Toney Freeman Interview: Pro Judging Is "Bullshit" | Iron Cinema

[@DEVANC4VETTE]

I love this guy!!!!! Never followed him before but after this interview I'm sure we need more guys like him in the IFBB. He told the truth, he never stuttered, he wasn't scripted, he wasn't trying to protect a sponsor, and he didn't sound stupid. Everything he said sounded intelligent.

[@balwindergill1]

Imagine if they arrested Kai In Sweden and asked him same questions ...... They would be there for weeeeks!!!!!!!!!

[@SKH9]

excellent interview some of the top guys in the sport can't even talk properly. I salute this guy, his vision of bodybuilding is very much what bodybuilding should be.

[@slipknoterman]

+Shoaib Khan kai greene is the man for you

[@SKH9]

slipknoterman​ yh I follow him as well since the generation iron trailer. Humble guy had an excellent physic just got a bubble gut now.

[@slipknoterman]

Yeap, I was basically refering to the fact that hes really sophisticated and refrains from the meathead bodybuilder stereotype.

[@SKH9]

slipknoterman very true : )

[@metalheadmetalhead307]

i agree. he's a very well spoken guy who gives very strong arguments about the joke of judging today...

[@nickiacono8596]

we need more honesty in bodybuilding these interviews are amazing vlad, keep them coming

[@ugot1life803]

Great interview with the XMan Tony F. gotta love and respect the guy for speaking the truth! Guys is a beast!

[@nagone11]

Totally kick ass interview.

[@terrybradley44]

I've competed with Toney when he was a nationally ranked bodybuilder. He gave a great interview and I agree with everything he said.

[@Tomn8er]

9:38 tells a cop to his face he "acting like a bitch right now" lmao what a boss that's some Samuel L Jackson gangster type shit. Tony Freeman you won yourself a fan today

[@AlexioGessaARTBYLEX]

Hey that's me at 2:29 !!! Thanks for featuring me in your video! I met you guys at Kai Greene's Believe Seminar at SVA. I'll be competing again in the NPC this winter. Be well!

[@da3fit845]

Great interview every time I seen him in person he's always in shape and he's right old school body builders never got out of shape👊🏻💪🏻

[@RonDaSantis]

“I get treated with love and respect everywhere I go because I’m a loving and respectful individual.” - Tony Freeman

[@diegojaviersalinas]

he has things clear and is not afraid to talk the shit! totally agree x-man

[@sugarsugar475]

Fan of Toney Freeman for almost 20 years. Thank you for your direct no bs view on the notoriously unorganized sport. Hope this brings to light these issues with inconsistent poses at the shows.

[@gwmcklintock]

"That's not bodybuilding, that's a freak show" Perfect analogy!!!

[@sgfitness1030]

He brings up good points about the posing

[@IskurBlast]

Watch Mike Katz in pumping iron. Listen to him talk about how he should win because he is big. Look at how god awful his aesthetics were and how he did not care. Waller was absolutely correct about how bad Katz aesthetics were. Now understand that Katz became one of the most influential IFBB judges and you will understand what happened to judging.

[@doza7979]

Interesting point. 🤔

[@siqpuppie]

Hes right. I'm an average gym-rat from California and I wouldn't trade physiques with any of the Olympia guys. The standards in the sport need to change, badly.

[@willmolinar]

He's right. Bodybuilding as a competitive sport is an inconsistent mess. Shows don't start on time, no one in the audience (or back stage) knows what's going on and what's happening during the show. No one knows what the judging is all about, what standards apply, what the expectations are, where to stand, etc.

[@adrikkrakhim1]

Best interview of a bodybuilder like.... ever! This man deserves to be heard in the sport.

[@bobjenkins4925]

Muscle profiling in Sweden... No surprises there from a country which finds masculinity unsettling and frightening.

[@oawefajweee]

+Bob Jenkins amen

[@adrikkrakhim1]

+Bob Jenkins Coming from Sweden I want to come up with a good reply to deny that comment......... I got nuthi'n... Oo Crap!!! You might have a point. XD

[@BatFan123]

+Bob Jenkins Masculinity has nothing to do with muscles or having a muscular physique by itself, there's a lot more that needs to come into play to achieve real "masculinity". Maybe Sweden is the only country in the world that's doing "the right thing". Ever thought about that ?? Using Anabolic Steroids or substances is wrong !!! And only to be used for medical emergencies like heavily burned or wounded soldiers and civilians and in some rare cases of diseases that won't allow mature muscle growth. Anabolics are not to be messed with for sports or body-building. Competitions and meetings should be participated natural in for everyone. Unfortunately we have come to the point that nowadays in society kids use if for fun to attain a good physique at the gym. Nice. Way to go ..... And what is or does a real man or "masculinity" look like to you ? I believe and think it's a castrated donkey. What's your opinion ?

[@bobjenkins4925]

Electric Blue No offense but the amount of stupid comments you've made in this single post is many. The association of muscle mass with a certain view of masculinity is exactly why Sweden has a problem with it. Sweden is doing many right and wrong things, just like many countries. Others anabolic steroid use is none of your business and it's laughable that you think you deserve the right to have an influence on telling others what they're allowed to take. Competitions should be whatever the federation which hosts the competition decide, and all who dislike it can start their own federation. What masculinity looks like to me is irrelevant. It's others perceptions of muscle mass and masculinity which have demonised muscular men in Sweden, not my own perception.

[@BatFan123]

Bob Jenkins No offense taken, I can't always write stuff that's full of wisdom and correct 100% but the way we're heading now little children are going to start juicing form an early age and they'll mess their body's up because they will want more and more. As a matter of fact it is my business if another person puts anabolic steroids in his body to the point he'll die of it and young men and children are getting a total wrong perception and view of what a manly body should look like but they will never be able to keep up with what You Tube is showing them and they will get sick and die out of it eventually. The use of Anabolic Steroids is not the way to go or to be condoled. I could agree on using just a little dosage for guys that are in their 30's or 40's and beyond if their testosterone levels are low, so they would feel better out of it, but I'm mainly talking about the mental aspect you get out of it here. And also make no mistake bro, I am for the legalization of ALL drugs,believe it or not, so I know where you are coming from.

[@mikefloyd1241]

Well one thing is for sure. He is right about a lot of what he says. You can also apply it to a lot of other things in this world....

[@jaco1318]

he makes perfect sense!!!

[@yhideit4427]

Got soooooo much respect for this Man and the truth he is kicking here...esp. the point about Bodybuilders of his era NOT being out of shape (gaining 40 pounds off season).

[@scottbivens3101]

finally a man that speaks his mind /rare AF

[@jaco1318]

great interview!

[@nicholasreese7856]

I love the honesty and I agree with everything he said

[@tazanderson9352]

Awesome interview so honest and humble

[@voltaspeeder17]

Really smart guy and phenomenal bodybuilder. Respect

[@Someonebutnoone10]

great interview

[@joshuameacham8303]

Favoritism is real in this sport. It holds the sport back

[@gymtuppernation4703]

First I wanna say that I like and respect Toney Freeman! I have attended 2 of his seminars and I have no doubt he is a very honest, intellectual and articulate man! After watching this I’m not clear really on what he wants from the judging. The points he raises - while valid don’t seem major issues to me. So perhaps they need a line on the stage, it’s not a big problem. Tell them to hit the same pose at the same tine - not a big deal...When he said he asked someone what the we’re aiming to look like at the Arnold and they said they want to be shredded - what’s wrong with that!? Bodybuilding is judged off size, symmetry, definition. Not rocket science. I mean this with the greatest respect to TF . I think he needs to be clear in his head what he would like to see before speaking up .

[@georgemiller376]

TONY IS RIGHT ON!!..AMAZING DEDICATION AND INSIGHT!!

[@iktomi5]

brilliant interview great content & refreshing to hear a pro bodybuilder talk about the nonsense we call judging in the sport i love & have followed since ma teens. 👍🏿💯💥

[@jc30005]

I've always seen toney placing higher then he has. Shame really

[@tazanderson9352]

Agreed it's a disgrace

[@johnkoch9447]

I really like this guy, he's a genuine personality. He's bitter a bit, maybe rightfully so... But I'm glad he keeps it real.

[@healthylife6120]

so true about people bumping each other very unprofessional good interview thanks

[@willienailher1651]

Lmao @9:37 " you need to get your testosterone checked, cuz you acting like a bitch right now"

[@rebelnaylor8505]

That's a brilliant post by Tony freeman. . . Brilliant!

[@sydneysteele5018]

It's true. Tony was the guest poser at my NPC show earlier this year and he was still in relatively good shape.

[@Rockybodybuilding]

Toney you are the Man!!

[@eaglethree1]

Well said Tony at the 6:14 mark...."Thats not bodybuilding, thats a freak show" basically a circus.

[@skopex18]

Sweden needs to sort it's laws out coz that is pathetic

[@mattdavidson9970]

hey man i love your straight talk, real shit. thanks

[@nickiacono8596]

i fuckin love the generation iron channel such quality content

[@hughjarms4510]

so true about mandatory poses, individual posing routines are different, you should do your own interpretation. but during the mandatory poses you should have to do the same thing as everybody else ,none of this hiding your flaws shit that's for the posedown .for instance a bodybuilder with a flat chest will often twist his upper body and shoulder forward so he does not look flat from the side ect. Tony Freeman is right, mandatory poses should be just that, mandatory and consistent .

[@kevinkidd7211]

Good interview

[@chuckz28]

2:26 titeeez on the dailyyyyyy

[@SKH9]

😂😂😂😂

[@larrybibbs2356]

I was about to say the same shit lmao I stopped and went back 4 times to look at them shitz lol and he flexing his ass off too lol

[@Brofbrofs]

+chuckz28 hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh lmao

[@JonathanRushTexasFootball]

+chuckz28 what's so stupid is that he's still a little ass'd dude and has gyno... where da caber at son???

[@tazanderson9352]

One of the worst cases of gyno I've seen in a long time and the dude ain't even big lol

[@joelg9700]

Awesome interview

[@joshuasarn007]

Now this is real talk !

[@temu_keepitrealreal1016]

what a super amazing man tonyy ! he naileddd its all so easilyyy all the loopholes and BS in bodybuilding!!!

[@CliffHuxtableSweater]

it is a lil fishy he never placed above 5th though

[@julianterrell22]

I'll never go to Sweden then

[@tarheelred]

❤️👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾❤️ *_More of Mr. Tony F. please?!!! That’s one black man 👨🏾 who doesn’t play!!!!_*

[@JulesLife]

Seriously. I want to see Vlad take 3 scoops.

[@VeeTaperTemplar]

Gymtertainment IKR he’s got the money and connections get big already

[@peitto9]

you're the truth man!!!!!

[@bigjmac08]

This story in Sweden was hilarious lol

[@scottbivens3101]

damn good point on the mandatory poses

[@Chopin1995]

Look at Vince Taylor!!!!! How is it possible???? 60 years old!!!! Unbelieveable

[@t-mand8318]

agreed tony i think if ur stomach sticks out over a certian point you should be dq from the comp

[@phanikishan760]

I always wondered why Tony Freeman doesn't place higher!

[@vikingfitness4255]

legend!

[@burbingberries6917]

I never understood bodybuilding judging anyway. People will be like he's holding to much water, or he has better seperation and I could never tell what they meant

[@Iammany100]

I suppose part of the reason may be that everyone's muscle and body structure are slightly different..

[@CliffHuxtableSweater]

man, Tony isn't one of my personal top 5 favs but the year Dexter Jackson won olympia Freeman looked craaaazy! was an absolute monster... i dont get it.

[@donaldmokgale3123]

hahahahahahaha love this interview!! Much respect Tony X-MAN! I always liked you man, i like you more now!

[@jep91975]

Haha hahahah stared to look around for Austin Kutcher 😂😂😂

[@joekeenan6435]

I never thought I'd say this, but the decline/death of Joe Weider brought all this about. When Joe's vision dominated there was a clearly understood standard to conform to. That standard was generally Apollonian in vision, small waist, broad shoulders, etc... Now we have guys winning major shows that look like trolls. Oh, great interview by the way!

[@PatrickHocking]

Even though Tony did personally disapoint me when I was very young, I have to side with him on certain things mentioned here. Judging has been lead to celebrity or qaulity favortism. A lot of people don't get looked at when judges already like certain athletes and totally agree with Tony that judging is not done correctly either. Judging is done way too quickly before poses are even hit. Competitions are now so oversatuarated with classes and athletes that rounds get throwen out. Mandatory poses do exist though. rules have changed a lot since 2015. I hope this changes when it starts as an olympic discipline. Saying that Rich, CT or youtubers in general is not bodybuilding is just a Markus Rühl similar sign of jealously. They are the people bringing in a bigger audience and should be praised for doing so. Everything everyone does in the industry contributes to bodybuilding.

[@neub4321]

The basic problem with judging is the way Jim Manion learned the business as his personal turf, instead of being a sport that needs clear and safe standards for the athletes. The IFBB and NPC need to WORDSMITH new rules, not use the current wording to weasel their way out of controversial decisions.

[@Imhotep_DrummerJones]

Mr freeman you need to come with us... Xman: uh where we goin?🤔 😂😂😂

[@christinerutherford6413]

Exactly! Agreed!! 👍 💪 ✔

[@Roadking_714]

You Damn right!

[@kenc12]

He is correct there are no standards

[@christinerutherford6413]

Yes!

[@ChrisHaydenPhoto]

2:37 hey Valesca :)

[@cleonpierre7969]

TONEY IS DA TRUTH! REALIST!! That's why he ma nigga 🙌🏾✊🏾👊🏾🤘🏾🙅🏾 😅

[@akajiblubb2401]

this guy has one awesome physique 4:17

[@matthewtonna1]

I gotta pee anyway where’s the cup? Looooooooooooool 😂😂😂

[@Imhotep_DrummerJones]

The X-man!!! 💯💯💯

[@joshwasriracha423]

Good fucking interview

[@KOBD613BODYBUILDING]

i'm a bodybuilder. I bodybuild 365 days a year. True

[@strengthhealthgym5525]

.. Toney Freeman. The perennial winner of most complainingest bodybuilder for as long as I can remember. When is he not complaining about his placings it's about judging standards. In his world, pro bodybuilding should have been regulated so that he beats everybody. That is the only thing that would satisfy him

[@techtrektrick3509]

Tony to weirdo Swedish cop "How old are you? Swedish cop replies 47. Tony "Get your testosterone checked cuz ur acting like a bitch!" HAHAHA ! Tony is just a down to earth cool cat! Always had a high opinion of him

[@nathanmonaco7489]

I reckon Mike Katz could never get it through his head as to why smaller guys like Ken Waller always kicked his ass by being in proportion. Mike Katz was big but never proportioned. Funny that Katz has been judging for decades and bigger, non proportioned competitors started winning and the whole industry changed.

[@lukeism2]

Nathan & March he's a judge!?, Jesus Christ

[@stevenlightfoot6413]

The guy is awesome; but too vocal they don't like that. He will not win another show for that reason only. Keep up the good work Toney the fans LOVE you bro!

[@JackThoren]

Sweden has a very strict no AAS policy. If u are to muscular u can be stopped in the street and forced to do a drugtest. I have never sen that happend though. So perhaps its just a rumor. =)

[@marcelgardner8497]

Around the 4 minute mark when he's talking about what bodybuilding is and how he does it that to me is the truth. Dudes blowing up to 300 plus pounds is really out of whack to me

[@vipinnv3218]

True

[@SebastianGarciaChannel]

there cannot be a standard in bodybuilding because it would be completely unfair considering genetic structure and muscle insertion. Its just the way it is.

[@saif1002]

Do you think a 4 foot man can win MR 0

[@Tomn8er]

it already is like that

[@RicardoMartinez-xl9np]

2:27 horrible gyno and terrible pose.

[@justanaverageperson544]

That nigga look horrible how did he get on stage?

[@benfoster4271]

If the IFBB had any sense which it doesn't it would put people like Tony Shawn and Kevin in charge of how a bodybuilding show should be judged and the sport would benefit greatly. They won't because a chosen few are making alot of money 💵 off the backs of confused athletes and fans.

[@cashfaithbiz]

amen

[@jakegusman6631]

no pro bodybuilders coming out sweden anytime soon i think

[@jjramos46]

truth!

[@andriusa8892]

true

[@gustavovasquez9150]

that's why kai left but this guy has more balls

[@Neurodiperfluouspolarific]

"You need to go-get your testosterone checked - cause you acting like a b**** right now" - LOL

[@lukeskywalker1574]

LOL. I was thinking about going to Sweden for a city break, now I have second thoughts in case some dickweed cop pulls me in because of my size.

[@jakewoods9664]

Tony smokes a bit of weed lol how cool

[@AirundEr]

Pro Bodybuilding is a joke. I feel bad for the athletes. Toney is so right