Tom King’s Jenny Sparks Gives Most Jaded Comic Fan HOPE

[@chm9935]

Merging WS and the DCU was a bad idea. How can sparks return now that were in the 21st cent?

[@davidgantenbein9362]

The original comics already transformed her into Jenny Quantum to get around the century limitation. So imo that has been degrade since forever.

[@EvandroACruz]

Dumbest idea ever. Wildstorm is the place of the cynism and the anti-heroes.

[@anthonyeldridge4358]

Agreed. Wildstorm was fine as it's own universe. The Authority WAS the JLA of that universe and it worked just fine.

[@Chan-zn7wb]

This is why I hate that The Authority is going to be in the same universe as modern day Superman. It should have been a period piece set in the late 90's.

[@Chan-zn7wb]

​@@davidgantenbein9362 Jenny Quantum should be a quarter of a century Zoomer with Boomer parents.

[@DavidSmith-dp6vb]

Calling King a Wish version of Alan Moore is an insult to wish. I’m so sick of him ripping off Watchmen in the weakest way. I suggest picking up the Stormwatch Compendium coming in January and read the Warren Ellis masterpiece that leads to the Authority.

[@ellesse3862]

Another character King wipes his arse on. Some characters have a purpose and a time and a place but King can't grasp that concept, instead he's now ruining another legacy. I'll buy a Jenny Sparks comic when Warren Ellis writes her in a new untold story set in continuity before she died, nothing else is acceptable.

[@EvandroACruz]

This isn't Jenny Sparks of Wildstorm universe. Just a inferior version of her character set in the main DCU.

[@ascorvinus]

He wanted to write a typical Warren Ellis protagonist, and that would have been even a bigger miss if he’d used Jenny Quantum. But Tom King ain’t no Warren Ellis.

[@lobaoguara2332]

Not even Warren Ellis is Warren Ellis anymore.

[@Marc-oy2ph]

You hadn't heard it then

[@EvandroACruz]

Nobody can emulte what Ellis and Hitch did in the original The Authority first run in the late of the 90's.NOBODY.

[@murdock8694]

I'll just read the post-crisis Pat Broderick Captain Atom again. That's such a great series. Recommended if you've never checked it out!

[@InfamyOrDeath-__-]

Even if you payed me I couldn’t read a King comic, I just despise the writing style.

[@EvandroACruz]

Hard pass for me. The real Jenny Sparks died in The Authority vol 1 issue 12 in the late of the 90's so I don't have interest in this new version of this character in another universe. When DC will learn that Wildstorm characters never will fit in DCU? And again Tom King portray Captain Atom in a very bad light. First he made him a incompetent bufoon in City of Bane arc where Gotham Girl beat shit out him and now like a complete murderous jerkass.King is the worst.

[@captainscomicsandcomments8079]

I'm way out on this. Nope! I liked the Wildstorm universe and especially the Authority. Tom King, nope.

[@m.hadley9121]

I was physically angry when i heard King was messing with JENNY SPARKS. And of course, the crappy first issue confirmed what i knew would happen. What a waste.

[@EvandroACruz]

Just leave the Wildstorm universe alone.Please.

[@matthewmilan6979]

Tom King wishes he was half the man Jenny Sparks is in this book.

[@MaverickhunterXZero]

Tom King? Yeah, keep expectations very low.

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

8:30 Captain Atom jobbing to Gotham Girl was absolutely absurd.

[@Aloysius10]

Also Jenny Sparks is back. Wait till she teams up with Jenny Crisis.

[@joshuajohnson413]

Wildstorm should never have been brought into the DC universe when they already had the authority pastiche, as well as characters such as Midnighter and Apollo already being different takes on existing superheroes Batman and superman.

[@EvandroACruz]

Yes,Wildstorm need come back to Image again.

[@m.hadley9121]

See, that's what turns me off about the upcoming DCU films, where they are trying to cram THE AUTHORITY into them...when THE ELITE already exists as a pastiche of THE AUTHORITY(and a legitimate villain team to be counterparts to the JUSTICE LEAGUE) in the DC UNIVERSE.

[@Chan-zn7wb]

​@@m.hadley9121Thank you! What is James Gunn even doing? Folding The Authority into DC was a bad idea. (But, at least it was Stormwatch, at first. They are supposed to be clandestine. The Authority, however are not.) He's doubled down on that decision and there are rumours they are a The Elite standin and not all seven OG members will make the cut (Sorry, Shen) and King is a confirmed part of the writing team.

[@AL-ws5yi]

Tom King? Hard pass.

[@Philosophical24]

That’s why I feel bad for Dok for having hope because if this does lead anywhere good, perhaps the inclusion of the wildstorm universe and maybe an ongoing series, they’re probably gonna give it to Tom King anyways which is just hopeless

[@gftvletsplay4087]

Another artist falls victim to Tom Kings mess. Nice review guys, thank you.

[@Spoeism]

I was a Stormwatch kid.... So until DC brings back Battlalion, OG Winter, Fuji, Cannon.... I only kinda care. The Authority inspired Marvel's Ultimate line so it makes sense they'd retread. If DC can respectfully infuse Wildstorm, Milestone and the Watchmen universe they may generate interest and readership. The new Vertigo. This could be KINGDOM COME but more nuanced.

[@scinnyc]

Even if DC did bring back the classic Stormwatch team, they'd just f*%k it up like they did with the WildC.A.T.S and Mr. Majestic

[@Spoeism]

@@scinnyc Yeah but they fucked it up because they were never really respectful or committed to promoting these characters to be anywhere near the level of their homegrown characters And they couldn’t leave the characters as they were for authentic representation they had to tweak them as if to put their company stamp on the variation It’s like expecting Tony Khan the owner of AEW to constantly put over new Japan wrestlers when he just like Vincent McMahon will bury the guys from other promotions It would be a tumultuous effort with a lot of minefields and pitfalls to navigate But if we can get someone truly talented to come up with a story that brings the 90 series Kingdom come drawn by Alex Ross to life? But using the characters from these universes? And like I said making it more nuanced so it’s not black and white How do the DC heroes justified to these others heroes their sanctimonious pontifications of your heroism …. after they’ve all turned a blind eye to Amanda Waller & the suicide squad? Stuff like that They could even bring in some classic public domain characters who they use as a basis for a lot of their character See The Ray Captain Atom knew most of them before the merger leading to DC. Those left behind.

[@PureMaddnessOne]

Going with in main universe reboots, i think this is the 4th reboot. In recent outsiders comic with Batwoman, Batwing, etc, were they claimed multiple Century Babies can exist at same time, they unalived Jennifer Quarx and replaced her with a black lesbian named Jennifer Cressi. Either Jinny Hex (aka the granddaughter of Jonah Hex) is either 1 somehow, same with new character Cameron Kim aka City Boy is 1 as well.

[@MrJason-g8x]

couldve been a great tv cinematic with Wildstorm on HBO or WB. Now theyre just 2nd class heroes,

[@CoreySimms-hf3ml]

I meant to say do they keep giving this man more work

[@Marc-oy2ph]

To pay the bills

[@Bcsthegoat]

It’s Jim lee of course he in charge of dc he’s way worse that’s why dc need a plan like marvel that’s why they marketing on top and Jim lee keeps bringing dc to the ground with the writers

[@Marc-oy2ph]

@@Bcsthegoat haha don't make laugh, if anyway DC is better then marvel

[@Marc-oy2ph]

@@Bcsthegoat do you see what they are doing to their characters n freaking spiderman?!

[@scinnyc]

I gotta disagree with Doc...Captain Atom: Armageddon was a pretty good series. It just got a little boring towards the middle. But I loved the beginning and the ending. The pre-New 52 Captain Atom was one of my favorite superheroes, in part because of that series

[@ScienceJesus]

It didn't fit the WSU at all at the time. It ignored multiple active plots to work. It jobbed the Authority out almost immediately. The entire premise of the plot with Void and Captain Atom required an off-panel split between the Void and Jack Marlowe just to make sense. And they completely ignored Jack's entire existence in order to make the plot work. Editorial interfered on behalf of a no-name DC writer to undercut their own existing continuity and make the intentional choice to NOT have Jack as part of the series (considering I own the original art page that Jack appears on that was changed in the published version) because there was no logical way to make the separation of Spartan/Void work.

[@scinnyc]

@@ScienceJesus Actually, some of the Void stuff was partially explained in the Majestic series.

[@kalel666]

Tom King is an instant nope for me. Don't even care what book or publisher it is. Hard no.

[@rosswilson8917]

Same here

[@Off-Brand_Devin]

That page of Captain Atom talking to the homeless man about eating pigeons is one of the stupidest things I've ever read.

[@DarthDread-oh2ne]

Tom king couldn’t write a good story even if it hit him in the face .

[@chm9935]

All his books awful

[@raiderbear1]

Awesome work guys

[@Dion1605x]

This guy wrote "Cat, Bat" , he let Alfred die ,and he really wrote that Bruce insulting his dead parents. I think he and Tynion wrote the worst Batman ever.

[@Marc-oy2ph]

The guy who made batman broke?

[@DDOT-c4t]

​@@Marc-oy2ph yes, but Batman is rich again.

[@Marc-oy2ph]

@@DDOT-c4t yea ik , this guy here wes complaining about the comic of chip zdarsky from his other video , calling it dumb how can he be rich?! , serious he don't know , tynion n chip are friends , I like chips work no matter what

[@EvandroACruz]

And Bruce was a wimp that need Catwoman help to defeat Bane twice. King killed the sales of Batman main title.

[@Dion1605x]

@@EvandroACruz I would understand Azrael/Azbats since he was orginally who defeated Bane in the Knightfall Saga,but Catwoman is just a regular thief.

[@BadNewsYouNeedToKnow]

Wopildstorm Rebirth? Not with the talent DC has been hiring. You can’t go from the insane detail of art and color of Wildstorm to the low budget comic books offerings in 2024 and relaunch. It’s color book art today done on the computer. Soon enough these low budget foreign computer artists will be doing their own colors for the extra 40$!

[@randybrown2270]

Wonder Woman was the last straw for me. Tom King = Pass Everytime.

[@AbortedEvolution]

This book was so terrible.

[@sidneyrivera3578]

I considered pre-ordering this book, but then I thought, I better wait to see what Wes and Dok say😜

[@freman007]

"Hope is the first step on the path to disappointment."

[@matthiasuy]

Tom King is insta-crap. He only has one kind of story and he will try to fit any character to it, regardless if it's in character or not. Most of the time it's not.

[@kommandantvhs4994]

Comic fans really are just Charlie Brown. the modern writer puts the football out there and the comic 'fan" tries to kick it and gets the ball yanked away at the last minute.

[@Barbel1th]

Couldn't she just remain dead? But I guess this is more of "revamping" a character by removing one of their key aspects.🤷‍♂

[@InfamyOrDeath-__-]

I only read Captain Atom is Justice League Generation Lost, I loved that comic run. This Captain Atom sounds very different, the one I read would never kill somebody like that.

[@EvandroACruz]

Captain Atom used to strugle with your superhero role and your military background. And yet he showed be a very optimistic superhero when he came to the Wildstorm universe and get very upset in how the Wildstorm characters don't give a shit about killing your foes.

[@anthonyeldridge4358]

Tom King? Say no more. *Enterprise Red Alert sounds*

[@akaBoG]

I ordered a copy of this book, the C variant I think, specifically because the cover had her smoking on it. Can't say I am familiar with the character.

[@russellbarba8177]

All tom king does is break characters like most modern writers and if it was for his mom we as readers would not have to put up with his hateful writing...

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

It seems that every modern writer wants to be Alan Moore, minus Moore's rape fetish and talent.

[@EvandroACruz]

Yes, one of main reasons of why american comics are dying in these days.

[@CoreySimms-hf3ml]

Why do these Mrs keep giving him i don’t understand what is so special about Tom king I need to know dc comics please tell me why is he still here

[@diegokaqui60]

Getting mereleona vives from the cover

[@egonnn244]

This comic book was terrible. Boring, drawn out mess with an insufferable main character. Taking shots at Batman and Superman didn't help it either. Even the art didn't seem all that great. It's nice to have a personal confirmation that Tom King still sucks. Doc's gonna be severely disappointed.

[@billybarnett2846]

This comic made no sense because how is the spirit of the 20th century still alive in the 21st century? She has electrical powers going up against somebody with radiation powers. Where was the editor for this book? They need to go somewhere and find A plus writers in college or the Kubert school. You just have these giant plot holes you can drive a train through.

[@EvandroACruz]

Yes this a true blaspheme to Ellis/Hitch 90's The Authority run.

[@MalfeasanceQ]

You can skip half the pages of this issue and really not miss anything.

[@dice_fumbler]

If Tom King's writing, I'm not buying. Simple as that.

[@samokuma9596]

Life IS simple : if Tom King is on the Book, i'm not Reading it.

[@m.hadley9121]

I loathe this comic and JENNY SPARKS, an awesome character, being thrown away for TOM KING's deconstruction/copying ALAN MOORE nonsense. Already trying to integrate Sparks into the DC UNIVERSE is a fool's errand, but King's self-insert is the opposite of the actual SPIRIT OF THE 20TH CENTURY. I do not share the Dynamic Dok's hope. This crappy series won't go anywhere and be nothing more than King's deconstruction tendencies. ALL the cool stories that you could tell with Jenny and of course King would - well, as Dok put it best, "King all over it" from the very start. Hopefully one day a REAL SUPERHERO COMIC SCRIBE will step forward and not only tell actual interesting stories with JENNY SPARKS, but bring back the WILDSTORM UNIVERSE with new tales exploring that world as well.

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

I wish Alan Moore had never existed. How the hell has he not be cancelled for his incredibly obvious obsession with SA? Even Captain Britain and Tom Strong weren't safe.

[@ianhowe338]

Did you write the title before you heard what Dok had to say? Because where is the hope?

[@ScienceJesus]

I DO have hope. I know I shouldn't. By all metrics I SHOULD hate this comic. But I have a sliver of hope here that this could be something great and a chance to rebirth the WSU. It won't happen. I know I'm completely delusional. But I DO have hope. Even if I recognize it as false hope.

[@josephacevedo8376]

Isn't Captain Atom going to be part of the new Justice League in October?

[@TevyaSmolka]

yes so i think this book is noncanon.

[@JES408]

I love and miss the authority so much that i am willing to read this lol and also The High was still alive when they shut down windstorm so bring him onto the team lol I'm an easy mark 😅😂

[@Slitheringpeanut]

Tom King? Nope. This is going suck as he always does.

[@TevyaSmolka]

so the book is good

[@mk_wizard]

Honestly, starting over is not a bad idea. In fact, I think that is what ALL Marvel and DC heroes need to do from Spider-Man to Batman, and this time, do everything right. No breaking up iconic couples, no ruining great characters, no making everything about the politics of now and above all else, giving some heroes ENDINGS. I love the heroes I grew up with, but I am humble enough to admit that they are heroes of their time and changing them to be modern breaks them and ruined iconic things about them. For example, if Peter is growing up and getting married, let him hang up the Spider-Man suit and pass the mantle on to Miles full time. Don't force him to stay Spider-Man and force him to be single and miserable. He's Peter Parker not Peter Pan. He should be allowed to grow up and move on in his life happily. Moreover, it's the dignified and positive way to end his story and begin Miles'. It's what they did the MCU when Steven Rogers gave the Shield to Sam. It's hard to say goodbye, but... at least he's happy and got to live a happy full life. And you know what? The rest of the heroes can end happily like that too. The point is that it is time to do a hard reset and do everything right this time.

[@maxmazzotti6651]

With skill and talent it can work

[@InfamyOrDeath-__-]

@@mk_wizard They’re never going to do that, they need to milk the same characters forever.

[@atchison8145]

It's never gonna happen because the big 2 are corporate owed and at this point are just IP farms. The characters are forever(until the "big 2" die), going to be stuck in limbo, never growing, and never aging. Also, there's no point in rebooting if you are just going to keep doing the same thing over and over again. The whole point of rebooting a universe is to do different things.

[@mk_wizard]

@@InfamyOrDeath-__- Nothing is forever which includes silliness.

[@mk_wizard]

@@atchison8145 Maybe I'm crazy, but I have feeling that not only will it happen, it's going to happen in our lifetime. People are getting tired including creators who are being strongarmed into creating designs, characters and stories they don't want. Creative freedom is being reclaimed and things will be different.

[@cliffwoodbury5319]

how do you like a a book whose character is acting like another character. Manchester Black is a cool character, but it's obvious they are still ruining characters with no regaurd. I wish that D.C. and Marvel made far more comics for their U.K./Commonwealth based characters, because many of them interest me.

[@EvandroACruz]

DC killed Manchester Black again. This sucks.

[@Ranben.]

Tom King? Hope? Is this the fabled Anti-Truth equation...?

[@luchomscyfy]

Nope. Tom King is a big N-O, for me.

[@miriahofthewind]

Pirated this issue. Hard pass. Not only for the Nathaniel Adam slander but Jenny just seems like a cringy edgy try hard.

[@Robintat2]

Who the fuck is Jenny Sparks? Does anyone care?

[@BAMN84]

Omg they had to put the holocaust stupid crap in comics.

[@freman007]

Of course, the concept of a "spirit of the century" is a bit dumb, because regardless of how we measure time, it's not objective. Our numbering of the years is entirely arbitrary, so Jenny Sparks shouldn't be tied to any temporal sequence devised by man.

[@m.hadley9121]

That's actually discussed in the original AUTHORITY run when she died. One of the other members pointed out that she should not officially die until 2001, but she pointed out since humanity collectively believe(foolish, arbitrary or otherwise) the century ends in 1999, she dies then(but not before taking out "God" with a powerful electric shock).

[@ScienceJesus]

As Jenny and the Engineer once said: "consensus reality" when talking about the turn of the millennium before Jenny died in Authority 12.

[@m.hadley9121]

@@ScienceJesus Exactly. I posted a similar response yesterday and KZbin apparently deleted my post.

[@theplaguedoctor5773]

God I hate DC.

[@Bcsthegoat]

It’s Jim bringing dc to the ground he’s charge he let the writers do what they want which insane like that’s why dc currently shitty and needs a new ceo and some new writers