Tool The Grudge Reaction!!

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VinAnd Sori

VinAnd Sori

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@ohthedude
@ohthedude 6 жыл бұрын
Dude, you are so a Tool fan. Come to the Tool side, we have cookies.
@williamletson6537
@williamletson6537 6 жыл бұрын
Omar Munoz but from what Danny Carey said, the cookies tasted like cardboard and I think his dog at them in the middle of the night but the offer is a nice gesture...
@flyingardilla143
@flyingardilla143 6 жыл бұрын
There were cookies, but the cake is a lie...
@ricardomartinezxx
@ricardomartinezxx 6 жыл бұрын
How did Portal make it's way in to this discussion, LMAO
@narcissistectomy5134
@narcissistectomy5134 5 жыл бұрын
i just laughed at my desk at work!
@dawid6177
@dawid6177 4 жыл бұрын
Omar Munoz The cookies give you a Chocolate Chip Trip
@megadev9099
@megadev9099 6 жыл бұрын
The 'reverse entropy' effect is very real with Tool. I've been experiencing it for about 25 years now. Not only has the band and albums improved along the way, but my enjoyment of each song only improves with each listen.
@Therap1ssed
@Therap1ssed 6 жыл бұрын
Those are always the best bands. Tool is sort of in a league of its own, but other bands that I initially felt blase about then fell in love with after were Mr. Bungle, The Melvins, and Ween.
@sarajade5111
@sarajade5111 6 жыл бұрын
They still never fail to amaze me. That's why they've been my favorite for over 20 years.
@krowjin86
@krowjin86 6 жыл бұрын
I see you Vin. Singing word for word..... your a Tool fan brother.
@avidspider
@avidspider 6 жыл бұрын
So much content watching Sori's facial reaction as the riffs and fills come in, her ears and eyes taking it all in. Meanwhile Vin is jammin out like the album just dropped. You guys give good vibes man, keep it up!
@VinAndSori
@VinAndSori 6 жыл бұрын
Well... just dropped for us... lol a bit behind
@kyleshick5467
@kyleshick5467 6 жыл бұрын
Maynard sits for hours listening to 30second loops perfecting each line, then moves to the next. It’s genius and serious discipline.
@TheDeist100
@TheDeist100 6 жыл бұрын
Glad you're doing this. PLEASE don't fear the "46+2" and "Aenima"!
@Gabriel_Moline
@Gabriel_Moline 6 жыл бұрын
TheDeist100 I agree that they might fear that.
@saturnus2112
@saturnus2112 6 жыл бұрын
46+2?
@TheDeist100
@TheDeist100 6 жыл бұрын
Forty-Six & 2...lol
@savemepunk3191
@savemepunk3191 5 жыл бұрын
The Grudge is one of the best songs they perform live... I mean their whole set is amazing... but I am mesmerized when they play anything from this album live!!
@PiningAway462
@PiningAway462 6 жыл бұрын
Great song, Great Reaction, Love seeing you two react to my Fav band of all time. Now when they Tour next you must see them live. It is a life changing experience!!!
@MrTech226
@MrTech226 6 жыл бұрын
Danny Carey is a madman on the drums!
@Ryanknerr
@Ryanknerr 2 жыл бұрын
I just got to say your reactions are some of the best on KZbin. You two analyze the lyrics, music and meaning so intelligently and it's just great to see.
@BricktowneMedia
@BricktowneMedia 6 жыл бұрын
As close to a perfect analysis as your ever likely to get. Excellent stuff guys. Loved the conversation and insights. So very much looking forward to the rest of the reviews. The Patient is up next!!
@justjaredreacts
@justjaredreacts 5 жыл бұрын
Vin......"I'm not a tool fan".....15 seconds later he is singing the lyrics perfectly 🤣😂
@jeremygagne1753
@jeremygagne1753 4 жыл бұрын
Obviously he was joking
@TheSuperSaiyan97
@TheSuperSaiyan97 6 жыл бұрын
Come on Vin, I thought you said you were into mythology! I can't believe you didn't pick up on this! Alright let me take you to school haha TLDR: Saturn = Chronus, father of Zeus Saturn is Chronus' name in the Roman pantheon From the moment the titan Chronus kills his father Uranus, he knows that his own children are destined to kill him as well. The grudge is the malice that Chronus holds for his fate as well as his children. In order to attempt to overcome his fate, Chronus ate all his children as soon as they were born, except Zeus, who was swapped for a STONE that Chronus then swallowed instead. Wear the grudge like a crown of negativity. Calculate what we will or will not tolerate. Desperate to control all and everything. Unable to forgive your scarlet letterman. Chronus, King of the Titans,deciding to take his fate into his own hands. The scarlet letterman are his own children, every time he sees them he is reminded of his fate. Clutch it like a cornerstone. Otherwise it all comes down. Justify denials and grip 'em to the lonesome end. Clutch it like a cornerstone. Otherwise it all comes down. Terrified of being wrong. Ultimatum prison cell. Chronus trying to hold onto his remaining time, denying his fate, hanging on to his place until his lonesome end in Tartarus (hell). Saturn ascends, choose one or ten. Hang on or be humbled again. Humbled again. One or ten = himself or his children, all or nothing Hang on to his crown or be humbled by watching his children succeed him. Clutch it like a cornerstone. Otherwise it all comes down. Justify denials and grip 'em to the lonesome end. Saturn ascends, comes round again. Saturn ascends, the one, the ten. Ignorant to the damage done. Chronus ascends by killing his father. He "comes round again" in the form of his son Zeus, who kills Chronus like Chronus did his father. Chronus is ignorant to the damage done when he chooses to devour his children because this act ends up sealing his fate by forcing Zeus to kill him to free his siblings from his stomach (Chronus death = damage done) Saturn comes back around to show you everything Let's you choose what you will, will not see and then Drags you down like a stone or lifts you up again Spits you out like a child, light and innocent. Long story, but Zeus ends up making Chronus vomit up his siblings i.e. Poseidon, Hades, etc, who are still alive in Chronus' stomach. Saturn comes back around. Lifts you up like a child Or drags you down like a stone to Consume you till you choose to let this go. Choose to let this go. Give away the stone. Let the oceans take and Transmutate this cold and fated anchor. Give away the stone. Let the waters kiss and Transmutate these leaden grudges into gold. Let go. Give away the stone = give up attempting to control fate and embrace it instead Oceans = chaos/nature/fate Chronus is commonly symbolized by lead, Zeus is commonly symbolized with gold. (I also believe that the alchemists were strongly influenced by mythology, but spoke in symbolic language to disguise their beliefs out of fear of prosecution for heresy by the Church) This is just my interpretation, but I think it's pretty compelling. The song (as well as the myth itself of course) is highly allegorical and speaks of the cycles both between generations as well as within ourselves and how to possibly overcome them, if that's even possible.
@VinAndSori
@VinAndSori 6 жыл бұрын
Whoa! Quote of the week! You sir... win a prize... seriously ! Love the knowledge !
@gukbag
@gukbag 6 жыл бұрын
This is a very interesting interpretation. Interpreting music is honestly one of the most amazing things because a song can mean something different to everyone who listens to it. Saturn (Roman god) is identified with Cronus (Greek god) but does not 100% equal Cronus. He still eats his kids, but where the Greeks feared him or saw him as a stepping stone in a story, the Romans revered him. In Roman mythology, Saturn is actually associated with both peace and plenty. The Romans adapted the Greek pantheon to suit their needs. Also, Chronus is the god of time, who later became associated with both Saturn and Cronus. I personally agree with Vin's interpretation. However, I also believe that Maynard is referencing Saturn in astrology because Saturn equals misery.
@fjolkyngi218
@fjolkyngi218 6 жыл бұрын
TheSuperSaiyan97 I like your mythological view but remember these guys were writing from a thelemic viewpoint. I'll explain
@mineonlyhooves
@mineonlyhooves 6 жыл бұрын
Bingo, this is the correct interpretation of this song and reference to Saturn
@Rainmaker_ES
@Rainmaker_ES 6 жыл бұрын
Nailed it. The last part is insane and the rhythms seem taken out of a soundtrack of witches conjuring on a bonfire while dancing, so tribal. One of my 2 favourite Tool songs.
@Forty_six_and_two
@Forty_six_and_two 6 жыл бұрын
Take everything Maynard says with a grain of salt, he's a trickster.
@alexandriawallacew9327
@alexandriawallacew9327 6 жыл бұрын
Sebastian J ha
@Kratosis1980
@Kratosis1980 5 жыл бұрын
He is....and he isn't 🤔🧐
@Iampeeb
@Iampeeb 4 жыл бұрын
He's a troll
@johnwilson1794
@johnwilson1794 4 жыл бұрын
Biggest troll of all was getting me to wear a shirt with the word Tool on it for the last 30 years. 😜
@GingerNinjaPlus
@GingerNinjaPlus 4 жыл бұрын
@@Kratosis1980 Schrodinger's Maynard
@krustbag1039
@krustbag1039 6 жыл бұрын
the excitement I see in you two when you guys are learning more and more about tool, reminds me of when I first became obsessed with Pink Floyd. I've listened to the wall over 1000 times now. I wrote 1000+ word essays in high school dissecting the lyrics of the album, I even learned to play the entire album (minus some harder solos), and played a 15m medley as my final exam in guitar class. I think this is why I love your channel so much, because I did the same level of lyrical analysis of the wall.
@Ejmillanv
@Ejmillanv 6 жыл бұрын
Vin's too proud to admit he's a tool fan... but he is, totally 100% can't deny lol
@jonward9997
@jonward9997 6 жыл бұрын
Bro seriously your ability to interpret lyrics is amazing, but it's the way you are able to convey the message that is mind-blowing can't wait for the rest of the album luv you too Sori 8D
@b2ickwall978
@b2ickwall978 6 жыл бұрын
This is probably the best reaction video I've ever seen. The depth of the lyrics and then the impact of those ideas in your lives and the lives of others.
@VinAndSori
@VinAndSori 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you !!!
@drewlegere5021
@drewlegere5021 6 жыл бұрын
Great job guy's. I'm going to be patient waiting for ticks and leaches. Even if it takes awhile to get to, I wont hold a grudge. You see what I did there?
@VinAndSori
@VinAndSori 6 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha !
@TJS3
@TJS3 6 жыл бұрын
Patient Tool fan...see what I did there!?
@sushansaakya48
@sushansaakya48 6 жыл бұрын
Plz stay sober until then....
@notoriusjmy
@notoriusjmy 3 жыл бұрын
Based
@notoriusjmy
@notoriusjmy 3 жыл бұрын
U gotta be childlike to be a #MatrixSpoonDenier
@coreymoranda4845
@coreymoranda4845 6 жыл бұрын
You guys are amazing, vin is teaching me shit about Tool and I’ve been listening and obsessed with them and all their secrets in their music for my whole life and Vin comes in and drops some knowledge on my ass and I LOVE it!!! Thank you both can’t wait for the rest
@VinAndSori
@VinAndSori 6 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you my dude !
@THE.kevman237
@THE.kevman237 6 жыл бұрын
You two probably put more lyrical analysis into this one song than I have for all of Tool's works, and it's phenomenal!!! Awesome stuff!
@Themartinezjoeshow
@Themartinezjoeshow 6 жыл бұрын
Vin is becoming a wrench. They do not have a bad album. I have never been a huge tool fan but I can appreciate art and a unbelievable discography.
@metregogi156
@metregogi156 6 жыл бұрын
still sounds like a huge tool fan
@hahsteve
@hahsteve 5 жыл бұрын
@@metregogi156 I think you're saying the same thing Martinezjoe74 is saying. A wrench is a type of tool.
@mineonlyhooves
@mineonlyhooves 6 жыл бұрын
The “Holy Gift” album is nonsense spouted by Tool’s most obnoxious hardcore fans. Even Adam Jones and Danny Carey have stated in interviews the Holy Gift is crap, Lateralus was released in order the way the band wanted you to hear it.
@DrDictionary8
@DrDictionary8 5 жыл бұрын
I always took "hang on or be humbled again" as the justification of a person holding a grudge, or the fear/cost that they are unwilling to make. To let go of a grudge often means to admit your own faults, and thus be humbled. A stubborn person holding a hates the idea of being humbled. "I MUST hang on to this grudge! I've spent so much time and energy on it! If I let go now, it will be humiliating, And yet, this is exactly what we need to do in these situations. Let go. Admit the fault, have humility, and move on.
@dryferr5557
@dryferr5557 6 жыл бұрын
Vin I'm so impressed that you seriously took the time and did the research on this song/ album. It took me 10 years of finding articles from this very introverted band and going to song meanings websites and putting things together forming an opinion ect . You did this in weeks. Props my brother.
@Alyssa-ht5iv
@Alyssa-ht5iv 4 жыл бұрын
THAT SCREAM ALWAYS GIVES ME CHILLS. ITS SO LONGGG
@patrickfuller2423
@patrickfuller2423 6 жыл бұрын
You know...the honest , open, and willingness to see things from all aspects is refreshing.. love you guys
@Tool_jira_shugg
@Tool_jira_shugg 6 жыл бұрын
LOVE IT! Can't wait for the rest of the album to be discussed! I'm happily living vicariously through you guys, and am also seeing these songs through a different light WITH your reactions and interpretations. Y'all's channel is growing so fast and I'm glad to see that 🙌
@williamletson6537
@williamletson6537 6 жыл бұрын
Love what you 2 do!!! The rabbit hole just gets deeper when it comes to understanding the complexities behind Tools music and lyrics... glad you are choosing to take the journey and to share it with us all!!! Much love!!
@km666
@km666 6 жыл бұрын
They did it on purpose ... Tool...or at least Maynard... is pretty big on people figuring things like that out on their own...thats why there are no lyric sheets...they want you to listen
@donovonsmith930
@donovonsmith930 3 жыл бұрын
Vin, you are more intellectual than you let on or believe you are. Respect.
@corpazilum5352
@corpazilum5352 6 жыл бұрын
I totally didn't think about it until watching this - but the whole thing of "leaden grudges" fits in with the Saturn imagery as well. You know the little astrological symbols for the different planets? The symbol for Saturn was used in alchemy to represent lead. And of course one of the goals of alchemy was to transmute lead into gold.
@BricktowneMedia
@BricktowneMedia 6 жыл бұрын
::signal boost:: This is a great observation!
@riezexeero7392
@riezexeero7392 6 жыл бұрын
corp Azilum I agree. They used alchemy as a metaphor to convey the song. Here you can see the meaning if saturn. www.alchemylab.com/calcination.htm
@bdlblob
@bdlblob 6 жыл бұрын
reflection is a masterpiece
@BricktowneMedia
@BricktowneMedia 6 жыл бұрын
Favorite Tool song ever written. Until we hear the new album perhaps...:0D
@KILLtrOTTcity
@KILLtrOTTcity 6 жыл бұрын
Imo you need to listen to Disposition along with Reflection,those songs are intertwined in many parts but alot of people don't notice at first.Tool does get better as you listen to their songs,just like this gentleman said and this is just one example.
@syntheticsleep
@syntheticsleep 6 жыл бұрын
The "Holy Gift" is bs. People look too far into the things that aren't important and ignore the things that are. Also, Thelema is Alestair Crowley's school of thought, and Danny Cary is related to him, I think. Another fun fact is that TOOL is Adam Jones' band and Lateralus (the song and riff) came from Justin Chancellor, their bassist.
@TheChucknoxus
@TheChucknoxus 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly, the special order doesn't even sound any better.
@Stoltzfus
@Stoltzfus 6 жыл бұрын
Sounds worse imo. The original is perfect.
@TheBym4eva
@TheBym4eva 6 жыл бұрын
"Overthinking, overanalyzing separates the body from the mind." Holy gift slips up d/r/t. That's all the proof necessary to show that it wasn't intentional.
@ConsideratelyKillingMe
@ConsideratelyKillingMe 6 жыл бұрын
What is d/r/t?
@FairsleyDifference
@FairsleyDifference 6 жыл бұрын
Apophis13 • Disposition/Reflection/Triad
@hollis68
@hollis68 4 жыл бұрын
Definately changed my life and perspective as a person with bipolar disorder. Big fan of Tools from the early 90’s and when this album released I was 32 years old. Hard to imagine or convey the impactfullness and wisdom garnered from this album (more so than any other). I still listen to it religiously.
@soccerwizard975
@soccerwizard975 6 жыл бұрын
A constant theme running through this album is how letting go leads you to some sort of enlightenment and freedom. Here specifically, let the grudge go and be in control of your own personal journey. You guys got that, but the reason the album as a whole is bigger than the sum of its parts is because of this central theme.
@heididenson6643
@heididenson6643 6 жыл бұрын
Love watching you two react to my favorite band! The energy is perfection! Welcome to the tool experience!
@devilman4872
@devilman4872 6 жыл бұрын
There's a tool album called undertow that I would highly recommend along with an awesome EP called opiate.
@CthulhuTheGAWD
@CthulhuTheGAWD 5 жыл бұрын
I love watching reactions to The Grudge because Maynard’s scream at the end always blows the reactors mind wide the fuck open!
@frankov_83
@frankov_83 6 жыл бұрын
Lateralus is my favorite record ever. I consider it the dark side of the moon of the 21st century.
@notoriusjmy
@notoriusjmy 3 жыл бұрын
One Saturn ring to control them all. #ThereIsNoSpoon #ThereIsNoMoon #TheMoonIsJustASocialConstruct
@kumarlalit1999
@kumarlalit1999 6 жыл бұрын
Vin's body learning some new time signatures ...good to see
@YTDumpsterBaby
@YTDumpsterBaby 4 жыл бұрын
33:30 Vin dropping some real wisdom about letting grudges go. We don't grow as people or achieve our goals holding grudges. Some people are ignorant but being able to dissociate from somebody's insults or accusations with the attitude that "I hear you but i don't recognise myself by the accusation or word you're using.!" It is very enlightened. The person using that word is the one with low character. They have to use it to try to empower themselves. Reminds me of Daryl Davis. A Musician who converted many of the top KKK members by simply getting to know them and not being offended by their ignorance. The KKK members who quit often give him their robes and hoods as a symbolic thanks. Because their lives are no longer consumed by prejudice. Their focus is no longer weak minded hate that never gave them any happiness or sense of accomplishment anyway.
@krowjin86
@krowjin86 6 жыл бұрын
I feel like you both are unintentionally a truer form of Tool fan than most self-identified fans. Your understanding of their message comes from a real place. Love it
@Themartinezjoeshow
@Themartinezjoeshow 6 жыл бұрын
Tool is masterful and way ahead for there time and to me and band that will stand the test of time . Great reaction and cant wait for the rest of the album...and btw nonpoint the truth please bruah help me out
@LexiPixeL_
@LexiPixeL_ 6 жыл бұрын
You guys should have the lyrics up for these. I have two monitors so I can follow along no problem, but it'd be nice to have all of it in the video itself. :) I'm excited for this series. Lowkey hope you guys tackle Aenima at some point. That's a great album too, lots of Jungian philosophy on there. Edit: Also it might be interesting to check out all the info on genius.com for each song. The site has interpretations and information, and generally official info from any given artist is given precedence with anything too outlandish or not confirmed is downvoted to oblivion. Each snippet of lyrics can also be clicked on for info on those specific segments. Edit 2: If this is _maybe_ your favorite on the album, VIn, you'd probably like Aenima. I'd say musically this is the closest sounding to something from that record.
@Defensive_Wounds
@Defensive_Wounds 6 жыл бұрын
That Maynard scream and the drumming in the final part plus the groove in the middle are the best parts of any Tool song!!
@jasmaxi1
@jasmaxi1 4 жыл бұрын
Lateralus (song) originally had the working title of 9-8-7 due to the time signatures of the chorus of the song changing from 9/8 to 8/8 to 7/8. 987 is also the 16th number of the Fibonacci sequence.
@Lurch685
@Lurch685 2 жыл бұрын
I love how they let Maynard “let go” with that scream, then let Danny “let go” with that outro.
@mediashroudsreality9845
@mediashroudsreality9845 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys! I asked for this song twice and you seemed to have listened. 🤘
@crimsonking9690
@crimsonking9690 6 жыл бұрын
Vin you're on board now bro. One of us, one of us, one of us! Good deep dive guys. I really appreciate this channel and the both of you. TOOL!
@timhunter5280
@timhunter5280 6 жыл бұрын
About the interludes, IMO you should just put them together with the songs that follow. When you hear the album often enough, they kinda start belonging together anyway, i.e. eon blue apocalypse + the patient, mantra + schism, parabol + parabola and disposition + reflection + triad are all package deals to me.
@isaacgnzlz5761
@isaacgnzlz5761 6 жыл бұрын
I've never saw that perspective of that ''turn the other cheek'' lesson and never thought I will learn it from a Tool review video, amazing and once again thank you for this conversation/review!
@mode3517
@mode3517 6 жыл бұрын
Also the choice of specifying lead to gold is a reference to the holy grail of Alchemy, the philosophers stone, which would turn lead into gold. This heavy stone of a grudge becomes a philosophers stone of sorts to yourself the moment you can let it go. Possessing this grudge is poisonous like lead but being able to let it go is golden. Golden for your personal growth and maturity.
@wordswordseverywhere9113
@wordswordseverywhere9113 6 жыл бұрын
My favourite Tool song. Good stuff!
@ViolentKisses87
@ViolentKisses87 5 жыл бұрын
Ooooh her name is Sori. I just thought "I'm Sorry" was a traditional Canadian greeting.
@stm_nerd
@stm_nerd 6 жыл бұрын
love the way you guys interpret, analyse and in critical thought. most say by yours observation i understood the song more deeply. and i loved the channel. thank you guys....♥︎
@MrZZsharka
@MrZZsharka 6 жыл бұрын
To watch the transition from discovering Tool to becoming full blown Tool fans who appreciate their genius among other things, has been amazing and brings back fond memories! : )
@seanegglesden5702
@seanegglesden5702 6 жыл бұрын
😍finally!! Awesome breakdown guys absolutely bloody brilliant🤘 Amon Amarth - Under the Northern Star 😉
@travisk7636
@travisk7636 6 жыл бұрын
Worth the wait, well done Vin. Cant wait for the rest, especially Lateralus and Ticks and Leaches.
@rafael3138
@rafael3138 6 жыл бұрын
fantastic, thanks for sharing this, I feel happy and comfortable with these words, and with a song, tool raises the muisc in a brilliant way
@thomdushane
@thomdushane 6 жыл бұрын
The break makes the hair stand up on my arms... EVERY. DAMN. TIME.
@InfinityDz
@InfinityDz 3 жыл бұрын
10:17 I used to write music and I can see how Maynard thinks it's a gimmick. Finding smart little secrets to hide in your songs is one of the easiest things to do and actually, that was one of the first things I tried to do when I had just started writing music and was trying to think of myself as smart. The more you learn though, the more you realize it's really not what being a mature artist is all about, just trying to find meaningless secrets and trying to hide them in songs.
@nfbuckeye
@nfbuckeye 6 жыл бұрын
Vin’s been listening to this a few times, lol. Great reaction as always, guys. Love how you analyze and really dive into the lyrics. Will make for some beautiful irony when you get to ‘Lateralus’!
@LVXMagick
@LVXMagick 6 жыл бұрын
93! It excited me beyond words to hear you talk about Thelema, Quabalah, Numerology, and Astrology! Much love to you both and to all my fellow Thelemites🖤 93/93
@danruiz1708
@danruiz1708 6 жыл бұрын
Vin strikes me as more of a grudge holder than Sori... just an observation. Great review!
@VinAndSori
@VinAndSori 6 жыл бұрын
You’re probably right! 🤘🏾-Vin
@danruiz1708
@danruiz1708 6 жыл бұрын
VinAnd Sori Wear it like a crown!!! 😉Love you guys. 🤘
@kratos9293
@kratos9293 6 жыл бұрын
hands down the best tool content on youtube
@justinmccln
@justinmccln 4 жыл бұрын
Yall did a great job of doing research and understanding the song Lateralus. The last step of understanding to take is to see the message within the over-arching story of the lyrics of Lateralus. The spiral is what he says to represent the fibonacci sequence and the fibonacci sequence is a numerical representation of nature. So when he says to "swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human," he is saying to push ourselves to the edge of our nature so we "may just go where no one's been." You can see the underlying point expressed throughout all of the lyrics in the song, it is beautiful.
@wadesmalling83
@wadesmalling83 4 жыл бұрын
From what I've noticed, Tool wants us to figure certain things out ourselves.
@shanesturgill75
@shanesturgill75 6 жыл бұрын
Vin, you are SO a Tool fan! Haha. Welcome to the family, brother!
@carlitosd.9699
@carlitosd.9699 6 жыл бұрын
Vin and Sori, another great reaction! 🤟😎... Vin, if you’re working on an album you certainly understand the creative process, and the delicate balance between “message and method”, and I feel that’s what Maynard was referring to with the song “lateralus” as unintentionally ‘gimmicky’ or’ sophomoric ’ in hindsight ... so much has been made about the ‘method’ as the focal point, that I can see how Maynard could feel it’s overshadowed the song as a complete experience.
@1uckywanderboy519
@1uckywanderboy519 6 жыл бұрын
Steven Wilson - Ancestral. Weird creepy prog rock and still more terrifying than most metal songs.
@samginoble2397
@samginoble2397 6 жыл бұрын
Vin’s really feeling it. all the hand gestures 😭😭 17:38 saturn comes back around- * hits someone with a steel chair *
@mykelg.larson5934
@mykelg.larson5934 5 жыл бұрын
It's funny to watch Sori be so calm while Vin is rockin' out. Haha.
@jamieperdue8663
@jamieperdue8663 6 жыл бұрын
It's the Phi ratio that accrues in nature (sacred geometry) There are shapes that accure as well (Metetrons cube being one) . I believe Meteron is (gods scribe). I find with Tool that there is so much to take in musically that there are songs I gravitate to first and songs I don't. Then a year later the songs I first dismissed become my favorite songs on the albums. I saw that Joe rogan pod cast with Maynard, did he use the word gimmick? I think he said it happened by accident but I can't remember, it was a while ago. You mentioned the bible (I don't remember the word you used) retells the same stories through out the book. I saw a Jordan Peterson lecture where he mentions that and had a "chart" with lines connecting where the stories are retold. He compared it to a primitive version of hyperlinks.
@bigzcuz
@bigzcuz 6 жыл бұрын
Reign of darkness- Thy art is murder (music video) Land of snow and sorrow- Wintersun Carbon phrases- Alkaloid Crushed- Parkway Drive I'm gonna spam this on every video
@OriginalWhiteTornado
@OriginalWhiteTornado 6 жыл бұрын
I always thought the phrase "Hang on or be humbled again" was in reference to the grudge. Letting go of a grudge can be a humbling experience where, at the end, you have to acknowledge that you've made a mistake to still be angry. I figured that line was the logic behind being angry- that you can't calm down or you'll realize you shouldn't have been mad in the first place. In any case, another great song, and another great review!
@narcissistectomy5134
@narcissistectomy5134 5 жыл бұрын
19:57 is me, every time I make my wife listen to a song I like 😂
@rw-gh2gg
@rw-gh2gg 3 жыл бұрын
20:00 Vin achieves perfection LMAO \m/
@revko1nyc
@revko1nyc 6 жыл бұрын
One of the sexiest thing a woman can tell a man, "you're so smart"
@travisswanson3449
@travisswanson3449 4 жыл бұрын
The sexiest thing a woman can say is, “I LOVE TOOL! I love you too, haha, but I love tool.” 🤣
@vinniejudilla3921
@vinniejudilla3921 6 жыл бұрын
You guys owe it to yourselves to see them live👍👍👍
@chrispytelomeres9863
@chrispytelomeres9863 6 жыл бұрын
Fucking awesome, thanx guys that was fun. That stuff about the possible religious references in the song, was interesting. Maynard grew up in a southern Baptist home. At least while he lived with his mother. As you know.
@crossofcrimson
@crossofcrimson 6 жыл бұрын
This is really fantastic, guys. Like so many others are saying, I don't think you're going to find a better overall analysis anywhere. I think about the only STONE left unturned (haha...see what I did there) was the "transmutation" metaphor. All the points about turning something bad into "gold" are spot-on. But turning something "leaden" into gold was no accident. It's a reference to alchemy, an (at least now seen as) occult practice of trying to transmute one substance into another. The effort of trying to turn lead into gold, in particular, was very common; I guess because they have similar mass(?) Anyways, just another occult reference to add to the pot. I hope that at some point maybe you decide to do a similar run-through for Ænima. I think the transition between that record and Lateralus is one of the biggest ones for the band - and so it's no surprise those two albums are often the fan favorites. The previous albums were often darker, as well as more aggressive and cynical. So the ascent from Ænima to Lateralus was a decidedly upward shift in aesthetic and tone. And, as you point to the reference of Saturn returning in this song, it's no coincidence that the band members were in their early thirties when they made this shift; when they wrote Lateralus. I'd also like add, for whatever it's worth, that Lateralus had a huge impact on me in my early life as well. And I think it kind of raised the bar not only for a lot of hard rock and metal bands, but their fans as well. Something I think that too many people overlook is the weird timing of this album. By that I mean, its release. This album, to the best of my memory, came out in the summer of 2001. Their tour for the release started in earnest that fall....just weeks before 9/11. In fact, I went to the show they did in Columbus just a couple of days after 9/11. I remember before they played "Schism", Maynard talked to the crowd a little bit. The crowd started to erupt in chants of "USA! USA! USA!", and I remember him very quickly chastising them, and explaining that, in this moment, we could all either choose fear...or love and communication. I won't go into the boring historical details of what the USA collectively chose. But I remembered thinking what an odd coincidence that this song they started playing, "Schism", is about a rift between two people ("brothers"/"lovers"), and opening up communication to facilitate healing. In fact, a good deal of the album is about settling petty differences, healing, and appreciating life. What are the chances that that particular song is what they released as their first radio single months before 9/11? Songs like that, and songs like "The Grudge" began to take on a much larger (double) meaning to me right after that day. And I'm sure it did for many others as well.
@BricktowneMedia
@BricktowneMedia 6 жыл бұрын
AN HOUR?! Sweet baby jeebus......this is going to be siiiick.
@ThisIsDavesGarage
@ThisIsDavesGarage 6 жыл бұрын
Weird that I came across this randomly on youtube. I am a huge Tool fan and I was just looking at their bass guitar tabs then I ended up here. Awesome video and interpretation of the song. \m/
@jenniferduvall147
@jenniferduvall147 6 жыл бұрын
I f****** love Tool...my favorite band, of all time!!!
@dangerkeith3000
@dangerkeith3000 6 жыл бұрын
This is the best analysis of this song I've seen. This song'a meaning has bugged me for years and I think you guys are right or at least definitely in the right direction. So good@!
@VinAndSori
@VinAndSori 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you !
@brettg274
@brettg274 5 жыл бұрын
2018 Vin & Sori : I didn't say I'm a Tool fan because I like a couple songs. 2019 Vin & Sori : WE ARE BIG TIME TOOL FANS!
@franciscoserrano9781
@franciscoserrano9781 5 жыл бұрын
It happens that fast!
@SIRHOOVER
@SIRHOOVER 6 жыл бұрын
Don't fight it Vin, it is inevitable...SPIRAL OUT!! I love that Sori drinks from the Mason jar.
@ayeewtasko2601
@ayeewtasko2601 6 жыл бұрын
I AM SO EXCITED FOR THIS!!!
@BricktowneMedia
@BricktowneMedia 6 жыл бұрын
oh wow!! Earlier than I expected!!! SWEETNESS! Let the fun times begin!
@panagiotiszygouras6441
@panagiotiszygouras6441 4 жыл бұрын
you say sweetness and i think PARADISE LOST and thats it
@jonward9997
@jonward9997 6 жыл бұрын
Soooo glad the neighbor didn't it ruin for y'all this time lol you guys rock #Villager
@realdahmni6360
@realdahmni6360 6 жыл бұрын
om gosh ... you guys rock the whole way!!!!!! god bless hyou guys... this is so awesome... this is what everyone has been waiting for thank you so much... anyways spot on as always ... gl hf ... good luck and have fun... so much loving your channel... carson h. from facebook
@swamprabbit66
@swamprabbit66 6 жыл бұрын
I got to enjoy the band (minus Maynard) perform this song at one of their clinics. I got to watch Justin Chancellor play not more than 6 feet from me. It was breathtaking. And Vin is totally a Tool Fan!!
@halldragracr
@halldragracr 6 жыл бұрын
It has been like watching the evolution of an experience. Vin is spiraling out into fandom and sori is arriving at relationships with lyrics. Intimacy with this art continues......
@sarajade5111
@sarajade5111 6 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad Vin finally gets it.
@williampeterman5048
@williampeterman5048 6 жыл бұрын
Great video as always, love your work.
@hollyroxy25
@hollyroxy25 5 жыл бұрын
He didn't say it was a gimmick, he said he now thinks it was kind of sophomoric to force that on a song when the Fibonacci sequence is naturally found in everything anyway.
@bryansimms6245
@bryansimms6245 6 жыл бұрын
Maynard is also known to be troll of sorts..
@radhwangothic
@radhwangothic 6 жыл бұрын
"The Holy Gift" reminds me of Dark Side Of The Moon sync perfectly with Wizard of Oz movie. You have to check that theory it's pretty wild.
@gimphandjeff
@gimphandjeff 6 жыл бұрын
Rod Jubair It’s actually a bastardization of the album as it’s revisionist.
@DogmeatDied989
@DogmeatDied989 6 жыл бұрын
In minute 45 you were talking about the discovery of your parents' wisdom. You were expressing how it was difficult to convey your newly found appreciation for the advice of your parents when you were young, that you had to have your own children to realize they knew what they were talking about.I had that epiphany myself as a result of my own children. I just apologized to my parents for all the flak I gave them and told them that I now know, that they always knew the right move, and told them that it took me 20 years to learn the lesson. I felt much better after that confession!
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