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JinxedThoughts

JinxedThoughts

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@MrReindeerIRL
@MrReindeerIRL Ай бұрын
I like how we all knew Isha was going to die but never saw this coming
@alicepii
@alicepii Ай бұрын
i honestly thought isha was gonna be what brung jinx and vi back together + brought the powder back in jinx ☹i should've seen it coming
@mackingcheese
@mackingcheese Ай бұрын
@@alicepii she was though, in act one she helped vi see that powder isn't gone, and she helped jinx realize the same thing throughout their relationship
@MN-vz8qm
@MN-vz8qm Ай бұрын
Well, the scene is non sensical anyway, Jinx wasn't in immediate threat of Warwick, they could have just left.
@MrReindeerIRL
@MrReindeerIRL Ай бұрын
@MN-vz8qm I think they were trying to go for she does it for Vanda instead of Jinx but they could've kinda shown Vanda saying help me or something like that
@HK-gm8pe
@HK-gm8pe Ай бұрын
yeah somehow it was still such a gut punch , I agree tho that show needed at least more episodes but right now Im happy with what wwe got aswell, its still very good
@akmarina4470
@akmarina4470 Ай бұрын
Love the part when Eko fixed everything reviving everyone including Silco and Kaitlyn’s mom and then Jinx looked into the camera and said “this really was arcane league of legends”
@kendaph11
@kendaph11 Ай бұрын
I find this show demands rewatches. It’s almost seems created for that purpose. 2nd viewing and its pace doesn’t seem nearly as rushed as it allows you to see it moment by moment with better appreciation without having to absorb all at once.
@alexvonzoo
@alexvonzoo Ай бұрын
I'm totally onboard with this. Every rewatch gives you something to appreciate it more and more. At the first glance, I thought it was sloppy and lazy compared to season 1 but it turned out that after every rewatch it kept climbing the rating scale. I remembered it was similar with season 1 except you were so blown away by the artwork and storytelling but after seeing the theories, opinions, lore and all that, it kept climbing the ratings just like it is now.
@erenja3ger871
@erenja3ger871 Ай бұрын
I rewatched this show multiple times and I still think it was rushed in the main parts people complain about. It's just that those scenes have a good foundation that when the bullet is fired you can more easily accept them
@audrei679
@audrei679 Ай бұрын
i disagree purely for the second season. while watching the first season never once did i say 'the pacing is too fast, i don't know whats happening, where even are we?' i said that basically every scene so far in season 2.
@Maotrix-RandomGameStuff
@Maotrix-RandomGameStuff Ай бұрын
Exactly when I rewatched the first two acts of this season it didn’t feel rushed at all.
@Maotrix-RandomGameStuff
@Maotrix-RandomGameStuff Ай бұрын
@@audrei679i think that’s part of the mystery
@Nyx__
@Nyx__ Ай бұрын
The Caitlyn flip feels abrupt but makes perfect sense. She learned the "bloodthirsty chemical weapon beast" they are tracking I Vi's father. She also never trusted Ambessa, but only worked with her to get closer to catching Jinx. Vi offers and opportunity for her to get back with someone she misses (you can tell she isn't very affectionate towards Maddie) and also hinder Ambessa's plans to get another weapon. She would still be a dictator, and a bad person doing shit for herself, but she sees a opening of getting what she wants; Ambessa gone and Vi back.
@akmarina4470
@akmarina4470 Ай бұрын
The problem for me isn’t really that it didn’t make sense, it was more so that there was so much setup-amazing setup might I add- for a Kaitlyn dictator arc just for it to happen offscreen. Like yeah we got her bio terrorist era, yay slay the slums nepo baby, but like after the cape scene it just feels like we should’ve gotten so much more. As it stands the worse thing Kaitlyn’s done since the coronation was have a relationship with her subordinate lmao
@stellamariefanboy.6768
@stellamariefanboy.6768 Ай бұрын
@@akmarina4470 Has to be the only plot twist I was ever truly shocked about in any form of media 🤣 I can’t believe I didn’t expect it even though it is a common trope when we have two people “break up”
@kayser9665
@kayser9665 Ай бұрын
Savika's arm actually represents the state of th undercity. When Vander was still alive she had her arm, but after vander dies and Silco takes over the undercity she had a shimmer powered robotic arm. When things started to get dragged into chaos nearing Silco's death she loses her arm again, and finally when Jinx and her teams up and Jinx is somewhat the undercity's hope, Savika gets another arm (and it had to be in jinx style of course)
@jasonjones5586
@jasonjones5586 Ай бұрын
The pacing lets viewers experience what the characters are feeling, NON-STOP CLOWNERY. They dont get a chance to breathe and think and neither do we. They dont get to chill or take a breather and neither do we, which is think is brilliant in itself. This show needs to be rewatched because theres so much to take in and i kid you not rewatching this show brings much more satisfaction. For the two-season 18ep decision, it was Christian Linke's idea, the producer of Arcane. They wont be in Piltover/Zaun for long. Next show will bring us to explore other regions following League's lore which many is speculating, Noxus. Sooooo yea pretty excited to see the war-hungry region.
@Nyx__
@Nyx__ Ай бұрын
The pacing is definitely fast, but after several rewatches I think it all is perfectly fine. I never once felt like I missed out on things, only that I got to see where the characters ended up. Arcane highlights the decisions and crossroads the characters face. Instead of focusing on the journey it self they leave that up to the imagination while showing you the results of said actions. For example. We don't need to see Salo go to Viktor. We know he is desperate and an addict. He wants to do anything to get back his legs so he can *rise* again after being *knocked down*. Here there is no need to show Salo and Viktor. We know he went there, Viktor "healed" him and with that came the consequences of his actions. Now we as the view get to imagine how that interaction went and all the not important stuff, while the show can jump straight into another crossroads for Salo. The death of his husk. It's a very different way of writing and producing a show, but I honestly think it works perfectly. I don't miss anything. The only thing I actually don't like is that there should've been more seasons to fit the multiple story lines better. Black Rose is too crammed into the show. The show would've been perfectly fine without it. It doesn't take away from the show, but it feels like it's something they could've used to justifying making more of Arcane. Even though it's very likely we are getting more from the Runeterra universe. It won't be with the same characters we have now.
@MalzraAirwynn
@MalzraAirwynn Ай бұрын
Same. I didn't really have any major issues with Act 2 other than the way it destroyed me emotionally. I didn't need to spend a whole episode on Vi's downward spiral when the montage communicated it perfectly. Having Lest tell Salo about Viktor was all we needed to set up him becoming a follower, because we've already see the process Viktor uses to heal people. We know there's a lot of people suffering in Zaun so it's no surprise to me that while martial law has been going on, Viktor's flock has grown and established a commune. Cait and Vi work together quickly, yes, but it's not like they've sorted out their issues and kissed again. They aren't 'back together' already. Caitlyn had been shown having doubts about Ambessa all act. This will only be an issue for me if act 3 comes out suddenly all their interpersonal issues are somehow resolved. Act 3 has a lot to resolve, but I also feel like all the major plot points are converging, so it will be easier to tie to resolutions together. The pace is fast but I never had trouble following what was going on or felt like I needed anything that was skipped over. They've done a good job so far IMO showing what they need to show and letting us connect the dots on the rest.
@steventomasi5557
@steventomasi5557 Ай бұрын
Feel like an extra ten minutes per episode or a 3rd season would have helped out
@enoch6024
@enoch6024 Ай бұрын
Yeah some arcs definitely needed more time to be fleshed out. Cait’s dictator arc and Vi’s pitfighter arc especially
@panzerofthelake4752
@panzerofthelake4752 Ай бұрын
8:16 Trust me on this, go back to that scene, rewatch, and listen really hard. Isha is screaming "Mama". Yeah this show is a gut punch literally every 5-10 minutes and I am all for it.
@bugleaf9603
@bugleaf9603 Ай бұрын
You just ruined my life with this comment omg 😭😭😭😭😭
@Superlizardy36
@Superlizardy36 Ай бұрын
I dont hear it
@aleksnotsorry2180
@aleksnotsorry2180 Ай бұрын
i feel like i hear three diff things tbh
@andrithorkristensson2545
@andrithorkristensson2545 Ай бұрын
Bro the NO at 8:04 was crazy. You could actually feel the pain in your voice LMAO
@ghostlyman4289
@ghostlyman4289 Ай бұрын
Isha's sacrifice broke me in a way I never expected, I was straight up doing the ugly crying to it. I knew she was going to be important or going to die but not like this.
@stellamariefanboy.6768
@stellamariefanboy.6768 Ай бұрын
I guess I should’ve predicted her death would parallel jinx in some way but I honestly thought they’d give her a death that is brushed over. Because I’ve had trauma of shows doing that to characters before.. but I’m glad she at least wasn’t thrown away like that
@austincde
@austincde Ай бұрын
LOL I hope Ekko fixes everything too! Also I hope Mel shows out for all that build up she got
@vuvdg4277
@vuvdg4277 Ай бұрын
Mel is in trailers for act 3, so...
@andrithorkristensson2545
@andrithorkristensson2545 Ай бұрын
I hope that doesn't happen but it is what I think will happen..
@austincde
@austincde Ай бұрын
@@andrithorkristensson2545 no of course not, its just wishful thinking, cant take anymore tragedy lol
@andrithorkristensson2545
@andrithorkristensson2545 Ай бұрын
@ that’s so fair lol
@deboraron2794
@deboraron2794 Ай бұрын
“Don’t you show me the sad montage” 😢😢😢😢
@Tractorfuture
@Tractorfuture Ай бұрын
Bro was experiencing grief in three ways. One, isha. Two his theory video. And three, EVERY ARCANE FANS EMOTIONAL STATE!
@audrei679
@audrei679 Ай бұрын
all of the pacing and writing issues would be fixed if they just... made a third season. or, god forbid, gave us more than 9 episodes in this season.
@ursidae97
@ursidae97 Ай бұрын
That's the problem with Netflix. They demand either shows go on forever and be cataclysmically popular while doing so, or be cancelled immediately, and artists respond to that by ending in their terms. Bojack did it, stranger things is doing it, and now so is arcane.
@JinxedThoughts
@JinxedThoughts Ай бұрын
This.
@Maotrix-RandomGameStuff
@Maotrix-RandomGameStuff Ай бұрын
@@JinxedThoughtsread this reply from a fellow commentator: Not all opinions are equally valid either. It's like people who complain about "balance" in a game but they actually just want it to be made easier. Some of criticism is just the everything-is-crap brigade that social media algorithms reward because that's the world we live in. Some of the criticism is because people didn't "like" what happens to a character - regardless of whether it is required from a storytelling perspective. Aka "I liked Isha, what happened to Isha made me feel sad, therefore ". Some criticism is because the focus is not on a character or plot point that someone isn't as interested in. Aka "I don't care about ‹character a > I want to know about ‹character b> and all this time devoted to ‹character a> is preventing me from finding out about < character b>, therefore ‹insert most popular criticism>". Or some people are soooo into the story they just want more more more. But then that runs in a practical issue the writers have to adapt a story to constraints of the media it is published in. i.e. they have to choose what to keep or cut from a limited series - and what to keep or cut is based on what benefits the story as a whole, not necessarily what some of the audience wants (writing a story is not a popularity contest). Aka "You're not going into excessive detail about everything I want so it's even though doing what I want would blow out the show into a 20-season epic". All those criticisms (except for social media grifters) are perfectly fine/normal btw - it's actually motivated by people liking the source content, but that doesn't mean it's necessarily a valid criticism OF the source content either. Tldr - people don't get what they want. The trending criticism of Arcane this season is "pacing". Therefore people are blaming "pacing" for them not getting what they want - even if it has nothing to do with pacing. ‹because humans>
@adrian_shepherd1997
@adrian_shepherd1997 Ай бұрын
the writers said arcane ends after season 2. I do wish we'd see more of jinx and Vi and Caitlyn. They are making more arcane similar shows with other champions from lol so that's that.
@stellamariefanboy.6768
@stellamariefanboy.6768 Ай бұрын
Arcane takes a long time to produce, coupled with the problems of Netflix I can definitely see why they decided to only do 2 seasons but they should’ve at the very least made it so the episodes are longer, theres way too much to crammed in in just 30 minutes or however long each episode was..
@pwpqwq7648
@pwpqwq7648 Ай бұрын
We should know by now that if Jinx has one happy moment in Arcane, it only lasts a few minutes at best.
@quincyhotchkiss4775
@quincyhotchkiss4775 Ай бұрын
What people tend not to realize is that pacing problems take a lot more resources to fix than others, this resources being time and money. Every second of animation is extremely expensive and to get more time the show would have to spend even more money than it already has. I think it’s very commendable what they’ve done and how they’ve managed to utilize their limitations as a Creative direction, deciding to make the show demand a rewatch as many people in the comments are pointing out, utilizing the pacing to put us in the same headspace as the characters, etc. also a lot of times we construct an idealized version of the last in our heads, for those feeling that the new season isn’t up to snuff with season one, I would suggest rewatching season one and seeing if the reality lives up to your memory. I haven’t ever rewatched arcane because that’s now how I operate, so I don’t know if this is good advice or not or if it will work out, but a lot of people seem to be saying rewatch is worth it, so I might try it out.
@bxl2012
@bxl2012 Ай бұрын
The pacing of the first season is different. The second season is still good, the first one was outstanding.
@joaop5033
@joaop5033 Ай бұрын
I guess I'm just dead inside, when I saw Isha I already knew she was going to die
@gummisharkk
@gummisharkk Ай бұрын
Not that anyone needs to know this but when Isha loads Zapper, she puts in three hex crystals. To power Powder's monkey, Mr Duddy, she used... three hex crystals; two on the inside and one inbetween the cymbals.
@bugleaf9603
@bugleaf9603 Ай бұрын
The beginning of this video is a perfect example of how I’ve been explaining it… that act tore my heart out, stomped on it, ripped it up, glued it back together, then used a flamethrower on it 😭😭 I’ve never been so emotional
@inory5460
@inory5460 Ай бұрын
my first thought of Jayce reappearing was the same "oh my guy looks hot" xD
@MaxArcana
@MaxArcana Ай бұрын
I honestly don’t see any pacing issues I feel like they’ve done these scenes really efficiently and give time to breathe and think with the new direction act 2 brings the series in
@Iamnatureawake
@Iamnatureawake Ай бұрын
oh yeah? watch. Jinx gonna pull an Isha for the finaly on the Hexcore. its the only way to fully redeem her and it only makes sense that the one to cause the first explosion makes the last, and finally saves her family.. with a bang.
@zarlashtkhan3740
@zarlashtkhan3740 Ай бұрын
theres absolutely nothing wrong with arcane. Its 9 years of fucking brilliance.
@aaronmartinez4439
@aaronmartinez4439 Ай бұрын
Yes, there is. The time skip from episodes 3 to 4 is not handled well; it feels like more episodes were needed to fill that gap. For example, there’s the sudden change in Caitlyn's mindset. As viewers, we need more explanation than just a montage to understand why a character would suddenly become tired of chasing the monster that killed her mother. And yeah, we assumed it was from the extensive war, but we viewers didn’t see it.
@zarlashtkhan3740
@zarlashtkhan3740 Ай бұрын
@aaronmartinez4439 Caitlyn is actively spearheading a war against the Undercity until episode 6 what are you talking about?
@Just-Yap
@Just-Yap Ай бұрын
@@aaronmartinez4439 I'm sorry but Caitlyn's example isn't a good one, through Act 1 we see that Caitlyn is wanting revenge, she see herself shoot Jinx before Jayce come to talk. She then create a whole squad to track her down using the priviledge / act of good faith her family did for Zaun agains't Zaun, and she didn't cared that a child (Isha) could have been hit by a missfire. Through all of this we see her becoming more aggressive overall. Then the sudden change of mind which isn't that sudden, through the whole Act 2 when Caitlyn is interracting with Ambessa there is some kind of friction or clash between them. The scene with Maddie, Caitlyn say that she didn't think that things would stay like that (fortification / her as a commander yada yada) for so long, she also state that she didn't know what she was thinking meaning that her mind became more clear (through the elipse tho). 2nd scene with Maddie, she try again to make Caitlyn go back on the whole situation but Ambessa arrive, and ask Maddie to leave because she is a "threat" like Vi is a "threat" to Ambessa's ambitions for Caitlyn. But we also see in this scene / room Ambessa being in the shadow while Caitlyn is in the light. Ambessa litteraly say to Caitlyn "You don't trust me" to which she respond "A blade cut both way" showing again that Caitlyn doesn't fully agree with Ambessa decisions overall. They are appart and when we have a plan with both of them together (in this scene) they are separated by a beam of light between the curtain, again they don't agree fully with eachother. Ambessa also say in this scene that Caitlyn might possess a strength that she don't have "forgiveness". She don't forgive Jinx (for now), when she see her with Vander she clearly say "You" while having an angry facial expression, she still very much hate Jinx and it wouldn't surprise me if she try to kill/arrest her in Act 3. But right after that Vi enter the room and go with Vander, as Caitlyn was willing to help Vi i'm not sure she would try this time to kill / arrest Jinx in this situation after all the struggle / opposition she had with Ambessa and the said strenght in forgiveness, but its more so she isn't blinded by pure rage / hate like in episode 3 when even Vi say "then why you act like her (Jinx)" when Caitlyn was very much in a blinded by the rage mood
@MN-vz8qm
@MN-vz8qm Ай бұрын
Unfortunately, it is all over the place, with rushed arcs while some other scenes and characters are completely useless in the grand scheme of things (the entire squad of cait and Mel arc should have gone to the trashcan). The dialogs are a downgrade too (Jinx monologs, the discussion between Caitlin and Jayce on the bench in ep1 etc..). Characters are un full chaos; for example we left Jinx completely psycho in season 1 (she already was wacko in ep 4 before Singed changed her), but in season 2, appart from screaming once or twice, she is perfectly fine. The sacrifice of Isha makes no sense, Jinx was in no immediate threat, they could have run away together. etc etc etc
@Maotrix-RandomGameStuff
@Maotrix-RandomGameStuff Ай бұрын
@@MN-vz8qm disagree if you think ishas sacrifice makes no sense. Read this comment fellow commenter from another fellow commenter, I feel you fit into this description: Not all opinions are equally valid either. It's like people who complain about "balance" in a game but they actually just want it to be made easier. Some of criticism is just the everything-is-crap brigade that social media algorithms reward because that's the world we live in. Some of the criticism is because people didn't "like" what happens to a character - regardless of whether it is required from a storytelling perspective. Aka "I liked Isha, what happened to Isha made me feel sad, therefore ". Some criticism is because the focus is not on a character or plot point that someone isn't as interested in. Aka "I don't care about ‹character a > I want to know about ‹character b> and all this time devoted to ‹character a> is preventing me from finding out about < character b>, therefore ‹insert most popular criticism>". Or some people are soooo into the story they just want more more more. But then that runs in a practical issue the writers have to adapt a story to constraints of the media it is published in. i.e. they have to choose what to keep or cut from a limited series - and what to keep or cut is based on what benefits the story as a whole, not necessarily what some of the audience wants (writing a story is not a popularity contest). Aka "You're not going into excessive detail about everything I want so it's even though doing what I want would blow out the show into a 20-season epic". All those criticisms (except for social media grifters) are perfectly fine/normal btw - it's actually motivated by people liking the source content, but that doesn't mean it's necessarily a valid criticism OF the source content either. Tldr - people don't get what they want. The trending criticism of Arcane this season is "pacing". Therefore people are blaming "pacing" for them not getting what they want - even if it has nothing to do with pacing. ‹because humans>
@Sirbartholomew
@Sirbartholomew Ай бұрын
The pacing being too fast is entirely subjective. It hasn’t compromised the plot in anyway and theres alot of people that prefer it this way.
@andrithorkristensson2545
@andrithorkristensson2545 Ай бұрын
I disagree specifically because they are skipping through plot points that they had set up. Caitlyn was set up to essentially have a villain arc last act but then we just skip through that with a montage in act 2. We see Vi absolutely broken at the end but again we just skip through it with a montage. There’s so much stuff like this and it wasn’t like this in s1
@Strix2031
@Strix2031 Ай бұрын
It certainly compromised the plot for Caitlyn and Ambessa to the point lots of people dont understand Caitlyn's arc and nobody understands her relationship with Ambessa
@Sirbartholomew
@Sirbartholomew Ай бұрын
@ its pretty clear cut lmao, maybe people are just dumb idk
@CoachSagi
@CoachSagi Ай бұрын
@@Strix2031 seems like an issue with people being stupid not with the plot being fast. i understood it perfectly maybe try watching while not on the phone
@JacobFors
@JacobFors Ай бұрын
Vi came together with both Jinx and Caitlyn for the same reason they were driven apart, a parent. Plus I think Cait seeing Singed made her see the path she was heading allowing her and Vi to reconcile for Warrick I think things are a little rushed, but I don’t think we need to see a lot of the things inbetween.
@WeirdOmens
@WeirdOmens Ай бұрын
I didn't feel like things were moving too fast up until Cait and Vi got back together. I think I felt that way because the writers did great at character building that we knew we didn't have to see all of their decions and actions on screen to know that it makes sense. It would have been nice to see more of it because we love (or hate) these characters so much, but it wasn't needed to convince us that happened was in character. Up until Cait and Vi got back together anyway. I def think Vi would have worked together with Cait temporarily to save Vander, but it seems odd to me that Cait is suddenly cool with letting go of her dictatorship. Yeah, there were hints from other people like Maddie that she should stop and there was hesitation when she'd do something horrible like green light a Jinxer being tortured for Jinx's location, but she didn't look to be in a delima over it. So it didn't convince me she'd switch sides so fast. Maybe in Act 3 they explain why she switched so quickly. I also don't think Vi would forgive Cait so easy. They could of spent a few seconds just throwing in a line of Vi explaining she's only working with Cait for Vander but it doesn't mean anything more.
@umbreonic766
@umbreonic766 Ай бұрын
i don’t think necessarily they got “back together.” what we see IS them working together for the sake of vander. and if not for jayce killing viktor & singed corrupting warwick, caitlyn almost certainly would’ve torn into vi for being with jinx. the trailer for act 3 features them arguing, granted, the only discussion we KNOW they’ll have is about ambessa. but to me it seems like an argument about who they keep company with - caitlyn hurt that vi is with jinx, vi hits back about ambessa. all that said, it was jarring for me as well. but it would’ve been equally jarring for her to have ACTUALLY captured vi. i’m hopeful for act 3 to give them a proper reunion, with the time and words they need.
@kingDowahs
@kingDowahs Ай бұрын
I’d argue that while right now S2E6 is the highest rated episode of the series, It’s actually probably one of the weaker ones as while it’s still like an 8/10 it tries to do too much in a short amount of time and I feel like if every act this season was 4 episodes it would flow a lot better(Or, better yet, split Season 2 into Two Seasons)
@WeirdOmens
@WeirdOmens Ай бұрын
@@kingDowahs I see how some people feel that, and I disagree. It feels like a lot because tons of people are expecting the story to end here. But honestly, with how big Runeterra is and all the stories going on in other geo political factions, there's no way Arcane is ending all story lines. They'll probably conclude the piltover/zaun conflict and characters personal problems, but the larger threat of the Arcane wont end here. It also feels like they're doing a lot because they're also setting up other champions stories like Singed's for future protect. Riot and Fortiche have confirmed they plan to do more stories, but it's a matter of getting the funds and greenlight for the projects so we may never get a true ending 😭
@CoachSagi
@CoachSagi Ай бұрын
anyone who says this was rushed was watching the season while on the phone and not paying attention to anything. it tilts me so fucking much.
@chrishaven1489
@chrishaven1489 Ай бұрын
No, I was paying attention. It was still rushed
@locopollo2042
@locopollo2042 14 күн бұрын
This season was dog water ngl nothing made sense anymore
@penono
@penono Ай бұрын
Imagine 5 season of story telling condensed into 1 season
@DarkKing009
@DarkKing009 Ай бұрын
I swear there must have been two times skips in this Arc only
@0BSCUREE
@0BSCUREE Ай бұрын
the 3 episode per act really isnt enough for season 2, i think that jinx vs rictus fight was also a victim of this, the fight was so cool yet so short but the act 1 was really good and imo sevika vs smeech is the best scene from arcane
@dontaekelsey6963
@dontaekelsey6963 Ай бұрын
Ppl claiming season 2 is rushed I don’t get it , season 1 had a time skip after 3 episodes throwing you dead smack in the middle of turmoil and season 1 ended with even more turmoil erupting what did ppl expect in season 2 ? I completely expected us to spearhead to the end
@Xflieslove
@Xflieslove Ай бұрын
I don’t remember season 1’s pacing that well but I’m assuming people say season 2 feels rushed because of the way they edit scenes like how they switch from different characters and settings back and forth. But I did feel like the show was always straight to the point
@dontaekelsey6963
@dontaekelsey6963 Ай бұрын
@ I agree but I also feel like that’s what was happening in season 1 as well we got introduced to different characters their motivations and battles all the cutting away . Jayce viktor Mel Silco even the high council was getting cut away screen time etc all these characters had personal screen time after being cut away from other things goin on but they would all eventually lead to the same place like a dominio effect
@dontaekelsey6963
@dontaekelsey6963 Ай бұрын
@ not saying this in a defensive way because it seems like you on board with me but go watch season 1 when you got time you’ll see the pacing and cut away moments to other characters honestly falls right in line with season 2
@bxl2012
@bxl2012 Ай бұрын
​@@dontaekelsey6963It's not about what season 2 does the same as season 1. It is about what it does differently. There were a lot of scenes in season one that showed character motivations. Dialogue that showed the inner state of characters. And if a character would flip, it was very well motivated. In the new season the viewer has to actively explain themselves a lot of things to make it work as the show doesn't take the time anymore to do it. Some people have no problems with that. You seem one of them. I don't like that at all. For me the show went from outstanding to only "good" in season 2.
@dontaekelsey6963
@dontaekelsey6963 Ай бұрын
@ because they are expecting you to already know these motivations based off season 1 bro
@Nanp90
@Nanp90 Ай бұрын
It’s arcane!! Every time a new Act starts it feels like there’s an act we missed. It’s always been like this so I don’t see why we should care now
@wolfieboi5996
@wolfieboi5996 Ай бұрын
It’s crazy how he predicted episode 8 at 4:33 💀
@grandpretredesalpagas4665
@grandpretredesalpagas4665 Ай бұрын
It's not a cult village, it's an independent commune of share resources and beliefs centred around a miracle healer ! I can't believe you'd call that a cult !
@blueblack3591
@blueblack3591 Ай бұрын
We dont know she is dead!
@reder1290
@reder1290 Ай бұрын
Sometimes less is more. Thats why this show is so refined and its core ideas. Not single second wasted. Yes, i would have love to watch 100 more episodes with Jinx and Isha having fun, but in meantime they might lose the plot and forget what makes it great. Its better this way
@stellamariefanboy.6768
@stellamariefanboy.6768 Ай бұрын
Eh. I still think there should’ve been a few extra minutes to explain Vi and Caitlyn diverging arcs. I do agree that the other arcs aren’t rushed however. I’ve thought about how they could’ve extended the other arcs after people have complained about it but then I realized its not needed, and would’ve just dragged on longer than necessary.
@CoachSagi
@CoachSagi Ай бұрын
@@stellamariefanboy.6768 npc opinion, i dont think you-d have this opinion if you had not seen it in a youtube video, the pacing is fine
@reder1290
@reder1290 Ай бұрын
@@stellamariefanboy.6768 after i had some time to absorb the finale, i think story would have benefited from few extra minutes to flesh out Ekko and Jinx after her suicide attemt, but thats just me.
@miskarice
@miskarice Ай бұрын
2:20 I feel your pain🤣🤣
@qaztim11
@qaztim11 Ай бұрын
I could actually see the pacing and this idea of "too many ideas, not enough time" being a plot point in the show Emphasis on Not enough time, since that is Ekkos main thing in the canon. His color story is all about him trying over and over to save people and failing constantly. I hope we get a groundhog day/ReZero section with Ekko,Heimer and Jayce going trough multiple loops before coming up with the plan to send Jayce back to kill Viktor This could give more time to explore certain things that feel rushed while also progressing the plot Viktor is Judas, thats the subversion, the other subversion is that Ekko is Jesus in this analogy since Jinx calls him "the boy saviour" in S1
@parsaplayz4857
@parsaplayz4857 Ай бұрын
Imo we should have had an extra act for this season just for all the diffrent ideas presented to be explored and touched on a bit more, also something to fill the time skip with so it doesnt feel as empty. But overall its still very fine
@ritikamudabidri7680
@ritikamudabidri7680 Ай бұрын
I felt like we spent enough time with everyone because unlike season 1, all the writer’s might have had to do is let the dominos fall. The pieces were there, and all that had to happen was pow.
@Duckamoly
@Duckamoly Ай бұрын
"I read the spoilers" *shows the bible* AMAZING
@xaviernew5173
@xaviernew5173 Ай бұрын
I've heard that the writers of Arcane chose to close the story on their own terms as there was talk of it being approved for 5 seasons and they wanted to finish the story the way they wanted to instead of being forced to drag it out and ruin it just because its popular. Rewatching with that in mind it makes a lot more sense.
@adrianbiedrzycki9141
@adrianbiedrzycki9141 Ай бұрын
Isha's death is emotional but pointless... She saw how both Jinx and VI still care about Vander in his Warwick form, they were both far away from him as the main danger and on top of that Isha saw his regenerative abilities, yet she decided to kill him and herself also hurting Jinx and VI as a result... WHY?! Even if she managed to kill Warwick, he's still valuable to Singed in that form + he can most likely create a new one if not resurect him... I know she's just a child and so creators of the show showed her in that light but still, how is killing someone Jinx loves going to fix anything?! Still emotional tho, still made me cry...
@terrellstucks2017
@terrellstucks2017 Ай бұрын
I believe the scene pinpoints Isha’s instinct. From her perspective, she thought Jinx was in need of saving, the same person who saved her multiple times. Her thought process was, “I have to do something to help,” not necessarily “I have to sacrifice myself.” She learned to “protect the family” through her relationship Jinx, rather than being aware of consequences.
@iOfTheStormm
@iOfTheStormm Ай бұрын
Missed the whole point, you did.
@stellamariefanboy.6768
@stellamariefanboy.6768 Ай бұрын
It is a parallel to jinx to be fair, she did the same thing and it proved to be useless also because Vi and the others ended up saving Vander anyway.
@stellamariefanboy.6768
@stellamariefanboy.6768 Ай бұрын
@@iOfTheStormm say the whole point then if you know it instead of just giving a statement
@balamurugand300
@balamurugand300 Ай бұрын
I feel even more bad watching this video after completing ACT 3
@Moss_piglet13
@Moss_piglet13 Ай бұрын
Act twi was almost like movie pacing. Like its believable if i suspend my disbelief but it feels a little too fast paced
@nixeff7196
@nixeff7196 Ай бұрын
Whats the deku image while you where editing at 1:13? U should release the video anyway i wanna know why deku is in arcane!
@brian0057
@brian0057 Ай бұрын
If they manage to give Jinx a good ending, I'm gonna be pissed. This show is too good to be dropping the ball that bad in the final stretch.
@bestblerd5042
@bestblerd5042 Ай бұрын
Almost no one understands how a time skip works. Whenever scenes flash quickly its implied that weeks or months have passed. Caitlyn did not move on quickly its been... we dont know how long. Similarly, Jinx didnt do a 180, she had... we dont know how many experiences of joy with isha. Time heals and time erodes. Things change over time and when you have a time skip or montauge, things naturally will be sped up. We dont need more time, we just need to realize what the show is trying to do.
@stellamariefanboy.6768
@stellamariefanboy.6768 Ай бұрын
(On the jinx thing) True and you can tell Jinx was losing more X from just her clothing. To symbolize she no longer felt like jinx… she didn’t know what she was really.. and I’m guessing it implied she wasn’t hearing voices at that point either. (I could be wrong) until after Isha’s capture…
@justnick47
@justnick47 Ай бұрын
this season feels like it falls victim to fan service. there's a lot of introductions to characters and ideas from league and we're just kind of expected to know what and who they are. like i felt this ESPECIALLY with the black rose stuff. i watch the episode and im like wtf was that?? what just happened. then everyone in the comments is saying it's the black rose and thats how i figured it out. i shouldn't have to do research to know what's going on. it's my biggest problem with marvel these days and though i do feel arcane does it BETTER, i prefer that a show is able to have everything feel clear and not confusing.
@einherjar4902
@einherjar4902 Ай бұрын
I have to disagree. I have absolutely no clue about lol. I feel those places where we "should know" a character to be a mystery for me to uncover. Lol players will see the black rose scenes and know and anticipate who is coming or acting. I see it as a "oh there is this secret organisation pulling strings in the background with interesting powers. Cant wait to find out more about them" Its 2 different angles for different groups of people and i think it works out perfectly fine
@CoachSagi
@CoachSagi Ай бұрын
bro are you stupid? the whole point of the black rose is being a hidden organization... they are supposed to be a mystery. and they are there because of the hex stuff, they control people who use magic so that they have a monopoly on it and dont let others control magic. thats the whole reason ambessa appeared in s1.
@kbachelder
@kbachelder Ай бұрын
Love your Arcane videos. Thank you.
@aelalkaualmadias8502
@aelalkaualmadias8502 Ай бұрын
ok this was great aaaaaand subbed
@77Night77Shade77
@77Night77Shade77 Ай бұрын
I'll be interested to see the interviews that come out post-season-finale, as I distinctly remember Christian Linke and Alex Yee being asked whether or not there was anything they wished they'd had more time to work on in the first season, to which their answer came down to pretty much exclusively the Jinx vs Ekko fight scene on the bridge. Other than that, it really seemed like everything more or less went as planned. I see a lot of people saying season 2 has been somewhat fast-paced, but somehow I have a feeling they'd give the same reply this time around.
@CoachSagi
@CoachSagi Ай бұрын
the whole story of the whole show was planned since 9 years ago including this season. people are just delusional repeating negative npc opinions like human chatgpts
@ShannonErikaDrewAEdano
@ShannonErikaDrewAEdano Ай бұрын
The beat your heart out part, reminded me of that Ricardio ep from Adventure Time 😂
@JinxedThoughts
@JinxedThoughts Ай бұрын
OH MY GOD I SHOULD HAVE JUST USED THAT CLIP! I totally forgot about Recardio
@ShannonErikaDrewAEdano
@ShannonErikaDrewAEdano Ай бұрын
@JinxedThoughts you can still use it in your future vids 😭🙏
@ColeDaMole757
@ColeDaMole757 Ай бұрын
I Cant imagine how long this all took to edit, im just getting into eiditng and im curious how long you spend on voice overs, gathering clips and songs, and flipping your cat back and forth
@JinxedThoughts
@JinxedThoughts Ай бұрын
Oooooh boy. It's very differant from person to person but for me it can really depend. This video I was able to throw together in about 24h but that was also constant work during those 24h. How I useally do it is that I kinda imagine how I want the video to be going while I'm writing the script and then wirite in notes about edits I want to make. Then after that I go through and edit the audio. Making sure everything sound fine, editing out pauses and finalizing how long I want the video to be. Then it's on to the editing phase. This usually takes the longest. I really like doing new things and have things move around and doing stuff on the screen which can take a while (basically move the picture/png frame by frame). So depending on how much stuff you want to do it can be anywhere between a single day or months. Even editing just a short can take hours. TLDR: Editing can be hard and WILL take a long time but it's also extremely rewarding and fun. It's hard giving pointers on editing because I find it best to just kinda experiment your way forward so you can develop your own style. Make a few videos. Try doing a small amount of editing on something and then try doing something crazy for another project. See what you like and then work from there
@JinxedThoughts
@JinxedThoughts Ай бұрын
I would say this is one of my lesser edited videos even. If you want to see something crazy then go check out "The BEST Character in Mushoku Tensei: Jobless Reincarnation" Video
@ColeDaMole757
@ColeDaMole757 Ай бұрын
@@JinxedThoughts Thanks For The Imput Bro
@catarinaferreira6905
@catarinaferreira6905 Ай бұрын
I know it kinda sound delulu but I have a FEELING that we might get a mini series about those time skips...? idk...I'm going insane.
@v3ra30
@v3ra30 Ай бұрын
brodern sa "ajsha" nice video iallafall!
@Strix2031
@Strix2031 Ай бұрын
Fun fact nobody realises that Ambessa is supposed to be Caitlyn's mentor and that they actually have a somewhat deeper relationship with how little of it is shown. We really needed at least a extra arc with just caitlyn and ambessa with vi and jinx on the other side and mybe a bit of viktor
@kemopie2972
@kemopie2972 Ай бұрын
LMMAOOO HIS REACTION
@mkraulis
@mkraulis Ай бұрын
I think Caitlyn had two motivations for being mad at Vi, in act 1, the familial revenge one and the ending of martial law.
@ShadowMoon96
@ShadowMoon96 Ай бұрын
Next season needs to be about Leblanc and noxus black rose
@anastasia_852
@anastasia_852 Ай бұрын
Honestly I think Arcane needed at least 3 seasons. The magic/hexcore stuff could've been the main plot of S3 while S2 would kinda work as a build up for it. This way there could've been more time to explore the character changes (dictator Cait, Heimer and Ekko, Jinx and Isha, emo Vi and such) but it is what it is, act 2 is still GREAT
@Little-Buster
@Little-Buster Ай бұрын
Ekko will fix everything.
@bxl2012
@bxl2012 Ай бұрын
No.
@huntermonroe347
@huntermonroe347 Ай бұрын
This is probably not an original take but I imagine that the events of act 2 will be reversed or changed drastically by time travel that may save Isha and give Jinx a happy-ish ending
@jotsu4491
@jotsu4491 Ай бұрын
Man, honestly idk how TF they gonna shove “all the story” within the next few episodes, because this is the final final season. So my guess is a poorly rushed ending. Man why they don’t wanna have jinx happy. After they kill Isha, it make me think, good thing I’ve never played League of Legends. kekw.
@stellamariefanboy.6768
@stellamariefanboy.6768 Ай бұрын
My guess is that it’ll be longer. And that’s really the only way to salvage it. Though I also kinda doubt my guess since they are going to air the last 3 episodes in a batch
@stellamariefanboy.6768
@stellamariefanboy.6768 Ай бұрын
Well, a lot of the characters do not yet look like their characters in league we still need their storylines. And Jinx will most likely be treated the same way. I think the other problem is that they also are planning to do a different show centered on different characters and that may be the reason why there’s a lot going on
@-...dj...-
@-...dj...- Ай бұрын
LMAO, imagine making a theory of "Isha's future" when she is the most objectively obvious "I'm going to die" character.
@Why_TABG
@Why_TABG Ай бұрын
Isha isn’t dead isha isn’t dead isha isn’t dead
@ritikamudabidri7680
@ritikamudabidri7680 Ай бұрын
Why do we need to know everything?
@Yxann.999
@Yxann.999 Ай бұрын
Who's Aisha??? It's Isha, ee-sha. Ik you must be white or something and not familiar with ee pronunciation (like people saying aissa instead off issa)but common, jinx literally yells EESHA
@t2nexx561
@t2nexx561 Ай бұрын
Piltover? Wasnt it Jayce who killed Viktor sending Warwick into a rampage or am I missing something?
@JinxedThoughts
@JinxedThoughts Ай бұрын
Jayce is a part of the piltover council and the man who invented Hextech (along with Victor) which is where this what started this whole mess. + It wasn't just Warwick that made Isha sacrifice herself. It was also the enforcers and Noxian literally charging at them as well.
@t2nexx561
@t2nexx561 Ай бұрын
@@JinxedThoughts Huh, did we watch the same thing? Isha had no inclination towards noxian her sacrifices was solely on the bases of saving Jinx who Warwick attacked and was going to continue doing so. At this point we're just being willfully blind for some reason.
@JinxedThoughts
@JinxedThoughts Ай бұрын
​@@t2nexx561 ​ You don't think they all saw and heared the giant Noxian general shouting "CHARGE" and an army of Noxious and enforcers running towards them? The same Army that Is literally runs through to get to WW?
@t2nexx561
@t2nexx561 Ай бұрын
@@JinxedThoughts What does this have to do with Isha sacking herself? Warwick attacked Jinx and wasn't going to stop, Jinx was in trouble and Isha stepped in I dont see how this is refutable.
@ryanmatthews3609
@ryanmatthews3609 Ай бұрын
this whole "series" will be all for nothing when the finale comes.
@xviablex2416
@xviablex2416 Ай бұрын
what does this mean?
@jinxie_maude
@jinxie_maude Ай бұрын
oh my gods why is everyone sturuggling with this, jinx actively says her name in the show there's no reason so many people should be butchering it like this its really not a hard name say it w me *e - sha* not *eye - sha* 😭😭😭
@meilo129
@meilo129 Ай бұрын
ok i know basically nothing about LoL and also just started watching this video but wouldn't a fast paced, no closure ending be fitting since jinx from the game is far too deranged for a person who got the closure they needed???idk but if they DO make a good ending fast paced, i think that's what will be distasteful
@meilo129
@meilo129 Ай бұрын
BUT İ DO WANT TO SEE İSHA ALİVE😭😭😭😭😭AND EVERYONE HAPPY
@danutghidia5820
@danutghidia5820 Ай бұрын
its so obvious Jinx is and will always be the favorite. Cuz the amount of character work she got in season 1 and 2 its almost more than all characters from Arcane combined and it kinda sucks. I know she`s the most popular, but at least try to not look biased in your show
@iOfTheStormm
@iOfTheStormm Ай бұрын
Its quite literally Jinx's story ?
@danutghidia5820
@danutghidia5820 Ай бұрын
@iOfTheStormm it's supposed to be Vi and Jinx's story.
@iOfTheStormm
@iOfTheStormm Ай бұрын
@@danutghidia5820 maybe. But it's very clearly not. It's primarily Jinx's story.
@danutghidia5820
@danutghidia5820 Ай бұрын
@@iOfTheStormm which is literally what i said in my main comment
@iOfTheStormm
@iOfTheStormm Ай бұрын
@@danutghidia5820 so you're agreeing that it's a good thing, because that's the focus. Good.
@davidpavel5017
@davidpavel5017 Ай бұрын
Its Ee-sha not Aisha
@Stallnig
@Stallnig Ай бұрын
I can't stand your format, but I agree with your points.
@mrbushido56
@mrbushido56 Ай бұрын
Do you have a link 4 ur discord can't find it
@skytheemperor
@skytheemperor Ай бұрын
Isha is alive. Right?
@isahmoon3227
@isahmoon3227 Ай бұрын
Why spelling Isha like that tho 😢 aside from that, great video (I get butthurt bc ppl mispronounce my name in the same way all the time)
@stirfrysensei
@stirfrysensei Ай бұрын
Time skips are bad now? Ok…
@stellamariefanboy.6768
@stellamariefanboy.6768 Ай бұрын
Yes.
@MegaDuke4life
@MegaDuke4life Ай бұрын
I disagree. We got more context of Vi cage fighting depression and Jinx revolution uprising. Then the mental turmoil of Vi being in prison all her life. Seems like all we really got from that is tattoos and a guard mentioning doing things
@andreaven2287
@andreaven2287 Ай бұрын
Isha is just a plot device for Jinx + things are so rushed characters don't makes any sense. Arcane 2 is just disapointing.
@CoachSagi
@CoachSagi Ай бұрын
npc
@thefnaffangamer323
@thefnaffangamer323 Ай бұрын
😢😢
@ani-ma-tion5326
@ani-ma-tion5326 Ай бұрын
Too many ideas, not enough time, is the perfect way to describe this season. Everything felt extremely crunched together, rushed, and out of place. I’m assuming this is because they originally planned for more seasons and got cut down to one, for whatever reason, now they’re attempting to push seasons worth of character development and storylines into ONE, and the overall feel ends up being all over the place, a bit disappointing in my opinion.
@darkpain2452
@darkpain2452 Ай бұрын
Actually they doesn't want to work more year to create season 3, because they only work in 11 character, they want to get faster other series, maybe was better to have at least 3 season, but they decided finished in 2 and now focus in next series
@connoryalizburg695
@connoryalizburg695 Ай бұрын
yall havent even seen act 3 yet :|
@sunnygrassx216
@sunnygrassx216 Ай бұрын
It's truly a wonder how even after hearing her name in the show y'all continue to mispronounce her name, have some respect
@stellamariefanboy.6768
@stellamariefanboy.6768 Ай бұрын
How to say name? I keep forgetting
@MN-vz8qm
@MN-vz8qm Ай бұрын
Unfortunately, it is all over the place with rushed arcs, while other scenes and characters take screen time while being completely useless in the grand scheme of things (the entire squad of cait and Mel arc should have gone to the trashcan). The dialogs are a downgrade too (Jinx monologs, the discussion between Caitlin and Jayce on the bench in ep1 etc..), and clearly there are numerous script tricks showing the lack of imagination of the scriptwriters (for example the flashbacks we see, showing that ambessa was the traitor, or later that cait was siding with vi, in both case to nobody's surprise). Characters are in full chaos; for example we left Jinx completely psycho in season 1 (she already was wacko in ep 4 before Singed changed her), but in season 2, appart from screaming once or twice, she is perfectly fine. And as a closing peiece, the sacrifice of Isha makes no sense, Jinx was in no immediate threat, they could have run away together. I could continue on and on, but the gist of it is simply that while season 1 was really mature (not perfect, but great), season 2 looks like any mindless japanese anime.
@SachikojoyBatac
@SachikojoyBatac Ай бұрын
I feel like jinx and Warwick is gonna die together trust me
@tylerkennedy3207
@tylerkennedy3207 Ай бұрын
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