Tongue Tie Test: Quick Self-Test to see if you are secretly Tongue Tied! (FOR SINGERS)

Take this super quick self-assessment quiz on tongue mobility, function, and freedom to see if you could be tongue tied, with special emphasis on singing with tongue ties.
Jessica Luffey, CSOM & Operatic Soprano
Opus Orofacial Myology
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For more information about tongue tie, I highly recommend experts:
Dr. Zaghi
The Breathe Institute
Specializing in Adult releases, sleep, and posterior tongue ties
Dr. Baxter
Alabama Tongue Tie Center
Specializing in infant releases and family care
For help finding a release provider near you, a simple google search for "airway dentist near me" is a great start. Many highly experienced dentists and other release providers will usually have "tongue tie" listed prominently on their website :)

[@AmusedAtMusing]

3 - 2 - 1. I am hypermobile, so I don’t have any issues producing sound. I do however have loads of shoulder tension, and neck tension front and back. Tmj issues, lots of teeth grinding during sleep… 😬

[@OpusMyo]

yep yep yep yep ...

[@natashasweeney3720]

I fit 3 fingers first. 2nd test 2.5 3rd test barely 2. My symptoms: Squeezing skull headaches, neck and shoulder tension, throat tension. Tmj alignment issues. Severe muscle spasms. I've been a clencher and grinder for years on ends. I have a dentist appnt next week to help diagnose. I really hope this is the answer to all my issues. Singing is a struggle as well, the throat and tongue feels fatigued.

[@OpusMyo]

Well I'm sad to hear about your pain but HAPPY we may have a solution! Be sure to find a myo to help you before and after your release if you move forward- no 'same-day-tongue-tie-releases"!

[@amelialatimer2397]

Failed. 3 fingers for first. 2 fingers for second and third

[@hayleyquinnx94]

Me too

[@noellealdi881]

3 for the first 3 for the second 2 for the third Does this mean I’m tongue tied?? I definitely want a surgery if so but what doctor do I call for that

[@mesasimonson6612]

>4 - 2.5 - 1.5 I’m gonna cry

[@OpusMyo]

Tears of relief and joy I hope! I was SO relieved when i finally found answers to so many of the problems I was having due to my tongue! It's a lot to take in- but I hope this helps enlighten you and gives some direction for where to look for help if you'd like some :)

[@jesperjee]

This made my heart sink as I am a singer and failed the last test and have problems with tensions, the ng sound and pronouncing certain words. But "just having a surgery" seems a little extreme. I guess I have to make due.

[@OpusMyo]

My hope is that you find this as a sign of hope- don't you want an answer to your chronic tension?! You don't have to "make due"- free yourself and live a better life!

[@RS54321]

It's a very simple outpatient procedure.

[@OpusMyo]

@@RS54321 Yes! Usually about an hour and you are awake (and participating!)

[@irtazamalik3261]

3 3 on first and second 2 on 3rd one but i feel a stretch does it means i have a tongue tie?kindly reply

[@OpusMyo]

*Sounds* like it, but thats why this is just a quick self assessment. The next important step would be to find a great provider who can give you more in-depth answers about if you do and what kind you have etc.

[@anthoneynevera8680]

3 first 1 1/2 seconds 2 third

[@OpusMyo]

A common pattern!

[@kristenheckman7770]

Failed 4, 2, 2 but not a singer.

[@OpusMyo]

Totally normal- I see lots of 'regular humans' too!

[@opayne42]

Wow, I have an extremely bad tongue tie, the first one I could easily get 3, the second barely 2 and the third 1 3/4. I also have a severe deviated septum as well. I’m starting to think there’s no hope for me ever being able to sing. Guess I better schedule some surgeries.

[@OpusMyo]

Wow! How lucky you found this out though! I have had multiple singers get BOTH those surgeries. (not at the same time) and they said it changed their lives. One is an internationally acclaimed Operatic Mezzo who has sung at top venues all over the world- so don't count yourself short. It sounds to me like most of your technique trouble isn't actually technique! If I may, I would suggest talking to an airway focused dentist about tongue ties FIRST- they probably will be able to help more than an ENT.

[@SwedishTourist]

The deviated septum is probably a skull distortion to be fair. Can help to use dental appliances or something like the PRI-method (postural restoration). Not saying that’s advice really but look into it.

[@jankoznar8591]

Hi! I am 28 and tongue tied. I have problem with mask placement, with "ee" vowel and with jaw and tongue relaxation while singing. I was on frenectomy 3 weeks ago, but my range is as bad as before frenectomy and under my tongue was created small "object" (probably a bad scar tissue) which restrict my tongue even more (i exercised as much as possible, but my range was the same even directly after surgery)... is possible to go for frenectomy two times? If i could send you some photos then you maybe can understand better.

[@OpusMyo]

Hello there! Your range of motion directly after surgery (when you walk out the door RIGHT after) should never be the same as before, so that sounds like issue number 1...Yes it is totally possible to go for two frenectomies (I, myself had two!), however most experts agree that you need to wait 6 months to a year before a revision to allow for full healing. Hope that helps :)

[@jankoznar8591]

@@OpusMyo Thank you very much for response! Those informations are really useful for me :-) next year i will try that again.

[@mattallen4154]

@@OpusMyoHello, I am on week 1, my range of motion is a little better, however not as extreme has I thought it would be. Would you say that the stretching during the healing process will gain a little bit more movement?

[@OpusMyo]

@@mattallen4154 Most experts agree that about 70-80% healing happens about 4 weeks after release, but you may not get 100% healing until 6 months after release.

[@C3SIL3Y]

Failed. 3.5 to barely 2 fingers. Also sad about this because I've HAD a frenectomy about 8 years ago. I guess it healed and fused back, only revisiting it because it's causing issues once again.

[@OpusMyo]

Unfortunately, that can happen. it could also be that the first doc did not release everything 100% the first time- that happened to me personally!

[@RS54321]

So, I'm assuming one has a tongue tie if they can't fit as many fingers in the second and third test as they did in the first? This wasn't explicitly stated.

[@OpusMyo]

Yes, so sorry! Its not a perfect scoring system, but its close enough. (for a formal diagnosis, they have a special ruler and they actually measure each one in mm!)

[@RS54321]

@@OpusMyo ok, thanks!

[@charliemayfilms1550]

I can’t roll my rs AT ALL and I just read somewhere it could be a tongue tie which I’ve thought I might have one for a while, and surely enough I failed the tests lol. Though I can roll my tongue.

[@OpusMyo]

YES! In Brazil, if you cant roll your R they automatically look for a tie (in the U.S. we don't because the english language doesnt use that sound, so you slipped the net!)

[@RS54321]

Oh, wow! That would make sense as I have such a hard time pronouncing some Italian words. Hopefully the tongue tie release will help!

[@OpusMyo]

@@RS54321 YES! Also those pesky Italian /a/ which is so hard for native English speakers can be impossible with a tongue tie. Also some double Italian consonants

[@JoeIcke1]

Failed quite miserably 1st - 3 fingers 2nd (tip touch) - 2 fingers 3rd (click) - 1 finger I have had jaw pain for the last ten years Throbbing head aches the same A slipped vertebrae in my back (L4 - L5) On and off neck pain, sometimes real bad Sleep apnea Breathing difficulty Anxiety Ear tubes when I was a kid I’m 29 and baffled by this whole thing,

[@OpusMyo]

Ahhhhh. yes none of these symptoms surprise me! Looks like you're on the right track now! I'd get diagnosed!

[@JoeIcke1]

@@OpusMyo thanks for your reply, booked in too see a myo. Any advice on who is best to get the release done by? I’ve seen videos of extremely thorough releases done by medical doctors with a scalpel. and then 1 minute one’s done by a dentist with a laser.. surely can’t be the same quality and result

[@anonymousstacker2044]

​@@OpusMyo Please reply to this thread, I have the same question as tje commenter above me

[@OpusMyo]

@@JoeIcke1 Hi there! (Sorry for the late reply, I try to respond to everyone but you must have slipped through my notifications...) YESSSS!!!! HOW the procedure is performed is extremely important. Basically it boils down to three things for adults: 1. does the provider require myo before and after the release 2. does the provider perform an 'active' / 'cave hold' release and 3. do they have the right kind of laser (any kind of CO2 laser). The answer must be YES to all three of those! If not- Run Away! lol. (DEFINITELY run away from anyone who says "Oh yeah, I can do it right now" ! :0 ) One great resource is to use Dr. Zaghi's webisite to find providers near you: www.breatheinstitute.com, but a google search for "tongue tie near me" with some research and a couple phone calls can work just as well. Obviously, I am a myo, so in my opinion getting a great myo to help you is step number 1, as they are the ones who can help find a provider near you and who will be there to hold your hand through the whole process! Hope this helps! xo

[@OpusMyo]

@@anonymousstacker2044 Thanks for the bump reminder!

[@masoudshairzadeh6820]

Hey, I got a question I’m trying to rap really fast like Eminem. I often noticed when enunciating words I tongue twist a lot do you recommend tongue twisters? I heard a lot of singers/rappers use tongue twisters enunciate better.

[@OpusMyo]

Yes, they can help, I dont use them so much myself

[@RedNiel100]

This was truly eye-opening for me! So in the first exercise I can fit 4 fingers between my teeth. In the second one I could fit approximately 2,5 fingers. In the third I could only fit 2, and it was the ring- and pinkiefinger... What's interesting though is that - my voice has way more endurance than a lot of my choir friends. - In breath exercises I have better/longer than avarage air flow.* - I can roll my tounge, both with and without the help of closed lips. - I can roll my R:s very well (probably thanks to me being swedish) - Also I *used* to have problem with tension in the neck and jaw, but I've managed to overcome that by focusing on relaxing the jaw while singing.* *Although these two things are kind of inconsistant and I have to put a lot of focus to make these work.

[@OpusMyo]

Ah, yes but I would be curious what your POSTERIOR symptoms are: as that is the one you said was most restrictive. So how are your: high notes on an /i/ aka "eee" vowel? (they should be just as free and easy as /a/ and /u/! ) How's your mask resonance on your upper transition /passaggio? How's your lower transition? How's your soft palate lift and laryngeal lowering on high notes- is it always both or just one? and Lastly, hows your pelvic floor support- is it sometimes slow or not enough? ;)

[@RedNiel100]

@@OpusMyo I don't know quite enough about singing anatomy to answer all of these questions, but I'll answer as much as I can: "high notes on an /i/ aka "eee" vowel?" Pretty well on the best of days and has gotten better the past couple of months, but rarely *as free* as /a/. "How's your mask resonance on your upper transition /passaggio?" I have never found a good/relatable explanation to what the mask is, so I don't think I have figured out how to use my mask. Or maybe I am doing it without realising it is what I am doing XD "How's your lower transition?" Could you please elaborate what you mean by that. Do you mean transition into the lower chest voice-range?

[@DerkuiRoblox]

I failed the second test :(

[@OpusMyo]

Ah yes, the sneaky posterior tongue! You are not alone, I personally had that same kind!

[@DerkuiRoblox]

@ ooh thanks for letting me know what it was :)

[@DerkuiRoblox]

I probably have to schedule some appointments

[@OpusMyo]

@@DerkuiRoblox Lol yes thats right!

[@sacredcowyoga7672]

Failed