Too Good to be True?! A $299 Zoom/Wash

[@RylandRussell]

Grab the profile I made for this for Vista here - drive.google.com/file/d/1bnelmT-7oOMIthaOibb36391gcMBW0sy/view?usp=sharing This wont get you the 3 ring effects though and is 15 channel.

[@jacobrivera1979]

I used this fixture profile and imported it. The light comes on and I can change intensity and move it. But it won’t let me zoom or change color. Any thoughts?

[@crashingrhino]

Love these real world reviews. At our church we say that we want excellence for cheap.

[@RyanSomerfield]

We just purchased 15 of the white and 15 of the RGB fixtures and installed them yesterday, pretty impressed with them! they are a little on the loud side but i think we can get away with it.. thanks for the review!

[@RylandRussell]

Awesome! Ya in my experience moving lights in general are kinda loud. That’ll be sweet though.

[@croissantproductions]

I have demoed the Chauvet R2X Washes at sweetwater and it’s very clear why they are so expensive. They are very quiet, the zoom is silent and almost instant, the output is very high, it has extraordinary durability and quality, and the speed is incredible. These things are so fast. The point is, there’s alot of reasons these cost so much compared to the Boulder lights

[@RylandRussell]

Maybe I’ll grab one from our local rental house and compare head to head. I’ve seen them in person as well but I still think the value is super high with these boulders.

[@croissantproductions]

@@RylandRussell I do too. It’s definitely not a bad option for someone on a budget

[@pearldrumsets]

No lie every show is going to have some sort of sound system charging 1500 to 2k more doesn't justify all of chauvet price comom buddy let be honest the sound guy isn't say what's that noise over there in the corner......is it a light

[@rlg222]

You get that you pay for. Just a fact of life...

[@bradhuntsman]

I went thru the same vetting process with them. I bought one and tested it running for a 2 weeks straight, side by side with the MonoPrice light. I ended up outfitting my student room with them. And now 6 months later going to start adding them to the auditorium. I’m very pleased. Wish they were a little quieter, but not bad (quieter than MP). Thanks for your review.

[@bradhuntsman]

However, I’d like you to remove your review so the lights don’t sell out again when I need them. Haaaaaa

[@gazzy5363]

@@bradhuntsman Are these noisy? I work as a main engineer in a Theater and I need to know if they would be good for us

[@bradhuntsman]

@@gazzy5363 I don’t think they are any noisier that most other brands. And the fans do turn off when not on. But they definitely aren’t silent.

[@prettysimplemusic]

3X-4X savings!!! This is budget friendly and super informative!!!! 🔥

[@RylandRussell]

As long as they don’t catch on 🔥someday!! 😀

[@prettysimplemusic]

@@RylandRussell bwahahaha!!! 🤣

[@livebeautyfull]

Got a couple for our church. Thank you Ryland!

[@nbcchalifax]

This is awesome! What are the big Edison’s style lamps and bins?

[@JebediahKerb]

I love how US$299 converts to AU$445, but the Amazon price is $776. Good stuff.

[@jwillydrums9982]

We just ordered some for our church Ryland! Let me know if you want to see them in action. Thank you for the great review!

[@RylandRussell]

Awesome! Hope they work out great in your space.

[@murraybarton9142]

I love the fact that your reviewed this product. But you must be aware. The moment you talk about something on Amazon either the price goes up or the ratings go down. Due to quality assurance. Please more reviews about lighting. I cannot find any channels that review this stuff. Lots on audio and cameras but not lighting

[@msy003]

Hey man, thanks taking the time to really test it out and give us your thoughts.

[@JoshuaChilton]

These are awesome. I just recently bought 11 of them for our youth space and I’m slowly getting that space set up. I’ll send you a picture when I get it completed.

[@RylandRussell]

Nice!!!!

[@samhorne2]

How loud is the fan?

[@D71219ONE]

@@samhorne2 I also have this question.

[@crashingrhino]

Can you do a review if your lighting software?

[@BrokenSpokeMoto]

Take a shot every time he says ‘Steward’

[@dannychow2568]

maybe do video budget ACME XA-400 SPOT lights or same light system or how to setup a dmx program for church?

[@wordfellowshipchurch5164]

Ryland. I've placed several of these orders (several 3 lol) Where is the serial number so I know which light goes with what order? I haven't done a great job at keeping up with this and one of ours went out.

[@RylandRussell]

Hmmm I honestly am not sure. Did you reach out to Boulder yet?

[@alexvazquez3831]

Thanks for the review. I’m in the process of looking for moving heads to purchase for my DJ business. I’m looking to see what the differences are between these and 19x15W RGBW Aura Moving Head. They are similarly priced

[@RylandRussell]

Where are you finding new Martin Mac aura for $299? These are very similar, but I haven’t sat them side by side to compare.

[@tobin_nathan]

My biggest concern with the “imported” knockoff lights is safety. Are there any listing marks, such as UL or ETL, that certify it’s been tested and certified as a safe electronic device (this can be an insurance issue if not)? Also I’ve had knockoff lights come with flying hardware, but nowhere to attach the safety, making it impossible to fly safely. Are there safety locations? Thanks for the review, great info in there!

[@RylandRussell]

Good questions. I'll check it out.

[@rlg222]

They are usually not UL safe and I could get in trouble for using them at an event.

[@shelbysonntag5392]

Hey Ryland! What do you use to power these lights? I've never used powercon cables before. Thanks in advance!

[@RylandRussell]

Hey there, so they come with a "powercon" twist lock on the light but the other end of the cable is just a normal plug in. So just plug them on in :)

[@shelbysonntag5392]

@@RylandRussell oh, perfect!! Thank you!

[@francisnaval]

Is this compatible with lightkey software

[@RylandRussell]

For sure! You can use these with any dmx controller. I don't use lightkey but you typically just create a light profile.

[@francisnaval]

@@RylandRussell what dmx controller you might suggest for this? Currently I have co-z but for some reasons it doesn’t work properly. I cannot choose the color for some reasons

[@croissantproductions]

Blizzard Lighting imports chinese lights like these and overprices them all the time. The only better things you’re getting buying from Blizzard is a consistent product no matter when you buy it, and an easier situation to deal with if the lights breaks or something.

[@rlg222]

That is correct..

[@eddiepeele9810]

What kind of controller do you use?

[@NickKofi]

How do you control them? Also what are the make of the make of the light in the background? The big ones?

[@jamestucker3661]

Great video by the way!

[@traviskeas9614]

Hey Ryland! I really love your channel. It's been incredibly inspiring and helpful. I've wanted to begin using haze in our church for a while now, but I haven't figured out how to best control the haze so that we aren't saturating the sanctuary, making the haze too thick, or hiding the hazer so that the output is discreet. Do you have a video or info on how to best implement a hazer so it's as discreet as possible but effective? Thanks in advance!

[@RylandRussell]

Hey Travis! It’s on the list 😀. My experience is finer haze output+multiple fans+time=better haze.

[@traviskeas9614]

@@RylandRussell Thank you! Just trying to figure out how to do this well and not distracting lol. Looking forward to the video!

[@JoshuaChilton]

Travis, I’ve had a lot of luck over the years introducing new creative elements, haze being one of them, for special events, worship nights, Easter, etc. Then over time it becomes more normal and then just start using it regularly after one of those events. We introduced haze this way to a 130 year old church that was a little more traditional but the congregation was very receptive to it when done well. Always do it with the right heart. When communicating I often return to the idea of a beautiful sunset. The rays of light are amazing colors are only because of God’s use of haze. We’re doing the same thing by painting the air with color as a way to show his glory.

[@johnmcvicker6728]

During this video, I can hear something - fans of some sort. Is that from the light cooling fans? Or your A.C.? I visited one church recently and even from the rear zone of the congregation, we could hear their lighting cooling fans on the floor of the stage which sounded like someone running a vacuum cleaner in the next-room the whole message part of the service. Of course, band overshadows such low-noise.

[@RylandRussell]

All moving lights have fans to my knowledge, the new versions of these have temp controlled fans so when the lights aren’t outputting the fans shut off. So for these rgbw version I’d see no problem with it as after about 30 seconds they shut off.

[@rogerhita-ly2px]

@ryland God bless you brother so I bought 5 of these but my volunteers threw the users manuals away, do you have a copy you can send me ? Including the white boulder ones …. Thanks in advance.

[@RylandRussell]

drive.google.com/drive/folders/1H_EYaKICTEsYQUJ497Pv-jFqJzsxWg5G?usp=sharing

[@benratliff9157]

Have you seen the VShow moving washes? They’re about the same price, I’m curious how they stand against these? Also how loud are the fans on these?

[@RylandRussell]

These? amzn.to/3cl3jAz

[@sutytech]

299usd including the shipping cost from China to your country?

[@RylandRussell]

We got them on Amazon prime here in USA

[@WhiteTurtleDiver]

Are they as noisy as the beams?

[@RylandRussell]

The Shehds beams? No. These actually have temp regulated fans that kick off when not in use. (Boulder updated them)

[@wedomusic.]

nice

[@danilo352]

Hey, do you see like these lights? We may need upgrade soon as our lights are dying on us. Thanks!

[@RylandRussell]

Use them every week and we love them.

[@danilo352]

@@RylandRussell thank you taking the time to get back to me! I’ll abuse it one more time: would you use them as front fills? If not, do you have a video on that? I can go digging your channel

[@wordfellowshipchurch5164]

Awesome! What are the two white lights that are on the top bar?

[@RylandRussell]

amzn.to/35zVN21 but the 255 instead of 260s

[@TheBrittp33]

Thanks Ryland! We just grabbed two today!

[@24churchvideos]

Curious what is the white color temp for these fixtures? You mentioned ‘cool white’ but is that 5600k or 4300k?

[@RylandRussell]

Oh I’d say it’s more like 6-7k. Daylight ⬆️ 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@theexperiencemeridian6158]

How did you make / where did you buy the warm effect lights you have between the moving lights?

[@RylandRussell]

Search amazon for oversized edison amzn.to/3EB2Xl0

[@theexperiencemeridian6158]

@@RylandRussell Thank you!!!! Appreciate it! And they are just mounted in a tub?

[@matthewharshbarger4886]

Any chance of sharing that Vista fixture profile for the light?

[@RylandRussell]

Yesh I will grab it and through a link in there. 👍🏻

[@matthewharshbarger4886]

Thanks!!

[@jamestucker3661]

What is the fan noise like when you are running multiples like this?

[@RylandRussell]

Hey James! I’d say the fan noise is a little louder than my chauvet intimidator 255irc units but quieter than my blizzard gmax 150 units. Pretty normal.

[@jwalker6188]

Great video, thanks for sharing. What white light does this fixture create? Does it only create 5600k white or will it do something around 4000k? Wondering what fixtures you are using to light your people on stage and what color temp you are lighting those faces?

[@RylandRussell]

I wouldn’t use these for front lighting. The white is more like 6-7k. We use old source 4 jrs at around 4K. Gelled.

[@jwalker6188]

@@RylandRussell Thanks those do add some good movement and color as a background. Thanks again for the knowledge.

[@jwalker6188]

@@RylandRussell Can you share the exact gel you bought for your S4's? Also we are considering converting our S4's to LED SFWRDs. Do you have any experience with them? $600 engines feel like better use of our money over new LED S4's. Would be interested in your thoughts. Thanks.

[@liveguitarlessons]

What's the equivalent for europe?

[@RylandRussell]

sorry I'm not sure. Is it a power thing I guess?

[@RylandRussell]

The shehds version is very comparable. The main difference is that the fan is not variable. shehds.sjv.io/jrNDO5

[@theporchcommunitychurch7570]

Just bought one! How hard was it to make a profile?

[@RylandRussell]

I hadn’t done it before but it was pretty simple if I remember. Jands will also make a profile for it if you submit it to them.

[@theporchcommunitychurch7570]

@@RylandRussell thank you!

[@aaronjones6843]

Hey Ryland in quiet moments how do you deal with the fan noise on light fixtures? Seems to be pretty evident in this video, can you hear it from the seats?

[@RylandRussell]

I’ve never had anyone complain and you really don’t notice it. Even in our traditional service they are on.

[@RylandRussell]

If you want moving head lights I’ve yet to see one without a fan 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@aaronjones6843]

@@RylandRussell Totally, we have some Intimidators and some Pars with fans and they just seem loud in the silent moments. I haven’t had anyone complain either. I just wonder if more sound suppression behind the truss would make it less noticeable

[@RylandRussell]

@@aaronjones6843 one cool thing about the new version of these lights is that the fans are temp activated. So if you haven’t been using them they will be silent.

[@deraywilliams9544]

Hey, what do use for Haze?

[@RylandRussell]

Ultratec radiance kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZWsnIerjseKjZY

[@barbarab.2367]

Hey Ryland, what do you use to control the lights?

[@RylandRussell]

We use software. Jands Vista

[@rlg222]

@@RylandRussell I have never heard or used this brand.

[@rlg222]

The biggest difference that you pay for is for the quality control by American company's. You don't get that from China direct shipping. It all comes from China. In the production world, I would get smacked for using these lights. For basic stuff its fine...I'm not too impressed with Blizzard lighting.

[@FVDaudio]

✨✨👏👏

[@Playsinvain]

Church? That’s rich!

[@allanbronnec3333]

mac auras remain the best machines in terms of color rendering

[@RylandRussell]

And they should be for $3,150.00 a piece!

[@allanbronnec3333]

@@RylandRussell quality pays off

[@TheRealJeffPoole]

How loud are the fans?

[@RylandRussell]

Average for a moving head light. I’ve got some that are louder.

[@wordfellowshipchurch5164]

@@RylandRussell Im setting two of these up today and granted these are my first set of movers, but the fans seem loud. Again though, not sure what is normal for a set of movers, it could be totally normal? I cant get my head tricked into thinking its background noise, its obviously a fan, which wouldn't be a big deal during worship but moreso for the message.

[@wordfellowshipchurch5164]

Ryland. You were right! After we used them for a few weeks, the fan noise just kinda sounds like room noise. Its not bad. Thanks

[@cshay77]

Hey all! Anyone use these with Lightkey? Is it possible to send fixture profiles for these or anyone that can assist me in making the profile for this light? Thanks!

[@RylandRussell]

Hey Corey, I don't use Lightkey but try this video for how to kzbin.info/www/bejne/nauplX5-jdlprrc

[@cshay77]

@@RylandRussell Any way to screenshot your parameters for the profile you made? I have made my own profile in Lightkey for this light but I can only send effect Macros to it. i can’t change brightness, color or position

[@cshay77]

@@RylandRussell Figured it out, we have different lights than you have. The booklet with the channel settings that come with don’t match this light, it most likely matches your version

[@benlove8520]

Be

[@lombybedlam]

Greetings. Regarding "cheap" products from China, you should understand one simple thing - you pay a part of the money from the full cost of the original product. China does not charge you money for environmental care, does not charge union tax and workers insurance, etc. As a person connected with religion and faith, it should be clear to you that China, at the state level, actually neglects all world standards: caring for nature, caring for people. Nature and people in China are just "quantity". China is developing "Red Socialism" - this is the evil against which the entire conscious world is now defending itself.

[@UndercurrentLabs]

Your support of China based products who don't provide freedom of religion / worship among other humanitarian violations versus supporting democratic countries who do support principles closer to the US, is a slippery slope when it comes to stewardship of money and principle...thoughts? Just something to think about as we're all guilty of this...

[@mrsonor1090]

Really? Do you need expensive lightning to pray to magic dude in the sky? How about don't spend those money and instead give it to the poor, like it says in that old book you think is soooo wonderful, the bibble or something. I think food and survive is more important than a moving head.