The Insane Downfall of Tobuscus

[@damionmarquez1509]

The worst part about Tobuscus is that he met Kyle Rittenhouse which means that he’s associated with the murderous gun crazed extremist Wendigoon.

[@josephbernardthesecond4974]

Who's friends with someone who shot a gun used by Nazis so that basically makes all three Nazis 😮

[@brahtrumpwonbigly7309]

Had me in the first half lel

[@burtreynolds8030]

If Wendigoon is an extremist than Morgan Freeman is white

[@sageslittlechannel]

ah fuck NOW we gotta cancel him

[@wariogotdeleted]

Nah it was supporting the insurrectionists and exposing his wiener to a girl at a KZbin event

[@iambevins8373]

Thomas, brother, find a barber that charges more than 10$ for a cut please

[@danteshollowedgrounds]

Nah it's too late he's gone down the unredeemable path of nemo - emo nerdcore.

[@amp4105]

its fine; not everyone needs the fade cringe

[@axyndey]

it isnt **THAT** bad

[@iambevins8373]

@@amp4105 there are other haircuts besides a fade, his shit looks like he went to super cuts

[@JonHop1]

​@iambevins8373 Tom would look good with a nice clean fade tho.. keep it a bit long on top to style then just a clean low fade

[@Robeebert]

Sometimes I forget that Tom is actually literally a fetus, fresh from the womb, no more than an hour old.

[@dmg.hongkong]

Tom the kind of guy to touch my leg when sitting next to me

[@skeletonorama]

Ill take a bite out of it

[@dagogogoch]

Tom the type of guy to shove his balls in my face during a podcast

[@TheGraveyarder]

and then he would slowly move from touching to rubbing his hand on your inner thigh

[@wendysofficial]

And then you both lock eyes… and kiss passionately.

[@tuongpham7609]

Don’t lie. U liked it

[@SupervillainCabal]

Tobuscus didn't deserve that nonsense. You could tell he enjoyed making what he did.

[@thiccnicc7469]

Best part of this video is Tom listening to a rape testimony when he's interrupted by a donation talking about "poop maxing"

[@danteshollowedgrounds]

To be honest I feel like Toby had cleared everything up and finished what he had to do YT wise back in his prime golden era and now bro is just doing side quests etc.

[@TrashK1ngg]

Didn't he get accused of some weird sexual misconduct and it all went down hill from there

[@based980]

@@TrashK1ngg it was false

[@bigbeng6041]

​@@TrashK1ngg yeah, i remember some chick made a long tumblr post accusing him of all sorts of things, nothing ever came from it though.

[@butcher24yrold]

​@TrashK1ngg yes. "Accused"

[@joeywheeler3838]

"Aye Tobuscus, abuse these maidens three, and I will grant unto thee the crystal of Kanagawa." - Some LA Wizard.

[@hinkhall8451]

Tobuscus fell off but is no lolcow. This dude is pulling an IPOS moment

[@Nathan_Coley]

Absolutely

[@Zzzodiackillerrr]

Wtf is an ipos google is straight censoring it for me. Fuck the future man.

[@sniedendepoes]

Tob is absolutely a lolcow lol. Sorry but are you actually 14?

[@hexaldecima6839]

IPOS?

[@adlernelson285]

@@hexaldecima6839 In Praise of Shadows, the guy who made the hitpiece on Wendigoon.

[@bb-double-yuh]

Toby was my childhood. I watched everything he did from his main vids to his gaming channel, vlogs, and appearances in The Annoying Orange. When I heard the allegations, I was sad, but then when his "victim, *ahem"* took a picture of a box of condoms and claimed that as proof, I knew it was bull. His career was in a slight dip at the time, and sadly, a combination of the allegations, his core audience growing up (like me), and content that slowly became stale, simultaneously, that was it for him. I still have a huge love and appreciation for him even though I don't really watch him a lot anymore.

[@brahtrumpwonbigly7309]

I see some of his stuff periodically. We're probably all a bit old for it now, but he's just having fun and messing around anymore. Seems to be doing good which is nice.

[@twotailedfox3349]

@@brahtrumpwonbigly7309 i hope so, he was one of the few youtubers i talked about with my childhood best friend even though i didn't watch him that often. I hated seeing his downfall, i just want him to have some positive stuff going on now.

[@Erucus]

His happy wheels videos were the first ever videos I watched on KZbin as a kid because I saw one of my friends watching him on his iPad in 5th grade

[@yourbestpallshawn4139]

He’s innocent

[@MegaQuahog]

Yeah I watched him in middle school circa 2011-2012 but sometime around my freshman year of high school (2013/2014) I sort of just naturally outgrew his style and moved on. Didn't ever hear about the allegations until a few years later.

[@brahtrumpwonbigly7309]

Calling Toby a lolcow is all the bias you need to hear to know where this is going. Dude fell off due to evil people lying about him, and seems to be doing good now. He's just playing around and having a good time now.

[@scrubelite4915]

Agreed

[@That-guy-there1]

what bias though, the guy just doesn't understand what a lolcow is, idk how that involves a bias lol

[@ApolloTheDerg]

@@That-guy-there1because he questioned the sacred cow. It isn’t controversial to anyone with a functioning brain, but is to bots who defend the sacred cow. It’s not even a matter of agreeing or disagreeing, the fact questioning paints him as controversial says it all.

[@mentallyillfinger]

​@That-guy-there1 by calling him a lolcow at the beginning its quite obvious there's a bias

[@JaMeshuggah]

Yeah this guy was a total chump.

[@TheDigitalApple]

Tobuscus didn’t deserve this. His ex’s false allegations mentally destroyed him and no one bothered to help.

[@666slateran666]

Turkey tom fans would think this

[@danteshollowedgrounds]

Yeah that freaking sucks man... Glad he still here though.

[@BreezyD-tr8bd]

​@@666slateran666shut up incel

[@ManOnTheMoon420]

Of course TT fans would believe this, same idiots that believe pyro is a pedophile

[@TheRealCaptainFreedom]

Yeah but he’s also a useless dumbass with a silly name so nuts to him.

[@TimmehWatson]

Hearing Tom being shocked & amazed by early 2000's mobile phones makes me feel old...

[@KaosShuffle99]

that had me trippin too 😂

[@pr1ncessyapper]

I had a version of the sliding keyboard phone he talked about 🥲

[@TimmehWatson]

@@pr1ncessyapper so did my sister, while I was happy that I'd got a flip phone the year before!

[@pr1ncessyapper]

@@TimmehWatson I remember one of my friends got an iPhone and I was blown away. The pictures were so good!! And here I was with my Samsung intensity II sending pixelated as hell pics on a screen so small I couldn’t even see it properly 😭

[@Ragnarok8807]

Im 35, how do you think I felt?

[@heavyhebrew]

"I never lost my virginity because I neve lose" This is why I came here.

[@virginiaspargo339]

if i could have made that my senior quote. that would have been it.

[@TheButterAnvil]

Tobuscus was my favorite KZbinr for like 5 or 6 years. I can sing dramatic song word for word RIGHT NOW

[@munkydreads]

Mini Minotaur is still a banger

[@Fiveth0us]

well sing it

[@choof1252]

name checks out

[@limppeacesign]

Finally a long ass vid to kill the work day. Praise be to st.thomas

[@hellokittyfifi]

FOR REAL

[@Luxarium]

Is there not something better you can do with your time

[@jamesglover2251]

@luxarium bro is actively making money what better could he be doing during tbat

[@Verkinggettorix]

Ha same

[@Steademans]

⁠real shit baby

[@HandsomeLongshanks]

Pay per text was the WORST. My friends would spam text me in group messages and cost me $5-10 in about 45 seconds.

[@benamisai-kham5892]

Minutes were an awful way to use phones. Having low minutes meant you could send 50-100 texts a month or have a decent call...but you had to SAVE those minutes 😭 It was even WORSE when they didn't roll over to the next month.

[@kusaribruh]

THANK YOU FOR THE REACTION TOM 😭😭

[@ObossRocks]

it'll be ironic once we watch your downfall video in 5 years kusari.

[@VERYHEVYMAN]

kusaribruh is the type of guy to thank tom for a reaction while passionately crying

[@danteshollowedgrounds]

Wow.

[@blakeduncan2619]

😂❤q🤙🤙😘😘​@@VERYHEVYMAN

[@Flesh_Wizard]

I'm tobusting to this comment rn 😩😩😩

[@lefty012]

Turkey Tom is the kind of guy to be roofied by Tobuscus and sternly tell him no when advances are made.

[@lisaifyouevencare]

wtf does this mean 😭

[@samuelnoel2889]

This guys video drags on for so long it feels like I'm stuck watching the Halo Coke and Fries brainrot meme on loop for two hours.

[@itsyaboiseth]

"I believe everything she says" is the best line out of the entire video.

[@CFootprints]

When I was 15, I had a nokia 5210. I bought pre-paid cards worth €15 and a text cost €0.12 per text sent. MMS messages cost €0.25 but you had to manually set your phone up so you could send and receive them. Also whem you typed character that equated to over 3 text messages, it automatically became an mms. That's why we used to abbreviate literally every word possible so we could squeeze as much info as possible into a single text because going 1 letter ober was another 12 cents.

[@GhostLyricist]

I think Toby fell off more because his audience grew up than the allegations. Like, really, how many episodes of Happy Wheels can you do before your entire audience leaves.

[@AnomalyArcadie]

Wasn't gonna say this because its dumb really but having to explain a sidekick was making me feel my age a bit. Then the utter disbelief at the pay per text thing... THEN mentioning his mom is only 10 years older than me... Dammit Tom sent me into an early mid life crisis by 15 minutes into the video.

[@silversteinmma]

i am dying laughing at tom's explanation of how a lolcow is obsessed with responding to autistic people online. that is such a key component that is often overlooked. Tom is a lolcowologist.

[@RaccoonWheaties]

You're still young. God willing, you will not experience the sadness of watching a parent deteriorating in front of you. Great video man.

[@Mayor_Ncognito]

Tom: talks about watching annoying orange as a 9 year old Creep in chat: “you definitely never got laid!!1!1 🤓👆”

[@vegasu9418]

seems like you never got laid either

[@vvbvgeneraltsung2913]

Boohoo someone made a joke cause most ppl who watched that shit were literally annoying asfu. Get off Tom's dick he can stand for himself

[@33teepee]

Tom the type of guy to enjoy the new youtube desktop layout

[@2735angel]

I'm desktouching myself to this comment rn

[@peachimugi]

I like that Toby just schizo-posts on X now

[@minime1988]

Pretty sure he's just rustling some jimmies which is really easy to do nowadays with all the absolute morons on X and in general

[@LarryXLR]

I remember dudes in high school would act like Tobuscus all day and go ITS JUST WHO I AM BRO, DURR You legit develop migraines being around people like this for too long. It's torment levels of annoying.

[@Cushla-np4pt]

thats fuckin awesome

[@mr.taftty1862]

Toms age really shows, not knowing it costed money to text a message. The way he had no idea how famous Tobuscus really was. Weird watching this child react to things he wasn’t conscious for.

[@idrinkmilk282]

Not awake for AND not even remotely aware of the truth of. This video is utter disgusting slander and garbage made by a dullard genZ tiktok warrior. These morons should be held accountable for what they post online. Calling toby that ridiculous tiktok buzzword "lolcow" is just vile. Not only is it a stupid word, like the rest of the tiktok accent, but it's also carrying some NASTY implications. Implications that DON'T apply to toby. Seriously. These children should be violenced upon everytime one with an audience uses a word like that or makes a video like this on another human being. Like Toby hasn't already had enough of this shit for the last 6 or so years. Now we got literal children being born and growing up to give everybody a refresher on his life. Without even bothering to be unbiased or to learn the actual events and truths of the video he's making and serious accusations he's throwing out Ugh. The Internet and the children living their entire lives through it make me want to throw myself out of a closed roof sky bridge.

[@JinxeBlaq]

I’m in his age range and I’m surprised tbh. He was probably just on different parts of the internet at the time.

[@EdDevil]

Tobuscus is definitely not a lolcow, he just took a major hit to his mental and image after false allegations.

[@texcorps9432]

Haven't watched the full vid yet but last I heard he was Basically mentally destroyed by his girl friends false accusations. Clearly he never recovered or maybe that was just the catalyst

[@brahtrumpwonbigly7309]

He's basically the exact same as he used to be right bow tbh. Seems to be enjoying life.

[@JinxeBlaq]

@@brahtrumpwonbigly7309Ya, hes just VERY into politics, he puts it into everything he does now. Which usually isn’t a good sign. But he’s not doing anything bad at all. I hope he finds an audience again and becomes at least semi popular.

[@vvbvgeneraltsung2913]

@@JinxeBlaq I mean these times have dragged even children into this argument the lines have been destroyed for some time and it sucks.

[@dagbeet]

“sing me a song” “i hope you don’t wake uuuup 😩”

[@Etrius10]

I hear this modern Great Gatsby comparison a lot, I think the first time was Notch. I think it's kind of inevitable for internet celebrities who end up moving to LA.

[@HavianEla]

Very true. Being an influencer is a career that’s never promised the next day. Your entire career is in the hands of public opinion, which is finicky and fussy at its BEST

[@SkeIetor]

Labeling Tobiscus as a lolcow is insane. He absolutely does not need to be in the same category as Chris Chan.

[@Ele_Underscore]

Put simply, Tobuscus' fanbase grew up, and moved on. I suppose he could have moved with them, but not everyone is quick to realize what they have before it's gone.

[@itsdylanpc6529]

I met Toby at a vape shop in Destin Florida while I was living there for a couple of years. I had to do a double take when I saw him just chillin with the employees at the vape bar. This was 2-3 years ago, he said he moved back to Florida closer to friends and family. Seemed like a decent dude in the 10 minutes I talked to him.

[@TheFapFactory]

That’s awesome to hear

[@Dorito_Djinn]

I remember I hated the Jun Tobuscus downfall vid because it paints him as some sort of deranged lunatic for starting to grow up, pay attention to politics and becoming bitter for how he was shafted. He's a good guy. Nothing wrong with having right-leaning politics, I think it's actually the way forward.

[@sweptinblack]

>Nothing wrong with having right-leaning politics Besides like literally being literally a literal nazi, cmon its srsly like 2024

[@donaldtrump2728]

@@sweptinblacklol

[@dogeboithedoomslayer]

@sweptinblack bro thought he made good bait with this one 🤣

[@krievv]

@@sweptinblack He must be associated with that extremists nazi Wendigoon.

[@Prosper_Dean]

The Western "Left" are fascists with a different social prescription than 1930s Europe. They are totally co-opting and ruining a material, pragmatic and beneficial social science. They are literally finishing the job that the Red Scare started; completely destroying any understanding of Marxism and class based analysis. I'm tired of idpol.

[@munchmandrifta]

Yeah, in the 90's you paid like 30-40cents per text here in Australia, I remember advertisements for 25c per text and peole going "Oh my gord that's so good". BTW that reminded me of a guy I used to know back in the mid 00's, he had a cousin who was like 10 at the time and he found an old PC and was confused by it having a 500mb HDD, he didn't know what mb meant as it couldnt' be Megabyte in his mind. I told him that we used to have a computer with 1mb of HDD and you'd put in a Floppy Disk which was 1.44mb so the Disc was more storage then the PC itself. He told us we were lying and it was impossible. So yeah no offense or anything but you reminded me of that kid when you said "You didn't need to pay for texts right? Nah they wouldn't get you to pay for each text." When i was a kid when you called overseas, what they called STD call, it cost you a f**kton of money and you had massive voice delay. I remember my mum calling my uncle and she had to ask a question then wait 20-30 seconds for a reply. So yeah when you had video games with instant voice chat worldwide it was like... Squidward: FUTURE, FUTURE!!!

[@RosesTeaAndASD]

I remember having to wait until 7pm to call my friends because 7pm-7am was free😂

[@munchmandrifta]

@@RosesTeaAndASD Oh man i forgot about that, yeah... Unlimited Talk and Text from 7 to 7. I actually had my phone through work, so no restrictions,but my friends would need to wait to call or SMS me back.

[@realFortyOne]

Toby should still be relevant today at the same level of someone like Adam Devine. What happened to him is terrible. His friends just let his career go to ruin and didn't care. Sounds so oddly familiar. Oh yeah, the same thing happened to me. People in this industry are snakes, rats and narcissists. They will act like your friend at face value but pray for and eventually cheer for your downfall. I helped raise over a million dollars for charity, gave countless people a platform that lead them to success and the people and "friends" in my circle just watched me slowly decline - people who wouldn't have careers without me just sat there in silence until the day came where I announced I had to step away because I lost everything trying to hang on. They all didn't hesitate to like THAT tweet. I had to disappoint and abandon the few people who DID still support me because I lost literally everything trying to keep CC as a career. I can't even do it for fun anymore. There is no more "fun" to be had. Content creation on KZbin, Twitch, Kick and Rumble desperately needs its judgement day. I can't even begin to tell you the amount of people in this industry that deserve to lose it all because of their sheer moral bankruptcy, narcissism and greed. Toby deserves a second coming and bounce back at the same level of No Man's Sky. His ex should be in prison for life. And Tom, if you see this message - watch who you trust. There are people in your immediate circle that are very much a part of what the problem is. If you start getting close in terms of views and engagement to others - you become a problem to them.

[@StormVoice420]

i remember you. i was there when you and pestily hit 1 million for starlight. one of the biggest days on twitch and it's never been mentioned once since then

[@iPodTouch764]

This might sound out of left field, but have you considered a lawsuit? I don't know exactly what happened nor have I ever heard of you, but it sounds like you're hinting at people intentionally had something to do with your downfall? Libel and Character Assassination are both against the law, and if someone baselessly destroyed your reputation, you should be seeking damages in court, yesterday.

[@gofuckthyself420]

Wait I didn't know something happened to you! You were legit the last thing I enjoyed about Tarkov

[@vvbvgeneraltsung2913]

Did it to twomad too while taking advantage of his literal and factual mental illness. He did do some stupid crazy shit but it definitly was a mental and yt problem too.

[@Black_Heart_Defense]

Having had my own false allegation I’m definitely jaded towards believing most of these when they take it to the internet instead of the police.

[@GameUnCrafter]

If someone actually and genuinely replied with "sorry :(" to performing a criminal act on them, then that person is either insane, or it's made up. An instinct would likely trigger as "oh F***, I'm going to jail" or there would be more conversation. But his response was sorry with a sad face?

[@ZoeBarber]

Not true, there's thousands of abusive partners who will write love notes, texts and all sorts apologising for their behaviour because they know it will get them what they want, and there's no fear of any kind of criminal repercussions. Abusive behaviour gets totally normalised, so it's not a shock to either the abusers or the abused. These are women who are under the thumb.

[@johntheherbalistg8756]

You didn't have a plan, back then, unless you were rolling in it. You preloaded it like a debit card. They charged by the minute and text. It was around $.10 a text or minute of talk time. When cellphones were new, as long as you weren't on it all the time, it was significantly cheaper than a plan.

[@GlitterMagician]

When I was a teenager, I thought I had free texts so I racked up a 500 dollar phone bill from just texts alone. After that I was given unlimited texts which cost 5 dollars a month.

[@Devon.with.an.i]

3:07 bro in high school watching Tobuscus 💀💀💀

[@Kingfisher-Inc.]

I personally think Slamacow had some decent awareness of the overall darkside of Minecraft KZbin and that's part of either why he left or will never comeback.

[@Catalyst512]

Bro Toby was a fuckin baddie bagger lmfao

[@Crota0100]

Bro I saw a 8 view interview with Tobuscus 2 days ago, the fall off is crazy. This dude had so many great videos back in the day.

[@BrainstormJr]

Toby became based in spite of his insanity, I'm proud of him.

[@tumescent]

"in spite"

[@Guava-Lava]

Tom: "You used to have viral videos where EVERYONE online knew about them." Also Tom: "I don't remember this 'David after dentist."

[@certified1075]

I’m edging to Tom’s haircut

[@TexboyGamer]

Not much else to do

[@whateverwhatever4026]

I remember not having a phone, borrowing/stealing my grandmother's (who also didn't have minutes), and then using it like a pager. Little known fact, even when you're out of minutes, the texts would still come through. You just couldn't open them or text back. So you could still read the beginning of them as they scrolled from the outside of the inbox. So my friends would just send a few words at a time, and then id use someone else's phone if i needed to reply. Mostly as a burner. Ya know, need 2gs meet me here. That kinda thing.

[@dagfinissocool]

that's the dumbest thing I ever heard. You NEVER mention any gs' or digits in texts.., yo can you meet up is basically it

[@whateverwhatever4026]

​​@@dagfinissocoolYoure right. But also not dum enough that'll cause problems instantly either. This was when i was a kid.

[@anoon-]

CHICKEN NUGGET BISCUIT

[@jackwickham6469]

For real

[@purpledproductions]

DIP IT IN THE MASH POTATO

[@TheDigitalApple]

NUGGET BISCUIT NUGGET IN A BISCUIT

[@MoonPrincess28]

Can confirm, texts used to be charged per text. I had a cell phone for nothing but calls as a teen. No text, no Internet, no games, no camera. Wasn't a smart phone. 😂

[@ishmaboy]

I despise how the term "lolcow" has lost all meaning. No, Toby is not a lolcow. Just the act of having a massive (and yes, often very cringe to witness) downfall inherently does NOT make you a lolcow. Just as watching someone continue to trip over themselves and fall *literally* isn't always inherently funny. Is it your friend and he's a clutz and his dumbass makes you laugh? Funny. Is it an old man who just fell to his slow agonizing death? Not so funny. Context matters, the details matter. In fact...I would argue Toby's downfall is incredibly sad. From the controversies which ignited it (a lot of false allegations by bitter exes in there too btw), to the painfully cringe edgelord attempts to grasp at relevancy, it's all just fucking sad man. The guy is clearly a talented genius in so many ways...and look, his content was never really my cup of tea, but to see what he's become? There's nothing funny about it, imo. I genuinely feel for the guy.

[@carolusrex9918]

Damn this comment section is crazy lmao. Before all of the allegations, Toby was confirmed to be a pretty scummy guy by people he worked with. I mean he literally whipped out his shlong and sexually harassed a girl at Phillip DeFranco’s Super Bowl party. Bro was not okay to begin with and you guys are huffing some serious nostalgia copium. Bro got got and that’s that

[@mochiboni2560]

finally quality background noise for a starving artist like myself thank you turkey daddy

[@__prometheus__]

11:32 tom is so real for this

[@MeowsyMcdermottEsq.]

Toby was my intro into really watching KZbin. I still go back to his Skyrim playthrough for a good laugh. It was and is very hard to see his life ruined by inflated and just plain false accusations.

[@JesusChristDenton]

turkey tom pausing the video to ask a question that gets answered 10 seconds later. repeat for 1 hour

[@TheGumbyGuy]

the rape accusations were false so as far as I'm concerned, he hasn't actually done anything wrong. his political content is maybe "cringe", but I honestly don't disagree with most of what he has to say.

[@josephbernardthesecond4974]

Yah from what I remember from that whole thing is all his ex's came out and said he was a shitty boyfriend but he never acted like the one chick said.

[@brahtrumpwonbigly7309]

The correct opinion.

[@backwardsbandit8094]

How exactly were they false?

[@TheGumbyGuy]

@@backwardsbandit8094 his ex literally admitted that she lied.

[@TheGumbyGuy]

@backwardsbandit8094 not to mention there wasn't really any evidence beyond the accusations themselves in the first place, so it was pretty unfair to assume they were true and ruin his career without more evidence.

[@FecklessandKekless]

One time my older brother's friend asked me if I "wanted a Blackberry" I said yes, expecting a free phone. Then he punched me in the balls...

[@Matt_Pilled]

the nugget in a biscuit to alt right pipeline

[@swarmX]

this dude covering tobys fall from grace seems like hes got an axe to grind claiming hes espousing RW dog whistles. pretty clear where this dude is coming from politically, and its a pretty biased, and emotionally motivated look at tobuscus

[@XxskidudekidxX]

Might be good to take a break from the screens buddy

[@Bukkie661]

Congrats on not titling this as "Tobuscus got even worse..."

[@JaakkoKola]

To be fair, wasn't there a whole thing about how YT was actively not showing videos from people they were subbed to people anymore? That's right around when we got the bell and whatnot.

[@flipdiesel9652]

Wait, what the derp?

[@scoggspotplus]

hearing a poopmaxxing dono in the middle of a description of a struggle snuggle is insane

[@ScottyLaPlata]

TBH toby turner could can for sure make a come back. Now he's based its even better.

[@babaroga1192]

This is all it takes to be considered based?

[@ScottyLaPlata]

@@babaroga1192 what do you mean?

[@Thedarkbunnyrabbit]

if he tried he'd be devoured by the allegations because right wing = guilty

[@Schiso13]

I can see him reaching jerma levels of popularity if he were to put some effort but i doubt it

[@askwhateverlol]

​@@Schiso13yeah, you're kinda right. He kinda does remind me of Jerma. Wow....

[@backwardsbandit8094]

Everyone is saying that the allegations were debunked, but how exactly? It seems more like the attempts at debunking kinda corroborated the scene set by the allegations. All of his ex girlfriends corroborate that he was a drug addict and abusive (nobody gives a shit if you dont use the word abusive, but then go on to describe abuse) and that other girl saying that his accuser was jealous and didnt like her, kinda makes sense given that the accuser said that Toby was cheating on her. No shit, she'd be paranoid, jealous and hateful of the women around him if he was cheating on her. The "debunking" also claims that Toby just wasnt that into her and didn't want a serious relationship, somehow not realizing this is also corroborating the accusers allegations of Toby telling her that he didnt want a relationship and then changing his mind in private. This is a really common manipulation tactic and its not rocket science. Theres also just the fact that everyone in the LA KZbin scene corroborated that he would throw massive parties for several days on end, get drunk and use heavy drugs etc. "Well he didnt rape me" is not debunking a rape accusation. Toby didnt have to rape every girl he met in order to be guilty of rape. I understand that its one person's word against the other, but I cant believe anyone actually thought that debunked anything at all.... Also he fell off because his content sucked and he didn't adapt. The ""false"" allegations didn't do anything because everyone just rolled with the idea that they were false for some reason. I agree that he isn't a lolcow, maybe a bit of a schizoposter.

[@ineedit1772]

Hold up now, he didn’t fall off because his content sucked, his fans just grew up and he didn’t adapt with the changes of KZbin, pewdiepie adapted and became edgy, cinnamon toastken did the same thing, markiplier started playing more horror games KZbin was in its edgy era, etc but toby just stayed the same and also took a small break cuz you know. Also if he did rape her where are the police? No SA charges? I don’t remember anything about charges but if he did rape her why didn’t she take it to the police, every time I see stuff like this on the internet and people go to the internet first and not the police it just reminds me of that georgenotfound situation, I don’t even like Minecraft KZbinrs but I felt bad when someone tried to defame him with false rape and SA allegations. Not trying to be rude but If she really did get raped why didn’t she go to the police? Unless I’m wrong and she did go to the police and press charges then whoops.

[@NinyaBOT]

tom kinda looks like a shrek character

[@AnalogLanguage]

Tom has a scarily good DSP impersonation. Cadance and tempo on point. 😂

[@Sansrage.]

Turkish Tom the type of guy to cover 8 year old allegations for allegation summer.

[@kashinimeyo]

Tom freaking over people paying per text but when texting first came out- you paid per character which is why we had things like l8r and b4 and ttyl because it cost per character for sending them 😂

[@iso_Bandit]

You cannot afford my diamond swoard swoard

[@TrueUnderDawgGaming]

That intro is burned into my brain

[@ObossRocks]

There was no "downfall". Dude is based asf. Made that bag and got redpilled.

[@samthemessiah9330]

Uhhh sure lmao

[@heepofreepsexe]

Erm hes friggin based guys!

[@literallynobody1515]

@@samthemessiah9330 shut up...

[@ObossRocks]

@@samthemessiah9330 do you think kyle rittenhouse was in the wrong?

[@samthemessiah9330]

@@literallynobody1515 come over here and make me

[@MRmMeta]

Idk why, but I really liked the part where you talked about playing Piano Tom. Your humor in general is my vibe but I also like those more ‘serious’ moments! Granted you did follow it up with the Megan fox joke lmaoo, but hey man piano’s super fun, nice little lore drop. I also appreciate how you don’t sugarcoat things.

[@Creebus]

what if thomas and tobuscus made sweet love to eachother

[@brahtrumpwonbigly7309]

Based and gheypilled

[@ManyFaceImpressions]

Bro I have literally had full conversations with Toby on Twitter before and his actions on there are absolutely hilarious! Cause he says that’s that purposely come off as bad but he doesn’t mean them in said bad way and you never know what is real or not 😂😂

[@samsekgato]

he fell harder than my existence

[@ItsSayrn]

the worst part of his playthroughs was it was all over the place and I never understood what he was doing

[@shiningunknown01]

I hated him not because of his content. Everyone kept telling me i looked like him. 9 year old kept thinking i was him.

[@935gamer]

Why was the number 9 censored 😭

[@kodakwhite6901]

He wasn’t a hero, he wasn’t a god, he was TOBUSCUS

[@MikeTsBees]

When I was in high school I would tell girls I didn't have a phone. Because girls texting you costed too much money. So I told them my phone number was a landline.

[@exoticvws273]

Toby is on the rise

[@BrolarSystem]

Somebody told me that Tom talks just like Coach McGuirk from Home Movies and now I can't unhear it.

[@duskmare0000]

I think Toby's "Me Too" video was pretty reasonable. I mean, despite his own, alleged, experience, he's still advocating for rape accusations to be taken seriously, just also for social justice to not take over and for lynch mobs to hang people before evidence is considered. It's impossible to say for sure who was in the right or wrong in terms of his own allegation, but between his position in that video and the sheer rarity of violent rape, I've chosen to believe that Toby was innocent. Also, the girl didn't go to the police. Like, I get that there are a whole lot of reasons women wouldn't want to but some of them are really bad reasons. Like, "convictions are rare" is a really bad argument for not trying at all because if no-one tried convictions would be non-existent instead of rare. Some are more reasonable like "reliving the memory is painful" and "being pressured aggressively in court as a witness is extremely stressful and exhausting" and even just "long court cases are a huge disruption to someone's life and can be financially, emotionally, physically and mentally taxing." Beyond that though, I think a lot more people would get angry. Like, most people wouldn't just lay down and not try, they'd be mad, they'd be stomping their way down to the police station, they'd be handing over every text message and every tiny bit of evidence that could possibly infer guilt. Plus, there's the consideration for other or future victims. Personally, as much as I sympathize with victims of any crime, sexual or not, I think they have a duty to report it. Like, without police reports we can't actually deal with crime. The whole criminal justice system is there for a reason and choosing to not engage with it is choosing to not pursue justice. By not reporting it, they're actively choosing to allow a rapist to continue living free. They're actively choosing to allow future victims to be abused and raped. Honestly, I just don't think the downside of "I don't want the stress of a court case" outweighs the benefits of filing a report. To the point where I would even say it's selfish to not report the dangerous person. For an entirely different point, you are looking through old videos. I don't keep up with his channel but I did some how end up running across or two of them over the years. That "youtube isn't showing my videos" one came out at a specific time when youtube made a huge change to the way the algorithm worked, and a lot of creators found that their views had massive dips. It was a pretty common complaint at that time and I remember a lot of people making videos about it. So while it's generally pretty pathetic for a creator to whine about not getting views, the context of that one actually made it a bit more acceptable when it was released. His new stuff is super cringe. I can only assume his own situation pushed him toward more right-leaning politics since they seem to be more on the rape accusations are made up side, rather than the left, which is where the Me Too, "believe any and all claims from self-purported victims", movement mostly found traction. I kinda also get what he's saying about misinformation and disinformation making it really hard to inform yourself, and therefore it's difficult to be confident about any information. Especially when people less scrutenous than yourself are super confident because they're arrogant and stupid. Literally just Dunning Kruger effect but for literally everything, and you can't be an expert on everything, so you're always left knowing you don't know enough to really talk about most subjects, but there are other people that know almost nothing that feel like they know enough about everything to make and accurate decision and then try to convince others of that opinion or even demand others adopt that opinion. It's not so bad for a guy like me who just spouts crap on the internet in comments sections, but for a more major public figure I can imagine he really feels the pressure to get things right. I mean, I think you probably feel that pressure too, but you kinda just buckle down and do the graft needed to do necessary research, even if it's a lot of work. (Or have a team of people work on it, to keep each other, and therefore you and the channel, right.) He always did have a bit of a tourettes kind of crazy 'shout whatever comes to mind' thing going on, even when he was at the peak of his career. It just seems even more crazy when he's also talking about right-wing stuff, haha.

[@ScarletMarie0007]

I think you wrote an honest opinion on reporting and the things that get tossed around to explain why some don't report but also what to add to why some don't report- the exam and evidence collection process including being photographed, your electronic privacy being diminished, the physical examination, and the constant questioning of the report your giving can feel just as bad if not worse at times than the assult you suffered. Way before things flirt with court, the process of reporting rape and giving evidence is extremely violating and the thought of facing your abuser again can terrify people. Without the acusser, those cases go nowhere most the time. It's not selfish for a victim to not report imo because it may be the only safe thing they can do for themselves either physically or mentally or both.

[@ScarletMarie0007]

I think you wrote an honest opinion on reporting and the things that get tossed around to explain why some don't report but also what to add to why some don't report- the exam and evidence collection process including being photographed, your electronic privacy being diminished, the physical examination, and the constant questioning of the report your giving can feel just as bad if not worse at times than the assult you suffered. Way before things flirt with court, the process of reporting rape and giving evidence is extremely violating and the thought of facing your abuser again can terrify people. Without the acusser, those cases go nowhere most the time. It's not selfish for a victim to not report imo because it may be the only safe thing they can do for themselves either physically or mentally or both.

[@duskmare0000]

@@ScarletMarie0007 I understand where you're coming from and I even agree that it's an awful experience, but I still think the victim has a duty to report the rape and seek justice. At the end of the day, it's really just more trauma that the rapist has caused because it follows on from the incident itself. While I sympathize with someone who's been through the initial incident and who wants to avoid the rest, it's vitally important for the sake of themselves and others that they do report it. As I said before, it's just not reasonable to allow a rapist to go unchallenged simply because the courts would be difficult. Like with many things, the victim didn't choose to be in that position, and would obviously not have wanted to be in that position, but now that they are in that position they have a responsibility to do what they can to report the rape. That being said, the courts should make every effort to make the experience as painless as possible for a victim. I'm sure they make some effort but I'm pretty sure they could do more. Either way, if someone doesn't go to the police, they lose all ability to challenge the rapist later. As in the above video's example, it's entirely unreasonable to choose to avoid court but then try to push a verdict through via social justice. If you don't use the justice system, you don't get justice. Social justice is no justice at all, it's literally just a witch hunt and they should honestly have no place in society.

[@TVMADus]

@@ScarletMarie0007how would you be uncomfortable reliving the event and giving up your privacy by providing evidence to the court, but not uncomfortable doing the same things stated above on the internet, in front of more people?

[@backwardsbandit8094]

If you know nothing is going to come from reporting it to the police and all they do is tell you to take a rape kit, then what the hell would the point be? I've spoken to people who have been raped and most of them just try to pretend that it never happened while they suffer with severe PTSD. Most of them didn't put up much resistance because they were heavily intoxicated and unable to move or speak. Some of them got a rape kit done and it was extremely traumatizing and nothing ever came of it. I ended up filing a police report on one the victim's behalf and literally nothing came of it. A couple of them attempted suicide shortly afterwards. One of them turned to drugs. Your presumptions about rape victims are fucking disgusting. I know you probably mean well but the MeToo shit didn't just crop up out of nowhere. Rape is not some mythical rare thing that never happens. It's unfortunately pretty common and it's still baffling to me how so many people find it so hard to believe.

[@Nickk7878-v8t]

I only recently learned about this channel about less than a year ago and thought his content was pretty fun, lighthearted, and entertaining! Just the sorta thing I could relax to! It was so bizarre to see all of the quality content and the channel mostly abandoned.

[@enraikow6109]

Tom, listen, it's bad. you're starting to look like anisa jomha

[@TheBunnyTheBearFan]

Man, buying ringtones was something for the era. I had paid like $2-3 for a ringtone for when my grandpa called and it would play "I'm not your daddy I'm your grandpa" behind like a techno-esque beat

[@sillylilgoose829]

That’s so wholesome lol. I never bought ringtones I didn’t want to get yelled at for ‘wasting money’

[@TheBunnyTheBearFan]

@@sillylilgoose829 Oh, it was a complete waste of money, but there was nothing cooler for me and my friends than saying to each other "call me" when you're sitting next to each other just to show off the new ringtone you bought! What a time. Still makes me happy thinking about it all these years later.

[@flipdiesel9652]

Tom just do what I do. Grow your hair out really long, then buzz it, let it grow back out. Rinse and repeat. That’s how based men take care of their hair. Styled haircuts are for sillybillys if you catch my drift

[@HavianEla]

I’m asexual (yes, I’m aware Tom doesn’t believe in it; no, I don’t care. I’m not an authoritarian who wants to force you to change your perspective on life, just ask that you treat me the same as anyone else. Not asking for special privileges like Keffals seems to think she’s entitled to - and that absolutely was a reference to the thumbnail. You know the one), but BRO - dude’s with long hair? 👌 That’s a mighty fine aesthetic you got going there! 😉 The question is, how LONG do you grow your’s? We talking Aragorn or Legolas here? (Also, please forgive me, your comment brought me so much joy I had to joke around back. I’m sorry I made you uncomfortable or was strange at all)

[@scrubelite4915]

@@HavianElaMy hair is more like Aragorns but longer and curlier. Slightly less long compared to Legolas.

[@Andrew-w2q2m]

Vast majority of styled haircuts are bad, but some classic 50s-60s prep hair cuts are pretty good.

[@christianboi7690]

I’m not a big fan of the characterization near the end. He consistently said that Toby’s recent content is a fleeting attempt at relevance rather than being genuine content. I can’t know that his content is actually genuine, but he can’t know that his content is fake or pandering, so he shouldn’t be saying as such. I guess it helps him with his narrative and there’s nothing wrong with using framing devices for a narrative, but you still have to be careful with your words or you’ll stray into selling speculation as fact. Great video otherwise.

[@Fleahayden]

I still love him, bro posts actual heat on Instagram. Still a funny guy imo

[@blurrydog1]

Lol I love that you google things in the middle of reactions😂

[@TheRainAbove]

KUSARI MENTIONED 🗣️‼️

[@WaxWitch]

14:49 Just gotta make a note about the old phones. I had a mytouch 4g slide that is what he was describing, but the generation before that that was super popular were the Pantech slide phones.

[@EvilSkeleton01]

Why are any words referencing children being censored? Has KZbin really gotten that bad?

[@HavianEla]

Yep

[@AwesomeMooseSmile]

Y word. I word R word H word

[@TexboyGamer]

Turkeytom not knowing about paying for texts is hilarious