Tombstone (1993) - MOVIE REACTION

[@philipturner9087]

Val Kilmer’s best film fantastic performance. Sadly he never got even nominated for best supporting actor frankly he should have won it.

[@davidcollver6155]

Apparently he wasn't socialist enough, woke enough.

[@jamiemacdonald436]

Wow, what a brilliant statement. @@davidcollver6155 🤡

[@ZelbeQahi]

@@davidcollver6155 Please, keep Trump in your pants where he belongs.

[@rickwelch8464]

@@davidcollver6155 Dumbest comment of the month

[@xstatixtribalelectronicmus2787]

@@davidcollver6155 stop being a snowflake

[@davechaney1452]

Doc twirling the cup is more than just mocking Ringo. He duplicates every move Ringo made, putting him on notice not to mess with him.

[@RamblersInc]

Oooh I didn't think of it that way. Good catch

[@DeathswingKettlebell]

Morgan was buried where I grew up in colton, California because their parents lived there. The public museum has gun recovered from the famous OK CORAL gunfight

[@FrenchieQc]

Kilmer spins both guns in different directions at 18:08, this is incredibly difficult to do so smoothly. And he's still holding his cup as well. And one of the most amazing things about Wyatt is that he never suffered a gunshot wound, ever, despite all the fighting he got involved in. His hat, coat, pants were shot full of holes, the heel of his boot was struck, the saddle horn was shot off, but he himself never suffered a scratch.

[@RamblersInc]

Never suffered a gunshot wound? That's so crazy. A miracle in the least.

[@gibsongirl2100]

As great as everyone was in this movie, an they really were - I think that the universal opinion is that Val Kilmer absolutely stole the movie! Just mesmerizing!

[@enuff2u]

Wyatt Earp and Doc Holliday were historical people made famous from The Gunfight at OK Corral event. As a young child way back in the 1960's, it seemed everyone knew about them in the western states from word of mouth.

[@SatsumaTengu14]

Doc Holiday was a Dentist so 'Doc' and he was from Georgia. Val Kilmer did an incredible job.

[@RamblersInc]

He did. He should have got an Oscar.

[@Xcris_crosX]

PS: So impressive that you picked up on so much. Most reactors talk too much during the narration in the beginning and don't hear that Doc had TB. Also impressive you recognized so many actors including Hollywood icon Charlton Heston

[@cog4life]

Doc, a “southern gentleman”… he was from Georgia. They spoke with a very distinct drawl. I absolutely love this movie. Great reaction

[@wadeschalk4599]

"I wasnt." Hardest two word line in movie history.

[@Karadjanov]

Loved you reaction. This is an amazing movie and Val Kilmer absolutely got robed of an Oscar for his performance. P.S. When Doc was on his death bed and said "This is funny" it was because of his reckless and dangerous life he always thought he would die with his shoes on but instead he died comfortably in his bed with his shoes off.

[@RamblersInc]

Ahhhh. That scene makes a lot more sense now 👍

[@thomashiggins9320]

Doc Holliday is buried somewhere in Linwood Cemetery, on a hill that overlooks Glenwood Springs, Colorado. Nobody's sure which grave site, though. Earp spent at least part of his retirement as a consultant on old Classic Western films, in Hollywood. That's how he and Tom Mix became friends. Also, the voice-over narration was done by Robert Mitchum, a legendary actor and a contemporary of Charleton Heston's. Mitchum did a few Westerns, but never portrayed Wyatt Earp. He was mostly known for noir detective films, where he was absolutely brilliant.

[@gaillouise8310]

Totally loved Robert Mitcham. Great actor but censured for his use of marijuana, but now thought to be ahead of his time.

[@98nh3609]

Fun fact, that headstone for Lester Moore was a legit headstone. Also, Wyatt not shooting Ike as seen in the movie is what got the Earps and Doc aquitted at the trial. Ike was the primary cause in real life. A lot more to it, but pretty much it was seen as self defense

[@RamblersInc]

This all went to a proper trial ?

[@98nh3609]

@@RamblersInc Some of it did. There was a trial for the actual gunfight. Also the brothers being shot happened two separate days. The death of which one died also went to trial and they were found not guilty and that's what started the revenge ride. Also Marshall White's death was ruled an accident based on testimony from Wyatt and White himself. It was chalked up to Curly Bill being drunk, and mechanical issues. Wyatt testified he thought the hammer was at half cock and a misfire occurred. White testified before his demise, Curly Bill didn't seem to know the gun was still loaded

[@tazjammer]

Earp saying I don't think I'll let you arrest us today is historically correct

[@RamblersInc]

badass line

[@tysoncromwell2684]

The actor that plays the cowboy with the thick moustache that's one of the three killed at the shootout at the OK Corral is Wyatt Earp III; Wyatt Earp's real life cousin.

[@ranger-1214]

I've been to Tombstone several times when I lived in El Paso, as I enjoy the old West and the books by Bob Boze Bell. Lots of gunfighter history in El Paso (the Four Dead in Five Seconds gunfight), southern New Mexico (Billy the Kid and Pat Garrett) and then over in Arizona in Tucson and Tombstone. Also I've been to where Ringo was found and buried at the foot of a tree by a creek. It's on private property about 35 miles northeast of Tombstone. The owner allows people in, and the story is a shot was heard in the afternoon of July 13th 1882 somewhere in the area, but no one investigated. The next day a woodcutter found Ringo slumped against a tree with his pistol and a head shot; he was buried right there. Many thought suicide, called so by the Coroner, although two riders had been seen earlier looking for him and may have set it to look like suicide. Despite claims for Wyatt or Doc to have done it, records show that Wyatt wasn't even in Arizona (possibly Colorado with Doc) when it happened, and Doc was is in a court in Pueblo, Colorado on both the 12th and 14th on trial for larceny. Although very commercialized, Tombstone is still interesting to visit if you do some homework.

[@adamskeans2515]

That "no les no more" tombstone is an actual tombstone in the graveyard in Tombstone, you can see it if you visit

[@bobkatfan2013]

The Lester Moore tombstone was real. Laudanum was an early opiate.

[@sandbagger57]

Doc Holiday was from Georgia. He was a brilliant student who was ready to be a Dentist at 19. TB made him go west. His Hungarian girlfriend was big nose Kate. Wyatt Earp's Jewish lady was Josephine Marcus. They lived in California, and he was around movie sets with young actors like John Wayne talking about the West. Josephine protected his legend with the book by Lake that became the popular TV show. Ringo was found dead sitting by a trail. Murder or suicide it was never determined.

[@gordonhaire9206]

Stuart Lake's biography was pure fiction.. Earp was a pimp,horse, thief and hired gun. The Cochise Cowboys were not the brutal murderers this fairy tale makes them out to be. The Earps were worse than the cowboys. They were hired to run the cowboys out of town.

[@brkaz5864]

Classic and one of the best Westerns ever. Born, raised and still live an hours drive from Tombstone. City, all the buildings, and OK Corral still there largely tourist attraction now. A yearly celebration of the movie draws some of the stars. Movie took license with some historical facts but it played out pretty much how real history played out. Saw many of the stars in Tucson while filming. Wyatt is buried in Colma, California. Doc Holliday was truly a southern gentleman born in Georgia and trained as a dentist.

[@richlisola1]

Technically Wyatt and Maddie were never wedded. The fact that Wyatt never married her during their time together, speaks to his subconscious realization that she wasn’t the one for him. RIP Maddie

[@adamskeans2515]

yeah, but even back then there was such a thing as common law marriage

[@el34glo59]

​@@adamskeans2515This

[@tomscott8078]

Guys! Instant Charlton Heston catch!

[@RamblersInc]

Iconic legend

[@chuckschulze6877]

This is a great movie and it doesn't stray too far from actual events. When Virgil got shot in the arm, the DR literally defleshed that arm and removed the bone chunks then sewed it back up. The scene at the creek in real life was easy more interesting. Wyatt has holes all through his clothes, he has tried to ride away and a bullet hit the stirup and cut it away from the saddle and he fell... I mean if you read what first hand witness reported, they could never put it in a movie cause no one would Believe it. The interesting part tho is that for years after this, Wyatt and his brothers were considered the bad guys but society. It wasn't until Wyatt released a book with his version and Hollywood adopted Wyatt's version that Wyatt became a hero.

[@Heywoodthepeckerwood]

The Erps, were wrong in this.

[@tduffy5]

Wyatt was famous because of his service in Kansas. They had "cowtowns" at the railheads where the herds were driven. Wyatt had been able to tame the towns in which he served. He was a legend before he got to Tombstone.

[@Salguine]

For what it's worth...the grave marker reading "Here lies Lester Moore/Four slugs from a .44/No Les no Moore" actually was a real headstone in the Tombstone cemetery.

[@kallreader7376]

Doc Holliday was from the state of Georgia. Kilmer did a fantastic job. there have been multiple movies re: Wyatt Earp and Doc Holliday, and Kilmer’s interpretation outshines the others. wyatt’s reputation was formed from his time in the Kansas cowtowns as a lawman. but killing wasn’t the only way to make a reputation. he was considered very tough in a rowdy environment.

[@shanepye7078]

Laudanum is liquid opium, and it was prescribed for everything back then. It’s also used in the absinthe ritual of putting laudanum on the sugar cube.

[@RamblersInc]

Wow. That’s a dangerous cocktail

[@sylvesterbestertester1013]

Everyone loved Vals performance. He just brought so much to that character. Everyone was good in this movie, but most people loved Vals performance the best. It would not have been nearly the same without him.

[@luciusjulius8320]

Doc Holliday was from Georgia. He contracted tuberculosis and moved to the Southwest for his health.

[@RamblersInc]

😔

[@thedrudgetick]

"Let's finish it." Well certainly. The last charge or Wyatt Earp and His Immortals" That's actually a famous book title about Wyatt.

[@RamblersInc]

Such an impactful line

[@jenfries6417]

I enjoy reactions to my favorite western of all time, but once again, I must speak in defense of Big Nose Kate Horony Cummings, Doc Holliday's girlfriend. This movie ended up cutting out most of the women's stories in the final edit, and it makes Kate come out looking pretty bad. In reality, Doc and Kate were together on and off for many years. She nursed him through some of the worst bouts of his illness, and she cared deeply about him. It was not that she didn't care about how sick Doc was, but that she knew he was never going to change his ways. You have to realize, Doc didn't start as an outlaw. He started out as a dentist, but his cultured, civilized life was ended when he got TB. As the movie told us, he went west for his health, like many other victims of TB, and in the course of events, he discovered a hidden talent with guns. It was pretty remarkable, actually. I personally think that his whole fighting, gambling, crime-committing lifestyle was a quest to die of anything other than his disease - only he was too good a gunfighter. In the end, the TB got him. There was no way he was going to quit smoking, drinking, and all the rest of it. Kate knew that, and maybe she was enabling him, but she was also respecting him and sticking with him. They fought a lot, broke up a lot (in fact, they broke up over his insistence on joining Wyatt in the war with the Cowboys), and they got back together a lot. In fact, although it's not shown in the movie, she was there, helping to care for him when he died. PS: I agree with you about Val Kilmer's performance. He stole the film, out of a cast who were also brilliant. That was a Virginia accent - specifically an antique accent that is now extinct. I think examples only exist in early sound recordings. He went to the trouble to learn it with a coach. Wyatt Earp was actually famous before he got to Tombstone. That's why everyone kept trying to offer him law enforcement jobs. Even though he only ever killed one man before Tombstone, he fought crime just by being a complete and total badass - his true superpower.

[@RamblersInc]

You've definitely painted her in a better light than the move did. I wonder why they did that. I get it. If Doc's made up his mind, there's not a lot she could have done. That wasn't Wyatt's only superpower........you forgot about his magnificent moustache 😂

[@crconway7926]

They did not break up because of the Earp/Cowboy confrontation. Kate got drunk mad at Doc and signed an affidavit implicating him in the attempted robbery and murder of the stagecoach that some of the Cowboys actually did. The Earps had to find some witnesses to attest that Doc was no where near there when it happened. The judge through out Kate's testimony because it was proved that she lied. Kate and Doc were on very shaky ground, relationship wise, for a few months after OK Corral. He then left for Colorado and did not see her again.

[@jenfries6417]

@@RamblersInc Apparently, the making of this movie was a hellish mess, including a mid-production switch from one troublesome director to an even more troublesome director, each with different creative visions. It's true movie magic that the final product is so good, but if you peer through the glamour of the actors' performances and the excellent set and costume design, you can see the signs of choppy editing, story lines getting dropped, characters who clearly must have had weightier roles originally, etc. The women being written in but getting almost completely cut out was just one of Tombstone's issues.

[@EdenMcCoy-rt9hp]

​@@RamblersIncI've also read quite a lot that Wyatt didn't enjoy resorting to shooting people and preferred to actually fight them and/or pistol whip them, as we saw him do several times in the movie. He was great at it 😅

[@Evocati2008]

Holliday's line "This is funny" right before he passes away was commenting on the fact that he was dying with his boots off, referring to in the Old West that most gunfighters died with their boots on (in a gunfight). Holliday's accent was deep Georgia.

[@riff8114]

Tombstone was a Silver town ..The wife and i just visited there. We live AZ

[@RamblersInc]

It must feel like getting in a time machine to the past.

[@albertmassingo4249]

Wyatt Earp was famous before this, he was good at his job without killing. That he could do it and be famous back then was amazing..

[@RamblersInc]

Surely there must have been fake stories going around at the time for him to earn that much respect and fear from criminals without a single kill?

[@casualcausalityy]

​@@RamblersIncTo straighten up a lawless town without violence was more noteworthy and the story would pass down the trails quickly

[@catherinelw9365]

Great reaction, guys. Val Kilmer stole every scene, didn’t he? “I’m your huckleberry”. The best western on screen was a tv series (4 episodes), “Lonesome Dove”, starring Tommy Lee Jones and Robert Duvall. Based on the Pulitzer Prize winning novel, it’s about a cattle drive by a bunch of old Texas Rangers on their last adventure, from Texas to Montana. It’s the quintessential American story of the Wild West.

[@RamblersInc]

What a line.

[@jencb9565]

Totally agree with you on 'Lonesome Dove"! Such a wonderful novel.

[@catherinelw9365]

@@RamblersInc At work, whenever there’s a special project we are assigned, we always said that line jokingly to each other.

[@catherinelw9365]

@@jencb9565 I think they’d enjoy it!

[@Blue-qr7qe]

The best Western on-screen (silver screen) may also have starred (co-starred) Robert Duvall: OPEN RANGE (2003) Kevin Costner; Robert Duvall, Annette Bening. Directed by Costner. His first successful directorial foray since DANCES WITH WOLVES (1990). He has another Western on the way (i almost unintentionally punned) titled HORIZON. It's rummored to be a 4- movie series about the West before and after the Civil War. These will be co-written, directed by, and star Kevin Costner. I'm stoked. But definately check out OPEN RANGE. Great reaction, btw. I wish the movie window was a little larger, but all in all, good job. I subscribed. Peace -

[@dukerollo1116]

The tombstone you read at the beginning was an actual tombstone at tombstone

[@carolynwilliams4877]

Fun Fact: Glen Wyatt Earp III played the role of Billy Claiborn. He is a direct blood relative (fifth cousin).

[@qa1327]

Great reaction. Love this movie. So many great lines and moments.

[@lewstone5430]

Probably already mentioned on here, but laudanum was a narcotic painkiller used in medicine back then. It was alcohol mixed with morphine. Doc Holiday came from a well-to-do family in Georgia. He became a dentist (Doc) as a young man, but switched to gambling full time and went out West. Val Kilmer studied Southern aristocratic speech for the role. Lastly, I was fortunate enough to visit Tombstone once for the day. Very cool experience. I especially liked the Birdcage theater which had a brothel in the basement.

[@GrumpyOldGuyPlaysGames]

Tombstone was a silver boomtown, actually, as well as a cattle town. The credits say that George P. Cosmatos directed this movie, but the truth is, Kurt Russel was the real director. The Cowboys weren't the criminal gang seen in this movie. Or rather, they weren't active criminals in Tombstone. (Under the principle of not crapping where you ate). Rather, they'd range over the Mexican border to steal cattle and horses and rob banks, and then retreat back into Arizona, where the Mexican federales couldn't reach them. They had a lot of local support and helped consolidate local resistance against northern industrialists, with whom the Earps allied themselves. Their feud with the Earps, however, was quite bloody and the Cowboys weren't above murdering the Earps and their supporters after the OK Corral gunfight. Doc Holiday's full name was John Henry Holiday. He was born and raised in Griffin, Georgia (the source of his accent). His nickname "Doc' comes from the fact that he was a fully trained and qualfied Doctor of Dentistry. Mattie Blaylock and Wyatt Earp were never formally married, though they did live as a married couple for several years. By the time the Cochise County War between the Cowboys and he Earp started, Mattie had flitted off with another man, abandoning Wyatt. She died some years later of syphillis. Johnny Ringo wasn't the bloodthirsty psycho he's portrayed as here. He did have a reputation as a gunfighter, but was only linked to two actual shootings. He even served as a town marshal on three different occasions, and by all accounts was an honest and efficient law-enforcer. He was even elected to the Cochise County governing board prior to the arrival of the Earps. It was never proven that Doc Holliday killed Johnny Ringo. At trial, the shooting of Marshall Fred White was ruled an accident, Wyatt Earp himself testified on behalf of Curly Bill Brocious, pointing out that the pistol Brocious used, the 1875 Colt Patterson .45 Caliber Single Action Revolver, was well known for misfiring. Even Fred White himself, who did not die immediately, but lingered for several days, made a statement to the effect that he knew that Curly Bill did not mean to shoot him, and that he forgave him for the accident. There were actually five Earp brothers present in Tombstone at this period (in addition to Wyatt, Morgan, and Virgil, there was also James, and Newton). The youngest Earp brother was actually Newton, not Morgan. Val Kilmer achieved the sickly, emaciated look he had during this movie by living on a diet of nothing but tomatoes, celery, and onions, along with vitamin pills for nearly a month prior to the film beginning production. The scene between Kurt Russell and Billy Bob Thornton wherein Wyatt Earp ejects Johnny Tyler from the Oriental Saloon was 100% ad-libbed. Thornton was told, "just be a loudmouth bully who finally runs into someone he can't intimidate" and he and Russell took it from there. Billy Claiborne, one of the Cowboys killed during the shootout at the OK Coral, was played by Wyatt Earp III, the great-great grandson of Virgil Earp. The fight at Iron Springs, where Wyatt waded into the river to kill Curly Bill, actually happened just as its portrayed, with Wyatt wading into gunfire and surviving without a scratch. The Lester Moore tombstone was real and can still be seen in the Tombstone cemetery.

[@RamblersInc]

Thanks for the lovely bits of trivia 👍 Why would they have local support ? As in civilians or they paid people off to ally with them? Ahh shame that the Ringo death in the movie was fiction, because that was badass. Tomatoes, celeries and onions for a month? 🤢🤢🤢 The one thing in the movie I thought would be embellished is Wyatt wading into gunfire....and that's the bit that was real 😂😂😂

[@GrumpyOldGuyPlaysGames]

The Cowboys brought a lot of money into the area, and had deep-rooted family connections hence their popularity. This is similar to how the Mafia was popular in New York City in the 1910s and 1920s. They had money and spread it around freely. The cause of Johnny Ringo's death was a single gunshot to the head, but there were no witnesses to the killing. Ringo had been seen earlier in the day riding in the area, and according to Deputy Sheriff Billy Breakenridge, had been "visibly drunk and of low demeanor", by which Breakenridge explained that Ringo looked "upset and sad". Ar about 3 pm on July 13th, 1882, workers at the nearby Goodrich horse ranch who were out cutting trees for firewood heard a single shot. When they investigated the shot, they found Ringo's body alongside a widely used horse trail. The coroner's report noted that "He had evidently traveled but a short distance in this foot gear." There was a bullet hole in his right temple and an exit wound at the back of his head. The fatal wound was upward at a 45-degree angle between the right eye and ear. His revolver was still in his right hand." This pistol normally held 6 cartridges, but when found was only loaded with four. His horse was found eleven days later about 2 miles away with Ringo's boots still tied to the saddle. The coroner officially ruled it a suicide. and seversl of the surviving Cowboys did admit that Ringo would often fall into drunken depression and threaten to kill himself. Despite this, legends sprung up that he was killed by Holiday, or Earp, or even some of Earp's other followers, like Henry Hooker (played in the film by Charleton Heston), or Frank Leslie (Played by John Baradino in the film). And now you know what I chose to do with my PhD in history: note the differences in historical dramas between reality and fiction.

[@RamblersInc]

Yep that definitely reads as him ending himself. Looks like you're a Doc yourself 🙌

[@EdenMcCoy-rt9hp]

​@GrumpyOldGuyPlaysGames what a fascinating profession. That's so cool!

[@ClancyWoodard-yw6tg]

Ladanum Was a Opium laced Medication that was very common during time Which made it very addictive Now Tombstone was a silver mining town

[@GrannyMetalheadTV]

Great reaction guys!!! I really loved that you knew who Charlton Heston was. That was a shock because most people your age never heard of him. 🤘Rock On!🤘 Kelly

[@shaharadegan9993]

Fantastic reaction 😊❤This film never gets old, it’s such a great re-watch😊

[@balansboy]

Great movie. Not historically accurate, but based on real people and some of the scenes are accurate. One of the most quotable movies ever and Val Kilmer killed it.

[@adamskeans2515]

yeah, you don't really look to Hollywood for historical accuracy

[@kenyattaclay7666]

They took some liberties but it’s more accurate than you think. From a historical standpoint it’s nowhere near as inaccurate as movies like My Darling Clementine or Gunfight at the OK Corral.

[@ivanord1764]

This depicted the famous Gunfight at the OK Corral. Heston was Henry Hooker, a famous and tough rancher of the time. Laudanum was an opiot derivative and highly addictive. Holliday was the fastest gun in the west. Billy Brosun and Johnny Ringo, aka the Ringo kid, and Ike, were witnesses at a trial in a Kangaroo court against the Earps. That the film didn't show

[@dougrichie7864]

If you’ll notice, Doc never flinches in the whole movie because he doesn’t care if he dies. Flinches as in surprise gunshots.

[@christophershawn3938]

Wyatt Earp was also famous for Dodge City. The town of Tombstones is cool to visit. A lot of the buildings are still there and you can see the OK coral. Going into active saloons is really cool

[@nebiros_at9473]

Tombstone was a gold rush town/boom town. The Peacemaker was a Colt revolver. (Colt Single Action Army). You guys should fish up Unforgiven at some point.

[@fionnmaccumhaill3257]

Tombstone was a silver town I think.

[@embraceyourweirdness70]

Val Kilmer's role is one of the best roles ever....

[@RamblersInc]

FACTS !

[@tduffy5]

The accent that you hear from Doc Holiday is just Kilmer's approximation of a southern accent. Doc was from Georgia. He had become a dentist (hence Doc) and he fell in love with his cousin. Her family rejected the relationship and sent her to a nunnery. Doc went west because it was thought that the drier climate would ease his TB symptoms.

[@jeffreybaker4399]

Kilmer steals it. You noticed Charles Heston. Most people miss that. And very few people notice that Robert Mitchum does the narration. Love the movie. But as others have pointed out and is the case with the vast majority of movies, it isn't good history. For one thing, the real Earps and Doc were shady, to put it mildly, themselves. Virgil was more of a solid citizen. The town is still there and isn't that bad as tourist traps go. Mining was for silver. Had a couple of friends who were still prospecting in the area, as a hobby, up till about 20 years ago. Another good reaction, guys.

[@RamblersInc]

Shady as in ? Just as bad as "The Coyboys"?

[@catherinelw9365]

@@RamblersInc Not as bad as the Cowboys, but they were not angels, for sure. Lawmen and criminals had a gray area between them and that area was frequently crossed.

[@jeffreybaker4399]

@@RamblersInc Good question. Unfortunately, I am not a talented enough writer to summarize what authors have spent years putting into book form. Politics were plentiful and serious in Tombstone. Politics were connected to money (you commented about Behan seeming to have a lot of jobs). All kinds of schemes were cooked up for wealth. One of them, ironically, involved Wyatt and Ike Clanton working together with Clanton betraying some of his friends for money. The scheme was to set up the alleged stagecoach robbers to be captured by the Earps so as to get Wyatt elected to the lucrative job of sheriff! Fear that the other would let the secret slip may have been material to both preferring to see the other dead. Real history is much crazier than the movies.

[@stevenspringer1599]

Because I enjoy your reactions (and because you recognized Charlton Heston): I know this isn't the way to do it (so sue me) but these are outside the patreon-poll box: "The Asphalt Jungle" (1950) - a seriously excellent crime caper "Ice Station Zebra" (1968) - a '60s blockbuster action/thriller "Jeremiah Johnson' (1972) - the best mountain man movie "The Red Badge of Courage" - a 1951 American Civil War film

[@L77045]

Just found you guys and enjoy your reaction style! Seems more legit than a lot of channels and appreciate not being over the top on everything. Subbed and looking forward to working through your content. Keep it up!

[@RamblersInc]

Thanks for joining us 🙂

[@kentgrady9226]

Tombstone was a silver mining town, probably a bit of copper, as well. The West, from Mexico to Canada, was littered with booming mining camps. Tombstone was famous because of its ties to Wyatt Earp and the Gunfight at the OK Corral. Deadwood, present day South Dakota, is arguably more famous still. Regardless of notoriety in present day folklore, they were only two of hundreds of camps. The HBO series, Deadwood, would be excellent reaction fodder. It swerves dramatically from true history, but is nonetheless quite authentic in its depiction of that era in American history. One thing both Tombstone and Deadwood get right, is that very few people who prospected for silver/gold/whatever, actually got rich. It was the saloon keepers, brothel owners, hoteliers, liverymen, and equipment salesmen who truly made out like bandits. Neither series made direct reference to exactly how big the money was there, but it was huge. In the initial meeting, Curly Bill wins $500, then immediately scatters it and buys drinks for the house. In today's money, that's roughly equal to £40,000. The closest modern comparison would be the Baaken oil fields in western North Dakota. At its peak, skilled laborers like pipefitters, were earning $300k/year. Parts delivery drivers were making $150k. Fast food workers were making $60-70k. But, it was also the most expensive housing market in the US - more than New York, San Francisco, or Washington DC. A gallon of milk cost $12. The oil fields were also dangerous places, much like the Old West. The safety conditions at drilling sites were criminally negligent. The hours were brutal. Drug abuse was common. And, by some estimates, up to 20% of the workers were either paroled violent criminals, or had outstanding arrest warrants for violent crimes. I had the opportunity to go. I was made an extremely attractive offer (on paper). But I had heard the horror stories and did the arithmetic. Factoring in my existing obligations, the outlandish cost of living, and the elevated rate of taxation, I was better off with a fraction of the pay in my existing situation.

[@RamblersInc]

I can imagine the chance of actually striking rich was low. Those numbers are CRAZY ! But I'm assuming pipefitting was/is a dangerous job as well. $150k as a delivery driver 😵. Damn those oil fields alone sound like the wild west. Maybe it's better off you didn't go.

[@annealissa]

I live 20 miles from Tombstone. It's one of my favorite places.

[@marcjmorin8892]

Wyatt Earp made a name for himself in Dodge City KS. The movie called Wyatt Earp with Kevin Costner and Dennis Quaid as Doc Holliday goes into a little more detail.

[@8044868]

Ike Clanton survived the "Earp Vendetta Ride." He and several associates continued cattle rustling. In 1887 the Apache County Stock Association hired detectives to track them down. Jonas Brighton shot Ike through the heart on June 1, 1887.

[@RamblersInc]

How he survived that long, I'll never know. Especially the cowardly way the movie portrays him.

[@VineVitumEt5]

Doc Holiday was a dentist who was infected with Tuberculosis from a patient.

[@jenssylvesterwesemann7980]

Marvellous movie! There is an interesting take on this, the 1971 film "Doc", staring Stacy Keach and Faye Dunaway. I haven't seen ist in quite a while, but I remember it as a rather sobering look at the myth of Wyatt Earp and the famous gunfight at the O.K. Corral. And even after 30 years, I can't wrap my mind around the fact that the actor playing Ike Clanton (Stephen Lang) is the same one who later played tough-as-granite Colonel Miles Quaritch in 2009's "Avatar".

[@RamblersInc]

Oh my god. I can't believe that's him🤯🤯🤯

[@adamskeans2515]

and Stephen made sure he was pissed drunk every time Ike was in the scene, to capture his character right.

[@dianeritthaler7792]

My favorite Western. Some amazing lines in this movie

[@tazjammer]

Basically, historically correct. As in 1973 Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid.

[@witcheshour9718]

In real life after the fighting was over. Wyatt took doc to a hospital in Colorado. Stayed with him till he passed

[@brodie6222]

the grave marker about Lester Moor is a real grave marker in Tombstone.

[@geraldjackson3921]

That's opium that she's hooked on

[@RamblersInc]

Yep. Hooked really badly as well. Sad

[@ernestitoe]

Laudanum is opium dissolved in alcohol. In the west, it was thought to be a cure-all. It was true that Mattie had headaches, but she became addicted to the stuff.

[@RamblersInc]

That's a shame. Not surprised either, especially with that mixture.

[@arjunapartha]

Only for you guys; Doc ACTUALLY says “I’m your huckle-bearer” …as in the handles of your casket, “huckles” meaning I’ll help you to the cemetery.

[@RamblersInc]

Aaahhhhhh. I never knew that's what it meant. Thanks for this bit of info. Sounds like a much better insult now lol.

[@kevinmarshall854]

Did you notice thatAeven drunk Doc was spinning gis guns separately but when he spun them he spun them in different directions? Theleft gun went one way and the right he spun in the opposite direction!! So he was obviously not that drunk. Either that or it was all muscle memory and that made him very dangerous!! Val Kilmer the other actors said he came on the set he WAS Doc Holliday!! Down to everything that he did and interacted with anyone. What an incredible actor. I was very impressed with him when he repressed his role in the new "TOP GUN: MAVERICK". He is ill now and he has been battling throat cancer but he still did an incredible job as Admiral's "ICEMAN". If you have not seen it you need to react to that movie.

[@RamblersInc]

That's what I was thinking. He's drunk but he's got so good at it that it doesn't matter. Brilliant acting from him.

[@whiskybooze]

"I'd rather live on my feet than die on my knees". Yup this was gold rush that's why guys were signing of deeds to mining sites when they lost to him poker and he said "looks like we're in the mining business now". He was wife basically addicted to a pharmaceutical drug you could go into stores and buy why she immediately when she got there she asked where she could buy it. Peacemaker was a nickname for a lawman and also became one for the firearms they would carry. Yes they are using the thunder as background noise...that's why here in Chicago some of the most shootings happen on the 4th of July because the fireworks going off...helps muffle the sound.

[@RamblersInc]

Oh wow. Didn’t know about most shootings happening on July 4th. Makes sense and yet really messed up.

[@willcool713]

"The Shootout at the OK Corral" is legendary, has grown in the telling on and off over the years, inching toward myth. This adaptation was a modernization for its time, but seems dated enough now to hold up better than it was recieved then, as just a good popcorn movie. The basic facts are true here, but only in the broadest strokes. Beyond that this movie more historical fiction than fact, though it does stay relatively true to period.

[@patticriss2238]

I enjoyed your company. Thank you for your time. Great reaction. I live in Oklahoma. I’m married to a cowboy. They are HARD men. MY HUSBAND DOESNR BELIEVE IN settling scores WITH GUNS. Says real men don’t need a gun. I agree with him. Again, thank you for your reaction. I had fun. My husband looks more like Virgil than Wyatt, but he’s my guy.

[@RamblersInc]

He makes sense. You can solve problems without it. Ahh you got the "silver fox" lol 👌 Especially if he's got that magnificent moustache Sam Elliott has 🔥

[@patticriss2238]

@@RamblersInc he does. Hahaha

[@patticriss2238]

And we have been married for 40 years on Oct 5.

[@teransolo]

The movie portrays the shootout at the OK Corral in Tombstone - that's why you've heard of Wyatt Earp.

[@jimmybobsap8729]

Val spent like 6 months with a dialect coach, why we have one of greatest lines in cinema history "I'm your Huckleberry"

[@RamblersInc]

He nailed it.

[@thedrudgetick]

Excellent movie! Lotta great cinematic background information. Great film to look up. Not historically accurate, but still 50 very cool facts on the film production. Killer cast, too! Lots going on. Curly Bill was played by the incomparable Powers Booth. So many good gems! Check it out! Good stuff! Enjoy!

[@RamblersInc]

Maybe I haven't seen enough movies but has Powers Booth ever played a good guy? He's so good at playing the bad guy

[@thedrudgetick]

@RamblersInc he definitely has an air of menace about him. Even when he's a good guy, he's the good guy that demands your attention! Lol And when he's the bad guy, you can count on him to do some real bad guy dirt! Lol

[@RamblersInc]

😂

[@ruthsaunders9507]

@@RamblersInc He plays the pilot that was shot down in Red Dawn (original).

[@JeffKelly03]

Just watching the reaction now, only about 10 minutes in, but just FYI in case it comes up: yes, Doc was an actual doctor. (Well, technically a dentist, but since dentists are considered doctors.) Y'know. In addition to being a notorious gunslinger.

[@RamblersInc]

No way 😂 A man of many talents

[@sandilar]

Fuckin great reaction! Loved it! Would be interested to see u guys react to Kevin Smith films

[@tduffy5]

The Gunfight at the OK Corral has been presented theatrically many times. This one is different. This one is correographed from the Coronor's Inquest record. There were so many witnesses that they were able to document the positions of each combatant, who shot who, who ran away, etc. What you see here is the actual event with different actors. Hollywood did take liberties with Doc's 5-shot double barreled shotgun and his two Sixty-Shooters.

[@RamblersInc]

Wow. I thought Hollywood would have taken full artistic licence on that gunfight. Amazing that they even have the exact positions of everyone.

[@Heywoodthepeckerwood]

This was a good review. Thanks.

[@EPShockley]

Several lines in this “most authentic Hollywood Western“, are actually supposed to be actual quotes from those who said the lines, depicted in the flick. “I don’t think I’ll let you arrest us today, Behan.“ “…not before I turn your head into a canoe!” “I’ve still got one good arm to hold you with.” to mention a few. The town of Tombstone has had several fires in its long history, as depicted by the burning building shown, in the scene prior to the O.K. corral gunfight. 😉 BTW… Shame that you didn’t get to watch the director’s cut of this classic flick! There’s approximately five short scenes that explain a few things, any certain situation’s. Hopefully you’ll get to check that one out.

[@RamblersInc]

“I don’t think I’ll let you arrest us today” remains the most badass line.

[@mattcal6423]

Doc Holliday was the Pale Horse

[@geraldjackson3921]

Virgil is the oldest then Wyatt then Morgan then the youngest brother name is James but hes not there

[@georgemccormick4786]

TherescalsobWarren, the youngest. Hecwas on the vendetta ride but isnt shown in the movie. He was later killed in a bar fight.

[@notsure9137]

As for his accent, Doc Holliday was from Griffin, Georgia.

[@kathihein5524]

That was Wyatt's actual gun. Kate was called Big Nose Kate.

[@travisdial1730]

I’ve said this several times and I’ll say it agin here. The story of Wyatt Earp should be made into a tv series by hbo or paramount by Taylor Sheridan. There’s so much to draw from it could last several seasons really going into depth about his legend.

[@RamblersInc]

Didn't know who that was so I googled him. He'd be PERFECT for a project like this.

[@mikefetterman6782]

Doc Holiday famously said, that when he dies, he would die with his boots on. At the end, you saw his surprise to his bare feet.

[@mikefetterman6782]

He grew up in Georgia, that is an aristocratic Georgian accent from the 19th century.

[@RamblersInc]

Ahhhh that's why he looked at his feet. 😔😢

[@dianeritthaler7792]

Great reaction

[@johnsmathers190]

Doc was from Ga,

[@williambranch4283]

Good Western, more accurate than most. What happens to underemployed British actors in the old West? Actually, Wyatt Earp never got to write his full memoir. What is not brought out, this was an inter-political rivalry between two agencies, City Police vs County Sheriff, Democrats vs Republicans. So even the documentaries are hypothetical reconstructions (nobody knows who killed Ringo).

[@dianeritthaler7792]

Val Kilmers finest role. Kurt Russell did an amazing job too❤🎉

[@GrouchyOldBear7]

Thanks for the video. I enjoyed it.

[@deanncoates8456]

Val Kilmer was such an underrated actor when in fact, he was brilliant. Such a shame. Please react to Young Guns (about Billy the Kid). Also, Top Gun and a movie called Radio, another underrated actor called Cuba Gooding Jr.

[@antkemp]

I’ve been to tombstone and the Lester Moor gravestone is real and still there

[@kenyattaclay7666]

Tombstone is a classic case where a movie took some liberties with the storyline compared to what really happened but is still a great movie because they still kept to the core of what really happened. For example in real life the cowboys never wore red sashes & they weren’t organized. Also, Wyatt never resisted becoming the sheriff of Tombstone. In fact, he ran for Sheriff against Behan & Morgan was a deputy as soon as they got there. However the conflict between the Earp’s & the Cowboys was real & accurately portrayed. If you guys really want a more accurate depiction of this period you should watch Wyatt Earp by Kevin Costner. While not as good as Tombstone it’s still a really good movie & it dives deeper into Wyatt’s past & answers a lot of questions that this movie doesn’t.

[@stevenguevara2184]

Earp was a living legend

[@Gort-Marvin0Martian]

Basically everything in this film really happened. Of course specific spoken words were no doubt different in some occasions but yeah, Wyatt actually did shoot down Curly Bill in the middle of a river. Doc Holiday was that good a shooter. He might have been unbeatable by anyone of the time. Really like y'all's reactions. As we say in Texas; y'all be safe.

[@RamblersInc]

The balls to do that in the middle of the river with no cover. A miracle he wasn't even wounded.

[@Gort-Marvin0Martian]

@@RamblersInc Yep. But he was a law man. Tough enough that he didn't have to kill so much in Kansas. One??

[@raynavarro7997]

Interesting fact....all the mustaches in the movie were real except one....Jon Tenney, who played Sherriff Behan. He had just finished filming another project and didn't have time to grow one.

[@RamblersInc]

They weren't stuck on ? Why do I find that more impressive than the movie itself 🤣.

[@catherinelw9365]

Speaking of peacemakers, you must react to A Christmas Story during the holiday season, if you haven’t seen it. Hilarious.

[@RamblersInc]

We'll add it to the list 👍

[@philipturner9087]

Doc girlfriend is a historical figure Big Nose Kate I think she was called?

[@angercatalyst]

While it really depends on a LOT of variables, you can absolutely survive a gunshot wound to the head and still retain minimal motor control for a short while like Ringo did. You can even survive a gunshot to the head entirely, of course like I said though, it is dependent on many variables.

[@RamblersInc]

I guess it has to miss certain brain parts?

[@tonyporenshenko425]

The people and places in this film are real

[@frankieDee-g5v]

laudanum is opium.