Thanks so much to all the Thames Barrier team: it was an incredible privilege to be able to film there. And thanks also to the production and drone teams: the Barrier is next to London City Airport, so there's a lot of paperwork and approvals required to fly there!
@AnimeFan-wd5pq3 жыл бұрын
And thank you for a great video as always!
@scoopet3 жыл бұрын
GREAT VIDEO
@sixstringedthing3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing all the paperwork and complicated back and forth which enables you to bring us these fascinating videos from random interesting places!
@daandanx3 жыл бұрын
Thanks indeed!
@BodyMusicification3 жыл бұрын
Drone paperwork was worth it! It didn't all come together for me until I saw the gates closing in the final sped-up shot.
@AFriendlyTheo3 жыл бұрын
I love the protection systems where the question of "what if they're overwhelmed" is entirely overshadowed by "we'll have bigger problems at that point"
@Liam-fd4uh3 жыл бұрын
It's scarily logical
@4TheRecord3 жыл бұрын
The water would be going around the barrier just as easily as over it at that point.
@mndlessdrwer3 жыл бұрын
@@4TheRecord Precisely. If it failed, the city was already underwater from other sources than just the inrush from the Thames.
@doctorwholover10123 жыл бұрын
The same energy as asking the bomb defusal guy "how are you so calm when defusing bombs?" "Either I get it right, or it's not my problem anymore"
@gorisenke3 жыл бұрын
Its like earthquakes here in California. Hospitals are built to not fall in a quake, and anything big enough to shake them off their beams would have already leveled everything else into unrecognizable rubble.
@JeffGeerling3 жыл бұрын
The amount of waterway-control systems in parts of northern Europe that are essential to a city's survival is mind-boggling.
@LightningSquad3 жыл бұрын
I uploaded my face reveal.
@domramsey3 жыл бұрын
And to think, it's all controlled by a single Raspberry Pi CM4 😀
@Arkantos1173 жыл бұрын
We like to beat nature into submission.
@mats74923 жыл бұрын
That’s why ocean level rising is so dangerous
@domesticcat17253 жыл бұрын
@@Arkantos117 we have to, or many people would die
@adto59423 жыл бұрын
It would be great to make a series about this topic: systems that are not allowed to fail.
@Honzecki3 жыл бұрын
Awesome idea
@larry3653 жыл бұрын
Would be very interesting!
@Jaxck773 жыл бұрын
Normally I would say “power grids”, but Texas screwed us over yet again with that one.
@MerriemWeebster3 жыл бұрын
Would love a series like this!!!
@TheBooban3 жыл бұрын
...which failed.
@viniciusferrari26533 жыл бұрын
I like this kind of projects, because funding conversations goes like this: "but that's too expensive" - government "it'll be more if it fails" - engineers after that no conversations on this topic were heard ever again.
@douglhorvath3 жыл бұрын
If it was a private company the argument would end with "that's not my problem by them". Just like in Brazil the Vale company operated under state ownership for almost 56 years, after privatized they had at least a dozen "accidents" in 25 years, some VERY catastrophic.
@fetchstixRHD2 жыл бұрын
As the saying goes, "If you think safety is expensive, try an accident"!
@phr3ui559 Жыл бұрын
@@douglhorvath that’s wrong
@40watt53 Жыл бұрын
climate change:
@jasonbfhfj8132 Жыл бұрын
@Mike-lx9qnthe government is evil because it’s ran by people… people who have almost unlimited power and resources to sway people that they aren’t doing anything shady. Seriously, with the thousands of examples of the government doing unethical things, how do you still give them the benefit of the doubt?
@Patterrz3 жыл бұрын
I love how this channel brings attention to super interesting things that would never reach the average KZbin users otherwise
@IceColdGeico3 жыл бұрын
Well said!
@scraps76243 жыл бұрын
Dude I love your videos!
@DannySullivanMusic3 жыл бұрын
i agree! 1000% correct
@tomaszt.42013 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Thanks to this, I have now learned there's a river called Thames.
@stare45393 жыл бұрын
Yee
@Noddydc3 жыл бұрын
That engineer could have his own KZbin channel. He’s so easy to understand and engaging, I see why Tom gave him so much airtime
@dronespace3 жыл бұрын
🙌
@RainaRamsay3 жыл бұрын
I'd subscribe
@Pinkybum3 жыл бұрын
Yes, and his folksy charm belies a very deep technical understanding of the subject.
@hrani3 жыл бұрын
I've never seen anyone describe water physics in such a smooth and casually understandable manner. Very pleasant to listen to
@szabolcsmate52543 жыл бұрын
Fck... I wanted to retweet this. I am mixing up genres of social media. It's late night. I better go to sleep.
@Puhi663 жыл бұрын
Astounding. As a water engineering student, I've heard a lot about "this or that should be built so that it can contain a flood of that magnitude", but never "this needs to contain absolutely any and all floods ever". We design fallible structures because, in most cases, it looks like the smarter choice (to avoid overspending on public infrastructure because apparently we don't have the money to get protection for anytime past the next 50 years or so), but I had yet to run into the problem of how to design something that just cannot, will not, fail.
@girlsdrinkfeck3 жыл бұрын
this is why it makes me sick that the UK still pays india billions every year in froeign aid yet india has a space programme ! british money for british people only !
@Yuvraj.3 жыл бұрын
@@girlsdrinkfeck hahahha then how about Indian jewels out of the queens crown and back in the hands of India, then?
@handsoffmycactus29583 жыл бұрын
This was built at a good time. Now, it would be shipped off and cost billions more and take longer to build.
@KomiyanVT3 жыл бұрын
@@girlsdrinkfeck That's peanuts compared to if it were going into *China* - helping the Indians along is a good thing :) Look at what's going on in Aus - the Liberals here sold our land and jobs to china - they let ccp engineers run our mine-sites and civil structures! I'd rather give $5billion to India's space programme, than give it to the catholic church as the libs just did...
@InvagPrune3 жыл бұрын
@@girlsdrinkfeck we probably should have thought of that before enslaving and colonising them
@ccmarkus3 жыл бұрын
Let me tell you, as a German living near the Ahrtal which suffered massive floods in summer of 2021, buildings will not only be unusable for weeks. It will take months to years to rebuild everything. In December, I drove through the nearby area again and it still looks like a warzone. And it was just a river just shy of 20m in width. I do not want to imagine what happens if the river Thames goes over its banks. It's a good thing that these barriers are maintained well and looked after.
@elanorgamdschie86943 жыл бұрын
I hope you and your loved ones are allright, love from lower saxony :)
@sunil_de68562 жыл бұрын
Stolberg sieht auch noch aus wie Kriegsgebiet... Echt schlimm das
@jamesmorris31232 жыл бұрын
There are no banks, tidal walls both sides of the river were also built 20 miles all the way down to the estuary.
@jamesmccann5312 жыл бұрын
@@jamesmorris3123 those walls are the banks...
@HrLBolle Жыл бұрын
German compatriot, I remember watching a documentary years ago that reported a super-flood before the barrier was built in the course of the Thames, and London was only spared because the levees on the river banks downstream broke in a way you see in Reports of the Mississippi, the father of all rivers, would see where expanses of the order of half Germany are submerged.
@Deltarious3 жыл бұрын
Beefy over engineered infrastructure is always my favourite, particularly when it's for public use or protection. There is this immense sense of pride or satisfaction in knowing that there are all these redundancies and backups and that it's okay if one piece fails. Having that flexibility and 'breating room' as you put it is exceptionally cool and a great reason why critical infrastructure should not necessarily be the best value for it's minimum function, but rather should be cost effective for the protection and extra utility you could get out of it.
@blahbleh56713 жыл бұрын
Well said :))
@rasta77-x7o3 жыл бұрын
This applies to most planes, there is an astounding amount of redundancy and systems in place for the passengers safety, there's a reason they cost half a billion dollars each. Always amazed me how they are made and what is behind the scenes.
@DannySullivanMusic3 жыл бұрын
this is 10000% true
@hjalfi3 жыл бұрын
I'm curious to know about C&C redundancy. How many control rooms do they have? What happens if they all fail --- can engineers raise the barrier manually given physical access? Is there any automation to raise the barriers in the event that the control rooms are offline and the barrier itself physically inaccessible?
@SkatingAdventures3 жыл бұрын
Yesss
@lazymann31153 жыл бұрын
I love "crucial engineering". The people behind it have to go totally overboard with all the failsafes so that in no way can it ever stop working. "Ah yes just in case our backup generator breaks down, install a backup backup generator. You know, just to be safe."
@goldenhate66493 жыл бұрын
And I bet Japan wishes it hadn’t skipped building the full protection systems of Fukushima (the backup generators were within water reach instead of on the roof and the tsunami barrier was reduced dramatically in size)
@Berkeloid03 жыл бұрын
And you'll often find each backup is of a different type and model, so that if there's some manufacturing fault (like a specific part fails after 10 years), it doesn't break in all the backups at the same time as well. Having each backup be different in some way or another means hopefully any faults will only affect one backup at a time.
@catprog3 жыл бұрын
@@goldenhate6649 From what I heard the barrier was high enough to stop the tsunami. The ground underneath however subsided and the wall was now lower.
@WyvernYT3 жыл бұрын
@@catprog Yes. Just designing protection against the largest tidal wave ever seen there would be foolish - they already knew a wave that big could happen. So they designed the protective wall to shrug off a tidal wave twice as big as the largest one ever seen. A lot of people in the English speaking world don't appreciate how completely beyond normal disasters the Fukushima earthquake and tsunami was.
@fanplant3 жыл бұрын
there's very often an unforeseen common point of failure. I know of a place that had 4 generators. All was fine until a chimney fire that served all 4 prevented them from running.
@AnimeFan-wd5pq3 жыл бұрын
Those panning shots are so beautiful. Especially that first shot, really gives you a sense of scale for these massive constructs.
@handitover.3 жыл бұрын
Right?? that was amazing
@thryduulf3 жыл бұрын
Another thing that will make you appreciate the scale is that each of those 61-metre main gates mentioned is the same width as the main span of Tower Bridge - one of the design briefs was that anything that can fit through Tower Bridge must be able to fit through the barrier.
@aidanwarren49803 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of a post-apocalypse series I once read set in London. Apparently the author didn’t know that the Thames would’ve flooded London without the floodgates being operated for multiple years. We’re unaware of so much infrastructure that keeps us alive.
@jacevicki2 жыл бұрын
To be fair to the author, it was probably still working fine on its own on automatic controls and independent power.
@Midi_Hawthorne2 жыл бұрын
It's might be called "the flood" Immediate edit: it's just called "Flood", it is a movie about a flood ravaging through Britain and it stopped when the characters closed the thames barrier.
@bobbob50072 жыл бұрын
City next to me flooded water reached the roof from the gate failing
@trashpandaO6 Жыл бұрын
That could make such an interesting story about the workers trying to keep them operational during a zombie apocalypse so that survivors in the city could have a chance to escape!
@DECODEDVFX7 ай бұрын
London wouldn't flood unless it was hit by a particularly bad storm. The city survived for thousands of years before this barrier was built.
@CarlGorn3 жыл бұрын
The main lesson of the Thames Barrier is this: When you're working against nature, there's no such thing as "over-engineered."
@andyharpist29383 жыл бұрын
Ummmmm and the asteroid belt, Lunay?
@CarlGorn3 жыл бұрын
@@andyharpist2938 Does the asteroid belt exist outside of nature?
@andyharpist29383 жыл бұрын
@@CarlGorn my point was that at any moment we could all be wiped out by cosmic nature and no amount of engineering would work against that
@CarlGorn3 жыл бұрын
@@andyharpist2938 Well, none that we currently have in play, at least. With enough material, expertise, and labor hours, humanity could deploy a network of laser-based detection/targeting satellites to give us as advanced warning as possible of an incoming asteroid. And that targeting information could then be used to guide fields of motorized mirrors into reflecting a concentrated beam of sunlight with a dynamic focal point at the incoming asteroid, burning away much of its mass before it hits atmosphere. Of course, the expense would be hard for any government to justify to their people, considering how unlikely the odds are of such an event happening.
@andyharpist29383 жыл бұрын
@@CarlGorn I see. Sort of like converting one big rock into a trillion house-sized missiles
@4jonah3 жыл бұрын
"This mechanism will never ever fail. And even if it does, it won't."
@EightBall3 жыл бұрын
"We believe the boat is unsinkable.” By the time the White Star Line Vice President spoke those words the Titanic was at the bottom of the ocean...
@wyterabitt21493 жыл бұрын
@@EightBall There's no business profits reason to ignore things like that here, it is probable the Titanic sank because of a fire which was ignored while docked because they decided to risk it and not care due to money. But even then it was a business that built it anyway, with the minimum they could get away spending - if it was a similar example there would have been another several failsafes on top costing vast amounts more money to the point it could never have been built. In reality the Titanic almost couldn't be sunk, and would have survived a direct hit rather than trying to turn and would have survived the side hit without the fire - profits, money, and private business is what really got it.
@andyharpist29383 жыл бұрын
@@wyterabitt2149 Profits, money and private business got you your I-phone matey! And your flight to Spain. And your car and central heated lifestyle. Public money got us the GPO, Mark Drakeford, NCB, and a 6 month wait for a phone connection.
@granite_planet3 жыл бұрын
@@andyharpist2938 The other way around matey. Public money funded the invention of internet, touchscreens and radios that make up your iPhone. Private business got us Juicero. And it makes total sense - revolutionary inventions require more risk, investment and collaboration than a private actor can afford.
@reelgangstazskip3 жыл бұрын
@@EightBall But it was a ship, not a boat.
@vince8943 жыл бұрын
As a Civil Engineer here in the States and a visitor to London a few years back, this is absolutely the correct amount of planning that goes into a project of this magnitude. Thanks, Tom, for your incredible coverage as always, and this is why I love this channel. 🙏🏼
@Revengors3 жыл бұрын
Visit the Delta Works in the Netherlands!
@ToyKeeper3 жыл бұрын
If only the rest of our societal infrastructure was built this way! In particular, internet infrastructure is embarrassingly fragile. :(
@charlescourtwright22293 жыл бұрын
could use a few more redundancies
@bennylofgren32083 жыл бұрын
ToyKeeper Absolutely disagree with you on that. On the contrary, the Internet’s infrastructure is designed to be incredibly resilient, almost to the point of being indestructible. It is designed to survive the nuclear strikes of a WWIII after all. When there is a problem, the Internet will route around it. Sure, there are single points of failure in a number of places, but nowhere that would mean any larger part of the internet (and I mean region to country level) would be completely knocked out.
@PaulJohn013 жыл бұрын
Are there any similar structures in the USA currently or any planned/under construction ?
@Gerwulf973 жыл бұрын
This would be a project I would be *proud* to be a part of. Something that is actually made well, and made to survive any contingency. Incredible work engineers.
@benjaminraymundo67113 жыл бұрын
So many dams and building?...
@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs3 жыл бұрын
Getting "The city must survive" vibes for those redundancy and plan for ship impacts
@SamSitar3 жыл бұрын
nice how they british over build like that.
@weeveferrelaine69733 жыл бұрын
@@SamSitar Most cultures actually overbuilt things historically, however going through various bands of time happened, when cultures would try to cut corners. In modern times though, things are engineered to have a set lifespan, or maximum load, or number of cycles it can survive, and everything about the design is made to be just enough to fulfill that goal. It ensures an efficient use of resources, but it does mean that almost everything in our modern world is semi-disposable- A trend I'm not happy about, but I understand why it's good for design and the market.
@celestialceilagor38023 жыл бұрын
@@weeveferrelaine6973 Um AcTuAlLy
@shiftoff99363 жыл бұрын
@@celestialceilagor3802 ?
@pauliiizweipunktnull3 жыл бұрын
@@shiftoff9936 someone said something smart and oppinionated and the answering person doesn't like thinking.
@BlueJayYT3 жыл бұрын
Fantastically important projects and systems like this are what inspired me to pursue engineering professionally. Fascinating stuff!
@aero423 жыл бұрын
Yay BlueJay! I love your vids, it has filled the Sam O Nella hole in my heart!
@tisFrancesfault3 жыл бұрын
Its also one of the most popular degrees for future terrorists too.
@ventedbus49173 жыл бұрын
Hi BlueJay! Will you do engineering videos as well as history as well then?
@roboticbrain20273 жыл бұрын
How did you feel when you learned 99% of an engineer's job is not to make something last but rather to make it barely stand in order to cut costs?
@programmer18403 жыл бұрын
@@roboticbrain2027 that's just a pessimistic view. How would you feel to needlessly waste resources on something when they can be utilised elsewhere?
@aryasaktiflister_aw3 жыл бұрын
"They didn't cut corners then and that's given us breathing space now" Applies to a lot of aspects in life really
@dcarbs29793 жыл бұрын
As does the opposite: Places where corners are cut in the past gives problems now!
@mytimetravellingdog3 жыл бұрын
which is why the modern trend of cutting corners and under engineering because of short sighted political decisions is bad. When you cut things to the bone it creates both immediate and long term problems.
@mikehunt34203 жыл бұрын
@@mytimetravellingdog financial* Ftfy
@barefootalien3 жыл бұрын
Really makes you worry about all the cost-cutting and corner-cutting seen nowadays in practically everything, doesn't it?
@klop42283 жыл бұрын
@@mikehunt3420 It's both political and financial (often politically financial)
@moosesnWoop3 жыл бұрын
0:32 this is a quality shot Tom - really insane at the level of cinematics available to be able to do this these days.
@davitto013 жыл бұрын
I get the feeling Tom walks through a city, sees a door in a building somewhere, down an alley and just thinks. "I'm going to find out what is in there." Then spends the next week in the local library researching it.
@hazza3353 жыл бұрын
I think you’re probably spot on!
@randomobserver81683 жыл бұрын
You're likely right- and London in particular has a lot of winding alleys, funky doorways and forgotten tunnels, so plenty more content to come.
@qactustick3 жыл бұрын
And/or talking to people who own or know about that door
@nevreiha3 жыл бұрын
maybe so but the thames barrier is quite large and hard to miss anywhere east of the O2
@davitto013 жыл бұрын
@@nevreiha Tell that to "The Sand Kite"
@carmenclemons25563 жыл бұрын
"...That would probably be fairly career-limiting(!)" I'd like to complement both the engineer for that marvelous example of British understatement and whoever did the closed caption for not being able to resist the exclamation point.
@Numantino3123 жыл бұрын
human reources: "recently, there have been some concerns about your on-the-job performance; please sign your action plan"
@larksie3 жыл бұрын
The captioners consistently use (!) to indicate understatements like that and I love it! The captions on Tom Scott videos are always impeccable and it feels really supportive.
@Numantino3123 жыл бұрын
@@larksie is the (!) a british thing?
@larksie3 жыл бұрын
@@Numantino312 good question... I've no idea as I'm not british haha. It seems like a good way to show understatement though and I believe heavy understatement itself is considered Very British 😛 Where I'm from we do aggressively informal sarcasm instead, which might be even harder to caption!
@antediluvianatheist52623 жыл бұрын
@@Numantino312 Yes.
@perrymarshall85842 жыл бұрын
My grandfather was on the committee of people that design it, cool to see that all these years later, his work is still working, rip!
@cubfan3 жыл бұрын
This was a really high quality video Tom. Great job.
@corners17333 жыл бұрын
yh
@carnage_ender9983 жыл бұрын
Hi cubfan
@koenschaper88213 жыл бұрын
Yo Cub! Didn't expect to see you here good sir.
@heatshield3 жыл бұрын
cub always found in the best places
@wraith_13673 жыл бұрын
Oh hey cub!
@Goodgu39633 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love these types of CANNOT fail systems and I think they really show what humanity is truly capable of.
@carso15003 жыл бұрын
When humans work to solve a problem we solve it
@antediluvianatheist52623 жыл бұрын
IF you liked that sort of thing, go look at China.
@clou093 жыл бұрын
@@antediluvianatheist5262 ah the tofu dreg engineering 🤣
@Zantsui3 жыл бұрын
“The PM was in his wellies in the House of Commons, we say that’s fairly career limiting” true British understatement
@LewHarriman2 жыл бұрын
I suspect that there were many in both the political and engineering communities who, during the budgeting and planning in the 1970's were saying: "You guys are NUTS! This thing is grossly over designed! Irresponsible waste of precious resources! Call in the value engineering experts.. I'll bet they can show you how to take 30% out of this overbuilt project!" But somebody stood firm. And that person's courage and wisdom-plus clearly excellent maintenance-is why this magnificent engineering achievement is going to last 40 years beyond its "best if used before" date.
@alanrallings999711 ай бұрын
Those were the days when a PLAN was made by people with a real brain, not an artificial one.😏
@letmechangemyyoutubename15543 жыл бұрын
Tom Scott - "I am almost out of interesting things in England to talk about" also Tom Scott - " heres a fascinating engineering megastructure in London you have never heard of" your channel is amazing
@leoslego59653 жыл бұрын
KERBIN
@JoJoModding3 жыл бұрын
To paraphrase Gene Kranz: The designers just calmly laid out all the possible modes of operation for the Thames Barrier, and failure was not one of them.
@diestormlie3 жыл бұрын
Although they hadn't really fleshed out the 'Lifeboat' mode.
@Jump-n-smash3 жыл бұрын
I wonder how well that works for contingencies like terrorism attacks. The whole system should have triple redundancy and redundant sites under full military control. :)
@DannySullivanMusic3 жыл бұрын
for real dude. entirely right dude
@dufkers3 жыл бұрын
To quote Ed Harris: Failure is not an option.
@contra11243 жыл бұрын
@@Jump-n-smash My guess is they left a lot of things out in the video
@PanduPoluan3 жыл бұрын
I am always in awe of Civil Engineers, especially those that design things that absolutely must not fail.
@user-zp7sf8dh3z3 жыл бұрын
My bottom is sore.
@oliviersavard86763 жыл бұрын
@@user-zp7sf8dh3z okay
@andyharpist29383 жыл бұрын
Never forget that there is only 2mm of aluminium between you and death on an airplane.
@Mr.Scott863 жыл бұрын
@@andyharpist2938 yes let's add more weight to a craft that needs to stay airborne
@triliner2543 жыл бұрын
@@user-zp7sf8dh3z seems legit
@carlgoulding31033 жыл бұрын
I worked on the barrier as a site engineer in 1977 & 1978…….this video brought back some happy memories!
@alanrallings999711 ай бұрын
Did you work with the Armfield engineers ???
@deviljelly33 жыл бұрын
Steve explained that so clearly and perfectly... Great engineering communication
@archivist173 жыл бұрын
Yes. I was struck by that too.
@sinaRambo3 жыл бұрын
I live in Nigeria. I love Tom so much. His passion for the mundane or the more overlooked story is just so peculiar to him and is just the exact type of thing I’ve been into since I was a kid. From Lagos with love, Thanks Tom
@Menelutorex3 жыл бұрын
how many princes you have there ? I got at least few mails from them xD
@NegativeAttitudeYT3 жыл бұрын
@@Menelutorex what a small minded, borderline racially insensitive response to someone simply sharing his gratitude - pleb.
@thesepretzelssuckass2473 жыл бұрын
@@Menelutorex 😐😐😐
@marcussheen3 жыл бұрын
Steve, the guy from the Environment Agency, did such a great job here of explaining how the barrier works. Really engaging presenting style from him!
@cisium11842 жыл бұрын
The growth of the London skyline in the last 25 years has been incredible. I remember when One Canada Square and the BT Tower were the only skyscrapers in London. Maybe a couple others.
@MikhelBL3 жыл бұрын
As an oceanographer this video brings tears to my eyes because of how beautifully that barrier was planned, to give some perspective on why: in the city I was born in México (Ensenada, Baja California) our pier was constructed in 1960 and its breakwater was designed with a height based on calculations of the biggest wave recorded in the last 5 years when in fact at least you should consider 25 years because in this region we experiment huge storms every 20-25 years and there were enough records in California (which was part of Baja California and México until 1840 or so), but since all federal decisions are taken in the country's capital, which doesn't have a sea near it well, engineers who have never seen the sea took the decision that only 5 years was ok... 4-5 years after it was finished the pier was flooded as well as the city by huge waves. In the 1980s it happened again so the breakwater was increased in height BUT again they failed to account for the highest waves and only took an average of the past 15 years. In the 1990s it was flooded again and its height was again increased AGAIN only taking into consideration 15 years and only an average... three years ago (aprox) it was not only flooded again but the waves were so big that they launched huge rocks the size of a car to the pier, rocks that are used as part of the structure of the breakwater... not to mention that they never accounted for litoral transport and the holes between the rocks of the structure were filled with sand and waves just behaved as it was a sandy beach hahahaha damn :(
@gireaffe34573 жыл бұрын
in the netherlands we make stuff to withstand the biggest storms that happen once every 10000 years
@andyharpist29383 жыл бұрын
I lived in Darwin NT Australia in 1974 and read a report that discussed the complete absence of cyclone protection in buildings. Only three months later I spent four hours clinging to a bare roof as debris swept passed me at over 100 mph. I have the glass in my wrist to this day. I have spent my life being deeply cynical about authorities. No injections and no gene therapy for me.
@garysheppard40283 жыл бұрын
@@andyharpist2938 Bit of a leap from civil engineering projects dependent on the whims of local authorities to gene therapy where the results are peer reviewed and can be replicated by anyone anywhere in the world with sufficient skill. You're confusing scientific research with infrastructure policy. Personally, I don't trust computer scientists. I don't believe computers exist...
@andyharpist29383 жыл бұрын
@@garysheppard4028 Peer reviewed in Wuhan?
@garysheppard40283 жыл бұрын
@@andyharpist2938 Nothing if not predictable I guess...
@jonb33113 жыл бұрын
When the barrier was being built, there was deep concern that flood water pushed back down the Thames would be forced up the many rivers and streams that run into the river and flood the areas around where the tributaries joined. Obviously the river banks were raised to fix this issue. One village on the River Darent in Kent, became obsessed by the possibility that push back would flood them and wanted the river banks raised by 10ft, from the Thames to the village. The village, Eynsford, had been flooded in 1968 by a rush of water coming down the valley. It took some persuading to get the local councillors to understand that being 200ft higher than the Thames meant they were very, very safe.
@andrewjones5753 жыл бұрын
Since the Thames Barrier was put in, the Thames has burst its banks in Surrey, Berkshire & Oxfordshire.
@XpOzgamingx3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewjones575 Nothing to do with the Thames Barrier. Rivers flood. Breaking news. Is flooding on the Trent, Derwent etc. the fault of the Thames Barrier also?
@56Seeker3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewjones575 That's a truth with modifications. The Abingdon/Culham/Sutton courtney area flooded every year when I was a kid, as it's done for thousands of years - that's why the thames valley is one giant gravel pit.
@zondiw50073 жыл бұрын
@@andrewjones575 The Thames barrier doesn't contribute to upstream flooding - it holds water back from going upstream, it doesn't prevent downstream flow (I mean, it probably could, but isn't used for that). The problem is a reflected surge going back downstream and causing flooding of other rivers that empty into the Thames estuary.
@andrewjones5753 жыл бұрын
@@XpOzgamingx I didn't mean to imply that. What I mean is that the upstream flooding is still as frequent.
@namenamename3903 жыл бұрын
"If the ENTIRE British national power grid fails, it has three separate diesel generators, any one of which could operate the entire thing" My gosh that's a lot of redundancy. I love it.
@phyphor3 жыл бұрын
It's one of the great feats of British engineering which, because it *works* is never really spoken about.
@LazyMcCrazy3 жыл бұрын
And if the 3 generators also fail, this warehouse of hamsters on wheels is set in motion...
@andreasthomsen8523 жыл бұрын
@@LazyMcCrazy Or a hand crank XD
@Aztesticals3 жыл бұрын
@@LazyMcCrazy Nah they got that giant water battery then.
@Mike-oz4cv3 жыл бұрын
At that point you have to wonder why they didn’t just built it so it closes automatically if power is lost (i.e. just through gravity or springs or something).
@Roonasaur27 күн бұрын
3:50 ". . . fairly career-limiting." Love it.
@danieljensen26263 жыл бұрын
".. how you have to build when something cannot be allowed to fail." Meanwhile, Texas setting up their electrical grid: "We don't really get winter here, right?"
@Terratops4743 жыл бұрын
At least it can deal with summer heat! >.>
@EverythingDigital57793 жыл бұрын
Haha
@NirateGoel3 жыл бұрын
That system was scarily close to escaping catastrophe. a frequency drop of less than a second was all that it took to take out their grid. (If I recall correctly)
@speedbird15983 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile California: Largest economy in America has regularly scheduled loadshedding!
@intiorozco50633 жыл бұрын
Why they made it entirely independent of the rest of the country's grid is beyond me. Americans...
@CaptainCarthex3 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of Practical Engineering's video on bridges where Grady explains that anyone can build a bridge but only an engineer can build one that just barely stands. It was about not wasting money by making things overly strong. It is interesting to see the opposite of that problem where you need to be super super strong.
@SapioiT3 жыл бұрын
6:53 "If t his was anything else, you could say the redundancy was over-specified, that requirements like this were ridiculous, *but with so much at stake,* the Thames Barrier is a marvel of not just engineering, but of *how you have to build when something cannot be allowed to fail.* And *that* is how the infrastructure keeping our world together should be built.
@sayandas53 жыл бұрын
And that is something you might not have known
@Keneo13 жыл бұрын
I would put a redundant barrier using another means of operations in front or behind it just for redundancy. Doesn’t look redundant to e.g. a plane impact yet, and there might be other modes of failure that haven’t been discovered yet.
@erikziak12493 жыл бұрын
@@Keneo1 I would be more afraid of a terrorist attack than a plane. Just stuff a cargo ship full with military grade explosives and let it detonate while passing throguh the gate.
@KD-ou2np3 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily. Its okay to build plenty of stuff with a decently long lifespan and just replace it. Sometimes technology in a certain area of infastructure can develop quite a lot and its better to replace the old thing with something new. Rather than make it irreplaceable. Especially if the tech ends up being so old that current day engineers need a specially focused education just to understand it.
@TomDestry3 жыл бұрын
@@erikziak1249 Blowing it up has little value unless you time it during a debilitating flood. Also, I'm no expert, but I think the coast guard would be against allowing cargo ships filled with military grade explosives into London.
@VamLoveAndKisses2 жыл бұрын
Steve was excellent in this video. He was so engaging and knowledgeable without the information going over the heads of non-engineers.
@nickfisher62693 жыл бұрын
This may be my favorite kind of Tom Scott video. “Here’s a serious problem, and here are the people and systems that have got it covered.”
@diestormlie3 жыл бұрын
"Here's something that could be a serious problem. I will now proceed to should that it is being dealt with, how it is being dealt with, and some of the people that are dealing with it. There. Wasn't that nice?"
@CED993 жыл бұрын
I think you should have mentioned Tom shows the people dealing with it are serious people. The "we have various modes of operation, because we may not have time to fix/troubleshoot" and "we can do it in various ways to be gentle to the river" *Chef's* *kiss*
@BlackBuck7773 жыл бұрын
Proud to say vital replacement equipment is still provided by an original British manufacturer (me!), some 45 years after the original order.
@bryannonya97692 жыл бұрын
I think you mean its made in china and assembled there. Nothing is actually made anywhere but china.
@matthewreilly71532 жыл бұрын
Good job mate
@-thanawat-82962 жыл бұрын
cool
@CynicalOldDwarf2 жыл бұрын
Fabricated in your own shed next to a pigeon coup I take it?
@chrism4008 Жыл бұрын
Sshhh, dont let the secret out bruh, gonna outsource yourself
@randomobserver81683 жыл бұрын
I'm glad somebody built infrastructure with multiple redundancy and localized power and control in mind. In the 21st century that's starting to seem like rare genius.
@adaddinsane3 жыл бұрын
It was built in 1984, so this century doesn't really come into it...
@dancordt3 жыл бұрын
@@adaddinsane Started in '74 and finished in '84
@KMn0483 жыл бұрын
As an engineer who works in infrastructure I can promise you that it still happens everywhere, its just the public only notices when something fails and not that 1000s of projects that don't
@michaelbelkadi22443 жыл бұрын
I painted the insides of the barriers a couple of years ago. I had full access to the barriers and the tunnels. Every morning we would have a tool box talk and it would take about 20 to walk from the North side to the South Side in the tunnels under the Thames. I really did love that job, happy days...
@Minnakht233 жыл бұрын
I like hearing about prevention. "What does this make? It makes twelve-figure losses not happen." On a smaller scale, people tend to cut corners on maintenance, I'm glad that at least on this scale it is taken seriously.
@kava23403 жыл бұрын
you have to when the entire British economy is fully reliant on it
@Bacopa683 жыл бұрын
I once heard a lecture by a public health manager who described her job thusly: "I am the head of a largely invisible organization in the business of creating abstract non-events."
@agilemind62413 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I wish the media / communication people would frame it that way. We should all be striving for a boring world, without wars, disasters, crime, etc...
@vigilantcosmicpenguin87213 жыл бұрын
99% of society's infrastructure relies on things that are completely invisible.
@augustuslunasol10thapostle3 жыл бұрын
@@agilemind6241 Let the unfortunate death of 1 person be regarded as much of a tragedy as a single plane crashing. A world where a single accidental death is considered a tragedy is a world worth striving for
@PTMYoutube3 жыл бұрын
Nothing better than a Tom Scott video to help you keep procrastinating!
@kroezelgaming3 жыл бұрын
You reminded me that I had an exam 🥱🥱🥱🥱😶😶😶
@Paperowner13 жыл бұрын
aah sweet sweet procrastinating by watching some facts that im never gonna remember
@LightningSquad3 жыл бұрын
I uploaded my face reveal.
@averageuman36813 жыл бұрын
You aren't allowed to attack me like that
@Schattengewaechs993 жыл бұрын
Talking about not being allowed to fail...
@aron53773 жыл бұрын
Such great engineering and design. The huge margin of safety and the fact that multiple unrelated systems would all need to fail at the same time for something to go wrong is awesome.
@TheScoutnation3 жыл бұрын
And those system backups would also need to fail
@FeIine_D3 жыл бұрын
In an apocalyptic setting, I always wondered how long these structures would last without human intervention.
@matthewmac57873 жыл бұрын
Considering there are still remnants of concrete structures the Romans used for ports. If nothing major happens I'd guess a couple of thousand years maybe?
@bobbysreview3 жыл бұрын
@@matthewmac5787 i think they mean if the structures weren’t run by staff what would happen as a result as it’s clearly reliant on staff to operate
@KrK0073 жыл бұрын
@@bobbysreview Well, honestly, if there wasn't any staff left anymore, I think at that point it wouldn't really matter. Flood damage to an empty, presumably ravaged city, is kinda a moot point.
@waterzap993 жыл бұрын
@@KrK007 London used to be a swamp. It will just become a swamp again
@redrunn33883 жыл бұрын
@@waterzap99 Ok ''Swamp Thing''.
@katfoster8453 жыл бұрын
My Grandad was one of the engineers who built it. He always was one for doing a job properly.
@MazHem3 жыл бұрын
o7
@jimcrelm94783 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile this year Britain is short of natural gas for heating because we no longer stockpile it. "Cost efficiencies" and privatisation. Additional supplies have had to be bought in at great cost at the (relative) last minute.
@Aztesticals3 жыл бұрын
@@jimcrelm9478 Sometimes I wonder where the world would be if we hadn't had chernobyl. If we didn't get so scared of nuclear power and instead kept using it and by now maybe had 50-60% of our power for that. Wouldn't have as many energy shortages and we would have put more research into improving reactor efficiency and safety and maybe developed thorium reactors. We would be 20 years further behind on climate change and be able to do something about it.
@parluron3 жыл бұрын
My dad too!
@Olivia-W3 жыл бұрын
@@jimcrelm9478 Improperly applied "efficiency" sinks things so often... let's cut costs, definitely won't lead to a spectacular disaster in 30 years, no sir.
@Grattenj3 жыл бұрын
When something cannot be allowed to fail. Wow, it's chilling to think about just how important those barriers are.
@walterwhite49693 жыл бұрын
nuke the gates
@yuhyi01223 жыл бұрын
@@walterwhite4969 if the gate is nuked than the city would be obliterated, back to the statement, if thames barrier fell, there is much bigger problem going on
@TheEthanEdge3 жыл бұрын
@@walterwhite4969 ngl, if you could nuke just the gates I'd be impressed
@Manu-Official3 жыл бұрын
The UK has mostly demonstrated lately, that it cuts corners in every department, refuses to deal with the consequences of cutting corners, and then there the good old blaming someone else when something fails.
@TheEthanEdge3 жыл бұрын
@@Manu-Official that's not our fault though, it's probably Scotlands fault.
@bp46163 жыл бұрын
I get the feeling that the most common reasons for catastrophic failures often involve both systemic issues and human error. I'd be interested to more hear about the decision making elements as well as the engineering
@benmartin66443 жыл бұрын
Green B
@P_Nut84213 жыл бұрын
i actually giggled when i heard, "the plant has 3 backup generators. any of which could run the entire system." i am a HUGE stickler for efficiency and redundancy. this is a level of redundancy that makes me blush.
@Nerfbun3 жыл бұрын
I love how Tom always able to introduce something completely out of my world yet still make it fascinating to watch.
@Florkl3 жыл бұрын
“That would be career-limiting.” I love British humor
@TalesOfWar3 жыл бұрын
Understatement is our thing.
@StalwartShinobi3 жыл бұрын
tom scott is like having a science teacher as an adult but a thoroughly enjoyable one that isnt trying too hard
@darrenstrange93746 ай бұрын
Always informative, always a pleasure to watch.
@FlorianHofmann3 жыл бұрын
Tom: I would be grateful for suggestions, by now I covered all the obvious ones. Also Tom: Today I am going to cover this massive bit of infrastructure in the middle of London. :-)
@hullinstruments3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see an entire series diving in depth about this engineering feat!
@wiebemartens10303 жыл бұрын
Maybe Real Engineering can tackle that one
@embr42473 жыл бұрын
@@wiebemartens1030 Good idea.
@MrShikaga3 жыл бұрын
No point in diving really. The Thames is too dirty to see anything.
@bathwater31963 жыл бұрын
@@MrShikaga Funny how the Thames river is considered to be one of the most cleanest in the world, I guess the bar is set very low...
@Goady10003 жыл бұрын
@@bathwater3196 is it though? Always dirty when I've been to london
@WouterWeggelaar3 жыл бұрын
If you want an even bigger version of something like this: the Oosterscheldekering and Maeslantkering in the Netherlands are exactly that. Built in the same overkill way and keeping massive amounts of water out. I would imagine these teams talk to each other and share knowledge as well
@oopszie3 жыл бұрын
As opposed to the pump system in new orleans, which was built in the 1800s and runs on an ancient 25 hertz electrical system powered by six aging turbines, one of which broke in 2005 and was never repaired, another was decommissioned because replacement parts couldn't be manufactured any longer. In 2021 all of the remaining four failed before a hurricane, and everything was running on a backup of diesel motors with frequency converters and a backup 60 hz turbine jury-rigged to output 20% of it's power at 25 hz.
@bartbatenburg3 жыл бұрын
Dutch company helped to build this too (BAM group)
@someonespotatohmm95133 жыл бұрын
@@bartbatenburg Isn't there a simularly designed system somewhere in the Netherlands?
@bartbatenburg3 жыл бұрын
@@someonespotatohmm9513 Well, all systems are similar in some way, but I couldn't find one with rotating doors.
@knarf_inc47903 жыл бұрын
@@someonespotatohmm9513 there is a 'Stuw' in Hagestein, Driel and Amerongen that work on the same principle.
@whynotdean89663 жыл бұрын
"And if a meteorite came down and destroyed the barrier, a second, even stronger barrier, is set to rise out of the ocean automatically"
@moodlethenoodle5 ай бұрын
"And, in the rare case in which that does not work, a large superheating grid will proceed to evaporate the remaining river water."
@cholloway00463 жыл бұрын
My favorite piece of design ever. They didn't need to make it look good - but they did.
@cook_it3 жыл бұрын
"They didn't cut corners then" I felt that, a local bridge that was opened in 1900 was built so solid that it held 115 years, until 2016, way longer then planned, where it got replaced by a completely new bridge that was so "cut down" during planning that they used 500 tons less steel than needed, which obviously caused massive problems while building it. And I think no one expects that new "French designer bridge" to hold anywhwere near as long as the old one, even with repairs.
@Ranstone3 жыл бұрын
When did engineering go from "Efficiency and minimalism" to "Good enough, not my future problem"? :\
@Jaxck773 жыл бұрын
It’s the same reason we lost ships in the Falklands War. The destroyers had been so nickel & dimed they didn’t have defence systems that could actually deal with Exocets and low-flying fast attack aircraft at the same time.
@pleasant_asymmetry3 жыл бұрын
I heard that this was because in the past, engineering wasn't as precise as it is now, so everything was over-engineered to make sure it could hold, now, with more precision, they can build something to last exactly only 50 years
@jlust66603 жыл бұрын
@@Ranstone Not sure about the UK, but where I live around the seventies. The oil crisis completely changed our perspective on building more than needed.
@cook_it3 жыл бұрын
@@pleasant_asymmetry True, that's also a big part of that. I don't have the exact numbers but one positive side effect of that was that the bridge could hold more then double the weight it was originally planned & built for because they added such large amounts of error-margins, which came in very handy with newer trains/traffic.
@tulane143 жыл бұрын
Tom, we have the old river control structure over here in Louisiana. It is a relatively small barrier that keeps the Mississippi River from flowing into a new course which would severely disrupt River trade in the United States. It almost did fail in the 90s or 80s (I forgot off the top of my head.). So yes, props to proper British engineering and come to Louisiana if you want to learn more about the Old River control structure or the Bonnet Caree spillway.
@leofielding67863 жыл бұрын
Did it hold when Katrina hit? Or is it farther upriver?
@tulane143 жыл бұрын
@@leofielding6786 it is north of Baton Rouge on the Mississippi River so it is really not affected by hurricanes. The control structure is affected by spring floods.
@eritain3 жыл бұрын
Near failure 1973. It would be apocalyptic. 60% of US grain exports would stop. 4 of the country's top 15 ports would go dry. $600M of economic loss every day. Not to mention oil/gas pipelines across the Atchafalaya that would be torn out.
@TheManLab73 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the shout out for "proper British engineering." I'm very proud to be British as we created the modern world we live in. I love British engineering, as everything's over engineered 👍🏻 OVER engineering something is the best type of engineering. It's just a shame the rest of the doesn't see it that way 🤨
@Ascertivon2 жыл бұрын
That reveal shot from the drone at the beginning was spectacular. The quality of Tom's videos never fails to impress me.
@phyphor3 жыл бұрын
I used to live near the barrier (on the South of the river) and I remember going to an educational event at it that told us the history of the barrier, and how it worked. One of the truly great engineering marvels that just functions, keeping millions of people safe, and very few people know or care about it. Thanks for the video, Tom!
@AshrakAhmed3 жыл бұрын
It's London though, we tend to "care" less about the engineering marvel that makes our life easy everyday as long as its working fine. London sewage system, a marvel of Victorian era construction still chugging along (with some upgrade) compared few other newer system and we hardly care.
@mast37343 жыл бұрын
“They didn’t cut corners then, and that’s given us breathing room now” god I wish we got to hear that phrase more often
@benbauer34263 жыл бұрын
This is a really interesting concept of engineering I'd like to learn more of - over-engineering/creating large margins of error/redundancy to almost the point of paranoia. Are there some other similar examples to the Thames that you could take a look at/have taken a look at?
@dcarbs29793 жыл бұрын
Almost any modern aircraft. They look so complicated to the lay person not because there is a lot there (although there are a lot of systems!) but because all the systems have at least 2 (usually 3 redundancy backups). By law, most systems need copies running at a time (e.g. altimeter/ airspeed etc.), so having 4 copies mean 2 can fail, when the liklihood of even one failing is low. Humans can't fly modern aircraft on their own - no manual override for the entire aircraft! Some of the systems do have manual mode of course. So the electronics and backup system cannot fail. To do so means it falls out of the sky.
@theabristlebroom43783 жыл бұрын
@Ben Bauer yes! And also any space craft, or submarine.
@pingdragonify3 жыл бұрын
Nuclear power plants
@anarchangel73 жыл бұрын
Data Centers are built to different tier levels. A tier 3 data center is like this, alternate power sources batteries and gens, Everything is double+ redundant.
@anteeko3 жыл бұрын
"This is a really interesting concept of engineering I'd like to learn more of - over-engineering/creating large margins of error/redundancy to almost the point of paranoia." look like similar level of redundancy as used in aviation (3 to 4)
@LordKeram2 жыл бұрын
The engineers behind this should be applauded as national heroes. It's very easy to take shortcuts here and there to lower spending and time on such massive projects and make your plan look good. But those guys build in additional safety measures which as so good in fact that they nearly doubled the estimated life span of the barrier. Incredible foresight and planning.
@RyuuNoSenshi3 жыл бұрын
Nothing like a new Tom Scott video to start the week of right. That drone shot at 0:30 is great! (all the drone shots in this video are but this one especially)
@Zealch_3 жыл бұрын
Tom always explains topics we didn’t know existed.
@LightningSquad3 жыл бұрын
I uploaded my face reveal.
@stellviahohenheim3 жыл бұрын
Tom is practically showing us the best way to consume information
@elijahmckenzie92073 жыл бұрын
If you’re from the UK or especially London you know about the Thames barrier lmao it’s really famous
@pauld69673 жыл бұрын
I can definitely appreciate this video. There have been times where I have been mocked as the Old School Old Timer or Grandpa Worrywart for my insistence on redundancy and fail-safe thinking. However, there have been several instances where my stubbornness has ended up saving the day when that "one-chance-in-a-thousand" occurrence happened.
@jakual3393 жыл бұрын
Anytime you get mocked for that, I'd suggest bringing up the Windscale fire. The project lead, John Cockcroft, insisted on installing filters that were seen as unnecessary and wasteful... and when disaster struck, those filters trapped 95% of the radioactive dust, preventing a substantial part of the UK from becoming a nuclear wasteland. Worrywart building saves lives.
@pauld69673 жыл бұрын
@@jakual339 Ironically, I just now found a KZbin video on Windscale and marked it as a Watch Later. Serendipity :-)
@VestigialHead3 жыл бұрын
One chance in a thousand is an event that is almost certain to occur. One chance is a quadrillion events are occurring every second somewhere in the universe. So such a high chance as one in a thousand is a sure thing.
@pauld69673 жыл бұрын
@@VestigialHead Which i s why we should do as Monty Python taught us and always look on the bright side of life. :-)
@VestigialHead3 жыл бұрын
@@pauld6967 While I do enjoy Python and I agree that if you are feeling down then that is good advice - it is terrible advice for governments or those building infrastructure. They need to be the exact opposite and expect the worst and plan for it.
@ryanquinn12572 жыл бұрын
It’s cool how much electrical physics work for fluid dynamics. That reflective wave being akin to transmission wave impedance mismatch where a reflecting standing wave will generate for power not transferred properly to load
@graceygrumble3 жыл бұрын
Watched a 7 minute and 28 seconds video, from Tom Scott and spent the next two and a half hours trawling through information on The Thames Barrier; engineering of flood defences, worldwide -The Dutch are amazing! - and have enjoyed all 2 hours, 37 minutes and 28 seconds of it! Time for actual food, as opposed to food for thought. My tummy is rumbling.
@batya73 жыл бұрын
This is an incredible civil engineering work, an amazing part of London's infrastructure. Thanks, Tom, for taking us deep into its works. Thanks to the Environment Agency.
@haeltacforce3 жыл бұрын
Me, a Dutch person: *quickly googles the Thames Barrier* In the wikipedia listing stating whom it was built by: Hollandsche Beton Maatschappij "you're goddamn right"
@arkcliref3 жыл бұрын
I wish you do a same thing in our country. I just don't know what will be the public opinion because in Philippines, anything can be criticized for the littlest reason.
@breakfreak31813 жыл бұрын
Me, an English person: If you need proper flood protection speak to the Dutch! If you guys can't do it right, no one can!
@ce18343 жыл бұрын
not by themselves though as you read: Costain, Tarmac Construction, Cleveland Bridge & Engineering
@purplehz973 жыл бұрын
😆
@dopiaza20063 жыл бұрын
It you want flood protection, ask a country that is for a large part, lower than sea level!
@michaelkeaton53942 жыл бұрын
4:19 you can see what he is talking about on sailboat in dry dock around and on the propeller too, it's often two grey-ish piece of metal that are very corroded, for those interested...
@darren84533 жыл бұрын
I've done some "cannot be allowed to fail" engineering on the software side (a dead man's handle on a remote trading platform, FWIW). It's funny the things you get paranoid about in extreme situations. Things like DNS are suddenly suspect and out to get you; you never know if you'll need to reach out to a remote server at just the wrong moment. We used an automated deployment tool to hard-code a handful of IP addresses in each server's config.
@vasiovasio3 жыл бұрын
This is actually a very smart idea, to not trust the DNS uptime and instead use pure IPs!
@darren84533 жыл бұрын
@@vasiovasio it was a mapping in /etc/hosts, which meant for the handful of servers we needed this for we could statically allocate specific IP addresses and configure everything from Puppet. It worked really well, and all the questions around caching of DNS, time-to-live, etc, just disappeared.
@Jazzled3 жыл бұрын
The care that would need to go into the planning of this makes me envious. I wish I could get even a fraction of that in my day job as a business analyst.
@limbridk3 жыл бұрын
This is what happens when engineers get financial freedom to go overboard. We always want to overkill, but a part of "normal" engineering is to bring it home, as cheap as possible while still living up to all the needs. When the needs are "no matter what you design, it MAY not fail, here is a bottomless bag of money, go crazy!" then this is what you get. Love it.
@diestormlie3 жыл бұрын
@@limbridk For once, it's not 'Here is the budget, what can we get?' It's 'This is what we need. We'll get you what you need.'
@paulhaynes80453 жыл бұрын
As an ex- business analyst, I hear your pain!
@andrewsimpson15113 жыл бұрын
I remember being on HMS Ocean prior to the London Olympics in 2012. One of the Tugs made an error and we were barely inches from hitting the barrier. The only time I heard the brace command as we expected to hit the barrier.
@07wlsonj3 жыл бұрын
I love seeing these huge projects and all their redundancies. Very awesome stuff!
@freggo66043 жыл бұрын
Engineer: Designed so it can not fail. Murphy: busy scribbling notes on his to do list.
@changearoundthecorner3 жыл бұрын
Always nice to see such an incredible safety structure, great engineering for its time. Here in NL we've got loads of waterways that need protecting, some of them are like this, others also function as a motorway/highway bridge, they can be incredible to travel on. Any such dual purpose water blocking structures over in the UK? Would be nice to see!
@moritzrossbroich3 жыл бұрын
This is, as always with Tom's videos, surprisingly more interesting than what could be expected from such a topic
@JessmanChicken863 жыл бұрын
3:49 "If the Prime Minister was still in the House of Commons in his Wellingtons." - Top 10 most British quotes ever said
@peperoni_pepino3 жыл бұрын
I love both how similar and how different this is, compared to the Deltaworks (especially the Oosterscheldekering). They have mostly the same function, the same idea of redundancy, and were both build because of the Watersnoodramp (1953 North Sea flood), but they are completely different in design. The Oosterscheldekering features plates which are moved vertically down with hydraulic power, which has the advantage that they can be closed using only gravity when needed, and the hydraulics can not only pull but also push to dig the plates into the ground if they feel the plates need yet more power because of a coming superflood. Meanwhile this has rotating parts organised in a completely different way. I wonder which one is better, although that is of course an ambiguous question. I do know that more recent Dutch designs also using rotating parts, so that might give an indication, but it may also just depend on the width of whatever water you are closing.
@Taladar20033 жыл бұрын
I was certainly wondering about that during the video, why they didn't have a purely gravity based mechanism to close the gates in the event of a power failure.
@virtualcircuit3 жыл бұрын
I believe the main advantage of the rotating design is that it doesn't introduce a height restriction.
@peperoni_pepino3 жыл бұрын
@@virtualcircuit Ah right, since it rotates down it trades the height restriction for a (much less significant) depth restriction. That seems like good reason.
@morningdewrelaxation33033 жыл бұрын
That's probably the most hardcore redudancy in any system I've ever seen. Brilliant engineering!
@funkyalfonso3 жыл бұрын
What I most remember of January 1976 working on the Thames Barrier as a commercial diver for Shiers Diving Contracts was the fact that it was a working river with cranes, vessels and Thames Watermen on their boats.
@CED993 жыл бұрын
Wait you helped build it?
@grantdowling85503 жыл бұрын
Such a good video. Everything was so thoroughly explained and not a single unnecessary word wasted. Top tier information!
@BrilliantDesignOnline3 жыл бұрын
6:18 Great shot of a gate at low tide to see the U/W portion. Just an incredible number of considerations. Really fascinating since I did not even know this was a thing. I cannot believe how many interesting places/systems you find.
@rhejamphi3 жыл бұрын
I’m really thinking this concept could be made into a little playable strategy game. Outstanding video, as usual.
@jamescpalmer3 жыл бұрын
Rather good strategy gamers actually create layers of redundancy like this already incase stuff fails. Regardless of the game.
@baronclime64233 жыл бұрын
The Thames Barrier, and other flood control measure Mega Projects have always fascinated me. Tom, you are truly going places when a super major national thing like the Barrier are covered in your videos. I am super happy for your success in this and can't wait for more. On another note I am eagerly awaiting the next series of Citation Needed.
@jrgoriginal5693 жыл бұрын
This video just appeared randomly on my recommendations. I don't even know anything of engineering, still stayed for the whole video.
@jrgoriginal5693 жыл бұрын
Hell I'm not even British. I didn't know this existed.
@Mikeper943 жыл бұрын
One of your best quality videos yet I reckon, great job Tom. Also as others have said, Steve the engineering manager was fantastic and did a great job of explaining. Love it.
@rosianna3 жыл бұрын
Ahhhh I loved learning about the Thames Barrier in primary school and this has really reignited that!
@kingofracism3 жыл бұрын
Disgusting white supremacist. This was built with money stolen from British colonies like India and some African nations.
@martijn95683 жыл бұрын
@@kingofracism So how is your day?
@elijahmckenzie92073 жыл бұрын
Ellian S as a Brit. I’m happy we stole from and destroyed colonies because we wouldn’t be so rich over here! 😀
@Ztbmrc13 жыл бұрын
I have been in the documentation center of the Thames Barrier. And found out it was us, the Dutch who designed it. We have similar barriers here, like the Oosterschelde keering in the south west of our country. It was constructed in the 1980's and uses vertical gates.
@jumbo_t3 жыл бұрын
It's well known that if you want to control massive amounts of water, you get the Dutch to do it - they've been doing it for centuries longer than anyone else!
@Gecko....3 жыл бұрын
It was a British company who designed it, a Dutch company played a part in it's actual construction along with 2 British construction companies.
@ahassan41513 жыл бұрын
Goed bezig. The Dutch are the best at building dams, best in the world
@hi1dk3 жыл бұрын
makes sense! the dutch are experts at controlling weather 😅
@merijn54703 жыл бұрын
If a structure has anything to do with water, the dutch are most likely involved. We rock
@davidfuters71522 жыл бұрын
I was at Gloucester building college when they where building these , we had a day visiting the barriers to see how they where built . We where allowed inside one of them when they where bottoming it out with a 15tonne 360 , it looked like a toy in a cathedral. Amazing