TOMMY LEE JONES' TWO FACE WAS NOT THAT BAD

[@spudmatix8770]

Tbh, there r moments wen Tommy tones it down and deepens his voice wen he actually comes across as a really scary and intimidating Two Face, i really love those parts of his performance

[@matthewmarcinko9157]

People often forget Tommy Lee's performance as the villain "Stratix" in the Steven Segal film "Under Siege" which was not that far removed from what he was doing as Harvey Dent.

[@TreyStation64]

I literally just commented about him as Strannix. He was real goofy there.

[@HoustonSoto]

You have a point there.

[@Adam_X78]

The first scene with him was his best showing in the movie

[@randallflagg3700]

The first scene *about* him is my favorite scene in the movie, you know the deleted one at Arkham Asylum, where we find out he's escaped? Love it.

[@Adam_X78]

@@randallflagg3700 I love the deleted helicopter scene too

[@fromagenoir7220]

Watch his face when he reveals the scars; The Harvey side looks pained and angry but when he turns his head the anguish turns to wicked glee. It is a subtle moment but one that proves he DID have an understanding of the character's duality.

[@roberttreacy8271]

When TLJ isn’t devouring the scenery, he sounds just like Two Face from BTAS.

[@ivanvonbewski]

He fit the vibe of the movie. The movie was essentially just a live action cartoon. It wouldn’t make sense for him to play it super serious and cerebral when everyone is bouncing off the walls

[@faz1483]

Yet this live action film was incredibly childish compared to the actual Batman cartoon playing at the same time. Sad when you have to go to after school cartoons for a more mature take on Batman.

[@flamesofchaos13]

@@faz1483 But now there exists the Dark Knight trilogy and The Batman film. So yeah there's the serious live action take...Also there's Batman the Brave and the Bold for a cartoony animated Batman. There's a flavor for any fans to enjoy in all the mediums.

[@faz1483]

@@flamesofchaos13 Right, but I'm saying Batman Forever was more childish than the actual cartoon for children that was running at the time. Despite it being for kids the animated series delivered great story telling and was bad ass. Meanwhile I don't think BF, or B&R, has that quality of story telling. Feels like the main goal was to sell toys and be really colorful. The OP said BF was a live action cartoon. I just wish it gave us the quality story telling of the actual Batman cartoon!

[@Chuck_EL]

the deleted scene of him as two-face showed he was the right choice

[@metallicnole4514]

I liked Batman forever more than Batman returns

[@Anthonycheesman33]

He’s basically doing a joker impression while jim Carrey is trying to outdo his joker impression .

[@thecrimsondragon2379]

I didn’t even know that was possible.

[@kevin10001]

Actually Jim isn’t doing a joker impression he is actually playing the riddler similar to how frank gorshin would have cause Jim’s actual comedy style in the 90’s was very similar to frank gorshin in the 60’s that could be why he was cast in the movie

[@flamesofchaos13]

So THAT's what the Three Jokers is about.

[@aspiringjoker2883]

Which Jim does easily

[@Anthonycheesman33]

@@kevin10001 let’s be real it’s basically joker lol

[@zacky4204]

I think it would be really cool if Tommy Lee Jones reprised his role as two face in new Batgirl movie with Micheal Keaton or if we finally see Billy dee Williams as two- face in it would be really cool

[@AnimatedTerror]

But he died at the end. And not like offscreen it was implied-no. He fell half a mile down a shaft onto metal and rocks in the ocean.

[@zacky4204]

@@AnimatedTerror I heard a rumor Danny Devito might be coming back as penguin in Batgirl plus they bring back villains like they did in no way home all the time why not would be great

[@Ian-hj4yt]

Billy would make more sense

[@88K-d6h]

@@zacky4204 the really should produce the movie the planned after Batman and Robin which included all of Burton villains

[@ArtemisMac]

Tommy Lee Jones at his worst is still pretty damn good

[@glentor3]

He’s a terrific actor, but that script was shit.

[@zachfox9980]

I was 7 in 1995. This was my favorite Batman movie back in the day. I loved Jim Carrey. Still do. As I've aged I've realized it isn't the best Batman movie but...but I still love this movie. Regardless of what people say. I'll always watch this movie and speak it word for word.

[@petergresh516]

I was 2 months old when this movie came out in June of 1995

[@zachfox9980]

@@petergresh516 I don't feel old now 🤦🏼‍♂️🤣

[@P3rm4frost]

Same man. I was 8 when I saw it in theaters and I still remember it vividly. This movie, batman forever, is a kid movie, it wasn't made for the adults. It made me feel like batman just by the cool music when the batmobil shows up. Its still cool to watch it despite many plot holes and other stuff I didn't care for. I'm still a kid again when I watch it, this is very cool.

[@KingOfWinter]

I liked tommyv lee jones two face when I was a kid and I think he’s hilarious when I watch it today. I mean Aaron Eckharts two face in the Dark Knight is amazing but he’s in an amazing comic book movie. Batman Forever is fun and the two face fits the movie and that’s all you can really ask for

[@alexlemonds2838]

Closest thing we had to a 60s show version of Two-Face until William Shatner came along.

[@Elvirabg]

Now THIS is the kind of content I like to see! Batman forever has always been one of my favorites, never quite understood the hate tommy lee jones got for his role as two face. I honestly really liked his portrayal ALSO HAVE THE GOOD TASTE TO DIE

[@faz1483]

It's great if you enjoy the film but do you really not understand the "hate" (criticism) for TLJ performance? I enjoy some camp, like Evil Dead 2 but so much of Batman Forever feels down right "silly" and trying way too hard to appeal to young children. And when you compare to the more mature Burton films, or the animated series we got at the time I don't think it's too hard to understand why many people did not enjoy this film.

[@copilots3159]

I also really prefer this look for Two-Face the purple pink side of his face look like his skin tried to heal and did the best it could as opposed to just being half corpse.

[@Planag7]

Loved him more than Carrey. Yes I said it That you had a pretty good mask for your face on Halloween back in the day my brother wore one and it actually creeped out a lot of people when he would be dressed up like sadly lost it otherwise I would have kept it even after all these years

[@Dielawn69]

I agree. Jim Carrey is basically just playing the same character he always plays. His performance in the Cable Guy shows he couldve switched it up and did something more unique. But he decided to just do his usual schtick.

[@kevinthomas2036]

Have the good taste to die. I enjoy his performance in this too. It’s such a zany and fun take on him. I love the scenes you mentioned where Harvey comes out and wish there were more of them.

[@Esgles]

It was actually meant to be much darker, closer to Returns. WB forced it through many cuts. One of the things we lose is Two Face’s character arc. Harvey was Gotham’s leading DA and was Batman’s friend, helping to clear his name of the whole Penguin situation from Batman returns. After that, Batman asked Harvey to meet him on a rooftop. Harvey wanted to retire and settle down but Batman didn’t let him, saying that they are two sides of the same coin. Batman promised Harvey that as a reward for staying DA, Batman would protect him NO MATTER WHAT. We all know what happened after that and Two Face was sent to prison for Two years until he escaped by killing a prison guard, by getting him to play double or nothing, where Two Face’s coin landed on the bad side and he said nothing means you don’t even get to live. Throughout the book, Batman feels guilty about what happened and at the circus instead of saying I’m Batman was going to say something he had mentioned to Dent at the rooftop and actively tries to stop Harvey by throwing a gun to his head, hoping it will distract him from flipping the coin at the circus. Not only is Batman sympathetic to Harvey but Two Face follows his coin much more in this version, not minding when the good side turns up. He even tried to kill Riddler at one point after Face thought that he had successfully killed Batman. The infamous coin toss scene is still in there but as Face clearly explains “For each time Batman and chase pass me, it’s a new chance to kill him, requiring a new toss”. Finally, Face dies differently and it was Dent that chooses the death. After the “you’ve always been a good friend” line, Harvey flips and Batman still feeling guilty only uses something to knock the coin off tangent. Face catches it but before he can flip again to see what is the accurate result, Robin says he acts as though the coin is making the decisions for him and asks him to flip for himself. Face does and WITHOUT looking at the outcome smiles at Robin, says “you owe us one sunny!” and kills himself, making as what Batman says is the first real decision he’s made in years. If you want to see what this film could have been, pick up the Batman Forever book by Peter David or listen to the audiobook that I linked here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r2TPl3dohN6AfNU And yes, this video got a comment straight from “us”. We have been using this KZbin avatar for years

[@StarPlatinumV]

The uncut version of batman forever is awesome! I hope they release it.

[@MA-rf6bu]

How do you know its awesome if they didn’t release it?

[@StarPlatinumV]

@@MA-rf6bu Cause I saw it

[@MA-rf6bu]

@@StarPlatinumV Nah you didn’t

[@StarPlatinumV]

@@MA-rf6bu ok

[@BlackJohnnyCage]

On another note Two Face in the Batman Forever video game was pretty epic too! He had two fighting styles depending on which side he was facing & to top it off the coin flip gave him health!! Love the Movie & the Game💙🎬

[@GoFartherPodcast]

I actually really liked Batman Forever. Kilmer’s Bruce & Batman are both very solid portrayals: cerebral, yet thoughtful; strong, yet merciful; and confident, yet sensitive. I wish they could’ve done a sequel with him.

[@UndertakerNeverDies]

I have felt like you mentioned that he played it over the top to compete with Jim Carrey so his character would stand out even if he couldn’t compete with Jim Carrey’s insane interpretation of The Riddler. All in all I enjoyed Tommy Lee Jones as Two Face because he seemed to fit the tone this film was going for. Also speaking of the 1960s Batman tv series they did do a Batman 66 comic with Two Face that look wise felt like a hybrid between Batman Forever Two Face and the one from the animated series at least that’s how I felt about it.

[@fromagenoir7220]

Jones had actual levels and layers to his performance while Carrey was in hyperactive mode almost nonstop, sacrificing character for obnoxious mugging.

[@RyGuy-fi4zx]

​@@fromagenoir7220 Couldn't agree more with this. I adore both actors beyond belief. But the more and more I live with the film, the more this is quite apparent to me. Like most here and everywhere else, I didn't see it at first. But it's absolutely true

[@fromagenoir7220]

@@RyGuy-fi4zx Yeah, Tommy is REALLY underrated as Two-Face IMHO.

[@captaingeneroddenberry8439]

Still wonder what Billy Dee would had looked like as Two Face if Burton did his Batman Forever.

[@madddoggnogood1491]

Read the batman 89 comic

[@clown599]

loved him too back in the day, but my fav will always be Jack joker. His portrail of the character however was not the result of an Nicholson imitation, but a more grounded and evil purpose: the first days of shooting, based on who saw that in scene, he trew Carrey to a wall in rage telling him "i can't stand your buffonery... from this time now to the end i'll exagerate in a better way than you the character for steal your scene... don't talk to me, i don't like you"... so he was acting in that way just for "primadonna" purposes as was rumored...

[@romanumeralz]

Always thought it was a cool nod seeing the Two-Face and Riddler costume, in Batman & Robin. 🎞

[@ernestinewhite907]

I love to see Tommy Lee Jones come back as two face. He seems to have fun with the roll. He my favorite all so.

[@grapeshot]

The Bat's stubborn refusal to expire is driving us crazy.

[@thereviewbox1309]

I still wonder what it would have been like if their plans to have Clint Eastwood play two face in the '60s series would have came to fruition

[@JoeChillton]

Two Face in the rejected design with splashes of blood looks like a million bucks and sorta looks like the Scott Snyder look in DC Rebirth. Black and red suit.

[@HoustonSoto]

I LOVE the design of his character. So wonderfully arch and very comic book. Tommy Lee Jones’s Two Face is fun, albeit a poor adaptation of the character.

[@starblue6tv]

Two Face flipped the coin in Wayne Manor 3 times because he was deciding the fate of the 3 occupants in there.

[@mr.throwback4875]

Great job!!! How bout a video examining Chase Meridian??? Or all the rest of the characters??? Like Alfred, Jim Gordon, or Bf’s Batman

[@ititself5603]

Jack Nicholson must be in tears knowing that Vee wasn't a fan of his Joker role

[@DabionFreedom]

I love Tommy Lee's Jones portrayal of Two Face in Batman Forever. because he did alot that I wanted from a Two Face performance, more so & definitely better then Aaron Eckhart's version of the character. "Have the Good Taste to Die". :)

[@kevin10001]

I agree I still feel the two-face part of the dark knight was unnecessary and still feels like it was put it to stretch the movies run time Harvey should have been held over for what we know as the dark knight rises like scarecrow was held over for the dark knight

[@josephgrace5955]

Also, Batman Forever was the first Batman movie I ever got to see in theater and it was at a Drive In theatre of all things. So the nostalgia runs deep with this one

[@TuPapiRicoSuave]

I Loved Two-Face. Honestly Makes This Movie Intriguing and Classic. We didn’t Need Tommy Lee Jones playing Clint Eastwood(Two) and Mel Gibson(Harvey). Thanks For This Video 🙏🏽

[@anthonythomas1962]

"Have the good taste to die" Keep doing ya thing Vee

[@LigerFan]

I didn't like the color palette of Two-Face's evil half, but I'm guessing it came about because the Riddler was already using a lot of green. Still, TLC was really good in the role.

[@TreyStation64]

Tommy Lee Jones was super energetic in Under Siege.

[@BatmanKnightfan]

Batman Forever was the first movie I watched in the cinema as a kid. Along with the BTAS it made a fan. Tommy Lee Jones was perfect cast just wasn’t the Two-Face from the comics or BTAS.

[@thomasgoree7976]

I agree with you about Tommy Lee Jones. But I wholeheartedly disagree with you about Jack Nicholson's Joker IMO he's the most comic book accurate version of the joker More than Heath Ledger or Jered letto

[@roberttreacy8271]

TLJ’s Two Face has a lot of meme potential IMO.

[@manuelgonzaledominguez1149]

People thought he was doing a impression on joker but I heard he watched the trickster Mark hamil and did that performance.

[@jtbamb6145]

People need to recognize Billy Dee Williams Two face, yes he didn’t get to play Two face in the burton films, but he did get to play him in the Lego Batman movie. And he had a super cool look, and drove this really badass construction equipment with different designs on each side

[@asurlybarber3620]

If you want a glimpse of what might have been, check out the Batman 89 graphic novel, the Batman 3 we never got.

[@literallyvigilante9444]

Overall I think Batman forever is a good movie if you just ignore the stuff that came before and after it and just judge it as it’s own thing

[@Jansom]

9:38 Key word in that picture is "TRIED", Vee. There's a reason of why everyone compares TLJ's Two Face with Nicholson's Joker, and it's not because he's doing a good job at copying him.

[@ZekeThePlumber86]

Agreed! I always thought he was the best part of the movie...

[@RyGuy-fi4zx]

Do tell, I'm intrigued to hear more. For real

[@CartoonTriper]

I'm also enjoyed this look of Two-face and Batman Forever who really reflect his duality, also, maybe he didn't reflect his motive because with Jim Carrey and he become like second Riddler.

[@steph9950]

Love your Channel dude

[@Adam_X78]

Thanks

[@brandonspain12345]

It wasn't his fault, it was just bad writing.

[@elwoodjacobs4353]

My fan explanation for this Two-Face: After Harvey's accident, he began hearing a voice in his head. The voice of a criminal. A voice that began to talk to Harvey. The voice began to speak of the "true" nature of life & justice, proclaiming that random chance was the only true order. With how grief stricken he was, Harvey thought about his own tragedy & all the tragedies in the world, & began to understand & even agree with this philosophy, & adopted it himself. The voice then talked to Harvey of the gain & power to be won in crime. After listening to the voice, Harvey consciously, willingly, & eagerly "partnered" with the "other", forming a deadly team between the "two", & turned his life's goal into terrorizing & plundering Gotham City, & attempting to end Batman at every turn, with the "help" of this new "man". "Both" seemed to have equal say in all of Harvey's actions & referred to "themselves" as "we", both were equally cunning & in the plotting & execution of devastating crimes, & "both" took great joy & pleasure in causing as much panic & chaos as "they" possibly could, especially when it meant tangling with Batman as "both" hoped to make him meet his end. "Both" had methods, plans, & paths for schemes that "each" would bring to the table. When making decisions with the coin, "they" didn't choose between good & evil so much as choosing between two paths or choices that "they" had in "minds", & sometimes, "they both" would hope for a certain outcome or be satisfied with a certain path, e.i. killing Dick's parents & killing Bruce/Batman. Because of the accident, "both" of "them" wanted Batman dead; Harvey because he blamed Batman for what happened to him (or "them" as he puts it), & the "other" for "his" own reasons, so when the Riddler told "them" not to kill Bruce, "they" went about flipping the coin, with the "good" side being "not killing", & the "bad" side being "killing", & the "two" of "them" rigged it by flipping until "they" got the side "they both" wanted, & "they" could tell Riddler that it was out of "their" hands as "they" live "their" life by obeying the coin. During Harvey's (unknown) final moments, "they" are getting ready to take the shot, but Batman/Bruce reminded Harvey of his coin & his life mantra, presenting it like a friend helping him, so because of this, Harvey sympathized with Bruce & thanked him for being a good friend, stating, "Emotion's always the enemy of true justice".

[@Freddie2916]

Dude was a cartoon

[@ReconFigures]

Totally hit the nail on the head here. I had the very same assessment when I first watched that movie. He may have seemed like he had a split personality, but both sides didn't seem all that different. Batman: The Animated Series really was (at least for me) the definitive reimagining of the entire Batman universe, and their depiction of Two-Face was spot-on. No surprise that the movie didn't really consider any other source material for their depiction.

[@ProfessorHurt]

I really enjoyed his Two-Face. For many of the same reasons you mentioned.

[@ethanchapman3659]

Even though Batman forever's Two-Face was wierd, there is one thing I like about him. In the comics his disfigured face was green because of the acid. I like that in live action two face look is all red and The Riddler is green, it creates a contrast.

[@tn420animations9]

This was my introduction to two face.

[@robertfrazier6563]

I do admit that Tommy Lee Jones as Two-Face was over the top ( Honestly he made a perfect Mr. Freeze ) but he was very entertaining. I don't think that he trying to upstage Jim Carey but trying to make his character more derange.

[@allysanchez5630]

“ let’s start this party with a bang!” is one of my favorite lines he said

[@deebojordan7406]

Your intro got me in tears!!! "BLAST HIM!! 💥💥💥" 😭😭

[@Sweetestsadist]

I hate this movie, but consider Tommy to be the one saving grace. He was really fun.

[@CassidyShadewing]

You kinda hit over the head why I like this performance. It's completely opposite to every other role I've seen him in. It's not a great comics two-face, but its a spot on 'what if Two-Face was in the 60's series' Two-Face. They play up his split personality gimmick that also highly reflects in his base, his two arm candies, and to some degree his henchmen. As much as I like Two-Face, I can't hate this performance because its such fun and energetic from an actor typically not known for that while giving us a vision of a version of the character that never was. And yes, it works perfectly for Batman Forever becuase it's trying to find the right line between Burton's darker films, and the lighter family friendly direction WB wanted after the backlash of Returns. And you don't get much more family Friendly then the Adam West series. And yeah, I didn't care for the design of TDK Two-Face, he just doesn't look right to me, and he never really captured the charisma and personality that Harvey ususally has. He just feels like a wet fart of a two-face. LIke if Forever Two-Face is overdoing it, then TDK is under doing it.

[@dams6829]

Tbh this video was quite refreshing. I am glad someone else likes the perfomance as well.

[@ImAlwaysFilming]

Never been this early and for something this nostalgic ❤️

[@dankmem477]

Two-Face is your favorite Batman character? Maybe you could expand upon that... if you want. You know, more Two-Face directed videos (such as "Who is the best Two-Face?", "What the character of Two-Face could've/should've been", and stuff like that). Just a thought, if you want... Also he's not my favorite but I would like reasons and insights to like the overall character because despite him seeming outclassed by villains like Joker and Riddler, I still feel like there is some depth to him that's missing from my perspective that makes him different and unique from the others and not just some 50% angry-50% not angry crime dude who could've been but isn't the flair of a corrupted justice do'er like Pain from Naruto

[@jswatch9270]

I'm still waiting for the Schumacher cut of BATMAN FOREVER.

[@alexandraroman4121]

This Two face should’ve been in dark knight,NGL.

[@muninncr0w917]

Now vee I and a lot of viewers would like to see you talk about the dark knight two face.

[@jayrob3045]

I had the action figure that came with the coin.

[@emperortrevornorton3119]

I enjoyed it he was the correct amount of camp with darkness despite breaking continuity from Batman Returns even though I enjoy Batman Forever than most people... A detail that my dad pointed out to me Robin aka Batboy is on a Norton motorcycle before the Vincent motorcycles/Bruce Wayne's private vehicle museum Also Jim Carey was extremely underrated in Batman Forever

[@randallflagg3700]

Underrated? He was by far the most popular and recognizable character in the movie, and made Jim Carrey even more of an household name that he was thanks to Ace Ventura/The Mask/Dumb&Dumber...

[@avace917]

My main reference for these characters is Batman The Animated Series which ended the same year this came out, so my opinion is pretty limited.

[@daggy561]

loved your take, your so right by saying its the "look" & "aesthetic" were very enjoyable ! #releasetheschumachercut

[@gdoza1393]

Aron eckhart looked so realist was a great Harvey dent . He needed way more time tho to be fleshed out as two-face sucks he was killed off really

[@paulieluppino1856]

I think the biggest different between Tommy Lee Jones and Aaron Eckhart, other than the stetics, is in what's the purpose of their characters.... -Eckhart's Two Face was more like a plot device than an actual character, the reason for Batman to take the "hard choice", to take blame on Harvey's murders to protect his image in order to save Gotham's soul..... Apart from that, all that is established is that he likes justice, he is incorruptible (until he gets corrupted), and that he has a temper.... In short, very vague character traits, right? -From the very beginning of "Batman Forever" is clearly set that Tommy Lee's Harvey IS a character. He has his manierism, he has his goons, his weapons, his crazy plans, etc.... You can see he hates Batman with the passion, and that the coin posses him completely. You may not like this version, or like it but think that Eckhart's version is better, but you can't deny Tommy Lee is one of the main characters in his movie, while Eckhart's version feels more like a secondary character. Thanks for reading so far.....now..... HAVE THE GOOD TASTE TO DIE!.....

[@youknowwhoyouare2269]

Oh

[@paulieluppino1856]

@@youknowwhoyouare2269 .....XDXD

[@fromagenoir7220]

Also the rest of the major characters are brought into the film directly as a response to Two-Face's presence: Batman leaps into the opening battle because of Two-Face, Chase is brought in to consult on Two-Face's activities, Robin motive to exist is due to Two-Face slaughtering his family, and Riddler was only able to rise through the ranks of the criminal underworld by partnering with Two-Face. He is literally THE most important character.

[@RyGuy-fi4zx]

​@@fromagenoir7220 Super well said

[@fromagenoir7220]

@@RyGuy-fi4zx Thanks!

[@oliversvoice4383]

I re-watched Batman Forever in the back-half of last year, and I ended up enjoying it far more than I expected: It’s a near perfect balance between the tone of the Burton films, and the 60s show, and if you view it as a big-budget version of the show, Tommy Lee Jones’ Two-Face, among other choices, make much more sense. Personally, I much prefer The Dark Knight Two-Face in terms of characterisation & overall performance… but Tommy Lee Jones’ works in the film he’s in, and the design is such a great translation of the comic book design. I’d love to see a Two-Face, one day, on screen that somehow melds the comic book/realism look perfectly… or just leans into the former, give me a classic Two-Face with the green or blue face, give me that black and white suit, give me the wild hair on the burned side, really commit to it.

[@trainerredcharizard7982]

He was Acting Really goofy but i do remember liking that..i havent watched B:TAS much so i didnt had some "ultimate Two-Face" in my mind when i went to see the movie.

[@skeetervalentine2471]

I did like the suits. He for sure looked the part.

[@Mr.MidKnight]

I'm gonna be completely honest. Sometimes I don't agree with your opinion, like heath ledger's joker, but I still watch daily. Bc your very entertaining and understanding when it comes down SIMPLY to opinion. And I seriously enjoy that about your content.

[@RobiticDuck]

Personally, I really liked the novelization of Batman Forever. I do enjoy the movie tho

[@JoseMorales-lw5nt]

11:06/ Jesus Christ, I didn't even think such a product existed! That is a damn near duplicate of TLJ as Two-Face! Anybody know the name of the company that made this work of art?

[@dkmenace1990]

One of the worst things in Batman Forever. TLJ's Two Face is bad writing with a Jack Nicholson's Joker performance

[@liamneeson7926]

Bring Tommy Lee Jones back for the upcoming Batgirl movie as a cameo

[@rwlwrestlingleague2975]

I've never agreed quite so strongly with one of your opinions. TLJ could have given us a little "less is more". I blame Joel Schumacher's direction.

[@Brotherofthe4thCompany]

Good to know I'm not the only one who prefers the Tommy Lee Jones Two-Face over Aaron Eckhart's.

[@Slice2099]

Yeah yeah you’re crazy vee

[@Jnensrevenge]

Me and my buddy were watching Batman Forever (quite drunk) a while back and came to a conclusion: Two Face should have been Black Mask.

[@zacky4204]

Love your Batman content!

[@SeasideDetective2]

I appreciate your taking of aesthetics into account when evaluating these characters. I considered the versions of the Joker, the Penguin, and Two-Face in these films to be genuinely ugly and scary, which is why I welcomed the more hammy aspects of their acting; if they had played their roles completely straight, they would have come across not just as psychopaths but as inhuman monsters, which would not only have been terrifying but would have steered the BATMAN franchise too close to horror and the supernatural, which I didn't consider to be a good fit for the stories back then (although the styles of both the comics and the movies have certainly changed nowadays). Jack Nicholson even said that his goal when embodying the Joker had been to make the character villainous enough that kids would want to see him be punished in the end, but not so monstrous that they'd be too scared to watch him. Speaking of aesthetics, how about an analysis of Margot Robbie's three distinct portrayals of Harley Quinn, her costumes and makeup in SUICIDE SQUAD, BIRDS OF PREY, and THE SUICIDE SQUAD being different from one another in many ways. She goes from being a slightly grotesque "gang movie" caricature in the first film, to an outright clown in the second, and finally to what looks like almost a normal woman in the third.

[@kevin10001]

It has been rumored for years that the Adam west Batman was going to originally use Harvey for the episodes True or False Face and Holy Rat Race that feature false face but they dreamed him to scary for kids I actually think it’s actually cause they didn’t have the effects capability in the 60’s to pull of the the acid burn part of his face like they could in 95 u are right in say that two-face from Batman forever is as close to what he could have been on Batman if they actually used him instead of false face

[@Cyberleader19]

Tbh, I like this version of Two-Face too. That being said, I think how Mr. Schummacher should have written the character's portrayal would be like this: Two-Face would constantly be at odds with each other, just like in the comics. There could be scenes in the movie where his good side ( Harvey ) would constantly argue with his bad side ( Big Bad Harv/Two-Face ).

[@ryanmurphy8388]

Honestly, when it comes to attire, I think you can have both takes on him work, just at different times in his post transformation into Two-Face Early on, immediately after scarring, when his focus is more on his rage and revenge, he'd adopt a look similar to Eckhart, just a simple business suit (with of course one side burned), and later on, following one or two escapes from Arkham and fully embracing the supervillain role, he'd adopt something more along the lines of Jones's attire We can also apply this to the scarring itself (especially in my personal take on Two-Face). We'd have the bright colors and fleshy look (although my version would be more red than purple to represent constantly inflamed skin) of Jones and the comic accurate missing eye lid exposed teeth plus the semi realistic look of a burn victim (though mine's more melty and based on real acid attack victim pics than fire) that we got from Eckhart

[@CollinThomasEverett]

Clint Eastwood was in talks, possibly even cast to play Two-Face in the 60s Batman show! It fell through, but that would've been the cold and calculated performance we needed; especially as a guide to Tommy Lee Jones in Forever. Poor choice of casting, he didn't enjoy his time on set, and he had no idea what he was doing as Harvey Dent.

[@kamilahscorner]

I loved his rendition of 2face too.😁

[@trumpcicle]

Lately it's felt like more and more often I just want a video done on the two batman telltale seasons especially if two-face is your favorite of all time and he was everywhere in season 1

[@nicknoga564]

What bums me out is that Jones missed an amazing opportunity to play the character as dark opposite the light-hearted Riddler. They would’ve contrasted so beautifully, and Jones already HATED Carrey. He wouldn’t have even had to act.

[@Extinguisher10]

I can't see Brandon Routh without think F Shaw!

[@allenbelk6222]

Also, have you read Grant Morrison's Arkham Asylum graphic novel? I'd be interested in your take on Harvey's appearance in that story.

[@fromagenoir7220]

"If the Bat wants to play, we'll play!" A lot of people say he didn't research the character, but I have seen an interview where he talks about discussing the character with Bob Kane who felt he grasped the character really well. I think the broad acting was due to Joel's direction and not Tommy's instinct. Despite that direction, I do believe Tommy was able to bring nuance to the role, plus his eyes radiate a dangerous intensity which convinces me his character really escaped from a mental institution for the criminally insane. Is it the right kind of insanity? No. But he did what he could in spite of Schumacher. I also think darker moments (either from the novelization or behind the scenes footage) that were cut in order to make the film lighter (and to direct attention to Carrey more). Despite the lack of these darker moments and campier tone, I always posit that he is the only genuinely scary villain from Schumacher's films which is down to Tommy being an amazing actor. He gave Schumacher the camp the director was going for while successfully bringing a palpable sense of threat to the role. I continue to watch this film mainly for Tommy (and Michael Gough's Alfred) as I despise pretty much everyone else's performances in the film (especially Carrey). BTAS has the best Two-Face, but I prefer Jones over Aaron Eckhart's afterthought Two-Face (Which is Nolan's fault not Eckhart). my TWO cents. "Have the good taste to die!"

[@lrlong1285]

I hear ya. But this falls apart when you start to compare Jones to Aaron Eckhart‘s Two-Face. It’s the epitome of apples and oranges. This video could’ve been about the under appreciated job Tommy Lee Jones does when taking a look back at the film, enhanced by your obvious lifelong fondness for this interpretation. There is no need to unrealistically bash Christopher Nolan‘s visual interpretation. Your criticism of that version doesn’t hold up because you fail to acknowledge that Christopher Nolan was going for (and you didn’t even mention this word) realism. When you factor that in it makes sense that the Dark Knight version wasn’t fuchsia… it makes sense that that version looked like a burn victim. You even say it would be hard to forget somebody whose face was half pink as if seeing Nolan’s Two-Face in real life wouldn’t leave an impression on you… Still, good video. I recently went back and rewatched this movie specifically because I wanted to give another look to Jones’ performance. I still appreciate it.

[@magicfeliuri2681]

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[@afterhourscinema782]

If Tommy Lee Jones was Two-Face in "The Dark Knight", I think he wouldve been in competition with Heath for the Oscar. He has such a great "Lawman" presence (Just watch "The Fugitive), he truly could've given us something special

[@paulieluppino1856]

6:32 ...Of course there's a resemblance, look at them.... They're like two drops: one of wine, the other of water.... Both are liquids!!

[@CognitiveChaosCreations]

Watching Vee compare & contrast J.N.'s Joker & T.L.J.'s Two-Face made me realize that said amazing actors could seemingly change roles & STILL be incredibly stellar renditions of said characters, e.g. T.L.J. as The Joker & J.N. as Two-Face... What do y'all think? (Great analysis per usual, Mr. Infuso!)

[@curtispodcastnetwork]

Jim Carrey should have been the Joker in the Joquin Phoenix movie

[@allenbelk6222]

Heh. I often remark that I thought Tommy Lee Jones was great as Cesar Romero's Joker.