Tom Pelissero Is Flabbergasted By 49ers Brock Purdy QB Debate

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[@ShaunHensley]

Brock is a top 2 or top 3 QB

[@stephendanner4132]

He didn't break his thumb in the NFC championship game. He tore a ligament in his elbow!

[@elbiologo45]

I think he is talking about Jimmy G

[@DavidNugent-j3b]

“He” didn’t break anything Kyle’s weak pass pro broke him!

[@bookboy7007]

@@stephendanner4132 I broke my thumb...watching the game

[@mech1464]

I don't know who that guy was going on about how Brock doesn't have flashy highlights and can't perform outside the system, but he is so unbelievably wrong. Brock has quite a nice highlight reel already with fantastic splashy plays and he does some of his best ball when the play has already broken down. When i hear people talk like that cat does, i know they haven't watched Brock and are just re spinning the same anti-Brock narrative.

[@carlospepin7285]

Facts 💯

[@ShaunHensley]

Brock is the system.

[@thedungeon1578]

Seriously, I have friends just claim it's all check-downs and handing the ball to Deebo or CMC every play. They clearly don't watch the games. He throws it deep INSTEAD of checking down constantly.

[@bookboy7007]

@@thedungeon1578 I think he should check it down more to mcaffrey. mcaffrey will make the first guy miss every time if purdy gets him the ball quickly.

[@YanChose]

If it was so easy to be 49ers' QB, Kyle wouldn't have felt the need to trade 3 first round picks to get one.

[@Greybeardmedic]

100%! This is the NFL, if it was easy to be a system quarterback with the 49ers then why didn't Brian Hoyer succeed? How about CJ Beathard ? Nick Mullens? Sam Darnold? Trey Lance? Colin Kaepernick? However, if we look at Jimmy Garropolo, who has played the most under Shanahan, we all know his flaws: doesn't like to throw to the edge, doesn't throw deep, can't improvise, gets flustered when outside the pocket, prone to bonehead mistakes. Jimmy G started off strong, but he was treated as a system quarterback, guard rails were thrown up to minimize mistakes and play to his strengths, and the 49ers went far, but not far enough. Brock Purdy is WELL and above all of that, Shanahan has given him the entire playbook, the training wheels are off, and its only time before he transitions from play caller, to NFL field general like Brees, Brady, and Manning. The superbowls will come.

[@ddwooten1028]

The things that Brock Purdy does well are tangible. Going through progressions quickly and getting rid of the ball quickly are measurable things, especially in this day of advanced statistical analysis. The part of the field he favors throwing the ball is also measurable. His quickness is measurable. He led his quarterback class in the 3 cone drill and shuttle at the Combine and had a 1.54 second 10 yard split in the 40. He owned the intermediate part of the football field (10 to 25 yards past the line of scrimmage) in near-historic fashion. Top in the NFL in attempts, completions, completion percentage, td passes, touchdown-interception ratio, rating, and qbr to that part of the field with more than twice as many attempts as the next closest player. Whereas, he was bottom-10 among starting quarterbacks in pass attempts within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage. Measurable. The issue is he was obviously on a pitch count during the regular season. And because of that, naysayers are determined to believe it was because of his limitations as a player, much like Jimmy was always on a pitch count because of his limitations. That wasn’t the reason; it was because he was returning from a serious elbow injury. Good luck convincing naysayers of that, though.

[@dluxx7378]

There was no pitch count, your post is the first I'd ever heard of the suggestion.

[@ddwooten1028]

@@dluxx7378 In the regular season, he went over 32 pass attempts 1 time and never had fewer than 27. Go back and look at his attempts per game. He had roughly 28 a game and rarely hit 30 attempts in a game. I know it’s not cast as a pitch count. But when the attempts are super close to the average every single game with minimal deviation, what is it, if not a pitch count?

[@dluxx7378]

@@ddwooten1028 Consistent playcalling? Rather than stretch for some farcical theory that includes two different QB's who are very different players what makes far more sense is that Jimmy and Brock had the same OC calling both their plays and that person has a preference. Seems pretty obvious to me.

[@ddwooten1028]

@@dluxx7378 He was rehabbing his elbow until well into November according to new reports today. Kyle has a track record of letting quarterbacks he trusts throw it a lot (Kirk Cousins, Matt Ryan for example). And he trusts Brock with the ball. If he’s only throwing it 28 times a game and Kyle trusts him, there has to be a reason he’s 6 or 7 attempts a game below the league average. I speculate it’s because he was mitigating injury risk with a first year starter returning from major injury. That’s where my pitch count hypothesis comes from. But for naysayers like Nick Wright, Brock’s relative lack of attempts speaks poorly of him. That Kyle doesn’t trust him any more than he did Jimmy. And he did not trust Jimmy with more than 28-30 attempts a game. I’m attempting to explain that Brock’s relative lack of pass attempts was not due to lack of confidence on Kyle’s part but due to Brock’s recovery from injury in my opinion. Brock’s attempts went up in the playoffs. Jimmy’s always went down. And I expect Brock to average around 33 - 34 attempts a game. Much closer to the league average.

[@Fallout777]

Brock is really Drew Brees like, easy top 5 QB.

[@Beaniexa]

Yep, I keep saying it. Drew Brees with mobility.

[@Greybeardmedic]

I like the Bree's comparison, their sizes are similar. Bree's was never called a system quarterback.

[@dluxx7378]

Brock Purdy has won more playoff games than Dak, Stafford, Hurts, and Jackson. After the 2024 season that list will be significantly longer.

[@hollyprice4351]

In his first 1.5 years as a starter.

[@travesotom6890]

Yeah but no Superbowl only Stafford has one and Purdy won’t get one 😆🤣

[@javarzshinall9396]

​​@@travesotom6890Stafford doesn't elevate his team he didn't do with Detroit. the all in Rams number 1 defense and offense way better O line we never went all in with Purdy with his contract we still leave money on the books

[@forrestwalker603]

​@@travesotom6890 After 12 years in the league 😂 GTFO

[@mr.nuna916]

​@forrestwalker603 A and even THAT was fuckin luck. SF was CLEARLY the better team that year...that's why I don't like 1 game playoffs. It's allows teams to get lucky. I would mich prefer a 3 game series. That would allow the truly better team to prevail

[@Lyell_Thorne]

Top 5 easily. Processing and accuracy is absolutely crucial. Even with a bad o-line which ppl forget. Great weapons? Yes but even with average wide receivers it would be them making him look bad if they drop the ball that was there on time fast. He’s got the heart of a lion, top 5 it’s simple

[@ryanjones875]

It sounds like Tom Pelissero has never seen a single game that Purdy has played.

[@JoshOlsen-qz7ye]

Brock has one thing that most don't have he reads defenses

[@bloodmoon_x]

Brock Purdy is NOT being underrated by some..He is being underrated by EVERYONE! It disgusts me the disrespect Brock Purdy receives from what he has accomplished. The show Speak with Acho, Shady, James Jones, and Joy Taylor disrespecting him is disgraceful. Joy Taylor’s snide comments about him is just straight biased garbage. Nick Wrights disgraceful garbage takes are worse..Colin Cowturd is just grasping at straws.. Brock Purdy will make the league respect HIM..

[@PsytheZero]

TBF, not everyone. Pat Mcafee did a segment where he was pretty worked up over what he called "the Brock Purdy SLANDER", and has given Dan Orlofsky endless shit about him saying Mac Jones could play similar in that offense. Richard Sherman has been a staunch Purdy defender as well. Brou, while maybe not as high on Purdy as you or I, has at least attempted to temper Wright's dogshit takes on him. Alex Smith, RG3, Tom Brady (lots of ex-QBs, hmmm...) have said nice things about him. And YES, I am keeping receipts, because this commentary drives me CRAZY. Ryan Clark is by far the worst, saying he's been "pretending" Purdy deserves to be in the conversation about top QBs. Like, WTF does that even mean? He was pretending to have one take when he really has another? What does that say about his journalistic integrity? He's clearly just spewing whatever nonsense is popular to say in the moment. (This was right after Purdy's worst game vs Baltimore)

[@BlindTom61]

Purdy top two...

[@timadams9189]

If these scouts and GMs listed Brock as a top ten QB, that would be tantamount to admitting that they missed it big time regarding SF13. He flew under their radar because their radar is defective.

[@nathanchildress5596]

No one ever talks just about his play when they discredit Purdy; they say it’s the team, they say it’s the coach, but no one can name what he’s bad at, or any reason why he can’t keep doing what he’s been doing since he took over. Brock Purdy just knows QB play, he does the job as well as anyone in the league but people think you need some kind of super power to win.

[@LtMav-zk2qo]

Purdy should play for Chargers! They will rank him Top 5 after 1 season for them.

[@donaldbrown9839]

These execs and GM's won't put Purdy in the Top 10 because it would cause them to admit they didn't evaluate him correctly. They don't want to admit they messed up passing on him

[@DesolationGamingYT]

I will literally never understand the size thing with brock. Mahomes is 1 inch taller and 5 pounds heavier accoridng to PFR, do people seriously think that matters at all?

[@BlindTom61]

You can't fix stupid.

[@thedungeon1578]

@@BlindTom61 So true.

[@mikesmith6838]

The ruler used against Purdy is just ignorant, at this point. Basically, the detractors are saying: "Is he Patrick Mahomes? No? Okay, then he isn't top 10." WUT? So, if he isn't THE number one QB, he isn't in the top 10? WTF?

[@karenhardie1132]

The haters are just hating for clicks. Like his team says, put on the tape. 😊

[@DavidNugent-j3b]

Escaping is his greatest attribute in Kyle’s scheme cause Kyle ALWAYS has a flawed pass protection game plan. (See SB)

[@jpete3027666]

Brock is top 5 easily. He has the potential be top 2-3 by the end of the year. I honestly think Mahomes and Brock are going to be her top 2 QBs in the NFL over the next 10 years.

[@bookboy7007]

If you judge quarterbacks by playoff success since purdy been in the league (not even two seasons even if you include the playoff games). Mahomes # 1 and Purdy #2. He has 6 playoff games under his belt in a year and a half in the league.....So many young qb's havent even made it to the playoffs.

[@MichaelPaige-x7e]

Definitely top 10

[@shannonpeacock3509]

He was the number 1 QB in the NFL last season. The NFL is what have you done for me lately. He’s number 1 until someone dethrones him this season. Allen, Jackson, Herbert, all make poor decisions and try to do too much. Brock just does it and if he keeps doing it, you’re gonna have to own up to it. He can’t have the career numbers that QBs who have been in the league longer than he has, so you have to stop comparing him using that as a metric and this idea of potential, in many cases unrealized, is a ridiculous metric. Can all we please live in reality and call Brock what he is.

[@curtthechameleon]

It's funny cause all the things people say he can't do being "highlight worthy" , he can do. Sidearm, moving left, right, deep ball, making plays with his legs. He's got it all. BCB MVP all day.

[@stuartbell6998]

Another season of Brock debate think he likes it like that . Showed all his career how much fight is in the dog GO BROCK GOOD TO BE BACK GO NINERS ❤

[@bjtforever]

@@stuartbell6998 pay him 60 million!!!! You will have a 6ft QB he can’t throw in outdoor stadiums. He can’t run, at least not from Ravens, Browns, and you will see.. Jets… zero talent but a great white hope

[@travesotom6890]

Daniel Jones? Really Tom 😆🤣

[@javarzshinall9396]

2023 he easily was top 5

[@Greybeardmedic]

Here's the problem Krueg, you can't simply ask someone who they think the top 10 quarterbacks are, its an impossible question. What ESPN SHOULD have done is ask these experts to quantify the ATTRIBUTES of the best quarterbacks. Develop metrics and scales of those attributes and THEN using those numbers and those concepts ASK those experts to pick their top 10 quarterbacks. This is when you would then eliminate such nonsense like: 'didn't play last year, but we SPECULATE that he will play at a high level once he returns' No offense Aaron Rodgers, but you ain't a top 10 quarterback right now, you have to prove yourself again.

[@Tony-49er]

Let's gooooooo.

[@JDDurham-c6g]

8th Goff doesn't belong there ... Just keep underrating him!

[@jasonestebez1440]

Stroud, Goff and Dak probably shouldn't be ranked ahead of Brock. And Rodgers coming off a major injury is borderline.

[@ryanjones875]

Kyle Shanahan wasn't "willing to draft him/" Lynch allowed to assistant coaches to take a flyer on the last pick.

[@River-vf7ys]

The "un athletic" label is ridiculous to me. He has elite burst. In combine history his 10 sec split is in the 90th percentile. He needs to learn how to transfer that into top end speed but he and the "athletic" Mahomes ran the same 40 times

[@IndependentAmerican]

Welcome to last weeks news lmao

[@spy-v-spy1848]

He also said Brock couldn't finish the NFCCG because he broke his thumb so knowledge ain't this man's strong suit so take his flowers with a grain of salt.

[@davet766]

Just like Joe, not the strongest arm, but he processes as well as anyone playing the position. If you watch his film often he will be releasing the ball before the receiver makes his break.

[@YodpilotID]

Tom is wrong about Purdy making plays.

[@dluxx7378]

I have such a hard time watching Larry cover the Niners when I know deep in his heart he's a Raiders diehard. I used to listen to him on overnight sports radio when I worked third shift. He and his rich douchebag friend he had on all the time and who's name I forget used to talk shit about the 49ers enthusiastically, with Larry by far talking the majority of that shit.

[@toomuchdrivetothrive]

The list was garbage. Purdy has more playoff wins in his first two seasons than anyone on that list.

[@patrickmcevoy5080]

I don't see how he's obviously not top five. I mean, maybe yes, maybe no, but there's an argument to be made. His numbers, his wins, and they eye test all say he's top eight at minimum, and I could argue number five is certainly possible. But after this year, we'll see who's right and who's wrong. That's the fun of playing the games. If he does this year what he did last year, then these arguments will be strictly in the past. By the way, that ranking of Aaron Rogers as #8 is laughable. He didn't even play last year, he's coming off a major injury, he's 40, and the last year he played with Green Bay (22/23) he wasn't very great, either. Far worse statistics and record than Purdy that year, just for instance.

[@jamesalestra5935]

Niners don’t muff a punt and Brock beats mahomes in the Super Bowl and they would still say Brock isn’t top ten. Y’all just gotta stop listening to these haters and keep watching Brock cook

[@davidcase1286]

Negative purdy takes drives social media engagements, that is the data point the haters are using to drive engagement, Colin "great sports talk" cowherd is unflinching in his negative takes on purdy for this reason. it will blow up in his face

[@sammyk988]

Truth is that these guys love to debate rankings and such...constant churning of emotions with no consequence. Does anyone really care where Purdy is ranked?

[@danielmarquezbeerloverandb5354]

Bro, are those hair extensions?!?! 🤔

[@rolandvgomes5647]

Hi Larry. What gets me about the dis respect that Purdy gets from bozos like Nick Wright. When Purdy was hurt in the championship game with the Eagles. Purdy hurt his elbow. 2nd string qb came in. Forget his name at the moment. Well Niners 1st team was in there. And he struggled. Purdy is the straw that stirs the drink. Tremendous drop-off at QB when Purdy is not in there. Nick Wright and others like Colin Cowerd misses this point time and time again. I usually mute them when Purdy comes up. Been watching Niners Since 1966. Grew up watching great QB's. Brodie, Lamonica, Broadway Joe. Bradshaw, Unitas Montana Young etc..Purdy already shown to me he has a very high football IQ. and has quick feet. When it's all said and done in his career. He will be in the HOF. he has that dog in him. Roland

[@RIDDYxMUSICH]

PURDY 😮‍💨

[@MrDavidknigge]

Who cares? All that matters is winning. Personally, I don't think he is as good as most Forty-niner fans think he is. But what difference does it make? None. Go out there and win.

[@sammyk988]

Aiyuk had his best games with Purdy....McCaffrey...Purdy won 4 playoff games and got to the SB as a second year QB. LMAO the idiots who want to figure out if he is making others better vs blah blah blah.

[@danieljordan9004]

Krueg, I think it’s about time to just shave your head. You’re not fooling anyone with that combover.

[@MarineFTW666]

Love your show, haven't watched in awhile. I don't give a fuck about Purdy's "measurables". Maybe year one. Maybe beginning of year two. But after last year, where EVERY significant metric to measure QBs by was used, he led or was in the in the top 3-5 of a particular stat. Statistically he played better than every other QB last year, including the NFLs "anointed, can't do anything wrong" Mahomes. All this bullshit narrative of boosting Mahomes and Jackson, Jesus Christ Jackson didn't even have MVP numbers last year and still...This is why I pulled away from the NFL and only catch bits and pieces now and again. It's a joke. I watched NFL pundits and media asses come up with every excuse to not include Purdy, even though the same 49er players with a different QB did not put up as good of numbers. 4 players over 1000 yards catching. Fine, if not Purdy then it's McCaffrey, right? "Oh, no can't be him either" insert bullshit reason why. Keep up the good work. You're one of the very few who's worth watching.

[@dylanaustin5234]

Nah I put him in 5

[@danielshchyokin3047]

Goff, Hurts, Tua are "top 10" but not nearly as good

[@danielshchyokin3047]

Neither is Dak. So at worst he's #6

[@Steve-v3b]

This is the insane part, when it was Brock, Trey , and Jimmy , in camp that preseason, I told niner fans, Brock was better than the other two by far. I was laughed at and scoffed. Ow fast forward today and all these niner fans are saying Brock is legit, 🙄 I’m here to say today that Brock is a good QB but def a beneficiary of a great team around him… he is very good for shanahan system but him ? Himself with the qualities stand alone? He’s about 10-15 in the league . I say this , a top 5 qb would have read that blitz in the Super Bowl and gotten that 1st down to all but ice the game in the Super Bowl … Again, not to say Brock is bad, but he is not what you think he is. Look no further than the hype with Jimmy G, they had identical stats in the sample size when Cmac came over , and when Jimmy left to the raiders? He stunk it up with a completely diff team. So stop complaining about the rating of what Brock is. Just be glad you paying him Pennies and can keep an all star team together so far

[@MrScottr1958]

#1: Mahomes #2 Everybody else.

[@mre8774]

Overrated. Good QB in an elite system.

[@moody4tech635]

How many people have to tell you Purdy is mid for you to believe it.

[@vincenttalley5938]

So far, a lot more people (& more reputable people) have said he's really good. But alright.

[@dakotastyles]

When he actually starts playing as a mid but he plays better than a mid so he’s actually not a mid.

[@dluxx7378]

How many people have to tell you Purdy is franchise for you to believe it? He had a better season than your guy, whoever that guy is, is my guess.

[@moody4tech635]

@@dluxx7378 I know Purdy is a good franchise quarterback. He's just not top 10. My guy won the superbowl.

[@moody4tech635]

@@vincenttalley5938 A 12 to 17 ranked quarterback is good. You get all in your feelings when people who know the game say he's not top 10 or elite. Purdy is good so be happy about that and be thankful all the elites are in the AFC.

[@Mysterio-Solar]

Top 10 ? Brock Purdy clearly is a Top 2 QB in the NFL at worst . If Trevor Lawrence is at 55 Million per Season , Brock is at 60 Million per Season worth . Kyle Shanahan Is a Legendary 9 - 30 as a Head Coach without Jimmy and Brock Purdy . So Kyle is a Floundering Fool with Other QBs in SF . Kyle was 17 - 4 last Season with Brock Leading the way like a Vet . Brock has transformed Kyle Shanahan's Jimmy G Led Beebee Gun Offense into an Assault Rifle Vertical Attack / Running QB Offense adding Two TDs More Per Game . Brock has led the 49ers to Two NFC Title Games , and a SB in his First Two Seasons which is absurd Production for a Top 10 Draft Pick QB , let alone the Last Pick in the draft to lead . Brock hung 42 Points Per Game on Two Great Defenses last Season , Eagles and Cowboys . He won the QBR Title Last Season and was Top 5 at least in Many Passing Categories . He led the MVP Race Most of last Season In a Legit Vote and was robbed of the Award . Brock is Clearly the Best QB in the NFC . 😵🧐🤨🤔😉🫡🫣👀🤯😶‍🌫️🔥💥💫🌟✨⚡💯🤦❤️‍🔥🦄💍🏆👑🚨🫢🐎🎸💰