How To BLACK: An Analysis of Black Cartoon Characters (feat. ReviewYaLife)

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@ReviewYaLife
@ReviewYaLife 6 жыл бұрын
pssh hehe, little does Toon know that i'm actually of Puerto Rican descent.........👀 IM GONNA SAY THE N-WORD!
@ToonrificTariq
@ToonrificTariq 6 жыл бұрын
I’ve been bamboozled, y’all.
@Odinsday
@Odinsday 6 жыл бұрын
I can’t keep repairing the White House guys smh
@Lando-kx6so
@Lando-kx6so 6 жыл бұрын
You a black puertorican
@SonicXtreme99akaCreeperMario
@SonicXtreme99akaCreeperMario 6 жыл бұрын
Thetas racist you can’t say the N word
@Kollapsingstar
@Kollapsingstar 6 жыл бұрын
I'm both so i approve this message
@kyoyameganebereznoff
@kyoyameganebereznoff 6 жыл бұрын
“Not every character with brown skin has to be a political statement.” Very well put.
@SuperCosmicMutantSquid
@SuperCosmicMutantSquid 6 жыл бұрын
Too bad we have creators doing that right now in some cases. It both makes me rage and laugh, mostly because I DO get a bit of a chuckle out of seeing these guys act uppity as if they're the first person to make a Black character....EVER. And when they start turning on each other for what they did wrong over it.
@sammysaito529
@sammysaito529 5 жыл бұрын
kyoyameganebereznoff J.K Rowling: *visually sweating*
@mousetrap773
@mousetrap773 5 жыл бұрын
Super Cosmic Mutant Honey Candle Squid - this is my biggest fear when writing a character I don’t personally represent. I get so worried that people will think that I’m trying to make a statement or force diversity. But that isn’t true at all. I just want to write a story that all kids can see themselves in.
@montychristo3745
@montychristo3745 5 жыл бұрын
Seriously. I wore an Afro all through college, and people somehow assumed that I hated White people and was all "Black Power" and whatnot. Every bald White dude is not a supremacist, and every Black person with a Fro, is not apart of the Black Panthers or something😁😁😁
@jmanakajosh9354
@jmanakajosh9354 5 жыл бұрын
@@montychristo3745 All through college? So you didnt wear it in the workplace?
@ghosttea1810
@ghosttea1810 4 жыл бұрын
The moral of this: being black is not a personality trait. Litterally just their skin tone. Edit: For all you thinking I am being racist? I think it is more culture that impacts your personality, which is alot different to your actual appearance.
@yurhomi4478
@yurhomi4478 4 жыл бұрын
Ghost Tea It isn’t a skin tone or race. ‘Black’ is a corporate designation, so called black people are copper coloured if anything.
@Scoring57
@Scoring57 4 жыл бұрын
Ghost Tea Yeah that's what you take out of it if you're whyte and biased probably. What I take out of it. 'There needs to be more black characters (obviously their skintone matters for this), and you're probably racist if you think whyte should be the "default". Also, acknowledging race doesn't = 'skin tone is personality'
@lelahtekhna2601
@lelahtekhna2601 4 жыл бұрын
and the ability to cook, dance, have cool hair etc
@divinemusa8731
@divinemusa8731 4 жыл бұрын
I just love it when people say I act white
@ghosttea1810
@ghosttea1810 4 жыл бұрын
@@Scoring57 I meant it as when there are black characters in shows, some aren't written very well and it just seems like there only character trait is their skin tone. I'm sorry if I offended you but that is what I meant. I do agree that there should be better and more representation out there for the black community
@kennethhizkia3864
@kennethhizkia3864 4 жыл бұрын
Here’s how to write a black character: Step 1: Write a character Step 2: You’re done
@mollof7893
@mollof7893 4 жыл бұрын
NO WAY!!!!!!!! :OOO
@Muhil_mumu
@Muhil_mumu 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly, the only not normal thing should be changing the characteristics of the character so it doesnt just look like a white person colored black and voila
@poweroffriendship2.0
@poweroffriendship2.0 4 жыл бұрын
*Step 2 1/2:* Give them some depth, development, and personality. *Step 3:* It doesn't matter what skin color, race, or any kind of human characteristics as long as they are well-written.
@jedithekitten8891
@jedithekitten8891 4 жыл бұрын
What? No wayyyy
@Mrmar1162
@Mrmar1162 4 жыл бұрын
Step 3 : Enjoy
@dreadontdie
@dreadontdie 4 жыл бұрын
*I still hate the fact that some cartoonist still think being black is a personality*
@nostalgicfears
@nostalgicfears 3 жыл бұрын
"Aizawa'a Trash Waifu" LMAFO ACCURATE
@sontho6995
@sontho6995 3 жыл бұрын
@Shin Shaman Man you shut up.
@SN.T.V
@SN.T.V 3 жыл бұрын
Same bro
@Moonstar79
@Moonstar79 3 жыл бұрын
@Shin Shaman “need weebao” is something I want to hear pronounced out loud
@khosusdiclor5291
@khosusdiclor5291 2 жыл бұрын
one of my characters is pretty much arab.... hes like a writer and historian for whatever his wife does in the storyline... although considering he runs a country it might be hard to avoid the oil sheik stereotype in all aspects
@ezcheese8960
@ezcheese8960 4 жыл бұрын
Everyones asking why is he black But not how is he black 😔
@johnathanhivner9337
@johnathanhivner9337 4 жыл бұрын
we live in a society bruh
@lordinatwum2129
@lordinatwum2129 4 жыл бұрын
True dat
@pokopi7863
@pokopi7863 4 жыл бұрын
M E L A N I N
@januaryravelo4342
@januaryravelo4342 4 жыл бұрын
Damn boy that's DEEP
@mollof7893
@mollof7893 4 жыл бұрын
where is he black?
@simplyjay3638
@simplyjay3638 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t write a black character, write a character that just so happens to be black
@FrenchToat
@FrenchToat 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@movedchannels3252
@movedchannels3252 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, write black CHARACTERS. Not BLACK characters
@jajagaming3602
@jajagaming3602 4 жыл бұрын
This is how I feel about anime female characters. I want Characters that happen to be female instead of the being female is their entire character.
@africanlogic2613
@africanlogic2613 4 жыл бұрын
no whites are racist
@movedchannels3252
@movedchannels3252 4 жыл бұрын
@@africanlogic2613 not all of them are -_-
@SpencerWilliamsIV
@SpencerWilliamsIV 6 жыл бұрын
There is a reason why the main character is black. It is to demonstrate that some people happen to be black.
@mannysmith7297
@mannysmith7297 6 жыл бұрын
MrConredsX So by that logic then it’s wrong for a character to be black?
@slothful2039
@slothful2039 6 жыл бұрын
@@MrConredsX Wait... I want you to re-read your words slowly. "There's a problem when literally any character is either black or female." If I'm reading this wrong please inform me but it sounds like you want every character to be a white male.
@MrConredsX
@MrConredsX 6 жыл бұрын
@@slothful2039 No, what i meant is making every character in the cast only black or only female. Witch exceptions like Boondock in which the race is relevant to the story.
@slothful2039
@slothful2039 6 жыл бұрын
@@MrConredsX Oh that makes more sense lol. The correct word would be every instead of any then.
@cameoshadowness7757
@cameoshadowness7757 6 жыл бұрын
@@MrConredsX Dude, by that logic, no character should be white/male since it isn't relivent to the story vast majoroty of the time. She-ra does have a reason, a crappy one but one none of the less, for having a prodominate female cast in universe. So your point doesn't stand because once it's flipped it falls apart. The REAL reason is pandering and bad writing but that also gose with shows with primarily a white cast.
@prestongarvey8884
@prestongarvey8884 3 жыл бұрын
How to write a black character 1. Write them as any other character Optional: use stereotypes. Not all comedy uses them How to write a character 1. Write them as any other character Optional: Sometimes be stereotypical. Not all comedy uses it Conclusion: know your audience when writing any character
@jaredsabatelli2459
@jaredsabatelli2459 3 жыл бұрын
As a kid I really didn’t think about Craig being black for Craig of the creek I just thought Hmm how the fuck did they manage to get a couch in that tree stump hideout
@prestongarvey8884
@prestongarvey8884 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaredsabatelli2459 exactly how long did that take tho
@jaredsabatelli2459
@jaredsabatelli2459 3 жыл бұрын
Good question
@prestongarvey8884
@prestongarvey8884 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaredsabatelli2459 I bet 5 dollars on 3 hours
@kakashicowboy1399
@kakashicowboy1399 3 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/h5S0noColNVsm9U
@sams_not_here
@sams_not_here 4 жыл бұрын
this is why i always loved DJ from Total Drama. He looked like what people would expect him to be: A tall strong black man. He could've been treated as a thug or be seen as ghetto. instead they showed him as a sweet, caring, and trustworthy person. Hes the one of the only characters from Total Drama who WASNT derailed
@mrkrabs459
@mrkrabs459 4 жыл бұрын
It subvert expectation that how come some show who write a black character shouldn’t do the stereotype and trope of writing a black character but make them unique and as well when someone criticize the character they shouldn’t attack or be a jerk because they think it their race or skin color or sexuality instead they need to criticize the writing of the characters just many don’t do that because they think it bad character to have a character who skin color is different and it a easy excuse for them to be racist and a-hole
@justanotherguy1122
@justanotherguy1122 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, too bad they metaphorically kicked Cj in the balls during World tour.
@dykegirl69
@dykegirl69 4 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY!
@minxxd
@minxxd 4 жыл бұрын
He got worse in world tour he only cared about a stupid curse and it messed up Lindsey when she was getting far in the game
@adrianasabode1583
@adrianasabode1583 4 жыл бұрын
Same.
@starzzzy22
@starzzzy22 4 жыл бұрын
"And for Black women? Yall got like 5...and they all got the same voice"- No truer words have been spoken, but I still love Cree Summer for all of her talents.
@getoffmygrass4857
@getoffmygrass4857 4 жыл бұрын
The rugrats had one of my favorite black female characters of all time. Susie Carmichael was like the older sister we all wanted.
@bruh-mb1rd
@bruh-mb1rd 4 жыл бұрын
Layla/Aisha from winx club was my favorite growing up
@pinkanime_cat1460
@pinkanime_cat1460 3 жыл бұрын
I don't see much black girls being a protagonist or hero of a story, especially in cartoons. If anyone can give me some recommendations then that would be nice
@pinkanime_cat1460
@pinkanime_cat1460 3 жыл бұрын
I also see black girls being protrayed as sassy or aggressive. I'm not like that at all though. Is it just me that notices this?
@starzzzy22
@starzzzy22 3 жыл бұрын
@@pinkanime_cat1460 There aren't many shows with Black girl protagonists. From the top of my head, I can only think of The Proud Family which is a fun show and getting a reboot soon (it will be interesting to see how writers handle critiques of the show having a lot of colorism in the reboot). There's also Doc McStuffins which was a preschool show. The sassy/bossy Black girl trope is definitely a real thing and it's annoying because sassy is always portrayed as negative but if a male character acted similarly he'd be "in control and taking charge", "a leader", etc.
@nearby222
@nearby222 4 жыл бұрын
"White is not the default" a lot of people don't understand what that means and I think that speaks to the issue more than anything.
@abaannsaba6697
@abaannsaba6697 4 жыл бұрын
Green is the default
@servantrider7044
@servantrider7044 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that ending line of this video was very powerful when placed at the end of this video and what it represents.
@nearby222
@nearby222 4 жыл бұрын
@P1CKLE_R1CK I don't think you really understand the statement. I'm sure you understood the words but not the meaning behind them.
@nearby222
@nearby222 4 жыл бұрын
@P1CKLE_R1CK Just asking to see how much detail I have to go into but do you play any games where you create your character or have any books you enjoy reading?
@pewpewpew3212
@pewpewpew3212 4 жыл бұрын
P1CKLE_R1CK The meaning is this: White is the majority and there are a lot of writers that are white sure, but they aren’t the default. Meaning you shouldn’t be surprised or think it’s pandering when you see a black character because other people of other races/cultures exist too
@notryguy
@notryguy 4 жыл бұрын
Black character And a character can be the same thing. Nobody calls Indiana Jones a “white character”, he’s just a character.
@wrestlinganime4life288
@wrestlinganime4life288 3 жыл бұрын
Yyyeah... But this will happen when we got more black characters as protagonist and are well written and not for diversity quota same for other POC, especially native. As for the white characters thing? Nobody refers to them like that BECAUSE they're the majority, that's it
@jairusjackson7799
@jairusjackson7799 3 жыл бұрын
@@wrestlinganime4life288 Well put.
@sebastianfeuerstein9306
@sebastianfeuerstein9306 5 жыл бұрын
Yep, exactly. Don't write a BLACK character, write a black CHARACTER :)
@sheikhu1039
@sheikhu1039 5 жыл бұрын
👌👌👌
@against_the_kitchen_floor
@against_the_kitchen_floor 5 жыл бұрын
Or you know what? Just write CHARACTERS. Thats all you need to do, make their story, their Personality, think of their looks after. Just write characters. Thats all you need to do.
@acemarvel1564
@acemarvel1564 5 жыл бұрын
On point and legit nailed it
@cjz4915
@cjz4915 5 жыл бұрын
Sebastian Feuerstein r/Im_fourteen_and_this_is_deep
@sebastianfeuerstein9306
@sebastianfeuerstein9306 5 жыл бұрын
@@cjz4915 😂👍🏼
@cerulee
@cerulee 6 жыл бұрын
I don't think a black person being in a cartoon or any form of media becomes pandering until them being black is a selling point for the show.
@retrogamer6403
@retrogamer6403 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly, that's the main reason everyone went to see Black Panther.
@MrJackblack7
@MrJackblack7 6 жыл бұрын
Retro Gamer No. Just no.
@cerulee
@cerulee 6 жыл бұрын
@@retrogamer6403 the movie wasn't as cringey as the marketing.
@retrogamer6403
@retrogamer6403 6 жыл бұрын
@@cerulee Exactly, and it look like their doing the same thing with Captain Marvel because she's a woman. Where was all this for into the spiderverse?
@cerulee
@cerulee 6 жыл бұрын
@@retrogamer6403 I'm not really happy with how they're marketing Captain Marvel, and I'm downright disgusted with her portrayal in the comics but I HOPE that she's more than just some feminist prop when the movie comes out.
@omk573
@omk573 5 жыл бұрын
It sucks that people think there are 2 races still, white and "political"
@BrianGlaze
@BrianGlaze 5 жыл бұрын
Well said
@NotSure109
@NotSure109 5 жыл бұрын
Thats actually a very good way to put it. There ARE just those two. I'm gonna use that.
@ocarinaplaya
@ocarinaplaya 5 жыл бұрын
And the people who claim there are only the 2 are the same that claim to fight for the opressed and marginalized while simultaneously demonizing people who don't care.
@realspartan5206
@realspartan5206 5 жыл бұрын
omk573 I thought there was only one race, nascar,
@omk573
@omk573 5 жыл бұрын
@@realspartan5206 _VROOOOM_ _VROOOOM_
@ratchetxtreme6591
@ratchetxtreme6591 4 жыл бұрын
The fact that anyone think Craig of the creek pandering cause it has black main character is probably the literal most dumbest thing I've ever heard .
@ratchetxtreme6591
@ratchetxtreme6591 3 жыл бұрын
@Shin Shaman I respectfully disagree.
@thecraplordsell4575
@thecraplordsell4575 3 жыл бұрын
@@ratchetxtreme6591 Ignore him, he’s a racist who thinks black characters are trash.
@izzieb.2926
@izzieb.2926 3 жыл бұрын
@@thecraplordsell4575 or he's just a troll who gets his jollies off on getting a reaction out of people?😆 Those exist too you know!
@thecraplordsell4575
@thecraplordsell4575 3 жыл бұрын
@@izzieb.2926 That too lol
@insertunoroginalnamehere6189
@insertunoroginalnamehere6189 2 жыл бұрын
Ik this reply sounds very stupid but what does pandering mean?
@Ichiyama22
@Ichiyama22 5 жыл бұрын
How to write a black character 1: Write a character 2: By the way, they're black.
@therougechipmunk8058
@therougechipmunk8058 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly. And If you want to dive into the racial divide or experiences then do so but your not forced to simply because the character your writing is black.
@pasteldreams5413
@pasteldreams5413 5 жыл бұрын
Preach! Black isn't a god damn personality trait!
@RandomSkyeRoses
@RandomSkyeRoses 4 жыл бұрын
That's why I like Spider-Verse so much
@Codi892
@Codi892 4 жыл бұрын
Except black folks have a culture outside of White America. And when that culture is ignored it is basically ignoring the main element that make black people... Well people.
@user-vw3zi2wp5w
@user-vw3zi2wp5w 4 жыл бұрын
how to write gay characters too
@mumblerogre2455
@mumblerogre2455 5 жыл бұрын
Good: black *CHARACTER* Bad: *BLACK* character
@e-jthompson6322
@e-jthompson6322 4 жыл бұрын
Mumbler Ogre that’s such a good way of putting it!
@TubbyTubMeister
@TubbyTubMeister 4 жыл бұрын
there was a joke a comedian whos name i cant remember said and it went something like, a white dude can say to me "my nigga you funny" and i wont get offended, but if he say "you are a funny nigga" then i might say something, has a similar feel to how you phrased it in a sense that it the main point doesnt have to be skin color
@hellicure
@hellicure 4 жыл бұрын
@@TubbyTubMeister if anyone said that I'd be annoyed as well, "you a funny dude" for some reason makes me feel like you said "you a clown"
@fairyjuggalo8368
@fairyjuggalo8368 4 жыл бұрын
@@TubbyTubMeister my nigga thats true.
@sweetner844
@sweetner844 4 жыл бұрын
x TealStories My anime lovers y’all got a virus
@Sunny-ek8sx
@Sunny-ek8sx 5 жыл бұрын
No black characters: Society: this is a lack of diversity Black characters: Society: this is pandering
@nyxos0
@nyxos0 5 жыл бұрын
Alex alexander oh sry I thought ur comment meant something else. Sorry for the misunderstanding!
@juniper_plant
@juniper_plant 5 жыл бұрын
exactlyyyy
@ravenn2631
@ravenn2631 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve been obsessed with Bojack Horseman, and I know Bojack is a horse and not a human being, but isn’t he technically black?
@CrashDunning
@CrashDunning 5 жыл бұрын
Two different groups of people.
@ssffe529
@ssffe529 5 жыл бұрын
@@ravenn2631 Uhhh no? Wtf
@haivenlopez
@haivenlopez 3 жыл бұрын
I want to see Black , Asian, Indigenous, Hispanic, Spanish and overall people of color. Of any gender and sexuality being represented the right way and not just stereotypes because we're people too. I also want to see also mixed people being represented too : ) I want everyone to see that no matter what gender, race and etc because we all can get along and we all have personality.
@justsomebodyyk
@justsomebodyyk 2 жыл бұрын
Dont worry just wait like 20 or 30 more years cuz i will be making a show for all well for all of those poeple that u said u just wait and see
@justsomebodyyk
@justsomebodyyk 2 жыл бұрын
Cartoon show*
@TurkishEmpire2023
@TurkishEmpire2023 2 жыл бұрын
good point but spanish people(spainards) are european/white
@whynot6266
@whynot6266 2 жыл бұрын
Technically speaking, Spanish people are white. Are you sure that you meant Latino/Latina?
@zenaz3705
@zenaz3705 2 жыл бұрын
thats why shera was such an important show for kids to see
@dennysdonuts4918
@dennysdonuts4918 4 жыл бұрын
"People feel like Craig being black is for no reason." ....you need a reason to be a race? *I'm so glad you made a strong rebuttal to that stupid idea.
@_phong.huynh_
@_phong.huynh_ 4 жыл бұрын
Then what's the reason for being white
@koolkideric3631
@koolkideric3631 4 жыл бұрын
Phong Huynh your parents are white
@october3229
@october3229 4 жыл бұрын
@@_phong.huynh_ do you need a reason to be a race it's just how you are
@_phong.huynh_
@_phong.huynh_ 4 жыл бұрын
@@koolkideric3631 I'm Asian
@koolkideric3631
@koolkideric3631 4 жыл бұрын
Phong Huynh you asked for the reason to why someone’s white and i gave you the answer
@nordinreecendo512
@nordinreecendo512 5 жыл бұрын
What do you call a black guy in space? An astronaut.
@nevaehlheaven
@nevaehlheaven 5 жыл бұрын
Nordin Reecendo I thought you were gonna say a afronaut
@Trikeman728
@Trikeman728 5 жыл бұрын
This is an extremely wholesome anti-joke that I really didn't expect I would find in the cesspool of KZbin comments lol
@JMarchel
@JMarchel 5 жыл бұрын
Fire
@bp837
@bp837 5 жыл бұрын
What if he's a cosmonaut though?
@drugdealer6
@drugdealer6 5 жыл бұрын
@@nevaehlheaven no stop it😂😂
@sofiaaviles668
@sofiaaviles668 4 жыл бұрын
It’s only an issue if being black, LGBT, etc is their whole “personality.” Just let them be people that contribute to the plot/story.
@timelordwarrior4394
@timelordwarrior4394 4 жыл бұрын
You should see Kipo. The point of the black character being LGBT is only brought up when its relevant. I think they did it great
@Mystravian
@Mystravian 4 жыл бұрын
that's only ever a problem in mediums where its the norm for all characters to be like that, usually shoddy, middle quality sitcoms. (scrubs, how I met your mother, new girl, Kimmy schmidt.) And obviously the problem isn't the taglines, its just the general oversimplified characters that sitcoms thrive on.
@KhayJayArt
@KhayJayArt 4 жыл бұрын
Bullshit. People with still call it sjw pandering and you're dumbas if you think otherwise
@galaxiegoddess
@galaxiegoddess 4 жыл бұрын
@@KhayJayArt People will call it that but its bullshit nonetheless. 🙄
@impacc4182
@impacc4182 4 жыл бұрын
TimeLordWarrior that show on Netflix? Is it good
@livvlife
@livvlife 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like whenever a show has people of color, or lgbtq people, or any other different culture then people think it’s just for the characters to be “quirky”...no. There just humans being humans!
@glassofmilk8069
@glassofmilk8069 3 жыл бұрын
Ikr like why can't characters just exist without people saying that they are only there to be "woke" or something
@sapientbirb7350
@sapientbirb7350 3 жыл бұрын
Too be fair, there are quite a few people that put way too much emphasis on the race, and way too little in character, when writing characters in the more recent years. Like Disney with their noticeably lazier forms work, the comic book industry abandoning what not only drew in an audience, but also kept an audience, writers being hired for race rather than talent, TV channels such as the CW with their shows like Supergirl and Batwoman, and more common people that get the idea to "fix" the designs of drawn characters. Then again, the last example is made up of the people you expect to find on Twitter. And it doesn't help that when they're given valid criticisms and advice, they tend to take everything as a personal attack and doom themselves into becoming default examples on what not to do in terms of writing and making characters. Though they're showing a little progress, I'm not going to put my hopes up due to the fear that they'll stomp on said hope again.
@livvlife
@livvlife 3 жыл бұрын
@@sapientbirb7350 exactly.
@khosusdiclor5291
@khosusdiclor5291 2 жыл бұрын
yes, weird, yes
@fingersarejusthandtoes9827
@fingersarejusthandtoes9827 2 жыл бұрын
I hate the writers who started these types of things because it blocks me from writing a diverse cast in my stories. People will hate on me and say I just made them that way just to make them look "unique" but no. They maybe different in some aspects, yes, but they're still normal and regular people which you can relate with. Don't get me wrong, other writers are amazing at writing a diverse cast, it's just some out there that... let's just say they're not that open minded...
@quarkmatt85
@quarkmatt85 5 жыл бұрын
Why is there even an argument about "this character is only black for the sake of being black"? Are they implying that by default all characters need to be white unless characterised by stereotypical "blackness"?
@trollface7622
@trollface7622 4 жыл бұрын
@Viz shut the fuck up racist
@stood6488
@stood6488 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that’s exactly what he was saying at 18:29
@dragonispurple6075
@dragonispurple6075 4 жыл бұрын
@@wvdk7911 can you give an example for the second reason please?
@haleydunning3819
@haleydunning3819 4 жыл бұрын
yea its like people of all races exist in the real world so whys it different on tv
@ohboy1113
@ohboy1113 4 жыл бұрын
White is default skin.
@RoundtableVids
@RoundtableVids 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you. THE HAIR THING ESPECIALLY!
@ToonrificTariq
@ToonrificTariq 6 жыл бұрын
😂✊🏾
@fluffywolfo3663
@fluffywolfo3663 6 жыл бұрын
I’ll make sure to take that into account next black character I end up drawing.
@Jjarmyboy
@Jjarmyboy 6 жыл бұрын
No wonder this was in my recommended😂😂
@BobPantsSpongeSquare97
@BobPantsSpongeSquare97 6 жыл бұрын
@Koriander Yander well east asians in general seem to be pretty xenophobic especially towards black people. They didn't like Jayden Smith kissing a Chinese girl in that karate kid remake and they altered the force awakens poster by making John boyega appear way smaller than in other promotional material
@terpsidance.
@terpsidance. 6 жыл бұрын
Especially in video games.
@daphnia9664
@daphnia9664 5 жыл бұрын
"that means that you feel like being white is the default" wow very true
@NotSure109
@NotSure109 5 жыл бұрын
It is.
@Michaela-yh9sm
@Michaela-yh9sm 5 жыл бұрын
Not Sure are you ok?
@Ellivation
@Ellivation 5 жыл бұрын
Super facts
@aspebb
@aspebb 5 жыл бұрын
@@evandomingo176 Yup.
@woopdedoop4811
@woopdedoop4811 5 жыл бұрын
Its definitely the majority in a lot of western countries but that in no way makes it the default.
@KraylebStudios
@KraylebStudios 4 жыл бұрын
Black person: *Exists* Conservatives: "It'S fOrCeD rEpReSeNtAtIoN"
@alexejnovak8693
@alexejnovak8693 4 жыл бұрын
In some cases it maybe, but personally I think that ppl in the US/other melting pots shouldn't complain about it, because it's the whole point of the melting pot: to be diverce but united
@death_paint
@death_paint 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexejnovak8693 While I agree with your statement, referring to countries as "melting pots" could be considered harmful to some degree. The point of a melting pot is to create a homogeneous mixture within, meaning that the desired outcome is for everything within to be the exact same. Try referring to them as quilt countries! Quilts are designed to be different and- quite literally- patchy, but hold together just as well as other blankets. Quilts also exist in many different cultures all over the world, so it's a great way to say that while people come from different backgrounds and retain that, we can all work together to achieve our goals.
@alexejnovak8693
@alexejnovak8693 3 жыл бұрын
@@death_paint , as a migrant myself I don't actually see any adequate benefits of multiculturalism at least in Europe. Retaining your background can be harmful to the local culture (e.g. islam and its values), so the only thing that's going on is ghettoisation, but the picture of it is colourful, bright and optimistic, while country is being literally divided and there is no common goals (Retain society before and propagating islamic (as an example) values are different goals which don't make country united. So melting pot with graduate erasing cultural differences is much better, imho
@MetaKnight964
@MetaKnight964 3 жыл бұрын
Tanooki Boy: You do realize humanity isn't hive-minded?
@KraylebStudios
@KraylebStudios 3 жыл бұрын
@@MetaKnight964 You're right, I should have said "Dumbasses" instead of "Everyone". I don't mean to sound sarcastic, you raised a valid point
@Killer36661
@Killer36661 6 жыл бұрын
Whenever someone says:”Wow, a black character for no reasons, SJW much?” I always think:”You need a reason to be black?”
@tiagodarkpeasant
@tiagodarkpeasant 6 жыл бұрын
the problem really is only when the black character have no flaws, because black people must be perfect you know, that is why i like samuel L jackson characters, they are all bad characters, even when they are the good guys, they are all different and their color only matters when they should, like in Django , nick fury is not black nor is white, he is just nick fury, actually i can remember a black character in marvel that suffers from this problem
@smalldoggo3704
@smalldoggo3704 6 жыл бұрын
Tiagorpg mendes Nick Fury was my favorite character in Django
@turkeygrasslesnatch4742
@turkeygrasslesnatch4742 6 жыл бұрын
@@tiagodarkpeasant Remember when Django assembled the Avengers
@a-drewg1716
@a-drewg1716 6 жыл бұрын
at least what I hate is when black is no longer a character design and instead a character trait as onec a character becomes identified simply by their race is when it becomes some tool for a political agenda. This goes for homosexuals as-well because alot of these characters aren't just characters who happen to be gay but are gay characters and thus get defined by their gayness. Really my problem though is this argument that black kids need a black character to look up to as that argument is completely supports that different races are a real thing, thus continuing the cycle of racism. I mean why can a kid with dark color skin not be able to look up to Peter Parker or why can a kid with fair skin not look up to Miles Morales. Why is it that skin color stops you from being able to relate to that character. (now sure a kid living in poor conditions/a ghetto won't be able to relate to a super wealthy character but he still wouldn't be able to relate as much to a extremely wealthy black character
@eadlynjune
@eadlynjune 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s a problem with the more extreme anti-SJW movement.
@sofiaoliveira7841
@sofiaoliveira7841 5 жыл бұрын
How to make black characters: Treat them like normall characters
@Scoring57
@Scoring57 5 жыл бұрын
Sofia Oliveira What's "normal"? Everyone has a cultural context. I hope you don't mean make them white characters that just look black. If you mean treat them like human beings than yes, they should do that. That doesn't exclude culture though
@sofiaoliveira7841
@sofiaoliveira7841 5 жыл бұрын
@@Scoring57 No no! I meant treat them like humans and stuff, sorry if i made it sound bad ^^"
@friedbread3817
@friedbread3817 5 жыл бұрын
If it's looks then yeah, there's differences.
@AVAL2775
@AVAL2775 5 жыл бұрын
@@Scoring57 heres a question what comes first story or culture? and why?
@jmanakajosh9354
@jmanakajosh9354 5 жыл бұрын
im in the camp where you need to preface these statements with "I don't support Tokenization"
@felix_a_fiend
@felix_a_fiend 5 жыл бұрын
My grandma asked me why I was drawing one of my characters dark skinned when I could draw them light skinned, (she’s dark skinned, Mexican, and was always mistreated by her family members who were lighter for being brown). I told her that it’s because there are dark skinned people, like her, and that it would be weird not to draw them ever as if they didn’t exist.
@snailegacy
@snailegacy 4 жыл бұрын
that makes me so sad from my heart. your g-ma saying that to you means that she held on to that mistreatment and it turned into self hate...which really brings racism into perspective. god bless you for that response though, coming from someone who used to deal with the same self hatred.
@OppoRancisis
@OppoRancisis 4 жыл бұрын
I’m sure she did
@wickedmoonwitch2822
@wickedmoonwitch2822 4 жыл бұрын
Multi-fandom B43N my mom is Salvadorian and she always says how she hates her dark skin :(
@felix_a_fiend
@felix_a_fiend 4 жыл бұрын
WickedMoonWitch that’s really sad. Try to tell her as often as possible that she’s beautiful.
@cartistan
@cartistan 4 жыл бұрын
Shut up
@theflaminglitten-fo6jd
@theflaminglitten-fo6jd 4 жыл бұрын
I feel the same could be made about any minority character in the media ''why is she a girl'' ''why are they LGBTQ+'' because they exist, because they live lives just like everyone else and deserve to be on tv just like everyone else
@sapientbirb7350
@sapientbirb7350 3 жыл бұрын
And I absolutely agree with you in that regard, but there are quite a few people that have lazy uses of said characterizations and how certain audiences respond to certain characters in the more recent years. They're showing signs of improvement, but I'm not going to too surprised if I see people paying for a 2 millionth oppressed black guy, woman with no notable weaknesses, gay person being promoted as something special before being revealed to be a very minor background character/untouched B plot, or just any character, mainly guys that are either soft spoken or have a rival, that are assumed to gay solely for having respect for someone of the same sex.
@theflaminglitten-fo6jd
@theflaminglitten-fo6jd 3 жыл бұрын
@@sapientbirb7350 yea, thats also true, there's a large chance that these characters could be done wrong or just be boring in general
@jairusjackson7799
@jairusjackson7799 3 жыл бұрын
Right, it's like G why is he a white male. They answer with *Because the writer is white* Me: So, doesn't mean all the characters he makes have to be. Him: ............
@rosebud6116
@rosebud6116 3 жыл бұрын
Wait do people actually ask “why is she a girl?” That’s dumb to say and I’m lucky I’ve never heard of it
@followengland_ballsonig2938
@followengland_ballsonig2938 2 жыл бұрын
white people man😂😂😂😂🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
@alibolink0719
@alibolink0719 4 жыл бұрын
Moral of the story: SKIN PIGMENTATION DOESN'T DETERMINE YOUR PERSONALITY
@socky2cocky
@socky2cocky 4 жыл бұрын
AliboLink_ 07 underrated comment
@alibolink0719
@alibolink0719 4 жыл бұрын
@@socky2cocky Thank you
@socky2cocky
@socky2cocky 4 жыл бұрын
AliboLink_ 07 you’re welcome B)
@queeniebeanie3196
@queeniebeanie3196 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@ineedaespresso306
@ineedaespresso306 4 жыл бұрын
Your spiting facts
@Ancienregime8090
@Ancienregime8090 5 жыл бұрын
Don't make a "Black" character. Make a character that's black.
@clorobec2625
@clorobec2625 5 жыл бұрын
Dont even make a character black. Make a character who happens to be black
@guessmyname1246
@guessmyname1246 5 жыл бұрын
Dam..... That's wise
@justahuman9273
@justahuman9273 5 жыл бұрын
@@clorobec2625 😂😂
@givecamichips
@givecamichips 5 жыл бұрын
Or, make a black character if you want, not because you think it will make people like the show.
@Prince_the_One
@Prince_the_One 5 жыл бұрын
@Dunkelwelpling They wanted a black Jedi, I loved Samuel L. Jackson. The rest of the Jedi were soft lookin conpared to him. Mace windu and Quigon jen and Yoda were practically the only truly threatening Jedi. Btw, they wanted Tupac, who I think would've been revolutionary.
@ColdCoalTV
@ColdCoalTV 5 жыл бұрын
Anyone: "Why is he black?" Me: "Would you prefer that I made him purple?"
@pj.g
@pj.g 4 жыл бұрын
ColdCoal TV just make them all oompa loompa
@fionafiona1146
@fionafiona1146 4 жыл бұрын
@@pj.g They are depicted orange, have been otherwise racist and could still be pandering. Mumiens are less controversial (by being Scandinavian, I think I have a problem).
@Momo-xs8mo
@Momo-xs8mo 4 жыл бұрын
ColdCoal TV that's funny because the bullies in the proud family are blue
@fionafiona1146
@fionafiona1146 4 жыл бұрын
@reeeboi The implications may have been South American in both movies but neither would be a surprise.
@fionafiona1146
@fionafiona1146 4 жыл бұрын
@reeeboi Making it no less racist and therefore inappropriate for casual mention, let alone positive display towards children.
@Cat-mv6il
@Cat-mv6il 3 жыл бұрын
Craig of the creek is a cute children’s show with a kid that likes adventures with his friends I saw a wrinkle in time and it was incredible
@jaredsabatelli2459
@jaredsabatelli2459 3 жыл бұрын
I think I also say a wrinkle in time Don’t remember it sadly
@sapientbirb7350
@sapientbirb7350 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely agree with you with Craig of the Creek, but not so much about a Wrinkle in Time. Kinda found it to be a little bland in some areas, mostly concerning how there was an actual, tangible source of the dark parts of humanity, and how the little kid immediately trusted a complete stranger within the darkness despite knowing where he was and witnessing a taste of what's wrong with said darkness.
@teathie8224
@teathie8224 2 жыл бұрын
I completely love Craig of the Creek but I really hated watching the Wrinkle in Time movie as I read and analyzed the book. I watched the movie with the book fresh in my mind and watched it carefully to see how it would compare. This really ruined the movie for me, especially the ending as I was so excited to see how they would show some characters
@Whatsevenhappeningrightnow
@Whatsevenhappeningrightnow 6 жыл бұрын
I never understood the Mentality that a character needs a reason to be any race. Once I was drawing one of my characters and she was black just because when I designed her I thought that skin tone looked pretty on her specifically. People kept asking me why she was black and I was so confused. She was black because black people are exist.
@theydevildesigns
@theydevildesigns 6 жыл бұрын
I agree. Unless your character is a stereotype, you shouldn’t need any specific reason to give them a certain race/gender/sexuality as long as that’s not their only trait.
@ilitardo160
@ilitardo160 6 жыл бұрын
I usually make character a race based on the character design. Nothing else
@thekrusadr
@thekrusadr 6 жыл бұрын
The question come out. *Does black people are exist?!*
@Scoring57
@Scoring57 6 жыл бұрын
​@@theydevildesigns So basically 'don't make them about their race in a good way but go ahead make them about their race in a bad way'? Why is it more of a problem to have a character who's only quality is their race in a positive way versus a character who's only quality is their race in a negative way (aka a "stereotype")?
@theydevildesigns
@theydevildesigns 6 жыл бұрын
Scoring57 That’s not what I was talking about. A character’s race shouldn’t affect their personality in any way because it’s just a skin tone. If being a specific race is a character’s only “trait”, then they’re useless and are (usually) only shoved into whatever series they’re in for diversity points.
@parsleytheherb7505
@parsleytheherb7505 4 жыл бұрын
“That’s because you feel like being white is the default” *man what a mic drop!*
@Pironesia
@Pironesia 4 жыл бұрын
I KNOW RIGHT. I think he's totally on the money with that. Grrat video, great points. Im sharing this with everyone I can.
@calebrose740
@calebrose740 4 жыл бұрын
Don't drop Mic, he's precious
@xN0XvRVLEZx
@xN0XvRVLEZx 4 жыл бұрын
sarcasm?
@xN0XvRVLEZx
@xN0XvRVLEZx 4 жыл бұрын
@@Pironesia sarcasm?
@Pironesia
@Pironesia 4 жыл бұрын
@@xN0XvRVLEZx Negative
@sabrinaleedance
@sabrinaleedance 5 жыл бұрын
Did anyone else just find out that Johnny from Ed Edd and Eddy is black? I had no idea
@ToonrificTariq
@ToonrificTariq 5 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2aZlHqDbbaGg9k
@tiffakang4525
@tiffakang4525 5 жыл бұрын
Same
@corsariocapitao
@corsariocapitao 5 жыл бұрын
@@ToonrificTariq I'm one of the smart ones - yay.
@tatianalee4131
@tatianalee4131 5 жыл бұрын
Barney was black too
@taisstea7306
@taisstea7306 5 жыл бұрын
Yea never noticed as a kid
@chaaaargh
@chaaaargh 3 жыл бұрын
that last line about people seeing white as a default, and then the montage of black characters was so spot on. especially with the music. this was such a well put together video, you completely voiced out my thoughts, especially as a black person who grew up head over heels in love with animation. we are just everyday people, who deserve to be represented in an everyday, normal way.
@RapCritic
@RapCritic 6 жыл бұрын
Explained why I don't like the cleveland show, perfectly.
@ToonrificTariq
@ToonrificTariq 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you, man. I guess it’ll probably be a bit awkward if I gush about how much I love your work right now, huh?
@Krakdawg
@Krakdawg 6 жыл бұрын
You wouldn't be the only one to. Both you guys do amazing work.
@Martnmaceda
@Martnmaceda 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Rap Critic
@2yoyoyo1Unplugged
@2yoyoyo1Unplugged 6 жыл бұрын
I’m not even black and I came to that conclusion. There was no substance to the writing, and it felt like they expected the show’s joke mileage to extend purely on “i’m black,” rather than actual jokes.
@_KRYMZN_
@_KRYMZN_ 6 жыл бұрын
OHMIGODITSRAPCRITIC
@GigiMurakami
@GigiMurakami 5 жыл бұрын
"And for black women--they all have the same damn voice!" BRUHHHHHH BIG FACTS!!! Lol
@FRANCEYVO
@FRANCEYVO 5 жыл бұрын
Big facts
@44dav44
@44dav44 5 жыл бұрын
I lost it! Cree Summer is a queen but women of color need way more representation in cartoons and the animation industry.
@seannborba8416
@seannborba8416 5 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say it's the same voice but the same accent. It's always like an old louisiana accent
@44dav44
@44dav44 5 жыл бұрын
Seann Borba well it’s mostly a joke about Cree Summer voicing majority of black female cartoon characters. Lol
@cee5611
@cee5611 5 жыл бұрын
@astralips i get the same thing, I'm black and people say i have a "white" voice.. It gets really annoying like how the hell am i 'supposed' to sound??
@astergh0st
@astergh0st 4 жыл бұрын
Asking why a character has the skin tone they have is like asking why they have the hair colour they have.
@justanidiotontheinternet6365
@justanidiotontheinternet6365 4 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!
@khosusdiclor5291
@khosusdiclor5291 2 жыл бұрын
most of my villains in my stories are communists eastern bloc and east asian men tbh...
@SieMiezekatze
@SieMiezekatze 2 жыл бұрын
@@khosusdiclor5291 seems like you had some internalised racism
@louise4152
@louise4152 2 жыл бұрын
@@SieMiezekatze not necessarily jshss
@Lyss-Jack
@Lyss-Jack Жыл бұрын
@@khosusdiclor5291 Keep on the right path my brother, keep writting shit about those damn commies and all those mothefuckers from E-Asia, except from those from thailand, those are cool, real homies
@spicelord4688
@spicelord4688 4 жыл бұрын
Real talk... over a year ago I was in a rabbit hole of alt right content and I truly believed anyone that was different from me in a movie or show was considered pandering. I’m not even white. This video really got me out of that rabbit hole and I unsubscribed from the channels that gave me such a negative mindset. I will not name them but some of them talk about entertain like Star Wars and make it political when it’s not that deep. I’m glad I watched this video. My views changed when he said “ because you think being white is the default. “
@myloa.3694
@myloa.3694 6 жыл бұрын
i was today years old when i found out Johnny from Ed, Edd, and Eddy was black
@voidthevoidbehindtheslaugh6770
@voidthevoidbehindtheslaugh6770 5 жыл бұрын
Mylo A. I always thought he was latino.
@BetweentheBeans
@BetweentheBeans 5 жыл бұрын
You're not alone. I'm surprised this isn't a top comment. Did your parents say you weren't allowed to watch that as a kid too? Mine weren't about it and I've heard the same from a bunch of friends.
@voidthevoidbehindtheslaugh6770
@voidthevoidbehindtheslaugh6770 5 жыл бұрын
Between the Beans they actually did let me watch it, they never saw any problem on doing it.
@myloa.3694
@myloa.3694 5 жыл бұрын
@@BetweentheBeans My granddad thought it was incredibly stupid and shamed me for voluntarily letting my brain melt, but he never made me change the channel. I just did it so he'd relax lol
@youraveragetheatrenerd2330
@youraveragetheatrenerd2330 5 жыл бұрын
Mylo A. Me too sis
@garrett291
@garrett291 6 жыл бұрын
Black people in cartoons were so powerful they brought ToonrificTariq out of retirement.
@ToonrificTariq
@ToonrificTariq 6 жыл бұрын
Maaaaaaaan. 😂😂😂
@joz2012
@joz2012 6 жыл бұрын
ToonrificTariq on ya ass!! Lmaooo
@rararasputin8608
@rararasputin8608 6 жыл бұрын
My man Vergil/Static was the main man when it came to black heroes as I grew up.
@cripplinganxiety1941
@cripplinganxiety1941 6 жыл бұрын
"No wait thats a real one call the cop's"
@packles5844
@packles5844 6 жыл бұрын
Your 1000th like, not gonna say “No need to say thank you” because it could’ve been anyone
@virginiavass1597
@virginiavass1597 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a black women. I want to be a voice actor, and for once, I just want to play characters that don't have a political statement behind it. Lemme just be the nerdy girl that I am bruh.
@mackennasturdevant662
@mackennasturdevant662 6 жыл бұрын
i really hope you get that opportunity. the cartoon world desperately needs more black female characters that aren’t political tokens.
@sapphazard8349
@sapphazard8349 6 жыл бұрын
me too! i want to be a voice actress really bad. we seriously need the representation
@Scoring57
@Scoring57 6 жыл бұрын
Virginia Vass Nothing wrong with "political statements" when they're needed. Also I wouldn't even consider most of these "political statement". Sometimes it's just stating the truth. Also, they probably should get black voice actors to voice black people instead of white people doing imitations of black people. I doubt they'd allow black people to do legit voice acting while imitating white people. Maybe as a joke or something but not without anyone's knowledge.
@virginiavass1597
@virginiavass1597 6 жыл бұрын
@@Scoring57 Yeah that's true, we definitely need to state the truth about what's going on in our lives and culture. It would be nice to see more black cartoon characters without them having a reason for being black though. Heck, it would be nice to see more black characters, period. I mean, why can't we be Steven Universe or Finn the Human? Also, what I like about voice acting as opposed to stage or film acting is that there is more freedom in the parts you can play. Anything is possible. Can't wait to get started!
@fierywolverine5044
@fierywolverine5044 6 жыл бұрын
@@virginiavass1597 If you want BLACK characters then go back to AFRICA. There's so much black there people are starving to death in the streets.
@pancakesbf2704
@pancakesbf2704 3 жыл бұрын
Fillmore is a genius cartoon, he’s just a solid character, and wasn’t created just TO BE black, he was just a great character that HAPPENED to be black, and that is truly the best black characters
@joshuanorman2
@joshuanorman2 4 жыл бұрын
"Black for no other reason than being black" So for what reason are characters white? You don't need a reason for *skin*
@pushog5781
@pushog5781 4 жыл бұрын
bc most cartoon characters are white
@moodle6500
@moodle6500 4 жыл бұрын
@@pushog5781 so what ?
@avocadosfrommexico6234
@avocadosfrommexico6234 4 жыл бұрын
Moodle because there is little to no diversity in shows and even if there is the black person always acts like the black stereotype
@moodle6500
@moodle6500 4 жыл бұрын
@@avocadosfrommexico6234 yes, but why should it be like this ?
@avocadosfrommexico6234
@avocadosfrommexico6234 4 жыл бұрын
Moodle idk that’s just society tbh
@skylar408
@skylar408 5 жыл бұрын
“For no other reason than being black.” I mean? Are people usually black for a reason? Do these people just run up to a black person on the street and ask “why are you black?”
@Ian-by5ko
@Ian-by5ko 5 жыл бұрын
Broken Music Box He is talking about the reason why people implement black characters into their show. Some do it to make sure there is diversity in their show, some do it to tell a story specifically about their race whether it be in a good way or a bad way, and some do it as simply by randomly assigning a race.
@g.ferreira6745
@g.ferreira6745 5 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of that video with the news reporter asking the other guy "why are u gay?" Lol
@TheTrueMrRugges
@TheTrueMrRugges 5 жыл бұрын
Broken Music Box they did,in the 20th Century
5 жыл бұрын
@@Ian-by5ko yeah but why should there be a reason to have a black character
@ELbabotas1
@ELbabotas1 5 жыл бұрын
To talk discrimination yo
@ImJustSayin2014
@ImJustSayin2014 5 жыл бұрын
This is seriously one of the best written and articulated breakdowns of African-Americans in popular media, particularly animated media. you illustrated points I’ve always thought but never been able to put into words. Excellent work!
@superiorpanda6449
@superiorpanda6449 3 жыл бұрын
"That means that you think that being white is the default" Holy crap man, you hit it on the nail 👏🏾
@melofiloxd1429
@melofiloxd1429 3 жыл бұрын
It is.
@superiorpanda6449
@superiorpanda6449 3 жыл бұрын
@@melofiloxd1429 It’s clearly not
@melofiloxd1429
@melofiloxd1429 3 жыл бұрын
@@superiorpanda6449 70% of the US population is white.
@superiorpanda6449
@superiorpanda6449 3 жыл бұрын
@@melofiloxd1429 uhm you do realize the US population isn’t that of the entire world right?
@melofiloxd1429
@melofiloxd1429 3 жыл бұрын
@@superiorpanda6449 that's only relevant if the fiction work is set outside of the US. If it's set in China, Chinese demographics are all that matter. If it's set in Sub-saharan africa, Sub-saharan demographics are all that matter, if it's set in the Middle East and North Africa, North African and Middle-eastern demographics are all that matter, and if it's set on the US, like almost all of these animations in the video are, only US demographics matter.
@jaytoonz5736
@jaytoonz5736 4 жыл бұрын
Total Drama had it's number of black characters, and just about all of them had different personalities. I can't name all of them, but the ones I do name are all completely different from one-another... Leshawna: The sassy black girl, kinda like Zuri from Disney Channel's Jessie. She isn't scared of anyone and she isn't ashamed of her body. DJ: A kind-hearted, soft and friendly guy who's scared of almost everything. I guess you would probably expect something like this considering the fact the show was on Cartoon Network. Lightning: The big buff jock who thinks he's better than everyone. He seeks attention and isn't afraid to do whatever it takes to win. Cameron: The exact opposite of Lightning. He's the small scrawny nerd who gets picked on by almost everyone. Cameron's kind of like A.J from The Fairly Odd Parents when it comes to being smart and using his brain more than most other characters.
@euphoria3301
@euphoria3301 4 жыл бұрын
while this is true and they did have different personalities, I feel like Leshawna was still one of those characters who was written as BLACK, before she was written as a character. She had the stereotype of the loud, ghetto, and sassy black woman.
@merakimoira4905
@merakimoira4905 4 жыл бұрын
@@euphoria3301 I love Bakugou with black hair. 10/10
@euphoria3301
@euphoria3301 4 жыл бұрын
CheerySoup YOU HAVE TASTE 💕💕💕
@merakimoira4905
@merakimoira4905 4 жыл бұрын
@@euphoria3301 thank you!
@theendisnear2028
@theendisnear2028 4 жыл бұрын
@@euphoria3301 I think it meant to fill in a reality TV stereotype of a strong sassy woman because total drama meant to be a parody
@tiredox3788
@tiredox3788 4 жыл бұрын
It would be best if you had talked about Anime because many black anime fans get attacked by weeaboos just because they give opinions on Black characters in Anime or draw a black character for fan art series.
@Scoring57
@Scoring57 4 жыл бұрын
BYRON NOBLE They's just racists, mostly whyte racists. They'll attack black characters in any medium, they don't have to be "weeaboos".
@m.s.flores
@m.s.flores 4 жыл бұрын
I think that'd be a great separate video! :) I love hearing video essays like this, and the racism in anime is very stark a lot of the time. I really like hearing opinions and thoughts on it, rather than pretending it isn't there. I like anime, and have several black friends who also like anime, but I'm not in the anime subculture so to hear about this type of toxicity was so shocking, I was totally ignorant of it. Thanks for bringing it up here! Definitely needs to get brought up in the zeitgeist and talked about imo.
@tiredox3788
@tiredox3788 4 жыл бұрын
@@Scoring57 True.
@tiredox3788
@tiredox3788 4 жыл бұрын
@@m.s.flores Well long as you understand the problem.
@Sage-ve3pl
@Sage-ve3pl 4 жыл бұрын
And when they aren't even white, they are Asian, at least most anime characters are. Like, I love when people shift the skin tone in fanart Because they either are a darker skin tone/ want to be more diverse than the source material.
@WeegeeSlayer123
@WeegeeSlayer123 6 жыл бұрын
Wait, Johnny from Ed Edd n' Eddy was black?!
@theoneandonly7063
@theoneandonly7063 6 жыл бұрын
Yes
@bleeploughly6311
@bleeploughly6311 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah I didn’t know either
@strigvon1441
@strigvon1441 6 жыл бұрын
I love ed edd n eddy because you got every color there is lol
@theblackoutexplorer2658
@theblackoutexplorer2658 6 жыл бұрын
WeegeeSlayer I thought he was either Spanish or white or something
@Magicarpmaster
@Magicarpmaster 6 жыл бұрын
Seems more like a hispanic skin color to me
@mikasasharem7967
@mikasasharem7967 2 жыл бұрын
Bro as a black 16 year old girl… this video still means a lot. Like I’m basically the YOU of my school where I can go one very long rants about obscure or v popular cartoons that nobody bothered to finish, and cartoons are literally my favorite pastime, my favorite thing to write about, and the literal biggest factor in who I am today. However I literally know like 4 black girls from those cartoons… suzie, numbah 5, doc mcstuffins, and penny proud.
@-karma-2426
@-karma-2426 Жыл бұрын
I'm 14 now, and I remember seeing this video when I was about 11 or 12. Started my love for character and media analysis. Blew my mind how he voiced so many of the things I subconscious noticed all the time but was never able to articulate or even think to talk about. Still one of my fav videos on KZbin
@rendiggietydog
@rendiggietydog 5 жыл бұрын
"that means that you feel like being white is the default" BAM!!
@DianeCooperTW
@DianeCooperTW 5 жыл бұрын
It is the default
@ethangallagher7314
@ethangallagher7314 5 жыл бұрын
rendiggietydog that was such a good way to put it tbh
@JuanDiaz-um1mx
@JuanDiaz-um1mx 5 жыл бұрын
because when you live in an 70%+ white country it's more likely that white people are creating the shows that can relate to other white people... go to China and see how man Black/White people there are on their television or movies.
@mattmadman6728
@mattmadman6728 5 жыл бұрын
Juan Diaz China being shit at it doesn’t give others the excuse to suck at it.
@deonduran9849
@deonduran9849 5 жыл бұрын
Legit got chills when he delivered that bomb. With the jazz piano riff? Fucking genius.
@adiac6386
@adiac6386 4 жыл бұрын
When I was younger I was told I looked like numbuh 5, princess tiana, doc mcstuffins, and the girl from the polar express. I don’t think any of them look particularly alike it’s just that they were the only black female cartoon characters that other children were exposed too. It’s also an issue in literature. I loved to read growing up but I didn’t see myself in the characters often. I would reread the hunger games so I could read rue’s lines out loud back before the movie came out. I loved American girl and the only doll I could relate to at the time was Addy who was an escaped slave. In all of my time being obsessed with American girl I have only seen 3 black dolls in their historical line up. One was a slave, one was from New Orleans and was taken out of the line up years ago, and the last one was a civil rights activist. People really feel that characters can only be black if it’s their entire story and personality. That has an effect on the children who never see themselves unless they’re struggling or being called out on their skin.
@pinkpugginz
@pinkpugginz 3 жыл бұрын
Omfg so true and annoying. My roommate is black and he has dreads and so many people have said he looked like Richard Sherman, or insert other black dude with dreads here, and even ask to touch his hair! To me that is ignorance and racism. He looks nothing like those people. Having to compare someone to a character or someone else solely on their skin color is messed up. P.s. I also loved American girl and remember there never being many POC dolls
@alext3480
@alext3480 3 жыл бұрын
yes so true lol i got kaya bc her skin was dark and i didn't know who native americans were
@alext3480
@alext3480 3 жыл бұрын
@@pinkpugginz they did. they had Kaya, Josfina, Addy, Julie's friend...but it was few
@pretzeldragon2975
@pretzeldragon2975 3 жыл бұрын
Hold up. There's a slave american girl doll? Tf?
@izzieb.2926
@izzieb.2926 3 жыл бұрын
@@alext3480 ivy Ling. That was Julie's friend. And the girl from New Orleans name was cécile.
@bjaanderson
@bjaanderson 6 жыл бұрын
"No white cartoonist knows how to draw a fade." 😂💀
@MrSirFluffy
@MrSirFluffy 6 жыл бұрын
It's hard to draw fades with vector colors, as someone who rocks a fade I figured that out when I was learning vector art. This is why the sharp cut is so popular in animation, it's a substitute for a fade. You know, when they have a buzz cut on the sides than it just changes to long hair instantly. Like Kai from Legend of Korra.
@elgatochurro
@elgatochurro 6 жыл бұрын
Racism
@SirAuronthehonorable
@SirAuronthehonorable 6 жыл бұрын
Pixie Panda Plush couldn’t you pull off an animated fade if you treated that layer as an always static object...like what they did in Chowder.
@Stigsnake5
@Stigsnake5 6 жыл бұрын
No animator aint got time to spend on drawing detailed hairstyles for every character when it's not important. A main character yeah.
@cookiemonster6587
@cookiemonster6587 6 жыл бұрын
@@MrSirFluffy it's not hard
@kingshark422
@kingshark422 2 жыл бұрын
As a Mexican who often notices that Hispanics don’t get a lot of shows and movies I also agree with a hispanic version of the leading statement you made in the “cuz he black” section. I love Encanto because the characters are hispanic and it makes me feel represented and it feels nice to be able to relate to them more than a white character.
@db20193
@db20193 6 жыл бұрын
He's right about all black girls being voiced by Cree Summer, she's everywhere
@kbscheme
@kbscheme 6 жыл бұрын
db20193 on one hand i agree but on the other hand can you really blame her for being a great voice actor
@db20193
@db20193 6 жыл бұрын
@@kbscheme She is a great voice actor. I was just saying she does voice most of the black girl characters
@FromMyPerspectPhoto
@FromMyPerspectPhoto 6 жыл бұрын
@@db20193 Well, I wanna ask how many black VAs have worked to reach her level of universal presence?
@brittislove
@brittislove 6 жыл бұрын
I think she also did voice work in the original Fallout games. Oh, and she WAS FOXY LOVE YA'LL! HEY HEY HEY! Fucking amazing voice actress
@Hwarming
@Hwarming 6 жыл бұрын
And all Asian women being Lauren Tom
@emoliravioli
@emoliravioli 5 жыл бұрын
Society: *demands more diversity* Society when they actually get diverse characters: tHaT'S pAnDeRiNg!!
@JeiJozefu
@JeiJozefu 5 жыл бұрын
Society is defined by its loudest members.
@tamalemuncher789
@tamalemuncher789 5 жыл бұрын
Of course. One group is SJW, and the other is anti SJW
@elijahdavila3684
@elijahdavila3684 5 жыл бұрын
@@tamalemuncher789 SJW is a pejorative created by right leaning social circles to de-legitimize the voices and concerns of minorities including but not limited to people of color and the LGBTQ+ communities. It's not a productive or wise term to throw around.
@tamalemuncher789
@tamalemuncher789 5 жыл бұрын
@@elijahdavila3684 no, its to prove the majority wrong, and to show that they need to stop popularizing or degrading everything they touch just to fulfill thier desires to be an effective member of society
@tamalemuncher789
@tamalemuncher789 5 жыл бұрын
@Ryan Kruse just like every other word, and re-done definition.
@BrotherMalMusic
@BrotherMalMusic 6 жыл бұрын
7:03 Shout out to Cree Summer, she really does a lot of the voices for Black female characters, & characters in general. Susie, Numbuh 5, Cleo from _Clifford_ , Miranda from _As Told by Ginger_ , Foxxy Love, this woman's a legend honestly.
@greder23
@greder23 6 жыл бұрын
Medusa in the new Kid Icarus game from a few years back...
@nannmaa1266
@nannmaa1266 6 жыл бұрын
Foxxy love
@refusingtoconform
@refusingtoconform 6 жыл бұрын
Mad love for this lady
@TrueKingOfTheWolves
@TrueKingOfTheWolves 6 жыл бұрын
Voice of a god damn angel!
@austinsmith8610
@austinsmith8610 4 жыл бұрын
I’m a creative writing major in college, and I’ve tried multiple times writing characters that were black, lgbtq+, women or other types of people that don’t come from the same background or lifestyle than I am. If I may be honest, it’s so much more difficult than writing characters like myself. It’s been said, “write what you know,” and while yes that is the easiest way to get the best story possible, but attempting to write other types of people’s perspectives makes you a better writer and helps you grow in empathy and understanding about other peoples feelings and experiences. Also, we know how much white people dominate Hollywood and the art we see today. It’s definitely grown toward other people, with movies like moonlight and get out, but white people still dominate both the starring roles and the executives. We want to see more people of different backgrounds than ‘white dude fresh out of Cali film school’ in our movies and tv and making them, but to say that only women can write women, or blacks can only write blacks is asking the industry to white wash what little we have now. We want representation, and I think the best way to do that is to be open to people attempting to write outside their own perspective and help them see how to write it better. We all want to represent other people in the best way, but oftentimes it won’t look great the first time around. Black people are still people, we should write them that way. Great video.
@Galaxylion_omega
@Galaxylion_omega 3 жыл бұрын
My advice if you have any poc ask them about there culture and life being a poc than go from therw
@juanrisa945
@juanrisa945 3 жыл бұрын
@@Galaxylion_omega I know two series creators sort of did that: 1) Matt Braly createda female-led series called Amphibia, and he called three women to serve as writers, and the writing team is of four writers. 2) Dana Terrace, creator of Disney's The Owl House, made the lead character Afro-Latina after her friend Luz Batiste, who works as consultant and story artist in the show and is Afro-Latina herself, asked her to do so in exchange of letting Terrace using her name for the lead character, even througth Terrace is white. And if she asked her friend to do such big thing, she must have known she would do it right.
@pre-packaged_9692
@pre-packaged_9692 4 жыл бұрын
"That character is black just for the sake of being black." Yes.
@Ox-Plays
@Ox-Plays 5 жыл бұрын
"Because you think being white is the default" is the perfect summary. Also, being male, this shit drives me insane with the 'older generations' like sure, some things are there just trying to cash in on "Look at all the female leads" ( ghost busters reboot, I'm looking at you ) " look how progressive we are" thing, but I've had relatives get upset over the increase in black and female movies leads because ' They gotta be in everything now ' and ironically, this relative isn't even white, he's half native american. I think some of his issue is because there is rarely native representation, but he still defaults to white.
@sarahperkins6421
@sarahperkins6421 5 жыл бұрын
Conga line of shows with an all white cast: One black character is introduced: _They gotta be in everything now._
@Ox-Plays
@Ox-Plays 5 жыл бұрын
@@sarahperkins6421 Yeah, I guess because of things being overwhelmingly white for so long, its kind of ingrained in peoples minds that that is the standard. Which is obviously shitty for anyone thats not white, but also kinda sucks for white people, I mean they are thought of as the base model, like a honda civic with no V-tech and all plastic interior. lol
@Dexterandfriends88
@Dexterandfriends88 5 жыл бұрын
Well from my point of view it seems very forced and the characters are written to be the character they are stereotyping
@dbchoobie1924
@dbchoobie1924 5 жыл бұрын
@@Ox-Plays there's tons of white people in shows normally because whites make up the majority of the population in America same with every other place. Like China, normally Chinese leading roles and Russia same with Africa and so on.
@dbchoobie1924
@dbchoobie1924 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not particularly upset over black people or females being roles, it's normally the people behind them who mess up I have such a problem with. I'm so used to seeing them politicized, it leaves a bad taste in peoples mouth so people expect it to be a political or something which is disappointing.
@DanHiteshew-oneandonly
@DanHiteshew-oneandonly 6 жыл бұрын
I love the fact that Craig's race seemingly has zero to do with anything. He just happens to be a black kid. The "default" mentality is an excellent point, and great way to end this video. And I had no idea Johnny 2x4 is black until I saw this video. Lol
@Shorteagle
@Shorteagle 6 жыл бұрын
Johnny 2x4 was Mexican I believe. I haven't watched the program in years so I could be completely wrong though.
@terrenceharris-hughes4436
@terrenceharris-hughes4436 6 жыл бұрын
Was Johnny black? I just thought that's just how they drew him like how Ed was yellow
@ajh.7868
@ajh.7868 6 жыл бұрын
@@Shorteagle Mexican isn't a race. A black person, a native person and even a white person can be Mexican.
@infinityzombi6287
@infinityzombi6287 6 жыл бұрын
Oh thank God, someone brought it up so I didn't have too.
@silverdragon122
@silverdragon122 6 жыл бұрын
@@terrenceharris-hughes4436 Let's be real, color meant jack shit in Ed Edd 'n Eddy. Ed was Pink and Edd was yellow, for god's sake. (And i don't mean asian). I just can't see Johnny as black, he's just some weird kid.
@Primus101
@Primus101 2 жыл бұрын
Im glad you put in Miles within your video. He’s a great character that I relate to a lot when it comes to struggle in life. Like in the beginning of Spiderverse where they show case his struggle fitting in to his new school and keeping up with the schools curriculums, trying to study and failed his test. I was in college when I saw that in theater and dude I shed tiers when seeing miles going through all these corses because that’s how I experienced going through college at the time. I struggle to be a good student but it didn’t always cut out. Plus he’s an artist like me. He draws in his spare time at his desk like me with no worries. I didn’t care if he doesn’t have the same skin color as me,(even though we’re both Latinos)I care because we both struggle with our daily lives. So yeah I’m glad you featured miles within your video.
@PauloVitorHMK
@PauloVitorHMK 6 жыл бұрын
How to black: Write any character you like then paint it black. There, i saved you 20 minutes of your life.
@ToonrificTariq
@ToonrificTariq 6 жыл бұрын
I fucking love this comment so much.
@Odinsday
@Odinsday 6 жыл бұрын
Why would you say something so controversial, yet so brave?
@destinyn63
@destinyn63 6 жыл бұрын
PauloVitorHMK thank you !
@GeteMachine
@GeteMachine 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, its a much faster way to get out of the "how do black people act/talk" creative phase people used to have.
@partyrock7099
@partyrock7099 6 жыл бұрын
I mean it’s not really that hard
@TsaDude
@TsaDude 5 жыл бұрын
"That means that you feel like being white is the default" The whole video could be summed up with this single line. Great video!
@Therookefortuncookie
@Therookefortuncookie 5 жыл бұрын
M33ble no
@caleviwin
@caleviwin 5 жыл бұрын
@@Therookefortuncookie i mean...yeah. in America thats not the case but in places with more poc they are the default just like in places like Russia, where white is definitely the default. In America however white is not the default.
@Therookefortuncookie
@Therookefortuncookie 5 жыл бұрын
caleviwin no
@VickHushpuppy215
@VickHushpuppy215 5 жыл бұрын
Lacey Legrone fam we only 13% of the population in America expecting any more than 13% of a black population in any white dominated field is kinda crazy lol
@steffenebener7332
@steffenebener7332 5 жыл бұрын
Isnt white the default in the US? Since they make up the biggest part of the population there?
@seza9240
@seza9240 4 жыл бұрын
You're crazy smart how you broke this all down. Now imagine being Native American, the people who have lived on this land before everybody else. We get little to no representation.
@omarduncan4904
@omarduncan4904 4 жыл бұрын
@Courageous Badger Hey, i agree. I am mixed but mostly "black". I am currently learning Cheokee, Cree and Navojo! And i know that there are many native cultures that are as different from each other as the English are from the Chinese. I also strongly believe that there there were two types of natives in the Americas the "Asian" looking type and natives who had dark skin with thicker hair. I most American blacks are decended from dark skinned natives and Africans.
@KT-el6yn
@KT-el6yn 4 жыл бұрын
Nigga u said it, ty brotha
@snooperslooth2795
@snooperslooth2795 4 жыл бұрын
But how would you know? If a character's race isn't identified, a character you assume is white, or some other race, could be Native American. The problem here is that as soon as you identify the character as a particular race, then that becomes the focus of the character. Then that character becomes the spokesman for all [insert race], and you inevitably end up with accusations of stereotyping.
@nothingnothing6879
@nothingnothing6879 4 жыл бұрын
NATIVE PRIDE
@bishopnickle2207
@bishopnickle2207 4 жыл бұрын
@Courageous Badger wow good job that is one of the most professionally handled arguments I've seen on the internet👏👏👏
@T1J
@T1J 3 жыл бұрын
amazing video
@callie4808
@callie4808 6 жыл бұрын
I'm in my last year of character design and animation in college and you'd be surprised how many times I've had to rationalize making a character not white by simply stating that I wanted them to be a different race. They were normal every day people that I saw as Asian or black or whatever, and professors and peers ask for a backstory like it's going to explain why they are not white. It's weird and it seems small to some people but it's important to see characters that aren't defined by their race or sexual orientation or gender and just make them a dynamic person; especially if that trait in the past has been the only characterization shown for that group. When I see it done corrrectly I really admire and appreciate it, and I'm a white girl from Alberta!
@lilmike2060
@lilmike2060 6 жыл бұрын
Instead of being mad when people ask for backstory be happy it means that the fact that they aren't white characters people are even more intrigued you peaked and interest without even doing anything
@FullMetalKaliber
@FullMetalKaliber 6 жыл бұрын
Agent Smith I don’t see it as a problem. Believing that she should only stick to certain race is probably why we are so misrepresented in the first place. Let her get to know our beauty passed being a carbon copy of a white character
@sommerblume9671
@sommerblume9671 6 жыл бұрын
Agent Smith True but if a person wants to draw or animate or create someone who isn't white or typical.. why can't they? It's still just as interesting and when done well it's great bc you can include certain cultural references or designs - or not to that to show that not everyone of x race or x ethnicity is the same.
@sommerblume9671
@sommerblume9671 6 жыл бұрын
Agent Smith That i agree with. When i think of special or unique i think of quirks they may have, certain ambitious or goals, their talents or maybe even powers, and the actual theme. Not... "hey black girls are super niche especially if they are nerdy right?" actually gross lol.
@emperorarima3225
@emperorarima3225 6 жыл бұрын
@Agent Smith Nice strawman. First of all the reason we're being misrepresented hasn't been nor is it "pandering", it's racism and established stereotypes. And that bigotted attitude you have does no race any favors. Yes, a character isn't original just because it's black. Yes nobody should celebrate some bullshit no quality character just because of the shade of their skin. Yes the belief anything non-white is automatically good or bad is stupid and unfortunately quite popular amongst people. But after watching this video, how could you be so incapable of comprehending what was said? That's not the agenda being pushed here. What is being pushed is that black people are people, so unless you're saying we're more like exotic creatures than normal homo sapiens, there's no problem with a white person trying their hands at crafting a black character, so long as they don't just force the "black personality" or just copy and paste typical black stuff for no reason. And as stated by the video, if you're going to try and elaborate on the "black experience", things like racism, music, culture, difficulty getting a job, gangs, Black power, slavery, police brutality etc., like with everything that has serious meaning to the persons involved, get personally involved and do your fucking homework before publishing it. That's all. As long as black people continue to see in black and white and not understand nuance, context and logical consistency (as a whole group), we'll never acquire the knowledge or the tools to craft a better niche in society for ourselves.
@Jakeneutron
@Jakeneutron 6 жыл бұрын
God bless this video 💖💖💖
@picassomarble5643
@picassomarble5643 6 жыл бұрын
Jaaakkkkkeeeeee !!!!!!
@jaybrielz
@jaybrielz 6 жыл бұрын
IKR
@m.mproductions2461
@m.mproductions2461 6 жыл бұрын
*God has join the comments*
@dengmandang
@dengmandang 5 жыл бұрын
White cartoonist don’t know about the fades 😭😭😭😭😭
@sui11106
@sui11106 4 жыл бұрын
I t is impossible to successfully draw a Fade lol , they try :P
@BlueisNotaWarmColour
@BlueisNotaWarmColour 4 жыл бұрын
@@sui11106 the problem with fades is that cartoons usually revolve around simple line work and a fade juxtaposes that. It's certainly doable but in certain art styles it can look weird, hence the reliance on other styles.
@alvallac2171
@alvallac2171 4 жыл бұрын
*cartoonists
@apples4me14
@apples4me14 4 жыл бұрын
My friend said I should get a fade but I figured that hairstyle wouldn't suit me well cause I'm pale
@nobodynoone9043
@nobodynoone9043 4 жыл бұрын
@@apples4me14 nah, id say it'd still suit u. Here in Ireland nearly all white and black lads have skin fades
@darkdefender9919
@darkdefender9919 4 жыл бұрын
This dude just dunked on everyone who has ever said “It is just for tokenism” by saying “So you think white is the factory setting
@vanessapayero759
@vanessapayero759 5 жыл бұрын
My dad is a black Dominican. My mom is a white latina. On my 15th birthday he hugged me and he looked at us in the mirror. And as I was staring at our reflection he told me that I look nothing like him, and that made him happy. I looked at him, and he told me he was happy that I was born white, that being black was really hard and dangerous, and he wouldn't want that for me. I went upstairs and cried. I want nothing but to look more like my father.
@myhoodacademia8156
@myhoodacademia8156 5 жыл бұрын
Keep ya head up
@ktsp2538
@ktsp2538 5 жыл бұрын
I hope you are feeling better
@caracara300
@caracara300 5 жыл бұрын
I can relate
@caleviwin
@caleviwin 5 жыл бұрын
I can relate in way, my dads skin is this beautiful light tan that darkens in the sun...he never burns. I turn into a lobster though. But he always told me to love myself and love the people around me because hate creates more hate. Learn to love yourself and continue to love your father who cares very much for you, and your mother.
@Introvertsan
@Introvertsan 5 жыл бұрын
It's sad but knowing history you would know why your father thinks like this
@helmetjack
@helmetjack 6 жыл бұрын
It's crazy how innocent we are as kids. I never once thought of the racial implications when watching Static Shock or Little Bill. I just enjoyed the characters for who they are. Now you telling me people watched those shows and asked why they were a certain race? That's surprising as fuck to me
@66tobi66
@66tobi66 6 жыл бұрын
Sometimes people take things at face value, More times then needed now adays. Everyone forgets its not about who, Its about what.
@jonashartung3019
@jonashartung3019 6 жыл бұрын
I feel exaclty the same. Since Im from a small german town where there are like 5 black people, cartoons/characters like Fillmore never were "different" or had any racial implications. They just looked the way they looked and I dont think any of us kinds thought anything of it. Kinda feel like kids growing up today only see "color" and differences. :/
@kawaiielephant7772
@kawaiielephant7772 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I don't know what else to say.
@donutchan8114
@donutchan8114 6 жыл бұрын
It's super weird. Nothing is just a show, everything is a political statement even when it isnt, and it's gotten so out of hand it goes full circle back to whatever -ist is being targeted.
@Shadowrose54321
@Shadowrose54321 6 жыл бұрын
@Belletaina Just the after effect of America's past. The lack of care when presenting black people is clear. It's obvious why people now are making sure they aren't being duped now in the present moment. Cartoons sadly have been about race for a long time though. If you aren't black you probably wouldn't have noticed at all how much race was in cartoons. Think of Disney's propaganda films. It's actually WAY better now then it's ever been before. And it's because we can take it seriously. Being a cartoon doesn't negate that it can't be taken seriously. Real people make it.
@cykablyat5738
@cykablyat5738 5 жыл бұрын
I find it weird that some people can’t just accept that a characters black, it’s wierd, the characters just black leave it at that.
@StevenTLawson
@StevenTLawson 5 жыл бұрын
Cykä Blyät - Mizore it’s weird because a lot of times the CREATORS of the show make a big deal about having black characters. So if that’s a big deal that the characters are black it’s perfectly valid to question the characters skin color and what that means for the story And for some of the reductionist If someone makes a story with no Black Characters and they get people made about not having black people, then yes 100% inclusion of future black characters is literally pandering to make these people shut up
@cykablyat5738
@cykablyat5738 5 жыл бұрын
Steven Lawson it’s a huge problem, people act like you can’t have an all (insert skin color/race/ethnicity) cast anymore. It doesn’t mean there racist it may fit the theme of the story and where it’s located. It’s honestly stupid.
@cykablyat5738
@cykablyat5738 5 жыл бұрын
dead chicken yeah that’s the thing that gets me not everything is political
@BlueisNotaWarmColour
@BlueisNotaWarmColour 4 жыл бұрын
@@cykablyat5738 yeah, if a cast is all-black, that isn't diverse, it's all-black. That's not a bad thing at all but you get situations like people bitching about Friends, twenty years later, or complaining because the original Avengers are all-white when they were just modeled after the comics.
@cykablyat5738
@cykablyat5738 4 жыл бұрын
The Lukanator that’s true and that’s also a stigma that needs to change
@user-tu9ke2zo8b
@user-tu9ke2zo8b 3 жыл бұрын
When I was younger I didn’t really care to notice the sexuality’s and skin of the characters I just watched the show
@kimifw58
@kimifw58 3 жыл бұрын
Me neither, but seeing them in my shows helped humanize them for me.
@rosebud6116
@rosebud6116 3 жыл бұрын
It’s still for me now. Unless if I’m with family.. Then I gotta watch out for one of them
@Mannof1000Thoughts
@Mannof1000Thoughts 6 жыл бұрын
I had forgotten how poignant the segregation episode of proud family was. It still baffles me that Disney had it.
@ToonrificTariq
@ToonrificTariq 6 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly! (No pun intended. Okay, maybe a little.) I always loved how The Proud Family used its fantastical animated format to its advantage because they got that lesson across a lot better than most live action sitcoms, honestly.
@Mannof1000Thoughts
@Mannof1000Thoughts 6 жыл бұрын
ToonrificTariq Yeah. Proud Family was one of those gems that was more head of the curve than we remember.
@pattonramming1988
@pattonramming1988 6 жыл бұрын
I'm more baffled that it had an actual plot structure
@garfieif8187
@garfieif8187 6 жыл бұрын
Once a full moon, Disney shows balls and does something that could potentially garner complaints. Complaints from the right people to receive complaints from, of course, but complaints nonetheless.
@wanderingoryx3710
@wanderingoryx3710 6 жыл бұрын
Why should the day of absent across schools in America be tolerated in this day and age? Thats also racist.
@cheesecakelasagna
@cheesecakelasagna 5 жыл бұрын
And don't get me started on Asian representation. Clarification after 2 years: When I said Asian, I meant Asians other than Eastern.
@WillH888
@WillH888 5 жыл бұрын
tell me about it, american dragon & jackie chan adventures is all we got when i was a kid
@biochroma
@biochroma 5 жыл бұрын
@@WillH888 and Avatar the Last Airbender...
@WillH888
@WillH888 5 жыл бұрын
@@biochroma i was gonna say avatar too, and look at what shamalan did to that.
@biochroma
@biochroma 5 жыл бұрын
@@WillH888 haha u rite, but the animated series is probably my favorite of all time
@WillH888
@WillH888 5 жыл бұрын
@@biochroma one of the best if not the best cartoon ive seen for sure
@Charlift
@Charlift 4 жыл бұрын
“Black people don’t actually exist” -The people who think Craig of the Creek is pandering
@Charlift
@Charlift 3 жыл бұрын
@Shin Shaman i mean fair enough if that’s your opinion, i’ve never watched it
@Charlift
@Charlift 3 жыл бұрын
@Shin Shaman kindly go fuck yourself
@pretzeldragon2975
@pretzeldragon2975 3 жыл бұрын
@Shin Shaman this is a yikes if I've ever seen one
@MeganAllen1738
@MeganAllen1738 3 жыл бұрын
I saw someone say once that having black people in anime takes you out of the show because it's unrealistic 😂😂😂
@anthonyp2883
@anthonyp2883 3 жыл бұрын
@Shin Shaman nah it’s a pretty good show it’s better than anything else on Cartoon Network right now
@Andy-sv6fj
@Andy-sv6fj 2 жыл бұрын
I'm Latin American, and I just re-watched this video only to realize that it really changed my view and preconceived notions about a lot of things. I don't mean to take attention away from the focus of the video, which is black characters, but I've as well never truly felt identified by characters in media until recently, and this has inspired me to become a better writer, to make everyone feel included at least a little bit in the things I create. Thank you for that
@yesacnolastnamerequired9016
@yesacnolastnamerequired9016 5 жыл бұрын
so we gonna forget the fact that all the Indian characters are store managers or taxi drivers hell there is a movie coming out where the main Indian character's whole thing is that he is a taxi driver now if you excuse me Ima go fix someone's computer for I-Tunes gift cards
@Gamebuilder2000
@Gamebuilder2000 5 жыл бұрын
Baljeet, from Phineas and Ferb.
@Pooky1991
@Pooky1991 5 жыл бұрын
Sanjay and Craig and for a more positive example Connie from Steven Universe
@shadic187
@shadic187 5 жыл бұрын
Fuckin... Damn the dude from Deadpool... Can't fucking remember his name tho but that nigga a Taxi Driver.
@shadic187
@shadic187 5 жыл бұрын
@Ari Edits yeah nigga Dopinder!
@SytanOfficial
@SytanOfficial 5 жыл бұрын
@@shadic187 Yeah, cuz an Indian guy is a nigga, but if a white person called you a nigga, damnnn
@H3Vtux
@H3Vtux 6 жыл бұрын
Good video, you worded perfectly why I think cartoons from 1995-2008 era did such a good job with this. Cyborg, Jarold, AJ, they were all just good characters who happened to be black. I'd also like to throw in Green Lantern from Justice League.
@a-drewg1716
@a-drewg1716 6 жыл бұрын
because nowadays we have this random need to be diverse so they have to create black characters instead of characters who are black. It goes the same with every race, if a character becomes simply their race then it is a bad character that is obviously pandering to a certain group. Alot of this though is actually the marketing teams fault and not the creators but most of us get our initial view of something with its marketing and so that becomes the basis of our viewing as humans.
@Goleon
@Goleon 6 жыл бұрын
I was like "Uh where's John Stewart?".
@Goleon
@Goleon 6 жыл бұрын
A-DrewG - Need to create? John Stewart/Green Lantern is in DC comics. The JL/U character is based off a previous established character who yes was also in the armed forces in the comics.
@jeremyabbott4537
@jeremyabbott4537 6 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, the Green Lantern from the Justice League is the only version of the Green Lantern I actually enjoyed (and the first one I saw). I felt he was a nicely nuanced character and actually brought something to the table other than being another super hero with snarky one liners. Also Static Shock is pretty much my favorite DC super hero and was pissed when his cartoon got cancelled.
@tjsworld98
@tjsworld98 6 жыл бұрын
Don't sleep on aqualad from young justice.
@monadoboy8009
@monadoboy8009 4 жыл бұрын
How to write a black character: Write a character who's personality is unique but their culture is black. (Or their culture doesn't have to be black. Just them being a character but having black skin is perfect) How NOT to write a black character: Write a black character but who's personality is them being black. There's just constant in your face moments of them being black.
@fangsabre
@fangsabre 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly I think you got it right the first time there.
@_Koyomi_
@_Koyomi_ 4 жыл бұрын
So make him the opposite of Cleveland Brown
@monadoboy8009
@monadoboy8009 4 жыл бұрын
@@_Koyomi_ To be fair, Cleveland was a normal character before the new seasons and Cleveland Show flanderized his personality
@_Koyomi_
@_Koyomi_ 4 жыл бұрын
@@monadoboy8009 That's true. Nowadays he's just "the black friend", which they even say verbatim
@kfcnyancat
@kfcnyancat 3 жыл бұрын
>Or their culture doesn't have to be black. Just them being a character but having black skin is perfect This is important! Not all black people have a connection to "black culture!" (I know this because I'm one, and if you think that's a problem, congratulations you've adopted a fascist talking point)
@midnightthoughts8519
@midnightthoughts8519 4 жыл бұрын
I totally understand how you feel though. I'd definitely watch a show or flock to it if a main or supporting character was Native American. That's one of the reasons why I decided to watch the Miraculous Ladybug movie. It didn't help that the movie was decent. Kinda terrible for the repetitive plot though. The native girl did feel like an actual character. I loved her for her personality, not because we're the same race. It just so happened that we were. So... if a new show came out with a native american main or supporting character, I'd love it if the character isn't stereotypical where every single grandfather is suddenly a shaman or a wise future-teller with a basic mystical flute playing in the background everytime he's on screen. It'd be cool if they were written to be indigenous just to be indigenous, not for forced and ignorant representation. They could follow their culture if they wanted. They could be from any setting. The rez, the city, the suburbs. I lived in all three settings and I adapted to all three locations, even at public and boarding schools. I prefer boarding schools by the way. Much less scarier than public schools... shiver. Piper McClain from Heroes of Olympus isn't a good example by the way, no matter how much I love Rick Riordan and his books. Learn from his mistakes if you want good indigenous representation. Not all of us have rich and famous dads! I mean, seriously. Name one famous native american, one who isn't white and blonde and descended from a Cherokee princess. Back on track, Craig of the Creek is cool. I love that show. Not just because he's also brown, but because the show is actually really good. It feels real in a nostalgic sense but modern as well. The characters don't care that he's black. It would definitely change everything if Craig wasn't black considering his family dynamic being an almost accurate portrayal of a black family, but that's not my point. I don't have the writing capabilities to write out my thoughts about that.
@TheeSydneyK
@TheeSydneyK 4 жыл бұрын
Didn’t even know buddy from Ed edd and eddy was black 🙃
@sabrinamitchell4107
@sabrinamitchell4107 4 жыл бұрын
Same here
@HolyBiscuit69
@HolyBiscuit69 4 жыл бұрын
You didn't just refer to Johnny as Buddy.
@TheeSydneyK
@TheeSydneyK 4 жыл бұрын
HolyBiscuit 😂😂😂 I forgot his name. I didn’t wanna just address plank that’d be rude 😬
@enzomthethwa5861
@enzomthethwa5861 4 жыл бұрын
Me neither. Must be one light skinned dude.
@jrr7031
@jrr7031 4 жыл бұрын
Right fam!
@kawaiianimallover1237
@kawaiianimallover1237 5 жыл бұрын
My friend always tells me that I don't act black. And in my head I was like, what is that suppose to mean.
@onlyonemitch5049
@onlyonemitch5049 5 жыл бұрын
Just sing"Oooooooh I'm black yo!"
@corruptedteka
@corruptedteka 5 жыл бұрын
I have a black friend and am myself mixed, and he told me I dance like a white person. Even now I don't know what to think of that and how I should've replied to that.
@tannerlawley8435
@tannerlawley8435 5 жыл бұрын
kawaiianimallover 123 You don’t act like the black stereotype? That’s pretty obvious man. Still racist and insensitive, though.
@GhostDrewSenju
@GhostDrewSenju 5 жыл бұрын
Just ask him, what sound does a color make.
@johnwilliams983
@johnwilliams983 5 жыл бұрын
So you act white?
@bol8122
@bol8122 4 жыл бұрын
This is too true like I'm telling you there is no character I have related more to than miles morales
@fancyoil216
@fancyoil216 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like Miles is a character that everyone can relate to. I grew up in the suburbs with very little diversity (I’m white), but I can relate to his struggle with his parents and the way he couldn’t really make friends. He is honestly just a really good character from a really good movie.
@channel-re5uq
@channel-re5uq 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah like I still love him but hes way more modern relatable than Peter
@connorscorner443
@connorscorner443 4 жыл бұрын
Miles will always have a special place in my heart. Into the Spiderverse was the last film my dad and I saw in the cinema together. But thats not the only reason I love him. He's a great character who is hello relatable
@ReaperBlaze76
@ReaperBlaze76 2 жыл бұрын
@@channel-re5uq You're not just wrong, you're stupid too
@alexanderstilianov
@alexanderstilianov 3 жыл бұрын
9:21 Remember the time Fat Albert was on the Boondocks and almost got into a car crash with Riley?
@TheBersergner
@TheBersergner 4 жыл бұрын
"Because you think being White is the default." That was a poigniant line.
@MetaKnight964
@MetaKnight964 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know anyone who thinks that.
@TheBersergner
@TheBersergner 3 жыл бұрын
@@MetaKnight964 yes you do, you're just not aware of it.
@lzydaizies
@lzydaizies 3 жыл бұрын
@Shin Shaman why do u keep replying to stuff man do you have nothing to do
@inversion9651
@inversion9651 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing point.
@inversion9651
@inversion9651 3 жыл бұрын
Aren’t most people Asian so aren’t Asians default?
@krobuskoffee3354
@krobuskoffee3354 4 жыл бұрын
"hey lee you know how to pick a lock?" "well why would you say that kenny?" "i dunno.. y o u r e u r b a n"
@BlueisNotaWarmColour
@BlueisNotaWarmColour 4 жыл бұрын
I 'member that
@dr.vanilla9017
@dr.vanilla9017 4 жыл бұрын
Ends up picking the lock anyway.
@ameliaj8791
@ameliaj8791 4 жыл бұрын
fuck kenny
@SewageDumpster
@SewageDumpster 4 жыл бұрын
LMFAOOOOO
@quierrahmarshall5407
@quierrahmarshall5407 4 жыл бұрын
Bruh I remember that😂😑
@pinkpuff8562
@pinkpuff8562 5 жыл бұрын
How to Black Character. Treat them like a normal character, like a person. With their own goals, ideals, backstory, motivations, culture, experiences, hobbies, quirks, mindsets and perspectives to make them beliviable. The audience doesn’t have to agree with the character on what they think or what they do. They just have get it, the audience just have to understand the character to make them beliviable. And if you’re writing a character that has experienced something (for example racism), if you’ve experienced the same thing, you can make it seem more realistic by including details, thoughts and feelings about Said experience to make it seem more realistic and immersive to the Audience. It’s not impossible to write about something that you have no experience with, but it’s definentally harder. And this can be tied in with with black characters who’ve experienced some form of racism or are descendents of victims of racism or are a part of a community who experiences racism. But if you’re writing a black character who’ve never or barely experienced any for of racism (Maybe if they’re in a different world or something idk) then just write them like any other character. Because in the end, race doesn’t truly matter, but i may do if irl representation of black people is important to you as a writer or to the story you’re telling. But otherwise, just treat black characters as every other character. Because all characters deserve to be beliviable and understood. A good *character* doesn’t necessarily have to be a *good* character, And a bad *character* doesn’t necessarily have to be a *bad* character. You get the idea, now go make some good as character.
@Prod.by8lack
@Prod.by8lack 5 жыл бұрын
Facts
@alicewalker3600
@alicewalker3600 5 жыл бұрын
that actually makes a lot of sense, Well said
@bigbawlzlebowski8886
@bigbawlzlebowski8886 4 жыл бұрын
Black people don't have any of those characteristics that's liberal propaganda
@pinkpuff8562
@pinkpuff8562 4 жыл бұрын
@@bigbawlzlebowski8886 bruh, alright xD
@TwinkleMaddie
@TwinkleMaddie 28 күн бұрын
This is extremely helpful for me. I am writing a sci-fi magical girl story with a 16 year-old black girl as its main protagonist, but I'm not black, nor do I have the same life style or struggles that a black person would have. The protagonist doesn't exactly face any kind of discrimination or racism against her (again, I'm not black, so I feel like I have no rights to talk about it). Thanks!
@indecisive2insomniac610
@indecisive2insomniac610 2 жыл бұрын
When it comes to black female representation in animation, there are actually two in the show Rise of The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (or ROTTMNT). The show doesn't point out their skin color and instead focuses on their personalities. It's amazing. Their names are April O' Neil (Yes, THAT April.), and another character named Sunita who shows up later in the show. There are a few other characters who are also dark-skinned, but I thought that letting others know about the more untouched upon characters in media would take priority.
@eatatjoes6751
@eatatjoes6751 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Really, as a black woman in her mid-20's, thank you so much.
@ThriveAfterAbuse
@ThriveAfterAbuse 6 жыл бұрын
This is seriously one of the best videos I’ve ever seen. The amount of time, thought, and effort that went into this is beyond impressive. You are so insightful, articulate, and engaging; I could listen to you all day and would love to hear your thoughts on any topic.
@dtfasedemi
@dtfasedemi 6 жыл бұрын
I honestly couldn't agree more. Instantly liked and followed his page
@EpicthedogYT
@EpicthedogYT 6 жыл бұрын
You must not watch a lot of videos. This guy is alright but there are much better channels that do analysis videos out there.
@myinternetsucks24
@myinternetsucks24 6 жыл бұрын
@@EpicthedogYT Cool.
@EpicthedogYT
@EpicthedogYT 6 жыл бұрын
@@myinternetsucks24 .....
@caseys2698
@caseys2698 6 жыл бұрын
This popped up in my recommended and I couldn't be happier, this is one of the best KZbin videos I've ever watched. Subbed 😄
@SaviHow
@SaviHow 6 жыл бұрын
90% of all Black characters on TV are just the Main Character's best friends.
@SgtSupaman
@SgtSupaman 6 жыл бұрын
So what you're saying is, black folk are, literally, the best kind of friend anybody can have.
@Bradly105
@Bradly105 6 жыл бұрын
SgtSupaman yes, yes he is.
@Thaabuddha
@Thaabuddha 6 жыл бұрын
SgtSupaman also implying black peoples lifes arent interesting enough to be the main characters
@Yek_
@Yek_ 6 жыл бұрын
@@Thaabuddha So pretty much if you do or don't have black characters in a animated tv show theres a problem with it.
@Thaabuddha
@Thaabuddha 6 жыл бұрын
Yek i just think its the way you write the character dude.
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