Carbon monoxide poisoning and Carbon monoxide alarms (CO), ACS revision in ten minutes or less,

[@CommercialGasEngineerVideos]

When you're around CO it's easy to get complacent as a gas man as though you're immune. I've been adjusting combustion levels when CO ppms are too high and take it for granted that I can be putting myself in danger. If this happens to you remember to create more ventilation and prevent fumes getting into the room. You can also wear a Co alarm on your belt. Tell me something am I the only gas man who sometimes forgets that he's not immune to CO fumes?

[@dec9044]

Any chance of a Back Boiler Fire step by step Annual Service video. Think that would be a good and helpful video for everyone. Cheers Derek 👍🏻

[@tomkatgastraining]

Taking one out at weekend so might get chance before I remove it 👍🏻

[@dec9044]

@@tomkatgastraining cheers derek

[@shanehunt8360]

Great video 👍 Shane Hunt

[@willlomas2725]

Thanks Derek.

[@valentinmirauta7059]

Derek great video like always

[@-stewie-]

I was watching this video and my CO alarm went off, epic!

[@mohammednazir8307]

Brilliant video Derek 🙂

[@suewarrington8155]

Great Video

[@Tom_Plumb_PHS]

My boiler is in a cupboard in the bathroom so my options for citing these things as per the regs/mi's are very tricky. I opted to install it on the wall in the cupboard in the end, getting as close to the distance requirements as I could get. It's certainly not ideal but I'm happier having it imperfectly placed than not there at all. Be interesting to see if it does become mandatory how engineers will deal with these kind of cases where they can't install them to comply with the regs.

[@tomkatgastraining]

You should have just installed it outside the bathroom on the landing

[@paulburton1214]

@@tomkatgastraining With a combi boiler the heat wont be an issue in the cupboard and the damp should not be either. How high would the co levels have to be in the bathroom to trigger the alarm on the landing with the door closed to the bathroom ? . Fatal levels I would think , I have opted for the cupboard many times. I think it is another grey area where the rules don't work to protect the customer.

[@paulburton1214]

PS Thanks for all you videos, makes life easier to see things done rather than just reading about it.

[@Tom_Plumb_PHS]

@@paulburton1214 thanks for your reply. This was my thinking if it'd in the hallway the CO would have to migrate out of the cupboard door into the bathroom and then out of the bathroom door itself. With both closed the levels could accumulate before enough Co migrated to trigger the alarm. I'm not a gas engineer just a trainee wet plumber but it made most sense to me to get as close to the recommendations as I could but keep it in the same space as the cupboard.

[@Tom_Plumb_PHS]

Seconded I'll get around to my gas eventually once I've done my levels 2 & 3 and I really appreciate the content and lessons 👍

[@darrenclarke161]

Thanks for taking the time to do these vids . Super handy .👍👍😁

[@AnEyeScream]

Thank you, Nikola Ditsov

[@jockster5525]

Great thanks for your efforts 😊👍

[@bentzionroyde4786]

Thanks Derek great video 👍

[@liborjelinek2070]

Hi Derek would you fit one or two CO alarm. Living room and kitchen is downstairs which contains seal boiler and free standing cooker, so one Co alarm in the living room, and the other co alarm in the master bedroom upstairs, or to have only one downstairs at the beginning of the stairs??

[@tomkatgastraining]

I would just have one in the living room

[@deanwatson1386]

Nice vid mate👍, question, do we need a separate ticket for co fumes investigation?

[@CommercialGasEngineerVideos]

Good question. Let's see what uncle Tom kat says...

[@tomkatgastraining]

You will see in my video that yes you require a separate qualification for fume investigation if someone has been killed or taken to hospital because of co poisoning

[@deanwatson1386]

@@tomkatgastraining oh nice one thank you. Finding that long term monitoring a weird one tbh.🤯

[@mustafaakbari6231]

Thanks mate

[@chrisjones4500]

Thanks derek

[@rickyvanniekerk771]

There used to be a specific qualification for engineers to test for co after a call for an active co alarm. I don’t know if this is still the case? But if so I’m assuming most engineers who reconnect and test after the ESP has made safe don’t have it? I’ve spoken to a few gas engineers that knew nothing about it…..

[@tomkatgastraining]

Yes you are correct there is a qualification which I mention in the video but that is only required if someone has been taken to hospital or been killed by co. If it’s an alarm going off engineers with CPA1 can test all the appliances in the property.

[@rickyvanniekerk771]

@@tomkatgastraining thanks that’s good to know!

[@MrRedspanner]

Spoke to Gas Safe regarding CO Alarm activation, about who can and cannot investigate the activation. The answer is long winded. This is what they told me. 1st step is to contact ESP to come and test. They will ask if customer is feeling OK, if they suspect they are unwell the will tell them to go to Hospital. If the customer has tested negative for CO in blood stream then appliances and CO alarm can be checked by an engineer who does not hold CMDDA1. If the customer has been tested positive for CO in bloodstream, the it will need to be investigated by someone who has CMDDA1. If the customer is ok, and not feeling unwell, and the appliances are fine, then a sweep test around CO Alarm picks up CO, then this will need to be investigated by someone who has CMDDA1. I think there are too many if and buts for this, it would be easier just to say "CO alarm activation requires an engineer that holds CMDDA1 to investigate" Or make something a part of CCN1, that covers a part of it.

[@tomkatgastraining]

@@MrRedspanner cpa1 has been put into ccn1 now so engineers can check appliances if alarms go off and as you correctly say if someone has been taken to hospital or has died because of co you need cmdda1.

[@rickyvanniekerk771]

@@MrRedspanner esp do not test for co. (In my area at least) They do a sweep with a gas seeker a visual check of appliances and for any signs of spillage, and attempt to gain entry to neighbouring properties. They will ask the customers questions see if there are any symptoms. If the alarm is an active alarm the installation gets made safe. If it’s a fault alarm as per manufacturers instructions it can be left on. It would be interesting to see the accuracy of these co alarms as a lot of installations are getting made safe only to be put back on again by a GSRE.

[@neilbeckett2325]

What if there’s a cooker and a boiler in the room?

[@tomkatgastraining]

The alarm goes in the next room

[@tomkatgastraining]

The alarm goes in the next room

[@MrRedspanner]

Does this apply if the do not have a gas cooker. I work on New build properties and supply a gas point for a hob, but many have electric or induction. We have always put alarms where boiler is even if it had a cooker or hob in the same room.

[@tomkatgastraining]

@@MrRedspanner because cookers can go over 90ppm that’s why they don’t go in the same room as a cooker but of course if it an electric cooker then it’s fine as electric won’t produce co

[@SuperWayneyb]

Once found spillage from next door coming through back to back chimney opening 👍👍

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👍 Sue Warrington

[@benregler9872]

I went to an alarm activation. I'm pretty certain it was caused by tenants charging a car battery in the same room as the alarm as I've heard of this before funny enough it was a callout I went to during my reassessment. When I asked the assessor the next day about it he told me it's impossible. No faults were found with the boiler and the co alarm was in date 🤷🏻‍♂️

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