Ironically enough , the the Italians did put up a tremendous effort in holding back the Soviets , but due to the glorious Benito logistics , they were usually always being forced to defend and attack positions while underequipped , and undersupplied As for the Romanians , participation points
@RyanTheHero32 жыл бұрын
I've often heard of accounts of Italians putting up incredible fights throughout the war in other theatres too, just underequipped and supplied as you said.
@AwayWithYouVileBeggar2 жыл бұрын
Both the Italians and Romanians were in the same boat here. They had great soldiers, praised by foreign officers for their bravery and so on but lacked heavy weapons, anti-tank weapons and tanks. It's also funny when you read about how both the Romanian and Italian generals on the Don river asked the Germans to help them push the Soviet salients back over the Don so that they can use the river as a natural anti-tank obstacle with the Germans offering them no support because "The USSR is not capable to ammas a force vast enough to break the flanks" and the rest is history. Another funny fact is that after 2 Romanian divisions retreated into Stalingrad and the 6th army was split in half Paulus himself state that the 2 divisions that held their positions the longest were the Romanian ones. So the Romanians had experience in urban warfare (Odessa and Sevastopol) and the Italians had amazing mountaineers so where does Germany send them? In the plain to be run over by the Soviet "non existent" tanks obviously. #GermanyBestAlly
@lastword87832 жыл бұрын
8:50 if you want a book like that try "The Forgotten Soldier" by Guy Sajer about his experiences on the Eastern Front as a Wehrmacht Soldier. Its pretty depressing.
@zacharyvawter9832 жыл бұрын
I have that book it’s very good
@crocodilealigator55042 жыл бұрын
Cod 1 had the best stalingrad River crossing I have seen
@Nabuhodonozor10002 жыл бұрын
Enemy at Gates xD
@crocodilealigator55042 жыл бұрын
@@Nabuhodonozor1000 great movie too XD
@diegoragot6552 жыл бұрын
@@crocodilealigator5504 historically innacurate
@tallenta60712 жыл бұрын
@@diegoragot655 but still great nonetheless (if you ignore the historical aspects)
@diegoragot6552 жыл бұрын
@@tallenta6071 don't like The message of simping, but still a great film
@ГлебГолдаев-ь4в2 жыл бұрын
"Thousands were executed" haha 140k were caught by the nkvd, only 1189 were executed
@josuemunoz54552 жыл бұрын
Thats a thousand
@ГлебГолдаев-ь4в2 жыл бұрын
@@josuemunoz5455 But not the "thousands"
@josuemunoz54552 жыл бұрын
@@ГлебГолдаев-ь4в still pretty bad, and doesnt count the ones who died on labor camps and torture
@DMlTREl2 жыл бұрын
Who give a shit? NKVD is evil by default
@macknut20332 жыл бұрын
Why does dummy call italian and Romanian armies monkeys even tho they managed to hold their ground for days without anti tank support or air support against a far superior enemy lol
@LuanMower552 жыл бұрын
12:40 ish... Holy shit...
@christiannipales99372 жыл бұрын
I started watching the Vod channel and now I've seen all these videos already...
@thewanderer932 жыл бұрын
A while back I listened to a great audio book called blood red snow, and this vid really reminded me about it
@saltyshackles52272 жыл бұрын
6:50 Stalin at your back, Hitler at your front. Worst sandwich in history 😂 Poor Russians, they endured so much shit.
@damianyoung79232 жыл бұрын
My great grandpa was Romanian and saw shit was hitting the fan so he left and came to America and joined the us army he chose the right side
@mahatmaniggandhi28982 ай бұрын
smart choice
@warcrimeenjoyer2192 жыл бұрын
Bru this video is Elementary at best for describing the battle of Stalingrad good for entertainment I guess
@besacciaesteban2 жыл бұрын
If hitler had let the generals do as they pleased, he'd be dead after the fall of poland 🤣🤣
@PeoplecallmeLucifer2 жыл бұрын
I think Tommy would like the weekly videos the channel World war 2 posts about what happened day by day from start of the war to well early 43 as they stand now
@gidi32502 жыл бұрын
If he is interested in somewhat seeing or hearing these events then can't he watch interviews with the veterans a lot of the soldiers especially ww2 was interviewed and remembered the battles in great detail. For example here on KZbin their is a channel that asks very old people to recount there time in the second world war.
@yari4046 Жыл бұрын
if i had a penny for every time tommkay says "one of my grandpas.." i would not be rich but it be some nice pocket money ig
@sketchye59432 жыл бұрын
Wait Tommy saids Odessa but points to Sevastopol?
@deniskadanovas250 Жыл бұрын
Because tommy likes pretending he knows shit
@malisegaming54432 жыл бұрын
Markoni suggest tik amazing history channel I think it would be interesting to tommy
@robotube7361 Жыл бұрын
6:28 Im not even Russian and Im so proud of these people.
@ЕвгенийЗамятин-в2ц2 жыл бұрын
this documentary though... it's so wrong in so many aspects. tik history made a great series about this particular battle but its 31 episodes 40-60 minutes each and not even half finished, that's must see if you interested.
@calebbrooks10372 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure he had this video on like 75% speed
@PhantomFly_Br22 жыл бұрын
i wish he would react to TIK videos..
@TheStink72762 жыл бұрын
Marknoi? Haha more like Stinky Macaroni😎🤙✨
@sohrb2 жыл бұрын
I always hear how vital stalingrad was for the war effort. like how much industry could one city have?
@FantasticKruH2 жыл бұрын
I am no expert but I also heard it was the city that connected the railways to the south aka the place with the oil.
@Dron47472 жыл бұрын
It's not only for industry. It was a key city to a Caucasian oil and also was a first huge victory that show world that Germany can be destroyed. Turkey and Japan starts to think that Germany can't handle war on two fronts and is not a great idea to join it.
@matthewdoran34482 жыл бұрын
10 civs
@stephencarroll99352 жыл бұрын
The tractor factory bro
@bradym3402 жыл бұрын
Stalingrad sat on the rail network that the allies were using to ship supplies to the soviets through Iran
@LazzieMazzie6 ай бұрын
also note to those who say nato is anti russian show me tell me where in their agreement of nato it says: "we are anti russian" or anything like that show me the fucking sources
@marsh25372 жыл бұрын
Great opening line lol
@nikos46772 жыл бұрын
One of my grand grand pas died from pneumojia a few days after the war ended because it was cold there😑
@comercialaviation2 жыл бұрын
Tommy thinks they died for 'freedom' when they were just defending their country. Citing Putin as worse than Stalin? Oh come on mate. You cannot be that naive.
@arnoldlynchthewanderer3 ай бұрын
"Terrible Stalin" is a man made image about Stalin. Ridiculous that even Stalin guessed that it would be
@1CE.2 жыл бұрын
12:52 Omg even more toxic than Hassan
@isaacrubin92912 жыл бұрын
This video was not the great… I mean the doc tommy is wonderful as always
@lesserson21822 жыл бұрын
I am a historian of this exact era, the Nazis absolutely could have won Stalingrad. Whether it would have lead to the desired strangulation of soviet supply and access to enough oil to fuel the war-machine is another question. P.S. if you only engage in history to make random claims to support your own shallow views on contemporary politics, find another hobby that is not as difficult but allows for the same kind of performative speculation and leave the history to the grown-ups. Tommy should not have to insert a qualifier every 12 seconds because morons are unable to think in historical terms. We get it, you're not a Nazi, you do not like the Nazis, excellent, me neither. Now lets get back to the historical events in questions and assess them as such.
@bobsspike61002 жыл бұрын
Right....
@alexbon47682 жыл бұрын
There is no "good" or "bad" in history. Just facts and events. He only thinks some were good and the other bad because he is a german and is brainwashed to hate his grandparents.
@team3am149 Жыл бұрын
They won Stalingrad, even in our timeline. They just lost everywhere around it, and that was unpreventable.
@szymonroczniewski63778 ай бұрын
How so? The supply lines were completely broken as soon as they entered Stalingrad with the quartermaster of the 6th army reporting in November 1942 that they will soon face petrol and food shortages (they weren't even encircled yet) the german high command was either completely clueless or was acting to save it's own skin the romanian flanks fell cause of undersuplly and wrong reports of the size of the buildup of soviet forces on their positions the airlift operation was a failure with Richtoffen acting for the good of the luftwaffe and sending false reports of the weather so his planes wouldn't fly to Stalingrad Mansteins relief operation was a joke being a few weeks late letting the soviets build a solid outer perimetre around the encircled 6th army so how exactly could they Haven won?
@L.CROSS02 жыл бұрын
Chad soviet soldiers hold back virgin nazis
@ТопчубекНурдинов-в6ж10 ай бұрын
Please, stop it
@johnny13x22 жыл бұрын
You guys and our Glorious Serbian Leader here probably know this already, But has the Tomster watched any videos from PotentialHistory at all? Given some of the things he's said in this video and others I don't think he has, and it might prove beneficial for him if he did.
@jebusmilk2 жыл бұрын
YOU MUST BE SO PROUDE OF THESE POPLE THEY LITERALY RAPPED BERLIN
@TheCookie692 жыл бұрын
and the germans did the same to the Russians. And you spelled it wrong
@DMlTREl2 жыл бұрын
All from secret documents?
@cinnamon35789 ай бұрын
What did the Germans do to the Slavs
@highborn54737 ай бұрын
well. And nazis literaly rapped whole europe.
@ananyapandey90172 жыл бұрын
Do 1971 india pakistan war
@melkor34962 жыл бұрын
Wtf He’s eating DISGUSTING.
@BleaK12112 жыл бұрын
Yeah hes constantly eating something in his streams. I dont like it either.
@thatlawnmowerguy92 жыл бұрын
Can't believe you called me annoying smh @Melkor
@Live.Laugh.Lobotomy2 жыл бұрын
@@BleaK1211 almost like if he’s streaming for a long time he needs to eat
@BleaK12112 жыл бұрын
@@Live.Laugh.Lobotomy A lot of other streamers/KZbinrs also have to eat but I dont remember seeing any of them eat like Tommy.
@Live.Laugh.Lobotomy2 жыл бұрын
@@BleaK1211 hasanabi
@1CE.2 жыл бұрын
7:22 Dommy, shut it. I can’t with these ignorante takes man 🤦🏻♂️
@range_de_tir2 жыл бұрын
?
@MeowingWhale2 жыл бұрын
Putin lover !
@1CE.2 жыл бұрын
@@MeowingWhale Heck yes! But irrelevant, his take is so dumb. Right, the USSR was fighting for freedom 😂
@DMlTREl2 жыл бұрын
@@1CE. Not so many people know that soviets was fighting for survival
@1CE.2 жыл бұрын
@@DMlTREl They really weren’t Germany only wanted up until the Ural’s
@tunganhnguyen9092 жыл бұрын
Wow, there are a lot of shit posters on Twitch lul
@FumbleFusion2 жыл бұрын
Those arguments of Soviet soldiers being hero's goes both ways tho. German soldiers were hero's also, the only evil people were the leaders and some commanders.. Soviet leaders were as bad if not worst than Nazi leaders.. And that comes from someone who's not German.
@peterocoole69532 жыл бұрын
Heroes of what? 🤔
@FumbleFusion2 жыл бұрын
@@peterocoole6953 well atleast their own countries?😂
@dimitrycccp82552 жыл бұрын
How can they be worse than Nazis? Even if you use the most anti soviet Clames the crimes of the soviets are limited to rape and intecional killing of civilians (on a much smaller scale than the germans, similar to the other allied nations) And no, German soilders weren't heros, the Wehrmacht did the same crimes as the SS, the only thing you can do is respect the fallen, not praise them.
@TheCookie692 жыл бұрын
@@dimitrycccp8255 yes
@TheCookie692 жыл бұрын
The germans were not heroes.
@Nabuhodonozor10002 жыл бұрын
Russian commies was a lot worse than German nazis.
@jacobmccracken72322 жыл бұрын
the ussr wasn’t trying to ethnically cleanse people groups off the face of the earth like Germany was this should be pretty obvious
@Joe-el2wx2 жыл бұрын
@@jacobmccracken7232 True. Because they were busy killing their own with famines and huge purges.
@Live.Laugh.Lobotomy2 жыл бұрын
@@jacobmccracken7232 I mean I don’t agree with the original comment but that’s just setting yourself up there
@jacobmccracken72322 жыл бұрын
@@Joe-el2wx the purges in the government were for solidifying power and there’s little evidence to support the idea that the famines were preplanned
@Live.Laugh.Lobotomy2 жыл бұрын
@@jacobmccracken7232 I mean killing all of a farming class may have something to do with the famine
@danielanderson123212 жыл бұрын
1. i wouldve took my chances with sealion 2. Take account of population and manpower potential of USSR 3. Centralize nuclear project (nazi command had them work in seperate groups) 4. invade turkey, split with russia. 5. time, buy time to invade russia, also via turkey to get to the oil quicker and to set up a big defense like vs east europe for an inevitable defense. 6. put effort to coerce japan to invade russia instead of geting USA involved 7. dont split up army in north and south, focus on moscow not stalingrad.
@Live.Laugh.Lobotomy2 жыл бұрын
No matter what happened they were always fucked
@RyanTheHero32 жыл бұрын
An attempt at Sea Lion would almost certainly end up in failure. Germany didn’t have the fleet required to protect the shipments of supply over the channel in the event a landing was even successful at all (largely because they lost most of their heavy ships in Weserubung). I believe Military History Visualised did an in-depth video on it.
@jakekn73042 жыл бұрын
If Japan tried to attack the soviets they would have gotten fucked ,they even tried to do so during WW2 but it failed miserably and so Japan decided to fight the USA instead and attacked pearl harbor
@Live.Laugh.Lobotomy2 жыл бұрын
@@jakekn7304 when did the Japanese try and fight the soviets
@jakekn73042 жыл бұрын
@@Live.Laugh.Lobotomy Japan fought the soviets many times especially between 1932-1939 .It was during the battles of khalkhin gol that Japan got absolutely fucked and decided not to invade the soviets but to go to war with the USA instead