Tony Soprano Shot in final episode

One of our Educational Sessions - Analysing the decisions David Chase chose when filming the last scene of the Soprano's.

[@robhealy6350]

The giveaway for Tony’s demise was in the very first episode. Dr Melphie: “what do you think happens when you die?” Tony: “I think that everything just goes black. You were here, and now you’re not...”

[@AnonYmous-gg2dq]

Never caught onto that one but this is probably my favorite interpretation of the end scene. Its worth mentioning the "shooter" has a members only jacket

[@yanceyboyz]

The give away to the ending is in the very first episode before that comment.....why is Tony at Melfis in the first place? Because he......blacks out. It starts with blacking out, it ends with blacking out and as Melfi discovered and subsequently stopped seeing him, a sociopath cannot he changed....and nothing changes, Life goes on and Tony blacked out at the end, showing nothing has changed

[@tonichecavalari5956]

Thank's ' this is well explained especially when you mentioned where the explanation comes from. Before this l allways thought the guy in the member's jacket was some how some one related to Richie . In the series Richie used a members jacket much like this hit man , same color too. Richie had this look in his eye's like if he wanted to waste Tony Soprano so fricken bad he could taste it. All in all l'm sad the show ended this way and very sad James Gandolfinni passed in 2013.

[@atrevino90]

Also that the episode is called Members Only and the guy who whacks him is wearing a Members only jacket, and also the intro song of the first Episode vaguely describes the people that dies as 7 deadly sinners while we see them on camera and talks about death

[@adrianselbst6777]

Exactly it goes black for us. We die. The audience got whacked.

[@patgogan7324]

"You probably don't even hear it when it happens.." - Bobby

[@steve8no]

But Bobby definitely heard his

[@kkiinn]

that's what came to my mind immediately

[@yishaqdavid2029]

@@steve8no Poor bobby. So innocent and nce.

[@m.bowman2841]

I think that's the giveaway that tony was killed, that statement from Bobby a few episodes earlier.

[@ibrahimkayikci2146]

Yeah, If you get shot in the head, you won't hear it since bullets travel faster than sound.

[@CanadaMMA]

This is a scene that's grown better with age. So many great shows have had awful endings. The Sopranos is one of the best in television history.

[@mornediablo7819]

No it wasn't

[@eesmith987]

Worse ending ever. Ruined the series

[@kd6836]

The ending was initially frustrating to me but after time I realized that if Tony likely whacked did we really want to see it? Did we really want to see his family killed or the reactions? Here we are talking about it 20 years later. There are definitely signs throughout the series and the episode so people watch again. It has to be hard to end a series but I’ll take this over seeing a murder or Tony’s arrest though the first time I think I had a Paulie reaction.

[@robertomunoz2395]

P E R F E C T

[@ididntmeantoshootthatvietn5012]

People who say this ruined the series mustve never watched the show at all

[@optimus]

It was the Vipers, they finally found him.

[@spartan-uo6rl]

Were the vipers

[@jeffk393]

Is that a Girl Scout Troup?

[@user-pg2fe9zy9v]

Omg loool

[@LozVegas]

😂🤣😂👌😎

[@AO-tf7cr]

How’s your incision?

[@justjaay1203]

Meadow failing to parallel park twice and then getting it right the 3rd time could represent the 2 failed assassination's of Tony until getting it right the 3rd time.

[@FinalFriday13]

Holy shi• this man a genius

[@roopan1968]

A bit of a stretch but undeniably added tension and anxiety to the scene.

[@jjenkins776]

There's so much I cant remember it all... the lights reflection in the glass which is italian for something death(cant remember) 3 failed parking attempts, 3 bites of onion rings, guy comes out of the bathroom at 3 oclock (tell pauly and tony 3 o'clock) BIGGEST of all what's Tony's favorite scene of the godfather? Tony also walks in and sees himself sitting there wearing a different outfit (outfit he was shot in with junior). Just like Chris said, you get whacked every night. Also, when tony came out of his coma, everything was white. Now its black. It's also a theory he died when shot by junior and dr Melfi is his way of trying to redeem himself out of purgatory. One more funny thing, the athletes painted on the walls of the restaurant. "Never had the makings of a varsity athlete." Also Tony and Bobbis convo about death. Chris also was killed by Tony at 3 oclock. David said if you pay close attention to the episode its ALL there. Show is so incredibly deep. You'd never be able to rewatch it enough times to get it all

[@MistaCUNextTuesday]

Bahahahahahaha what?! No

[@FORTYSHIPS]

This is what Quanon people come up with in their free time, isn’t it?

[@abelhasrisen2793]

It is 110% true. Tony was shot from a 3 a clock angle just like Christopher told him and he didn't even hear it or see it coming just like Bobby said.

[@agustasister5624]

Oh i mlm forgot that 3 o'clock thing...but wasnt that PAULY

[@jodavey]

Silvio said something similar too about everything going dark . Also it was in the episode titled "members only" now we have the dude wearing a members only jacket

[@shydawghanbowski4683]

@@agustasister5624 he was told tell paulie and Tony 3 oclock

[@everythingphil9376]

@@shydawghanbowski4683 Good catch. Maybe it ties Paulie with the hit. He really didn't want to take over the bad luck crew.

[@shydawghanbowski4683]

@@everythingphil9376 did anything bad happen to paulie at 3? What that when he was diagnosed with cancer I can't remember

[@bradforddillman7671]

True story: the actor who plays the mysterious “shooter” is actually a pizza shop owner from Bucks County, Pa. I worked at the local paper when this episode came out, and we interviewed him and he had absolutely no idea if his character was actually supposed to kill Tony. I forget the reason he was picked for the show. From what I remember, he wasn’t an actor. Pretty random.

[@troyevitt2437]

Does he rock his highschool Members Only jacket in real life? What is it with pizza guys/hitmen? The famous Viet Cong execution photo also has a USA pizza connection. The South Vietnamese America Alley killing the V/C spy would ultimately come to the USA after the fall of Saigon and ran a North Carolina pizzaria the rest of his life.

[@matthewmorelli5611]

What pizza place! I lived in bucks for about 2 years! Let me know please

[@bradforddillman7671]

@@matthewmorelli5611 I don’t remember. It was in Penndel, near Langhorne, but I forget the name

[@stevepd1]

He was selected to play this role because he was the last guy to own a Members Only jacket after the mellinium.

[@macwyll]

@@stevepd1 The guy also looked a lot like Steve Perry to me (Journey's lead singer for those who don't know him)

[@Stuart267]

Can't believe he's been gone nearly 7 years

[@robertkagan5180]

A tremendous loss it hit me hard I thought James was a great man on and off screen

[@terrancepinkney777]

It's crazy! I had the chance to meet him and Tony Sirico once, nice guys, and they even signed my box set.

[@Dhardy316]

@@robertkagan5180 you knew him?

[@CarlosHernandez-kd2vb]

@@Dhardy316 Yes, him and Jilambu Mustafa and Alibaba Rahim too!

[@haroldajenkins7487]

He was a great actor, rest in peace

[@theangryconstitutionalist583]

Imagine poor Meadow walking in the door the instant her father's head is blown off, & blood sprays onto Carmella & AJ. That would've been HORRIFIC for the audience, that's why they went this direction. One last song, one last supper (or communion), one last moment of looking at his whole family in front of him, & then the lights go out forever. Brilliant.

[@tyiase41]

Whaddya gonna do?

[@davemccombs]

That's a blunt, boring reading of the show. Whether or not Tony dies is irrelevant and not at all what Chase wanted you to focus on. Virtually all cast members and writers and directors so far featured on Talking Sopranos all believe he lived. Too easy. You took the bait.

[@Captain-Cosmo]

@@davemccombs A cut-and-paste response is boring.

[@Officialkingz1]

Remember when that New York guy got "Clipped" in front of Sil at the restaurant. The writers were certainly not shy about showing violence on screen. I don't think the audience's sensitivity had anything to do with the outcome. You know..."What ever happened there"

[@jermyhopkisn9654]

I reject the notion that David Chase chose to end the series by misdirecting the audience with a bunch of red herrings. He's said that there is an ending and all the pieces you need to figure it out are there. The signs are pretty damn clear if you analyze the last few episodes. I think leading the audience down a path only to leave it ambiguous would be silly and not his style.

[@graphitedamier3548]

“You probably don’t even hear it when it happens...” “it won’t be cinematic...” “everything just goes black...”

[@motelghost477]

Being a devout Christian and not a murderer, I'm fully expecting my world to get brighter not darker when I leave my atoms behind.

[@TheBozn]

@@motelghost477 Well that's because religion is comfort, not truth. I wish what you believe was true, I truly do. How great wouldn't that be? But I'm not able to force myself into believing something so far fetched and unlikely, without any real evidence, just because a lot of other people believe the same thing. I just can't lie to myself.. or I can, but I would never really believe it.. That said, I'm sure someday soon we will be able to create an afterlife, stop ageing or something similarily world-changing(there's no physical law, to our knowledge, saying we can't manipulate our existence). But that will be made possible through technology, not prayers and faith. So I think we should focus all our belief towards science and to make our own heaven, instead of dreaming about something not real, and waste time or opportunities.

[@crs2385]

@@TheBozn Well i can categorically tell you that i believe in an afterlife because i'm convinced there is one. Not because i'm ''forcing myself'' to. I'm not. Anything that's beyond the realm of science is considered ''far fetched'' if you restrict yourself to the scientific realm, and don't think beyond that. There's plenty of evidence of an afterlife, and the supernatural. I've had my own encounters, from ghosts, signs from dead loved ones that cannot just be brushed off as ''coincidences'', apparitions ect, and many other people have had these encounters. The problem is atheists don't allow themselves to believe in the supernatural because it's not scientifically proven.......well if it was it wouldn't be supernatural. It's funny you mention religion, and how it's a ''comfort''. Well i for one am not religious, i'm spiritual. I don't follow a specific religion, and i base my POV not on ''comfort'' but on experiences i've had, my parents, and people around the world who have had their own experiences with the other side, experiences that are beyond what science can put to bed. Oh sure, science may offer explanations for those experiences, but those explanations i find are usually weak, and are a reach in terms of fully getting to the point of the experiences at hand. If you don't believe that's fine, but don't speak for us believers, and tells us we're ''forcing'' ourselves to believe, or that it's just to ''comfort us''. There's allot more to it than that.

[@crs2385]

@@motelghost477 Here here

[@shrim1481]

​@@TheBoznreligion is for poor and simple minded people to find comfort and meaning in their lives, let them have it.

[@christoperburke8380]

And Tonys favorite seen in The Godfather when he went in the bathroom got the gun and came out and killed the guy what a coincidence.

[@forevernow9459]

And then his son avenges him. Which is what aj discussed with tony the time he tried to kill junior

[@PoliteTia]

Thank you for pointing this out.

[@IZZYp1000]

Someone on the show said “death always comes in 3s” and there are a lot of 3s in this scene. It took meadow 3 tries to park. There are 3 lights/paintings in frame when all 3 are sitting at the table. 3 lights at the entrance. 3 boy scouts. 3 attempts at Tony’s life. Tony supposedly gets shot from 3 o’clock

[@jarrydee2799]

3 deaths in a row, not 3 things lol WOW

[@Phidias1234]

3 onion rings were eaten too.

[@9wardslugga]

@@Phidias1234 🤣🤣🤣

[@tr7198]

That's an interesting observation It might be true because they changed the back of that restaurant for the scene. It's not normally like that . Maybe the guy in the USA cap He has 3 creamers with his coffee.

[@tr7198]

3 creamers with the USA cap guy.

[@james6687]

Anyone else notice that the last lyrics you hear of the song is "don't stop".... And then the show stops. Forever.

[@rickbonilla8308]

The song under it is any way you want it, which lets you decide how or if he gets whacked.

[@Revan-eb1wb]

no shit sherlock.....fucking idiot

[@toecutter1015]

Great show had to end on a Journey song

[@ydaveyyy]

Good point .

[@vinniecousinofvito6401]

@@toecutter1015 THE JOURNEY ENDED on a journey

[@dend1]

Phil Leotardo killed in front of his family. Tony taken out the same way.

[@bostondangler134]

Exactly my thinking also.

[@noelprez2895]

Patsy Parisi had Tony killed, not New York.

[@noelprez2895]

@Beetlejuice Who is "they"? Pat Parisi was the only one who knew of Tony's location because his son was dating Meadow. Pat Parisi avenged the death of his twin brother and had Tony killed, and to add salt to the wound he stole Tony's family from him, especially Meadow, when his son got with her. Tony won the war against Phil, demons from the past were the ones who got him.

[@noelprez2895]

@Beetlejuice So "The 5 Families" that never appear on the show took the hit out? Patsy didn't do it for New York, whether he was targeted or not makes no difference. This was personal, Patsy saw his opportunity to avenge his brother's death and he took it. Only he knew of where the Sopranos would be that night and no one else.

[@noelprez2895]

@Beetlejuice Little Carmine was comedy relief the entire show, he said dumb things like that all the time. Paulie didn't have that in him, he never wanted to be boss. He didn't even want to be "Captain" of one of the crews at the end and Tony begged him to take it otherwise Patsy would be Captain and Paulie hated the idea of Patsy as Captain so he acceptd. That was Paulie's last scene. Paulie wasn't killed by NY because he wasn't seen as "leadership". Patsy set it up with his son, they stole Meadow from Tony, the person Tony loved most, and then had him whacked. Revenge for killing the person Patsy loved most, which was his twin brother.

[@brinsonharris9816]

Guy wearing a members only jacket heading to the men’s room told me exactly what was about to happen, but I was surprised the way they did it (sudden black & silence).

[@croissantlover1]

its almost as powerful as if we had seen the actual scene of what happened.

[@edlawn5481]

@@croissantlover1 Even better the power of the imagines, otherwise we'd be complaining about the unrealistic special effects of Tony's head exploding.

[@croissantlover1]

@@edlawn5481 true, its not a cliffhanger but there are cliffhangers out there which are good, like Lock, stock and two smoking barrels.

[@tomwellman1757]

Some say the members jacket guy was a clue as to who killed Tony. That it wasn't New York family like you would assume but rather a friend or relative of Eugene from Tony's crew. Eugene hung himself since Tony wouldn't allow him and and his family to move to Florida after inheriting 2 million from his aunt. Certainly Eugene's family would have felt much bitterness after finding him hanging in the basement. They had the extra money to hire someone to hit Tony but I'm sure his son or other relative would gladly do it for free. Vito made fun of Eugene wearing a members only jacket in the episode where he hung himself after being rejected by Tony and that episode was titled "Members Only"

[@brinsonharris9816]

@@tomwellman1757 There’s also a shot of the front of the “Italian Social Club” with a “members only” sign in an old doc about the real mob. Doc explains the ISC was where the bosses hung out. Men’s room is GF all the way.

[@htetoo1]

One of the most symbolic parts for me were the two black men walking into diner, which was always the crew's excuse for any hit. Life has come full circle for Tony

[@metaversal]

Thank you! Been thinking this for a while too.

[@emilyh.8704]

So the meaning of the black men is what sir? 🤷‍♀️ maybe a backup for the hitman in case he blows it? ..you think Tony knew what was about to happen? He had to have known! ..I dont get the significance of camera panning to them walking in..I really didn't want him to die..😪 ..watched this brilliant show from the beginning..was especially devastated when he died in real life! Just sad all the way around 😞

[@Agentshadling]

@@emilyh.8704 It's a joke that everytime there's a scapegoat needed in the show, it's "two black guys" at fault

[@wadewilson8011]

@@emilyh.8704 No the only symbolism they represented is what you call in movies and stories, a "Red Herring." It's a placement character or object meant to throw off the audience. And I think what the OG commenter was trying to say is they always blame crimes that THEY committed on black people. It's ironic the two black dudes walked in right before Tony's killed by someone ELSE.

[@wrathchild3935]

@@emilyh.8704 If you watch the entire series, you will know "the two black guys" symbolism. It's hard to explain.

[@dustintipton3305]

David Chase made me think my cable went out. Perfect writing.

[@illustrate303]

Dustin Tipton how’s that perfect writing?

[@hullo8246]

kevin waltz why not

[@illustrate303]

Luca its a cop out is why. To afraid to write any resolve or write and good answers so it’s a way to not only not do any of it, but to write nothing at all to end it. Literally nothing but blank screen so the “fans” can write it for him in their heads

[@pauldonnelly910]

You and me -- and 60 million other HBO subscribers. I swear, that's why Chase did it: so we'd all shout WTF IS WRONG WITH THE TV in one last simultaneously shared cultural moment.

[@bigdaddytrips6197]

Me to lol I was be pissed when then happened 😂

[@rtk7233]

Rocco Demeo did it, he heard Tony had his jacket.

[@nickkairys7416]

He later died of Alzheimer’s

[@mywayrollins1642]

That was the most stupidest ending I’ve ever seen it was a great series the sopranos know Chase had it all wrong it should’ve been a different ending I could’ve had a different endings that would’ve been a way of giving the sopranos ending wake maybe there was gonna be more to continue instead of him being shot

[@thomasrose5072]

Enough about the jacket!

[@user-py6sy4zm1v]

Callback☝️

[@dandavis8300]

Nah, it was the 2 black guys. Those guys were some bad dudes.

[@maxthomas78]

An interesting analysis. I always took it that the scene was used to create paranoia. That this was going to be Tony’s life forever. Constantly facing doors, checking everyone who walked in. Never being able to rest.

[@123reivax123]

"Don't stop". The last thing he might have heard.

[@nerthus4685]

Meadow walked in and saw her father get shot in the head. Tony's last moment was looking at his daughter, whom he cared about more than anything.

[@KwisBwown]

the things is ~ it s subjective. and secondly ~ he didnt get killed. that guy in the members only jacket was ordered by Carmella. she tried to put a hit on Tony to get the family assets.

[@leonardalexander162]

@@KwisBwown Wow that's fucked up

[@khabibs.shoootrufc2297]

@@KwisBwownso she succeeded

[@KwisBwown]

@@khabibs.shoootrufc2297 not necessarily. looking upon previous episodes ~ she still never had control of or access to the assets. tony was an anaconda.

[@ladybfromnyc]

I hope it haunts her the rest of her life. I ALWAYS hated Meadow....fuckin stuckup little bitch. Honestly...if she didnt open her mouth to AJ about their dad and his involvment in the family...he wouldnt have gone into that downward spiral that eventually had him wanting to kill himself... All tony ever wanted was the best for her and his son...he just was the type of guy who grew up with the belief that a man showing emotion was a sign of weakness...and so he is forced to show his love in other ways. Granted they may not have been the best or conventional ways.....but he was the type of guy where you HAD to read between the lines in order to understand him. For christ sake he crunched a guys fckin teeth out because he spoke very crudely to her. Yeah He played it off like this guy is harmless and that he was just being an idiot cause he was drinkin....but inside....you can just sense that he was going down a list of what would be the PERFECT act of satisfying retribution for the honor of his precious baby girl.

[@terryhaircastle5702]

The ultimate collision of the two worlds he's tried to balance the entire show - his family life and his criminal life. It's the ultimate pronunciation of that, having him slain in front of them. RIP Tony and RIP James Gandolfini! A show that put the ladder up, then kept climbing beyond

[@raf7305]

People who had no brains at the time couldn’t appreciate the genius of this scene. They hated it. This show is timeless

[@jstriker623]

I guess I'm brainless. I didn't like this final scene, but not alone because 99% of fans were disappointed. After all the gruesome murders, one more wouldn't hurt, and it wouldn't make people go to analysis videos for answers. People watch TV for effortless entertainment for the most part.

[@VVguy1]

Nah, its confused at first. You are lying if you tell me the first time you watched it you knew that the cut to black was Tony's prospective because he was shot. And the way you knew that was from camera angles and symbolization.

[@captaindeadpool2655]

​@@jstriker623 This ending has kept the show relevant still to this day and will continue to be. It's a great ending because we didn't need to see Tony's brains all over Carm and AJ and the onion rings with Meadow screaming as that's the first image she sees entering the establishment. It's perfect because we basically know what happens and our story ends with Tony. His story cuts to black and so does ours. "Didn't even hear it".

[@azae00Vids]

@@VVguy1 The key to this is that it was just a memory by Tony stuck in a loop ... Tony was already dead in this scene it's why when he entered he was in a different outfit .. this was his reflection of him watching himself relive his last moment

[@berndtherrenvolk1951]

@@azae00Vids he was not in a different outfit. He had his jack get on over the same shirt. When you see him shortly afterward in the booth, you can see the jacket was shrugged off and his behind him at the bottom of his back.

[@jasonlinton9902]

I remember watching this when it aired i kept checking my watch saying theres only 5 minutes left what kind of story can we get to end one of the greatest shows in history in 5 minutes? My blood pressure was up my heart was beating faster and faster i was sweating then the screen went blank i was mad at first then i got to thinking no other show or movie has ever made me feel like that before i was just thankful we had a show that great because we never will again!!

[@tareva1]

We were holding a mini watch party at our apartment with like 10-15 friends. We all started screaming and frantically looking for the remote thinking someone turned off the cable box by mistake. My heart was POUNDING.

[@iforgotwhattosayhoffman4296]

and then breaking bad came out and we got a better show

[@meat.]

@@iforgotwhattosayhoffman4296 nah

[@InbetweenEntertainment]

@@iforgotwhattosayhoffman4296not even close

[@johnts1]

11 yrs later......David Chase still has the fans talking about the ending! BRILLIANT!!

[@marvinallen7117]

Agreed

[@j9llpx]

Yes because it was no ending.....

[@D-Mny]

Actually he accidentally acknowledged that it was a death scene.

[@myshirt84]

13 years later still trying to find out what the fuck happened.

[@poketz100]

Its funny that sopranos came out in 1999 and everybody always remember the ending more then anything and that’s what people still talk about. Then there’s the Wire which came out in 2002..another show that people still talk about..but they talk more about the brilliance in details in the show and how everything connects more then the ending itself. Which was nothing like this ending..both amazing shows that cant be replicated.. breaking Bad would be my next favorite. Cinematography on that show is something else

[@oscarmadison138]

That scene where Silvio is talking at dinner and blood sprays on his face and his ears start ringing because a guy got whacked is how they show you you don't hear the shot that kills you. In this case he never saw him coming.

[@willferrell8524]

Great analysis, mark, and i'm now convinced that you've discovered a crucial, repetitive structure to this scene by Chase. The ringing of the bell attracts Tony's attention and causes him to look up to see who is entering the restaurant. The camera angle changes and the viewer gets Tony's perspective of viewing the individual or individuals entering. That pattern plays itself out repeatedly throughout this scene, as if Chase is saying to the viewer that this will indeed occur throughout the scene since Tony is going to be somewhat apprehensive due to the recent New York resolution and wanting to ensure his and his family's safety by constantly checking who walks in that evening. When Meadow enters the final time, the door bell chimes and we, the viewer, should expect to see Tony's perspective from the same camera angle. If you watch, Tony does look up and we should now see Tony's perspective by virtue of the camera angle and we should see Meadow coming through the door. Instead, Tony's perspective is immediate blackness and silence -- there is no other meaning other than a bullet entering his skull from the 3 o'clock position.

[@landybob8393]

Ok so your comment was pretty much what we just watched. Lol

[@kato093]

Eh. I don't know. It maybe be a fake out. The scene could be just showing that Tony has to live the rest of his life constantly on his toes, scared of getting killed at any moment and...that's the uncertainty in a black screen. Will he live or will he die? He doesn't know, we don't know either.

[@xerxes2044]

@@kato093 exactly

[@bobstacks8405]

@@kato093 Chase pretty much confirmed its a death scene. It should be obvious to anyone paying close enough attention.

[@thickerconstrictor9037]

​@@kato093 Chase said in an interview that he originally planned on him dying on screen going to New York because in the show opening theme he's coming back from New York. But then he was at a little breakfast diner and thought that it would be much better if he did it there. So he was planning on killing him from the get-go but they went with the view from his perspective going black because of what he said earlier in the series about not hearing it happened not knowing it happens just blackness.. now personally what I would have done is have him look up and have the camera see meadow smile and then all of a sudden a quick look of terror before blackness. But that would make it too obvious and would take away the beauty. But he's definitely dead it's not even questionable

[@ar507]

I think it’s pretty clear Artie was behind this.. As payback for blowing up Vesuvio’s. Tony never made that right with Artie.. I knew back then that was a mistake

[@cm386464]

It was Paulie and Patsy 💯

[@ANTHONY0808able]

@@cm386464 100% Patsy, not so sure about Paulie.

[@travismiles5885]

Nah the new theory I just saw was that it was the chick Rhianna that AJ met in when he was in the hospital after his suicide attempt. One of her modeling pictures is hung up on a wall during a meeting Butchey was having with the other NY guys. She was hanging out with AJ at his house when heard where Tony was going to have dinner with his family that night and relayed the information. The family in NY is who whacked him. Artie loved Tony, he may have not forgiven him for the restaurant but he didnt have the balls to kill him

[@reflectionsofme]

@@travismiles5885 yep, just saw this too, I think its a solid theory

[@deathrager2404]

@@ANTHONY0808able paulie was hesitant to run that crew because of the pattern of them dying/disappearing. and i dont blame him. tony forcing him to get that position would hammer the final nail in paulie's decision to go along with tony going. patsy? 100 percent? you sure bro? why would patsy set tony up and in that process get shot at? patsy knows silvio is loyal as can be so sil also had to go and patsy would still hang around silvio? and get shot at? common.

[@CokeZeroHero]

bobby baccala told tony when there were on the lake when it happens you probably wont see it or feel it

[@Sevv9220]

Perhaps him looking up is symbolic of him being aware. Him being aware, from the first episode, has been one of the things that kept him alive. He was either ahead of the curve and/or just being aware of what could happen. He didn't often get taken by surprise and when he did, he got out of it alive. I think he lived.

[@xmanrules2001]

Sevv9220 No he didn't live. The darkness is him dying. But he's either in limbo or reliving this moment in hell everyday. Always waiting to see Meadow, but dying before he can. In season 2 episode 11, I think, Chris said , while he was near death, that his father has to relive his last day of his life for eternity, always losing a card game to the Irish and then getting whacked. At the beginning of this scene Tony walks in, looks around and all of a sudden in a split second he's sitting down.

[@philshinebox680]

However, that turned out to be not so true. Later on in that same episode, Bobby was tasked with killing the French-Canadian in the laundry. We can see that not only did the victim feel it, but he heard it coming. Same with Bobby's death, he heard it and he definitely felt it.

[@Jalapablo]

Yeah but Tony supposedly took an execution-style shot to the head. Instant shut down.

[@SuperGrimupnorth]

+PhilShinebox true that

[@SeamHead33]

All 3 at the table popped the onion ring on their tongue like a communion wafer. The last Supper

[@justinacevedo2012]

Wow, so true

[@gboogie360]

Niiiiiice

[@yanceyboyz]

Tony blacked out. That’s how it started, that’s how it ended. Nothing changed, just as Melfi’s notes said it wouldn’t.

[@SeamHead33]

@@yanceyboyz you mean Dr. Melfi? she can write all the notes she wants, doesn't mean TS didn't get shot in Holsten's.

[@yanceyboyz]

SeamHead33 yea don’t know why it autocorrected that. Anyway, what’s more probable a guy who blacks out in the first episode and every season, blacking out or....wait, there is no evidence for anything else. You probably don’t hear it when it comes, from bobby? One line versus how many blackouts? Melfi ditches him because the article read that he can’t be changed, the perfect ending to the soprano’s is that he blacks out, its full circle.

[@adamwatson6916]

Remember Christopher's dream when he was in a coma and he was told to warn Tony about 3 o'clock . Tony was shot from the 3 o'clock angle.

[@ryanroad1646]

@Technicolor Vision when the bell rung and Tony looked up to see who it was the Hitman could've been right there at his side.

[@JohnnyBGoode215]

The end of The Sopranos and the end of Breaking Bad both haunted me for a long time. I guess that's a sign of the quality of the shows.

[@MJ-fj9yv]

True, you want both men to live and go back to the way it used to be. But can’t….time came and went….never to return. It’s over

[@JohnnyBGoode215]

@@MJ-fj9yv yessir.

[@jali1]

You should watch the wire. Masterpiece of a show full of details. By hbo as well.

[@mornediablo7819]

@@jali1 and way better than Sopranos and breaking bad

[@jali1]

@@mornediablo7819 definitely agree.

[@fenrirvov6580]

I remember my my mother screaming OH MY GOD MY TV BROKE!!! Ahh the little things

[@troyevitt2437]

Me and two other schmoes watched the finale at a strip club called the "Bada Bing" in Goose Creek, SC. We all wore track suits, no shirts under the jackets, with two of us wearing crucifixes and the third a St. Christopher....and we cursed like sailors...sorry, Big Guy.

[@barbaracronin4164]

I screamed that!

[@conjai]

In this scene WE WERE ALL TONY! We didn’t even noticed the missing bells, we got as comfortable as he was, then... Nothing! Simply masterful manipulation of an audience!!!

[@SylenceIsbliss]

He wasn't comfortable

[@peaceindarkness.darknessis3494]

He really did have a presence about him that he sensed danger, at first he seemed irritated by the door opening so much. Risk. Fear ? ? I think the black dudes initially made him nervous

[@downtoearthproductions]

The ending was trash.

[@mxdmag2553]

The giveaway for Tony’s demise was in the very first episode. Dr Melphie: “what do you think happens when you die?” Tony: “I think that everything just goes black. You were here, and now you’re not...”

[@_nay__]

For some reason, I don't see the significance of the Bells. But ppl speculate the hitmans bell rang because he was a key factor in the ending. I just dont see it. I think that's what they wanted us to believe.

[@MasterOrona]

I always liked the theory that Meadow was his guardian angel and she didn’t make it this time. Also I read a theory about how the onion rings, being a huge hole were symbolic for gun shots. But who really knows.

[@starshiptrooper4506]

Three gun shots. Meadow is the sole survivor. She will not carry on the family, which is why the birth control discussion is significant.

[@wortguy2]

The onion rings were the best in NJ. That's why they were there!

[@thickerconstrictor9037]

Haha guardian Angel? That's so stupid lol

[@MasterOrona]

@@thickerconstrictor9037 hey man I didn’t make it up and I’m agnostic but it seemed to fit here and there. So that’s just like our opinions, man.

[@joshuafult84]

@@thickerconstrictor9037 bro they basically just mean a good luck charm lol

[@alduin7546]

This is amazing, the amount of thought and symbolism and effort that went into this ending is absolutely astonishing in every way

[@alduin7546]

@Harry Thotter & The Chamber of Thots Very unpopular opinion that millions would disagree with but you do you, also I honestly don’t really care what you think

[@stephaniecodd4562]

@Harry Thotter & The Chamber of Thots most definitely it was trash.

[@alduin7546]

@Harry Thotter & The Chamber of Thots No I don’t care about your opinion I responded because I care that you tried to tell me yours and have me care and listen to what you think when I really don’t care. Additionally you can not like it that’s whatever but saying no thought went into it is just retarded, like where did you get this info? Why are you so enlightened, were you on set when this was being filmed, where are your sources? Just a bs statement made with absolutely no context or reasoning because you simply don’t like it

[@alduin7546]

@Harry Thotter & The Chamber of Thots Also you know it’s not surprising, there will always be haters for everything because people just can’t handle positivity, they just need to be mad about something, but what is surprising is the fact that the people who do all of this hating just simply have no reason for doing what they do, like why is it so important to you to comment and try to soil my opinion about something as minor as a TV show? Like I honestly don’t get it lol, I’m simply expressing my opinion of enjoyment of the ending of a TV show where many others are doing the same and for some reason you can’t just pass that by instead you need to be negative. It’s actually amazing how ridiculous it is. I’m not denying your right to express yourself either, I’m just questioning why you need to target my positivity with negativity on such a simple subject for no reason. It’s quite interesting in a weird way to be quite frank

[@topdollarblackpillgangster4908]

I support this theory but I think there are two other things to consider. 1. Coming otta men's room blazing is subtle reference to the Godfather scene...kinda let's you know what's next. 2. Meadow parking is significant because she fails three times but gets it the fourth time...just like previous attempts at Tony's life.

[@RumbleFish69]

Well thought out, but I gotta disagree. Tony had more than three attempts made on his life...(1) The black guys tried to whack him...(2) Junior tried to kill him...(3) Artie also tried to kill him...(4) Pat Parisi tried to kill him...And, if you count the times that Phil Leotardo and Richie Aprile put hits out on him, that's a couple more. Shit, I think Feech LaManna would have eventually tried to take out Tony too! Tony always had a target on his back!

[@jodavey]

The whole season told the story that Tony gets killed. The members only episode. And then this dude wearing a members only jacket. That's not coincidence. Tony is dead. The members only episode is when bobbysays "you probably dont even hear it" And silvio once zaid " everything just probably goes black"

[@RumbleFish69]

@@jodavey Where do I begin with all the nonsense in this comment? First, it's Bobby that says you don't even hear it, not Silvio. Just the fact that you don't know that warrants the rest of your comment null and void. But beyond that, you miss the point of all the entire "did he, or didn't he die" bullshit behind this. Viewers should not have to go back episodes or seasons to try and decipher whether the lead character is dead. Do you know what solidifies whether he died or not? A fucking bullet to the head that everyone can see! A bullet makes it pretty goddamn clear no matter who said what!

[@jodavey]

@@RumbleFish69 do you know need to talk to somebody. Do you need a hug?. You seem so angry. It was a fucking TV show chill the fuck out

[@shydawghanbowski4683]

@@RumbleFish69 read it again he said Bobby said that he just couldn't spell worth crap he said Silvio said everything goes black

[@briancollopy3084]

You missed the most important thing. When he walks in, the bell rings and he sees himself sitting at the table...he’s haunting his own death site!

[@jamesriley5305]

Christopher said in hell his father relived the way he got whacked in real life every night and it was painful...was Tony reliving his murder, the worst part in front of his family...painful in more than one way!

[@yanceyboyz]

He didn’t die. He blacked out. First episode he is blacking out from panic attacks. Last episode he is blacking out from panic attacks. Nothing has changed, just like melfi said it wouldn’t when she rejected him.

[@BasedNj]

Somewhere Sunday he usually gets dizzy before tho it doesn’t just immediately black out

[@kevinmcdonald6477]

@@BasedNj The alternate ending has the bell ringing and Tony suddely wakes up next to Suzzanne Pleshette. Or he's s in a steamy bathroom and Bobby Ewing is towelling off in the shower.

[@nolovelost3981]

@@yanceyboyz the producers confirmed he was killed in this moment

[@youreadisgracepod]

7:42 holy shit after all the mentions throughout the series, the two black guys finally make an on-screen appearance!

[@JeepersCreepers12]

Hehe oh yeah, those guys

[@user-pg2fe9zy9v]

Which two black guys did he mention?

[@TheMILFandCookies]

Pretty sure Tony and AJ had a great scene with black people that now lived in the old neighborhood LOL

[@johnsheppard5257]

@@Dman3827 itz actually an inside joke because whenever they are having to be "witnesses " to a crime they always say "it was these 2 black guys." But usually they didnt say it so nicely.

[@seanm8063]

As an Australian chap who's loved this show since the late 1990's, I've always worried about the two Black fellas at the end. I've always felt that Tony was proper ambushed by all sides ... Black, White, Haters, and Scum. Meadow's inepitude was neither here nor there. Yet, she probably walked into a blood-bath :(!

[@Kardaszpm]

It was the two black guys!

[@spaceorbison]

You totally missed that "this magic moment" was in the list of songs for the jukebox.. that was the last song played in the episode where Bobby tells Tony "you probably don't even hear it when it happens".

[@fireballrobbie1744]

That's right ,I believe he said that to him on the boat.

[@redwoodgaming9028]

SpaceOrbison N.

[@RCsFinest]

@@upstreamcapital I'd love to get my hands on the script for the last episode

[@hahdhsjsjrkfn]

He didn't even hear it when it happened.

[@thejam7129]

willie billie they wouldn’t give away the truth that easy

[@happenstance1893]

The clink of the bell always told me it was Tony’s “bell tolling.”

[@cliffdivingmonkeys8430]

He didn't get shot, they just ran out of film, geesh... :-)

[@VWGTI2013]

Or nowadays, memory.

[@gapyrodawg5181]

David chase came out this week and said he was infact supposed to be shot. They got Phill in front of his family, and the same was happened to Tony. According to chase they actually shot that scene and decided not to use it.

[@tyiase41]

The majority of the show's viewers concluded that Tony was shot dead in this scene

[@milne1985]

The door bell ringing is the same sound as when bobby is talking to tony about not knowing when it's going to happen on the lake. There was a bell on the pontoon

[@Crusade11722]

Ahhhh.. you found a good reason for that bell pontoon scene

[@fallout766]

The Vipers did it

[@Hollywood2021]

The Girl Scout troop?

[@tommysoprano1441]

Meadow is a horrible driver

[@LipstickNWhiskey]

Postman206 No the motorcyclists him and CHRiS robbed..

[@Hollywood2021]

ßARBiE KiLLER when they said "You know who we are? we're the vipers!" Chris said "what's that? Your Girl Scout troop?"

[@MsLH208]

fallout766 lol!!!

[@Thepharcyde4ever]

The creator accidentally admitted that Tony did indeed die. I'm surprised that so many people never realized that he died.

[@SwissMarksman]

What do people think that type of life is? Like being a CEO and the only threat you have is that some insurance broker wants to shake your hand when you're out eating?

[@wmonger]

In one interview, one of the actors stated that the scene was a little longer in script and the "members only jacket guy" had another scene after the bathroom but David Chase edited it out. I believe Tony died in the end.

[@joshuaramirez5779]

For all the copolas ,Kubrick's, and Scorsese's in the comments THE SERIES ENDED yeah get a life

[@christinecarr7524]

booo. Maybe you should get a life and stop enjoying everyone's fun.

[@ebookjapan8054]

The camera was going to follow the Jacket guy out of the bathroom until he got near Tony's booth where it would have ended.

[@edlawn5481]

@@ebookjapan8054 It was perfect the way it was.

[@thejay3804]

Yeah because it was mentioned somewhere that a scene was filmed of him walking up to Tony.

[@fredfat1606]

i think you miss the key point here - note Tony sees himself in the Diner - this is the loop that christopher talked about i.e watching yourself get whacked every night - tony is in hell

[@LipstickNWhiskey]

I thought this too! Like how did he sit down so fast? So I assumed he’s watching this over and over because this is what he last remembers. Good comment

[@ikon8275]

Holyshit your right, Christopher said and how you get whacked the same as you did in real life over and over at the stroke of midnight....woah... That's terrible if he did die what a terrible hell to have to relive getting killed in front of your family for an eternity.

[@dragonchr15]

Not just in front of your family, but just as your daughter, the one person tony would die or serve jail time for, walks in and sees it... I hope HBO leaves this alone and never creates a spinoff, prequel, or sequel series....

[@marley9194]

HBO Should have done a season 7 5years after the sixth season

[@richardramirez3805]

@Rusty Climber lame*

[@wjatube]

Without the staging of this scene as described here there would be no suspense nor perceived threat. To make sure we bought into the ruse David Chase even threw in a Godfather bathroom reference just to make sure. Chase wanted to keep all options open on this ending in the event of a movie. Period. Sadly the real end of this amazing series occurred when James Gandolfini died.

[@mxdmag2553]

The giveaway for Tony’s demise was in the very first episode. Dr Melphie: “what do you think happens when you die?” Tony: “I think that everything just goes black. You were here, and now you’re not...”

[@i-god7782]

Cause truth be told if James Gandolfini hadn’t died(R.I.P) the sopranos was gonna be a movie after that last episode with Tony on trial by the FEDS

[@yurikendal4868]

@@i-god7782 that ending would have been a bit much. The series was basically over when Phil was killed as there is nothing left of the Sorprano crew.

[@PeeboTyson]

3:48 To be honest, the bowl of onion rings were a more important character than A.J. was.

[@SeamHead33]

the onion rings were like communion wafers at the last supper. look how they placed them in their mouths

[@davidgriffiths7696]

SeamHead33 🤣

[@fortylove68]

Truth is the actor and character both ended up being little bitches.

[@SeamHead33]

@@davidgriffiths7696 its true. Watch it. They don't bite it like u normally would bite an onion ring when you put it in your mouth. They place it on the tongue like a wafer

[@vonmilash823]

Aj was a terrible character played by a terrible actor.

[@variousJnames]

Perfect ending to one of the most superbly written shows ever!

[@BreakingBadFan2008]

What's better written than The Sopranos? And don't say Breaking Bad

[@j-money2295]

Ozymandias Breaking Bad

[@BreakingBadFan2008]

@@j-money2295 Just because it has the greatest episode in the history of television doesn't make it better than the greatest show in the history of television. Because everyone knows that there'd be no Walter White without Tony Soprano

[@j-money2295]

Ozymandias Ok? Your point is

[@henryesp9284]

Its a horrible ending. They should of shown tony getting shot and not this stupid ending

[@randalrichardson4019]

Members only jacket, was a dead giveaway

[@rickbonilla8308]

Yea and dude in members only jacket looked just like Eugene who Tony was the reason for Eugene taking his own life.

[@agustasister5624]

@Chris McDonald no.

[@manuelbolt9945]

@Chris McDonald what did paulie say about members only jackets?

[@caseyporter499]

Vinnie Provolone true. Foreshadowing

[@ZPD-doo-DAH]

@Chris McDonald It was Vito that made the wisecrack, after he had lost weight.

[@BigNasty21]

I've never hated and loved an ending so much

[@whollypotatoes]

I think you're right on the money with this analysis. I think that one of the most disturbing things about The Soprano's portrayal of the life is the sociopathic detachment leading up to a murder. So many times, the tone in the car ride is jovial and status quo. Then a guy gets whacked. We only see it from an outsider's perspective, so we see the killer's detachment and lackluster reaction to death. We never really consider the experience of the deceased. Chatting with your friends, then darkness. Abrupt, unpredictable, disorienting. Tony got whacked like all the rest of them.

[@shawn372011]

The shirt Tony wears in this scene looks like the one he was wearing when Junior shot him.

[@LipstickNWhiskey]

IMO this whole scene already started with Tony BEING DEAD. remember when CHRiS said he saw his father in hell and he had to relive his death and losing a poker game to the Irish? I believe that’s what happened here, he’s reliving his death hoping to see Maddow

[@dirklerxstpratt2112]

Barbie Killer, he can turn on MSNBC if he wants to see Maddow.

[@deizelthemotivatedtruckerd2440]

SHAWN HOWARD so you saying JR had something to do with it?!

[@agustasister5624]

@@dirklerxstpratt2112 thats MAD COW...NOT MADDOW

[@garrymiller3171]

@@agustasister5624 who happens to be a Rhodes scholar. Little better then orange man wasting Daddy's money

[@sfletch3042]

The true meaning of the ending is THIS! David Chase left it up to the viewer to decide bc he WANTED PEOPLE TO KEEP TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR YEARS TO COME. He is a genius! This was the end result and has been since the show ended. Brilliant!

[@mxdmag2553]

The giveaway for Tony’s demise was in the very first episode. Dr Melphie: “what do you think happens when you die?” Tony: “I think that everything just goes black. You were here, and now you’re not...”

[@jcjones1750]

I have always felt this way . Some of you have good points even the video itself but the way this was shot was the best way this could have ended......the way you wanted it to. If you always thought Tony would get wacked.....well he did. Some of us didnt .....there is and never will be proof anyone of us was wrong.

[@charlie4339]

Paulie is now the boss of a skeleton crew. They never had the makings of a varsity family

[@doraran5158]

This was one of the most innovative endings of a series. The hackneyed and cliche ending [avoided here] of the character, bloodied, lying on ground, with some goofy song plays in background, while camera zooms out implying 'life leaving body' is a typical 'film school' handling. Walter White's demise in 'Breaking Bad' did not maintain the creativeness of series. By contrast Tony's demise did compliment series. Chase deserves credit.

[@phildirt3]

Walter whites demise way more satisfying for us mentally handicapped

[@doraran5158]

Film schools teach movie making for the 'mentally handicapped'.

[@71M3L4PSE]

you basically described the ending of boardwalk empire (which i loved) lol

[@jeffamb]

Yeah, at first I couldn't believe it, I had to rewind it a few times to make sure what I was seeing was the truth. I hated it. I couldn't believe they would end a series like that so abruptly with no closure of anything. However, the more I thought about it, the more I realized that if you were to get shot in the back of the head, that's exactly what would happen. You would just be sitting there having dinner with family, then the next moment, just nothingness. We were experiencing this scene as Tony and it kind of gives me the willys that things can just turn off that fast for each and every one of us. After realization of what happened, this ending made me feel a unique emotion that I can't say any other series ending has and for that reason I think it's a really good ending. I liked Breaking Bad more than the Sopranos but BB's ending was pretty predictable and didn't really make me feel any unique emotions like Sopranos' ending did.

[@codename617]

And then funny thing is, people still believe that Walter White might not be dead.

[@momichaux5054]

Meadow never had the makings of a Varsity parallel parker...

[@xxnativexx-ttv-]

When Tony walks in the restaurant he was already dead if you notice he wearing a different shirt and the rumor is that he’s already dead and watching his final moments over and over again like purgatory

[@joshfulcifan1015]

Such a sad ending in a way, we went on a "journey" through all these episodes with Tony. I guess he pissed off too many people.

[@skyguy1988]

oh he pissed off A LOOTTT of people

[@edlawn5481]

Pretty much his whole crew was gone by then, especially Silvio.

[@unapologeticallyconservati5881]

“He’s got no respect for this thing!”

[@parapalazula3935]

its very sad but so realistic, this is why I love this show.

[@goodyeoman4534]

Jimmy Smash whacked him, in revenge for when he was a kid being made to sing Mac The Knife by Tony and the popular crew...

[@KC_604]

How do u know ? I was tryna find out what crew wanted to Wack him

[@305donkryder8]

He used to go home and cry himself to sleep!

[@stephen6435]

Jimmy Smash 😅

[@stephen6435]

@@KC_604 the only crews that were in the sopranos were Sopranos, The Aprile Crew, and New York, I think The Luppratazi family??? I guess Carmine, Johnny Sac, then Phil ran the 6th NY family.

[@stephen6435]

And Jersey was a "Glorified crew" as Carmine and The "Shah of Iran" once said!😅

[@experienceprecision5406]

The one show that could of lasted 30 more years

[@jayhandron9435]

Your opinion makes a lot of sense. I like how you meticulously analyzed the last scene, explaining how you came to your conclusion.

[@coreydean6540]

David Chase just inadvertently confirmed in an interview that Tony Soprano was killed.

[@ryneredington]

Link or it didn't happen

[@coreydean6540]

@@ryneredington here's one. Try Google. people.com/tv/sopranos-creator-accidentally-reveals-what-really-happened-to-tony-in-series-finale/

[@ryneredington]

@@coreydean6540 Thanks. It was probably a fake accident and he wanted it to leak out. I've known 100% for years that Tony is dead.

[@watching789]

The guy who owns the diner who played the supposed killer stated thay tony was not killed was jut supposed to look that way chase wanted a death scene when johnny sac was still alive but changed his mind

[@sprinkle581]

This is not true. At all. It's pretty clear based on the interview transcript that he was talking about plans for a completely different scene that never took place.

[@headshot6402]

I believe where it says journey "don't stop believing" and "anyway you want it" is literally telling fans anyway they want it to end it ends.

[@colinclarke4285]

Head Shot did you notice that the selectiin of songs on the juke box were songs used as end themes on previous episodes?

[@kakarotlifted7302]

Great point.

[@bartolomeestebanmurillo4459]

It would be the perfect ending for a guy like Tony, being ended like he ended so many people.

[@clintzuleger8918]

At least the guy waited until after Neil Schion's guitar solo to do it. 😆🤘🎸

[@phineasbogg9404]

David Chase gave us the ending of The Sopranos. He didn't leave it as some sort of "mystery." Theorists have come up with a million 'possibilities" as to what what REALLY HAPPENED but that's the genius of it. Chase simply killed Tony off and everyone ran wild with OTHER theories. creating a sort of worldwide hysteria. And THAT in itself was genius. Because we were given the ending, but simply refused to accept it.

[@fredo7540]

People say it’s a shitty ending but when U think about it it’s one of the greatest endings ever

[@schmidtyism9670]

Lol it’s really not though

[@vivelagauche3564]

Yes stupid americans say it's shitty ending... They are like 12 years olds who want "an ending"...

[@masonf7332]

@@schmidtyism9670 let’s see u make a better ending u queer

[@VVguy1]

It's good when you know what it means and most of the time that happens after you get confused on what just happened the first time you've seen it. Somehow makes it a memorable scene. It's a good ending just weird that it wasn't visual and made more of a unique route because they could've easily shown Tony getting shot dead, everybody is horrified and end credits.

[@rickpelkis4880]

other lesson is......eat at home!

[@fatyowls]

Highlighting the fact that women can't parallel park..

[@MaxwellsDemon9]

wow this thread is teeming with incels

[@Danceeagle9725]

Bruh I can’t parallel park

[@jeffreywinsor350]

The suspected assassin is also wearing a "Member's Only" jacket, the kind Eugene wore. This is significant in that it also implies he's a "member" of the criminal underworld.

[@kato64]

Richard Ramirez, the infamous “Night Stalker” serial killer, wore a ‘Member’s Only’ jacket as well. A real-life connection to murder.

[@kingndanorth]

Captain obvious ova here

[@hackwilson1467]

Furio orders the hit. He was in Love with Karm.

[@gorillone86]

Furio knows better. The Furio/Carmela west side story was bullshit and forced into the script god knows why. Furio was a top level enforcer of the Italian Camorra, not some pigmy Jersey thing glorified made man. He was an OG. He won't throw away a career for a mumbling broad.

[@lotsofthisandthat9791]

My theory has always been that Furio was balling Carmella while in the States and not just in his mind. There are several clues to substantiate my theory. Chase left the subtle clues, without actually showing Furio and Carmella balling.

[@connoisseuroftigolbitts]

That guy looked like furio

[@thebaddog4104]

Stupida fakking guy

[@dabfan3644]

Chrissy warned Tony “3 o’clock” that’s the shooters angle coming out of the bathroom. It ties together so well.

[@mrfurio875]

Dab Fan why didn’t he just say “ your right side “ or summat like that

[@getdadoe5135]

The entire last season was a foreshadowing (the cleaver movie was the biggest giveaway) and remember what Bobby said to Tony on the boat "You probably don't even hear it when it happens right?", and that’s exactly what happened in the end, Brilliant.

[@Pbadome1]

The transition from Tony entering the Diner and sitting down gives the impression that it should be understood he was seated by a waitress. Yet, it appears that he's watching himself instead. I can't tell if under his jacket whether or not he is wearing the same shirt, but I feel that he was already dead and just watching this moment afterwards.

[@greatsajby9266]

Tony looking up and seeing himself at a future moment was an homage to the end of 2001 where Bowman looks across the Victorian room and sees his future self.

[@FiveSigma72]

Also the last thing you hear is the bell being a reference to for whom the bell tolls.

[@paulgeorge1238]

The man is credited as man in members only jacket, go back to episode 1 of this two part season titled for members only. There is the final as every sopranos title had deep meaning. Read the credits carefully to the final episode, no other patron is credited in detail.

[@bobriedel3277]

As David Chase himself said after the finale......"You want to know what happed? It's all there, if you paid attention to the details...." So, I would suggest re watching the whole series. There was that episode where Tony, Bobby and the wives were at a lakehouse (the episode where Bobby beats the crap out of Tony) and the boys discuss "probably never hearing it" when you get whacked and when Tony is down by the lake smoking a cigar alone, he keeps looking up at a docked boat that has a similar sounding bell as the one in the diner. I wonder how far back these episodes with clues go?

[@gunsnstuff4040]

Fuuny. David Chase actually said Tony was not "Whacked".

[@shootereli8753]

James Thomas Rains Jr you have no proof he said that

[@gunsnstuff4040]

@@shootereli8753 Google it and you will see...geesh, I'm not fucking making it up...

[@rfahy72]

Huron Valley Plumbing Co actually in a recent interview he admits that Tony was killed.

[@gunsnstuff4040]

@@rfahy72 Where is THIS interview? Provide your exact source.

[@joshuahand407]

I always thought Meadow switching birth control meant she'd get knocked up, and like her pops would become a family woman and the boss. Seeing dad die is all the motivation she needs.

[@horrorfiend7694]

You dont mean a organized crime boss right? I'm pretty sure females aren't allowed that power. I think you just meant the boss of her family but I wasn't sure.

[@KB4QAA]

Josh: There are at least four other reasons for her to take BC pills, including menstrual problems, acne, PCOS, or hormonal problems.

[@edlawn5481]

So basically Tony was probably going to be a Grandfather.

[@jefftheriault5522]

There would have been nothing to take over by the time she was ready to. According to other snippets, the New York organization was looking to move in, like boardwalk empire.

[@Professional_Lube_Job]

@@horrorfiend7694 Lol v

[@nugofgold9097]

members only jacket for designated hitters plays a big role. just like the one Eugene Pontecorvo wore on his last hit

[@colinsilver1041]

So why didn't Tony notice the Jacket?

[@SeamHead33]

@@colinsilver1041 you can't bat 1000, luck runs out for everybody

[@greatsajby9266]

Also on the topic of jackets, remember when Tony dissed Richie Aprile's attempt to honor him with a jacket? Another full-circle moment.

[@glock16]

I heard about this scene for decades, everyone always made fun of it but man once I saw it with all of its context, it just left me feeling sick and sad.

[@johnherbert1431]

It hasn't even been decades bro lmao

[@ericawhite3725]

This many years later..I see this and it makes sense.DAMN

[@jcampezzi1027]

They couldn't show him being shot. Just in case that was a miracle followup season or movie.

[@wildchildren8834]

The best thing about this last episode is that much like death, you don’t get to decide what happens. It doesn’t matter Eh what are you gon do about it

[@feralproductions9445]

I always wondered why they all eat onion rings like communion wafers. Hints to purification before death.

[@shanemac5366]

How in the hell do you eat onion rings? I eat mine exactly as the Sopranos did. What, do you fold yours in half or put them vertically into your mouth?

[@aa697]

Think of Michael Corleone going to the bathroom in the Solozzo scene.

[@spartan-uo6rl]

Goddammit if I had a wartime consigliere I wouldn't be in this mess

[@aa697]

@@spartan-uo6rl 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@johnnyzeee5215]

The man in the jacket, who sat at the counter, and went into the men's room, had a gun hidden there, and would then shoot Tony, as Michael did in the restaurant, in ' the Godfather.'

[@jarrydee2799]

No reason for that. In the godfather, they were searched before the sit down, meaning a gun had to be hidden earlier because he would not have get into the sit down with a gun. Anyone can walk into a diner with a gun, no need to have it pre hidden in the bathroom

[@azae00Vids]

you missed a KEY part of his entry ... Tony is watching himself relive his last moment ... that's why when he enters he's wearing something completely different from watching himself sitting down .. otherwise the other points are spot on

[@MartySeeks]

It’s great to see someone who lives by the sword die by the sword symbolically speaking.

[@mrnegatively5125]

Every time a bell rings a angel gets his wings, so Tony got his wings.

[@markmccreary9605]

If he shot tony he spoiled that whole order of onion rings. OHHHH!

[@montyhall3082]

Meadow set Tony up so she could run Jersey 😂😂😂

[@deathrager2404]

it was revenge for jackie junior, and alot of other things. nothin we could do about it.

[@montyhall3082]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@LouieOcean2]

Meadow was a made guy tony wasn’t

[@berndtherrenvolk1951]

Her headquarters were set up in The Meadowlands.

[@javierluna56]

This was a really good explanation. I think you got this spot on. Many of us thought he had gotten killed, but the scene happened so fast that we did not see all the details as clearly. Great job

[@cpal1871]

Chase recently confirmed Tony’s death in this scene. Your theory was spot on for many years. Great work sir!

[@tappedout9033]

Chase didn’t confirm that

[@ubt3606]

He didn't confirm it, he was talking about another ending he created in which Tony got whacked. Chase was known for creating multiple endings

[@corephoenix3249]

@@ubt3606 actually he confirmed

[@corephoenix3249]

@@tappedout9033 he did it

[@ubt3606]

@@corephoenix3249 not really. It was an alternate ending he planned prior to the one shown.

[@Joeybago12]

I gotta tell ya, my estimation of the guy in the members only jacket just F’n plummeted

[@assmunchtube]

He was already dead here, just reliving his final moment over and over like Crissy told him that his dad experienced in hell every single night.

[@experienceprecision5406]

Nope, when Tony was shot by his uncle Heaven accepted him but he chose to go home. He's in another coma.

[@berjaboy]

While I agree Tony was killed here, I still find this scene a little perplexing. Tony obviously saw the hit-man and if we in the audience saw this guy as being suspicious, Tony must of saw it also. In fact his "radar" must of been off the charts with this guy. Yet he did nothing to protect himself, and even if he simply didn't care anymore, he still cared very deeply for his family. So why would he allow his family to be in the firing line? The hit-man could just as easily taken out the entire family while taking out Tony. Putting his family in this kind of jeopardy just doesn't seem like him.

[@iradagrey]

He just won a war against Phil Leotardo. Half his crew was taken out, and the war was over in his favor. Makes sense that he wasn't worried. The only person who knew where they were gonna be was that girl AJ was with. Phil ordered the hit before he died and it never got unordered.

[@josephfacundo26]

Actually it was Butch who order it since he had the most to gain...

[@dcsquared69]

When they all went to ground Tony very specifically said the quote "you know they don't come after family that's the rule" to Carmela

[@johnherbert1431]

​@@dcsquared69I always remember that too. The writers wouldn't throw that in without a reason IMO