Tongue & Groove Router Bits & Shaker Style Cabinet Doors

[@vociferonheraldofthewinter2284]

As a wife, the wife's laugh had me rolling! lol Thank you so much for this video. There was more to know than I knew. I would've been messed up had I bought the set without these instructions and tips.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Awesome! Glad I could help. 🙂

[@ctvwrest]

I love how woodworkers on KZbin almost always give credit to the ones they get ideas/tips from and not claim they thought of it themselves. Such a great community 👌🏼

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

You're right, it definitely is! 😄

[@DataJanitor]

Here it is, years after I first watched your video. I have based many projects on the tongue and groove techniques you show. Your video still serves as a refresher before I start any of these projects. Thank you, again.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks - glad I could help!

[@scott9488]

Dan like what everyone else is saying: Another GREAT video. I like that you show your mistake, no one is perfect. Some KZbinr make it look like they never make a mistake. I haven't done a project that I haven't made a mistake. Even typing this I had to go back and fix a few things.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks, Scott, and I'm just like you. I actually just made a blog post about some thoughts on the issue, at least for me. thenewbiewoodworker.com/2019/03/12/woodworking-and-add.html

[@shashiekka7917]

I'm used to larger, corded routers kzbin.infoUgkxfQ5_mgwq6PcudJvAH25t-I4D-3cTPz4z so this was a different experience for me. Basically, this is an incredibly sweet machine, fits well in the hand, etc. It has slightly less power than I'm used to, but that's understandable. Maneuvering freehand takes some practice. These days, it's especially nice to be able to avoid power cords. This is above the level of a hobbyist but below a pro level.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Awesome! 🙂

[@maryloutyler4766]

What a wonderful teacher! I feel more empowered by your explanations than any other video I've watched. Thank you for producing these inspiring videos.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks - I appreciate it!

[@HawkTron]

wonderfully explained and filmed! (loved hearing your wife's laughter in the background)

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! That's very nice. 😄

[@c9dan-dan216]

Hands down the best video on this bit set, and I’ve watched over 30 of them! Thank you for making this quality content sir!

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! That means a lot! 🙂

[@k.b.woodworker3250]

I've got the Shaker doors glued, sanded, rounded over. The tape trick worked great. I'm using a variation to make sure I drill the Euro hinge holes on the back and either right or left side of the door. Also, the door pulls have a different color tape and are on the front.. I'm making fourteen doors, upper and lower cabinets and this trick comes in handy not to get turned around.. Just wanted to thank you again for the helpful video. I hope to be putting the finish on in a couple of days.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

That's awesome! Thanks for letting me know I helped. 😄

[@geirfyen9900]

Thanks again for a great learning video. I like your style of teaching. Most of other videos on KZbin happens in a huge professional workshop, with big expensive machines and they show you and explain it in a perfect way, but hardly ever do they show any mistakes or something getting ruined. There’s a lot to learn from watching others making or explaining mistakes. And I’ll bet a lot of us newbies only have a small shop with a few tools and machines. Mine is so small, I have to stay outdoors to do certain things😊 So thanks again from Norway for an excellent channel.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! I love showing my mistakes - I have no idea why. Maybe it's because I know a lot of people will be nodding their heads, saying "I can do that". 😄

[@stefanbuscaylet]

Found your channel yesterday and have been enjoying your videos. Just picked up the router bits from your link just now. I think your shop setup is where I’m ultimately heading until i build a detached shop someday.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Awesome! My shop still works for me, although I wouldn't mind a detached shop. 😄

[@k.b.woodworker3250]

Just a reminder to make sure the router speed is correct for these larger bits. This is both a safety and quality measure. Your bits should have a chart showing this. Easy to forget to do this when you are new. I got the Freud Shaker rail and stile so your video was perfect. This set has other options like for mirrors, but I'm not using that this time. Thanks again for the great video.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks, and that's a great reminder. I almost always forget to do that. 🙄

[@huwdavies5264]

Hi Dan, I rarely use a router and don't yet have a router table. having said that this video is great and you explain the processes so simply. I'm keeping this video for when I buy or make a router table. Cheers, Huw

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks, Huw. I love having a router table. I'll admit that you can live without one, but it sure is nice to have it. 😄

[@edmundhayes7982]

Great video. Thanks so much for educating all of us.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks, and you're quite welcome! 😄

[@datadev1]

Nice explanation for how you adjust the grooves and tongues. Thanks for sharing.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks, and you're quite welcome! 😄

[@MWAWoodworks]

Any idea if you can run these bits without the provided bearing? I need to made a deeper groove than what this bearing allows.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

I wouldn't run them without bearings at all, but I suppose you could replace the bearings with something else. It's also possible someone makes some for deeper grooves.

[@masonlovesroblox]

Great video! I’m glad I’m not the only one who struggles getting router bits out of their damn packaging. I have a scar on my hand from the very first Freud router bit I ever bought! Misery loves company!

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks, and sorry about your scar! I cringe just thinking about it. I can't tell you how many times I've grabbed a bit by the blade thinking I'll just pull it out with no issues. Fortunately, so far, every time I've done that I've realized how stupid I'm being *before* hurting myself. Which, now that I think about it, is kind of unusual for me - I'm usually the "Well, *that* was stupid!" kind of guy. 😄

[@stephenwalsh3629]

Excellent tutorial ! Thanks.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

You're quite welcome! 🙂

[@chipatchison5971]

Another fabulous video. I love the way you logically present stuff. Just like a technical review meeting :) Also, your wife is a sweetheart. Love the drawings.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! And yep, just like a technical review meeting. Thank God I don't have to sit through those anymore! My wife is absolutely a sweetheart, thanks for noticing. 😄

[@wrxified]

Best overview of the 99-036 bit. Thanks!!

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks, and you're welcome! 😄

[@miketayse]

Thanks! I'm getting ready to make my first set of cabinet doors, great tips.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Awesome! Glad I could help. 🙂

[@dcr1978a]

I used the table saw method on my first project for the tongue and grooves. Simple, as some KZbin videos show? Yeah, right! After numerous adjustments and multiple scrap pieces later … my patience got tested. Too big then too small. Too tight then too loose. Back and forth my table saw fence went. Finally, hours later I got a “just right” fit. Might just have to try this method next time. Nice informative video.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Sometimes the best way to learn is to do it the hard way first, so you know why *not* to do it that way again. 😂Glad I could help.

[@peterodger3043]

Hi Newbie, great video as always and now I know your wife is the boss in the workshop. LOL. I don't need tape to tell me when I am wrong, I have been maried for 45 years. And another LOL. Keep em coming because I watch and learn. Thank you

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

LOL. Several times, in fact. The thing about my wife is, when she's adamant about something, she is almost always right. I would have said she was always right, but after being married, um 34 years? she was finally wrong a couple of months ago, for the first time. And I'm not kidding. And you're welcome. 😄

[@bobnicholas5994]

I need my information exactly like this. I tell myself I will never need this until I need it. I will do the cheat where you glue the shaker panel to the front of a flat panel. One of my friends did that and it looks incredible. As usual this is first class and very well done. It is finally spring here and In am going to get to use all my woodworking youtube brain. Thx

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

LOL, glad I could help. I'll bet you're just dying to get in the shop - have fun and stay safe!

[@boots7859]

I like your style.. no really. Interesting topics, this is great because I have a router and need to make some doors this spring! Good tips, and not afraid to discuss/show mistakes that we can all learn from. Keep up the good job.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! I don't mind showing my mistakes, because I never seem to learn from them, so hopefully someone else will. 😄

[@scofah]

@@TheNewbieWoodworker LOL! You're so funny. I loved hearing your wife laugh in this video too. THANK YOU FOR THESE videos! Also - I saw your reference to Woodworking for Mere Mortals - Steve Ramsey - and I'm thinking you two should definitely do a video together. Two of my absolute favorite woodworking guys. As long as I'm here - and I'm worried you'll feel obligated to comment - since you seem to leave comments for everyone.... 1) you don't have to comment on everything I say! :+) 2) I cannot thank you enough for your help with Sketchup, your blog about StopSaw (I'm so glad you and your thumb are okay), all your informative videos, and your kind funny sense of humor. You're truly delightful. THANK YOU. p.s. I love that you don't have music throughout the videos (I don't like the background noise of a lot of woodworking videos - and often mute them - then worry that I'm missing some random comment). Your videos are calming. Okay - please don't feel obligated to write back - I just wanted you to know how happy I am that you're on KZbin! Edit: Added close parentheses

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

@@scofah I'm going to give you way more information than you wanted, but that's just the way I am. But before that, thanks for all the cool things you said. You have no idea how nice it is to read things like that, but trust me, it makes my day. And that's so nice of you to put Steve Ramsey and me in the same sentence. I do feel a kindred spirit to him, and he's one of the people that inspired me to start a channel. With that said, I kind of doubt Steve knows me from Adam. 😄And I'm fine with that. Here's a truth, and a secret about why I always reply back. The truth is, I love conversing with people, and if someone bothers to comment, I want to honor that by replying. A day might come in the future when I have too many viewers to be able to respond, so I want to do it as long as I can. Here's the secret, well the first part isn't a secret, but you'll understand in a moment: KZbin is terrible about notifying KZbinrs about comments, and replies to comments. If you replied to a video that's a month old, I might not ever get notified. So, because I hate when that happens, I wrote an app that reads ALL the comments/replies to all my videos. Then it filters out comment threads where my reply is the last one. That way, I know what I haven't replied to yet. So hopefully I'll never miss a comment. HOWEVER, I HAVE to reply to a comment/reply, or the app won't filter it out. So, I'm almost always going to have the last word, even if it's just a 👍. 😛 PS: I don't like music in videos either. It's almost always just annoying or distracting.

[@scofah]

@@TheNewbieWoodworker Okay - now that I know all that - and understand the commenting/ability to comment/process for commenting/etc, - and thanks for explaining that - I have another reason to be impressed - YOU WROTE AN APP FOR THAT - wow. You're really amazing. So now, please reply with that thumbs up or happy face. And know that I'm smiling over here in reply. :) Thanks again. P.S. I think you and Steve live in the same state - so maybe there's (at least) a chance of a collaboration! I'll keep my fingers crossed.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

@@scofah LOL, nope, I gotta do a real reply. 😛I'm a retired software developer, so on one hand it's a no-brainer to write the app. On the other hand, I was never a web developer, so it's actually pretty cool. I'd hang my head in shame if an experienced web developer looked at the code, but then I'd say "Yeah, you could have written it better. But you didn't think of it, did you?" and just smile away. Much like woodworking, actually. But the reason I had to reply was that yes, we're in the same state, but it's a LONG state. We're probably 400 miles apart, at least. That's not *that* far away, but it sure ain't close! 😄

[@TheOtherGuybo]

Thanks. Nice details, exactly what I needed.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Awesome! Glad I could help. 🙂

[@MJCPeters]

Dan, I actually caught myself smiling, when I saw there was a new "Newbie" video available to watch. Thanks for an excellent Channel I have learned quite a bit from you..

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks, and I appreciate your continued support (that sounds so corporate, but you know what I mean). And as I said in the other thread, please challenge me when you think I'm doing something wrong. I don't ever want to start thinking I know it all, because that's really asking for trouble. 😮

[@auroradrp]

What a pleasant video... though I’m familiar with the processes taught, your approach had a new found freshness and appeal. I feel more assured if not an improvement in my skills. Thanks.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thank you! What a nice thing to say. 😄

[@shrimpy8342]

That's so helpful. I wanted to know how I could adjust the cutter so to leave enough space above the groove to make beadboard. Thanks for such an excellent video!

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! Glad I could help! 😄

[@kevinnobody3052]

Great video Dan. Thanks for your down to earth explanations in your video. I love detailed explanations. Leaves nothing to chance.👍

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! 😄

[@digoulm]

I love how you explain things, so easy to understand 👍

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! 😄

[@robertrodriguez3202]

Great content and candor. I appreciate them both and am enjoying reading your blog posts

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! Glad to hear it. 😄

[@johnfrederickson3082]

OUTSTANDING

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks!

[@knowledge2100]

Thank you, I have been following your videos and I like your router table, this is now on my bucket list. I have a Sears Router table about 30 years old and has served me well. Expanding my projects and it has a small surface. Your explanation and demonstration is right on target. Keep up the great work.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! I appreciate it. 😄

[@lewienewsom3833]

Ha Dan I like the way you hooked up your router table hose. One for the bit and I'm assuming the other small hose goes in the cabinet. Mine always fills up with saw dust now I know how to fix it. Thanks.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks!. It works OK, but it's not perfect. Still, it's better than nothing. 😄

[@rudymunoz901]

funny you mention Steve Ramsey, i watch his videos for the same reason i watch yours; instructional, informative with a great sense of humor. :-)

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Ditto on Steve Ramsey. He's one of my mentors, even if he doesn't know me from Adam. I love when he has his son in his videos - always a good laugh.

[@kathywinn6869]

You are just too dang cute for your own good! I’ve watched many, many of your videos and I do believe this is the best one so far. Informative at it core and kind and humorous at its heart. Thank you.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks, Kathy, that's really nice. I think you've described me perfectly! Perhaps not accurately, but I'll take it. 😂

[@TheFalconJetDriver]

Hey Dan I am making a set of cabinets and fighting with another style and rail bit set what pain. As for measuring it does not matter if the man can or can not measure very well it is more important that The woman can not measure art all! 🤣 I must say this video has the potential to become a very sharp video. We all want to meet the the Mrs. at least she has a sense of humor too! Keep up the great videos. You have given some great tips, I use space balls that fit inside of the groves of the styles to allow expansion of the panel When the panel contracts the spaces balls push the panels back out. Oh do not glue the panel in place, other wise when the panel expands it will comprise the the joints. Than applies more to solid panels than man made sheet goods, but I have sheet goods expand too.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks. Some great points. My wife has a great sense of humor, and we're laughing our way through our "happily ever after". Personally, I'd say this is an edgy video. 😂Great comments. I agree about not gluing the panels, but I read some forum threads where people argued about which is right, so I decided to kind-of skirt the issue. I didn't want to start a holy war. 😄

[@jasonkelley6391]

Awesome video! You do a great job narrating.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! I appreciate it! 😄

[@lewisway6811]

Hey Dan, great video. I enjoy your style. Keep them coming.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! 😛

[@johnmcmeans2825]

Another nicely done video, Dan. Thanks

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! 🙂

[@ehudgavron9086]

First, you're HILARIOUS! "Take that wife, I CAN judge the size of small things!" Second, given you know I listened that far into it, I can say you are BY FAR one of the best explainer of details. I will NEVER lose the shims or the washer after this. Finally, thanks for taking a tongue-and-groove set of bits which most people take for granted and explaining IN DETAIL how to use them. I am in your debt. Also, small things and guys judging sizes heh heh. ;)

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! I really appreciate it! And my wife really did say that to me when I told her I was having problems judging the size. She NEVER says stuff like that, so that made it even funnier. Welcome aboard. 😄

[@tyneshaanthony5768]

Liked this guy, very on point, and his tone just has that great teach sound. Wish more were like this, more good commentary less cheese music.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! And I hate the cheesy music too.

[@marrazzowoodworkingdiy8118]

You crack me up. Great video. I have used my router table very little ans have made my doors on my tablesaw in the past. I was thinking of purchasing a set of bits like these but wasn't sure. After watching this video I am ordering the bit set immediately. I was thinking one should wear leather gloves while removing the bits to reduce the chance of getting cut? Great job.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks - glad you enjoy the humor. Life's too short not to laugh (was that another size joke?). Someone else mentioned gloves, and I think that's a great idea. Thanks again!

[@maxximumb]

I couldn't afford the adjustable bits, but a cheap T&G set for a 6mm panel saved me hours of time when I was making a room divider. Set the groove cutter once, run all the stock. Set up the tongue cutter, spend time getting it aligned and then run the rail ends. The finished panels took half the time it took to build the first 2 using regular router bits. (Also cheaper as I didn't break any 6mm straight cutting bits. I'd really recommend getting a T&G set if you plan on making more than one door / panel.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks for the comment. I didn't do much research on the bits before I bought them, so I don't know what else is available. What bits did you use?

[@mattstevens2117]

Just picked up these bits today, thanks for the info!

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Awesome! Glad I could help. 😄

[@kperellie]

Great explanation on how to use that bit etc.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! 😄

[@timpedzinski230]

Hey Dan, Another good video! I checked the "Show More" and didn't see a credit for the great appearance from Mrs Dan. She has a great laugh. While I did follow the measurement of 1 hundredth the machinist in me was crying. I would have said 10 thousandths. They both mean the same but I guess it depends on what you are used to working with. Probably 1/64 would have been better (.016) That would have given you a little looser fit.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

LOL, that's my wife, Gina. She does have a great laugh. I didn't tell her what I was going to say, so that's an honest reaction by her. And the laugh describes her perfectly. Regarding .01", I'm just lucky I didn't call it a tenth! And you're absolutely right about using 1/64 instead. Live and learn. As for your being a machinist, I suspect there are plenty of videos that make you cringe. Kudos for managing not going off the deep end. 😉

[@markrowland5393]

Great video, Dan. Please keep up the good work.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! 😄

[@myhoneyshandmade1077]

nice. Hope to make some of these later this year.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Great! I hope this helps. 😄

[@brentwoods973]

Great video Dan! What an idea on the doors! Thanks

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! 😄

[@crs1012]

Thanks for the video, Dan! I usually prefer my doors to be slightly loose on the dry fit since the glue will provide some friction. Might as well do that and skip the sanding step IMO.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! I wasn't sure if the tongues would be a consistent thickness or not, so I was leaving room for that being a problem. It turned out it wasn't a problem, so next time, I'll do just what you suggested. Thanks! 😄

[@k.b.woodworker3250]

Great video! Some cabinet doors are in my future, so I'll use this for reference. Is that a Musclechuck? Your wife has a good sense of humor!

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks, glad to help. Check out the Jay Bates video also (in the description above). No, it's an Xtreme Xtension, which I need for my DIY router lift. And yes, my wife has a great sense of humor - why else would she have married me? 😉Thanks again.

[@albertosantamaria4168]

Good video congratulations Im learning

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! Glad I could help! 🙂

[@RC62]

Groovy baby, groovy. Sorry, I couldn't resist. Great video sir. :D

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

You have no idea how hard it was to keep from saying that in the video. 😛And thanks. 😄

[@atomiczombie22]

Great video Dan 👍👌👏

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks!

[@jasonwilson6043]

Great video. Helped me a lot!

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Awesome! 😄

[@trongod2000]

Excellent instructional video. Thanks for sharing.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! Interesting KZbin name. There has to be a story behind that. 😄

[@trongod2000]

@@TheNewbieWoodworker 22 yrs as a US Navy electronics tech and 15 years teaching Electrical Engineering at the local University. Built my first computer back in 1976. It had 256 bytes of memory. Yeah I know, isn't that crazy? I had to program it in binary until I upgraded it to be able to input hexadecimal. Needless to say, your right, there is a story behind it... A VERY LONG story. lol

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

@@trongod2000 My brother graduated from the Naval Academy. He ended up in the Marines, flying fighter jets. When he got out, he worked for one of the big aviation giants designing pilot/cockpit interfaces. As for me, I learned my first programming on a DEC PDP 8, using paper tape and teletypes with acoustic modems (the kind you put the phone handset in). My first professional programming job was using punched cards. I don't miss those days at all. My first PC was an original IBM PC, and at one point, I was programming TSR applications in assembly. Those days are long gone, of course. 😄I got stories too. 😛

[@trongod2000]

@@TheNewbieWoodworker WOW; Small world. I have a nephew who is currently driving an F-35 for the Marines over across the big pond. You mentioning the PDP 8 brought back a ton of memories for me. The first real computer I got to know and use was a Zerox word processor on the USS Saratoga back in the early 80's. It was running CPM on 8" floppies. I picked up Basic and Fortran and was off to the races building databases using Dbase II. Like many programmers I guess, I found it to be a lot of fun. I guess that rubbed off on my son as he got a degree in video game development and has been using that with companies like EA.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

@@trongod2000 Wow, that is interesting! Ah yes, I remember CPM and 8" floppies. My other brother had an Osborne, if you remember those. We didn't call it a portable, we called it a luggable. That's awesome about your son! I'm a pretty decent programmer, but only in the business world. Game programming is as much magic to me as it is to most people. But I play them, that's for sure! 😄

[@Sly_Wolf_1]

Judge of size 😂🤣😂 That's why women can't judge gaps and park the car.... 🤔 Because men kept saying "that's 12" inches", "yes it really is honey" 😏 But seriously, you produced yet another great video, loved hearing your wife giggle too, makes everything so natural and not artificially scripted and I produced. 👍

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! I appreciate it! 😄

[@timhalcomb4041]

Thanks for sharing wisdom have a blessed day

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! 😄

[@georgevalenzuela2489]

Well explained! Thanks

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks, and you're welcome! 😄

[@JusBidniss]

Hey Dan, if you failed to tighten these bits fully in the router, would that cause a Freudian slip? 😎

[@kperellie]

LOL

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

You're just a regular cut-up. Too sharp for me. But I think at the minimum, it would put you on the bleeding edge. 😛

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

@Harry M 👍

[@JusBidniss]

To paraphrase Sigmund himself, 'Sometimes a Freud brand router bit is just a Freud brand router bit?' 😎

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

@@JusBidniss I was going to say that a loose router bit tends to rise up, and that sounds Freudian to me...

[@csimet]

Good overview. Table saw cut shaker doors are fast and easy for me, but they can't easily make doors with more advanced panel profiles on the inner edge like a good set of router bits. My door preference is shaker but with a basic 22 degree beveled inside edge the Freud bit set 99-762 does... eliminates the 90 degree edge along the panel and helps keep dust from settling on it. Just a more clean/finished look IMHO. I like the Freud set compared to most others in that it allows for adjustments to fit the panel material better... most plywood runs thinner than the stated thickness.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks for the info! 👍

[@csimet]

@@TheNewbieWoodworker Tip I forgot to mention... cut the rails first (the tongue cuts). The stile cuts (groves) will remove any minor end grain blow-out.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

@@csimet 👍

[@thomasbrovarone7136]

Hi Dan ... Newbie Tom here. I just bought this exact set of router bits for shaker cabinet doors. Newbie question: Are these bits set up for the minimum tongue and grooves cuts right out of the box (ie ... no spacers). Thanks

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Hi Tom! If memory serves, yes, they are. The pictures on Amazon look that way, too.

[@mishtiliving]

Great video. I had trouble for the panel *not* being true 1/4. That lead to confusion whether I should cut the groove to fit the panel or the rails (I cant have 2 groove one for panel and one for rails). My panel was 3/16 of an inch. So to keep it consistent groove for both the panel as well as the rails, I used the least common denominators: that is the panel. That made the rail tongue 3/16 too. Of course it doesn't look nice and symmetric but t will had to do. Not sure if you have a better idea to deal with this.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks. Without being there to look at it, I can't really offer any suggestions. I usually just let it simmer in my head for a while, until an idea pops up. Or try different things to see how they look. The other thing I do is watch a lot of videos to see if someone else as an idea - but I assume you're already doing that. 😄Try to look at it like you weren't the one who made it - would you really notice the differences unless you looked closely? A lot of us are way too hard on ourselves. 🙄

[@donnaporter3989]

awesome tips, thank you

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Glad I could help! 👍

[@petec6690]

Nice job.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! 🙂

[@ronrocha316]

Good job 👍

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! 😄

[@vincebaker3384]

Great video I recently got a router table I agree with you I probably would have trouble doing this with a table saw especially with mine is too small for it dado blade. I really like all the tips is shown in this video and the mistakes some of them are mistakes I'm sure I would have made if not for this video.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Glad to help! At least my mistakes are good for something. 😛

[@nancycrase7112]

very helpful. thank you

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Awesome! Glad I could help. 😄

[@kylewo0]

What size plywood did you use for the panels? Always have a trouble finding one that fits snug. So I usually settle 1/2 and route the edges to size… looking to skip that step! Thanks

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

I don't remember, but whatever it was, I adjusted the router bit set to match.

[@ZoltanGyulai1965]

She sounds happy :)

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

👍

[@ericmurray6980]

Dan, I like that wife thing, where she was laughing at you when you said "take that wife". Lol!

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! We had fun with that - she had no idea what I was going to say. 😄

[@infinytower3317]

Nice and funny explanatory video! One question/suggestion, though; Why not make a single-piece center stile with twin grooves on both sides instead of what you did?

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks, and great question. I wanted it to look like two doors, so I wanted the seam. It was just a design choice, more to see how it would work out than anything else.

[@infinytower3317]

The Newbie Woodworker I see. That explains it! Thanks for your kind reply! Kudos!

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

@@infinytower3317 You're welcome! 😄

[@psilver03]

Funny, informative, great guy!

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks!

[@genericsp4788]

you got me, I suscribed

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! Glad to have you aboard! 👍

[@timgwaltney4793]

Great video..

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! 👍

[@xisotopex]

what type of wood would be good to use if you want to finish it in some way and not paint it?

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Honestly, just about any kind of wood. Watch some YouTune videos on staining wood (or however you want to finish it) to get some ideas. Then get some smaller samples and try staining them or whatever, until you find something that looks good to you (which is all that matters). You can often find free cut-offs (I don't remember what they call them) at Home Depot or other stores where they cut wood for you, and they put all the cut-offs together in one place where you can just take them, or pay a smalll amount. Don't be afraid to try different things out!

[@kryptik0]

Hi Dan, I am curious about what problems you ran into with the table saw. I was going to use Ramsey’s half lap method for the frame joints but unlike his rabbets, I would like to cut a dado to take the panel insert. He just glues the panel on one side. Wondering what could go wrong with my method. (Good router bits are expensive!)

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

I just didn't like my results, but there's no reason not to try what you're talking about. I felt I could do better on the router table, and I also thought it would make a good video. So by all means, go for it your way! 😄

[@davidlambert1450]

Though I appreciate that within the context of the bits being adjustable the tongues and grooves actually are adjustable...by using different sized bearings

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

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[@PMJ423]

Great video. Keep it up

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! 😄

[@hansdegroot8549]

Great instructional video. I've learned a lot again. Thanks for sharing. How much HP (or k(W) is your router? My router can handle only 8 mm (and 6 mm) shafts. Not 12 mm or 1/2" But it has 1200W

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks. I don't remember, but it's pretty decent. I've never had anything it couldn't handle. Yes, unfortunately, these bits have half-inch shanks. But perhaps someone else makes then with smaller shanks?

[@dgomes4464]

I an using the same bit, when making the tongue it seems to be overheating and its making a burn mark on the wood , any idea what could be wrong ? TY

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

I'm not sure. Maybe you're running the router at the wrong speed, if you have a variable-speed router? Or maybe you're pushing the stock through it either too fast or too slow? It could also be the type of wood - if it's really hard wood, burning is always a possibility.

[@BigmoRivera]

Great Job👍🏽🔨📐… Here’s A Tip Get A Nedle Nose Pliyer And Rap Electrical Tape At The End Top & Bottom That Way You Can Grab It And No Scratch Marks On The Bits…

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks for the info!

[@kevinmcsweeney6560]

Would like the router bit set but they wont ship to Ireland 😪

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Well, at least you live in a beautiful country. 😄

[@baloomapache2980]

Gracias por compartir..

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

👍

[@Chef_PC]

Hammers work pretty well opening those containers. Also bandsaws....

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Bandsaws. I vote for them. 😂

[@jddeefo1022]

So Dan, is the router table or the tablesaw the best choice for making these doors? Why?

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

My personal opinion is that these bits work great, and I'll certainly use them the next time I need to do this. But I'm sure there's people who would rather use the table saw, so it's probably just personal preference.

[@echavez397]

Hi there. I purchased a Freud adjustable tongue and groove bit set (99-036) for my ryobi plunge router however the router doesn’t go down enough so I can make a groove in the Centre of the 3/4” stock. My question is Can you insert the shank about 50%of the way into the collet so I can get the bit to go down further or is that dangerous to do? Also do you have any videos or know of any that explains how to assemble the bit set when adding shims to adjust the depths of the cuts. The set is supposed to be adjustable but when I added the shims I ended up ruining the blade because the top and bottom cutters ended up touching each other. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks so much.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Honestly, I'm not sure if it's OK to insert the shank half-way or not. And I don't know anything about shimming them. So I'm not much help. Sorry.

[@echavez397]

@@TheNewbieWoodworker thanks so much. I really value your opinion as I much like you said everything that can go wrong goes wrong. I watched this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/bp7Waomnlr2ajMU&feature=share on a guy explaining how to adjust the cutters using the shims provided in the set. But I noticed in the comments some were saying he assembled the cutters incorrectly. Would you be willing to watch it and tell me if he did in fact incorrectly assembled it. I’m very new at this and I want to make sure I don’t ruin the $140 blade I just purchased. Thank you so much for any help you can offer.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

@@echavez397 I think the video looks good. And if you never take the bottom cutter off, you can always be sure which way to put it back on. Assuming you haven't opened them up yet, take some pictures.

[@echavez397]

@@TheNewbieWoodworker ok thanks. So it was installed fine. I’ll follow his video. Thanks so much

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

@@echavez397 I didn't exactly say that - pay attention to the direction your cutters are facing now, and just make sure you keep them facing that way. He might have put them on backwards, but everything else he says is good.

[@TheTer54]

Do you slow the speed on this for wood hardness?

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

In theory, you should. I almost never change my router speed, which is a bad habit to get into, but, well, there it is. 😄

[@bcain5823]

I have a Bosch router. At what speed should these bits run?

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Honestly, I don't remember, but I'm sure it says the recommended speed on the package.

[@jeffreystewart6571]

I would like you to review you progress in Steve Ramsey's The Weekend Woodworker six-week online woodworking course. Thank you.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

I haven't taken the Weekend Woodworker course, but I *am* taking Powered Up. Check out my blog for reviews - try starting here: thenewbiewoodworker.com/powered-up/

[@kevinwilliams8738]

At the 5.52 min point of this video you talk about making the grove a hundred thousands of an inch more than the panel/tongue thickness; which I thought was excessive/wrong. The number you show in the lower right hand corner of the screen is actually 10 thousands of an inch, which make sense. Other than that, good video.....Thanks

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Oops - I wonder why nobody else commented on it? In any case, thanks. 😄

[@WilliamMichael1]

Thanks! I've been looking at these bits. My only thought is, should you sand down the tongue a little to allow for for expansion between tongue and groove? I especially liked the wife humor! Does she stand by with the bandaids? Sorry! If I keep that up you'll probably block me.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Nah, it's all in good fun. 😄 Especially since it's true! She keeps the bandaids and Neosporin in stock, and helps me use them when needed. And she's constantly sticking her head out into the garage when she hears a funny noise, just to be sure. So you've pretty-much nailed our relationship. 😄You're going to glue the tongue and groove together, so expansion isn't the issue, at least not between the rails and stiles. If they're too loose, the glue won't hold. If they're too tight, I think the glue will be either pushed out, or forced down into the fibers of the wood. So as I understand it, the two pieces should hold together if you pick it up by one of them, but if you wiggle it some, the'll come apart. I hope that makes sense. But I think it's a good idea to not glue the panel, and leave a little room for expansion there.

[@WilliamMichael1]

@@TheNewbieWoodworker OK, makes sense, to glue up the frame but not the panel. I have to learn the little "Bell Icon" at the top right means I have a response to my comments and maybe also when you post another video. Need to stay aware of this, I only had 9 messages I have missed. But I'm still learning!

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

@@WilliamMichael1 KZbin is terrible at notifying people of comments and replies. They *should* email you every time there's a reply (if you have that enabled), but it only sometimes works. So don't worry too much about it. The one thing I can promise you is that I almost never miss a comment or reply, because I wrote an app to monitor my channel. Every once in a while I'm blind and miss something, but rarely. So if you leave a comment or question, I'll reply. 😄

[@jsantef]

There's a chart with the bits to tell you what shims to use for the size you want.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

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[@rudyswoodwork7236]

Good video if cut the plywood square u don’t need those corners clamps ..

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! As for the plywood, and I'm no expert on this, but since the rails and stiles can contract and expand, we're supposed to leave room between them and the plywood, so I don't think the plywood would really help with alignment. What do you think?

[@wb_finewoodworking]

Nicely done. That’s something I need to do in the near future on a cabinet I will be making and I also need to build a cabinet I=under my router table.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! Glad to help. 😄

[@dominadorbitoon6858]

are those blades available f i would buy for me?

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Yes. There's a link in the Comments, above.

[@jt-eb4sp]

Very informativr

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Awesome! Glad I could help. 🙂

[@dougprentice1363]

Nice video. Interesting. But I'll stick with using saw for dados.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks. I don't blame you, especially if you've gotten good at it. It's really hard to micro-adjust the height of my saw blade, so for me, the router table really helps.