Tonex Huge Update From IK Multimedia

[@2550marshall]

Kemper comes out with paid upgrades, Neural comes out with the Nano Cortex...meanwhile, IK multimedia says.....hold my beer!

[@1Guug]

Insanely great update, but I don’t get why they don’t let delays spill over that totally ruins Tonex for me for live usage

[@PaulLembo]

@@1Guug Yes, your audience is going to leave if delay doesn't spillover. I ask the band in advance to save time! "Do all your FX spillover? If not, I have to go." 😀

[@1Guug]

@@PaulLembo i don’t get that response dude. If it’s not a problem for you fine, for me it is, I use long trails and it ruins the moment when I have a solo where I play long delays and then switch to a different sound for the chorus again. Don’t you get that like at all ?

[@b1gnutt]

@@1Guug man you're really going to disappoint all 5 people at the show

[@1Guug]

@@b1gnutt you guys have issues for real, don’t project dude.

[@nethbt]

The absence of delay was the deal breaker to me when Tonex came out, now I'm definitely getting one

[@mohitrahaman]

Which one, the Tonex One? :D btw the best 180 bucks ever spent

[@DreidMusicalX]

You can use a delay pedal or any pedals (before and after) the TONEX, in the pedal chain. Then just come out the last output in your pedal chain and go to an amps return with an cabinet, or without and amp and cab, and go directly into a mixer or your interface. I use mine both ways and run directly to my Zoom L-20 Mixer.

[@Musecrafter]

You are the only Tuber who has shown how to do this on the pedal. Much appreciated!

[@ImDumbSry]

This is awesome, and I’m now buying this 100%

[@-Thunder]

I bought the little one and it’s been awesome so far.

[@JohnnyRaven69]

​@@-ThunderWhat's the difference for the bigger device??

[@-Thunder]

@@JohnnyRaven69 It's got a screen and more knobs so it's much easier to make adjustments on the device. You can switch out cabs on the big one without software, for instance. The big one has MIDI and additional outputs. Some people have hacked the little one so they can change patches using a footswitch but it's experimental. I got the little one just to test it out really. I think it sounds great.

[@johnjohnson-gu2ct]

I love hearing this from you, buddy! Yes, it's a game-changer. It sounds killer. Keep up the excellent work!

[@adammcgarry2270]

Your thumbnail screamed "Game changer." Clicked as fast as possible

[@Joshua-nf7mh]

Well Friedman JEL w/ MR Scary mod pack is definitely going on my Tonex Pedal. Sounds killer. Thank you !

[@TONEWARSgearshow]

Thank you!!!

[@JamesFlorio-ti8gc]

I recently just got tone x one... Late to the party. But after i tried the full tone x pedal i was blown away. In the loop of any power amp, HX loop, or any effect loop of any modeler tone x is absolutely crushing the competition. Way to go IK Media and thanks for the demo Jared

[@rinatdautbaev1065]

hi. u used tonex in real power amp and real cabinet? its sounds good?

[@JamesFlorio-ti8gc]

@@rinatdautbaev1065 so far best results were two katana artist in stereo. They have great speakers and multiple settings tube amps don't have. Best with a tube was marshall DSL 20 into mesa 2x12 in mono

[@checkitout611]

100% was not expecting them to put effects into this enclosure. This is great ! 👍

[@7riX7er]

I guess they go this way cause no one cares for amplitube 😂

[@veciroker]

If Kemper had gone with the $700 Player with full functionality, which they could have easily done since they already had that software, it would probably be the best selling guitar rig of all time, but they made a very poor choice and now I think the Tonex with the new effects will be one of the best selling guitar processors of all time!

[@steveareton697]

Ironically, re: the recent news of the Kemper player's controversial (and expensive!) paid updates, I've actually kind of been saving up for an expected ToneX-2 hardware pedal that would have built-in effects that I'd expect to be somewhere in the $500 range and a good value at that! Now, as a current ToneX user, everything extra I wanted I get to have for FREE(???!!) Holy crap! Kemper, Take notes....

[@hanovergreen4091]

Started playing in 1985. My rig now is a 2017 9" iPad running AUM and TONEX and a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2. My back does NOT hurt loading in so I can help the drummer :). Sounds great and will check out your captures. Best Regards and Best Wishes!

[@donniejean]

What’s AUM? Amplitude?

[@waynespradley6972]

Tonex is definitely going in the right direction. Lack of spillover from preset to preset is an issue for my live use.

[@TONEWARSgearshow]

@@waynespradley6972 thanks for commenting. I told my contacts there the same thing. I suggested that they try to remedy that issue. It might be a DSP issue though. We'll see what happens. They got back with me and said they have passed that information to the appropriate people. I don't think it's a deal-breaker but it would be nice if they took care of that. All that said, I think they did a great job with this update and I think this is going to be a huge thing for a lot of people.

[@jeffhirshberg5171]

Very excited for the update. While at times I curse the at times non-user-friendly nature of IK products, once you get the hang of it, they work wonderfully. Great content, as always, Jarrod. Oh, and I just picked up the JEL Mr Scary pack. Can't wait to dive into it.

[@VanjaSpirin]

Kemper is history

[@8KilgoreTrout4]

Been waiting for your video on this

[@MatthiasBuesing]

Very informative video. And a stunning demo track at the end with a awesome high gain capture pack- well done! Unfortunately there's still this issue with the FPS rate we talked about a few weeks ago. Other than that great and thanks for your efforts! 🤘🏻

[@Jeremynew98]

Really is a smart move, and great for us. I really liked the Badlander Mr. scary Mod tonex captures you did. Ive been wanting to buy for a while now, and I have to say Im glad I did. I purchased the Mesa pack a while back, and your captures are on par with the best of their lot. Seriously impressed man. Ill be buying more from you in the near future. I haven't got a chance to install the boost captures, but Im really looking forward to checking them out too. Glad to see you are a IK content partner. Its well deserved. Your ear is keen. Thank you 🙏

[@TONEWARSgearshow]

Wow! Thank you so much for the kind words. I really appreciate that very much I'm so glad you're enjoying the capture packs. That really means a lot

[@Jeremynew98]

@@TONEWARSgearshow You're welcome. Your production is always on point. I knew you would have some seriously mean sounding captures

[@donniejean]

I think @tonewarsgearshow was the way I learned about the badlander Mr. Scary. But they were backlogged when I called them but told me our local shop (motor city guitar) was getting some in, so I placed my order :) now gotta get the capture for when my white Tonex comes in!

[@Jeremynew98]

@@donniejean Kyle Bull did a good review of it too. Definitely a great capture pack for Tonex. You won't be disappointed

[@benburnett8109]

So happy for you. You've ground out a spot on YT and crushed it. Finally, we have a dude we can trust. Thanks for being you. Once you go to a "stick burner offset smoker" instead of a "digital pellet smoker" your authenticity will no longer be denied by the BBQ community. Your journey will be complete. Oh yeah, get a dog. Cat owners are weird. It's ok to have a cat and a dog but just a cat is weird.

[@TONEWARSgearshow]

@@benburnett8109 haha I'm actually making smoked chili on my pellet smoker tonight

[@samuelrussel6296]

I'm for sure grabbing this and possibly a nano cortex as well! Hands down I'm purchasing amp/cab captures from you. You always capture these amps with such realistic fidelity and fullness!!!!

[@jtu2434]

Bro, pick one or the other, you don't need both. Also modeling is better than profiling.

[@steveareton697]

@@jtu2434 Agreed on having them both seeming a bit silly (unless money isn't a thing at all). Not sure about the modeling > profile thing. To my ears, I've heard some crazy awesome metal tones from every major platform, modeling and profile/capture both, with neither being a clear winner at all...i.e. the jury is still out, imho at least.

[@samuelrussel6296]

@@jtu2434 both modeling and capturing have their strong points. I don’t really find one better than the other and I have a whole lot of experience. I’ve owned almost all these damn units at one point with the exception of the newest ones. Depending on the mood that I’m in, I will pick up or play on a particular piece of gear doesn’t matter whether I own both of them or several of them. So whether I need both of them or not, if I want both of them and I can afford them, I’ll be the one making that damn decision.🤣🤦🏻‍♂️

[@donniejean]

I preordered the white version. Love channel 2! Can’t wait to purchase!

[@helpik1]

Not bad, i been waiting for a genome player hihi, with nam captures absolute top multifx.

[@darrenwest1969]

Awesome. We have the exact same wireless.

[@davidjoel111]

12:47 they could also solve this if they allow editing of the pedal from the software, that should be their next update.

[@victorfdias]

Totally

[@DreidMusicalX]

Cool! I just woke up and seen this, now I have to go update! After I watch your video though. I just hope they made it so I can now adjust the volume level of a patch on the fly and save it.

[@tommanseau6277]

Thanks for the video! I'm now even more stoked for my full sized Tonex coming this week! Snagged on Prime Day. I'm really hoping I like this unit. I picked up a Helix LT, but not sure I'm getting along with it. Which leads me to the best way to monitor these units and prevent that digital top end fizz and over bass production. I'd appreciate real world feedback. Currently got a Headrush FRFR 108 (someone needs to tell them what flat response really means), and a 2x12 cab w/ V30's but no power amp right now.

[@TONEWARSgearshow]

Thanks for commenting. Congratulations on the ToneX! Try studio monitors, you'll like them better than any FRFR.

[@mayhem4830]

When does this update go live?

[@TONEWARSgearshow]

I believe it goes live in November sometime. They're just putting the finishing touches on it right now. I'm going live with my presets tonight at 7:00

[@steveareton697]

@@TONEWARSgearshow On your show tonight, and only if it's pretty easy and convenient for you, I'd love to hear a side-to-side comparison of the scary modded JEL vs Badlander. I think I want to buy one but hard to decide which one - Thanks much if that's doable!

[@Stringprodigy]

what’s the deal with the sleeveless shirts?

[@Necca_UK]

buying this now definitely. Thanks for demonstration.

[@FuzzWoof]

Regardless of anything, with this update the One becomes the ultimate complete pocket backup rig. Even if editing the parameters directly on the tiny pedal is limited or impossible, it's at least a usable preset top quality wet/dry duo of tones to get you through the rest of a gig right there that you can carry in the pocket of a gig bag.

[@ValiRossi]

Both pedals are a killer deal. I wish the Tonex One could do reverb and delay. Might get the big pedal. This update with the effects changes my mind about them.

[@andrewhively5191]

Tonex One will also have the delay and modulation. It will be available for both units.

[@tonepilot]

Very cool.

[@zakklee2556]

Do you have a capture of the JEL Mr. Scary with the mudd killer ? I use MIDI so the boost would have be baked-in. Are you interested in the stainless steel Ernie Ball strings ?

[@KaddysJamKave]

So now the tonex has modulation effects... Can you alter the signal chain to emulate modulations to sound like it would in an fxloop on a real amp? Or are they in front of the signal? I don't have a tonex so I have no clue

[@Sofika63]

nice video, thanks. Is it possible to control TAP delay parameter directly on the pedal ?

[@TONEWARSgearshow]

@@Sofika63 you adjust that with the BPM setting

[@javieroldan]

Can the beta version be donwloaded before release?

[@Arcanoize3]

Hi, can I use just the effects without the amp/cab sim and go straight into my amp?

[@Im-mq5th]

Why you guys can update the frame ware but i can’t ?

[@jasonnicely]

Just bought this pedal yesterday. I purchased your 2 brutal packs a few hours ago.......omg.. running it through my effects return on my peavey 3120 into a mesa 4x12...freaking brutal! I'm new to this digital stuff. It's ended my never ending amp search lol. Thanks again! It's so insanely brutal. Your stuff is so well done,man.

[@TONEWARSgearshow]

Wow ,thank you!! I'm so glad you're enjoying the captures. Totally made my day. Cheers!

[@jasonnicely]

I hate to keep harping on it but good lord! I've got to make sure my gun permit is up to date because the Rev capture has turned my guitars into freaking weapons... I can't stop smiling.

[@nashmanzl]

Since I got mine at Xmas, I've been saying that it's basically a multi-effect that doesn't delay or modulate. And BOY you're not wrong when you say we didn't see this coming. It's a truly self contained rig that models any amp, fuzz, OD, or distortion. Just add power amp! So does it save the entire patch with the effects you dialed in, like most multi-effects do?

[@juanwaissman1]

Is there a Tuner in the big pedal???

[@DrumBuster16]

Yes!

[@RECTIFIER101]

I was about to buy the boss SDE 3 for the stereo option, but that delay sounds fckin amazing

[@michaelpeacestewart]

Digging the capture with mr scary I play guitar in a dokken tribute called into the fire in Florida going to get your captures to use live cheers

[@NO-TALK-GuitarPlugin]

ToneX is crazy good! Would love color options for the ToneX one, I have 3 of them, would be more practical

[@DreidMusicalX]

I seen a white version they came out with.

[@JohnWiku]

​@@DreidMusicalX Also there's the Thomman 70th anniversary, silver edition

[@JHPRS]

I bought the anniversary version of the Tonex pedal the day it came out. Have they told you when the official update will drop? :)

[@tonepilot]

Sometime in November

[@jasonnicely]

How do these compare to your tube amps? As far as feel and brutality? Decapitated has a song called Spheres of Madness. 51 seconds in this grind tone starts and occurs throughout the song. I'm going insane trying to find a way to get that tone lol. Awesome info and playing as usual.

[@TONEWARSgearshow]

@@jasonnicely thank you for the kind words. I really appreciate it. To your question, I think the tones you get from this pedal are super legit. Very very close to the original AMP that you're capturing.

[@gravelrocks5588]

That is awesome.I might have to pick up the white tone x... Besides that what milliseconds are your delay set on and your reverb it sounds perfect

[@yigitatli]

Can somebody please explain to me why I don't have the delay and modulation buttons at the top ribbon on my ToneX Max? I'm using the MacOS app. Thanks.

[@TONEWARSgearshow]

The update has not been officially released yet. It'll be in November

[@7yle]

Why don't you do 2 captures, one with overdrive pedal, one without. That way you can just switch between presets instead of using the extra tonex one pedal. Or do you think that wouldn't sound the same?

[@RECTIFIER101]

Didn't realize it was stereo delay, I'm assuming u have to use both outputs into other pedals with dual inputs to get stereo?... The EVH chorus i use after the tonex is mono input with stereo outs 😢, that's why i like the EVH, it's more of a still chorus than swirl wash type

[@brunorodriguezb.957]

Tonex needs to give you the opportunity to have real stereo output. I mean that they allow you to go out in one with IR and go out with the other dry.

[@joanesinu]

I checked the IK product manager and downloaded the latest tonex, still don't see the update with effects. The app says the last firmware is 1.7.5(App) and 1.3.3(Pedal). Which version has the effects?

[@TB_Space]

From Ik multimedia site: "The software and firmware updates will ship in November 2024."

[@paulb.8653]

i can't stand that you did not hit that freaking drop down menu on the delays and reverbs.....

[@vomito72]

it's insane you are right , IK's pedals are killers at the moment now I would say for a live situation I would use a pedalboard for effects controlling tonex by midi in the effect loop as the amp but anyway it's cheaper and killer compared to expensive devices and the onboard effects are really good. For people playing gigs with only their one amp sound without any pedal or just one or two I guess a single tonex One will make the job ...and it fits in a poket.

[@BrunodeSouzaLino]

While the update won't affect Kemper that much, it certainly will affect NeuralDSP, because now their product does everything the NanoCortex does and it costs less. Some people might mention the capture aspect but personally I don't think that should even be a feature at this price point. Have you seen how long it takes for the NanoCortex to do a single capture?

[@gwynbleiddroach2589]

The length of time for the captures probably isn't what deters people, it's the fact most people don't have a lot of expensive amps or rare amps to capture. Most people are going to play captures made by others.

[@BrunodeSouzaLino]

@@gwynbleiddroach2589 Pretty much. I was on the "deep dive" video premiere of the NanoCortex the capture aspect was mentioned quite a bit as a good feature. IMO, that shouldn't even be a relevant feature or a feature at all at this price point. And with this new TONEX update, it further pushes this point.

[@yamilcamacho5698]

Im sold

[@mikec8815]

Not frustrated with the Kemper thing... I am frustrated Tone Wars does not have the JEL 20 for Kemper. Come on Jarrod!

[@An2oine]

It needs a Bluetooth module for the USB C.

[@dmitriopekine5402]

Well, it was predictable actually. With this update IK can compete with nanocortex

[@sbrave2]

Kemper and Neural will have these same effects soon enough, as well. TBH, I heard the TONEX amp library a few months ago and honestly didn't like any of them. The Marshall and Mesa amps sounded nothing like the ones I've played and owned (even after tweaking paramaters)

[@MaximusWhyman]

There are lots of crappy captures for sure. Another problem could be the input gain on the plugin is way too low. Try cranking it up full and everything starts sounding better.

[@odyssey6684]

Chorus and delay are great, however, NEVER chorus with distortion or amp drive. It sounds unnatural and washed out. Only on pristine clean tones. Yuck!!

[@juliasmithoficial]

hahaha "oh oh, Kemper player' 😅

[@j.l.l.]

no clean sounds so...

[@Thrive-Off-Grid]

Im good Id rather the FX be on a sepperate platform. This is only making something that is already complicated and hardly usable to an even more complicated and even less usable device. They need to clean up the software and make it simple to use. You know like all the other modelers have? I see a Nano Cortex in my future this update I dont think, is going to cut it for me. If I can not grab and amp, model it and experiment with it in the software through my device and then through my gear in five minutes time its crap. Ive spent hours with Tone X software and after you grab a few amps and cant get what you are looking for its too overwhelming to ,keep looking.

[@kennethhoneycutt4513]

The problem I see with this you have to have a capture box lf you want to capture your own apps or you have to purchase other people's captures I think either way they.get you I think more people need to be aware of this before they make the purchase you notice he sure plugging his the headrush only takes a couple of mins to capture I have the Core a thecost is alittle more but it beats the Kemper line6 is In my opinion just terrible I think the head rush is the easiest to use everything out of all of them to make

[@Amiga1200_Juicer]

sounds like fake amp :D

[@adilsonobelard9690]

OLD NEWS

[@markinthemix6055]

Congratulations Tone X players. Kemper gave FREE updates for 10+ years just saying.

[@hulkkrogan420]

Not anymore...