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@rhemorigher7 жыл бұрын
Sassing ye olde narrator with not a care in the world.
@Not-Just-Cars6 жыл бұрын
What about the ancient Chinese pike and shot
@groundsgrounds30026 жыл бұрын
I've always been interested in the logistics of how armies were supplied in the field. Roman armies were well organised but how did Medieval Armies operate for long periods of time?
@anggi86996 жыл бұрын
Great video but the music is to loud.
@thatdodude14646 жыл бұрын
Kings and Generals should
@VT-mw2zb7 жыл бұрын
I once thought that these tactics were deceptively simple, and many people in idle conversations slam this or that King and General as "not being a genius" by using very simple tactics. However, now knowing more, there are 2 things why things are simple. The main reason, as Clausewitz put it: "In wars, the right things are simple, but even the simplest thing is difficult in war". First, any time you can put together any number of men and not having the group spontaneously collapse from ill-discipline, logistical problems, lack of supplies, diseases, etc ... can already be considered an achievement. Armies and bureaucracies spent an inordinate amount of time dealing with this and precisely this. Feeding and keeping a large number of men healthy in the days before canned food, refrigeration, modern transports, and knowledge of sanitation, was no easy task. Armies melted away without a single fight for this very reason. Second, observation and communication. Unlike in games when observation and communication are instant, IRL, these things are slow. Generals were most likely on top of some hill, squinting their eyes trying to decipher what the hell is going on. You can only communicate with your subunits by the means of riders and messengers. You might hear that your flank is about to collapse and decided to send a messenger to dispatch the reserve; but then when the reserve arrives your flank has already collapsed and now half your force is running away.
@KingsandGenerals7 жыл бұрын
That is a great comment! Indeed, when you think about it, even recruiting and keeping an army together was a big challenge. They had no census lists, no computers and no modern administrative power of the state to draft new recruits. And, yes, communication during the battle was, probably, a hell. So, keeping it simple was indeed a wise decision. :-)
@nesa11267 жыл бұрын
Nice comment, go up!
@gallowglass37647 жыл бұрын
Xuan Vinh To you are spot on. Your comment reminds me of an old PC game called Legion. Basically, you would set up your units, give them commands before the battle began, and then press "play" and hope for the best. I imagine war games looking like your description in the future.
@rocmsocem6 жыл бұрын
Xuan Vinh To that's why you lead from the front and make sure you have competent leaders in every portion of your army. Center, flanks, reserves, etc and make sure you have a few other competent men ready to take command incase you fall
@699CHIP6 жыл бұрын
GOOFY LUCK holy crap I remember that game. Good times
@stopandthink73597 жыл бұрын
1. Oblique order Create local superiority on one wing to break it faster and to create a possibility of attacking from multiple sides. Protect the weaker portion of the army by keeping it from the enemy as long as possible. 2. Concentrated center Create local superiority in the center to break it faster and to create a possibility of attacking from multiple sides. 3. Hidden flank Create local superiority on one wing to break it faster and to create a possibility of attacking from multiple sides. 4. Inverted wedge Protect the weaker portion of the army by giving it space to slowly retreat without breaking. Attack with superior forces on the flanks and encircle the enemy. 5. Crescent 6. Feigned retreat Keep retreating slowly in order to stretch and break the enemy forces to smaller chunks, attack them from multiple sides and defeat with local superiority. Grunwald Provoke the enemy to expose his flank and then attack it from multiple sides with local superiority. 7. Hit and run For missile units. Protect your forces from a stronger enemy by keeping them at a distance and slowly weakening the enemy from the distance. 8. Envelopment Create local superiority on one or both wings to attack from multiple sides. The general pattern here is to prevent the enemy from using his superiority and to attack in a manner that allows you to create local superiority (of quality or quantity) in one or in many places.
@KingsandGenerals7 жыл бұрын
You stopped and thought about it. :-)
@stopandthink73597 жыл бұрын
a bit
@chrisproost72907 жыл бұрын
+STOP and Think Lol yeah, me too, just a little... like the vid narrator, I may be all kinds of a mess when older but I will never forget my battlefield glories...
@marindraganov58973 жыл бұрын
Most of the above is also knows as: "Defeat in detail".
@ElBandito6 жыл бұрын
Nothing gets a nomadic warrior more excited than feigned retreat.
@KingsandGenerals6 жыл бұрын
It depends on the perspective, I guess. :-) Maybe, it was their enemies who initially got excited seeing the nomads retreating. :-)
@ardaaslan19235 жыл бұрын
@@KingsandGenerals they were indeed. Battle of Mohac was one of the last examples
@b..35434 жыл бұрын
@@KingsandGenerals it also becomes last thing to feel excited about for nomad's enemies, just before they die even before they understand how did they die
@johnkiks80244 жыл бұрын
Genghis Khan used Feigned Retreat to great effect in his battles. It was his favorite tactic. Of course as the Mongol empire expanded they adapted to new tactics and new weapons- they learned from their enemies... Yes Feigned Retreat was their favorite tactic early in their expansion..
@marindraganov58973 жыл бұрын
True, that is the way Normans won at Hastings.
@AcidTripOk7 жыл бұрын
"One day I will grow old and forget my wife's name, my credit card pin and the password to my favourite pornsite, but I'll still be able to talk about Romans for hours and hours" LOL I can identify with this 100%
@bassplayer88156 жыл бұрын
Are you Syd Barret
@jameschebahtah6 жыл бұрын
Acid Trip I was dying when he said that
@KingsandGenerals6 жыл бұрын
+James Chebahtah can't lie. :-)
@guilhermehx71595 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣👏🏻
@onlineenglish70655 жыл бұрын
Beautiful. Robert Graves, near the end, actually believed he was in Ancient Rome.
@patricks15605 жыл бұрын
The Romans had a trick, you kill my army I'll come back with a new, improved one.
@LazyCrazyGuy5 жыл бұрын
Yes and defeat their enemies with the same tactics that defeated their own previous army. Romans were really one of a kind. Adopted strategies quickly and always employed them better than even the creators of said tactics could ever do.
@ottovonmlgbismarck98825 жыл бұрын
@@LazyCrazyGuy what ever happened to the italians. Was napoleon the last hereditary italian competant general?
@jomcabanilla37325 жыл бұрын
@@ottovonmlgbismarck9882 i would like to know more about that too
@Huczek1415 жыл бұрын
@@ottovonmlgbismarck9882 Napoleon was Italian? Ok... Cezare Borgia was a very skilled general.
@sohanmufti60005 жыл бұрын
@@Huczek141 Napoleon was from Corsica. He may well have some Italian blood in him.
@mynamesvlad7 жыл бұрын
Using triple axis in Rome 2. The next thing you hear is "our troops are running the field of battle, this is a shameful display"
@KingsandGenerals7 жыл бұрын
Yep, unfortunately, for all of its good things, TW sometimes fails to represent the tactics of the past. Then again, they tried to create a symmetrical experience so every faction would be equal.
@sjakierulez7 жыл бұрын
That's 1 of the things I like about TW:Warhammer, some factions play alike but some are so different.
@borispavlov68917 жыл бұрын
Actually ive made triple axies work in rtw2 before sure the broke down into more of a square at some point but hey its that originale cohesion beuty were after.
@RiftZM6 жыл бұрын
Lol. A lot of tactics and strategies fail to work in TW, aside from envelopment or Hammer and Anvil.
@shahlajafri73346 жыл бұрын
vlad Too true!
@mansoorr68uvxeg166 жыл бұрын
97% of the viewers came from the total war series
@KingsandGenerals6 жыл бұрын
Possibly. :-)
@ankurh61005 жыл бұрын
exactly
@deivytrajan5 жыл бұрын
I came from age of empires 3 ;)
@rachelloismontemarguerrero46555 жыл бұрын
True
@redwinterv1125 жыл бұрын
I came from medieval 2 lol we're the only people left using these tactics
@ahmed-F54628 күн бұрын
and from here the greatest history channel on youtube has born
@mohamadyassar1826 Жыл бұрын
Wow , Beginning of an era on youtube!!!😀😀😀
@fyoloswaggins52037 жыл бұрын
For 2000 years from Scythians to Ottomans, "Feigned flight" dominated the open battlefields so that would be my choice.
@KingsandGenerals7 жыл бұрын
If you have mobility and lack numbers, it is a way to go.
@szarekhthesilent20477 жыл бұрын
Actually.. no. not if your enemy is using combined arms (without making grave errors...), or has overwhelming firepower or superior range... + there's always siege...
@CookieGamerss7 жыл бұрын
Joe Blow Turks in general used the hilal/Wolf Trap tactic,Its the best tactic if you are in an open field,If you are in a siege etc its useless, and FUN FACT;Ancient turks learned and improved this tactic via observing wolf packs hunt. One of many battles that this was used was manzikert
@Aewon847 жыл бұрын
Personally, I wouldn't fall for that. If I were a commander I would as a rule never chase retreating enemies. Not even if it's a rout.
@CookieGamerss7 жыл бұрын
Roderic Kingfield Here is the thing,usually when this tactic was used a lot of soldiers got hyped and disobeyed orders and chased the turks then got right in to a trap,Even if your army is really diciplened there is going to be some soldiers that always got adrenaline rush
@pancapana01905 жыл бұрын
Current war tactic: the one who press button first is the winner
@احمدفتحى-خ6ي1غ4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@EokaBeamer694 жыл бұрын
It doesnt even work that way because of submarines :D
@abc65684 жыл бұрын
Whoever has a button loses
@franciscoguerrero97194 жыл бұрын
Column formation, wedge formation, staggered column, shift fire, bounding. Modern tactics are just as interesting/cool as the ancient stuff.
@mansur1413t4 жыл бұрын
@@franciscoguerrero9719 any channel you would suggest with modern war tactics content?
@icantthinkofaname940b27 жыл бұрын
Thanks for these videos. You do a fantastic job of hitting the main point without overwhelming the viewer. Keep up the good work.
@KingsandGenerals7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your support. I hate verbosity and tautology. :-)
@jimzimmer20485 жыл бұрын
Kings and Generals thx for giving noobs tactics now
@AlvorReal7 жыл бұрын
This was both entertaining and informative. Thank you.
@KingsandGenerals7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching :-)
@speggeri907 жыл бұрын
Where is corner camping? down vote for historical inaccuracy
@KingsandGenerals7 жыл бұрын
I think that we have finally found a person who didn't suffer enough from the corner camping :-)
@quantumimmortality5516 жыл бұрын
Corner camping? Call up the archers and siege equipment
@Broken-Flesh6 жыл бұрын
@@quantumimmortality551 spam war dogs.
@Fyrebrand185 жыл бұрын
@@quantumimmortality551 ah yes. Nothing like bunker busting.
@violetbrown67124 жыл бұрын
OUR GENERAL IS UNDER ATTACK
@davea997 жыл бұрын
Hammer and anvil?
@KingsandGenerals7 жыл бұрын
Yep, also very effective.
@MrGoncalobraz7 жыл бұрын
Just a variation of envelopment really.
@Keyhan-c8c7 жыл бұрын
Number 7 was The smartes and seencitiv tactic, thats why they had suck greate territorium 😣
@RiftZM6 жыл бұрын
+Joe Blow Hammer and Anvil *IS* a form of envelopment. The mechanics are identical, except you hit them in the rear instead of the sides. _"According to the United States Army there exist four types of envelopment:_ _A flanking maneuver or single envelopment consists of one enveloping force on a flank. attacking one of the enemy's flanks. This is extremely effective if the holding forces are in a well defensible spot (e.g. Alexander the Great's hammer and anvil at the Battle of Issus) or if there is a strong, hidden line behind a weak flank (e.g. Battle of Breitenfeld (1631) and Battle of Rocroi)._ _A pincer movement or double envelopment consists of two simultaneous flanking maneuvers. Hannibal devised this strategy at his tactical masterpiece, Cannae. Later on, Rashidun Caliphate General, Khalid ibn al-Walid applied the maneuver in decisive battle against Sassanid Empire during Battle of Walaja. Early in World War II the Germans frequently employed this tactic and encircled huge numbers of the enemy during the Blitzkrieg attacks on both the Western Front during the Battle of France and during Operation Barbarossa on the Eastern Front._ _An encirclement whereby the enemy is completely surrounded and isolated in a pocket. The friendly forces can choose to attack the pocket or invest it (to stop resupplies and to prevent breakouts) and wait for a beleaguered enemy to surrender._ _A vertical envelopment is "a tactical maneuver in which troops, either air-dropped or air-landed, attack the rear and flanks of a force, in effect cutting off or encircling the force"._ [ en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Envelopment ]
@ruskibeaner59836 жыл бұрын
Hammer and anvil is over all strategy, which deals with stuff outside of the battle field
@GymShu695 жыл бұрын
I could listen to this stuff non stop - please make a whole never ending series on battle tactics and examples. awesome job!
@historiankid86583 жыл бұрын
At 2017,a legend was born.
@beezybuzyfamily4 жыл бұрын
0:00 legend is born
@debrickashaw93873 жыл бұрын
To not have a massive route take place when employing the inverted wedge when the center got hammered is insane. Hannibal was an outstanding leader of men and general
@crmesson22k7 жыл бұрын
you should use each tactic in a battle against a friend or computer and make a video out of that.
@KingsandGenerals7 жыл бұрын
Yes, that is the plan, thanks for your support :-)
@auto27user7 жыл бұрын
no.9 Scottish pikes... pike box being a legit strategy confirmed(against cavalry anyway)?
@KingsandGenerals7 жыл бұрын
+auto27user yeah, it worked, unless enemy has advantage in missile units.
@Cancoillotteman7 жыл бұрын
the double envelopment at least is the most basic and efficient strategy against a computer, works as long as your center doesn't break. It also requires some patience because it's best to wait until your ennemy's out of amunitions to pull it off, unless you want to be shot in the back. I'd say against humans the most efficient is to hide some troops, but timing is crucial there ! Especially since players have an aerial vue of the battlefield, which Generals did not have back then. great work by the way, I discovered your videos two days ago and am currently binge watching them ! :)
@clinthazzard73976 жыл бұрын
moar werk?
@Chungus581 Жыл бұрын
Just realized I was here at the start of your channel! Good job guys!! All the way at 3 million subs I remember watching this and the Sassanian war video. Cool I found y’all from a total war video
@nanyafahkinbiznes13525 жыл бұрын
"Hit n run tactic with Missile cavalry" Just hearing those words... *Tired foot soldiers sounds intensifies
@hannibalburgers4774 жыл бұрын
I know right? From Crassus to Romen Diogenes, why would anyone want to face missile cavalry with infantry? Edit: If anybody know actually how to win against horce archers I would happily listen. I play barbarian invasion and keep loosing to huns
@gabrielnugrahaandika15193 жыл бұрын
@@hannibalburgers477 large onagers says hello
@hannibalburgers4773 жыл бұрын
@@gabrielnugrahaandika1519 Sorry I forgot to specify R:TW 1 BI
@jimberglund69793 жыл бұрын
*testudo formationing until those freaking horse archers run out of ammo intensifies*
@a.morphous663 жыл бұрын
*laughs in Frankish*
@infidelheretic9233 жыл бұрын
Simple ideas conveyed with useful diagrams and historic examples. Great video.
@xyon90906 жыл бұрын
*Hannibal's Inverted Wedge at Cannae in #4* is my favorite one.
@marindraganov58973 жыл бұрын
Funny fact: Shaka Zulu {also known as the African Napoleon} used the same tactic and called it the bull horn tactic.
@surendarav84063 жыл бұрын
Hannibal's strategy is many times more intelligent than what is given above. It is mobile strategy combined with skill, leadership, planning, alertness and situation awareness
@Dr.CaveCurinas5 жыл бұрын
Huh, it's funny how many of these tactics I've accidentally found myself using across the Total War games. A favorite tactic of mine in Shogun 2 was a mix of feigned retreat, hidden flank, and envelopment. I made a main line of yari wall with fire bomb throwers on one flank to bait out an agressive charge from an enemy against a short-range unit that is relatively weak in melee. If possible, I'd hide a unit of no-dachi samurai (shock troops with incredibly powerful charges, in case you haven't played it) nearby. When the enemy got close, the throwers would launch one volley of fire bombs, causing enough chaos in the enemy charge for me to pull the throwers back and charge with my shock troops while the enemy was still disoriented and out of position because of the bombs. This would cause even the most elite unit to rout, at which point I would use my shock troops to charge the nearest enemy unit engaging my spear wall, surrounding and breaking them, causing a routing cascade as I envelop the enemy. It was always so satisfying to pull off.
@andrewpowell8940 Жыл бұрын
I think Oblique Order is very intuitive in Total War as well.
@AmrodOfDale7 жыл бұрын
Love that self-reflection that after forgetting everything, you will not forget about Roman strategy, particularly Triplex Acies. I feel that I'll one day be in a similar situation and be that crazy old grandpa that talks about ancient battles whilst forgetting his email password XD
@KingsandGenerals7 жыл бұрын
It is good to be a bit ironic about oneself. :-)
@Skare755 жыл бұрын
I'm just here after seeing the 'tactics' displayed in GoT
@kenncrane41795 жыл бұрын
Ruined the entire show tbh
@Mustis915 жыл бұрын
same
@jimzimmer20485 жыл бұрын
Fuck off it’s better tactics than canne
@LeChevalierduLys5 жыл бұрын
LOL “Tactics”, that’s generous.
@gab94335 жыл бұрын
GoT? Game of thrones?
@sXe4life7 жыл бұрын
Would've loved to see Barca's reaction at the sight of his elephant units being annihilated. At that moment, I'd probably start thinking 'cntrl, alt, del'. Awesome video and narration.
@KingsandGenerals7 жыл бұрын
Thank you! :-)
@jayolson85246 жыл бұрын
i played the total war games for years, developing many of these tactics on my own through trial and error. now i finally know what they're called! thankyou!
@KingsandGenerals6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! We are slowly making more detailed videos on each of them. Here is one on the oblique order: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4mnenmbmJWJedE
@cogithefool42845 жыл бұрын
There is no more glorious thing as Scipio pulled a Hannibal on Hannibal.
@Bullet-Tooth-Tony-5 жыл бұрын
Zama was perfect, Scipio defeated a veteran army as well
@Doomxeen5 жыл бұрын
Hannibal crushing army after army without securing a decisive overall victory forced an odd case of artificial selection which created some of the best generals of all time.
@Bullet-Tooth-Tony-4 жыл бұрын
@@josecipriano3048 True, best upset ever.
@naiad50433 жыл бұрын
@@Bullet-Tooth-Tony- veteran??
@Bullet-Tooth-Tony-3 жыл бұрын
@@naiad5043 Hannibal had more hardened troops than Scipio
@viswanathan196 жыл бұрын
With the animated presentation the Hard work done enables the mind to grab content and green thank you thank you
@KingsandGenerals6 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@arielquelme5 жыл бұрын
my favorite one is have you ever heard Battle of Walaja? its one of Khalid ibn Walid most stunning victory... its perfect double envelopment maneuver are lead general A.I. Akram to likened the brilliance of Khalid to Hannibal in battle of Cannae
@anirudh1773 жыл бұрын
@david edbrooke-coffin Alexander the Great Sargon of Akkad Ashoka the Great
@anirudh1773 жыл бұрын
the other 3
@anirudh1773 жыл бұрын
@david edbrooke-coffin He's like the only person, who got the title 'the Great' because of his pacifism.
@ali631413 жыл бұрын
Yes 😍😍
@gamernerd64232 жыл бұрын
I play games a lot with my friends and came looking for some strategies that generals used in the past because im my team's strategist. I found everything i wanted and a man with a sense of humor, noice.
@Splodge5427 жыл бұрын
Roman and Greek and Hannibal's tactics are my favourites. Haven't used concentrated centre yet in Rome 2 TW. I could watch a long video about any of these. Let's hear about artillery, and light infantry too.
@KingsandGenerals7 жыл бұрын
We will make one eventually. Tactics and army evolution should become our secondary series, whenever we finally get our act together. :-)
@tommyliu77816 жыл бұрын
RoginauldsWarFiles ipppppp is the day
@KegAndKrow7 жыл бұрын
Love this video guys. I would love to see other battle strategies used or battles done in a campaign by a single figure, such as Alexander the Great or Hannibal
@KingsandGenerals7 жыл бұрын
Good idea, will do, thanks!
@RexGalilae7 жыл бұрын
Basement Entertainment We also need more Khalid bin Walid. He's the most underrated of all the generals
@mikemcfarthing34994 жыл бұрын
Spasibo! This is a great video. Love the comment about Triplex Acles...hours and hours.
@davidthor44053 ай бұрын
I think it’s cool how many of these tactics are built around either envelopment or avoiding envelopment. Really shows the importance of keeping the flanks safe
@kommissarantilus37426 жыл бұрын
I'm in love with the feigned retreat, even because it might happen spontaneously like it happened to William the Bastard with his left flank led by the bretonnians in the battle for England
@KingsandGenerals6 жыл бұрын
We will cover it in more detail in future :-)
@brandysmith39773 жыл бұрын
I believe it happened more than once at Hastings, the first one being an actual retreat by William's left, and then a feigned retreat was ordered after the response of the English to the actual retreat had been observed.
@Pooknottin5 жыл бұрын
I've often used an oblique line in tabletop and it's surprising how many opponents fall for it. Thanks for the vid.
@torva3605 жыл бұрын
"This video has gone on too long." I watched a 22 minutes Kings and Generals video about the Jewish rebellion in the Roman empire this morning. Hindsight is a funny thing.
@KingsandGenerals5 жыл бұрын
Yep, 20/20
@torva3605 жыл бұрын
@@KingsandGenerals If you keep replying to my comments, I'm going to start to think I'm special haha
@KingsandGenerals5 жыл бұрын
Keep 'em clean and I will do my best
@user-zp5ql2xi2s Жыл бұрын
Thank to whatever supreme being that gives us KingsandGenerals & Total War Series.
@godzilladude12317 жыл бұрын
U know who else were masters of hit and run and feigned retreats? The Mongols (cue the mongoltage) Ill like to any who gets the reference.
@FearTalamh6 жыл бұрын
John Constantine Sam O'Nella obviously
@sebastianhartung44076 жыл бұрын
John Green ftw
@parthiancapitalist27336 жыл бұрын
Also Vietnam
@johnson87116 жыл бұрын
Hahhahahahaha
@cogithefool42845 жыл бұрын
Mongols were the best, but what the Parthians did to Crassus and his army was unspeakable for the Romans.
@colambu29194 жыл бұрын
And by this video, a legendary channel was born
@teukuriza47487 жыл бұрын
I remember playing as ottomans in mediavel 2 where during a crusader invasion the very elite, equiped with silver grade armor and weapons, led by a high starred prince of France. While I only have a mediocre Turkish horse archers, I wanted to use like how the Roman fell with horse archer but the discipline was intact until I killed the prince & all discipline completely fell. Pretty much capture all the army
@thx1138thecrane5 жыл бұрын
Hannibal's Bent Bow of Cannae. Masterly done, the man even put himself at the center of his army, Hannibal truly is the greatest general mankind ever produced, I know he may not like it, but Mars truly shined on him.
@temijinkahn5113 жыл бұрын
Oblique order is my favorite wargaming tactic by far. Many times my opponents will spread their forces across the battlefield. My goal is to have 70% of my army overrun one enemy flank then wheel towards his center and roll up his line. As he turns to face his failing flank, his opposite flank units are too far away to get into the battle in time and typically come in piecemeal allowing me to slaughter them. I will many times sacrifice light units on his far flank and center to delay those heavier units. When I face someone who is using Oblique order and I have not, I will turn and march my flank facing his strong flank towards my center rear while rapidly advancing my opposite flank driving off his lighter screening units. This will wheel my battle line 90 degrees. For example, if my battle line was stretching east west facing the enemy it ends up stretching north south and facing the enemy. Sacrificing one or two units to delay his strong flank can buy you needed time to reorganize your battle line. The faster you identify your opponents formation the better as you have more time to reposition your forces. Scouting concealing terrain features is of critical importance. You need to know what is behind those hills and in those woods!
@Iraqi_baathist2009 Жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who came to watch this video to know how the best KZbinr started
@alman298123 жыл бұрын
Pov: you clicked "oldest first"
@angusyang59173 жыл бұрын
For some reason it got recommended to me. It's not the oldest video they ever produced, but it's certainly the oldest video available on their channel for viewing.
@AnhTrieu907 жыл бұрын
Forget wife's name but can talk about Triplex Acies for hours. I like this guy already!
@KingsandGenerals7 жыл бұрын
:-)
@yw56175 жыл бұрын
Thank you, finding stuff this dense and high quality about military tactics is hard, probably because it's not much more useful than regular history, at least those are fun to try in games.
@teenaratnakar70224 жыл бұрын
I was looking this for gaming, and the tactics are wonderful. Keep posting more
@maxlu93737 жыл бұрын
Hammer and anvil is one of the greatest and simplest attack strategies to exist. Should’ve been on here
@KingsandGenerals7 жыл бұрын
I think we showed the variants of it.
@saintlunaticv36026 жыл бұрын
I've played many of the total war games over the years offline for fun. I love watching the history channel program that brings to life the tactics of famous ancient Eurasian battles. About 5 years ago I started plaing the #1 online game globaly, World of Tanks on XBox. I'm currently floating around top 5% in the world month to month and rated top 350 in the world over the last couple weeks. Most of the above average players know how to operate their tanks as well as me or anyone else at my level. The armies Alaxander "The Great" faced were just as leathal as his, some, more so. But a race car is only as competitive as the skill of the driver. It's my opinion that most important trait of any General, or maybe more importantly, Captain is that commanders sense of timing. I know many are going to scoff at me comparing a real life or death struggle to a video game. But, in never ceases to amaze me how a few great players can take on and defeat forces several times larger. Watching the first evolution of the oblique order tactic, my jaw dropped in astonishment. In WOT, what usually happens is the largest portion of the team attacks together in what they call a "lemming train". If that happens, smart players will position theirselves between either left or right rear flank. I'll seak out the enemy and try to bait them into attacking me, as I make tactical retreat toward the rear of the bulk of my team. Wow! Your video has convinced me to take serious look at ancient battlefield tactics for use in game. Well done sir. (subscribing today!)
@KingsandGenerals6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub and welcome aboard :-) We are going to continue creating videos in this vein. Also, congrats on being so good in the World of Tanks. We need to create some videos in that era, I guess. :-)
@courtlycard65565 жыл бұрын
Go outside
@mrKreuzfeld7 жыл бұрын
Only missing the echelon/ refused flank. Gualgamella is a version of this
@KingsandGenerals7 жыл бұрын
Good one! That is why I have this love/hate relationship with the "top-10" videos. :-)
@mrKreuzfeld7 жыл бұрын
stuka80 yeah! I know :) then mentioned it twice, but didnt mention the echelon. It is such an important tactics, so it definitely deserves a mention :)
@janscheffers62012 жыл бұрын
1.The battle of Marathon / The battle of Salamis 2 The battle of the Delta 3 The battle of Kadesh Greetings Jan
@matthewkuchinski17697 жыл бұрын
Great video. I really liked how you presented the schiltron. I was wondering if you did consider the combined-arms-approach that was favored by the English during the Hundred Years War. After all, the strategy of combining the firepower of archers with the staying power of melee infantry and the shock element of cavalry was one of the most important tactical options for Classical and Medieval armies when on the defensive.
@KingsandGenerals7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Again, a very good point. Combined arms did not make the top 10, in my opinion. Maybe, I need to make a second list. :-)
@SantomPh7 жыл бұрын
the issue with the 100 Years war and the combined arms approach....is that the English lost!
@matthewkuchinski17697 жыл бұрын
I do acknowledge that the English lost the Hundred Years' War, but what I am talking about, with the example of the English forces, was the fact that the combined-arms approach is one of the most common in history. Other great examples are Alexander the Great's army, the Late Roman Empire Legions, and even the Norman forces commanded by William I of England.
@KingsandGenerals7 жыл бұрын
+Matthew Kuchinski as Nurrrik always tells me, don't be result-oriented, it is about doing it right. :-)
@ronaldp75737 жыл бұрын
very well done video. And really these are timeless tactics. The oblique order served Friedrick and his beloved Prussia well. And we was said to have been inspired by the very battle you mentioned.
@KingsandGenerals7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. I really like the fact that gunpowder era generals were so fond of ancient tactics. Obviously, ancient generals did not have gunpowder units or artillery, but it is more about ingenuity than anything else. :-) I am planning a documentary on the Seven Years War. It should be released sometime in August, so, stick around. :-)
@parthiancapitalist27336 жыл бұрын
Tactic in theory: use units to engage the enemy, and spread out to separate the enemy units until the enemy is spread very thin. After this use reserves to overwhelm one side and move the active troops to the other side to do the same Could this work in practice?
@captaincrary5 жыл бұрын
Parthian Capitalist you would need a well organized and disciplined army along with more men than the enemy in order for this to work but other than that I like it.
5 жыл бұрын
The key thing in a battle is knowing your enemies strength and your enemies plan. That means you need spies in the enemy camp or very good scouts. Also, always take up positions that use the features of the landscape to your advantage.
@tonyc2773 Жыл бұрын
So glad you're still here. 😁
@KingsandGenerals Жыл бұрын
;-)
@charlesburrows6876 жыл бұрын
Loved the video. Subscribed immediately after hearing about growing old and what you would or wouldn't remember :p
@KingsandGenerals6 жыл бұрын
:-)
@alejandrodlacierte7378 ай бұрын
And here I am, applying these tactics in Bannerlord battles.
@gareththompson27087 жыл бұрын
I'll always be a fan of the good old hammer and anvil. Fix 'em in place with infantry, and crush them with a cavalry charge to the rear.
@KingsandGenerals7 жыл бұрын
Yes, it works. :-)
@chrisproost72907 жыл бұрын
That's your basic Marlburian 'find, fix and destroy'... only he could use it flawlessly as base for or to react to anything else (Blenheim, Ramillies) or as a finisher to a successful catch up from behind (Oudenarde) as on it's own it can turn into a game of attrition (Malplaquet) Shame that the all round outstanding British commander in history (with Wellington close behind) did his thing so long ago.
@fcalvaresi6 жыл бұрын
That one historical tactics that does not fail you in Total War games :-)
@maxmagnus7777 жыл бұрын
Love the video, I would like to see more on the roman tactics, training and maneuvers that gave them the edge.
@KingsandGenerals7 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Will need to come up with a new format.
@matthewsmith17796 жыл бұрын
Hannibal actually had the least experienced troops in the center. At least during the "Battle of Cannae". He fought in the center with them to assure them their lives weren't being forfeit. Basically saying "I'm here with you. Do not retreat. Bend but do not break. You job is to give not be over run."
@swaminathanbalakrishnan51825 жыл бұрын
I suggest that you could remake this video. Your later videos have been of great quality, and I think a remake of this would turn out very well.
@davidedbrooke93247 жыл бұрын
Excellent, very good.
@KingsandGenerals7 жыл бұрын
Glad, you enjoyed it. :-)
@morimemento83517 жыл бұрын
more tactical breakdowns, awesome uploads...no dramatic background music needed in my opinion
@KingsandGenerals7 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@jerrylitthachack14645 жыл бұрын
Got s8 e3 should have watched this video
@b..35434 жыл бұрын
They also should've watched it before 6.9, Battle of Bastards. Wait, maybe Ramsey watched it... OMG someone tell John to stay away, it's a trap ! Lol
@stareSimulVelCadere6 ай бұрын
Need to find a board game that uses these tactics in-game and is fun.
@Luredreier6 жыл бұрын
Loved this video. =)
@KingsandGenerals6 жыл бұрын
Working on the next ones. :-)
@Luredreier6 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that. =) I'm looking forward to them. ^^
@tomaszkrol56023 жыл бұрын
Hannibal was a genius but so was Scipio! Great vid, pls more!
@danielkover71576 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, very informative. Just one thing, though. It's difficult to understand what the narrator is saying in some portions of the video due to the volume of the music. I couldn't understand the last sentence in one section (I think it was the Hit and Run section) because of this. Maybe dial it back a bit? Otherwise, good work. ☺
@KingsandGenerals6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! We have improved quite a bit since then, and each of the tactics described in this videos will be covered separately, in detail. We have released the first video in this series: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4mnenmbmJWJedE
@StrongFreeLovin3 жыл бұрын
What do you mean it's already too long? That's what we're here for!
@andreascj736 жыл бұрын
I just love your accent. So cool!
@KingsandGenerals6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! That is the first. :-)
@efebguney2 жыл бұрын
I mostly loved the Single/Double Envelopment tactic. Amazing video!
@hdckdsadd3 жыл бұрын
"this video is already too long"". 2020: 2 hour long videos :)
@monkeyman3213 жыл бұрын
I'm a fan of K&G since it was called Nurrik & Phoenix. It's nice to watch the first videos with Phoenix's narration once in a while. So bad the Total War series is not available anymore.
@sml84125 жыл бұрын
"This video is already too long" indeed youtube tends to like10 mins.
@bigezra07433 жыл бұрын
Thanks, we are doing a minecraft war tomorrow, this will defnitely help XD I will most likely used the inverted wedge with a mix of hit and run
@Dakka19687 жыл бұрын
I like to charge part of infantry line a fraction before the rest and i ride my general and 1 other shock cavalry unit out through the centre with other cavalry manouevers on either flank (support with a unit of spears as your cavalary is split up x3). It takes alot of micromanagement but really effective for me in legendary and multplayer total war
@KingsandGenerals7 жыл бұрын
+Dakka1968 that is a great tactic! Philip and Alexander used elite infantry the same way
@crmesson22k7 жыл бұрын
yes please produce more on this please. great video.
@danielletuyak39672 жыл бұрын
My imagination is insane..
@aikalahamjie70794 жыл бұрын
So this is what K&G looks like 3 years ago...the narrator is also different. I could say K&G had improve so much, especially the animation. Nice
@mafia_gamer_official309732 жыл бұрын
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@abobbins5 жыл бұрын
i play a game called Overwatch. A 6v6 team shooter. It's a miracle if you can even keep all 6 team members in support range of each other without odd people going off on mad flanks or trying to 1v6 the enemy team. Definitely made me realise just how little general population knows about super basic military tactics. Great kudos to all these generals managing thousands of troops like well oiled machines.
@mangodale.bingleman2 жыл бұрын
I prepared to fail art school
@jo_shuh2 жыл бұрын
The tactics assume that the opponent is clueless about tactics. But if the opponent has good defense and well informed about tactics all that matters is numbers. The more things change the more they remain the same.
@paxwallacejazz7 жыл бұрын
Ok mounted archer cavalry. Also, almost all these strategies employ yielding before attacking. Very Taoist and tricky.
@KingsandGenerals7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, never give your enemy a good target. :-)
@erdemsahin64845 жыл бұрын
4:19 is used BC 200s-AC 1900s with modern equipments. 1919-1922 wars in Turkey was an example. (Very efficient against greeks still, it doesn't matter with horse or tank or aircrafts)
@docbailey32656 жыл бұрын
Punching the center didn’t work too well at Cannae.
@KingsandGenerals6 жыл бұрын
I'd say, the Romans had more elite troops overall.
@victrix80865 жыл бұрын
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@ericolsen55924 жыл бұрын
I'm a big believer in "shock and awe". Trebuchets and ballistas can soften enemy formations from great distances. War chariots can mount multiple archers on one platform. I would have archers flanking from directly behind, using tree cover to hit enemies in the open. A "berserker" team could also be sent long distances to surprise the enemy far from the front and cause chaos. War elephants would be easy to counter with incendiary pigs. I also appreciate the tactic of burning down a forest behind the enemy formations and tricking them into a feigned retreat, the location they want to do that happens to be really hot.
@ironknightgaming57062 жыл бұрын
so this is his voice lol
@JohnDoe-nr7iq2 ай бұрын
Whats wrong with his voice like bro whats so funny
@keventhechosenone.55439 ай бұрын
I am about to enter some war games so thank you. My crusaders wont fail because of you.
@alexmickanderable5 жыл бұрын
Best voice for this video, i swear!
@joesphistalin28007 жыл бұрын
Last.
@KingsandGenerals7 жыл бұрын
Hopefully, not :-)
@chrisproost72907 жыл бұрын
I agree, surely a Mongolian Prince could never be last, even if ever wrongfooted... so many (including the likes of Nathan Bedford Forrest) owe the idea of 'gittin' thar fustest with the mostest' to Mongolian endeavours and glory. Just be careful around Mamluks ok?
@tommyliu77816 жыл бұрын
Young Mongolian Prince i
@diarradunlap93376 жыл бұрын
The Mongols might well have trounced the Mamluks if most of the Mongol force hadn't gone home with the Ilkhan Hulagu to participate in the election of a new Khakhan after Mongke's death
@blingwraith69516 жыл бұрын
Don't worry, I'm sure someone will kill your envoy.
@Aufenthalt7 жыл бұрын
I'd like to add the sawtooth formation used from Svetonius polinus against the British tribes at the battle of Watling streets.
@KingsandGenerals7 жыл бұрын
I actually haven't read about this battle. I know about it, I know the background, but not the tactics used here. Wierd. :-)
@boudaakaranis86087 жыл бұрын
a fellow roman eagle !!! none army is better then the roman army !
@KingsandGenerals7 жыл бұрын
Go Roman or go home! :-)
@Isaiflamand7 жыл бұрын
Carthage army was almost equal as roman legions but when Hannibal won at Cannae, he didn’t seiz that chance to destroy the roman republic, instead He and his army celebrate their victory
@niteshmurti6 жыл бұрын
boudaakar anis I think u forget 'Murica
@alsoubani85356 жыл бұрын
I don’t know but the mongols and rashidun armies were not bad at all especially how fast they moved
@ian67966 жыл бұрын
Isaiflamand kwetcalo He didn't have any chance, he couldn't lay siege to a walled city without any siege weapons, also rome was defenceless after cannae, they still have two legions inside the city
@ashina21467 жыл бұрын
8.Single or Double Envelopment This is one of my favorite in Shogun 2,and sometimes I used this without knowing in Rome 2. I always has a Flank Defender,and Flank Attacker Units,and sometimes these 2 Units works together,and able to defeat the Enemy Flanks,and then the Flanking attacks begin,till it's more of a Rolling of units on both side.
@KingsandGenerals7 жыл бұрын
Yep, that is a good one. At Gaugamela, Alexander placed spearmen behind his cavalry. Similar to your idea of "Flank defender-flank attacker".