@Skoora]

Leela was his Jason Newsted taking over from Cliff (Liz)

[@Skoora]

It was his biting wit and volatility that made his portrayal the best. I know they were probably written but the amount of hilarious quips and asides he says in the dialog, I have to feel a few were improvised.

[@63DW89A]

Anyone else ever notice that Tom's "bad" reputation did not start until after Elisabeth Sladen left? And Tom's tantrums began almost immediately after HAND OF FEAR. First, he didn't want a companion, then he didn't like the Leela character, and was constantly rude to Louise Jamison on set. You can see the uncomfortable, almost fearful expression on Lalla Ward's face in these clips. It appears Lis Sladen's influence somehow kept Tom stable for almost 2 1/2 years. Just an observation...

[@elthionel]

Not that it was Louise Jamison's fault, but she was the '7 of 9' solution to Doctor Who -- brought in a character to sex the show up a bit, and Tom resented it immensely. Wasn't the actress' fault, and he should have realized that (in the same way Kate Mulgrew came to terms with Jeri Ryan) but you went from a plucky independent spirited investigative journalist to a stereotypic primitive in minimal clothing.

[@krishnan-resurrection714]

to me the classic partnership is Louise and Tom . .. ..

[@animationfanatic2133]

@@elthionel I didn't come here for a voyager reference but by god I'm glad I got one

[@ShiningFriendship87]

@63DW89A “There is no other way of describing it,” he says. “Elisabeth and I, we were intuitive together. She was just marvelous.” At Panopticon in 1993, Tom Baker told fans that he fell deeply in love with Lis, but could never admit his feelings for her because she was married. After Lis left the show, Tom was completely heartbroken. He would sing “I Wonder Who’s Kissing Her Now” by Perry Como to himself and was harsh towards her replacement, Louise Jameson. “I was cold with her,” he recalls. “It was mean of me. To be cold was terrible; giving into my grief like that.” I’ve heard Louise confronted Tom over his mistreatment of her and now they’re really good friends. However, it’s obvious that Tom’s working relationships on the show were never the same after Elisabeth Sladen left.

[@63DW89A]

I think you are correct that Tom can be a bit self-centered. Now, if you carefully watch all the Season 12-14 stories with Tom & Lis Sladen, it is pretty obvious that Tom doesn't get the spotlight most of the time. If anything, Tom & Lis are very much a double act who work superbly well together, & the 2 of them is a main reason that era is so fondly remembered. Tom adored Lis Sladen, and that probably moved him away from being self-centered in those stories with her.

[@trevorphillipsgtav8500]

I can definetely see where Tom's coming from. Because first of all he was angry about the bad scripts from Dr Who. Second of all he was angry at the directors and how they direct actors is probably in the sense from where he's coming from, because he loved playing the Doctor. Then thirdly, he didn't like how the costume was changed with the burgandy costume, plus the question marks as well, which has pushed Tom to leave the series because he didn't get along with JNT the producer and how they've drastically changed it. Phillip Hinchcliffe, Liz Sladen and a few actors supporting Tom Baker were the only ones who kept him happy for 2/3 years. And it was saddening that Liz passed away about 4 years ago. That definetely caused a great pain in Tom Baker and they were totally a companion pair for the Doctor Who series for 3 years before she left Doctor Who. She was a great actress and a brilliant character of the famous Sarah Jane Smith. Best companion pair ever.

[@colinmcphan]

Great assessment. Tom normally was a pretty happy go lucky guy and usually got on with all his fellow actors, made visiting actors feel very welcomed, was generous with screen time and got on, in the first few years, wonderfully well with Hinchcliffe and the Directors and writers. Then his Doctor Who family starting leaving him and he didn't know how to express that pain except thru fustration, drinking and anger at times. In those days to the BBC looked at actors as property and a way to make money. Tom made them money but his human needs were not important to them. Plus the people that he felt closest to were all leaving almost at the same time.

[@ShockwaveEntertainment]

Actually Tom really liked the burgandy outfit, he just couldn't stand the question marks. He talks about it at a convention that's on KZbin somewhere

[@eurodara]

well, he didn't like Louise Jamieson (I hope I wrote her name properly) at first but with time they got along

[@colinmcphan]

+Gabriela Piechowicz Actually Tom didn't dislike Louise. It was more that Tom loved Liz, was grateful how at ease she made him feel (poor guy was nervous as hell when he joined Doctor Who and Pertwee's cold attitude towards Tom didn't help any) when he started in the role and Tom and Liz had forged a great on set friendship. Tom and Liz had the same sense of humor and shared some of the same interests which they could talk endlessly about. They simply adored one another. Like a kid losing his best friend he didn't want anyone to take her place. Once Louise talked to Tom he realized how he was coming off, told her everything was okay and they became friendly. Now of course Louise says Tom makes her laugh, is someone she feels totally comfortable in confiding with and adores him as he doas her. She said a few years back that she wishes she had stayed longer now. Interesting ☺

[@UnchainedEruption]

Yeah, Tom, like the viewers, probably remembered the way the show used to be, and like us it's logical to assume he would also be fed up of the lousy scripts and directors who don't know what they're doing. The change in costume was also unnecessary, and I didn't like it.

[@flippinecc]

What's the problem? He was usually right.

[@ngNudraconis]

yup. Upvote!

[@flippinecc]

...but whatever you do, Tom...don't waggle your ducks...

[@colinmcphan]

+flippinecc I love when Tom waggles his Ducks! 😆😆😆

[@doloreshuntoon7698]

Quack-quack-quack!!!

[@MobiusBandwidth]

now I want to get some ducks just so I can waggle them.

[@63DW89A]

From the Tom Baker web-site, in his OCT 2009 Newsletter on the death of Barry Letts, Tom says, "I had no idea how to approach the part. I just turned up and did my turn and Elisabeth Sladen was pleased and so was Barry...And I always think of Liz Sladen with such tender memories for the confidence she had in me. We had such a happy time together." Elisabeth Sladen was a star when Tom was an unknown in the long shadow of Jon Pertwee. Her support made him successful.

[@mj2625]

I wish that some of the newer actors (and hopefully the new actress) would take action against some of the rather subpar writing and direction in the show. Maybe that's why Baker was able to stick around as long as he did.

[@littleripper312]

Like the poor 13th doctor right now...

[@KRAFTWERK2K6]

This is probably one of the BIGGEST Reasons why tom was in the show for that long. He could make his point and prevented the show from turning into crap. He had the right feeling about the role and the show.

[@lewiskazinsky7334]

Christopher Ecclestone tried to protest against executive meddling and left as a result. I think the BBC had far less corporate involvement in the 1970s. Nowadays they create shows by committee.

[@zuzumontague]

Baker stuck around up until the Beginning of the JNT era. JNT didn’t put up with Tom‘s behavior and pretty much ran Tom off the show. After that, Doctor Who went to shit…

[@deuce5546]

@ Never seen a more evident self-like than yours

[@colinmcphan]

I have read to and heard from Tom's own mouth in recent interviews that he and Lalla have patched things up. I also hate to say it but Tom may have been correct in his criticism's of some of the scripts from the last couple of years of his time on the show. I'm not saying he always expressed those criticism's correctly but I think it points out just how much he cared about the quality of the show and integrity of the character. It also seems like Tom has grown and matured a lot in the last couple of decades.Plus Jesus says in the Bible "let him who is without sin cast( throw ) the first stone". In other words no one here on earth is perfect and if they think they are they better go see a psychiatrist. God bless you Tom. You were the best Doctor Who ever!

[@jplegend98]

Linda Taylor i dont belive in jesus do the last part of your comment went over my head howevrr i will say lalla and tom have recantly done some doctor who audio plays (full cast imagine a dvd with no sound) and reprised there roles and they are brilliant, its not awkward and the chemistrys still there with the actors and the characters obviously. they are done by big finnish. great for a long bus ride.

[@druidboy76]

joshua powell nobody cares if you don't believe. Your saying that serves no purpose.

[@sibionic]

TB is one of my heroes but I wonder if he cared about the 'integrity' of the character. Certainly he inhabited the role and dominated the set

[@colinmcphan]

@@sibionic I think he cared a lot about the integrity of the character and will always be "The Doctor"!

[@Nuttybott]

...apart from his three predecessors, who I think were ALL better than Tom.

[@johngalantini6910]

Awww lovely, lovely Mary Tamm. RIP

[@loggior.speedweed4345]

John Galantini I’m sorry, who?

[@kreftmaker]

@@loggior.speedweed4345 The actress who played Romana, dude 1:18

[@loggior.speedweed4345]

b mp oh dear, what happened?

[@hollyturner4186]

@@loggior.speedweed4345 She died of cancer 7 years ago.

[@lezlezman1843]

Yes indeed. No disrespect to Lalla, but for me Mary was THE Romana. Her first appearance in the Tardis absolutely captivated me and during that season she helped get me through a very difficult puberty! 😍

[@63DW89A]

On Tom's website, in the Forum, in "Question Room", Tom answers a SEP-2012 question, "A Companionless Doctor?" from a fan. Tom explains Lis Sladen's mistaken reason for leaving DW, and writes "Anyway I felt the loss terribly and became withdrawn and moody". Tom's answer goes a long way toward explaining his mindset and reasons for his petulant behavior after Lis left in 1976. To Tom's credit, he has expressed much regret for that behavior, and that earns major respect.

[@RedEyed2012]

The nerve thinking you are going to bully someone into accepting your meaningless apology in the same way you bullied them into putting up with your abuse. All apologies for being an ass THEN are just a self-serving attempt to clean your dirty soul NOW. Easy to say the hollow words "I'm sorry" long after you hurt someone gleefully. It's like a retroactive whiteout with a band-aid for your owie.

[@VIKDR1]

@@RedEyed2012 Seems like a very cynical way to live. Isn't this the philosophy of a person who holds grudges? People evolve. We learn and hopefully become better people. We also do not know what is going on with people in their lives. They could be struggling, and having problems, and the observer only sees the moment they crack, not all the stress that led to the cracking. For example did something happen to you? How were you hurt that caused this thought process?

[@smoog]

They need to make a entire series of Tom Baker Dr Who outtakes. Failing that, a good solid hour of Tom waggling his ducks.

[@Nautilus1972]

Mary Tamm was a fox.

[@fucheduck]

Roman goddess!

[@rangers199487]

She was an Estonian goddess.

[@ngNudraconis]

a part from his interview. will explain much how he is: “It’s not entirely the money. I do have a sense of choice and I do want to do the best I can, whether I’m doing a commentary about a building site, playing Doctor Who or trying to play something else..." ‘You see, good actors or conscientious actors, that sounds as if I’m defining myself but I am a conscientious actor, conscientious performers who’ve had a bit of experience - and God knows, I’ve been around long enough - want to invest in work. “That’s why you never consciously do shabby work. As a writer, if you’ve got a commission to do a book or a script, and you don’t do the best you can, it goes out and people say it’s feeble and you don’t get another one"

[@Boop__Doop]

Most lethal jobs in the world 3,Logging Workers 2,Fishing and Hunting Workers 1, Tom baker's director/scriptwriter

[@kyrauniversal]

I think Tom Baker and Christopher Eccleston would have a good chat and hug over their grievances with the BBCs bullshit, honestly. The one who cares for the story and the one who cares for the crew.

[@63DW89A]

From ROBOT thru HAND OF FEAR, watch any "Tom & Lis" scene, & what you will notice is lack of domination by either; instead, the two bounce off each other and work together with "hand-in-glove" perfection. Tom broods in the foreground of Part 1, PYRAMIDS OF MARS, while Lis teases his brooding behind his back with flawless, charming perfection. Tom yells at the Time Lords in BRAIN OF MORBIUS, Part 1, & Lis affectionately picks on his grouchiness with such charm, the viewer is pulled right in!

[@63DW89A]

Early during the commentary on PLANET OF EVIL, as Tom & Lis exit the TARDIS, Tom sighs and says, "I don't think I've ever been as truly happy as I was then...with you Elisabeth.". It is a very revealing and quite touching comment by Tom.

[@SuperWolsey]

Given recent years, he was right. Since she left the show, he did hit Lucille Ball territory with others even when Barry Letts came back to guide John Nathan-Turner's first year as producer

[@lancebaylis3169]

I suspect he had a genuine crush on her. But she was married and he was a gentleman. There's a clip somewhere recently of him talking about how sad he is that she's gone and I feel like he so isn't acting his tears, the crazy uncle mask slips completely.

[@almostfm]

@@lancebaylis3169 I think a lot of people had crushes on her. I know I did, and from hearing David Tennant talk about her, I think he did, too.

[@minicle426]

@@lancebaylis3169 According to one commentary he apparently used to fantasize about adopting Sladen.

[@ShiningFriendship87]

@lancebaylis3169 Tom Baker told fans that he fell deeply in love with Elisabeth, but he never admitted it because she was married.

[@hjluke4807]

Imagine if Chibnall wrote for Tom Baker. Murder would happen on set in stead of the beaches of Broadchurch.

[@neptune04]

Agree while I like Jodie as the doctor. Chibnall is Ehhh.

[@SuperWolsey]

Chibnall is the UK equivalent of Simon Kinberg or Alex Kurtzman

[@hjluke4807]

@@SuperWolsey agree.

[@Howch125]

Chibbs needs a talking to from Tom

[@sskoog]

I think the "Tom Baker's a dick" characterization is not quite right -- in conversation, he comes off as so moody and philosophical that he basically can't relate to 'mainstream' people. I'm not saying that he's an autistic mess, or a misunderstood genius, simply that he was so off-kilter, in the social sense, so as to make long-term association difficult. Didn't seem to affect his thespian talent(s).

[@tjlproductions4275]

Excellent point here - he ALWAYS Put himself in the mind's of what would be interesting and amusing to the younger audience and thoughtful of what would entertain the parents - he channeled the audience above all - and that's what really matters, IMO. Keep in mind, he was caring a show and marketing, including the first successful launch of the series in the U.S. with those stories and the impact they would have that he cared about. He knew what he meant to in the eyes of children and never took that for granted in any way.

[@Classictv90s]

I particularly remember watching some footage from a studio recording of The Leisure Hive and seeing Tom losing his cool when as The Doctor, he had a scene where he had throw something and he said "Let's just get on with it!"

[@44excalibur]

Yes, I know that Ward and Baker eventually got divorced, but that happend AFTER they left the show. And even though Ward won't do DVD commentaries with him, Mary Tamm did do both DVD commentaries as well as audio books with Baker before she passed away, so its apparent that Baker and Tamm got along well.

[@britwigger]

I had such a crush on Lalla back then, and she looks rather lovely here now.

[@froggacuda1605]

Lalla, Wendy Padbury, Elizabeth Sladen, and Frazier Hines aged the best of all the companions (in my opinion)

[@richardpagliaroli3085]

I liked how they could do good stories without complicated special effects

[@lezlezman1843]

That was the magic of it. The story lines drew you in so much, the cheesy effects could be forgiven and you would watch it purely because you were hooked on the tale being told. Now it's the other way around. You are so impressed by the visual effects that the stories get tolerated because of them...up to a point, that is. I'm afraid the Chris Chibnall era has lost the plot to the point that even I, a devotee from the Troughton days can no longer watch it.

[@Ass_Burgers_Syndrome]

@@lezlezman1843 Well Chinballs and whassername are leaving so who knows, it might improve. Pffffttt hahahaha just kidding!! Sod it, I'm off to watch the Web of Fear.

[@jkokich]

Some directors and writers simply suck. Actors are the ones who are seen, and therefore get the brunt of the criticism.

[@doctorwhowho2351]

Lol Tom baker should be given a knighthood swearing like that 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@63DW89A]

ROBOT is one of my favorites too. The story has the unique charm and feel of a Pertwee UNIT story, while successfully & colorfully introducing the new maniacal 4th Dr! Maybe the best new doctor intro ever. The story actually centers around Sarah Jane, as did PLANET OF THE SPIDERS immediately previous, in a brilliant way that anchors the audience during a Dr regeneration. Closely watch ROBOT part 2, during the questioning of Kettlewell, to see Tom & Lis magically "click" in the scene. I

[@marcse7en]

"Robot" was a fantastic story to introduce the new Doctor!

[@flashy5150]

If you can't understand someone because of the way they talk, or can't talk, then trying to do what they want is very hard. I've worked in situations like that too and it's very hard.

[@meiray]

Tom's ego definitely got out of hand under Williams, even Hinchcliffe apparently started to have trouble with him a bit, but the man had his share of good ideas to keep the show interesting. Even just that little moment in "The Power of Kroll" is great. He may have derided a lot of the scripts and directors but he definitely cared about the show and his audience. Also, the psittacosis quote is priceless.

[@hyperbeanify]

poor romana in the first 2 clips she looks really scared by tom

[@larrylarry1]

Seeing the 2 Romanas is very nice. Sarah Jane Smith is my favorite companion. God bless Elisabeth Sladen. Oh, seeing Tom at work is nice too.

[@sladegrey9272]

The dirty little not-so-secret is that his character would not have been as memorable, had it been played by a person who wasn't a complete nutter.

[@Marvin-dg8vj]

He was a very talented complete nutter and an intuitive one. I cannot imagine people coming though like that today

[@krishnan-resurrection714]

..obviously the next 'DR WHO' is gonna be a young Black guy from Uganda or some such ....what a sad day that will be 😩

[@63DW89A]

The New Series does "miss the boat" in choosing the Dr's clothing, I think. The first four Dr's hit it right, I think, in choosing clothing heavily influenced by the late Victorian & early Edwardian periods. The men's styles from these periods is functional and practical, doesn't look too far away from the 21st Century, has great class, yet presents a unique, I'm-not-of-this-time look that makes the Dr stand out!

[@ObviouslyKieran]

Chris and David's outifts are fine but the rest put more of their personality into their clothing.

[@krishnan-resurrection714]

Peter Davidson was 'ok' ...but Sylvester mcoy was the 'Death knell' .....Now its all politically correct propaganda .....basically a slur on the memory of Dr who !!!!!

[@marcse7en]

The New Series "misses the boat" period, compared to Classic Who!

[@FoobsTon]

Mary Tam was such a beauty.

[@tardistime6857]

Absolutely

[@63DW89A]

Interesting observation. Evaluated from that perspective makes it appear that Tom Baker feared change and resisted it. I'd say the easiest change for Tom was from Mary Tamm to Lalla Ward. Tom liked Mary and had enjoyed working with Lalla on "The Armageddon Factor". When Mary finally decided to leave, she suggested Lalla to replace her, knowing how much Tom liked her. Tom was devastated by Lis Sladen leaving, became withdrawn and moody, and that's the scene poor Louise Jameson entered!

[@froggacuda1605]

When I first watched the Louise Jameson serials, I didn't like them. Having just rewatched them all again, I was surprised to find how much I really enjoyed them and even wish she had stayed around for at least one more season. I think initially, my disappointment was due mostly to missing Sarah Jane. For Louise, stepping into Elizabeth Sladen's shoes must have been really tough

[@zuzumontague]

Then JNT came along, ran Tom of the show and turned DW into a train wreck.

[@sixstanger00]

Mary Tamm was IMO, the most beautiful woman to have ever walked this Earth.

[@princeofcupspoc9073]

You misspelled Lala Ward.

[@rigsby1454]

I think Tom never really got on after the Hinchcliffe era. Some of those scripts in Williamson time were below his standard

[@krishnan-resurrection714]

...stiill 1000 times better than the 'Bog paper' standard of todays propaganda scripts tho !!!!!!

[@markbongard7261]

He is most certainly the best to ever play The Doctor in my opinion.

[@63DW89A]

The marriage lasted a little over a year. And Tom and Lalla had a number of "lovers spats" on set during their WHO time together. And Tom and Lalla will not do DVD commentaries together. Tom Baker's first 13 stories with Elisabeth Sladen were smooth sailing, no problems. The problems started immediately after she left. Tom has made many revealing comments since her passing, as to why Lis Sladen had such a positive effect on him.

[@nigelcarren]

When I was a child I wished I had Tom Baker's hair when I grew up. Now here I am all grown up, and truth be known... anyone's hair would do! 😉🇬🇧

[@calebfuller4713]

I'll keep my hair but I'll happily take Tom's voice!

[@stevemitchell9520]

I'm hearing you mate 🙄

[@mikerophone235]

"Don't waggle my ducks?" "You'll frighten the horses" Underrated comeback IMO

[@tekvax]

Psittacosis! love it! must remember that one!

[@RaginRonic]

Good on Tom for wanting those who directed and wrote his episodes to try harder, and be better than what they were. It's why he lasted 8 seasons over 7 years, cause he gave a shit about what he was doing there, and always put quality over quantity. It's why he's also retained his respect from the fanbase over the last, as of 2017, 43 years. More power to ya, Tom! =)

[@Warriorcats64]

TBF, No. 6 was fired and the whole show was axed under No. 7, who knows how long they would've lasted with similar privileges.

[@aquagrl63]

Oh Tom Baker... what exactly was the deal with him? He doesn't really seem like a mean person, but he doesn't come off as very stable. Like, yeah he's quirky and eccentric, but there seems to be a bit more to that.

[@callithowiseeit5806]

Tom is all things I'm sure, you're not just all one way, it's the same across the board, same vibrancy whichever direction/emotion it takes, with the out you get equal in, such extroversion means equal introversion, I'm sure he's quite impossible to be around (half the time) but that other half.. ahh that's what makes the ride worth it

[@TheSchemer1]

When on the show he discovered he had undiscovered bipolar so having to deal with abnormally high moods and extremely low moods 24/7 probably was like he was the way he was, especially after Elizabeth Sladen left and even more so when he had to deal with John Gaythan-Turner as producer

[@Munchylunch]

PLEASE CAN SOMEONE TELL US WHAT DVD THIS FOOTAGE COMES FROM? SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE ASKED AND NOBODY HAS REPLIED. SURELY SOMEONE MUST KNOW....PLEASE!

[@garyturner3865]

The scene where he swears at K 9 is brilliant.

[@HeathCamp]

1:41 funniest thing I have ever heard! "I could waggle my ducks!" XDD

[@jellybabiesarecool4657]

I've heard people complain about Tom's behaviour but, while he could have maybe said stuff a little bit nicer, he was just making sure his Doctor had the best lines and delivered them in the best way. There's a reason his Doctor is so successful but went down a notch in his final season with JNT taking a lot more control over the Doctor's character.

[@aquagrl63]

Part of the problem with Tom Baker is that he really was quite odd. I don't think he was simply quirky. He seems like a genuinely unstable person. I don't mean that as an insult. It's just that while someone like Baker is fun to watch on screen, they might be hard to be around in real life. I don't know how Lis managed it. He really liked her, I guess.

[@colinmcphan]

Tom actually got along with a fair amount of people.

[@tahutoa]

Plenty of people can be outright strange without being unstable. He just happens to be a strange man, but he's perfectly level-headed.

[@mattsom3915]

@@tahutoa iirc, he started to believe he was literally The Doctor, the man who's *supposed* to help people, and that messed with him a bit

[@LadyMaelBethad]

I worked on 'Dr Who' with Tom (production side) and he was never anything but professional.

[@peterward2275]

(Very gravely): "No, no. Don't waggle your ducks." 🤣

[@garyturner3761]

Tom at times could be on Who irasible but that was one of him charms.

[@willadeefriesland5107]

❤Tom. We writers can be too close to our work. A television show is a shared effort. Tom was the star lead and the success of the show was on his shoulders. Many writers, but only one Tom Baker🙂...

[@63DW89A]

Yeah, the "New Series Only" types do make you grind your teeth at times. They rave about Rose with Dr#10, or Amy with Dr#11, yet they've never seen Ian & Barbara with Dr#1, or Jamie & Zoe with Dr#2, or Liz Shaw with Dr#3, or Sarah Jane & Harry with Dr#4 I'm so glad that DW survives and the New Series does have its high points, but writing & story wise, the New Series has a LONG way to go to equal the Classic Series at its best, from roughly INVASION / WAR GAMES thru HORROR OF FANG ROCK,

[@General_Nothing]

Did I hear, “don’t waggle your ducks, you’ll frighten the horses”?

[@johnjuhasz9125]

Lalla Ward has aged very well, she looks wonderful for her age. Good for her.

[@callithowiseeit5806]

@stephen noonan I love honesty, just thought I'd thank you before you get set on by the mealymouths

[@neptune04]

@stephen noonan Maybe I'm missing something since I can't find any information but besides whatever went down with her and tom baker whats the problem with Lalla Ward? I haven't found anything overly negative about her online.

[@jacks7890]

"I can waggle my ducks"

[@GyitMulhaneski-GloriousYears]

Although I do seem to remember David Maloney having the measure of him on footage of "Talons.." where Tom repeatedly says 'I think it would be rather good if..' and David saying 'Yes. Yes. And now we move on to this bit..' (Party pooper).

[@blueThumbnail]

4th doctor: nice sweet hilarious and funny tom baker: a producers nightmare

[@63DW89A]

That is a good point. In looking at DW at its best, which I consider Seasons 7-14, the writing and production is brilliant, appealing across the age spectrum. And this is where the New Series, as good as it is, falls way short of the program's finest era. What the New Series desperately needs is a modern Barry Letts to guide DW again into brilliant writing & production that is multi-level in ability to span the audience age spectrum.

[@globalcitizen995]

You who played Romana - you are still beautiful

[@normiron736]

Tom was amazing as Rasputin in Nicholas And Alexandra, another part he was born to play

[@krishnan-resurrection714]

..check out t'he mutations' ....Tom at his best . .. ..

[@alcyonependragon2035]

0:36 made me laugh so much, especially as he was in costume when he said it - I've always wanted to see The Doctor swear.......oh gosh i'm so immature....well there's no point in being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes!

[@colinmcphan]

Well said!!!

[@SMPandanic]

0:36 thats for the people cuz the time wont work

[@pvtrichter88]

as i've learned from other production stories was that Tom baker was notoriously difficult to deal with and as ibegin to look at it from an older perspective i do begin to see more of what was different about that era and how tis could be the start of something different!!

[@angelwingz892]

I stopped watching Doctor Who when Sarah Jane left.

[@lukea136]

I had read that Tom refused to take direction, but he played the Doctor so so well it's hard to call him out for it. Hate being unoriginal, but he really is my favourite.

[@glnelson1956]

VERY interesting thought, Tom Baker in "Caves.."! It is amazing how often "Robert Holmes" turns up as writer on universally favorite DW stories! I wish that the BBC had allowed Hinchcliffe-Holmes to remain thru Season 16 at least, instead of moving Hinchcliffe at the end of Season 14 and forcing DW to be toned down. I wish Lis Sladen had remained to the end of Season 14, with Ian Marter's "Harry" and UNIT popping in and out of various stories until then too! The BBC cut its own throat!

[@TheProfessor230]

Hinchcliffe was considered to stay for Season 15

[@froggacuda1605]

I loved Harry! I really wish he'd stayed on longer!

[@ShockwaveEntertainment]

What DVD is this from?

[@jayrox40]

Ribos operation and Pirate planet.

[@Murph_.]

I think Tom Baker was the best Doctor. I think part of it was how seriously he seems to have taken it.

[@littleripper312]

A lot of people have attitudes on set but at least Tom had some talent and wit to back it up. Just like any work place you have a bunch of talentless uninspiring and lazy people in the mix(not everyone) and some of them have a lot of power and influence on the project. Tom just had the guts and spirit to take them on and luckily talent to actually back it up.

[@krishnan-resurrection714]

yes...the current DR who is absolute Garbage ....what a disgrace to the memory . . ..

[@63DW89A]

bluejeckett, I agree that you may well have a point about Tom being irritated by a woman stealing his spotlight. I have always given Tom the benefit of the doubt and taken him at his word that it was Leela's violence he objected to. But it is possible that deep down Tom viewed the scantily-clad Leela as a threat to his limelight. In the case of Lis & Tom, Lis Sladen's immediate support and encouragement to Tom allowed total mutual trust to develop into an all-time great screen pairing.

[@glnelson1956]

The comment observing how stable Tom was when Elisabeth Sladen was around is very telling I think. Since her sad passing, Tom has said how much he cherished the solid support of Lis, from ROBOT on. Had Lis stayed to the end of Season 14, I can see a non-paranoid, contented, stable Tom. I really like TALONS OF WENG CHIANG. But I can see TOWC being even better with Elisabeth Sladen. Nothing aganst Louise Jameson; I like Leela. But Tom did not like Leela, & it affected him negatively.

[@BrendanJSmith]

If only we had all the outtakes for Hartnell and Troughton...

[@vickychiu1474]

I could waddle my duck.....No thanks( What? Waddling ducks?????)

[@nickcandy1874]

Vicky Chiu He said "waggle". A word describing what he was doing with his lapel in that scene.

[@chesper_miguel]

224 thousand views and 6 likes bruh

[@evani4067]

He may have been difficult at times but it certainly paid off

[@Elnont]

All the things Tom was ‘difficult’ about are the things that doctor who fans, to this day, recognise as start of the slow downfall of Doctor who in the 80s - so he was right lmao:

[@Chinaboatman]

Lalla Ward's face at 0:36. Lol

[@shoogamoogaman]

Don't waggle y'ducks Tom :)

[@whispercraftgaming9494]

im reading shada sadly it was never shown on screen

[@VinchVolt]

The finished segments were inter-spliced with narration from Tom Baker in-character as Four and got released on VHS and DVD, so at least we have that.

[@julieeverett7442]

its here now!

[@animfan98]

I would dearly love to hear the uncensored version of the "Fuck whoever banged the door!" clip! It's so funny if you watch how Lalla reacts, she starts out looking all chirpy, then after Tom's expletive looks like a child who's just been told off by their parents.

[@blofeld39]

It used to be on here.

[@andrewraichlin]

Does anyone know where I Can find the FULL interview from Ward from this as it obviously cuts off at the end.

[@DCGuy1997]

Mary Tamm was so beautiful.

[@63DW89A]

TheMasterNo6, agree totally that quickly setting Tom straight would have been the proper thing to do. Pertwee & Baker are both my favorite Drs, in Seasons 7-14, & both the Letts-Dicks & Hinchcliffe-Holmes eras are superb IMO. And the "Sarah Jane era" that I'm collecting on DVD is the peak of it all, IMO. Also, I really like Doctors 1-thru-4 in Seasons 1-14. Coming from a U.S. fan who was first introduced to DW by Tom Baker's first 3 Seasons, 12,13 &14.

[@TheMasterNo6]

True. I was watching 'The Talons of Weng Chiang' and that period of Who really had brilliant writing and characterisation - especially for and via Toms acting / interpretation. I watched the later 'Full Circle' and it was sadly awful in comparison. You could tell Tom was 'going through the motions' by then compared to the superior Philip Hintchcliff' era of the show.

[@TEKNOFIED]

And that's why Tom is the true Dr Who. He made the show fantastic. But as he always says; Who nose...

[@44excalibur]

I'm very sorry you're just learning this now. Yes, she passed away from cancer just this July. :( It is sad.

[@2Scribble]

NO duck waggling