Tony meets with Phil's men - The Sopranos HD

Tony meets with Phil's men, The Sopranos HD

[@osleg1460]

Just remember those bright colors from first season and light humour.

[@MattyIcecubes]

Yeah, the show got progressively darker. Season 6 part 2 is almost entirely devoid of any sort of sitcom moments. The first thing that happens in the final episodes that gets a chuckle out of the audience is in the series finale when Phil's head gets run over.

[@rinneganitachi4840]

All of them: Fuck its too cold lets just agree to whack Phil and get this over with

[@darrelldye8170]

It's probably 0°below and they hold court and whoever can handle the pressure of the cold controlled the meeting and it looks like Tony was sitting there comfortably

[@LordTalax]

no such thing as 0 below

[@SexyFace]

in fahrenheit there is @@LordTalax

[@pimas11]

@@SexyFace there’s no 0 above lol

[@SexyFace]

both centigrade & fahrenheit temperatures scale into negatives below zero degrees

[@chucky2569]

0 degrees C

[@thebaddog4104]

You help us get a location on Phil..we can't he turned into a house again and nobody knows what street he's on.

[@steveshutt6409]

Uncle Philly my ass.

[@jaymeister4850]

Oh, I thought he was doing twenty fuckin' years again

[@kahlilsmoot9922]

😁😁😁😁

[@toptenguy1]

"We can't get a location.. He *IS* a location".

[@ZCherish]

Multiple calls traced to a house. No, literally, a house.

[@kendrickmaeldun]

Tony was contemplating killing Paulie but in the end he was the last man standing for Tony.

[@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants]

He should have killed Paulie.He was one of the most likely to rat. Off topic Tony was so mean to Carlo sometimes that over those alone it could lead someone to rat.

[@jaw9095]

@@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants the whole crew was basically a suspect of being a rat because tony was such a terrible boss.

[@ar507]

To be fair he did tell Johnny sack about the joke

[@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants]

@@ar507 Which is why he was one of the most likely to rat.The FBI would have had the recording from when he was in jail.All they had to do was go up to Paulie and say become a rat or we play this for Tony.Paulie would have to rat or run and would really have no other option. What is also interesting is some claim the actor put it in his contract that Paulie can never rat.If this is true or not I do not know but if it is true why would he ever agree to that storyline? Paulie is remembered as a rat by many over Johnny Sack alone.It implies he would be more likely to rat to the police/fbi vs any mobster who would not share family secrets for money.It would be interesting Johnny Sack trying to bribe every member of the crew and seeing how each reacts.

[@tommo2047]

@@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants he has the least reason to rat, no family that needs him, no chance at a life outside of New Jersey, old enough that he had no desire for a new future. Paulie was a liability but doubt he’d rat

[@luqas99]

Somebody chose that location in order to get NY to hurry up and settle.

[@jaxj9813]

Explain why

[@batchagaloopytv5816]

@@jaxj9813 the cold enviroment out in nowhere maybe itsa setup 🤷‍♂️

[@SexyFace]

idk ny can get frigid

[@mobstakon1]

To me this meeting signifies the end. No fancy room or location just out in the freezing cold in a shithole warehouse with water to drink because that's what it has come to.

[@timothygumenik726]

What I always wondered was how Tony was able to survive financially. With his gambling addiction, and his whole crew crumbling.

[@luigivincenz3843]

when I saw this on cable years ago, George and/or Carmine could have whacked one family and sided with the other family. And they were unarmed. I dont like third parties brokering a neutral place because anyone can flip at anytime.

[@chadchaddingtonflexington8415]

Bruh most real deals and discussions are made in places like this😂your lil "fancy room" is mostly fictional

[@matthewriley7826]

You have to remember there’s a war going on. Meeting in a “fancy public place” will just paint a target on your back.

[@guthax30]

I had the same feeling: the show is about death and money according to David chase. Everything becomes grey and empty in the end.

[@joshuawarren8340]

Butch instigated the whole war then turned on phil

[@NGJ05]

had to save his ass quick once phil started getting paranoid with him

[@mikeg2491]

@@NGJ05 when Phil said you and I are going to have a sit down when this is all over, that was immediate red flags your ass is grass

[@trapcorleone4321]

Did anyone else notice that carmine jr was really calling the shots for the ny family? In the end he got what he wanted he sat back and watched it all fall right into his hands

[@kevinkey9146]

1:35 would make a great oil painting.

[@cmccabe07921]

"we decapitate and do business with whatever's left"

[@edwardsisson3580]

"It's all yours"

[@russsnyder2026]

You got my word, we’ll back off….then we’ll put it in drive

[@9SecondStreetMustang]

Oh you think this is funny?!?

[@staffsgt.sullivan3833]

DONT STOP 🔫 3️⃣

[@JSWang-ii8kd]

@2:25, Butchy reached out to Paulie for a handshake when Tony looked around.

[@funkymunky]

And?

[@pimas11]

@@funkymunky people theorize Paulie and butchie had them both whacked

[@funkymunky]

@@pimas11 We’ll never know. We can only speculate. We’re all Charles Schwab, ova’ here.

[@JSWang-ii8kd]

@@funkymunky That's the beautiful part of the show, for leaving these open endings for us to thinking and arguing, even 20 years after the show.

[@funkymunky]

@@JSWang-ii8kd Yup 👍🏻

[@jofgbg3123]

So, no soft drinks of choice? Just water?

[@steveshutt6409]

That diet Fanta would’ve been ice cold.

[@Moose6340]

Last time somebody got offered a soft drink it was Matt Bevilacqua, and you saw how that turned out...

[@alpkorsan]

There is only water.

[@carlsagan3065]

Little Carmine played everyone.

[@ebn128]

Idk man, I just don’t see it that way. Little Carmine already told Tony he didn’t want the boss position. If he did, he would’ve just taken it earlier right after Johnny Sack died of cancer

[@michaelcalland801]

I dont think so.... Carmine ended up last man standing by accident.... Which is very aragorical when you think about it

[@Postc0ital_mal0ne]

@@michaelcalland801 I agree. Carmine was legit dumb. Moreso lucky than smart...

[@ebn128]

@@Postc0ital_mal0ne It’s not luck when he made a conscious decision to not take boss mantle because of what it brings. He chose happiness over power. Even Tony was taken aback by how insightful his reasoning was

[@co94]

@@michaelcalland801 Little Carmine could see the forest in tree dimensions.

[@paulpatane2439]

Hey I know its 16 degrees,but who wants some frozen water.

[@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants]

3 of them do take the water later you can see it on the table.

[@icey984]

The look behind from Tony at the end

[@icey984]

@My Channel true true bro

[@chrisc.8605]

also if you noticed at the start that sounds like alarm bells ringing two guys appear out of the darkness when the likes come on.

[@flightofthebumblebee9529]

What look? I only notice he gets startled when George offers then water and he jumps a bit.

[@icey984]

@@flightofthebumblebee9529 watch Tony at the end of the meeting when everyone gets up to leave, he turns his head as if he thinks someone might shoot him in the back of the head. 2:25

[@TheMt45]

I would have brought one of those big Starbucks coffee to-go boxes, probably would have gone over better than the water. Georgie dropped the ball.

[@jrob4795]

You're absolutely right. You can hear the damn wind whistling for Pete's sake.

[@Calypso993]

Make that coffe to-go

[@SexyFace]

he never had the makings of an ivy-league host

[@RicardoGonzalez-zf7ts]

100% got whacked because of this

[@jrob4795]

@@RicardoGonzalez-zf7ts He might as well have offered them popsicles. Yeah, no way he survived this.

[@MegaMacReal]

The sound in the beginning: Tony’s alarm bells should have been ringing

[@TheMt45]

Nothing is an accident on this show

[@chrisc.8605]

@@TheMt45 if you didn't notice during the ringing sound when the lights come on two guys appear out of the darkness suddenly.

[@goobot1]

?

[@johnlewisbrooks]

Carmine and Butchy played everyone and did it without soft drinks of choice and a hundred shine box jokes.

[@ExcavationNation]

It's sandwich of your choice.! Get it right!

[@joemckim1183]

Carmine and Butchy had to compromise.

[@TVSTGProductions]

@@joemckim1183 I wanted to watch the sopranos. I compromised. I watched Nicky Deuce instead

[@toptenguy1]

1:33 "Phil, he's changed... Into a house".

[@TheMadeMan5685]

A house with a number that has a 2 and a 0 in it

[@gayan2517]

It's a meeting of minds with freezing balls.

[@nihaalsandim9986]

Very good observation...the sacred and the propane

[@marcuswashington5159]

Tony always being greedy we won't kill you good pay me🤣

[@samanthab1923]

How much of that money will Janice see?

[@mgekelly]

@@samanthab1923 Janice is like the widow with the Virginia ham under her dress.

[@samanthab1923]

Mark Kelly Where did I hear that?

[@rwm_kazakhstan]

@@samanthab1923 she can make money under the boardwalk

[@brandondaniels9471]

@@samanthab1923 Janisshh

[@wjatube]

Under-Boss Butchie cannot give the approval to Tony or anyone to whack a boss as there has to be a consensus among the other NY families. Therefore, when Carmine assumes as boss he has a legit reason to order the hit on Tony in the final episode. Carmine played them all along and got everyone else to do all the dirty work.

[@jabronicamel1957]

wjatube?

[@wjatube]

Clearly I meant Little Carmine takes over. With Johnny Sack, Phil, and all the others gone, little Carmine is obvious to succeed for the family. His head gestures guiding Butchie during this sit-down shows willful intent that would ultimately lead to Phil's murder and to the demise of Tony for killing a boss.

[@johnnyoldenjr.]

wjatube butch would be boss carmine justbhas money in joint construction deals carmine doesnt want to die or go to jail for the mob.

[@wjatube]

Johnny Olden Carmine wanted the power but he never liked the confrontation required to achieve it. Hence, he had everyone do all the dirty work for him. Butchy is a weasle and not boss material. Carmine is legacy which means a lot to the soldiers on the street.

[@johnnyoldenjr.]

wjatube either way carmine would have to deal with confrontation. Butch is well respected

[@casyatbat]

This is the coolest location (pun not intended) for this meeting.

[@andredefrancesco7111]

It’s remarkable how great he plays a magioso in seasons 5 and 6… he was a gangster first 4 seasons

[@nikigowing6563]

Jonny torrio got over his neck ache

[@tsar389]

Best way to describe this scene is with a quote from Cormac McCarthys blood meridian. "The survivors lay quietly in that cratered void and watched the whitehot stars go rifling down the dark. Or slept with their alien hearts beating in the sand like pilgrims exhausted upon the face of the planet Anareta, clutched to a namelessness wheeling in the night."

[@rahim9nine]

Charles schwab over here

[@tsar389]

​@@rahim9ninebeautifully put

[@tsar389]

@@rahim9nine shoulda said, Walt fuckin Whitman over here

[@thechuckster6435]

a hot pot of coffee would've been great🔥☕

[@make2285]

Janice might get half of the number lol . Tony always gets his cut

[@cmccabe07921]

His taste

[@anthonyiadarola1201]

Everyone wets their beak

[@cantbanme8971]

Eh I'm not so sure, he was always keen to see that Bobby's kids got taken care of.

[@9SecondStreetMustang]

I got ya $500 for your arm and you get to keep half your route..

[@derrock375]

😂

[@fezilemkohli6844]

The location was really undignified

[@Brownismyname]

Butch : We'll come up with a number ? 100 bucks ?

[@JahmilBlair]

Phil's boys agreeing to kill em 🙄

[@mztweety1374]

Forget about water how about some hot coffee

[@JSWang-ii8kd]

The first 8 seconds could be used as a commercial for Cadillac. I am also curious what the number they come up to compensate Bobby's death to Janice.

[@nflcasual_]

After Tony died? Nothing probably lmfao who’s gonna lean on them to pay up

[@JSWang-ii8kd]

@@nflcasual_ Paulie may start feel Janice attractive and date her? LOL

[@ironroad18]

Janice got soft drinks of choice, on the house.

[@rogergarrison4271]

250k

[@nflcasual_]

@@rogergarrison4271 😭😂

[@swabbiejohn]

The abrupt cut from when the train is loudly there to the train being completely absent combined with Tony saying "one more thing" the moment the train sound is gone on screen combined with the sudden switch to wide pan shot of everyone there really drums up the suspense as if something really bad is going to happen / shooting is about to start. But nothing happens. Just a weird edit imo. The transition was poorly done.

[@SexyFace]

if you were under suspense then the writing isnt poor. I believe that every single scene in this show was made with clear intention.

[@beakahd590]

I think this was how Tony was meant to be killed. At a meeting with NY. But we wouldn’t have seen him being killed. Just driving to the meet

[@HavanaOutpost]

Anybody want a water? Soda? Any kind you like…

[@KevinAlvarez86]

This guy was the FBI agent on Donnie Brasco

[@happyirish65]

George had the makings of a varsity mediator

[@javierlav]

It's fiction but if it were nonfiction I would say Paulie and Butch have talked

[@MrHJW1995]

What exactly is Little Carmine’s job within ‘Our Thing’?

[@joshuaizly5502]

Same as AJ really, son of the boss, but he has many subspecies in the porn industry

[@bryanl3659]

rigging wet t shirt contests

[@Soxruleyanksdrool]

"Our thing"? Didn't know you were made. And your name, if that is your name, doesn't even end with a vowel. Pretty impressive.

[@nealcomstock1958]

Butchie reminds me of Sammy The Bull

[@nicobelic9034]

Why is Little Carmine there?

[@jcorley45]

What a half assed pat down 🤣

[@philliesfan1flyeaglesfly330]

Strangely edited scene with lots of ADR dialogue.

[@btf1287]

what is with the water bit? never got that

[@ericfeick4270]

I don't get it either

[@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants]

They all do not want a water and after that Lil Paulie and Paulie and the guy who brokers this meeting have a water.It doesnt make sense for the writers or director/editing to do that in the first place. Is it to show the meeting took a long time?

[@420mobskunk7]

@@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants that’s the “official” reason, but it’s chase we’re talking about, he never reveals his full hand to the audience. the water bottles definitely signify something, especially since water is a recurring symbol of both birth and death in the sopranos.

[@fernando3061]

@@420mobskunk7 Water is very unappealing when it's freezing, every one wants a hot coffee. Maybe the water ties into that birth thing you were talking about, something to do with phils life. Phil at that point may been to unappealing to save? No one was interested.

[@ThorOdinson]

Or it just shows how diminished the mafia is. In previous years at sit downs like this they would’ve been serving a fine wine or at least a hot coffee. Now they just got bottled water.

[@The_Candyman86]

After the meeting WUDEVAHAPPENEDDEEERR???

[@rosariobono6643]

It just crossed my mind a few days ago. In Paulies last scene in front of Satriales he was really against becoming capo of the Aprile crew. Why would Paulie give so much push back to Tony knowing Tony was going to be killed later that day? Makes me question the “Paulie was in on it” theory.

[@randomuser6175]

What's Carmine's deal anyway? Is he even a made guy or just very well connected? Who did he work for when his father was alive? Is he a capo or a soldier?

[@S4KCx]

If he was in a position to be acting boss at one point then he was more than likely at least a capo

[@jamestalbot9190]

Soldier but not a capo. Didn't have a crew down in Miami

[@Dr1House]

he was busy fixing wet t-shirt contests in miami

[@MikePScott624]

@@Dr1Houseand disco clubsh and what not

[@nchellcatbadboy3625]

When tony said u hit my brother in law butch shuda said sooooo that's what war is

[@corymeiners8586]

Whack a boss? I won't do that.. It's been done before. And it was wrong then

[@reinhard7572]

And just like that, people get whacked

[@jnrflores14]

i pray some chinese hackers get into hbo and the sopranos deleted scenes. maybe we can get some bonus footage on what happened.

[@chrisa3948]

Does this cold scene represent Dante's night circle of hell, which is the dark, large frozen lake? Per Wiki's Ciardi comment, "The treacheries of these souls were denials of love (which is God) and of all human warmth. Only the remorseless dead center of the ice will serve to express their natures. As they denied God's love, so are they furthest removed from the light and warmth of His Sun. As they denied all human ties, so are they bound only by the unyielding ice."

[@chrisa3948]

I just realized that in episode "Kennedy and Heidi," some think that Tony made a deal with the devil. In the ninth circle, the devil is frozen in the lake of ice. In the scene, someone pointed out that Tony looks comfortable in the cold. Is this because Tony now has qualities of the devil because of the deal? Good stuff!

[@oldmate9969]

720p isn't HD dude lol

[@possiblepilotdeviation5791]

Definitionally it is. Just look up the SMPTE 292 broadcast standards specs.

[@StickyRig]

It’s the lowest level of HD

[@chakrazulu2106]

So had Paulie already agreed to allow to be taken out here? Tony had already indicated to Pauie that he figured Paulie was the one runnin his moth to New York. Paulie was aware of Tony thinking about killing him on the boat. So did Paulie just beat him to the punch? Similar to Butch, when the hit didn't go right Phil hinted at the idea there might be violence ahead for butch for messing up. So did the two underbosses just make a deal to take out the top of each side and take their places?

[@johnnyoldenjr.]

ChakraZulu210 youre thinking to much and reaching

[@obioraabiakam1604]

No he is right. Notice how Paulie and Butch shake hands behind Tony PLUS.....Paulie was already a traitor for wanting to switch sides when Carmine was alive.

[@johnnyoldenjr.]

ChakraZulu210 I doubt it

[@jerry85g7]

Pauly gave the ok on Tony....No doubt about that. Been saying it for years.

[@robsancho3978]

Idk, I never thought of it that way. 'm not sure Paulie was smart enough to do all that. But it's something to consider now that you mention it.

[@ibramblebush]

This meeting made no sense whatsoever, Jersey had absolutely no leverage.

[@ManuelRodriguez-mg8km]

Word round the campfire is carmine had tony killed ... but let’s be honest with ourselves ... This is the weakest tony ever looked the whole show .. to me that is and in regards to these wars he was in

[@alwynsam5349]

of course..having lost so many of his people..

[@ManuelRodriguez-mg8km]

@@alwynsam5349 well that’s not exactly what I meant .. I think for me knowing now what the show is showing you and tony is still trying to act as if he has the upper hand .. demanding “ his price “ is a location on Phil not really knowing carmine is setting him up for the kill .. so it wasn’t the men he lost it was more he still wanted ppl to believe he had power when in the end he already had lost

[@alwynsam5349]

@@ManuelRodriguez-mg8km I hadn't really thought abt that possibility of Carmine setting Tony up...wouldn't Butchie need to have been in cahoots with Carmine for that to happen ? maybe not...

[@ManuelRodriguez-mg8km]

@@alwynsam5349 yes And if you watch the sit down where butchie gives up the shah of Iran you can see carmine waking around the table and go with butchie and not tony. Then tony dies

[@derekarteaga4055]

I thought Patsy and Paulie had Tony killed

[@rossiramcharitar9033]

Toni is gonna take his cut from number they come up with 🤫🤫🤫

[@rman52]

Incredible scene. Only Tony's death scene was better. The cinamaticography looks and sounds like an Alien's movie. The freezing cold used for dramatic effect. Butch looking to Carmine for approval and Paulie signaling to Tony we're good with his eyes. Fantastic. Too bad the many craps in Newark wasn't up to this level instead of the horrible pc disjointed failure it was.

[@kaj7135]

Yeah the prequel was total shit. Probably the worst gangster movie I’ve ever seen in my life.

[@rman52]

@@kaj7135 What the hell was Chase thinking? How could he sign off on that garbage. The worst episode from the show was better than that supposed movie.

[@DandifiedToe]

@@rman52 chase only signed up on it because of the Newark race riots. Unfortunately they didn't allow him to make that movie without somehow putting the sopranos universe inside of it so he went with this.

[@rman52]

@@DandifiedToe I don't care why he signed on. The movie was garbage.

[@downtoearthproductions]

Tony didn't have a death scene🤷‍♂️