I Got A BRUSHLESS RC Car and it's not from China!

Brushless Team Associated 14B Reflex RC Car. I've been after one of these for a while, and it's Crazy! A Brushless 1/14 Scale RC Buggy from Team Associated (14B Reflex). Get the right battery and this thing flies!
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[@TomleyRC]

Once again, I may have 'out humoured' a few people. Let's call it Satire.... I was trying to make a point that nearly everything is made in China (or Taiwan) for the RC Hobby. I just found it funny that nowhere on the box could I see where it was made...apart from the TA Head Quarters address. I'm sure a lot of you knew what I was getting at..and I thought I made it obvious. I might put a disclaimer at the start of my videos haha. Anyway.... carry on....

[@wheelsdownrc6348]

You mean internet trolls DON’T have a since of humor, that’s crazy talk bro! Also THAT’S sarcasm trolls. Now let the hating begin ✌️

[@andiewithanie]

"china or taiwan" so no preference? i know which one id rather live in

[@TortFreak]

@tomley did you notice how much the eachine buggies have gone in price

[@derekhobbs1102]

I thought it was law to state country of manufacture on everything

[@lovineazy6741]

You gotta check out the Team Association ..MT8...EPIC

[@DustyFingersRC]

the news of Tamiya removing their spanner was on April 1st. That aside, that beatbox edit was dope son! That is a lovely bit of kit you got there. Team Associated is quality!

[@TomleyRC]

Haha.. well they got me with the April Fools 😅

[@axe2grind244]

I was ready to buy one of these but then I saw the Wltoys 144010 for $100 less and it was a no brainer. Cool buggy, not $250 cool however.

[@TomleyRC]

The 144010 looks decent… hopefully I’ll have one soon

[@B.D.B.]

The brushed one has come down in price to less than 70$. Considering it closer to it in terms of performance, 250$ is insanity.

[@danielemulazzi1615]

Molto bella ...ma costa troppo....meglio WL TOYS...EACHINE EAT.... oppure BONZAI... comunque bel video... ciao dall'Italia

[@finthemanbehindthescreen8520]

Hi tomley love the vids don't listen to the people I love the cheap Chinese rc reviews a

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, I enjoy making them as well. 👌

[@rrrccc1571]

As much as I love 1/10 and 1/8 stuff, you can't beat these smaller scale cars that you can just chuck in a small rucksack. Great review!

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, so much easier to carry around!

[@kenmtb]

what the dickens is a rucksack?

[@averagevalenjoyer]

@@kenmtb backpack

[@Lifeoftravel12]

I race my 14b on carpet its a great little buggy, only issue I have found is the diff seals leak. Against the wl toys there is no comparison, I haven't broken mine yet and the guys who run wl toys at the club are repairing every week.

[@masjuggalo]

It leaks oil you say...sure it's not British 😁

[@arturbernolak3335]

I don get how you can eaven race thease in the same bracket lol

[@bert1913]

Reminds me of my emb-1h. Btw, the emb-1h comes with a metal chassis

[@toddbertram6556]

What it means is it is made in China possibly assembled in California and the decals put on the body in California. If it was made in California it would have cost you $1800

[@JLary71377]

Team Associated has always been one of the best. Great video on the little "cheapo" car. Definitely not cheapo. 😁 I enjoy your videos

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks Jeff… appreciate it

[@exp2tr10t]

AE is legendary. Love their cars; An old RC10 nitro was the first and only nitro I've driven, and it was still a blast. Well done review! Their MT8 has caught my attention...

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks Jacob

[@ravenlorans]

AE? Asshole Eaters??? :D :D :D

[@kevingilroy]

Why don't you ever review stuff made in the Antarctica?

[@TomleyRC]

Haha… that’s next months video!

[@stuartroberts9993]

I have a 14b & it's a very well balanced rig & tons of fun. Only issue is that parts seem hard outside the US (I'm in Australia) without paying mega prices. That's why WPL are picking up customers in the lower end of the market as upgrades/spares are pennies & the cars are also inexpensive. But the balance of the 14b makes it worthwhile for me.

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, some decent cheap cars out there for sure 👌

[@rccarsandmusic2641]

Cost effective Wltoys hands down. My 124018 speed 40mph brushless 2845 4300kv and my 124019 43mph. Over price Associated spend difference on good battery's. Wltoys bigger batteries and 2200mah.

[@1Stunna2323]

Designed in California. Assembled in China.

[@wheelsdownrc6348]

I’ve never run team associated but I’m digging the bomber style paint scheme. I will be using that on my next build thanks for the content 👍

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah, looks good doesn’t it 🤟

[@wheelsdownrc6348]

@@TomleyRC yes it does, I have officially decided to that scheme on my next XMAXX body, so thanks for the inspiration and have a happy Easter 🐣

[@shadow7796]

I put sway bars and a few other goodies on my reflex14b and I gotta say, it's very good for what it is. The optional Factory Team parts are good too. I put a better esc in mine cause I like 3s and the esc don't like it but the motor is fine. The shocks are ok but the F.T. ones are better.

[@TomleyRC]

Sounds awesome! I’ll have to look at the upgrades!

[@TheRCScotsman]

What a wee pocket rocket! Fantastic thing. Also, the difference between lipos was crazy... 25 to 32 mph is a 28% increase!

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah, crazy isn’t it! I even tried another ZD Racing… and it did the same as the first. Must be the low C rating

[@TheRCScotsman]

@@TomleyRC Yeah, pretty likely. I don't generally go under 25 - 30c.

[@CAPRAQUEENRC]

I’ve been using Team Associated cars for 30 years. My experience is that AE doesn’t make actual basher grade cars, they are all race grade designed to handle and perform. I have a 14B and have all the upgrades and it outperforms everything in it’s scale but like I mentioned, when bashing the diffs have given me issues breaking the spider pins and the stock bearings have had issues. So I would highly recommend back up diffs, new quality bearings and if Bashing also I recommend T-Bone racing front and rear bumpers. But although a plastic chassis it’s incredibly durable structurally and is way faster than I expected out of the box. If used for serious racing it’s definitely worth the investment but if just for bashing I would suggest a inexpensive toy/basher grade WLTOYS ❤️

[@TomleyRC]

Some good advice 👌

[@jalee6587]

The mt10 stadium truck is basher grade

[@jnmwtkns]

Right I picked up a lot of about 6 complete and 4 parts 1/18 from Associated chassis from a racers restock and There is even a dual motor mod on one parts chassis that both factory diffs smoked on first run lol. But really they are definitely built for racing rather then bashing . I personally love my belt driven rc18sc novak brushless and it smokes most of my 1/10 factory systems for reliability.

[@xx-----------xx873]

@@jalee6587 It's not a TA design though.

[@TannerR_offroading]

First!

[@oldeschoolrcukold5141]

Now that does look like fun. I’m not normally impressed with the smaller scale bashers but that does look like fun bud.

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, loads of fun

[@Pablo668]

Cool vid. Yeah Associated generally make good gear.

[@TomleyRC]

Cheers Pablo

[@BangForYourBuckRc]

These are speedy little buggys! Easy on the eyes too! I’ve had one in my Amazon cart for ohhh 4 months now! What was the c rating you had in the first battery vs the 2nd one? Guess it’s time to finally pull the trigger on this one Phill🤪! Thanks for the show and tell my friend! Cheers! ☕️🫖☕️

[@TomleyRC]

25c vs 100c 😅🤟

[@h4rb1ng3r]

@@TomleyRC LOL! No wonder!

[@wwc3180]

Please do a parts comparison with 144001, especially the gearing and transmission and housing.. Nice Vide 👍

[@TomleyRC]

I am planning a comparison soon 🤘

[@W1DO]

@@TomleyRC + LC racing EMB1

[@philbrittain]

Along with the mini 8ight and carisma gtb the OG's of the minis

[@MCsCreations]

Pretty impressive little buggy, Tomley! 😃 Great bashing!!! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks mate.. appreciate it 👌

[@freedom8480]

Thanks for the Sound at the beginning🤬 I ran to check on my charger. Wasn't even plugged in😅

[@TomleyRC]

Haha

[@009ADVENTURES]

wow, you sure that battery was charged, heck of a difference bud 👍

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, had 2 fully charged, both were the same result!

[@samuelandolina6338]

I'm pretty sure that is "made in China" car. Look on the box...it's on there somewhere.

[@TomleyRC]

Couldn’t see it anywhere in the box…… but yeah, probably is

[@413RC]

This car is so underrated and there are very few videos about them. Unfortunately the issue holding this car back is that all of the gears are plastic, although AE does make metal diffs and input gears for it. Also the motor mount tooth slider is trash

[@oaantonsen3275]

And also the price...

[@2wheelpartsguy]

Soo much enjoy this channel more than the other British guy

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks dude. It try to make my channel a little different to others 👍

[@andy2more475]

I was wondering if the 15c discharge rate was too low. Can't wait to see the comparison video. Thanks man!

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah, I reckon it was 👍

[@rcplaytime]

pretty decent fun little buggy😀👍👍

[@CommandLineHero]

I waited so long for a quality review of this car. I’m not patient, so I bought an LCRacing instead, but I’m so happy that someone did a proper review for this car. It’s back on my list now.

[@Hirthirthirt]

There is nothing wrong with chinese cars....and who says Team Asso does not produce in China?

[@TomleyRC]

I'm just joking mate...of course it's made in Taiwan or China, everything is! Decent bit of kit though :)

[@sharkey9]

Can I buy those Salt Balls even if I didn't disliked you or the video?

[@TomleyRC]

Of course… but let us all know how they were 👌

[@giannetto1000]

Please make a video comparison that no one did it between team associated 14 truggy VS lc racing 14 emb-t.. It will be awesome 'cause they look quite the same but one will be better for sure! Thanks in advance and keep up the good work, cheers from Italy

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, good idea 🤘

[@jakeclauson9863]

So what do you think? 144001 or the reflex? Reflex looks like it's well dialed in. Iv been looking for a buggy in that size range but can't decide!

[@TomleyRC]

The WLtoys over good value for money… so I suppose it’s down to your budget and if you want a named brand or not

[@lurifax7382]

reflex! prolly much better parts in it.(better plastic parts)

[@Pete_B95]

Love the old videos of you beatboxing 😂👍

[@TomleyRC]

Haha, after editing the cable tie cutting… I had to add it 👌

[@GordoDrummer]

there is no way that a TA product meant for racing can be beaten by a low end, barely hobby grade product like WL Toys. Watch videos, or actually run a WLT product on a proper track. They break constantly. they can't even compete against the Losi 18th scale racers. they can put flashy anodised parts all they like. but when a car with 40 years of racing technology comes around, the little kids car ends up being trash in the end. Actual racers are even saying that pushing WLT style products as being competitive vehicles puts the wrong idea into peoples heads. I've seen them at track meets, and very rarely do they not get lapped by the second last car. but hey, for little kids, they are good.h

[@GordoDrummer]

By the way Tomley RC , I am not insinuating that you personally are pushing WLT as competitive. I've seen some others do it, which I personally do not like. You have fun with your RC, whether it comes with a large, or small price tag. Made in China, or any other country. If it's crap, you tell it like it is. That's what I appreciate about you and your channel.

[@DESOUSAB]

Commented in another one of your vids that you should review this car... and here we have the review... lol! I've played around with this little bugger (and the inferior WLToys competitors) with various esc's. What is your recommendation for the BEST 1/10th scale esc for these buggies. I've tried the Castle Micro X (smoked it), the HW 10BL60 (smoked it), the HW 10BL120 (in the Reflex now), the Mamba X (in a 144001 with a 1/12th chassis), the Surpass Rocket TS160 V2 PRO (in a 124019). For speed runs, the Mamba X is my best so far having hit 112km/hr in playful speed runs. If only it were silent... Incidentally - I get 58 mph as my top speed with this little guy on 3S and it ALWAYS goes straight as an arrow. Can't quite figure out why it is so steady, while the WLToys buggies need a gyro and even then I regularly smash them up.

[@disciplinerc]

The clipping clip was the best clip 🤣 Great vid mate!

[@W1DO]

It's a shame more clubs don't race 12th and 14th scale. I think it's what RC racing needs to do if clubs want more members. This vs LC racing emb1 ? I think LC is probably better.

[@wordreet]

Team Associated quality is strong in this one! 🖤⚔

[@TomleyRC]

🦾

[@Blundo76]

It's all about bat tree.

[@FarmerFpv]

We raced these on carpet tracks. Put the swaybar kit on it for carpet racing. They are fast and agile on 1/10 scale carpet tracks.

[@earthcoloredeyes5043]

Your telling me none of the part are made in China? More like assembled in America lol. Are there any chip manufacturers in America? I don’t mean potatoes America!

[@TomleyRC]

I was just messing about mate.... everything is made in China/Taiwan

[@earthcoloredeyes5043]

@@TomleyRC I know😉 I always see made in America assembled in Mexico.

[@mrpigx]

You should build a 1/10 HSP 94118 (KIT/PRO) metal chassis.

[@chubbymagikz8861]

Hey sorry to bother you I have the wl toys 124016 if I remeber right haha what's a decent 2s battery for it and any chance of a link love the videos btw 👍

[@TomleyRC]

You can use the one I’ve linked… or they may do a slightly higher ‘mah’ which will fit the battery tray. The stock ones are not too bad

[@chubbymagikz8861]

@@TomleyRC cheers mate yeah I just need another battery as car fully charged doesn't last long 😂

[@michaeldorich4485]

Looks great. As you said, choose a good battery.

[@zZwellZz]

Im looking for a good buggy 1/16 to 1/12 to buy... that buggy seems to be a good one... WLtoys v2 or Team Associated? Cruel doubt...

[@derricksazrc3411]

Daaaaaaaaaaang

[@TheActionBastard]

$250 :( and now I remember why I run chinese... I'm broke.

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, that’s sometimes the unfortunate cost of not buying from China

[@Nordlicht05]

The reason why they soon rule the world. And nobody saw it coming 😅 Yea but now globalisation takes a few steps back... Ok ok different topic. Yep 250 is really not that cheap for that size.

[@skumbria6666]

That frontflip is crazy 🤘, great video.

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks dude

[@philiplibby6360]

Great vid. Deff put the kid in the part 2 comparison vid for another beet box breakdown 😆 love it

[@ogdizzle155]

Legend says the kid beat boxing was just Phil as a kid haha 🤣😂 on another note this thing looks decent can't wait to see it up against the wltoys brushless

[@TomleyRC]

Haha.. brilliant, but seriously, he’s way better than me 😅

[@ogdizzle155]

@@TomleyRC need to get ya self practicing bud haha 🤣

[@k1ortia]

Nothing wrong with cheap China stuff...just look at WL toys. Enough said.

[@lauchbot6086]

no hate but u shouldn't have made that video about kev in my opinion

[@TomleyRC]

Kev didn’t have an issue with it, in fact he laughed about it when I spoke to him last week… but like you say.. ‘in your opinion’.

[@adamwolff9411]

Would like to see this compared to the LC Racing! Looks a good bit of kit.

[@W1DO]

I reckon the LC is better.

[@FarmerFpv]

On the race track. The TA blows it away. They race these on offroad carpet tracks. The LC is very gimmicky. Which ever you get put the sway pars on otherwise they will both traction roll on the carpet track.

[@neighborhoodhighfiveguy2225]

Can I use a GOLDBAT 6200mAh 7.4V 50C 2S Lipo with this?

[@chriswhite2824]

That kid at the end 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 top review Phil 👍🏻👍🏻

[@TomleyRC]

Hahaha 🤣

[@carlbudd341]

Fella I just got my hybrid ftx tracer bezgar 6,7 8, combo on 2s lipo full metal all.like you say find the right battery!.got tamiya madbull tottaly sorted got 2 now love your vids.

[@tawsifulhaque9940]

I have one and i will say, SCREWS ON THIS ARE GARBAGE they strip so easily but the car is good

[@teamjono69]

Sorry I’m late, I was having a kebab… yay 5th comment? What do I win today mate?

[@TomleyRC]

You win an extra pot of Garlic Mayo.

[@teamjono69]

@@TomleyRC ooooh!

[@WeaponizedExplorer]

I literally explored that sports centre !! It’s not far from me , I’ve taken my kraton exb in that car park a few times

[@kristinewilson5353]

I wonder if the dog bones and cvd's from this will fit my wl toys cars. I've been looking for upgrades because I'm constantly bending mine. But there R no upgrades I know of

[@MauzyrockRC]

Brightened my day! 👍👍👍

[@arturbernolak3335]

I just dont get this guy any Moore it's like he compares a 1988 fiat to a p1 and tryed to tell you NO REALL the fiat is just about tha same just subscribed

[@B.D.B.]

250$ for a plastic chassis and no battery?! And it's not even faster than the brushed 144001 which now sells for less than 70$ and that one includes a battery and a metal chassis.

[@agvline7sensei7rc39]

It great man

[@ethrrr]

I like it :)) They should revive rc18! ...and top gear 4 life :D CHNL , too

[@brianwolfe2172]

Great little buggy. I really like mine. Rear shock springs need to be replaced though. For whatever reason Associated used the same length springs in the rear that they use in the front even though the rear shocks are longer. The rear shock are preloaded to the max just to level the car out. Use the Associated Factory Team Gold/Yellow springs. Part #21558.

[@dexterbeattie7884]

It’s very nice. Seen one at the local store renently

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, I was impressed!

[@lael1236]

Speed wise It has nothing to do before the 144010 but this one seems to run much smoother tahn the wltoys, I bet It handles better, durability?? Mmm only time will tell but I have seen the 144010 getting punished real good and hang in there, so we will see, and I dont really know how much this one costs but I bet Is around twice as much at the very least

[@1111-t5n]

Well thunder tiger has always had sweet rc trucks and buggies. Where is thunder tigers bushmaster series of kits looks like you have the thunder tiger mini bushmaster interesting right. Also the associated crawlers are from the kaiser series of crawlers offered by thunder tiger, whom knew right, its fun watching the industry excel and not take over some of its competitors but roll them into one of the most successful company platforms in all of rc history. Unlike a another company whom shall remain nameless, yet I think we all know whom the ugly kid in the room is. 🤔 Keep the trigger pinned and ripping those smiles for miles ✌

[@aklimitless9072]

Nice rc

[@klanservativerepubliklan1818]

How much run time did you get out of the cnhl 1500 battery? Did you happen to check temps??

[@lillagubben2815]

Are you sure about the country of origin? I am actually a fan of Thunder Tiger (CR12), who bought the Team Associated name. But I cannot see anything actually being made in California because of labor costs (and everything seems to cause cancer in California...). Sometimes things are "engineered" in California but made elsewhere. Maybe Malaysia? At any rate, I agree with everyone else that this looks like a quality product!

[@TomleyRC]

It’s most certainly made in China or Taiwan. I just could see anywhere on the box where it said. I was just being funny in the video 👌

[@lyleallyssanashookpuk3636]

Assembled in California I believe😂

[@charliecho2661]

Well known Taiwan brand I don't understand where you pull non Chinese brand? Best brand ever though along with tt

[@tenksu9250]

More speed with another 2s battery!!?? So unbelievable, but it looks true.

[@NoLimitRC87]

Firstly great video as always 👌 secondly I just bought my first rc boat which came with a 850mah lithium iron 2s battery which I knew wasn't going to be great so I ordered that exact CNHL 2s lipo you had jn this video at the same time I ordered the boat. Anyway cut a long story short the boat was crap with the supplied battery even the servo was really weak so I stuck the CNHL lipo in thinking it would atleast wake it up a little bit but my god did it wake it up I couldn't believe the difference it was literally night and day I was really impressed with them lipos. It was my first time trying the CNHL but I've seen you say good things about them so decided to give them a try and ive found my new lipo supplier id even say there better than the gens ace lipos and cheaper so thanks for sharing buddy I'll put a video up tomorrow if you want to check it out to see the difference its nuts

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, these little CNHL’s are really good! I’ve ran my upgrades Brushless WLToys at about 70mph+ with one of the 3s ones

[@NoLimitRC87]

@@TomleyRC yeah can see there really good lipos will definitely be using these alot more

[@philiplibby6360]

@@NoLimitRC87 subbed

[@masjuggalo]

I hope the wltoys comes with a "big" brushless motor like 550 sized

[@anthonytuccillo6274]

Made in California my Arse 😆

[@TomleyRC]

😅

[@aaronpantell1038]

How does it compare to the lc racing buggy/truggy.im debating between the lc or Ae for my 9 year olds first rc what do you think ?the one plus is the Ae has support at my local rc shop.

[@TomleyRC]

The LC Racing stuff is very nice… I’d say a little better than this 👌

[@aaronpantell1038]

@@TomleyRC thank you he drives my old sc8e pretty good it is just outdated and clumsy.lc racing it is.

[@speedgears1236]

Thats a great little buggy. I own it also.

[@TomleyRC]

😎

[@RickMicallef]

love your vids bro!!! keep it up!!

[@TomleyRC]

Cheer dude

[@EJ-74]

Awesome little buggy. My first proper race truck was a 2wd 1/10 truck T3 Team Associated back in 2000. They make great race RCs. The Rival 10 and 8 seem pretty awesome from the vids I've seen. Cool vid Tomley. 🔥 Can't wait to see a comparison vid with the Banggood special. 🔥👍✌️

[@TomleyRC]

Cheers Erric... I'm looking forward to trying the MT8

[@owen8538]

For racing can you use 7.6v or need be 7.4v are they 2s only in racing

[@zachyurkus]

The Andy Milonakis remix and the end there was sick...

[@SPEXWISE]

I enjoyed the little beatbox edits in this one. Had me giggling.

[@TomleyRC]

Haha, cheers 😎

[@duceanahalf]

I was wondering why my battery charger was going off since it's not even here.

[@nathancorlett9895]

Love the channel m8 it’s making me want to start the hobby again at 50yrs old ha ha

[@imserious2187]

I still want one of those

[@RyanStonedonCanadianGaming]

0:58 8:05 ANDY MILONAKIS!

[@TomleyRC]

Legend 😅

[@RyanStonedonCanadianGaming]

@@TomleyRC yes he definitely is.

[@hgrc6467]

please can you do a review on the Arma vendetta im not sure whether to buy on or save up for an infraction or a felony. Thanks

[@seancushway6959]

Where's the comparison video of the 3 different cars?

[@aaroncasey3591]

Got 2 of these awesome rigs. I have since modded one with a castle mamba micro x and the 8200kv motor. It is bloody fricken nuts and an absolute joy to run in small areas. No one expects to see something that small move so quick.

[@Zachary48]

Would like to see pictures to help with the build mate

[@aaroncasey3591]

@@Zachary48 When I get a chance I'll upload a few pics. Pretty much used deans high temp T plugs so I could use stock Batts and I took a castle sidewinder ESC fan, and installed in sideways behind the motor for a cooling fan. The natural setup allows it to look really clean. Runs cool, around 130 to 145 motor Temps after 20 plus min of running. Using a 11tooth pinion.

[@rickkremer0525]

So what was the blue buggy you showed us briefly, and do you like it better?

[@gabrielpichardo1492]

If tamiya removes the wheel wrench from the kits how will people tighten the wheels ?

[@unit2135532]

My charger made the same beeping noise, had to check if I left the charger on