Too much REM sleep: why do depressed people wake up exhausted? | Human Givens

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@YugeYun
@YugeYun 10 жыл бұрын
Wow, i sleep a lot, dream a lot and feel absolutely awful in the morning. Getting up the bed is so hard. going go bed is hard too. I hate it so much when everybody else seems to have it so easy and complain about my difficulty to sleep at normal times.
@SiLatics56
@SiLatics56 9 жыл бұрын
Have things improved at all?
@YugeYun
@YugeYun 9 жыл бұрын
+SiLatics56 Thanks for asking. I'm happy to say that yes things have improved. I moved out of my parents place to live with my friends which had a positive effect on my mental health. Furthermore I got a job and got motivated to really learn to go to bed early. I've always struggled with this, but somehow it worked this time. I guess mostly because we are all working and waking up early, so our household gets quiet at 9 pm. Also when there's no homework anymore, I don't feel so stressed in the evening. It's also basic things that I've started to do in the evening. Whenever I feel stressed I spend a day without computer doing something I like. Go jogging and to sauna, read a book, draw, knit, bake etc. Really basic stuff but it seems to relax the brain in different way than computer. It seems that when I go to bed at 10 pm, I'm always much more refreshed the next day that going at 3 pm, regardless of sleeping the same amount of hours. I guess I'm starting to believe that the body is made for maintaining normal rhythm. It's hard to explain what changed since people always told me these things, but I couldn't do it. I still dream a lot (although a less than before) and when I have stressful periods at work, sometimes I struggle to fall asleep. Then I might take a sleeping pill. But I guess mostly my life is a bit less stressful right now and therefore my mental health is in better condition.. so sleeping is easier too.
@SiLatics56
@SiLatics56 9 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that and some good points raised there. It's one thing knowing what to do but the key is putting it into practice.
@Back-Space.
@Back-Space. 6 жыл бұрын
Is that Kim Jaejoong? Lol
@interracialsuspect5300
@interracialsuspect5300 6 жыл бұрын
Bruh I've been wondering for year why I have so much love dreams that just decimate the next few days. I've been having them for since childhood lmao and it makes sense now, i've been embarrassed to tell people because I don't feel like finding love is something acceptable to strive for, but I guess it's most likely a big chunk of how I can help myself since i don't help myself at all atm I hope you get better my dude
@maxdaniels5764
@maxdaniels5764 4 жыл бұрын
I'm an editor and I once worked on a book with a sleep therapist. I told him that I dreamed all night long and as a result, I woke up exhausted. He said he had never heard of such a thing. That was 26 years ago. I hope he knows better now.
@Nyuffykah
@Nyuffykah 4 жыл бұрын
It is definately a thing for many of us! Strange that person has a degree as "sleep therapist".
@hotwasabi1085
@hotwasabi1085 Жыл бұрын
None of my therapists, doctors, or psychiatrists have taken me seriously when I’ve explained this
@jean19681
@jean19681 Жыл бұрын
How did you deal with it.
@jean19681
@jean19681 Жыл бұрын
​@@hotwasabi1085how you doing now?
@Drshrikantshrirame
@Drshrikantshrirame 11 ай бұрын
How u recovered plz tell me
@WhatTheStav
@WhatTheStav 7 жыл бұрын
I used to feel alone, after watching this, I realised I'm not, I'm far from alone.
@MicahRion
@MicahRion 5 жыл бұрын
Steven Whittaker ❤️
@depressedgaysassyitalianre5748
@depressedgaysassyitalianre5748 5 жыл бұрын
Not alone at all!
@MariaMahmood_
@MariaMahmood_ Жыл бұрын
You are not alone!
@tryptamine-loopring-eth
@tryptamine-loopring-eth 10 ай бұрын
Tired gang with you bro, hope youre sleeping better
@LedibelloLedi-hs3so
@LedibelloLedi-hs3so 8 ай бұрын
Please if you are complete free from depression say hi to me
@RubyCoughDrop
@RubyCoughDrop 7 жыл бұрын
I don't know about this guy's credentials, but what he says makes a lot of intuitive sense.
@unwinsis
@unwinsis 5 жыл бұрын
This man has described EXACTLY what I've been experiencing since overcoming alcohol dependency 2 years ago. I thought I might be addicted to sleep in addition to suffering from depression, but this guy honestly just explained my daily struggle word for word. Incredible, thank you so much for the work you're doing. I'm so excited to learn more!
@NeepThePeep
@NeepThePeep 8 жыл бұрын
I didn't even know there was connections. I dream all the time, very vividly. It gets worse when I hit deeper stages of depression.
@nightcollapse
@nightcollapse 4 жыл бұрын
@Diyar Aydın why dont your i's have the dot?
@meerschweinchenn
@meerschweinchenn 6 жыл бұрын
ever since i was a teen i used sleep as a coping mechanism for my depression. in high school, id come home, do homework, then sleep from 4:30/5:00 pm to 5:45 am rinse and repeat. im addicted to sleep. i revolve my days around sleep. if people try to make plans with me before 4 pm, i tell them im busy. 4 pm is like 8 am to me. now almost a decade later, i have chronic fatigue and its been a struggle for many years. i feel like i cant function for more than a few hours after waking up, if even that much. i sleep 9-12 or more hours, then nap during the day. my sleep is primarily dreaming. and my dreams are super intense, very detailed. ive always noticed i dream and remember dreams way more than everyone else, but i never associated it with my depression. but it makes a lot of sense. ive never had it explained to me this way. i want to try to fight this and create a healthier sleep cycle for myself. thank you.
@Jst4fun817
@Jst4fun817 5 жыл бұрын
This is ME. But I've known for a long time that it's associated with my depression. It's only when i see these comments i realise I'm not the only one in the world struggling with it.
@ukhtidkv121
@ukhtidkv121 4 жыл бұрын
How are you now?
@meerschweinchenn
@meerschweinchenn 4 жыл бұрын
@@ukhtidkv121 the exact same LOL
@jazmin82391
@jazmin82391 4 жыл бұрын
@@meerschweinchenn Might be a silly and obvious question but have you thought of seeking ANY kind of help if you yet haven’t...
@meerschweinchenn
@meerschweinchenn 4 жыл бұрын
@@jazmin82391 i tried speaking to a pcp about it all hoping to get the ball rolling on therapy, sleep studies, endocrinologist/neurologist referrals, etc. they took the lazy route and insisted i take lexapro. i turned down the offer. i want to try talking to people experienced with various issues and get to the root of my intense chronic fatigue and daytime sleepiness before popping random medications offered by a family physician, who for sure doesn't have the expertise on these issues.
@Jst4fun817
@Jst4fun817 5 жыл бұрын
This video almost made me cry to see someone address what I've been going through for years.
@Badbitchwitch
@Badbitchwitch Жыл бұрын
It’s awful and people brush it off
@xWabbli
@xWabbli 10 ай бұрын
Same... I feel you. And I hope it'll get better for you.
@LedibelloLedi-hs3so
@LedibelloLedi-hs3so 8 ай бұрын
If you healed completely from depression tell me
@AdnanKhan-kg6ek
@AdnanKhan-kg6ek 5 ай бұрын
How r u feeling now ? I'm suffering from the same thing but I don't know what to do ? Did u take any treatment ?
@528hrtz
@528hrtz 7 жыл бұрын
Wow... you literally said everything I’ve been experiencing
@Morchebab
@Morchebab 5 жыл бұрын
Same. Almost started crying 1min in. He understands.
@depressedgaysassyitalianre5748
@depressedgaysassyitalianre5748 5 жыл бұрын
Alexander Mörch I just watched this and I started crying too! Someone who understands and gets it, and has an explanation!! It’s more powerful than people realize. Knowledge is power. But I did start crying because I’m 24 and people always ask me “why are you so tired you didn’t do _that_ much today” or “you’re too young to be so tired”! I get this all the time and I feel like I’m being shamed :/
@sriwahyanibudianingsih1534
@sriwahyanibudianingsih1534 5 жыл бұрын
@@depressedgaysassyitalianre5748 I'm 28 and I've been doing the same for 4 years! I need help! But visiting psychiatrists didn't do any help other than spending hundreds of dollars
@roteastefan5785
@roteastefan5785 5 жыл бұрын
And i thought i am the only one having this problems.
@gigima1976
@gigima1976 Жыл бұрын
I dream every single night. I wake up tired and extremely depressed in the morning. I can’t explain the level of depression. It’s like a sick feeling in my stomach accompanied by feelings of doom. Like a dark shadow.
@dreamcxfe
@dreamcxfe Жыл бұрын
this is also exactly how i feel put into words, you are not alone ❤
@Sudhanshuvattssharma
@Sudhanshuvattssharma Жыл бұрын
Same here
@AvrilPeard
@AvrilPeard 11 ай бұрын
That describes me completely
@Sky10811
@Sky10811 8 ай бұрын
did you do blood tests for thyroid, vit D, iron, magnesium, sex hormones, glucose, cortisol? i would start there
@KevinCummingsFitness
@KevinCummingsFitness 7 жыл бұрын
I never wanna leave bed
@ex0ticfr3quency33
@ex0ticfr3quency33 6 жыл бұрын
I can't stand going to bed. My dreams are so vivid and excessive I'm scared to go to sleep. Thats when you know something is fucked up!
@losangelesoriginals7432
@losangelesoriginals7432 5 жыл бұрын
@@ex0ticfr3quency33 i deal with something similat, im scared to sleep because im scared ill never wake up..idk hard to explain the worries
@sriwahyanibudianingsih1534
@sriwahyanibudianingsih1534 5 жыл бұрын
@@losangelesoriginals7432 I feel you coz I am doing the same! Maybe only depressed people understand other depressed people but the problem is they don't know how to handle it except to end the pain
@julietteSoul
@julietteSoul 5 жыл бұрын
GANG RELATED I don’t care if I wake up or not , I want more sleep🤦🏻‍♀️
@naboys.
@naboys. 3 жыл бұрын
@@ex0ticfr3quency33 just lucid dream
@pinkfurryhat
@pinkfurryhat 8 жыл бұрын
This would make a lot of sense. I dream a lot and its a big reason i choose to go back to sleep; my dreams are interesting. Maybe if i can wake myself up between dreams i wont be dead tired in the morning
@brendensipple3908
@brendensipple3908 2 жыл бұрын
Man this describes me perfectly. I sleep ab 9-10 hours a night and wake up feeling like I could sleep another 10 hours. Every night I have these vivid dreams or nightmares where I wake up and I can recall every detail ab what happened and every detail ab who was in it. I hate it and I don’t understand how to fix it
@ritikrathi2230
@ritikrathi2230 Жыл бұрын
Did it get better? If yes then how?
@SirButton-
@SirButton- Жыл бұрын
I hope you're doing better now
@N9grg
@N9grg Жыл бұрын
Set a sleep routine for example sleep from 2200 to 0700 and follow this routine every day. No matter what. If you could it sleep in those hours still wake up at 0700 and only go to sleep at 2200. Keep this routine , yoga in the morning and strech before bed will help you. My dreams are like 3 hour long movies and I talk a lot in my sleep. I react punching kicking swinging if there is threat in my dream. Waking up shouting swearing and swinging for punch scares me n my family. I am more active in my sleep than when I am awake. I live in my dream. I am in the same boat as you
@TheMisslili8
@TheMisslili8 Жыл бұрын
Ever since I was a young kid. Trauma stole my soul. I remember so many of my dreams from years ago and they're so vivid even when I think about it to this day traumatize me like I actually lived the experience
@Drshrikantshrirame
@Drshrikantshrirame 11 ай бұрын
​@@N9grghow u recovered
@HumanGivens
@HumanGivens 18 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching it - getting the link between depression and REM sleep recognised is a really important issue - i hope you can pass this video on to others who might find it interesting as well
@KE-xj9vm
@KE-xj9vm Жыл бұрын
This is the first time I’ve heard someone describe my experience. I’m not depressed but I’m burnt out and never feel refreshed. I Have incredibly vivid random and often stressful dreams that don’t seem at all related to my actual life stresses. I’ve wished for so long that I could just stop dreaming
@sarahar616
@sarahar616 Жыл бұрын
My earliest memory of childhood I’ve ALWAYS experienced intense and multiple dreams every night even at 39. This has never changed. And yes I’m ALWAYS exhausted and need far more sleep then I know I should. Chronic depression and anxiety has gotten worse as I’ve aged
@bortlett420
@bortlett420 17 жыл бұрын
deppresion is a very sad thing i have it along with severe anxiety, one could say it immobilise your life in all aspect.
@marliesyanke4580
@marliesyanke4580 3 жыл бұрын
420, same here but I cant sleep more than 2 hours average, usually finally about 5 A M.
@clintonyong4757
@clintonyong4757 9 жыл бұрын
This is exactly the situation I am in now. This video is great. Thank you for uploading
@JordanTMSDF
@JordanTMSDF 4 жыл бұрын
I seriously can't take this anymore. I can "sleep" nearly 10 hours but it's 10 hours of nightmares and restless muscles. I don't consider myself depressed, in fact I'm quite happy day to day. But I truly just want to fall asleep and never wake up. I'd do anything to make my brain stop processing.
@Sky10811
@Sky10811 8 ай бұрын
try psychologist, especially right down ur dreams and discuss them. it s a subconscious trying to highlight things to you
@TrumpetSAE
@TrumpetSAE Жыл бұрын
It has been such a struggle having these vivid dreams! I started gaining weight because I lack non rem sleep and so my body can't repair from my workouts anymore. This has caused so much depression because the gym was my therapy. I gotta find a solution to this! Thanks for this video.
@badforme5925
@badforme5925 Жыл бұрын
Have you found a solution to the problem of lack NREM sleep?
@badforme5925
@badforme5925 Жыл бұрын
:( please help
@ravneet28
@ravneet28 Жыл бұрын
I am in the same situation as you. I used to love going to the gym and working out in general. Now it makes me feel too tired the next morning and my head will feel heavy. Did you find any solution?
@TrumpetSAE
@TrumpetSAE Жыл бұрын
@@ravneet28 I started taking vitamin B1 in the morning and D3 before bed. It helped me a lot. So now I'm getting sleep and feeling better when I wake up. Hope this helps.
@shunkela
@shunkela 7 жыл бұрын
This gives new meaning to "make your dreams a reality"
@DawsonDenise
@DawsonDenise 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video.
@Angel-gb9gi
@Angel-gb9gi 3 жыл бұрын
Ive always loved to sleep i could sleep my life away if allowed. Its just so hard to come out of that sleepy feeling like cortisol is not strong enough. I like 12 hours of sleep and ive been like that most of my life. I feel happy sleeping i feel free from the world and safe all snuggled up where no one will bother me. Getting up means i have to face all the yuck like cooking and cleaning...once i have 2 cups of coffee im good but it takes coffee to pull me out of wanting to crawl back in bed...i have no motivation or drive i just want to sleep and be left alone. Im a dreamer and go too deep in rem sleep. My dreams are usually nightmares. Sleep is wonderful to me if i was rich i would sleep 14 hours a day since i like it so much.
@gemmamclaughlan4373
@gemmamclaughlan4373 7 жыл бұрын
Your voice is so soothing, and this was helpful for me right now, thank you 🙏🏻
@indiabharat5014
@indiabharat5014 6 жыл бұрын
You look beautiful too
@plagueking777
@plagueking777 12 жыл бұрын
He is sooooo right I need people like this to understand people like me
@SiLatics56
@SiLatics56 9 жыл бұрын
I might have to look into this further. CBT (for me) was almost a complete waste of time. I dream a hell of a lot and my dreams are absolutely crazy, and I mean CRAZY! Just the weirdest stuff happening, often mirroring events and things that have happened to me in the past, but nearly always with added surrealism thrown in for good measure. I am often the victim of violence in dreams but I mostly fight back, or people I know are the victims of violence. I often dream of world disasters, terrorist attacks and so on. It all makes me pretty fucked up and often very tired and down in my waking life.
@SiLatics56
@SiLatics56 9 жыл бұрын
Ok cheers :)
@kinetichalo3552
@kinetichalo3552 9 жыл бұрын
i vividly dream too, i sleep hard and long. i have no problem waking up but im constantly exhausted... allday.
@SiLatics56
@SiLatics56 9 жыл бұрын
+Ashl Ey Sorry to hear that. Have you been through all this CBT stuff as well? How did you find it?
@SiLatics56
@SiLatics56 9 жыл бұрын
kinectic Halo It's a pain isn't it? 😖
@kinetichalo3552
@kinetichalo3552 9 жыл бұрын
i couldn't hold a straight thought so my confidence went, so socialzing nxt then depression..sense that post i was given sleeppills and i dont dream when i have one, but wake up "foggy" ..they havent helped the damage either.
@Journeyman-Fixit
@Journeyman-Fixit 16 жыл бұрын
i have to say that was so "right on the bullseye" it was actually refreshing! Thanks for the education.
@aimalkhan4609
@aimalkhan4609 4 жыл бұрын
You have very good understanding of clinical depression.
@lacrymal1
@lacrymal1 7 жыл бұрын
I was depressed through most of my teenage years well into my twenties and my dreams, which have always been vivid and intense, were of a different nature than now. I used to always have dreams where I'd be trying to get away from things but couldn't run fast, like my limbs weighed tons. Or I'd be trying to defend myself in a fight but couldn't seem to throw a punch with any force. I also had terrible bear dreams where I'd be trying to run and hide while hearing people getting mauled viscously. I can't pin point when my dreams changed, but it happened within the same time frame as my depression began lifting. It's crazy because I no longer run from shit in my dreams. I'm now the aggressor. My dreams are just as vivid and intense as ever, but now, I often wake up, afraid to tell people the shit I dreamt about, due to the disturbing, evil nature of the dreams. (You have no idea) So, I knew there had to be some connection.
@juniorsebahizi895
@juniorsebahizi895 6 жыл бұрын
lacrymal1 I’ve had the exact same dreams as you Do you struggle with resistance? or feel powerless in certain areas of your life or always trying to fight what is instead of accepting? That’s what those dreams symbolise I’m sure my dreams went away once I started reading and implementing the power of now
@HumanGivens
@HumanGivens 12 жыл бұрын
REM sleep is good but tires the motivation circuits in the brain, leaving you feeling exhausted upon waking if you have too much of it
@fabscoto
@fabscoto 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, this video was very enlightening, but what can I do when my medication actually augment REM sleep stage? I have greatly recovered from the depressive state and panic attacks thanks to this medication but unfortunately it has this tiresome side effect. Thank you for any advice you can provide.
@105aoquangkhanh3
@105aoquangkhanh3 3 жыл бұрын
@@fabscoto You stop dreaming by medications? Can you share it? I have the same problems as yours
@camcam2007
@camcam2007 17 жыл бұрын
wow... i just found out how damn depressed i really am... everything he said depressed people are supposed to feel, i've felt
@rontom-l4h
@rontom-l4h 7 жыл бұрын
maybe ,because dreams are better then real life
@sriwahyanibudianingsih1534
@sriwahyanibudianingsih1534 5 жыл бұрын
No, sometimes they are worse than real life! And it's called nightmare. Especially if it's involving dead body!
@allonifrah3465
@allonifrah3465 5 жыл бұрын
They are. I rarely have nightmares, but even my worst nightmares are a better experience than the monotonous shitshow that is waking life.
@InshasChoice
@InshasChoice 4 жыл бұрын
Dreams are better than reality. All I wanna do is weep my life
@MBGA2025
@MBGA2025 4 жыл бұрын
That's why I love to stay on. Bed dreaming they fascinate me
@MBGA2025
@MBGA2025 4 жыл бұрын
@@allonifrah3465 😂😂😂🙌
@indiced
@indiced 17 жыл бұрын
I study Law at the University, and I really feel: The more intelligent I am, the more exhausted I get... I must learn hard, read lots of books, repress sleeping and continuously abdabs of exams every week, pick up the pace... (a blessing in disguise that I have aberrant motivation, and still finding powers to keep me running;P) thank you for your video:)
@BlackoutsBox
@BlackoutsBox 5 жыл бұрын
this is the most exact explanation of how I feel and what I have bn going through that you can't explain to anyone without them going "just snap out of it"
@MRSketch09
@MRSketch09 17 жыл бұрын
Wow.. very informative informations. Make's sense and sounds logical. Thanks for the help! You talked slow and clear so it was easy to understand/comprehend. Look forward to more videos.
@tom14405
@tom14405 8 жыл бұрын
I moved out of my hometown in with my bf to a new town. I cant find a job and I quit everything else in my old home town. left a lot behind. having no job and nothing to do all day weighs on you. The last couple of nights I've been dreaming more than I ever have. My dreams have been more intense. This morning I woke my bf up by punching the wall in my sleep, I've been talking in my sleep and I've been depressed. What this dude just said made everything make so much more sense and also solidified what I thought was causing all this fatigue and lack of motivation.
@MayankSingh-pj2ud
@MayankSingh-pj2ud 7 жыл бұрын
Worring is real curse It's true ....
@retroplank
@retroplank 8 ай бұрын
Agreed
@extremistindustries
@extremistindustries 8 жыл бұрын
The best video on this subject I've come across; thanks
@andyg4518
@andyg4518 2 жыл бұрын
I have been feeling very depressed for years and self medicate with weed I’ve noticed my appearance diminish over time I have the worst eye bags ever I never knew depression could be effecting my sleep thank you
@nikdavies6736
@nikdavies6736 4 жыл бұрын
I had such an intense dream last night that haven’t felt alive since Ive woke up. It’s cruel how your own mind can tear you apart like this. I want to go back.
@claypoole13
@claypoole13 4 жыл бұрын
This video is very helpful,I have a opposite problem that causes exhaustion I have REM sleep behavior disorder for years I acted out my dreams when I was put on clonzapam because I also have anxiety it has stopped me from dreaming I still don't get enough rest because I don't get enough deep sleep I'm told nothing can treat that but I'm so thankful the klonopin blocks the dreams and my family and I are not in danger of what I could do acting them out,another thing this video really made me think about is have you all ever noticed that one of the biggest side effect of antidepressants is vivid dreams he's so smart I'm not saying stop your medication if it's causing dreams but they really need to find a way to make antidepressants that doesn't make you dream more and more vividly I hope this message finds you all well and maybe someday they will put all this together 🙏
@mocarnaigh
@mocarnaigh 16 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that. I avoid medication like the plague as I need to keep on top of things and I can't afford to be dropping down because of side effects. I firmly believe that through interaction and understanding of whats going on you can beat depression, and I think that gradually I'm doing that. Yes its a complete bastard a lot of the time, but this is me- not me + whatever drugs are in my system. Sleep is huge in this, and the knowledge that going to sleep worrying goes into dreams)is helpful.
@Onemanshowforever
@Onemanshowforever 13 жыл бұрын
I get brain fog during the day from my excessive rem sleep. It's funny, when I only sleep 4 hours in a night , I have no brain fog the next day. Does this happen to anyone else?
@FknNefFy
@FknNefFy 4 жыл бұрын
mrfunnyman99 me too
@nadezhdadulko1752
@nadezhdadulko1752 4 жыл бұрын
My aunt has slept 4 hours every night for many years. Maybe 4 hours is enough for you.
@markyoung2017
@markyoung2017 4 жыл бұрын
Yup! For me, there's some link to sinus infections - either they trigger or ARE triggered - somehow connected. The first signs are when the 4 hour sleep cycles start - I wake up in a BLINK at almost exactly 4 hours. I can stay in bed for 2 or 3 hours and get back to sleep for another 4... but it's miserable after that, and starts a 2 week chain, usually ending in a sinus infection. The excessive REM sleep (and remembering the dreams) is a constant for me, but during this cycle, they are more chaotic and detailed (visually rich textures, smells, even touch sensations). This happens about 4-5 times a year. Worth mentioning, I seem to have a 25 hour day cycle - pretty consistently.
@JenniferC26
@JenniferC26 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. I’ve found that the more sleep I get, the more tired I am waking up the following day. While running on less sleep, I’m more active and productive. It just makes no sense.
@tadoole
@tadoole 4 жыл бұрын
Yes...I was afraid to stop during a work week..or ever. Spun on high..til I would literally drop and sleep like 15 hrs on a Sunday..or the whole day. Resigned from my job and of Feb..then Covid. First few weeks, month..was okay enough,..but now that I've stopped, I'm dead in my tracks. Dread going to sleep cuz the dreams are sssoooo frikken emotional, downright awful and sad..lol, but hate getting up, 0 motivation and drained emotionally and physically from the gut wrenching dreams. This guy..hit the nail on the head. My story. Does the book help? I 'know" action creates more action..but I can't get the desire for action. FM, it's a downhill spiral. Knowing the answers makes it worse..praying always for a better day. Been eating too much as well, carb coma. Well phooey. Good luck all and blessings 🙏
@jasonvoorheestheslumpgod
@jasonvoorheestheslumpgod 6 ай бұрын
I’m so glad I found the video. Thank you very, very much.
@Scott-incognito
@Scott-incognito Жыл бұрын
I know for decades I have sleep issues but I know I do sleep, maybe 6 to 8 hours, once I cross that threshold - so then why ...why do I feel so exhausted when i wake. For the last month, I actually thought during the day (I can't function, work (I do but it is HARD) am I lazy? Then it dawned on me that no I am not, those intense dreams, feel like real, actual physical work, so in effect, I have done my 8 hours work, exhausted myself in my sleep. Knowing this and seeing this video that confirms it. (whilst not productive, real things must be done) at least I do not berate myself for being lazy anymore and this explains while during the day I can sit and stare at computer or out the window as if in a strange day sleep and that upside down World is where I get some form of rest that sleep deprives me of.
@bennguyen1313
@bennguyen1313 4 жыл бұрын
Being highly anxious/hyperaroused and being depressed are not the same..yet it's interesting how either will lead to entering REM-stage sleep faster and longer! Also strange how when one is hot, either due to sickness/flu, or externally from a hot bed, dreams also increase! There was a great HumanOs episode with Jennifer Goldschmied, where they discuss how sleep-deprivation, possibly just SLOW-WAVE NREM (not REM) sleep deprivation, seems to help mood and act as an antidepressant. They suggest waking-theta increases the longer you're awake and gets reset after slow-wave sleep, but if the slow-wave sleep is not working properly, then disrupting it you feel better!
@rarogcmex
@rarogcmex Жыл бұрын
SWS deprivation actually often increases SWS sleep proportion, because it is vital
@kabo0m
@kabo0m 16 жыл бұрын
wow that lift-depression site is amazing! Thanks for making this vid! I really needed your help right now. No one else has been able to! Thank you! What you say makes sense! Others haven't ..
@cannibalcatgirl
@cannibalcatgirl 11 ай бұрын
This is so interesting. I immediately dream as soon as I am asleep. Whether it’s a 10 minute nap or 12 hours. And I always feel exhausted. Not to mention as soon as I sit down I end up dosing. And the total lack of motivation is really disturbing. I’ve been diagnosed depressed for 13 years but only lately have I actively been noticing not deriving any joy from activities I used to. Feeling nothing. And that doesn’t help one want to get out of bed
@James-lu4en
@James-lu4en 11 ай бұрын
My intense vivid dreaming started 2.5 yrs ago or around the time of the Covid vaccine. Since then its daily exhaustion off the back of the most bizarre, elongated and lifelike dreams. It’s frightening. I have seen many other accounts just like mine.
@TestTubeBabySpy
@TestTubeBabySpy 8 жыл бұрын
I think i go into rem sleep too fast. wikipedia says rem sleep begins over an hour into sleep but i can start having dreams literally as soon as i doze off, with full sounds/visions everything.
@simplydusty330
@simplydusty330 8 жыл бұрын
same here bro, almost the minute my eyes close.
@robgreenawayy
@robgreenawayy 8 жыл бұрын
me too
@Lertpipopmetha
@Lertpipopmetha 7 жыл бұрын
This is also what's happening to me right now, are u guys better now?
@TestTubeBabySpy
@TestTubeBabySpy 7 жыл бұрын
its been like that my whole life, i wouldnt worry about it. i do get my dreams confused with real life sometimes tho lol
@Lertpipopmetha
@Lertpipopmetha 7 жыл бұрын
TestTubeBabySpy how many hours you get to sleep a night? It's never been like this when I was a lot younger, I could go 8-12 hours or even more than that if I wanted to and now I'm awake at every 6 hours a night
@GruffGames
@GruffGames 6 жыл бұрын
I just woke up exhausted, from a vivid dream at 3am. Then found this video, uncanny, guy knows his stuff. I haven't dreamed or remembered a dream for years, since being on antidepressants I always wake from a vivid dream. Well, this video swiftly answered my mind boggling questions.
@princessleia32
@princessleia32 17 жыл бұрын
This is the way forward. I have a Human Givens counsellor and have read the book and it DOES make you feel better. This is definitely the way to get rid of depression. Brilliant to figure it all out at last. I used to feel exhausted from dreaming and this has shown me how to get better. My respect to Ivan Tyrrell and Joe Griffin for their work fantastic.
@Drshrikantshrirame
@Drshrikantshrirame 9 ай бұрын
This book can solve this rem sleep problem? If yes plz tell me
@michaelthau1007
@michaelthau1007 11 ай бұрын
I have severe GAD and I have horrible chronic insomnia. When im actually able to sleep, its broken with constant dreaming. I think I may actually have more depression than I first realized. Makes sense now, im constantly exhausted. The only thing that helps is Lunesta, but doesn't always work. Many thanks for a wonderful video!!
@alpharomeo1772
@alpharomeo1772 3 жыл бұрын
Your video deserves more views. You have a absolutely nailed this.
@roryking1
@roryking1 2 жыл бұрын
anytime i dream i wake up tired like i havent slept. noticed it over the last year.glad there is science to it...been dreaming every night lately too.
@DMT768
@DMT768 6 жыл бұрын
I dream all night remember all of them so well allways wake up knackered for the past year or 2 this has been going on I need it to stop
@landshark25
@landshark25 17 жыл бұрын
wow i never knew this about exhaustion in the morning from dreaming,this explains my life down to a tea i have very intense vivid dreams and wake up exhausted
@RE1MEMBER
@RE1MEMBER 15 жыл бұрын
You kids are awesome! Seriously. Your problems are gifts, as hard as it is to see that. Look at it this way, you are way more mature than most your age because your issues have forced you to understand life in a deeper way than most.
@salexa171
@salexa171 6 жыл бұрын
I’m certain I’m not depressed but I get all the symptoms you discussed. Constant dreaming, feel like I’ve been up all night sometimes several days, followed by a lack of motivation.
@jaydeep6551
@jaydeep6551 2 жыл бұрын
I've same problem how is u now ?
@salexa171
@salexa171 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaydeep6551 I have two kids now so sleep is not longer an option 😂.
@jaydeep6551
@jaydeep6551 2 жыл бұрын
@@salexa171 but did i even improved a bit over time or not
@salexa171
@salexa171 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaydeep6551 I think so, never truly feels like it’s “normal” but I don’t think it’s as bad as it was.
@JasonLayton
@JasonLayton 15 жыл бұрын
I completely understand what you are saying, my question is: Is there anything that I can do about dreaming too much? Why is it happening? Thank you.
@rs1077
@rs1077 7 жыл бұрын
I feel exactly like this every day
@conclusivebeginning
@conclusivebeginning 13 жыл бұрын
his voice is so soothing
@johnsinger7819
@johnsinger7819 3 жыл бұрын
It's not that we're not going to bed early. We're just tired of the world!
@sherylwilliams54
@sherylwilliams54 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you soooo much for letting me know my constant exhaustion and the fact that I can never turn my brain off isn't my fault.... I'm so very tired of being tired.... I dream very vividly that I'm always trying to save the helpless being elderly people, children, animals anything... I just can't turn my brain off.... Please give me some advise.... I'm so tired of being tired,,,,
@YoungMin316
@YoungMin316 5 жыл бұрын
Sheryl Williams i have the same problem
@zekebraxton7921
@zekebraxton7921 3 жыл бұрын
hi has anything helped you because i been having the same issue for 8 months now and i just wanna be normal again :(
@sherylwilliams54
@sherylwilliams54 3 жыл бұрын
@@zekebraxton7921 honestly, not yet... but I do find if I work in the yard or the house a bit it helps tire me and helps me sleep better... I also use sleep sounds so I can concentrate on that...
@zekebraxton7921
@zekebraxton7921 3 жыл бұрын
@@sherylwilliams54 oh i see, have u had this problem since childhood or later than that?
@Lexx516
@Lexx516 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you soo much. You’re the first therapist/ Dr. that has revealed that to me. 🙏
@Larry21924
@Larry21924 11 ай бұрын
Excellently done; it's as thorough as a book that's a definitive text. "Better Sleep Better Life" by Various Authors
@MariamHafez89
@MariamHafez89 3 жыл бұрын
So whats the solution for not having to much REM sleep?
@debradurling317
@debradurling317 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you this has helped to just understand my dreams are very strange iv been woken up continually dreaming and I was very frightened . I was a child and it was going so fast images while I was awake so scary. Thank you again this has helped Becouse nobody has explained this to me. Sweet dreams x
@Coach_MarcyBob
@Coach_MarcyBob 7 ай бұрын
I have bipolar II. My sleep is AWFUL. I am tired 24/7. Every blue moon I receive a burst of energy/ happiness. But most of the time I live in the realm of melancholy. I wake up sleepy and tired. My dreams are like movies. Sometimes I feel as though I can smell and taste things. I don’t have many nightmares but my dreams can be so intense. Once I had a dream my daughter died. I was wrecked with so much grief in my dream I started crying in the waken world and my husband had to wake me up. It seems like a never ending struggle for good sleep and being able to wake up feeling refreshed. Even now I just woke up from a nap and I feel awful. I am so sleepy and drained. Some people say it’s diet issues. Trust id rather give up food than feel like this everyday.
@Inszz
@Inszz 13 жыл бұрын
great video, this actually made sense among all the BS stories and labeling people like it's a brain disfunction that can be fulfilled with some pills. Your voice is also very calm and pleasant.
@RE1MEMBER
@RE1MEMBER 15 жыл бұрын
Your are as powerful as you are weak - we all are. But your weaknesses/wounds/problems are forcing you to exercise your power. You will emerge as amazing human beings, I'm sure. Self-control is the right way, dudes. If the mind is too sick, work on the body first. The mind will follow. Yours truly, a guy who was like you once but is extremely brave today :)
@salmabanu8199
@salmabanu8199 10 ай бұрын
@RE1MEMBER please tell me how did you do...I facing the same issue
@SimplyHolisticASMR
@SimplyHolisticASMR 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this. You made my brain click, and now I know what I should talk about with my therapist next 😭
@EyesOpen117
@EyesOpen117 3 жыл бұрын
Very profound. Never heard this theory before. Intriguing.
@Thagy1973
@Thagy1973 Жыл бұрын
When I sleep I feel like I a dreaming the entire time I am asleep and I always wake up so damn tired. And my dreams are exremely real feeling. It almost feels like I live 2 lives. One when I am awake, and one in my dreams
@YokiBrewster
@YokiBrewster 7 ай бұрын
I dream in color. I can feel in my dreams. So much so, I can see the dust reflecting in the air from the sun rays piercing into my childhood window. There are always people around. Family and friends, and I am always in the mix and engaged. I can go anywhere I want to, even the places I can never go to again. I FEEL happy…. And then i wake up
@paulflint6254
@paulflint6254 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, im dream lots and am tired often.
@peterkooreman7504
@peterkooreman7504 3 ай бұрын
I have a hard time getting to sleep. I’m 82 now and my dreams when I do get to sleep have become more intense and dark. Only rarely are they pleasant anymore. I always awaken tired and wanting to sleep/rest. Can anyone relate???
@angelhighlight5154
@angelhighlight5154 4 жыл бұрын
Am I the only that have this that is not depressed? I don’t feel Depression but have this dreams that leaves me too tired everyday
@rkdob
@rkdob 11 жыл бұрын
I can confirm this to be true. I have been to a sleep clinic, and yes I sleep in rem. over a ful 9 hr. i fell in rem and only rem for 5 hrs waking up and thinking i have had rested. I do not have sleep apnea... but I use a breathing machine to rest my heart from working so hard. this helps
@debunker1905
@debunker1905 17 жыл бұрын
Man I haven't been happy for a long time, like 4 years, depression kills you.
@allonifrah3465
@allonifrah3465 5 жыл бұрын
Me too. 6 years and counting. My dreams give me everything that I desire and that is missing from my waking life. No wonder then that I withdraw more and more from waking life and the people in it and I seek refuge in my dreams more and more.
@Jst4fun817
@Jst4fun817 5 жыл бұрын
How are you doing now? It's been 12 years. My depression and sleep issues brought me here today.
@sc-iu8jq
@sc-iu8jq 4 жыл бұрын
I've been living with depression for 20 years. It's hard to keep going but i won't give up...
@stephaniespivak6225
@stephaniespivak6225 4 жыл бұрын
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@danieldiaz4584
@danieldiaz4584 4 жыл бұрын
@@sc-iu8jq Damn you are strong man. Just wanna say you are never alone. 20 years to endure that pain; it would be just to much for me... i would have ended my life honestly. Why do we have to feel, i really dont want to feel anymore pain.
@CarritaJ
@CarritaJ 6 жыл бұрын
This past week I have felt like I dreamed all night long and that I am totally exhausted during the day. Normally I wouldn’t remember dreaming at all...unless it was really hot at night...that causes me to dream a lot more and feel unrested. I lost my job a couple of weeks ago....again....
@zekebraxton7921
@zekebraxton7921 3 жыл бұрын
hi has anything helped?
@Youdontknowyet
@Youdontknowyet 13 жыл бұрын
i've been depressed before. i promised myself that when i left that depressed state of mind and became better that i would never revisit that place again. but its been around 4 yrs. a lot of change and a lot of negativety has led me to this place again. i lay in bed sleeping forever. i dont want to get out of bed. this explains a lot. i need to deal with my depression again.
@STiCKGGY
@STiCKGGY 4 жыл бұрын
Aways tell my boyfriend i feel mentally and emotionally exhausted after dreaming. I also feel like i need about 10-12h sleep to feel normal. He just thinks im lazy
@QWERTY-ri5yw
@QWERTY-ri5yw 3 жыл бұрын
Omg same same same I’m told I’m lazy all the time x
@eve7422
@eve7422 3 жыл бұрын
@@QWERTY-ri5yw same!
@pauls3117
@pauls3117 3 жыл бұрын
I had a girlfriend and used to think she was just lazy too. After going thru divorce, mom's death etc. I became depressed myself. All I know now is it's not just being lazy!! And if the BF or whatever isn't supportive it'll make it worse. May be time for a new BF or maybe none at all 💯
@smithci
@smithci 10 жыл бұрын
This is my most awful symptom of depression that I could no longer deal with. I look forward to sleep but then it's.... Waking alone at 2am exhausted with low low thoughts. Reluctantly resorted to medication. I hate being numb on meds and I'm not sleeping much better. I have read all your book before I went on meds and it does make sense but I did not have the energy nor time to put it all into practice . My nearest human givens therapast is quite far from me too
@Lertpipopmetha
@Lertpipopmetha 7 жыл бұрын
are u able to sleep soundly now?
@smithci
@smithci 7 жыл бұрын
Most times.. I'm on good meds now
@Lertpipopmetha
@Lertpipopmetha 7 жыл бұрын
Chris S Meds? Antidepressants? This is what's happening to me now man, its so bad
@smithci
@smithci 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah duloxetine in morning, mirtazapine at night
@Lertpipopmetha
@Lertpipopmetha 7 жыл бұрын
Chris S have u ever try anything besides taking meds? I use it occasionally bt Im afraid for long term its gonna build up tolerance
@deid4lit
@deid4lit 12 жыл бұрын
This makes sense... Lately I've been having long and vivid dreams that I remember almost in their entirety, and whereas I used to wake up happy, now I wake up so incredibly depressed its like lying in a dysphoric purgatory (even after a happy dream).
@brandonj.3328
@brandonj.3328 7 жыл бұрын
I worry all day about why i feel like shit, then i go to sleep and constantly dream and have nightmares, then wake up absolutely exhausted and then worry about why im so exhausted and feel like shit and had nightmares, then the cycle repeats itself getting more and more tired every cycle.
@zekebraxton7921
@zekebraxton7921 3 жыл бұрын
Hi has anything helped?
@brandonj.3328
@brandonj.3328 3 жыл бұрын
@@zekebraxton7921 yes. I found exercising routinely, going on walks everyday helped me to relax and regulate my energy
@zekebraxton7921
@zekebraxton7921 3 жыл бұрын
@@brandonj.3328 ​ thanks for replying. i been having excessive dreams for 9 months now and it would leave me feeling tired when i woke up and tired/sleepy throughout most of the day. i use to have alot of nightmares in the begining like every night. But im glad to say those have went away for the most part. but i just seem to vivid dream or have random dreams every night. I feel like the dreaming and sleep fragmentation causes my eyes to feel tired/sore and sleepy. And also i try to nap during the day but cant even fall asleep during a nap lol. Did u have similar symptoms to mine? Or what were urs when u were in my shoes.
@brandonj.3328
@brandonj.3328 3 жыл бұрын
@@zekebraxton7921 yep, I had similar symptoms your eyes are constantly moving during REM sleep leaving them stressed once you wake up. I was also tired and lacked any motivation during the day to exercise as an attempt to fix it. but as soon as I just disciplined myself and even just went on a walk up the street for 20 minutes day I was able to sleep easier due to the physical exertion and walking can be therapeutic which in turn will help the content of your dreams to be less dark. This is what worked for me. That and drinking tea daily and trying to stress less. Best of luck 👍
@vaibhavsingh4200
@vaibhavsingh4200 Жыл бұрын
How to control it, what's the solution? Lack of quality sleep has made my life tough, i am always tired
@HumanGivens
@HumanGivens 15 жыл бұрын
@casio124478 thanks for your comment. This video isn't saying that REM sleep isn't important, indeed you are exactly right - getting enough REM sleep is utterly vital to our sanity and survival. What this video is saying is that: - the high brain activity of REM (when dearousing emotion), when too much of it occurs, can contribute to feelings of exhaustion and lack of motivation that can lead to a cycle of depression. A certain amount of REM is needed, but too much can be as bad as too little.
@ttobyg
@ttobyg 13 жыл бұрын
thank you. your theories make sense. i have several vivid dreams (sometimes lucid) every night and im always tired and lacking motivation.
@369maar
@369maar Жыл бұрын
So what are solutions?🤔🤔🤔
@DorisClay
@DorisClay 8 жыл бұрын
I used to rarely dream but now that I'm depressed I constantly wakeup throughout my sleep worrying about my situation and from dreaming about how I will overcome it. It's really bad.
@Artemis458
@Artemis458 11 жыл бұрын
what this guy said makes a lot of sense to me
@InshasChoice
@InshasChoice 4 жыл бұрын
I'm scared of death, but I dread life. I thought it got better, but it's gotten worse through the years. I've been living through my dreams. I don't know if I'll ever be content or joyful. I envy others for enjoying life while I can't stop the negative emotions and the constant hurt.. exhausted of trying to live in the present, exhausted of thinking about the past and things I can't control. Through sleep, though momentary it somewhat dissipates ...then I wake up and I'm holding onto the edge again
@InshasChoice
@InshasChoice 4 жыл бұрын
@didi munster everything hurts, you have good days, I guess but those bad days are so tough. Like you could be having an alright day and something sets you off. Idek. At least we're not alone in our suffering, though I wouldn't wish this on anyone
@ThommyBoy421
@ThommyBoy421 13 жыл бұрын
This video answered a lot of questions for me. Thank you.
@37hurtado1
@37hurtado1 Жыл бұрын
I am taking medicine for depression but sometimes I forget to when this happens I had a lot of dreams 😢most of them are nightmares. I think the video give us a very good view of this issue. Thank you 👍🏼👍🏼
@richardmoores
@richardmoores 17 жыл бұрын
I think this man explains things really well in a non-patronising mannor, and without using science jargon. I've been anxious and depressed on and off for years and this is a great insight. I've just got 'how to beat anxiety' book from these and the 'human givens' and 'depression' are on their way. I'm about a third through the 'anxiety' book, and up to now it seems great.
@abelcotton3371
@abelcotton3371 4 жыл бұрын
This fellow talks about "motivation circuits" and also somehow connects people dreaming with poor quality sleep. Every time I've had a vivid dream I wake refreshed like I've slept for years. Things that effect sleep is our bodies ability to produce and reduce chemicals which ellicit us to sleep faster as well as stay asleep. Quality of sleep is effected by amount and also having a scheduled sleep. It is not known if sleep deprivation itself is the main culprit of depression or if its symptom of it. Sleep deprivation increases chances of mental health problems such as Alzheimer. Additionally diabetes and other health related issues.
@salmabanu8199
@salmabanu8199 10 ай бұрын
How to fix this please anyone help..
@miniprepper8284
@miniprepper8284 6 ай бұрын
I have found that certain probiotics and Berberine cause a lift in my neurotransmitter s and my mood lifts and my sleep improves after a few weeks. Search for the research on the link between gut bacteria and the production of natural antidepressants.
@88bananapeels
@88bananapeels 15 жыл бұрын
I think its a two way road, the depressing thoughts, behaviors, beliefs, etc. over time build up and your brain can no longer flush out these emotional arousals with normal REM sleep, so it goes into overdrive, and this is exhausting. It then becomes a vicious cycle as it has for me: I wake up miserable and thus spend alot of my day doing little but ruminating and feeling terrible, building up more for my brain to flush out in the coming nights, and so on.
@roryking1
@roryking1 2 жыл бұрын
i wish doctors was as knowledgable as this man
@GreenLeafWoodwork
@GreenLeafWoodwork 17 жыл бұрын
This is a big help thank you so much
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