Top 10 Biggest Differences Between the Castlevania Series and Video Games

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[@marcusyates3044]

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[@cameronjr8]

Just letting you know the previous Japanese actor of Richter died in 2022. Kiyoyuki Yanada.

[@ifrithellfire666]

Game actor or anime actor?

[@cameronjr8]

@@ifrithellfire666 Game Actor.

[@classicghostrider2715]

Rest in Piece to a legendary Belmont.

[@NoNoDontTouchMeThere]

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[@nugget3327]

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[@barnabusdoyle4930]

The change to Dracula’s motive in wanting to destroy humanity was a genius move and gave the showrunners the foundation for a lot of inter-vampire drama and a decent reason why Dracula’s generals would want to turn on him.

[@gv82089]

That was always his motivation post Lisa's death

[@barnabusdoyle4930]

@@gv82089 Was is? I don’t recall that being in any of the games. I remember the scene in SotN where it was revealed that Alucard was there when Lisa died but she told him not to interfere.

[@gv82089]

@@barnabusdoyle4930 Yes it was, he even calls back to it in the final battle

[@Aivottaja]

It wasn't changed. That was always Dracula's motive. He became a vampire because of his first wife death to spite God. He became Dracula after his second wife died to destroy mankind as revenge.

[@BigFella117]

Seeing how cool Trevor and Richter are in the show makes me want to see a show about Leon Belmont’s origin

[@saljpal3]

Me too, I was expecting Nocturne to be about him instead of Richter.

[@BigFella117]

@@saljpal3 still, it was an awesome show

[@saljpal3]

@@BigFella117 Without a doubt, and I’m very excited to see season 2, but I also hope we get a prequel about Leon at some point.

[@BigFella117]

@@saljpal3 same, it can't come soon enough. Maybe if the fans give enough support we'll get a prequel about Leon

[@jeremyroberts9938]

Richter is not cool in the show lmfao

[@jeremyp5210]

The first series was so well done. When a show can make you sympathize with its antagonist, you know you have some great writing and acting

[@MarshalDTeachh]

Agreed, the first Castlevania series was a chef's kiss. Nocturne on the other hand not so much, it was honestly mid at best in my opinion.

[@apollospyrol7168]

@@MarshalDTeachhliterally the only good parts were the last 3 episodes

[@MarshalDTeachh]

@@apollospyrol7168 You talking about Nocturne right?

[@FarikoWishless]

@@MarshalDTeachhI completely disagree and I watched it all the same night I finished Castlevania. I made myself aware of bias and tried to remove the fact I missed the trio and just exist in the now after it was wrapped up. It’s the first season if you want to be realistic Castlevanias first season was 4 episodes and you didn’t get flashy fight scene til literally the last few minutes of episode 4. The next four episodes of S2 was all writing and build up. I think people are trying to downplay Nocturne out of nostalgia for the crew we got attached to.

[@MarshalDTeachh]

@@FarikoWishless I agree and disagree with you. I agree that perhaps some people dislike Nocturne out of nostalgia. I'd disagree because Nocturne didn't really make Richter feel like a badass Belmont until the last few episodes. Maria was kinda rude for a 12 yr. old, Annette was... a character I guess, but if Nocturne is supposed to be based on Rondo of Blood they didn't really capture that feeling.

[@MichaelTaylor-qp2xf]

Annette was probably the biggest departure, followed by the role of Erzabeth/Elizabeth Bathory, who wouldn't come into the game series until the time of World War 1 in Bloodlines, seeking to revive Dracula.

[@arcturionblade1077]

I mean, there wasn't much for the show runners to work with as far as video game Annette is concerned. She's literally just Richter's girlfriend and a damsel in distress, and that's it. There's no other characterization to her. With Nocturne Annette, there's so much more back story and personality to her character.

[@catarenatucker2781]

I knew Erzabeth seemed familiar. I thought of Bloodlines

[@thomasoden7688]

@@arcturionblade1077exactly

[@NaquanGreen-zt4gr]

​@@arcturionblade1077 Unfortunately they had to sacrifice any romance between Richter and Annette from the games. I really don't know if the writers know how to write romance very well in the Castlevania series. I mean just take a look at Trevor and sypha from the OG and how rushed/out of nowhere it was in S3 & S5 Don't even get me started on the Hector and Lenore relationship...🤢 These writers don't know how to write believable romance and should probably just leave it alone.

[@NaquanGreen-zt4gr]

​@@arcturionblade1077 I hate to be cynical but I don't think the romance between these two characters will be written very well and it will probably be one of the worst aspects of the series in later seasons. The two characters just don't have any romantic chemistry in the show and any that we do see seems rushed/out of nowhere.

[@360entertainment2]

I thought Greta from season 4 was a redone version of Grant Danasty, like she’s even from a village called Denasti!

[@HorrorHoundV]

She is. Greta's the Grant representation for the show. Watchmojo need to really pay attention more

[@Chernobog2]

​@@HorrorHoundVI think the showrunners claimed she's not meant to be the show's version of Grant. Fwiw Dăneşti is a real place in Romania

[@MarshalDTeachh]

Omg! I've rewatched the first installment of Castlevania so many times and I never noticed that

[@360entertainment2]

@@Chernobog2 it’s honestly too much of a coincidence, I get that’s not the show runners intentions but it’s way too on the nose!

[@NightmareZerogbs]

I'm surprised you didn't mention that in the games, Trevor is canonically the first Belmont to kill Dracula, yet in the series, it's Alucard who does it.

[@SuperPianogirl123]

Technically, he was still moving after Alucard staked him. He finally died when Trevor beheaded him.

[@NightmareZerogbs]

Huh...I looked up the scene(and cried again) and you're right, Trevor finishes him off, I remembered he died directly from being impaled with the stake, not by being beheaded

[@kynmane]

@@SuperPianogirl123 assist kills don’t count

[@TheWarmachine375]

6:31 Alucard is here and he's going for a walk. A very enthusiastic walk.

[@thesamuraix881]

Wrong Alucard

[@MiniB79]

​@@thesamuraix881 yes,this is different Alucard,but the situation is the same - enthusiastic walk for killing vampires

[@joshalvarez298]

Just finished Nocturne. I think that the original series is far better, but this new season is still really good. Solid 7.5 vs the 9 I would give the original show.

[@n7jaeger974]

its barely the first season you imb and the first season of the original was only 4 episodes let more seasons of nocturne come out

[@katra777]

it's his opinion, calm down.@@n7jaeger974

[@aimanmarzuqi4804]

@@n7jaeger974 Calm down. Joshaalvarez isn't even complaining about Nocturne, he still said it was good. There's no need for harsh language by calling someone an imb, jeez.

[@MatthewAshworth]

Most likely it will get better and better with further seasons as we'll get a chance to see more character development and more epic aspects of the game being included (such as the music tracks). :)

[@lonniecfireillbemayorsomeday]

I get to Different Strokes for different folks but I would have to save nocturnus the superior one even with it only having one season and I say this because it does build off of the past seasons and the story is actually darker

[@remmy1219]

Jamie Murray as Carmella is one of the best things to happen to the entire series. NOBODY plays a better villainess. IYKYK.

[@grahamstrouse1165]

She is SO good at playing bad girls.

[@kingcole1012]

You know a show is good when they change quite a bit of the source material but you still freaking love it so much that you can view it as its own thing. I will admit the show even improved on some of the game's elements in terms of story.

[@renonagasan]

Learning about the entire lore of Castlevania, I much prefer the series more because of how cohesive the story is. I also prefer how the story doesn't just revolve around Dracula resurrecting over and over and over, and actually gave him a great send off by letting him be with her wife again. The changes just makes a lot more sense but still true to the Castlevania lore to its core.

[@Raximus3000]

No, they did not! Vlacula killed thousands and brought a country to ruin. Him getting a happy end is an insult to all the lives he took and those he ruined! You sir are a monster.

[@drzitbag06]

series does not represent the lore. for instance alucard had no place in castlevania nocturnes final episode. alucard does not show up until richter beats dracula and gets "confused" by shaft. annette is not a black fighter girl with magical powers from caribbean. she is a damsel in distress.

[@renonagasan]

@@drzitbag06 And? What about it? I like it better. So?

[@drzitbag06]

@@renonagasan it is not about you like it or not. It is neither lore nor cannon. Your opinion does not matter.

[@renonagasan]

@@drzitbag06 And at the end of the day I like what I like. And I like how the Netflux adaptation spans out better. lmao What about it?

[@shamak0054]

For someone who is a fan of canon games, the way they denigrated Hector is an insult.

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

On one hand, it wouldn't be much of an adaptation if all the players weren't there. On the other hand, it's kind of hard to picture it in my mind's eye how Grant Danasty would've worked in to all the fight choreography with his sweet flips and tiny knives. And Annette's question about "Who's Dracula" has me wondering if we've really strayed from the games' lore of Dracula constantly coming back, or if the Belmonts are just really good at keeping his resurrections on the downlow.

[@Migsterium]

In the games, Dracula is the personification of chaos which is why he is resurrected over and over again during times of great unrest. But in the Netflix series, Dracula was just the most powerful vampire of his time. Another character from Nocturne sums it up nicely with the phrase "evil always wins"; the Belmonts can kill thousands of vampires but there will always be more. It stands to reason that in the time gap between Trevor's and Richter's adventures, there have been many other Dark Lords, and over time most people forgot about Dracula.

[@cailieisidro5758]

@Migsterium Agreed but that character you’re referring to is Juste Belmont, Richter’s grandpa

[@javiervasquez625]

​@@Migsterium Lol Evil DOESN'T always win it's a _cycle_ which keeps repeating due Humanity's propensity for violence and injustice forcing vampirehunters to step up and fight wathever Evil arises to start a new Era of prosperity before a new Evil comes about. Think of it like the Force in Star Wars constantly triggering conflicts between the Light and Dark as part of an eternal cycle which keeps balance in the universe but with vampires and vampirehunters.

[@zacharybartolo5111]

I figured her question of "Whos' Dracula?" comes more from that story and legend just hasn't reached her home. Can everyone in America claim to know every story from Europe?

[@barnabusdoyle4930]

Actually, Annette asking who Dracula is makes perfect sense. She is from the US, was raised as a slave and then went to be taught magic at a young age. Her having no idea who Dracula was makes sense for her character especially if he hasn’t been resurrected. I actually expect to see Dracula in Nocturne in a cameo or coming in to challenge the big bad. Remember that he is still alive and was going to live in England with Lisa at the end of season 4. Would make sense for him to still be around.

[@Doffythegoat]

Not going to lie, love Castlevania, but when I watched Nocturne I found Annette to be insufferable. Horrendous attitude and takes no accountability for causing harm to her allies. I really hope they improve her character in the future.

[@Cangeltibon]

😒 Sure it’s her attitude, that made you find her “insufferable”. She fiercely loyal to her friends, those “allies” are people she just met, as soon as she’s given context she became accepting. But I’m curious, exactly how did she fail to take accountability?

[@FireheartYGraystripe]

I know it won't happen but i prefer they killed her off and just added a better character.

[@FrustratedMillennial]

​@@FireheartYGraystripeagreed

[@FrustratedMillennial]

​@@Cangeltibonill say it she shouldnt have been race swapped especially for some woke slave story

[@keithlivingston6973]

She’s annoying and I hope bad things happens to her 😂

[@bigblack1]

This is an example of when you deviate from the material, but you still keep the spirit and have a good storytelling

[@NaquanGreen-zt4gr]

@bigblack1 Except Castlevania season 3 and season 4 weren't that good. Nocturne is mostly garbage (only having good animation and Alucard's entrance in the end of S1) that is in no way a proper adaptation of Rondo of Blood and SOTN. Erzsebet Bathory is a boring one-dimensional villain with the most generic of villain motivations "I want to take over the world" and is in no way a complex character like Dracula. Abbott is quite possibly the worst character in the show.

[@kondoriano4813]

​@@NaquanGreen-zt4grHow to say you know nothing about good storytelling without saying you know nothing about good storytelling

[@MarshalDTeachh]

@@NaquanGreen-zt4gr You have to understand that Castlevania Season 3 and 4 would be considered as epilogues to events that happened in the original Castlevania III: Dracula's Curse. It did so well in telling a story about the main cast of characters. bigblack said it best Castlevania was a good example of when you deviate from source material while still maintaining the spirit of it. I just wish Nocturne had done the same because it honestly felt like mid at best Castlevania imo.

[@NaquanGreen-zt4gr]

@@MarshalDTeachh Castlevania season 3 and 4 completely ignored the events and butchered Hector's story from Curse of Darkness. Hector's story in both seasons was terrible awful and the character of Lenore is universally hated amongst the fandom. There was nothing wrong with Hector's story from CoD and they easily could have adapted it in the show by only making a few changes.

[@NaquanGreen-zt4gr]

​@@kondoriano4813 How is erzsebet Bathory a good storytelling? How do any of the villains (minus Orlox) have a good story let alone good motivations for what they do? Abbott is an even worse version of Hector from the OG series. Both characters have gained dislike from fans.

[@blaedus5318]

3:02 It's strongly implied in the games that Lisa Tepes is the _reincarnation_ of Elisabetha Cronqvist. On top of that, Lisa is eventually reincarnated as Mina Hakuba, the love interest of Soma Cruz. And Soma Cruz is... . . . ...the reincarnation of Dracula and protagonist of one of the best Castlevania games, Aria of Sorrow.

[@MatthewAshworth]

Isaac's change deserved to be an entry of its own on this list and not just a quick side comment. The character was completely remade, not just by appearance, but also by personality, going from a rambunctious crazed psycho in the games to a more collected, methodical and intelligent guy in the show. I'd say also Hector pretty much being stripped off all fighting ability was also a big change (this time a poor choice, in my opinion), seeing how in the game he could single-handedly defeat Dracula. Would've been nice if he had at least 10% of the badassery he had in the game.

[@timalice-2833]

In SotN Olrox is a bald vampire in the castle, not an indigenous man. Also, Olrox’s name is based off of Orlock, or Graff Orlock from 1922’s Nosferatu, which is why he was bald in the game. Also, Erzsebet Bathory appeared in Castlevania Bloodlines as Elizabeth Bartley which takes place in 1917. She was listed as Dracula’s niece she is trying to resurrect her uncle in that game.

[@lucasborlini]

What bothered me the most is how they butchered Hector's story and changed badass characters with cool powers into a whining loser while elevating Isaac as the powerful "hero" even though the source material is very clear in stating that Hector was way more powerful than Isaac, and that what caused Isaac to resent him in the first place.

[@mrcuboid]

Cope

[@FireheartYGraystripe]

Well Hector was kinda white and Isaac was black and its made by netflix SOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@greek_commie]

Annette's new backstory FUCKING RULES!!!!!!!!!!

[@rd116s]

But it's just slavery tho 😂😂

[@greek_commie]

@@rd116s and revolution lol

[@rd116s]

@@greek_commie but mostly slavery but they made the white guys a vampire A little bit twist to the real story🤣🤣

[@spaceintuity9194]

@@rd116sno other animated media talks about race and slavery like this. I loved it too. It was very bold of them to bring race in to the mix , but it’s really well done

[@Nobuwaroo]

Only played the games briefly, my knowledge of the source material is a mix bag so some differences I was aware of and others was new to me. overall loving the show.

[@varanidguy]

I would also like to see an adaptation of Lament of Innocence. The Belmont that started it all.

[@corymorimacori1059]

“Take this!” Rikter *Throws holy water*

[@Sparkledash1]

As someone who likes Rondo of Blood and loves Symphony of the Night, i wasn't too upset about the changes in the first season of nocturne. And while season 1 had some flaws, i am willing to forgive if some of the build up will pay off later.

[@mizushogun]

Exactly! Somebody with some sense

[@tplayz7942]

Season 2 SHOULD be absolutely amazing.

[@Kardia1019]

nah making Richter a pussy is unforgivable

[@princessbreeminecraft3821]

Drolta is another example because in the game she was a witch and for the show she is a vampire with a demon form. The Netflix version was quite interesting with how she is portrayed and designed

[@flawedandnotperfect]

But what they both have in common is they're both peak masterpieces

[@atharva7462]

I don't see any characters done dirty in games unlike Netflixvania, lol

[@madsnowman4067]

Yeah, game adaptations done right

[@demgutts]

​@@atharva7462agreed 😂

[@aimanmarzuqi4804]

@@atharva7462 Ok buddy, sure

[@CircleFly]

@@atharva7462 Yeah, Netflix did Hector dirty. If that's what you're referencing. Complete opposite of what they did with Isaac though, that was a good character imo. Pretty much a new character, but good none the less imo.

[@Sirkazzerino]

Normally, departures from the source material are completely unwarranted. But honestly, both the original and Nocturnal have been amazing imo. Good solid stories.

[@Raximus3000]

Nope, there is filler for days in them and an obvious messages that were not in the games. Calling them good is an insult to quality.

[@AshParth560]

Even just seen Nocturne the other day. Better than the first Castlevania series? Not 100% but it was still a fun watch.

[@DizPrince]

Compare both season 1s, I'd put nocturne as the better opening season. However, s2 for the original was a game changer. The original trio storming the castle is still my favorite scene.

[@AshParth560]

@@DizPrince while bloody tears playing was even the icing on the cake, of course

[@robertbouley7697]

I’ll let Nocturne stretch its legs before I compare the stories. But regardless, the whole Castlevania series is phenomenal.

[@shadowslayer1985]

to be honest the changes in Annette and Isaac did not bother me at all they make the show unique and not a copy paste of the games yet still conserving the atmosphere of dread and terror that is castlevania, Hector was kind of annoying but he got better, I loved how they did not just make Annette into damsel in distress like in Rondo of Blood, and they gave Olrox a personality he was not just a minion hope they keep doing this adaptions for long time, maybe even seeing an adaptation of Ecclessia, Bloodlines, Portrait of Ruin (fixing Johnathan personality) or maybe the Of Sorrow games, and put Galamoth as a Villain too that he was never with Dracula

[@gamelover2222]

It's woke trash intended to ruin established lore.

[@NaquanGreen-zt4gr]

@shadowslayer1985 Hector is one of the worst characters in the Netflix series and has a ton of dislike from game fans. Don't even get me started on his disgusting relationship with Lenore - the worst Castlevania character. Hector's story from the game Curse of Darkness is much better

[@jptruth2372]

They really should incorporate ALL the belmonts. Simon, Trevor, Richter, Juste, Leon, etc

[@TimSnead223]

I’m hoping we get a couple different seasons with Leon migrating to the Wallachia region establishing the Belmont house. Then a series with Simon!

[@jonathanbenoza8136]

Nocturne feels like a shonen compared to the initial seasons.

[@FireheartYGraystripe]

This is so accurate, I couldn't put it into words! The part where richter and juste are gonna die and suddenly richter is just "boom magic" was such a bullshit shonen power up. Someone asks how he did it and he says "IDK" Richter and annette touching hands and faces going all blush/kawaii.

[@ragingraichu219]

The show has a different writer, which is why.

[@kundenservice3100]

Thanks for all the clarification. I just know the Lords of the Shadow timeline (which could be considered a reboot)

[@voicesinhead3577]

For me Isaac was just a whole ass shocker that made me LOVE him in the show the most.

[@mizushogun]

Thank you for making this. I’ve been seeing some disingenuous arguments by people online, claiming that the newest series is “unfaithful” and goes against the “source material” when the previous series clearly wasn’t entirely accurate either.

[@justasoulsfan9805]

Bruh, there are two types of people who hate the show. 1. People who loved the first show and hate Nocturne for how "shallow" and "inclusive" it was. These people have rose tinted glasses as the previous Castlevania show was just like Nocturne. It's just that CV3 and Curse of Darkness (the games the first Netflix show "adapted") are less known than Rondo of Blood/Symphony of the Night (what is supposedly tackled in Nocturne). So less people knew about the changes and tolerated them. Meanwhile Rondo/Symphony feature Richter (who also became playable in Smash), Alucard and Maria. Absolute fan favorites. Not only that, Symphony of the Night is by far the most popular if not iconic game in the series with its influences still present to this day. So more people know about its story and characters, thus changes are easily spotted. 2. Hardcore Castlevania fans who played the games and know the lore hate/abhor both shows equally, I can assure you.

[@DebateAbullets]

I want neflix to adapt Soma's story. I think it would make a perfect source material because of Aria and Dawn of sorrows plot. Thats like 2 to 4 seasons together and then they can conclude there because thats where everytging concluded anyway. But i am aware that going from nocturne to the modern setting is too much because theres just too much in between between the games. like Portrait of ruin for example. but either way i would still want to see it happen.

[@Late_Guy]

With Dracula turning into a good guy on the end, only means that we won't be getting to Julius Belmont in any case. Man, i wish they took Leon Belmont's story but i guess Richter was fine too

[@alvinbonny1562]

I thought the same. Leon got so much potential for a serie of even a movie

[@wanderingbufoon]

I will say, despite Netflix's rampant agenda pushers in their creative department, I do like Isaac's and Marie's renditions. They actually didn't just shoe horn them in but gave them a background. Isaac was met during Dracula's travel. This expanded the world through his inclusion alone. His backstory and motivation also was realistic in terms of world setting which gives depth to his character but also solidifies him as part of that world rather than a mere meta-commentary tool to toot the creative department's ego. The same can be said with Annette but I will say that the show was poorly executed because the people responsible for it were just sacrificing the integrity of a good story for ego blasting. I mean, I was always confused why Richter was saying stupid stuff in episode 1 alone. Like "I don't need to understand you to believe in you" like they're just making him that meta-commentary tool again for sexism. SMH. This is why I hate Western creative department. Just focusing on easy clout. Never mind the quality.

[@gara1045]

Great Job guys 🎉🎉🎉❤👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@twglenn9636]

Hector change was the one that bothered me most. In game he could hang combat wise with trevor but on the show he is just a simp with a plan

[@HeroesForADay]

I just love the series and I love Alucard's portrayal, but having enjoyed playing as Hector in the past, in Curse of Darkness, I didn't like what they did with the character.

[@jptruth2372]

Trevor was WAY better with the whip btw. Morning Star was awesome.

[@TheRotisserie_Mystery]

If they dont bust out a new AAA Castlevania game ima cry and if they do ima cry but for diff reasons

[@marcusyates3044]

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[@atago47]

Came for the BIG differences ✌

[@Factboy12]

Almost everybody is gay. "Representacion" on a whole new level. Almost all white men are EVIL. Race-swapping of already established characters.

[@blaze14ZX]

I never played the games so I didn't know what was different and what was the same. But Annette and Issac are classic examples of just create new characters instead of retconing old ones. Annette definitely should have been a whole new character like carmela's sisters. These changes definitely elevate the story telling, no doubt about that. However I'm definitely glad they changed issac because as much as I like menacingly evil characters the Issac we got sounds way better than the original.

[@cailieisidro5758]

I didn’t mind Annette as it’s better if she’s not a damsel in distress. However for Issac, he was an interesting villain. Very cruel from the start but eventually changed in the last season. I even like his design there more

[@__Oku__]

I kinda disagree with Annette. It's very difficult to not change her character entirely if the game literally gave us nothing at all. And I think that giving a love interest to Richter other than Annette or not called Annette would've been a worse choice. Either way, Annette was desperately in need of a rewrite, but Richter also needed his love interest to be Annette. So I kinda understand why these changes happened, even if their change in appearance wasn't absolutely necessary. At least we got a more interesting story out of it 🤷🏾

[@cailieisidro5758]

@_Oku_ You do have a point but for Annette being Richter’s love interest, the closet we got from the show is how there’s some ship tease moments, such as Richter returning and Annette apologizing inside the antic thing

[@CMLoveLust]

Annette's character change greatly supplemented the backdrop of the French Revolution and the themes of freedom, especially as it pertains to master and slavery. It's also adding a historical aspect to the show that was non-existent in the source material's character, with the aim of making her more relatable/complex. Her character change adds a much needed "depth" that the original lacked and complements the beat of the story. Plus it's refreshing seeing skin colour representation in characters who aren't just "background" fodder. These characters actually have major roles and arcs that are captivating ☝🏽

[@JustJamieson]

I played the games and I agree with you regarding just creating new characters instead of retconning the old ones. They were creating new characters for the series anyways, why retcon the old ones? For Isaac from the first series, I wanted him to be a new character, keep his story, dilemmas and resolution with Hector the same, while having "game" Isaac in the series as well, who still wanted revenge. The problem with my , though, is that it would be leaving it unresolved (and would create more questions for non-game fans), or then they would have to continue the series with Hector and have a adaptation of the Curse of Darkness game as he was the protagonist. For Annette in Nocturne, her backstory/side story I liked without having her to be a retcon. I mean, Mizrak is an original character created for Nocturne, as well as some others, what's the issue? TV/movie industry have this habit of retconning old characters, but create new characters that are original to the show instead of keeping the old characters as they were and just create new characters anyways. (Smallville, Supergirl, etc.)

[@geardog24]

While I don’t mind the changes, getting rid of Grant Dynasty was a huge mistake. He was the best character in the game.

[@simbabear]

How is Grant the best? just cause he can Climb on the the ceiling oOo ... you might as well not be a Castlevania fan he in 1 game & don't quote Jugement. That doesn't count.

[@geardog24]

@@simbabear throw your fake hate somewhere else. He was my favorite character.

[@simbabear]

Fake!? How the Fuck is he your favorite character he's in one game 1 no other Refrence besides Jugement & "the one guy who rides with a sail Claming to be pirate of the road"

[@Aripuni1]

@@simbabear compare to every heroes grant is acrobatic guy without supernatural or BS power, that what make him so interesting, grant in one game doesnt make him less unique. And that his oponion tho if he like a characters

[@NaquanGreen-zt4gr]

​@@simbabear And you think Greta is a better character than Grant? Greta wasn't even all that important in Castlevania season 4 and had a pretty rushed romance with Alucard after the disaster that was season 3 (🤢) Greta isn't even a character she was a plot device designed to get Alucard to stop being mopey and depressed.

[@skullmanic1]

Even with massive changes .i loved every bit of Netflix castlevania

[@CrimsonSnoipah]

The most disappointing thing in Castlevania's show series is that Death isn't Dracula's friend. I've always liked that, ever since I was a kid, that the big bad had a 'friend and confidant'. I don't know why they went on to change that.

[@adriantepes4355]

Death was basically Dracula's most trusted and most powerful general. And in the series he isn't even the real death god

[@NaquanGreen-zt4gr]

​@@adriantepes4355 Exactly. The literal grim reaper and Dracula's most loyal friend/confidant is reduced to just an evil spirit.

[@adriantepes4355]

@@NaquanGreen-zt4gr And Dracula too was turned into the "king of vampires". The mighty embodiment and master of chaos and hell was turned into just an OP vampire lord

[@NaquanGreen-zt4gr]

@@adriantepes4355 And they took an incredibly forgettable villain (Elizabeth Bathory from Bloodlines) and made her the new big bad... With generic motivations and turned her into a Egyptian goddess Sekmet.

[@NaquanGreen-zt4gr]

@@adriantepes4355 Orlox, I fear will become Nocturne's Alucard/Isaac (Netflix series) and have a redemption Arc (or more or less) be let go by are "Heroes" because he will help defeat Erzsebet Bathory. Predictably I see Richter letting go of his revenge and he & Orlox having a mutual respect for each other rather than Richter justifiably killing the monster that MURDERED his mother and countless other innocent people.

[@AxelVique]

These deviations actually made a lot of sense and brought the story to new heights. Best animated series on Netflix, besides Arcane.

[@gv82089]

Eh, some changes were unnecessary, like why remove characters like Grant or Julia? Or why make Hector a rape slave

[@mizushogun]

@@gv82089I agree to a certain point, but they’ve managed to make a great series out of the changes

[@TheAllSeeingEye2468]

I never played the games so i never knew about these changes

[@cailieisidro5758]

Never played the games but only knew a few. Well, because I did watched a little bit of Castlevania lore videos on KZbin 4 years back

[@Arkhuman11]

I like how when usually a movie/show adaptation derails from the book/game/comic source material people are in an uproar. But in this case people love both Castlevania shows regardless of the major changes and technically unfaithful representations from the some of the original story and character versions. I wonder what makes it work in this case.

[@RyuSaarva]

No Castlevania fans do not like the cartoons, there is less uproar because there are not many Castlevania fans out there.

[@Jisaacs91]

Still play Symphony of the Night from time to time lol Curse of Darkness wasnt all that bad either 🤷🏻‍♂️ tho i enjoyed both shows 👍🏼

[@raven772]

Isaac was a redhead. oh, wow, what a surprise.

[@jamiewalker8493]

Conclusion: the games AND Netflix series, are 10/10 masterpieces

[@sidewinder2057]

First seasons. Now it turned into woke garbage and gives you lecture on patriarchy instead of entertainment.

[@julioalvarado7308]

@@sidewinder2057how the hell did it go “woke”? Nocturne was great

[@thederp9183]

​@@julioalvarado7308they see black people and go mad 😂

[@jamiewalker8493]

I'm about as anti woke as it gets believe me but come on 😂😂😂 it touches on patriarchal elements sure but that is in keeping with the time period. I mean goodness me the big bad (and of castlevania 3&4) are women!

[@natanvizioli2545]

​@@sidewinder2057lol have you stuided past high School to know about the french revolution?

[@LloydRyannS]

the problem with Annette it won't be getting same impact when Maria meets Annette as a lesser vampire and losing a sister. yep they just swap with Tera (Mother) she choose to be a vampire to save Maria her daughter's life. but Annette was kidnap and transformed she have no choice which is sad ending. (in the game Tera is just a Nun who worship Belmont like God)

[@TevyaSmolka]

I really love the castlevania series it's really awesome and tons of fun.

[@Jay0Do]

Thought they would mention that they ripped the villains of Nocturne from Castlevania Bloodlines instead of having Shaft in the show.

[@tcrpgfan]

That was because they used Shaft in all but name in the first show.

[@akombalasau4022]

Im sure richter will be amazed to learn his ancestor trevor defeated death

[@toshio1334]

Annette literally got the Netflix treatment.

[@StormPTheGamer]

This series has been apart of my life since i was 8 years old. Wild.

[@Nhire]

Hah. I havent played any castlevania games, and normally I would be upset if I knew people change characters. As such, I'd probably not like the fact that they changed that psycho looking redhead guy (Isaac) into a a completely different looking black Isaac that we know. However, in the show, Isaac is quite easily top 3 coolest characters. SO its a win.

[@colossalweeb]

One thing about nocturne is that it's not really an adaptation of rondo of blood. It's more of an adaptation of bloodlines with rondo characters. I get doing rondo and especially symphony without dracula. But i think the exclusion of dark priest shaft kinda removes a lot of the identity of those games given how important of an antagonist he is

[@qDarkWolfp]

My guess with Shaft in the series is that is being represented by the abbot (Maria’s father). Because he takes Maria to use as a sacrifice and acts as the Forgemaster/Devil summoner, just as Shaft in the games.

[@thesamuraix881]

Not even the good art of Netflixvania can save it from butchering the plot

[@eviljoshy3402]

The way Netflix changed the character of Issac. At first I thought it was Netflix trying to add more bullshit diversity into the show but in this case I actually like the reworked version.

[@NaquanGreen-zt4gr]

@eviljoshy3402 Unfortunately the same cannot be said about Hector.

[@eviljoshy3402]

@@NaquanGreen-zt4gr They did kind of make Hector look like a pussy in the anime. Which is a 180 from the game Curse of Darkness.

[@jamesfraser6491]

When Richter was saying "the last member of the Belmont clan and I. KILL. VAMPIRES!" Felt so much like Trevor

[@ryanbennett2806]

Nocturne's vampire messiah (Elizabeth Bartley) is certainly different than the game....so far. My prediction for Nocturne is that this Vampire Messiah business will attract the attention of Dracula in some way. Or, possibly, a certain disgruntled vampire will 'warn' Dracula of this 'messiah' which he will scoff at as someone who believes in science over faith. Though they've certainly gone in a different, better, direction with Olrox in Nocturne I can easily see him 'tempting' Dracula with tails of the vampire messiah. As fans of the series know, Dracula is the oddity of vampires and the 'chosen' of Death. Or rather poster vampire. Though I do not see Dracula as wanting to 'overthrow' or fight the Vampire Messiah, especially as in the first series we clearly see he is 'tired' of 'small' vampires....I imagine he could resurface if she is killed to 'take control' and then becomes the 'new bad guy' with a new goal or drive. After all, we can safely doubt he turned Lisa when they were given a second chance, so he would have been on his own for a while. Alternatively, maybe after the Vampire Messiah (Elizabeth Bartley) is killed it is revealed that she was somehow connected to Dracula (as in the game she is his 'niece', however that worked). Dracula could swear revenge and Alucard could enter a sort of lull...depending on the scale, and how Dracula wants revenge. tl;dr - I will be mildly shocked if Dracula does not return as some sort of 'evil' or 'factor' in Nocturne as he is a constant in just about every Castlevania game.

[@SuperPianogirl123]

Dracula coming back as the main villain over and over gets old. Let other characters take over.

[@ryanbennett2806]

@@SuperPianogirl123He was the villain for literally a season. Even then it was setting up others more than focusing on Dracula. Least in the TV series.

[@LazySaiyan]

I worry that brining in other cultures' deities like Annette's power from her god ancestor and Elizabeta using egyptian gods for her plans is going to make the power structure of the series really messy.

[@MiniB79]

Wow,that was smart...

[@ivanmanongas1322]

What questions that needs answer on castlevania nocturne season 2? 1. What happen to the castle and the Belmont library? 2. Where is the morning star chain whip? 3. What happen to the village near at the castle?

[@ImTrans-Former]

Is it just me or are they replacing every redhead with a black person?

[@Wing-Zero-si1eu]

For me, the biggest change was making Tera Maria’s mom, while having her to look like Annette in her 40s. While having her to be turned instead of Annette, who could’ve been named Iris. If I was the producer for Nocturne, I would make Tera Annette, while making her Maria’s big sister. The 2 sisters were raised by their Aunt, after their parents were killed when Maria was only a baby. The Aunt, even did raised Richter, after his mom was killed, while also being BFF’s with Juste. Later after meeting Iris, who is the show’s Annette renamed. The Aunt dies saving her 2 nieces & adopted son from Orlox. By the end of the first season. Annette tells Richter to take care of Maria, as she stays to get turned by Elizabeth in front of him. This really traumatized him more than with his mother. This time he loses a girlfriend who he grew up with, after they & Maria became Orphans.

[@triad6425]

Not just slave from the Caribbean. She is from saint domingue which is modern day Haiti. 🇭🇹

[@ralfjones6419]

Just hope they bring Dracula as a villain. Can this still be called Castlevania without him? It's like making a show about Halo without Master chief or Devil may cry without Dante.

[@TheGalaxyMan99]

I hope they make someday the n64 game in a serie it has cool characters like reinhardt, carrie or even cordelius and henry and of course malus

[@ahbayat89]

I want Gabriel Belmont from Lord of shadow games !

[@utteero]

Wondering why the showrunners went out of their way to make the Church look evil even going against the source material to achieve this. Seems unnecessarily petty.

[@alphabrodien]

Probably because they wanted the audience to feel pity for the citizens who are being slaughtered. It’s easier to spark that pity when some higher power like a church is at fault.

[@utteero]

@@alphabrodien No. They could have done that without using the church as the face of evil. There was zero reason to do so. It would have been easier to portray the church as a force for good especially as it is consistent with classic vampire lore as well as in Castlevania lore.

[@DavidHussein13]

I could care less about the change , you know why…. Cause the show was f***ing AWESOME!

[@johnypanta6208]

Thank god they made the changes...only some designs work from the original game and most of them are just plain bad. The Netflix series has improved the storytelling and the characters a lot more and properly this time...

[@Aivottaja]

Also, Grant DaNasty is not a pirate. That's a common misconception because Dracula's Curse has a ghost ship stage and Grant dresses kind of like a pirate. He's an acrobat. His name is a loose reference to a rival family of the real Vlad Dracula called DiNesti.

[@MrPuzzles]

I'd love to see spin-off movies for the games that won't make the cut as full-on seasons or shows, like Order of Ecclesia and Portrait of Ruin.

[@neofulcrum5013]

I’m here for the overhaul of Annette to be honest. A damsel in distress with only two lines doesn’t seem that exciting.

[@benjaminfeld6388]

I personally kind of like that castle been you nocturne put a bit more emphasis on the historical aspect of the castle they use series. In most castle they gave games, probably due to the fact that story wasn't an important factor at the time, the historic setting served as little more than a background with hardly any influence on the overarching plot. The closest game to ever do that was Castlevania Bloodlines, since Elizabeth Bartley was responsible for started World War I as a way to amass human souls in order to resurrect Dracula, in the games universe at least. Not to mention the game finds a way to tie back to its Bram Stoker roots by mentioning that one of the heroes of the novel, Quincy Morris, was apparently related to the Belmont Clan.

[@rc59191]

Carmilla in Lords of Shadow 2 was 🥵🥵🥵🥵 WAYYYYY better than how she looked in the show.

[@Northstar_004]

Until she transforms 😂

[@jjvega6364]

The BIGGEST deviation from the game, for me, is how early Alucard returned. We aren’t supposed to see him until after Richter’s control by Shaft. It’s too soon, but Hollywood ALWAYS HAS TO f🦆 the things we love SOMEWHERE. Mario Bros Double Dragon Final Fantasy Silent Hill …it’s like these directors never played video games.

[@KTRamsey]

I do agree with this for the most part, however in terms of other adaptations, I did very much like the latest Mario Bros. Movie (please don't mention Bob Hoskins). What I think should be a heavy dishonorable mention to that list is the abomination they call the Resident Evil movie series...

[@gameskyjumper1721]

The funny thing is there is totally an old man/magician type of ally character in game just like Saint Germain. It's Alfred from Bloodstained: Curse of the Moon. This is like a sister series to the castlevania games.

[@johntumahab323]

Actually, I didn't have much issue with the character changes to Annette. Who I hated who got changed was Maria. Maria was supposed to represent a lighter element. Childlike innocence...naive but also pure. That was supposed to be the essence of why all the animals obey her. She was supposed to represent a pure and undiluted mentality of good and evil. In the face of all of these vampires pontificating about their order or monologuing about their past hurts, she was supposed to be the voice that said: "I don't understand all that...but I know you're hurting people. And that's wrong any way you look at it." And the thing is they COULD have made that work with the direction they took her. She's young and idealistic so of course she sees the world as only one way and everything as a right and a wrong choice. Of course she would see the French Revolution as nothing but good and be blind to all of the massacres and militarization that eventually arose as a result. And she would be telling everyone about how wonderful it would be to join the revolution because it "will get rid of all the bad people and help all the good people" and it would still be sound. But no...she got turned into a sour, grumpy, swearing, overbearing, preachy little snot who practically carries a soapbox around with her so she can lecture random crowds and tell everyone how things are with total impetuousness and arrogance like a Vampire Killing Lisa Simpson. That is the biggest part I hated. Would it have been so bad to have a character who was a lighter breath of fresh air mixed in with everyone else constantly being dreary, brooding, and depressed? Also, I miss Dracula. I missed him ever since the second season. And as a fan of the games, I'm a little irritated that they made one game's forgettable boss basically better than Dracula in every way.

[@cailieisidro5758]

Have to agree with you there. For Annette, she gained character development. I didn’t like how her original counterpart is Richter’s girlfriend who isn’t a damsel in distress. Making her a badass woman with color who fights to protect herself and others is what makes her one of my favorites. At least she also isn’t seen perfect as she would have moments of being impulsive that makes her emotions get to her. For Maria, I do remember her not only helping out Richter but also being nice to him. I do remember her pure and childlike innocence that shines the brightest light. In here, I didn’t expect her to be the complete opposite. I was surprised how they made her an exaggerated Wendy Testaburger and gave her a potty mouth. Honestly, I expected that with other characters but not her. Well, at least I like her design here than the sexualized green dress outfit

[@__Oku__]

I will say that I think they decided to lean into her more Tsundere-like qualities. Almost like she's putting up a front to hide her emotions. Maybe this has something to do with her being older in the show. But I think this might be part of her character Arc Idk. We're gonna have to see how her mother's sacrifice and transformation affects her.

[@tcrpgfan]

@@__Oku__ Their arc is learning what Richter already knew because of why his mom died: You absolutelt SHOULD NOT go into enemy territory without some kind of plan unless you are either stupidly lucky or just plain stupid. It's why Richter bitched about needing a plan before they hit up the palace... And what happened at the palace? They lost Edouard. Then Maria went into the cathedral without some sort of backup plan in case pear shaped things appeared and everyone else had to haul her ass outta there, losing her mom in the process and the only reason the heroes didn't get wiped out while saving her is because Alucard came in at exactly 11:59 on the fucing dot. They're going to have to acknowledge that if they want to stand a ghost of a chance against Elizabeta, they need a plan.

[@shadowslayer1985]

bitch please, Maria was annoying as fuck is Rondo of Blood was an annoying child, and is Sotn is an Ornament i prefer her here where she is not a tagalong annoying kid and more an action girl and many people hated Maria in Rondo of Blood because of her pretentiousness of helping Richter when her powers were still weak, at least in Sotn her powers improved and make the effort to find Richter also prefer they used Maria's design from Dracula X Chronicles Ayame Kojima's Design and not Rondo's design

[@NaquanGreen-zt4gr]

​@@shadowslayer1985 You must be misremembering Rondo of Blood and SOTN. Maria was a well-liked character in the games and only a few were annoyed by her.

[@fenrir6685]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think in the games Dracula never really becomes a good guy, and enters his 100 year reincarnation cycle so he can keep trying to destroy humanity, all the way into the 21 century. That has to be the biggest, most surprising change to the story.

[@billyboleson2830]

Game dracula dies and reincarnates as the protagonist and not dracula

[@Runo1923]

Rare Netflix W

[@trasegorsuch5140]

I want a new Castlevania video game!

[@thebarbaryghostsf]

Lots of modern Metroidvanias come close to the SOTN formula and the game Infernax is basically a modern Classicvania (8-16 bit era)

[@revengeofbcraig5755]

They’re making one

[@trasegorsuch5140]

@@revengeofbcraig5755 Are you sure it’s not another Metroidvania styled game that doesn’t have Castlevania’s story? Because I already know about The Last Faith.

[@revengeofbcraig5755]

@@trasegorsuch5140 I think I remember reading Konami is in the early stages of making a new one. It’s gonna be another reboot, not a continuation of the old games. I COULD be wrong, but we’ll see.

[@justasoulsfan9805]

Bloodstained is made by IGA and basically is Castlevania in everything but name. I can wholeheartly recommend it. Curse of the Moon 1+2 if you want a classic CV experience. Ritual of the Night if you want a true Igavania/spritual successor to Aria of Sorrow.

[@brunboiii]

Oh man, the "budget cuts"

[@Kickinthescience]

Castlevania’s adaption is better than these live action anime adaptations because they stuck with animation

[@gv82089]

It's a better show, but as an adaptation it's as good as the Street Fighter movie

[@lowang9708]

While people hated Alucard being Bisexual, i thought it's whatever, it doesn't seem to be important to me because we barely knew anything about Alucard's sexuality from the games anyway, However... it's Hector that bothered seriously, i wish they only changed hector's sexuality, that would've OK i wouldn't have cared, but they made him nothing like the game, for all the wrong reasons... dude destroyed giant dragonoids and defeated dracula and the game and went against the whole castle... but in the series tho, he's a slave to that bunch of hags ? That's literally all he was. Dude, they could've just removed his character from beginning, season three as a whole was a joke.

[@Wolfsbane909]

vampire hunter D set the bar that castlevania anime is...meh

[@SMToonSurprise]

To everyone reading this... It’s never too late to be whoever you want to be. I hope you live a life you're proud of, and if you find that you're not, I pray you’ll find the courage to start over. Stay blessed guys!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@deadpoolrockz6410]

Issac literally goes from Diavolo to Enrico Pucci based on design.

[@vic23211]

i hate pucci so much lol..too op

[@zachtwilightwindwaker596]

I am Richter Belmont. Last descendant of the Belmont clan. And I kill vampires! I wish Isaac was fabulous in the TV series.

[@mikeburkhart8336]

Hector the devil forge master was a badass in Castlevania Curse of Darkness. In the animated series he was a complete wuss.

[@ΓιάννηςΣιάνος-μ1θ]

Personally i like the changes they made in the anime adaptation , now it doeant feel like you repeatedly do the same thing over and over again ( killing dracula again and again ) , also the changes on the characters definately give them more character 😂

[@ademirmochi5423]

Pick an important character, makes her black, and people freak out, pick an irrelevant character, makes her black and more relevant, people freak out, going for the opinion of those that didn't liked the show because of that, apparently it seems people just don't want black people being relevant

[@johntumahab323]

I actually didn't mind the changes to Annette (aside from the clunky forced affection...how she goes from utterly loathing Richter to being attracted to him because a ghost told her to "give him a break", more or less). I was more ticked about Maria.

[@ademirmochi5423]

@@johntumahab323 I mean, what relevance Maria had in Rondo of blood truly, frankly speaking the pre-SOTN games were not really focused in story, so, whatever they do, as long it is an interesting story with the core castlevania feeling, is pretty good, I would be frustrated if she was to be vastly different once she is an adult if we ever see a SOTN adaptation, the one thing that can't change, is that she is the one to make Alucard stay and live with him.

[@Rafaeren]

​@@johntumahab323yeah thats the only wierd thing with her that came out of nowhere. But in the game she is just a damsel in distress i like her in the series. People just hide behind "they change a character" just to justify racisim