Lurrus in Vintage was truly insane before the companion errata. Black Lotus is already an insane card, but with Lurrus you could sac the Lotus to play Lurrus and immediately replay Lotus out of your Graveyard. Effectively every Lotus came with a free cat attached that threatened to take over the game if not immediately dealt with. Too powerful for vintage is not something mtg sees often, but this definitely was.
@TheRedGauntlet2 жыл бұрын
Lurrus really is an insane MTG card. Making an impact in Vintage of all places is quite something.
@amazedalloy2 жыл бұрын
Especially with a cmc of 3
@leftysheppey2 жыл бұрын
About a 2 cards a year, these days, are making a big play in vintage. Some of these are from modern horizons, but some are just powerful in that format, and pretty much only that format. Paradoxical outcome spawned a new storm deck. Lavania made hatebears more than playable Underworld breach put a 2 card combo into your control deck (with brainfreeze) Once upon a time is great in dredge decks, where everything you want is a land or creature Loran of the third path, archon of emeria, anointed peacekeeper, eiganjo are all in initiative decks Patchwork automaton, Golos, Karn the Great Creator, mystic forge, and "The Mightstone and the Meekstone" are both played in artifact decks Karn is often played in a lot of decks, tbh. Third Path Iconoclast, dreadhord arcanist, and expressive iteration are played in jeskai midrange decks Omnath jellybean is good in sultai midrange, along with oko. The list goes on, but vintage is full of pioneer legal cards. Looking at the 50 cards restricted in vintage, 6 are in pioneer sets. This is compared to the power 9. Most are old school cards, with a handful between 2003 and 2014.
@FranklyImaPerson2 жыл бұрын
Ajani just can't catch a break. First Dominaria and now his Pridemate has a spot over him :S
@Liliana_the_ghost_cat2 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@Prince.Eva.Huepow2 жыл бұрын
Who's Ajani?
@Liliana_the_ghost_cat2 жыл бұрын
@@Prince.Eva.Huepow buff lion man
@chaosbuster12752 жыл бұрын
Ajani doesn’t have a creature card
@Prince.Eva.Huepow2 жыл бұрын
@@chaosbuster1275 Ajanji Goldmane is
@joebaumgart11462 жыл бұрын
My cat is the best cat. Her name is Muffin, and she's a little black fluffball! Her favorite food is salmon, and her favorite activity is sleeping!
@salvatoredantonio24132 жыл бұрын
Does Muffin have any graveyard synergies or ETB effects?
@joebaumgart11462 жыл бұрын
@@salvatoredantonio2413 when entering the battle field she gets a +1/+1 for every food token in your graveyard.
@ryanblood5375 Жыл бұрын
@@joebaumgart1146 I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news...but Muffin has been banned in the Standard, Vintage and Pioneer formats.
@WishMakers2 жыл бұрын
It's funny starting my Magic journey with Ikoria as a set because at the time I knew Lurrus was *good* but I had no idea just how meta defining it was, only playing a format like Standard.
@darthparallax52072 жыл бұрын
If you are new to Magic and notice a card is good, it will probably be banned. Cards with ugly drawbacks that new players don't like are often really good. Cards with no drawback and all upside for easy mana costs are BUSTED.
@jmanwild872 жыл бұрын
what made lurrus super duper busted was that companion was like bringing commander into 60 card formats a free 8th card in hand before the companion errata and when you can just do the companion thing for little cost (lurrus being a free roll in a lot of formats) of course not all the companions are busted but companion was a poorly thought out mechanic
@jonathanclarke98142 жыл бұрын
Cauldron Familiar was more banned because on mtg arena games took too long, not because it was too good. In paper Magic you could declare loops as short hand and it saved a lot of time but in mtg arena that wasn’t an option.
@TheBarvaz2 жыл бұрын
I love the creativity with the themes in your top 10 lists and it just gets better with time. Keep it up!
@BassMastaFlash04 Жыл бұрын
I love watching your videos as they are great databases and videos to have on in the background while sorting through cards. But holy crap, all the typos man!!!!!!
@anannoyedpanda2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you post magic stuff ☺️. Found you on wow, then found out about Yu-Gi-Oh, and then here we are. Quality content as always.
@robertphillips79432 жыл бұрын
I never knew about WoW, I only knew about Yugioh, he even started making Pokémon TCG content too lmao
@Zytri92 Жыл бұрын
Bro I knew he sounded familiar…
@paulbbryan2 жыл бұрын
You showed a shock land when you meant to show a fetch land in the #2 entry around 14:05.
@anannoyedpanda2 жыл бұрын
People who point out these little things for no reason just annoy me. Be. Quiet.
@paulbbryan2 жыл бұрын
@@anannoyedpanda this time I did it because other people who see it now won't feel the need to comment similarly, and this way the one comment won't have any negativity in it. That was until you chimed in anyway.
@fernandobanda57342 жыл бұрын
@@anannoyedpanda "little things for no reason" Ever heard of feedback?
@xXSamir44Xx2 жыл бұрын
@@anannoyedpanda "For no reason" Please think about what you write before making a comment next time.
@Lcngopher2 жыл бұрын
Cauldron familiar wasnt an overly powerful card. It was just hard to interact with. Also, wotc said one of the reasons they banned it was because of clicking through the triggers on arena. And this all from a player who ran the deck until cat was banned and just left it together to play in pioneer
@adriannaranjo43972 жыл бұрын
Top 10 Dogs of all time in Magic
@ReederMG2 жыл бұрын
Sad that Savannah Lions didn't make the list. I know it's been very power-crept over time, but it was very iconic for many years
@NeroLordofChaos Жыл бұрын
I loved using ajani's pridemate in a defensive orzhov extort deck. It synced up pretty well. And Brimaz was hilarious with soul wardens+angel of thune/Cathar's Crusade combos. Made him a strong threat just for attacking or blocking
@h3h3podcastclipper2 жыл бұрын
10:44 Don't you mean "Purrmanent"?
@CC-oi9mc2 жыл бұрын
Esikas chariot should get an honorable mention even though it isn’t technically a cat
@bbancaking12982 жыл бұрын
Qasali pridemage sees absolutely no play in pauper and tortured existence is often regarded as a meme in that format
@calemr2 жыл бұрын
Trick with Leonin Arbiter: If you flicker it, it forgets if anyone paid the 2. So if someone pays 2, then cracks a fetchland, you can flicker in response, and your opponent now has to either pay Another 2, or just lose their fetchland for nothing.
@God-ch8lq2 жыл бұрын
ahhh lurrus, aka why magic shouldn't have an extra deck i played lurrus sacrifice in historic pre-errata, got into mythic in like 3 hours
@TheHoopThrower2 жыл бұрын
Another important aspect of Relic-Warden is that, during its standard run, it could go infinite with Phyrexian Metamorph and a soul sister. Since that was Birthing Pod season it was a surprisingly good option to just run maindeck.
@xCorvus7x Жыл бұрын
4:55 What exactly do you do with Tortured Existence? It reads as if you payed one mana (!) to do something you immediately undo again. Are there many cards that gain something if a monster is sent to your graveyard?
@rajamicitrenti1374 Жыл бұрын
There's probably something that combos with it. You can't return the same creature card you discard in a single activation, but if you have a creature in hand and one in GY, you can repeat as many times as you have the mana. Given when it was first printed, I'm sure it was originally designed as a way to get a creature back while also discarding a creature that has Madness.
@restionSerpentine Жыл бұрын
Pouncing Jaguar "One pounce you die quickly, Two pounces she's teaching her cubs, you are in for a long day."
@calemr2 жыл бұрын
Video idea: Worst additional cost for playing a card. Probable winner: Eater of Days' ETB of "Skip 2 turns". At least you can sac Abyssal Persecutor to get rid of his "You can't win" effect. If Eater resolves and then dies, you still miss 2 turns.
@RealityMasterRogue2 жыл бұрын
Kaheera like kazakustan, from hearthstone.... At base, it had a powerful ability "if your deck had no duplicates"...so you would cast it when you had no deck at all
@GreatgoatonFire2 жыл бұрын
Kaheera is a strong contender on the Top Ten Cutest MTG Cards list. Just looks at her kids making a ruckus.
@1ryb3602 жыл бұрын
The small kitten next to Lurrus is also just precious
@GreatgoatonFire2 жыл бұрын
@@1ryb360 You're damn right
@eetuheikkinen87492 жыл бұрын
Brimaz wouldn't be able to deal with seasoned dungeoneer in combat since when it's attacking the dungeoneer is propably going to have protection from creatures and it can't block both brimaz and the token
@elbee23242 жыл бұрын
You could expand this theme in a different way. "Most powerful cats in a cat themed deck". You could also extend that idea to the other themes: "Most powerful human, elf, dragon, zombie..." you get the idea.
@7Alberto72 жыл бұрын
Amazing!
@MrSchwad2 жыл бұрын
> this effect, made popular by Oblivion Ring you made Faceless Butcher sad! that said, it's interesting how an mechanic that started on a specific type of creature in black ended up migrating to white and finding a niche there as its most popular removal template
@lockstepsavior2 жыл бұрын
I was hoping to see Skycat Sovereign here, but I think I'm the only person that likes making Bird Kittens for way too much mana.
@ReyosBlackwood Жыл бұрын
14:00 that is a shock land, not a fetch land.
@Aikisbest Жыл бұрын
Imagine if they did an Elder Scrolls crossover and we got a whole slew of new cats to play with :D
@_knighted2 жыл бұрын
Ajani's Pridemate entered Standard with Core Set 2019 as well
@afriendofafriend57662 жыл бұрын
I thought this just said best cards, not cats, so I was confused when the list began with Ajani's Pridemate
@jettblade2 жыл бұрын
The Companion mechanic never should have been in Standard. It should have been in a supplemental set like Commander Legends or Battlebond where it couldn't be legal in most tournaments. Some of them still would have caused issues but that is because they were way too strong to begin with, Kaheera is strong but not too unfair Lurrus is broken and never should have be printed.
@theemathas2 жыл бұрын
Pre-nerf Lurrus wasn’t just the most powerful cat. It was one of the most powerful cards ever printed, in the same caliber as power 9. Adding 3 mana is an absurdly harsh nerf, and yet lurrus was still busted anyway.
@monkaWGiga2 жыл бұрын
The fact it made Black Lotus gain +3 mana AND get a free cat in Vintage is terrifying.
@chan4est2 жыл бұрын
Can you please remove the red line under your ranking numbers? It always makes me think that the KZbin play bar is popping up. It also draws too much attention away from the text on the ride side of the screen and the card itself.
@sandrin02 жыл бұрын
I will never get over the fact that lurrus had to be *banned* in vintage not just for power-level reasons, but because restricting it wouldn't've done anything. Absolutely ridiculous, screw-up of a lifetime for r&d
@randommaster062 жыл бұрын
Displacer Kitten is just the natural state of all kittens.
@novusnocturnm2 жыл бұрын
The only cat that matters anymore is brimaz king of the kitties. Best cat. Leader of my original cat tribal EDH(before it was called commander) khajiit did nothing wrong, khajiit did not steal this vehicle. Waaaaay more fun than you’re expect. I’d also accept arahbo roar of the wild. Pretty kitty.
@aylanelson9946 Жыл бұрын
No Wild Nacatl? 😿
@vonmatrices2 жыл бұрын
Top 10 cards most affected by oracle text
@forceofnatureDGX Жыл бұрын
14:01 uhhh...that's not a fetchland...
@thecursed_1lordofcats7382 жыл бұрын
I want to pet all of them. Sure, doing so would likely result in me getting my head ripped off, but I don't care. I'm pretty sure Displacer Kitten is the only one that wouldn't kill me on sight.
@adamlucas17642 жыл бұрын
Where’s wild nacatl on the list?
@kennydarmawan132 жыл бұрын
considering Hardleg voicing a recent TheDuelLogs episode, I wonder if other MtG KZbinrs would join in and voice in TheDuelLogs place in this channel. Just imagine Nizzahon reading, and even revising, the scripts of the videos. Maybe MONO BLACK or LegenVD can join in too.
@krvys72262 жыл бұрын
If I remember though, he has been friends with hardleg for a while. I don't know if he yet has an in for the magic community. Also, I think he kinda did his original yugioh channel, and subsequently this magic channel, as a bit of an inversion of how nizzahon does it. While nizza is great, his commentary is not the best if you don't have some knowledge of the game, as opposed to mana logs, who is a bit more new player friendly. That said, I agree having nizza would be cool. I would suggest one of the spike feeders, such as Jim. While he goes over combos of varying difficulty in his better onow a combo series, he is usually good at keeping explanations simplified for all viewing audiences
@cg26502 жыл бұрын
Top 10 cards that cost 7 or more mana
@fatefulwaffle2 жыл бұрын
What if we get a "top 10: top 10's" next
@lollojojjo66122 жыл бұрын
I think if Lurrus said "during you turns, you may have a permanent Card with CMC 2 0 less with no escape ability have unearth. The escape is equal to it's mana cost" it would have been more balanced
@fernandobanda57342 жыл бұрын
What's the difference?
@xXSamir44Xx2 жыл бұрын
Maybe in lower power level formats. In vintage you would still get Black Lotus or a moxen back for free. Not to mention that 1 or 2 mana isn't hard to pay past turn 3.
@lollojojjo66122 жыл бұрын
@@fernandobanda5734 escape makes you exile the card when it leaves the field
@fernandobanda57342 жыл бұрын
@@lollojojjo6612 No, it doesn't... You're thinking of flashback/unearth.
@lollojojjo66122 жыл бұрын
@@fernandobanda5734 oh, my bad
@savannahlion30812 жыл бұрын
Cats Rule while dogs Drool. Yeah! 🤘🦁🤘
@tcoren1 Жыл бұрын
A top 10 cats in magic list ending in lurrus makes me think of a yugioh top 10 list ending in maxx c
@Cookie_Magika2 жыл бұрын
Still in ads. Let’s see what 10-2 are since lurris is #1
@tylergorham90952 жыл бұрын
So apparently, I could have a powerful cat army.
@caiodavi7279 Жыл бұрын
Good, started the video with a reminder of my 316 vs 564 mono white life gain mirror macht..........
@rominou772 жыл бұрын
I read "best cards in Magic" and i saw pridemate ans brimaz, i was Mike "what?"
@Kris2005isMine Жыл бұрын
Every time I heard "relic warden," I cringed inside.
@TheCjahlers2 жыл бұрын
No love for my main man jetmir
@YatzeeWillWearAGreenHat2 жыл бұрын
I misread cat to card 😂
@sir-ta-l2 жыл бұрын
Sacred cat best cats
@kennydarmawan132 жыл бұрын
10. I think the funniest combo with Ajani's Pridemate would be with Weather the Storm. Imagine someone going for a huge Storm stack, only for you to cast Weather to make Ajani's Pridemate huge, provided no Flusterstorm or Stifle happened. 8. Did I hear Qasali pronounced as QUAsali? 7. It's Ee-kor-reeya. Not Ikoria. He even pronounced it correctly later, I think. Also, Kaheera's a girl? 1. Ah yes. Lurrus, part of the 2021 trinity of nonsense alongside Oko and Uro, and arguably the worst. You know a card is busted when a mechanical errata doesn't stop it at all. Also, what about Mirri, Weatherlight Duelist, Alms Collector, Hungry Lynx, Qasali Slingers, Leonin Shikari, Pride of the Clouds, Leonin Warleader, Pride Sovereign, Felidar Sovereign, Lion Sash, Prowling Serpopard, Temur Sabertooth, Qasali Ambusher, and Leonin Abunas?
@fosterdawson73392 жыл бұрын
The thing about most of the cards you mentioned is a lot of them only really see play in commander, especially cat based decks. Most of these don’t have the historic impact the ones Mr. Logs mentioned. I wish he’d said Savannah lions for the og magic player meme but the list is pretty solid
@fernandobanda57342 жыл бұрын
@@fosterdawson7339 Lion Sash in particular is played competitively
@jasonandkathleenbarker6306 Жыл бұрын
Mirri cat warrior counts as a cat warrior
@boguswd85722 жыл бұрын
WHERE IS THE SACRED CAT??????!!!!!
@Snipfragueur2 жыл бұрын
Top 10 best rats ?
@bobzour2 жыл бұрын
Cat.
@melvinshine98412 жыл бұрын
There's a card called Shark Typhoon? Please tell me that card existed before those dumbass Sharknado "movies"... I don't know if this channel has an internal banlist like TheDuelLogs does, but I suspect it's being considered for Lurrus. I could feel in The____Logs voice that he's getting tired of talking about that card.
@Finngon2 жыл бұрын
Shark Typhoon is indeed a card, from Ikoria (early 2020). So I assume it was printed after those movies. It's a 5U enchantment with Cycling X1U, and effects "Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, create an X/X blue shark creature token with flying, where X is the that spell's mana value" and "When you cycle Shark Typhoon, create an X/X blue shark creature token with flying."
@TheRedGauntlet2 жыл бұрын
Yes, definitly inspired on the movies XD. Funny thing is that is a legit card that see compettive play lol.
@fernandobanda57342 жыл бұрын
On the contrary, it was very much inspired by Sharknado. Ikoria referenced popular monster media in general.
@TheyCallHimPogo2 жыл бұрын
I thought life gain was a "failed mechanic" and yet we spent the first slot of this talking about competitive life gain. Ironic isn't it Alanis??
@fernandobanda57342 жыл бұрын
That very same video addressed what you said
@xXSamir44Xx2 жыл бұрын
Life gain by itself is a failed mechanic. Slapping it onto an actual effect and adding a card like pridemate makes a big difference.
@TheyCallHimPogo2 жыл бұрын
@@fernandobanda5734 no it didn't. It was 20 minutes of why it's a terrible mechanic and ignored every competitive deck in every format.
@TheyCallHimPogo2 жыл бұрын
@@xXSamir44Xx This guy gets it. I'm not saying life gain on it's own is useful, but there are ways to weaponize it and those ways have made an impact on more than just one format.
@fernandobanda57342 жыл бұрын
@@TheyCallHimPogo They DID mention when and how life gain has mattered competitively, from incidental life gain being good especially against aggro to full-blown life gain combo decks. Whether that disqualifies it from being a "failed mechanic" or if the title was just clickbait is another matter, but unless we saw two different videos, it was all there.
@AsmoAstro2 жыл бұрын
I can't get over the fact that Lurrus is a cat and not a dog. Idk everytime I see the card I think he is a dog bases on the artwork
@jimson1722 жыл бұрын
flip leonin arbiter and kaheera
@Derfman132 жыл бұрын
These top 10's are really slipping, how did Leoric make it all the way to number 6 when he's not even a cat? Let alone, not even a character owned by WotC?
@radnubnub1012 жыл бұрын
First
@theemathas2 жыл бұрын
Pre-nerf Lurrus wasn’t just the most powerful cat. It was one of the most powerful cards ever printed, in the same caliber as power 9. Adding 3 mana is an absurdly harsh nerf, and yet lurrus was still busted anyway.