Mirrorless Camera MYTHS

[@shipwright6122]

Best part about Mirror less cameras is that the best used DSLRs are affordable now. 🙏🏼

[@palmtreewhisperer]

😄 Yes and just wait till 2024 ! They will be easily under $500 haha

[@FlatWaterFilms]

Price is going up on the 5D IV, if you can find them new.

[@skip70]

dude! don't let them know that!

[@Fantastika]

You can get teh sony a5000 for under a 100 eur which is a steal

[@EpocaLibera]

After watching you for a series of years I can say that: You are the best and most serious bloggers about photography. Sorry to say that the majority of bloggers do not share information, they rather try to draw attention. And this is completely different. Tony and Chelsey, you do share a lot of useful information and thank you for this!

[@qedsteve]

I'm a D850 shooter and I approve this message. I Picked it up primarily for underwater (and I still have a LOT of Nikon glass) and am now "investing" a large amount of spare change into underwater housing, strobes, ports for my DSLR and one of my "go-to" lenses is the 16-35 but in the housing with the dome port, the size is NOT an issue. I have come to LOVE the viewfinder with back button autofocus for ALL situations - especially underwater. Yes, I do need a viewfinder extension that magnifies the viewfinder (older eyes... sigh) and I cannot USE touch screen underwater so I fall back to my manual film camera "muscle memory" in setting the shutter speed and aperture. This works well for me on dry land as well. Resale? Schmeesale! I'm still shooting Pentax 6x7 medium format (and processing my own film) and slice up my own Minox subminiature film from 35mm stock and load the teensy cassettes in the dark bag. Still have a few Nikonos amphibious cameras and lenses. It's a film-fetish, don't be hating.

[@robertdavis1255]

Thanks for sharing your views.... As a hobbyist photographer at 77yrs old I am still happy with my D500 & haven't considered upgrading yet..always enjoy hearing about new gear... Cheers..

[@jarrod7465]

On the whole size thing, I think the main benefit with mirrorless bodies is weight not size. I know while my A7Riii isn't that much smaller than a 5D iv, it certainly weighs a fair bit less 657 grams vs 890 grams and when you're carrying it around all day you do notice. It's a 200 gram difference and yes I am aware that professional glass is heavy but the net reduction in weight is awesome. Especially if you're carrying two cameras all day for a wedding or something, with two bodies it's a weight reduction of 400 grams which is nearly half a kilo. Nothing to be sniffed at. Also the size reduction is mostly in terms of depth of the camera because no mirror is required. The smaller depth means the camera is easier to store in a camera bag. I can fit 3 mirrorless bodies in the space that would be needed for 2 dslrs.

[@Travelagent]

I used Sony DSLM for a very short time because the dust(spots) on the sensor drove me crazy. Under harsh conditions/in harsh environments (e.g. deserts and tropical jungles) they were just more or less useless! I now switched to Pentax and bought the new Pentax K3 Mk. III and all I can say is: This camera is an absolute dream to hold in your hands and an absolute fun to use! This camera has the ruggedness I need for my kind of photography! By the way: My favorite photographic shop was (and still is) completely surprised by the demand in this camera. The first batch was sold within 2 hours, the second (larger)batch is already sold, too but there are still 76 cameras on the backlog! Quite remarkable for a company that is said to be "doomed" by so many people...... ;-)!?

[@RonEMarks]

Another aspect to consider is that mirror less is still growing and fast! So the Sony camera you buy today is blown away by the next Sony in sometimes as quick as 6 months to a year. I switched from Canon FF and went to the Sony A7II. It was exciting but the AF was horrible. 1 year later, I sold it at a huge loss and bought the A7III. AF was better but the battery life was still dismal compared to the DSLR cameras. I finally jumped ship and went back to Canon FF DSLR. I am glad I kept my L lenses. I am back to taking photos and not chasing the ever changing landscape of latest greatest wiz bang features at substantial financial cost. I prefer to "focus" on composition and exposure. Photography has gone from a skill and art to automated tech. I am griping and I know mirror less makes many people happy. To me, it's just another marketing distraction to get our money. Aperture, shutter speed and ISO (or film speed) are all the settings I care about. Peace :)

[@NickClare]

The most important thing a photographer must do is learn how to take good photos regardless of whether you have the latest and most expensive Mirrorless camera or a relatively inexpensive DSLR. You need to take the time to learn how to make the best out of what you have. Too many aspiring photographers seem to think that if you buy the latest most expensive camera your photos will automatically be better - nothing could be further from the truth. The great thing about the movement towards mirrorless is that a lot of really good DSLR cameras are coming on the second user market and you can pick up some fantastic gear for a fraction of the price. I still use and love my Sony A77ii and Sony A99, they can produce some great photos, and I have got some superb Zeiss lenses for about a quarter of the price of the new mirrorless equivalents. Anyway, thanks Chelsea and Tony for another great informative video.

[@JohnDrummondPhoto]

As a migrant from Canon DSLRs to an R6 and R5 (in that order), I can say that both mirrorless models are way better than the DSLRs that they have replaced. But almost none of those advantages are related to the absence of a reflex mirror. Canon just decided to put their best tech into their new mirrorless bodies and the lenses that go with them. The R5 and R6 are measurably lighter than a 5D Mark IV. But other than the faster FPS, full-screen AF points, and eye AF, it's hard for me to think what Canon did with the R5 and R6 that they could not have done with the 5D series. had they chosen to do so.

[@fricki1997]

I just bought a Pentax K-3 ii last week. I don't need to create good videos, and I still have many manual-focus lenses. If I want better image quality for landscape photography, I can simply use Pixel Shift and get about twice the effective resolution, and I'd much rather have a good grip and many buttons that are easy to reach than a touchscreen. And noone can beat the functionality of the K-3 ii at the same pricepoint even today. One major advantage I see in mirrorless is their ability to adapt almost any (DSLR) lens due to the flange distance.

[@domtomazo]

My Pentax K-01 also covers the sensor with the curtain when it is turned off :)

[@swistedfilms]

Regarding the Eye AF: if I was a wedding photographer I would want this as bad as I want my next breath. Moments fly by in a ceremony and getting that aspect sorted out would free me up to look for the moments.

[@longliveclassicmusic]

I thought that too, but most wedding photogs actually use spot AF because in a crowded ceremony, often the focus will switch to the wrong subject. With dual pixel AF where no "focus point" is less accurate than another, they can move the point to wherever the eye is and shoot in servo. Touch and drag on Canon makes it way easier to do so than the traditional joystick method.

[@aliendroneservices6621]

@@longliveclassicmusic Subject tracking on Sony.

[@JaydenEricBeaudoin]

@@longliveclassicmusic on my Canon R6, I set two different focus buttons - one for spot AF and the other for Eye AF. Solved all my problems.

[@andy.photoandfilm]

@@longliveclassicmusic i love how fast and responsive the canon touch focus is...even with the M50 (my choice for a compact camera for free time shooting). If my A7III, which I use for weddings just had that performance.. the joystick and touch is so clunky and slow it hurts.

[@argentum3919]

@@andy.photoandfilm This is interesting from a real photographer. I keep reading that no one can hold a candle to Sony's AF. So in reality Canon's is more ergonomic?

[@sshus924]

I sold my Canon 5 D MK IV for the R6 and overall I am pleased with the R6, but for top quality and ease of use I sometimes miss my. 5D MK IV.

[@Astronobob]

I bought my wife an R6 because, while she liked my 5dm3, she always had a hard time with "chimping" and not registering that with a dslr, you don't have a "wysiwyg" experience and would get a lot of over/under exposure and it would ruin her experience. With the R6, it's fast, responsive, and she gets the picture that she sees and is much more likely to actually pick up the camera and go use it. (From my perspective the R6 is an amazing progression of tech from even a good dslr and now I am jealous of my wife's camera)

[@skyrunr]

That person is NOT out thousands. Maybe 10% at most. Good vendors have excellent return/exchange policies. There is a huge demand for ML cameras and lenses due to the out of stocks. I sold my 4-5 year old f-mount gear (well kept) for very respectable prices and most within 72 hours! I even sold some Z mount glass for near MSRP. It was cheaper than renting, and it takes me more than a few days to get used to near gear. I say help that person out, buy their gear, and have a giveaway. ;)

[@timothylatour4977]

I was thinking the same thing. Rent the stuff for two weeks and then decide. You don't need to pay thousands before trying it out.

[@daviddrake8433]

I am a closet photo gear junkie and I've been thinking about "upgrading" to a mirrorless camera for quite a while now. The problem is that I have a Nikon D850 that I think is just fantastic. I do not do video or action photography, just landscape, nature and technical (I am a retired geologist so you can guess the subjects.) I keep asking myself exactly what would I gain by getting a new mirrorless camera. The answer usually comes up as not much. But I want to thank both of you for that fine analysis of just what I should expect going with a dual photo equipment style. I do not intend to give up my D850 since everything I see online confirms that for my type of photography, I have already arrived.

[@patrickroe3260]

I have been a photographer since I was about 12 years old. As I got older my cameras got better, my knowledge of photography increased. As an adult, I went on to get a degree in photography. That didn't make me the best photographer. What it did do was give me better problem (photographic) solving skills. Solving problems didn't require updating equipment, often. I think a lot of the hype of mirrorless is to benefit companies that make gear. Photography has become less of a hobby from manufacturers point of view. (Cell phones) Mirrorless became "a shot in the arm." It did so be being hyped about things that aren't necessarily true. As an example size, maybe weight. The manufacturers have been able to make smaller cameras for a long time. Examples: the Olympus OM-1, the Pentax ME, MX. When photography was more popular for amaturers, makers could make them as they saw fit. When camera sales began to slump, camera makers needed something to really increase demand. Hence, the mirrorless camera. Humans are kind of herd animals- yeah let's get a mirrorless camera. The problem being mirrorless cameras are still being developed. They're teenagers if you will. If the features of mirrorless are truly solving problems for some photographers now, great. I think that for most users, however, it makes little difference. I also think there are still improvements that could come to dslr cameras. Do I have a mirrorless camera? No. I will when it really becomes necessary. When I am not paying so much for the R&D. I have 4 Canon bodies, 11 Canon lenses. All of these are in very good condition. They do what I need them to do. When they don't, mirrorless may be the way I go.

[@robertbohnaker9898]

Are parts availability and servicing support going to continue on discontinued DSLR cameras ? That’s my main concern. Thanks. You didnt address that issue.

[@peconicgp]

Upgraded from a 5dIV to an R6 and love everything about it! Maybe 5% of the time I miss the more megapixels but I knew that going in. In every other way I love the R6. My transition to mirrorless has been very pleasant!

[@MundtStefan]

Thanks a lot. After watching your video I may wait another year and keep using my 6D mki.

[@AntisocialBY]

Thanks for the podcast! The missed (imho) parts of the podcast: 1) most of newer mirrorless manufacturers introduced wider lens mounts, which means more light can come in, so the lens design is different, which opens opportunity for newer and smaller formats, like Canon RF 50mm is simply tiny and weighs about nothing. As for older mounts - some new design appear, like recent 28-70/28-75 lenses from Tamron and Sigma, ~1/3 of price of original, 90-95% of image quality, and ~2/3 of the weight (Sigma 28-70 is 470g vs 835 of Sony 24-70, and most users would not be upset about losing 4mm on the wide end). So with the market shift towards mirrorless - newer gear in general is smaller and lighter. 2) AF quality and speed - Nikon D750 cannot compete with Sony A73. Sony is much faster and accurate, and both end up dropping in price a lot, so for the non-pro general-use folks - Sony would be a better pick. 3) The main benefit of EVF - realtime preview of the image, not what an eye sees through the glass, what the sensor actually gets. 4) Getting back to the high quality cameras - one doesn't need to purchase top of the line gear, there are much cheaper options that $6500 Sony a1, even in Tony's guide :) like Fuji XT-3, or Sony 6xxx series, or Nikon Z50, all are crop, but solid cameras. When talking sport/birds there is Nikon D500, which is probably better, but for an amateur taking photos of family and friends - Fuji/Sony would serve definitely better as general purpose cameras. 5) And regarding the resale value - non-pros would often lean to cheaper (and oftentimes 3rd party glass), and this glass is loosing it's price rather fast. Personal experience of selling of my Nikon gear - most of the glass (in perfect condition, used for 1-2 years) was sold at ~50-60% of the retail price. And manufacturers often discount older gear, which drops the prices even lower. 6) Primary purpose of purchasing the gear - for hobbyists - there is no sense in buying 3-5-7 year old camera, as the technology advances all the time, and 7 year old body with a kit lens will make images comparable to the top of the line smartphone. At least from the non-pros perspective. 7) With people buying phones for $500+ (and upgrading them every 2-3-4 years) - investing $1-2K in the camera is not a bad idea. 8) Each and every case is different.

[@timothylatour4977]

T and C have a limitless budget for gear. Now and then they mention lower cost options, but invariably in the second breath they remind everyone that the cheaper gear is not very good. They're not the only ones -- all the pro gear reviewers do this. After every video you're left feeling that unless you mortgage your house you can never shoot with the gear they recommend. Everything I can afford is "good but not great." The images are "pretty sharp but not really sharp." And so it goes

[@AntisocialBY]

@@timothylatour4977 Well, I split "users" from "hobbyists" and from "pros". In most cases "users" won't really notice difference between different shots, they care about the end result of smaller print, or photo viewed on phone/tablet. Hobbyists will have Gear Acquisition Syndrome, trying to upgrade all the time, and even when the image quality is just 1% better and not visible - they'll try to upgrade, pros - well, that comes from business, and when money is not a question - they buy. I know a family of photographers who still shoot on Nikon D3's (12MP cameras). And it works for their business. For myself - the biggest jump in photo quality was purchasing the Nikon 35mm 1.8 DX (crop one) for D5300. It was a major jump in image quality from the kit lens. 😁 Years later, I won't consider cheaper bodies as they just can't keep up with the type of photos I take, same for lenses. But looking back at photos from D5300 - they are good, but not the best, as you've said.

[@Luis-hx6ed]

Hi Tony and Chelsea, I upgraded from the Canon EOS 6D to a Canon EOS R6. The only drawback for me was battery life, even though it was not a disappointment. Other than that, everything else is awesome on the R6: the viewfinder, AF system, double card slots, frames per second and even video, that I rarely do. I will say though, I compared files between these two cameras and I wish the skin tones would be fixed via firmware, because they sometimes tend to get a little yellow/green. Files are much easier to work with on the R6 - dynamic range kicks ***. And the RF lenses are just a whole new league, 24-105 compared, at least. Thanks for the video!

[@2liakada]

What makes me skeptical about the new generation of lenses (on all the new lens mounts) is their dependency to be controlled by camera electronics. For how many years will camera firmware support them? They can't be used afterwards manually with only camera controlled aperture. I'm afraid the recommendation to buy valuable glass because it last's for generations of cameras ist not valid any more. Lenses got disposable items and aren't long lasting investments now. Which decreases the overall system value.

[@animefan73]

"Planned obsolescence" could become a real issue, for the exact reasons you've outlined - I would be absolutely beside myself if my camera manufacturer decided to stop supporting a favorite lens of mine with a firmware update, rendering it an extraordinarily expensive paperweight. (and thereby tanking any prospective resale value)

[@zvxcvxcz]

We're going to need to reverse engineer protocols and get proper digital adapters.

[@JacoboAmaro]

You are absolutely right Sir. If I ever switch to mirrorless I would keep getting DSLR lenses for that only reason.

[@Rainism969]

Go for Leica M. Problem solved.

[@timleahezra]

Different, but kind-of case in point, old Nikon lenses with AF driven by the body (requiring body support) are no longer supported by newer cams. On the contrary, though, old Canon lenses with lens motors and camera-controlled apertures still work just as well (AF and Aperture + lens IS if included) on my EF-M camera with an adapter as they did in 1987 or 1997 on an SLR. Electronic support is needed, but provided. But, just as Apple is building redundancy into their computer equipment, any of them could. You're really always at the mercy of the manufacturer or third-party support if you want to upgrade. Until mirrorless, old FD lenses were paperweights unless you shot film; there are always ways for them to make things hard to use or unusable if they want to. For cameras, though, if they drop support for the old, there is a better chance that you switch to a competing brand, so you have a better chance of support. Just like EF on EF-M. A little off-topic, but just saw a Techart pro adapter in a KZbin vid that autofocuses manual focus lenses by adjusting flange distance and has its own aperture. Never knew such a thing existed, totally wild. Where there is a will, there is a way.

[@michaelkokot6349]

Love my Canon R6. When shooting sports the ability to track across the entire sensor is amazing. One example is shooting softball with a batter that is a slapper is very difficult with a DSLR. With the mirrorless R6 shooting from a side profile as the batter quickly steps forward if they move out of the center of the frame the mirrorless tracking is more likely to successfully stay with them. With a DSLR you are more likely to have focus change to the background when this happens.

[@robh9442]

Both of these comments are coming from the point of view of a Canon user (so keep that in mind, as I cannot directly hands on compare to other brands). "Mirrorless is smaller" The point was not far off... however there are some exceptions. Compare the R series to the equivalent camera, and there is a noticeable shrinkage (i.e. the R5 to 5D). Glass on the other hand is all over the board. That generalized point is spot on. For glass it's more that they have new possibility of lens constructions to take advantage of. For example most of the Canon RF L glass is not smaller than the EF (without EF+Adapter) such as the 50/1.2L. The example given was a bit ironic as the RF 70-200/2.8L is much smaller/lighter than the EF version. "It's easy to switch to mirrorless": There were 2 points made on this... hardware (right away) + usage (most of the topic). I disagree on the hardware aspect. Many Canon users are getting better results with their old lenses with an adapter. So one of Canon's strengths is making it easy for users to bring their lenses with them. Agree on the usage aspect... however that can be said about going from any camera to any other camera. Rest was pretty good.

[@kamilpotato3764]

Most of m43 bodies and lenses are smaller than dlsr… even smaller than a lot of apsc

[@liamjewell62]

I agree with alot of the things you mentioned and thought it was a great video as always, however, I just wanted to point out that eye af isn't only great on high-end bodies, cameras like the sony a6100 have sonys latest af system, and thats in a $600 camera.

[@Eihei]

Also you can get A7III already quite cheap, and it may not be great in ergonomics, but the AF and image quality is still amazing. Also all the "hurr durr switching to mirrorless is so expensive" is only partially true. Yeah, if you use Nikon as an example. But just look at Canon. Get the R6 and your old EF lenses will actually perform WAY better through the original adapter than on any Canon DSLR.

[@cooloox]

@Cowsayspow62 I agree with you 100%. Even the cheap Canon RP has fantastic eye AF and tracking. After several firmware updates it works from a long distance and is very sticky and accurate. DSLRs were nowhere near as good (especially using fast lenses, wide open) as they did not have eye detection at all. They'd just focus anywhere on the face.

[@kencarnley7101]

No mirror less for me. I am 73 years old and retired. I like my cameras to be big and heavy. And then there is the Nikon F2. If I get attacked. While using it I can take it by the strap, smack them in the head. Then take a photo of attacker.

[@timothylatour4977]

Ha! I'm just a bit older than you, and I think you've hit on something. Especially if you're walking the streets of NY! Never mess with an old dude with a big clunky DSLR!

[@diviance42]

I jumped up from a 600d to an a7ii. My main gripe is the sensor being exposed all the time when I switch a lens (especially outside.) Other than that I have loved the massive increase in capability I gained at a reasonable price point. I do have to say that most of my lenses I had for the 600d were decent m42 lenses I could easily and cheaply convert to FE. I have invested around 1200 euros in 2 loawa macro lenses (15mm f4 wide angle, and 100mm f2,8 2x macro) and they are incredibly versatile. BUT! You can get these lenses for most mounts and honestly that versatility can be had on most bodies. I think it really just comes down to what glass you intend to use, and how you weigh some of the draw backs and benefits from mirrorless. The learning curve for me would have been high going for dslr or mirrorless anyways having had a 10+ year old camera. So I figured I might as well learn what probably will end up going to be the new standard.

[@michelthebassplayer]

Well thank you for the clarification on some of these myths but I for one I need gonna change what works for me DSLR I like to compose without having to turn n the camera to do it, Also I like seeing things outside of my frame while shooting since I often shoot in crop mode even with a Nikon D7200 crop camera (I shoot 1.3x crop of that) fro added range to my telephoto while retaining enough resolution for a nice picture That I would have had o crop anyway in post. Seeing the lines inside the viewfinder & what's outside these lines is very valuable to me. So I'm saving my money & keeping my DSLR.

[@zvxcvxcz]

I think you actually can do that on some mirrorless cameras.

[@simontrezise8495]

Your views seem to be angled towards the high end and full-frame cameras. I moved from DSLR to mirrorless several years ago with the Fujifilm X-T20. In a few respects it was inferior to my faithful Nikon D7100, but for its compactness, the joy of the EVF, and the photography-oriented controls I was an immediate convert. There are several mirrorless cameras with cropped sensors that are economic and attractive alternatives to DSLRs. We don't all need or want the Canon R5s and Sony A1s.

[@brianludwig180]

Brilliant video - I'm keeping my 6D mk2 instead of getting the EOS R. Happy to wait till things inprove.

[@colinjohnson3019]

What a well presented unbiased opinion for and against mirrorless and DSLRs. I'll keep with my DSLR for the moment and may even get a second body.

[@cooloox]

I think this was a video made to make everyone happy. If you had a similar level mirrorless to your DSLR, got to know it, you would not want to go back. Mirrorless creams DSLRs and that's coming from a die-hard DSLR shooter from the SLR film days.

[@aussie8114]

I’ll give you my DSLR when you pry it from my cold, dead hands 📷

[@gemasboy]

😂😂😂

[@davidroberts6766]

I have not transitioned to mirrorless per se, as they are an “in addition to” my Nikon D850 not a replacement. That said, the more I get comfortable shooting with the Z6 and Z7II, the less I live in the F mount ecosystem. For now, however, the D850 remains my deep winter camera. Its a beast. Ultra reliable. The EVF sensor that allows me to toggle between screen and viewfinder on the Z simply gets too fogged up to function properly at -20C temperatures. Super frustrating. The other 10 momths of the year, I love the mirrorless. I find I bracket less, which saves time when editing, neutral density filters are a breeze, and the eye autofocus is great for capturing photos of quick and erratic toddler granddaughter. Its a steeper learning curve than I thought, but well worth the effort.

[@Daeva83B]

Hobbyist here, not even a serious one for that matter. Not so long ago i bought a mirrorless. Sony A7ii with a tamron 28-75 f2.8. I'm happy with it, think it's a good choice and it's my first full frame camera, before i had a canon g7x ii (compact) in combination with a underwater housing. And even before that i borrowed for a small year a canon d1000. And that is basically my photographing experience with actual camera bodies. The quality and the sharpness of the canon was something i missed even though it was an aps-c sensor, just like the g7x, but that one didn't even come close to the quality of what the dslr gave me. Anyway, the A7ii surpasses them both :) I am impressed My only 'tiny' regret is the lens, i underestimated the size of it. And starting to realize, that A) the lenses are more expensive then aps-c lenses and B) Size.. But.. i am a sucker for quality, to be able to crop (zooming in) and see every detail is something i guess i am willing to pay for. Not to mention the bokeh, almost like bubbles and everyone loves bubbles.. hehe :) Anyway.. i went for mirrorless, not simply for better.. but for the future and smaller/tighter, read somewhere that because the lens can be closer to the sensor it's beneficial for the image quality. Since i am new, figured it was better to invest in a 'new' system. After long thinking and contemplating, i choose for sony. I like the in body image stabilization and figured with 3rd party lens developers there would be enough choice eventually. Also with the low amount of different body to lens mounts, i figured it's a 'save' investment. That i would never run into the trouble of a different mount type. I don't know.. just a new guy trying to figure out the maze of companies, lenses, mounts, Dof's, stops, shutter times and iso's. hehe

[@marcoss6212]

Sometimes I think I'm an old fashion guy but mirrorless does not convince me 100% yet. Started as a hobby with the D70, D90, to the D7000 then D500 and 2 years ago purchased the D850. I'm quite please with it and I don't see any mirrorless giving me better photos. Upgrading to it because mine is loosing value? Nope, if you talk about market value, maybe. But what that camera gives me, even being 2 years old, that the value I give to it and I'm an open mind tech guy. Thank you for the video!

[@skyrunr]

Given that Nikon isn't releasing new DSLR gear anytime soon, I hope I'm wrong, and the shelves are being cleared of DSLR's, I think you're quite safe from depreciation! Not everyone needs that much sharper that what f-mount provides. PS NEVER show your wife photos of themselves at 100%. LOL

[@marcoss6212]

@@skyrunr That's right, NEVER! LOL

[@noelchignell1048]

Good video again guys except that an 800mm f/11 wouldn't work well as a DSLR lens as few DSLRs can focus beyond f/8 but mirrorless cameras work well with small apertures

[@Olivyay]

My first interchangeable lens camera was a mirrorless (a Sony a6000, which I still use) so I can't say I upgraded from DSLRs, but I upgraded from smartphones and point-and-shoots and I still had expectations about upgrading to a 'true' camera, and the things that really disappointed me with my a6000 were: - the EVF lag. It's really frustrating for fast action like motorsport. It can be done (I got some nice shots of superbikes and single seater open wheel formula cars, but only at slow-medium speeds) but I had to learn to compensate for the lag myself and therefore force myself not to rely on what's actually displayed on the EVF, which is a difficult mental exercise. I know newer mirrorless has gotten better at this, but I rarely can find actual measurements on the lag in reviews. - the (lack of) power saving. I'm not talking about the battery life itself while taking photos, but the body is just dumb when it comes to saving power. For example the 'standby' mode really is a power off mode: it takes as much time coming out of it as it does when turning it off completely and it resets the lens' power zoom, so I don't see a point to it. You can manually assign a button to the "turn screen off" function but it just does that, turns off the rear LCD. There is no intelligent standby where it would turn off the sensor and put the CPU in a very low power mode where only one button would wake it up while not e.g. reset the lens' power zoom so it's instantly usable when you decide to take it off standby. This point is rarely talked about in reviews so I have no idea if newer mirrorless cameras have gotten better at this. I remember a friend buying a Canon APS-C DSLR at the same time and its standby mode was much better: he could set the timout to a very short time in order to save power, and it would come out of standby much more quickly than my a6000. - the small grip: I have long fingers (but hands not that big overall), and it's not as comfortable as I wished when using it for a long time. I know the newer ones are much better for this, so when I eventually upgrade it will be nicer. Note that the depth of the grip really is the only disappointment for me, I don't really mind only being able to hold it with 3 fingers instead of 4 and I wouldn't want a bigger camera just to be able to hold it with 4 fingers. I had other disappointments, but they are not specific to the mirrorless format so I won't include them here. I don't really mind the small battery life, because while I won't say I love having to swap batteries and remember to charge them, I prefer having replacement batteries in my bag or pockets rather than a bigger battery in the camera adding to its weight.

[@stevechan5569]

Thank you for the candid and factual review/talk/discussion. Cheers!

[@cooloox]

Mostly factual, some opinion. You do not need a high-end mirrorless to out-perform the autofocus of a DSLR. Absolute BS. You need a high-end DSLR to match a cheap mirrorless from Sony or Canon.

[@stevechan5569]

@@cooloox Agree

[@amazingbollweevil]

I saved for a year to replace my aging 5DIII with an R6. It doesn't trigger my portable strobe system! It doesn't trigger my studio strobe system! It doesn't have a PC cord attachment! Now I have to replace my portable strobe system and figure out a different way to trigger my studio strobes. Tack another $500 to my purchase, arrrggghh!

[@Julian_Kurt]

I worked with the 5d MK III for years and loved it. Had just a couple problems. Focus Problems with some of the lenses. Front-focus on my 70-200. I hated to correct it manually and adjust all of that. It was big and steady and would never break. I didn't liked that there was no video auto focus, flip screen and for mountain use its just to big for me. Took it with me across the alps, not the happiest I have ever been. Switched to the a6500 and absolutely hated every single thing about it. The worst was the usability with gloves and the battery life. Just (2 Month ago) got me a used EOS R and I love every single thing about it. Yes it has only one SD card slot, yes 4k crop and yes no 20fps in 50 mpx. But for me it's perfect. Lighter than the 5d. Just as good image quality and amazing video capabilities. Love to use my old L- glass with the controls ring adapter. Photos look stunning and the usability is great. Hope everybody finds the perfect camera for themselves. thx for the video

[@btnhstillfire]

Manual focus beats AF all day everyday.

[@markusdammasch9108]

I bought a Sony A77ii after watching raving reviews about the spectacular auto focus and tracking etc... that was disappointing but I used several Sigma Art lenses and thought some of the issue may have come from the slower lenses etc... So thankful that the newer full mirrorless cameras are right on point with focusing speed and accuracy etc.

[@b1ackjacky]

I switched from canon 7d to Eos R - it’s amazing!

[@johnadams3038]

Can’t wait for shutterless cameras, the only remaining old part that needs to go away.

[@aliendroneservices6621]

Sony a1ii

[@timothylatour4977]

Maybe we can eliminate the need for light, and then we really will be happy! :-)

[@johnadams3038]

@@timothylatour4977 What?

[@timothylatour4977]

@@johnadams3038 A joke.

[@johnadams3038]

@@timothylatour4977 Yeah I assumed that but it didn’t make sense lol

[@Strider_Shinryu]

Very much in the wait and see camp. If money was no object, I do see enough benefit in the mirrorless world to upgrade.. but that's really only in the top tier of mirrorless right now. Looking purely at what I would consider affordable, I just don't see a big enough leap from where I am now with my DSLRs. And it doesn't help when it feels like new mirrorless cameras and tech are being introduced every few months. I want to upgrade, and I'll almost definitely make the jump in a year or two once things have settled out and there are more affordable options with the good tech but, for right now, it just doesn't feel worth it.

[@ytr8989]

🙋‍♂️ 😱 I have become a mirrorless user as of today! I received my Z50 earlier this week and it’s a ton of fun to use. My DSLR is going on the shelf. 😎

[@roscoebookbinder5370]

Great reason to buy the Porsche, have fun and not lose a ton of $ to depreciation. Older ones are actually appreciating, but there are issues with maintaining an older car but the fun factor is huge.

[@carlmcneill1139]

I had to replace my d750 after it died from a wave at the beach. I wanted to stay with Nikon. My choice was between the d780 and the new z6 II. I wasn't even considering the z6. The d780 actually costs more than the z6 II. They're nearly identical on the video side but not on the stills side. I watched many videos on the z6 II before making a decision. The benefits outweighed the drawbacks so that's what I went with. The eye auto focus may not be the best compared to other brands but it is much better than trying to use a single focus point on the d750. I very seldom get a shot out of focus now. There is a learning curve as you mentioned. I'm still learning which type of focus to use and when. One of the things I like about the z6 II is the box you can put on a person so it will track that person better. You can configure the EVF and LCD screen in different ways. You can have it set to just use the EVF, use just the LCD screen, or use both. These options can help save battery life. If my camera is on a tripod and I'm not using the EVF I can just have the LCD screen on. Silent mode is awesome! I took pictures at my daughter's play last week. I had to keep checking to see if it took a picture. I would like to have a white box inside the EVF around the outside of the screen that flashes when the picture is taken in silent mode so you know it took a picture. I love having the histogram displayed in the EVF. You probably know about light defraction with lenses because of the distance to the sensor in the older type lenses. They have to put more elements inside the lenses to focus the light in the corners so they're not too soft. With the phlange distance on mirrorless being closer to the sensor they can design the lenses better to give you sharp images corner to corner. They haven't perfect mirrorless cameras yet so DSLRs do have certain advantages but the number of advantages are shrinking. Oh and you didn't mention the firmware updates that the mortified systems get to improve them that the DSLRs don't get.

[@EdwardVanMeter]

I switched from (or rather I complemented) my Canon 6D Mark II to a Canon R3 - I have had no issues with the image quality or speed advances using my EF L series lenses including the EF 50mm 1.2, my EF 70-200mm 2.8 L series, my Tamron 150-600mm, or any of my other L series lenses. Although I do not have older EF lenses so I have not loss fps issues that the older lenses have as indicated by Canon. I enjoyed your segment, especially as I am considering migrating to Square Space.

[@levi6859]

After months of debate and research I am upgrading to mirrorless for night photography and sports. Not that a DSLR can’t do the job because I know that I can but mirrorless is something that I want to experience and what I have found fits my budget. this video was pretty helpful though.

[@JdTV79]

I switched from a Nikon D600 to a Fuji XT3 18 months ago. I kept my D600 for a few months, as going from DSLR to Mirrorless was quite a change for me. Once I managed to feel 100% comfortable on Fuji, I switched completely. I still miss the low light capabilities of a Full Frame dslr, as I do concert photography and I need good low light performance, and also the battery life on the XT3 drove me mad until I managed to find a 2nd hand battery grip. But boy oh boy, the autofocus system alones makes up for all of the other shortcomings. And the video capabilities, so powerful and yet so easy to learn.

[@jessieg8851]

Great points👍🏻 honestly this makes me think of film vs. digital photography. Like literally you guys if you go down a rabbit hole on KZbin you will find people still saying film is better and a more artistic way to shoot photos, so let’s all take a deeepp breath 🫁🧘🏼‍♀️

[@SteelRiderCarl]

I hear film v. digital from some people, but I dunno... maybe more like an older automatic transmission versus a CVT or dual-clutch.

[@lbeetech]

At least with film cameras you had to know how to take pictures, digital photographers are just graphic artists for the most part...

[@Adriana.Gabriela]

@@lbeetech with digital you still need to *know* how to take good photos. Not everyone with a camera is a photographer

[@lbeetech]

@@Adriana.Gabriela You would think, I'm just not sure anymore...

[@greyhoundrick5568]

The sharpness of the Nikon z lenses is noticeably better than their f mount counterparts in my opinion. Have shot a lot with both.

[@AS-oz6ep]

Went from a (borrowed) 60D (had not been shooting with a “real camera” for a long time) to a R6. So.. it wasn’t necessarily just DSLR vs. mirrorless, but 10 years of advancing technology as well. And I love it. The eye AF, when it works, allows me to take better pictures much more easily. But as good as it is (when it works, it seems like magic) it’s not infallible. It’s frustrating when it just won’t pick up the subject and you lose the shot. I do wish the native lenses were less expensive, but adapted ones work just fine. I’m sure I’ll add to my collection as time and budget allows.. but the 24-240 is a good Jack of all trades lens that I intend to keep on my camera most of the time while travelling. The one disappointment with this lens is.. inexplicably and never mentioned in any of the reviews I watched/read.. the multiple exposure feature of the R6 body doesn’t work with this lens. Why? I have no idea, and I haven’t been able to get an answer anywhere. Is there a legitimate technical reason? Or am I the victim of the infamous Canon cripple hammer?

[@mucklark6943]

I wanted small and light for bike and backpacking therefore MFT was the logical choice for me. But basically now DSLR vs. Mirrorless is just a question of personal preference. Size and weight is really the only reason to go mirrorless but then MFT.

[@charlygoehring6155]

That is a good video for you pros. How about comparing the a6100,6400 6600 and it's competition vs DSLR. In other words, top consumer-level cameras. I'm biased, I just upgraded from an a6000 to an a6400 fwiw/.

[@timothylatour4977]

With few exceptions T and C are not interested in consumer-level gear. They live at the top of the heap.

[@jackychuplis9512]

I am so happy I got the D850 after you said that. I love macro photography so I need all the sharpness I can get

[@engjds]

He did compare it to the mirrorless Nikon though, its not the best mirrorless.

[@Powerstroke98]

@@engjds - Best? The best camera out there...is the one you own! In the end, they all take good photo's, some have more options of course...just like a car, so what is the best car....the one that takes you from A to B.

[@engjds]

@@Powerstroke98 I was of course meaning technically at this present time available for sale. Though I do agree that far too much emphasis is put on gear, when perhaps it only accounts for just a few percent on the outcome, with the far larger percentage coming from skill of the photographer. Not all cameras take good photo's though), would you really use a 3MP camera these days? Could you use that in a commercial shoot or wedding? nope, so its not really taking you from A to B is it? ).

[@magottyk]

@@engjds Seriously you think that the Nikon is less technically advanced just because their mirrorless autofocus (particularly eye af) isn't quite at the same level as Sony and the more recent Canons. Yet the Nikons offer advanced video features like 10 bit N-log. Now eye af isn't all that there is to auto focus and DSLR's still hold the advantage regarding normal focusing and the D850 and DSLR's in general will be better than all the mirrorless because of the off sensor phase detect system they use. Admit it you just wanted to hang shit on nikon rather than have anything useful to offer.

[@engjds]

@@magottyk On the contrary, I used to own a D300 and loved that camera, build wise they are top notch. My point is, Nikon and Cannon are akin to the Swiss watch manufacturers ignoring the digital watch evolution, Nikon and Cannon should of been right at the forefront of technical innovation but instead ignored the mirrorless for many years so are now producing cameras a few years behind Sony for the majority of their product range. Imagine all those switching over, losing their expensive glass just because Nikon didn't react to the market fast enough, they screwed their customer base by reacting rather than identifying the market trends as they occurred. As such many have lost faith in their ability to innovate, I for one will be sticking with Sony and investing in Sony glass, once bitten twice shy.

[@takuan650]

For travel and street photography I find the mirrorless option far more practical. Slower types of photography like landscape and architecture which involves a certain degree of creativity are well served by both systems and it comes down to personal preferences. I use both systems and don't really miss much in that regard. There is so much choice these days for all budgets.

[@spidersj12]

I own the Canon EOS R and the sensor is covered without a lens attached. You can enable shooting without the lens attached, i.e. the sensor uncovered, but that's for something like attaching to a T-ring and telescope OTA.

[@JohnDrummondPhoto]

Also, there are manual focus third-party RF-mount lenses by Samyang, NiSi, Rokinon, etc. that the RF bodies cannot recognize. So you must enable "shutter release without lens" or you cannot take pictures with those lenses. Canon will not open their mount to third parties, and it will be a while before third party makers can reverse-engineer full compatibility and autofocus into their lenses.

[@carriehannigan6480]

Thank you! I keep mooning over the new mirrorless cameras and assuming I'm missing out on the latest and greatest, all the while my current DSLR takes great photos and is feeling slighted by my distraction. With the information you provided, I can logically wait until I'm financially ready for the change (...and some more of the bugs are worked out with the newest mirrorless cameras/lenses).

[@MyHumanWreckage]

Lesson learned: Don’t switch from DSLR to mirrorless cold turkey. Keep your DSLR until you’re comfortable with the new format!

[@marcoss6212]

Perhaps, with an adapter lens, later get the Z mount lenses.

[@paulinefollett3099]

A great piece of advice.

[@jessieg8851]

Nice 👍🏻 keeping that in mind

[@anthonychambers5587]

Yeah I am not getting rid of my 7D MK2 but I must admit my R5 has taken over most of my shoots

[@mbr5742]

It is legal to use both ;)

[@Reason-fg4ik]

I love shooting with my antique film bodies and my old fashioned dslr. 😉 My current functionality and lenses are far more technically advanced than my abilities allow me to take advantage. I'm not sure I'll ever upgrade. Another great video from the Northrups!

[@outfield1988]

Me too

[@ianevans7110]

Interesting to hear that you quote the Nikon D850 as the benchmark for image quality. I agree. I changed briefly to a Z7 and regretted it as the image quality was certainly not as good. I produce A1 and A2 prints from my D850 and I have not yet found anything to match it in a 35mm format camera. Yes, I can see some benefits with mirrorless cameras, but I believe that going mirrorless means sacrificing image quality. Whatever else people tell me about mirrorless and encourage me to move that way, I intend to keep my superb D850 !

[@simon_patterson]

If I needed a new camera, I'd get a d850. I currently have a d800 so don't need a new camera, though...

[@potterma63]

This was a great video! I'd love to see an update, now that it's been two years. What's the market space look like now?

[@andrewgrant6425]

Thanks for that very interesting discussion. It seems an advantage of the the new canon mirrorless is the ability to focus with a smaller aperture than my DSLR. Useful if using a 1,4 or 2x adapter with a telephoto zoom. Your r5 allows autofocus to an f stop of 22. The R6 allows for autofocus to an stop of 8. Amazing. The equivalent canon only allows an f stop of 5.6 or 8.

[@buyaport]

Ever experienced this: There is this new woman in your life, all the "specs" are perfect, she is attractive, intelligent, her family is nice too and people just like her and envy you. You even spent a holiday with her. There is nothing wrong with her, and you want to love her. But it just doesn't feel right. And then you turn back to your old love, which might not be as attractive etc. But it just feels right! This is how I feel with mirrorless vs. DSLR.

[@timothylatour4977]

Good analogy!

[@johndonaldson5126]

I've been using Sony cameras exclusively for 11 years. I've had to clean sensors perhaps a maximum of 10 times (once per year). I'm just very deliberate about how I change lenses and the environment I'm in. By cleaning I only mean running the built in clean mode and an air blower. I've never touched a sensor with a cleaning tool.

[@jhellier]

take a raw photo of clear blue sky at f/16. in the raw convertor increase the contrast and you will see dust spots

[@siddhantshrotriya3559]

there are two disappoint for me in mirrorless. first the startup time but I shoot product and architecture so it's not a deal-breaker. Second not having a flip screen.

[@DaneshwarDinshaw]

I dived for the EOS R when it first came out with the RF 24 -105 L lense\ A great experience I find that sometimes in landscape photography it freezes /blurred and i have to change focus and zoom to get it going again The slider on the R is not delivering

[@nazukeoya]

I got my Sony A1 in the mail a few days ago and so far I love it. I love that I have a programmed button just for switching between human, animal, and bird focus...critical when doing street photography. What I'm very annoyed by is that Sony went with CF-Express A instead of B. I tried to use my SDXC cards but they just couldn't handle the camera's buffer very well, so I was forced to spend $900 on 2 Sony CF-Express A memory cards. Not a happy camper!

[@kittyhawk9886]

WYSIWYG! Old timers like me can ditch my reading glasses, I can finally see what I am composing the the electronic viewfinder.

[@SteelRiderCarl]

If you have a DSLR or you just prefer a DSLR, it'll continue to serve you perfectly fine. Mirrorless is cool and all because everybody loves new tools but the old ones still work. Hopefully, manufacturers realize this and they'll continue to release DSLR's even if it's just to replace the ones that break over time.

[@trekkeruss]

I think the writing is already in the wall; DSLR’s are already on the way out. It just does not make financial sense for manufacturers to produce both DSLR’s and mirrorless cameras AND lenses. Especially given that the market for cameras has shrunk so much because if smartphones.

[@set3777]

@@trekkeruss Total Shipment Worldwide Jan-May 2022 DSLR 747,683 MILC 1,307,361 (MILC = mirrorless interchangeable lens cameras) 747,000 DSLRs sold = on the way out? Drop in sales of millions of Compact Fixed lens MIRRORLESS cameras because of smart phones. Also 1.3million MILCs include over 60% Micro Four Thirds. Now Canon, Pentax and and Nikon NEVER made M43 DLSRs. So DSLR are NOT on the way out. M43 MILCs are on the way out. Olympus went bankrupt and MIRROLESS Olympus is now from a FUND management company.

[@trekkeruss]

@@set3777 Can you name the next DSLR cameras and lenses that Canon and Nikon are going to produce in the next few years?

[@set3777]

@@trekkeruss No. But many Canon EF/EF-S mount and Nikon F-mount and Pentax K/Q mount cameras will be built. DSLRs were/are built to last at least 100,000-300,000 shutter activations. Tens of millions of DSLRs have been built to last for years and each DSLR body continue to sell 3 or more lens later. Sony et al tries to make cameras need to be replaced every one or two years just like mobile phones. Unlike Canon & Nikon, most models of Sony mirrorless cameras do not even have dust covers for their sensors when you change lens. So have you wondered why Canon Cameras sold in Australia has 5 years warranty but Mirrorless Cameras sold by Sony have only 2 years warranty?

[@trekkeruss]

@@set3777 You are missing the point. Regardless of how long DSLR cameras last, Canon and Nikon are no longer pouring R&D or money into producing new models. There is no incentive to make new lenses either, not when they are trying to get everyone to switch to mirrorless. It is not like they cannot sell 3 or more lenses for those cameras as well.

[@ron1347]

oh what camera are you filming with? the colours are all wrong on it mainly on Chelsea

[@BillC253]

Do you think people had similar thoughts back in 1908? When the model -T started replacing the horse? Don't you think at some point in future the only place you will see a DLSR in a museum next to the 8-track player.

[@wikedwhich1]

lighting really helps, sometimes these shows look better and other times not so good and working out why...I can't always put my finger on why.anyone got any views on this?..is it lighting, the chairs, distance from the camera, ...background?..Sometime I feel Tony talks to Chelsea in a way that I feel like I would like more eye contact...I dont mean to be rude at all, so please dont get me wrong, Ive followed this channel for a long time and I wouldn't do this unless they were helpful...just wondering if there is a way that the viewing could be even better!

[@ta5567]

Thank you! In many ways I was looking for a reason to change. I can not offer an actual reason to change from my DSLRs and your advise really helped.

[@lt1caprice57l]

There are many who went mirrorless, only to come back to DSLRs. Me personally, I'll always want an OVF, no matter any technical advantages offered by an EVF. Natural light > LED light. And only being able to look at a screen makes the camera "too" digital for my taste.

[@mbr5742]

Changing - no. But if you want to go full frame - I not go DSLM. That was my reason, I kept the DSLR (80D) for some jobs (Recently got a 6D2 cheap, so now all is full frame)

[@TJ-ym1zb]

After a pretty huge upgrade, I made recently (canon 500d to a sony a7iii) I am really disappointed with dust getting on the sensor.

[@outfield1988]

Bought a Z 50 which is cool but D 90 Is still my favorite I will never get rid of my old DSLRs.

[@_J.P._]

The best thing about "FF cameras are better gotta get one fast" hype is that you can buy APSC cameras used very cheap :D some people are literally abandoning ship and then thinking later "ummm.... why exactly did I sell my last gear?". But at that moment you bought his last gear and are now smiling each day :)

[@Nomorechannels]

Thanks for putting this together. I'm teaching a nature photography class next Saturday, and, I'm sure some of these questions will be asked..

[@TB-up4xi]

I have had both for almost 10 years - there are just too many advantages to the mirrorless system -for example you can actually see what you're composing, from exposure to white balance etc. in real time, I have just purchased my 4th mirrorless body - I still have my DSLR and a swag of lenses but I think I have picked it up maybe once or twice in the past 2 years and I doubt I would ever look at purchasing any DSLR ever again (ok maybe if one came out with 20+ FPS, 8K video, weighed under 500G and had a hybrid EVF and could use all the legacy lenses for under $2000 maybe) , my mirrorless systems are just more intuitive and fun to use - it's THE camera system I always default to. Sorry DSLR is dead every major manufacturer knows it. I missed the boat selling my DSLR gear - just about paperweights now......maybe like classic cars in 40-50 years time they might appreciate again.

[@JavierPhotoMX]

I have a Nikon d600, and decided to upgrade to a new mirror less camera, I choose Nikon z7 which at that point of time was advertised as the d850 equivalent. I got very disappointed with the AF speed vs my old d600, worst low light capabilities due to banding, worst dynamic range and a totally awful battery performance, it ates battery as a hungry beast. A lot of the issues were addressed via further updates but during several months i kept using my old reliable d600, and, i still don’t fully trust in my z7, when I have a session (i do street portrait) I always have my d600 in the car if anything goes wrong with my z7. This year I complemented with a Zfc, better AF but worst Image quality and ergonomics. 😅

[@thesharpercoder]

Q&A: Take a look at page 896 in the R5 Advanced User Guide. I don’t see any teleconverter setups listed. I have an EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS II USM. Sometimes I like to use the 1.4x III with it. I want to upgrade from my 7D2 to an R6/R5. Of course, I will need the EF to RF Canon mount adapter. Which raises the question, should I use my EF 1.4x III, or should I buy an RF 1.4x to use with my EF telephoto lenses. BTW, I also have an EF 400mm f/2.8L IS USM, which I may use with either a 1.4x or 2x teleconverters. Again, same question arises. Do I use the EF teleconverters, or should I buy the new RF teleconverters and use those?

[@davistalhone9482]

Mirrorless is definitely more affordable in my opinion. Especially on the secondary market. DSLR is still superior in several ways, though, IMO so I'm positive the two will cohabitate for many years to come.

[@grahamhobbs3501]

Good fair vid - one quibble - use of word 'upgrade' every time regarding mirrorless - 'change' would be more neutral

[@timothylatour4977]

Good point.

[@slackleashdogtraining3598]

Shooting a wedding is the MINEFIELD of pro photo; because it’s intensly important to people, AND you don’t get a second chance for those key moments. I’ve only shot weddings when they had a professional wedding photographer doing the NORMAL, and I’m free to do the candids with NO MUST HAVE SHOTS.

[@MichaelManolagas]

Thanks for your impartial in-depth analysis. I encounter so many of these questions in my role as a Sony photography educator, especially in the retail setting. I agree with Chelsea rather than Tony on the topic of recommending a mirrorless system to any customer looking for a new camera platform for the first time. DSLRs are becoming more difficult to find as are their lenses. The demand is drying up and sales figures are misleading because most of the DSLRs selling new at present were manufactured 1-3 years ago and have since been discontinued. So it's just selling off inventories at lower prices which still show up as dollars and units, but it's unsustainable. I would also proceed with caution on the value retention topic for DSLRs. We're only 5 years away from them being worth less than their SLR film counterparts. Thanks again! Constantine

[@SchardtCinematic]

I just got the Canon R7. That body is nice and small compared to my 90D. The 18-150 kit lens is nor bad for my first RF lens. But I also have the adapter for my EF lenses to use for now until I can afford to buy some RF lenses for now.

[@paulinefollett3099]

Very good points. Thanks for busting some of the myths surrounding mirrorless cameras.

[@nadahkhi]

Excellent

[@genemetz1945]

Please explain. I was choosing between sony A6300 mirrorless and Canon 80D. So I bought the Sony and used it for one week and took it back and bought the 80D. The reason was I take a lot of sports action photos for our Special Olympics team, but every time would take a photo, especially in a burst, the viewfinder would lose the subject for an instant with a black screen in the viewfinder. I don't know what happened and the salesman could not explain it. I don't experience this using the 80D. Can you explain?

[@dundas45]

So I have a D850 and moved into the Fuji world with an XT3. I love it but switching back and forth is tough. That first time you pick up the D850 in awhile I find I almost have to use Live View to get a similar experience. Quite happy keeping both systems though.

[@jooyoonchung3593]

My mirrorless cameras are nice, and seeing exposure and other data through the EVF is very convenient, but man, it’s a treat to go back to my DSLR and shoot through the OVF.

[@grillmeister7]

I just upgraded from Sony NEX-6 to A6700 (APS-C). It's significantly heavier but so much better images.

[@GetOffMyyLawn]

I have a D800 with a good selection of G 1.8 Prime lenses, and some old AF-D lenses. I also have a GX85 with a mix of the cheaper lenses (100-300, 17mm, 12-32mm, 14-45mm). The Panasonic kit is great for travel... light weight and decent IQ, and great IBIS. The D800 is almost 10 years old, but the image quality still holds up, and I love the primes. I decided not to jump into a new system at this point... probably when the D800 breaks down. To satisfy my urge to get something new, I picked up an X100V as my "take everywhere" camera to replace my Coolpix A. If I eventually switch, it might be to a "middle of the road" Fuji system to replace both the Nikon and Panasonic stuff.

[@panagiotistsiverdis]

You couldn't have a 800mm f/11 lens for DSLRs if you want to be able to focus with it... Also, good luck seeing through the optical viewfinder Chelsea..

[@grampawwillie1665]

excellent video; very helpful!

[@nvwolfephotography]

when i moved from D850 to Z7 when they first came out i was expecting a mirrorless D850, boy was I wrong. Z7 AF was garbage at the time. So much so i ended up switching to the Canon R because it was slightly better. Also the Canon Mirrorless had more interesting glass. Now have the R5 and very happy. I feel like the R5 is the mirrorless equivalent to the D850 and as a bonus I have all that great Canon Glass.