Top 10 Bits Of True Science in 3 Body Problem Explained

Science is hard. This video makes understanding it easy! Welcome to WatchMojo, and today we’re counting down our picks for the top 10 bits of true science in the Netflix series, “3 Body Problem” - to make sure you’re in the know. Our countdown of true science in "3 Body Problem" explained includes The Fermi Paradox, Nanofiber Weapons, Sophons, and more! What’s your verdict on “3 Body Problem”? And which bit of the show’s science are you most impressed by? Let us know in the comments!
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[@WatchMojo]

What’s your verdict on “3 Body Problem”? And which bit of the show’s science are you most impressed by? Let us know in the comments! Click here for more videos like this one! kzbin.info/aero/PLmZTDWJGfRq3s40oehF1PffOLxABjmXOt

[@vishalkalicharan7710]

Please do Top 10 Video Game Zombie Slayers!!

[@artificial-idiot]

3 bodies is 3 suns, not 2 suns and a planet like you suggest in the video.

[@crtslaura]

😂😂 facts

[@jp23x]

The aliens are going to reach Earth before Netflix gives us season 2 And 3

[@loladiaz3534]

😂

[@izaknothling4013]

😂

[@ElenaAsh5533]

So true

[@pintofm]

😂😂😂😂

[@_Woo]

Ah the truly unpredictable Netflix second season problem.

[@jameshawkins6201]

I am most impressed by the fact that Alpha Centauri is in fact the closest solar system to us and it is in fact a 3 star system.

[@zeffmalchazeen3429]

However, the Alpha centauri system is stable. Proxima centauri, the closest and smallest star has planets revolving around it

[@jimmymcgee9374]

@@zeffmalchazeen3429 That's because the system is a "restrictive 3 body system"

[@DewTime]

@@jimmymcgee9374what does restrictive mean here?

[@Thereal_Pranabindu]

@@DewTimethat its restricted

[@DewTime]

@@Thereal_Pranabindu what’s the cause of the restriction?

[@faiz461]

I love how sophon talks like a text to speech AI

[@darkorion69]

I figured that was done because that is what we can best understand within our limited frame of reference :)

[@bigkingspeakerdwestemperor5068]

I could listen to the Sophon voice deconstructing Grimm fairy tales all day.

[@yeongvoonkang1966]

Sophon: " we will teach you how to fear again" Best line in series for me

[@sphinxtan9158]

typical villain.

[@BeniBen]

Most impressive is that they got Bobak Ferdowsi, also known as the "NASA Mohawk Guy" to be in the show he was the flight director at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) during NASA's Mars Curiosity rover landing

[@jeripowell3736]

I thought that was him! Very cool 😎

[@GewalfofWivia]

The Three Body Problem released in 2008. In 2016 researchers discover the planet Proxima Centauri b in the trisolar system’s habitable zone, and in 2017 one technique of “Solar Amplification” was proposed and verified.

[@mateobarrett6829]

Alpha Centauri is not a system reflective of the "3 Body Problem." It is two binary stars orbiting one another, while a smaller dwarf start orbits those two stars some distance away. The 3 Body Problem described in the books (3 stars of equal mass orbiting erratically around each other) would eventually absorb or kick out any planet that formed nearby. Furthermore, the "Solar Amplification" of Radio waves is nothing but pure fantasy. Michael Hippke's Theory relies on a theoretical Quantum Transmitter to potentially take advantage of Gravitational lensing - thus using radio waves to do the same is strictly impossible. The 3 Body Problem is Science Fantasy, not "Hard sci-fi" like many of its readers claim - it is full of fantastical ideas that have no grounding in actual science.

[@keyneee1144]

Explaining how humanity's progress being very fast was the most imprssive thing to me. Even in this show is self aware of it. In this universe, They have successfully applied nano tech, cryogenics and nuclear propulsion theories in what I would assume is in the span of 1 year.

[@MikeMiles2013]

When. Scientists have all the funding because of the threat of a proven alien invasion, they are able to work faster because they can afford to!

[@keyneee1144]

@@MikeMiles2013 sophon episode when AI was explaining that humanity developed quickly in 100k years.

[@AlFirous]

@@keyneee1144Human can develop quickly because it’s altering tech/science from the past, also don’t have disaster that end civilization-yet.

[@keyneee1144]

@@AlFirous actually, technology developed quickly because of war/conflict.

[@AlFirous]

@@keyneee1144 Yup that's another reason or motivation. What I'm talking before is from technical standpoint.

[@monkat3759]

If Torchwood taught us anything. Remain unnoticed.

[@JasonDrWho]

Oh bravo, that’s excellent 👌

[@Tuinuiski]

At least in that show's universe the Doctor is around to save the world. I wonder how he would fare against The San-Ti?

[@themaninred33]

Spot on!

[@twinkiemp]

The human fruit roll ups cracked me up 😂

[@EnzoWithabenzo]

😉❤

[@Jay-n262]

It's about time Netflix put something good out.

[@kaseyboles30]

This is the second 3 body problem tv series based on the books. The first is from Asian TV. It's like "The Good Doctor" except I don't think that one started as a book series.

[@stuartwiner7920]

@@kaseyboles30 I watched a couple episodes. It felt too slow. Life is too short for me to watch 2 shows like that.

[@user-tp9bn8lp6t]

Netflix puts out a lot of good stuff... problem is it always gets cancelled before we get a fucking conclusion... RIP Mindhunter

[@kaseyboles30]

@@stuartwiner7920 Yeah I didn't get far into the Asian series, it dragged and seemed to project hopelessness. I've only seen trailer for the Netflix version.

[@senpai1628]

​@@user-tp9bn8lp6tmindhunter costed too much and didn't have the viewership. Also David fincher is a busy man

[@user-fc4lh1fz7x]

Nothing like reading the series. But a very good job done at keeping to the source material. Very rare and worth the time.

[@louisuchihatm2556]

I have just started reading the book, am at where the TriSolarians/SanTis have finally proved that there was never a solution to their problem. During Einstein's era. That in a given period of time, imminent direct collision was going to happen. The solution was to leave the system before then. I think I missed this from the series. I think the book does better in portraying the lack of the concept of deceipt by the SanTi.

[@UrukKing]

The books are among the best things I ever read. The series surprised me by not severely disappointing me. I would even recommend the show. But if you haven't, absolutely read the books! ;)

[@AlFirous]

I watched the Tencent rn after Netflix, after that I decide start from book 1 or book 2. Any suggestions?

[@User-gx3sr]

Book 1 for sure

[@User-gx3sr]

@@AlFirousall 3 books are on audible and are great readings by the narrator, if audiobooks are something you don’t mind

[@AlFirous]

@@User-gx3sr Thanks for your suggestions. Usually audiobook is not my things because English isn't my native language. I'm good at reading but not listening lol.

[@mateobarrett6829]

After hearing all the hype for the books, I tried to read them, since I love hard sci-fi. Yet this series couldn't be further from hard sci-fi, its purely science fantasy that requires the reader to either have very little understanding of actual physics or demands those with knowledge of physics to suspend their disbelief again and again and again. Clearly the author enjoys the idea of science, but doesn't have much of a grasp on it

[@spamfilter32]

The premis of the Dark Forest hypothesis predates Cixian Liu by decades. The basics of the premise where first developed in the 1960's. Cixian Liu expanded on it and gave it the name it now has, but sci fi authers have been using the concept for decades.

[@bananods]

I would like to read more about it, do you have any recommendations?

[@spamfilter32]

@@bananods Isaac Arthur discusses some of the predecessors on his discussion of the Dark Forrest hypothesis on his channel.

[@mr.m2659]

Nobody claimed it didn't

[@spamfilter32]

@@mr.m2659 toll

[@billgoldup9472]

@@bananods "The Killing Star" by Charles Pellegrino is all about this

[@sd-so2wm]

I liked it better than the last Season of Game of Thrones.

[@nicandrojeromeacdal7414]

pretty low bar

[@yoyozent]

That’s hardly a compliment

[@herald1953]

just wait until DB smuck get an offer to do Disney and they'd bail this show like GoT did

[@jp23x]

The books are complete so they have source material from start to finish. No reason to butcher the series

[@gynowhere]

@@jp23x "No reason to butcher the series" Witcher, Cowboy Bebop, Fullmetal Alchemist, Death Note...

[@josephkatz1982]

I adore the books and I love this shows version

[@TheKongShowJapan]

I LOVED the science and physics in this series! Not to split the atom but to unfold the multidimensions of a single proton (a sophon within the atom) as storage space in which an infinite amount of information can be stored and retrieved. Entanglement! Brilliant!

[@mateobarrett6829]

There is very little science or physics in this series. It is almost entirely science fantasy with very little grounding in actual physics, but hey, I guess if you don't understand the physics at play its easy to be wowed by the big words.

[@Mayakran]

@@mateobarrett6829 you can make your point without being a dick about it

[@mateobarrett6829]

@@Mayakran I'm tired of people claiming there's legitimate science in this series. It's pure magic fantasy and anyone with an understanding of physics understands this. Entanglement can't occur at FTL speeds, nor could a proton ever be "unfolded" in another dimension. This show has about as much science as Star Wars or Lord of the Rings

[@gregorykafanelis5093]

@@mateobarrett6829 entanglement can occur locally and that is how they made the Sophons. the collapse of the wavefunction also happens instantaneously. It is the famous EPR paradox, and the original paper and the latter reformulation by Einstein is a good read. The current understanding is that even with collapsing the entanglement you cannot transmit information FTL, but maybe what the Trisolarans did somehow circumvents that. Also, hidden dimensions at smaller scales is an active research area, you can look at Loop Quantum Gravity for more. It isn't farfetched to imagine a universe that somehow all those things are possible, as the show deals with physics way beyond what we know, but not prohibited by any law I can think of. cheers.

[@deshawnt1619]

look up string theory, thats what sophon is based off

[@user-ek8gj7my6y]

Fun fact:the TBP book one is published earlier than the dehydration bug been discovered.

[@sphinxtan9158]

fun fact: you lmao

[@tylergoodman3560]

This is a great list. 🎉

[@randomdaveUK]

I think the Wow! Signal was deemed to be a pulsar rather than aliens. If it's orientation were to "face" us it could emit a sustained burst

[@GamerPhilosophy]

What a great time to be a Scifi fan. We have great series and movies available: For Mankind, Invasion, The Foundation, The Expanse, Dune and Dune 2 and now 3 Body Problem. Great. 💞✌😊👍

[@chiraggowda4928]

It's already been established in Quantum theory that no useful information can be transferred between quantum entangled particles. So Sophons, in theory cannot be used for FTL communication.

[@jackieclan815]

Maybe we can but the trisolarans tricked you into believing that it wasn't possible

[@jackieclan815]

Maybe we can but the trisolarans tricked you into believing that it wasn't possible

[@summertyme5748]

That is their strategy exactly. Lol. And it hasn't been established that no useful info can be transferred between Quantum Entangled particles. No scientist would ever qualify 'information' with 'useful' either as that is a verbal copout.

[@sphinxtan9158]

Most of the technologies appear in this story are impossible.

[@mateobarrett6829]

@@sphinxtan9158 Indeed, unfolding a single proton around an entire planet is also pure science fantasy. A planet surviving an actual three body system (3 stars of equal mass orbiting around each other) for a meaningful enough time for a Type 1 civilization to develop on it is impossible as well. The list goes on.

[@Tuinuiski]

This is def one of your most interesting videos!

[@TheScepticalThinker]

The scene with the ship and when the Sophons arrived was absolutely impressive!! Would it be worth a try with the way of communication they used in the show? I thought that this was very creative.

[@Frankenstyleish]

No. Sadly that's not how entangled particle work. While their spin is affected instantly across any distance, there is no way to know when measuring the spin of one parietal occurs, meaning you don't know when the other particles spin alters. Information can't travel faster than light, and quantum Morse code doesn't work. Most of the "science" in the Three Body Problem is tiny bits of actual science morphed into nonsense for the plot to work. It's no more scientifically accurate than Star Wars or Lord of the Rings. All of them are fun to watch, but reality doesn't play a big part in the story. Opps, forgot to mention that entangled particles only work once. When you change the spin of one, which changes the other instantly, they become disentangled at that point.

[@ElenaAsh5533]

I'm in love with this show

[@Quentyn73]

And then they come and their fleet is the size of a pea, accidentaly eaten by a dog

[@bangbangstabby2017]

Douglas Adams was hilarious

[@mr.m2659]

I like the non canonical side story that claims the trisolarians are the size of a grain of rice

[@Doliios]

It's probably not. Thesy send droplet, that was faced by scientists and it was such a big spacecraft, and it was a drone send by bigger spacecraft

[@Quentyn73]

@@Doliios Where does it say it is "big"?

[@Doliios]

@@Quentyn73 during contact three of them was near the side of droplet, force of claw, holding droplet was 200kgs/cm2 what is quite strong force surely by big claw for big objects. Lab craft was designed for researching asteroids

[@Coryclemmings]

Also, the NASA Parker Solar Probe will get to 0.064% light speed in 2025 (700,000km/h)-the fastest thing we’ve ever built-so maybe the show’s 0.1% light speed isn’t so much fiction, especially when a lot of resources were being put into making it happen bcs of the alien invasion.

[@TheInterestingInformer]

They were aiming for 1%, not .1%

[@Pixel_FX]

@@TheInterestingInformer its very possible. check project orion. We can reach 0.33%. and 1% is reachable by solar sails.

[@TheInterestingInformer]

@@Pixel_FX ? Of course I agree. I’m just correcting the number cuz he made it seem like we are a lot closer than we are

[@Coryclemmings]

@@TheInterestingInformer my number was more than 100x lower than the show’s. What exactly is ur point? Even so, real life’s 0.064% light speed is still very close considering nasa’s objective here was not to travel this fast but to study the outer parts of the sun.

[@karan97732]

The Parker solar probe is around 200 kms/second which is the fastest man made object and they tried to achieve 3000kms/second which is roughly 1% of speed of light in the show. We cannot achieve that speed for atleast a century.

[@wanderer8243]

I like this type of shows. Give my curious brain something to look out for some theoretical science.

[@mateobarrett6829]

There is nothing scientific about this show, its pure science fantasy. You won't find any scientific theories here friend.

[@katutubong_nagger]

Wiil Downing resembles a younger version of Dr. Wells of The Flash, who developed the ‘Particle Accelator’ which coincidentally *ALSO* mentioned in this Series.

[@petera6984]

I'm working through the books now. Awesome read and series.

[@user-bi4ik6ze8b]

The aliens are tardigrades. That’s why they took exception to the “ squashing bugs under your shoe” comment.

[@aegyo9272]

So human misunderstood when they said 'You are bugs' it is not an insult but like 'Peace Bro', 'Sup Homie', 'Wakanda Forever', or whatever...

[@user-bi4ik6ze8b]

@@aegyo9272 Haha! More like “I’m not a bug. You’re a bug!” 🐛

[@bobhawke7373]

Yep. The Santi are actually petrified of the thought of man to man combat with technologically advanced human giants when they arrive. They can only beat us if their tech outstrips ours by far. Hence the sophons. Any human could stomp on thousands of Santi in ground battle. May I add though. The trilogy does not describe The Santi. We only find out they are basically a tardigrade like species in the unofficial fourth book by Bao Shu.

[@senpai1628]

​@@bobhawke7373 Fourth book is fan fiction I don't think it's their accurate description

[@bobhawke7373]

@@senpai1628 It's more than fan fiction. It's written by a respected author. One of the latest generation of major Chinese sci-fi writers, Baoshu has won six Nebula Awards for Science Fiction and Fantasy in Chinese, three Galaxy Awards for Chinese Science Fiction, and once nominated for the Grand Media Award for Chinese Literature. Three body X or redemption of time in English has the consent and then approval of the original author, Cixin Liu. Making it semi canon.

[@erkanarslan488]

alien probably will reach the earth before George R. R. Martin finish his Game of throne book :)

[@jonathanlopez6953]

book series…

[@procerator]

I quite enjoyed this show. However, there were some moments that were so dumb I wasn`t able to suspend my disbelief. Like, how would you align 300 nukes in space so that each one goes directly into a center of solar sail with timing so accurate that each explosion gives exactly the required acceleration to reach the next nuke? I am not a pro mathematician but it feels like exponential complexity so precision required is likely to be on the order of e^(-300) seconds. So even if you get Plank Time precision it can still be not enough to pull it off.

[@bitemyshite]

you had me at "some moments that were so dumb"

[@Thereal_Pranabindu]

Yeah its dumb coz the idea is to align them but like how far exactly? The whole journey? Alignment of the bombs means finding your way to the trisolaris fleet and then dropping off bombs from there backwards.

[@procerator]

@@Thereal_Pranabindu no, that part was I am quite OK with. Yiu don't need to drop the bombs all the way to trisolaran fleet. All 300 nukes can be within our solar system since the only purpose of them is to give a starship acceleration. The problem is that you can just "leave nuke in space". You put it onto some orbit. 300 object on different orbirs will have extremely low chance to align. See, in our solar system it is rare enough that 9 planets allign within 90° angle. Alligning 300 objects is mathematically impossible.

[@sphinxtan9158]

In my opinion, you have to be able to send a probe in 0.01c, before you could set this up. Just think about this, how is the last nuke going to reach its orbit?

[@bitemyshite]

@@sphinxtan9158 Why did you make me think about this!? It's better being ignorant and just assume were capable enough to cause an alignment of 300 objects in space in different orbits at the precise time we need them to align. 😅

[@Super33Saiyan]

😮 Finding out de santis are themselves tiny little bugs completely killed these alien's scary nature for me 😮‍💨

[@huntermitchell1886]

In the books the senti actually find the capsule with wills brain and make him a new body

[@Msvalexvalex]

Did they fake the launch failure? Or they accidentally find him?

[@eddieliu88hk]

Very mind blowing sci-fi

[@mateobarrett6829]

To quote a scientific critique of the series: "Very thought revoking ideas here." The book and the show are purely science fiction

[@lotobloom9768]

Am I the only one who likes sophone voice 😂 sounds calm emotionless yet soothing

[@yinnetteolivo]

Enrico was a rockstar!

[@konstantinkrastev4478]

love the show can't wait until season 2, not flawless but impressive and breaht taking

[@vishalkalicharan7710]

Please do Top 10 Video Game Zombie Slayers!!

[@mookerz1383]

I'm sure this is nitpicky, but the aspect of the show that I found hardest to accept was the premise that a civilization could even come to be in such a star system. The time scale it takes for planets to orbit their stars, and the time scale it takes for life to evolve from single celled organisms into ones that could develop technology on such a scale, are just too vastly different. Any life, if it could start to form on such a planet, would continuously get wiped out in its most infant stages.

[@mateobarrett6829]

Planets within an Actual "3 Body Problem" system described by science (3 equallly sized stars orbiting one another) would simply fall into one of the stars or get kicked out of orbit entirely after not too much time. Its impossible for any life to develop in such a system

[@electricminecrafter]

7:47 my main dissapointment with the book is that they could have used a weapons grade nuclear salt water rockets and gone to 3% lightspeed with current technology. EDIT: nevermind, the books were written in the early 2000's and the salt water rocket was theorized in the 2010's

[@randomrangoon5476]

The show was great and thought provoking. F around and find out vibes lol

[@jcinson5348]

nanofiber weapons is scary

[@summertyme5748]

You Tube *Neil DeGrasse explains 3 body problem.* Without even mentioning the show or book - he answers a lot of misunderstandings in these postings.

[@ryanreviews8566]

seeing thousand eyes actor in this show is enough to convince me to watch this lol

[@Ramkumar-uj9fo]

When I saw rehydration I understood they were tardigrades. --- Theoretically, computers can simulate chaotic systems accurately, but the practical limitations lie in the precision of initial conditions and the computational power required for long-term predictions. Computers can theoretically solve any coloring problem, but some may require immense computational resources or be impractical due to their complexity.

[@Coryclemmings]

I was skeptical of the stairway project and how I thought we didn’t have materials strong enough to withstand nuclear blasts but then remembered NASA’s recent Parker Solar Probe, which was made from materials with a melting point of up to 4,000 C. Still, nuclear blasts can go up to 100 million degrees Celsius, so maybe the skepticism here is still valid(?).

[@chrislui571]

Remember, it is in space, where there is no atmosphere. Igniting an atom bomb in space, there should be no blast wave, no fire ball; but it probably will release a huge amount of radiation and EMP. In theory (in the book), we use the momentum from the nuclear explosion to achieve very high speed, and theoretically this technology is current or near future we could reach. That's why the books are so much better.

[@Coryclemmings]

@@chrislui571 I misspoke when I wrote blast. It’s the heat I was really focusing on that would vapourise the cables of the solar probe, heat in its purest definition: high energy transfer bcs of temp difference.

[@ClimateDS]

​@@CoryclemmingsI think you still thinking in terms of having an atmosphere. Heat transfer works differently in low density environments. That's also why our common definition of temperature on Earth becomes less useful in space. I'm not saying that project is feasible. I'm just saying it's not enough to just compare thermodynamic temperatures to rule it out.

[@Coryclemmings]

@@ClimateDS I’m not thinking abt an atmosphere. Im thinking abt the materials: the cables, probe all made of atomic material that would get the heat transferred to it, which would in turn destroy it(?).

[@ClimateDS]

@@Coryclemmings Heat transfer in low density environments, such as space, is extremely inefficient, since there are hardly any particles that could actually transfer the heat. Other energy transfer processes, such as radiation, should be much more important.

[@aminarabshahi251]

One of book shown was game theory, I was hoping you mentioned that too

[@gregmarsters2434]

The "Three Body Problem" as presented is not seen in nature. Existing systems with multiple stars have what are called meta-stable hierarchical systems. That is where orbits become nested pairs of two-body problems. This includes Proxima Centauri. Although never observed, simulations of unstable systems show rather quickly bodies are ejected or nested pairing stabilizes the system.

[@LilacSreya]

That is exactly what the “problem” in the 3 Body Problem means.

[@sphinxtan9158]

God rolls the dice for eon, and the Trisolarian has been lucky for eon. XD

[@mateobarrett6829]

@@LilacSreya No, the 3 Body Problem ignores the fact that it would be impossible for any civilization to exist in a theoretical 3 Body Problem System (a system where 3 equal masses such as stars or planets orbit one another). In the case of 3 stars of equal size orbiting one another, as Greg pointed out, after not very long any planet within range would fall into one of the suns or be kicked out into the cold of space. The books rely on the reader's lack of understanding of the actual 3 Body Problem in science to conjure up some fantasy.

[@charlene1777]

Too smart for me Whoosh over my head!

[@mosesoyemade3478]

You forgot to add Syzygy

[@meouby2]

its a great show because it makes fiction deem possible through theoretical physic hence making it real and not just some lame magic

[@summertyme5748]

The books are much better, but agree that the show is worth watching. The MCU was science based for a minute within a fantasy context, but with QuantumMania they gave up. They literally hired a comedy writer to was literally the class clown - who didn't understand anything so tried to play it off as a joke. RIP MCU. 3BP makes Secret Invasion look like, well...a bad comic book.

[@mateobarrett6829]

The "science" of 3BP is utterly dubious. Its pure science fantasy with very little basis in actual physics, but since it uses big words to describe itself it often confuses the uninformed reader into thinking there is any science actually there.

[@johnjapuntich3306]

What about the two Sophons? The planet sized AI's they zipped up in an extra dimension, placed in a proton, and accelerated to nearly the speed of light and sent them to us...How did they slow them down? Without slowing them down, they just zip right by us... They didn't explain that in the show, is it explained in the books? As far as that goes, what powers them, now that they're here on Earth? They act like they can just magically zip around the planet at the speed of light...

[@sphinxtan9158]

Most of the technologies appear in the story have 2 level of explanation. This allows you to dig a little~ bit deeper. But look further, it breaks apart.

[@amydearing9866]

I thought they were saying “cellphones “ instead of “sophons “. I always had to remind myself what they were talking about

[@elieceralmario3814]

just wait till you see the dual vector attack 🙊

[@lynnchance8219]

Number 1 should be marked spoiler for future seasons.

[@tradmin]

better be “Quantum entanglement” as #2

[@JamieBentall]

The fact that during the communication between trisolarans and ye wenjie, another alien race already noticed this exchange.

[@tim2024-df5fu]

We can to get 1% light speed using gravity assist to sling shot around the sun and planets. Voyager one is nearly there but it took nearly 50 years. I think it's very doable since Voyager didn't have it's foot on the gas and we have 400 years to get it up to 1% light speed.

[@pingerboy69]

Epic show I hope more seasons hit ASAP.

[@PJSO]

Read the books too, I haven't been able to put them down since starting after the show.

[@pingerboy69]

@@PJSO Aww, I'm going to have to check them out, aye!!

[@89boopathy]

For me it's the Sophons....

[@skipfelts8889]

Larry Niven used the stairway concept in Footfall. More crude though and started from the ground. And only to get into orbit. Bellingham WA got nuked. They were not pleased..

[@loulahassan4191]

I believe some of the technologies in the show are possible in the real world, but they require lot of resources, talents and focus, the threat of alien invasion forces the world to do that, remember how big the Manhattan project was, it allowed us to harness nuclear power

[@bigkingspeakerdwestemperor5068]

Imagine a weapon with an F shape, in between the horizontal parts of the F is a Nano wire. Imagine the damage that could be caused by that...

[@tokyozombe]

I wonder how the sophons don't cause causality violations using FTL communication.

[@roastpork5437]

quantum entanglement is a real thing.

[@narcoticchaloopaful]

Quantum entanglement irl cannot transfer information. But it's used often as a tool in scifi for instant communication. I wouldn't dwell on it more than that.

[@mattyvx2622]

You can't use quantum entanglement to communicate FTL and this is a very common misconception, even in the scientific community. Measuring the spin of a pair of entangled particles may collapse the wave function of both instantaneously, but this is a theoretical interpretation and can't be used to influence or change the spin of each paired particle. Also once the wave function of each particle collapses, they are no longer entangled.

[@user-zz1zv8gg9e]

难道你对智子如何建造的不感兴趣吗？这可比超光速通讯更难实现吧

[@Benny-tx5qd]

@@mattyvx2622 How about Quantum Experiments at Space Scale?

[@Movies_shorts_10]

Waiting Season 2

[@harriettannediger8772]

I hate the way these streaming services jerk us around . One season then they pull it or delay it into infinity. People are dying out here you know.

[@AlcantaraMC]

Trisolarans can make a computer out of a single proton. But is incapable of FTL. 😂

[@enadegheeghaghe6369]

Those things are not related at all. If you can unfurl a Proton in higher dimensions, then a Proton can be much bigger to build on. That is a very different thing from breaking the speed of light which is like breaking a fundamental rule of physics

[@sphinxtan9158]

From a gamer perspective, they picked a wrong tech tree.😂

[@sphinxtan9158]

@@enadegheeghaghe6369 They broke the dimension. Speed of light is nothing when you reach that level.

[@electricminecrafter]

books were great but the timeline was erratic. the tencent version was good but was a bit long and had a lower budget but covers everything in the first book. the netflix version good and is higher buget but too short and misses some main points and science from the book.

[@jamesvaughn9059]

Is Trisolara based on Alpha Centauri?

[@haodeplorable266]

Yes

[@classictowers668]

My verdict is bought the books.

[@summertyme5748]

Smart. The show deserves props for that if nothing else. It's hard to get Americans interested in sci fi, esp now, when the country is so anti intellectual.... Alternate Facts and Science are mortal enemies.

[@JoeMikeMakes]

The 3 body problem is specific to 3 LARGE mass objects (IE: Three suns). Three objects (2 suns and 1 planet) are NOT part of the Three body problem. Binary systems exist in harmony and are predictable. It's only when you add another star (or more) that things eventually devolve into chaos and are not trackable.

[@Fatherfiguires]

Why didn’t they (San-ti) just set the visual timer on Wade or Clarence instead of Aug ?

[@mateobarrett6829]

In the Show, the San-Ti can hack / control every electronic device on the planet! Why not just crash any plane the heroes use? Why not just unplug humanity from our electronic devices entirely and send us back to the stone age? I guess D&D "kindof forgot" they made the aliens way more OP than in the books

[@facepie1354]

Rehydrate the masses!

[@iamPrinceK]

Hope for not get cancelled 🤞🤞

[@johne7100]

Looking forward to the Dark Forest. The Chinese production, that is.

[@HellCatt0770]

I think the San Te Ren/Trisolarans look like Tardigrades and aren’t much bigger.

[@StevenSiew2]

"I think the San Te Ren/Trisolarans look like Tardigrades and aren’t much bigger. " Damn! I was so hoping for sex with aliens.

[@stuartwiner7920]

Yeah, like super-intelligent hive-mind bugs. Very anti-climactic, IMHO.

[@ChiliJ]

The Dark Forest is a theory put forth by the books the show is based on. So it shouldn't be the number 1 in your list.

[@MrTrouserpants101]

thanks for the video, i had to destroy some of my neurology to comprehend this

[@sphinxtan9158]

physics doesn't exist, neither does science. XDD

[@mateobarrett6829]

Don't worry, this is all pure science fantasy. Almost nothing in the books or the show is reflective of actual science.

[@biruhtesfa8448]

Naaaaaah fool me once D & D, fool me once

[@huntermitchell1886]

In the books the snti actually find will brain floating in space and make him a new body

[@Froblyx]

The "Dark Forest" conjecture is little different from the conjectured "flying cars" of the 1950s (which led to car designers to put fins on cars), or Jules Verne's airship looking like a boat with helicopter rotors, or Lucian's "True History" of 2,000 years ago, envisioning a battle in space between, guess what, Greek-style armies. People just cannot get past their personal world views. The Dark Forest conjecture assumes that star-faring civilizations must be as territorial and aggressive as humanity in the 21st century. That's just stupid. But the scientific and economic requirements for interstellar travel could not be met by any species wasting its energies on internal warfare. Consider the challenge that the Staircase Project posed; it would have consumed a good fraction of humanity's stock of nuclear weapons, and it still would not have worked, because the nano-fiber cords connecting the sail to the payload would have been severed by the explosion. Nano-technology is indeed wonderful, but even nano-fibers won't hold their structure when vaporized and ionized into plasma. In order to accurate a capsule with a crew of ten people and their life support systems, communications gear, etc to 1% of the speed of light, we would need as much energy as released by a million H-bombs -- every Joule of it harnessed exclusively for propulsion. Then we'd need an equal amount of energy to slow down on reaching our objective. At the very least, putting together such an effort would require a level of social comity long beyond the primitive warfaring mores of humanity. Sorry, there cannot be any Klingons. Ah, but you want to conquer an existing civilization and colonize its planet with enough body mass to be self-sustaining? Then you'll need at least a billion times as much energy. Where do you propose to get that energy? The answer to the Fermi Paradox is simple: interstellar travel requires far more technology and energy than any society based on a planet can muster. And no, Star Trek ain't gonna happen. It's a story, not an analysis. The proof of this depressing conclusion will come from the angry denials that surely will appear, demonstrating a level of emotionalism that precludes any possibility of humanity reaching the level of rationalism required to pull it off.

[@microphonehead55]

If the San-Ti are incapable of lying, why would they say "You are Bugs"? Food for thought.

[@Fluffykunn]

Ah...thats why the "3 body system" bas become "popular"

[@randalparker4686]

I can prove it. If we send a radio burst, through a star, aimed at the planet passing behind the star such that the radio burst must pass through the star, you can send a signal to that planet through the magnetosphere.

[@randalparker4686]

You can target Saturn.

[@randalparker4686]

Calibrate for distance, frequency relation to star composition, size, speed on approach to star due to gravity, speed after star

[@GrantKanigan]

This show is unreal

[@hersh23]

Hopefully someone can answer this for me (I don't care if it spoils. Maybe I just missed it in the show?) So the brain that was going to be blasted using the Staircase Method to eventually intercept the approaching San Ti...how exactly was that going to work? What was the plan? If it's just a brain and no eyeballs (or maybe the eyeballs are also still connected to the brain), how exactly was the brain going to collect information to I guess send back to Earth so that way Earth knows what it's up against? or were scientists counting on the brain being discovered, somehow the San Te rebuild Will into some weird alien creature but the brain is still "Will" so it is now an Undercover alien amongst the San Te, occasionally reporting back to earth and sending messages using their own tech?

[@Venkateshstudio9]

You are right. Scientists were counting on the brain to be discovered and rebuilt

[@noneofyourbeeswax01]

They were relying on the San Ti reconstructing a human body for will, because we know their level of technology was up to such a feat. Obviously there was always the chance of a "Brain in a jar" scenario, but it is thought that the San Ti would be more interestd in having a properly reconstructed human. Given the situation, we were prepared to take any options available even if thhey were long shots.Will thought the same way.

[@nicomeneses886]

It's been mentioned a few times in the show that the SanTi still need some help from humanity. It could be for a better understanding of the environment they will be living in, or just with how to deal with humanity in general. It was also implied that the SanTi couldn't lie, so they are banking on that fact that the SanTi will try their best to use that brain to learn about humanity when they said they still need some help.

[@randomdaveUK]

In every event it's a very strange decision. Give the approaching enemy a brain to study and find weaknesses before they arrive while still not knowing any of the enemy's 🤷 The book that best describes what happens is the spin off "fourth book". Yes the body is rebuilt and Will sees the San-Ti and is essentially stuck with the fleet.

[@kcue9466]

the 3 Body Problem is about 3 stars where the planet is in unstable orbit.. 2 body problem is when the planet is in orbit with 2 stars

[@jimmymcgee9374]

Just because something "mentions" something in true science doesn't make the science true. For example, The Alpha Centari system is a "restrictive 3 body problem" which means it actually can be calculated and predicted. This is due to one of the stars being much smaller and further away from the others ;)

[@SlimThrull]

10.) It's not that the three body problem is impossible or even terribly difficult to solve. It's the fact that there is no simple algorithm to do. Computers have been able to model three body systems for decades now. 7.) While it is possible (at least theoretically), using the sun as a gravitational lens has a lot of issues with it. First, you'd only be able to contact someone that's on a line between you and the sun. Secondly, without knowing how far away they were the lens wouldn't be able to do much as the focal point would likely be too close or too far away.

[@sphinxtan9158]

7. But I don't think gravitational lens is really magnifying the signal. It is just distortion. For ET to receive the signal, signal strength is the true limitation.

[@SlimThrull]

@@sphinxtan9158 No, it's literally acting as a lens. it does magnify the signal.

[@sphinxtan9158]

@@SlimThrull Whatever. What I meant to say is that the receiver wants to amplified the signal, not magnified the signal. Gravitational lensing will do nothing for them if it is just bending the radio wave.

[@SlimThrull]

@@sphinxtan9158 Sorry. Physics disagrees with you.

[@sphinxtan9158]

@@SlimThrull Can you tell the difference between amplify and magnify?

[@deelee1569]

Nano-tech is the scariest sht ever

[@jorgeadairramos7469]

Hello good afternoon 😮😮😮

[@endoetz]

how can the planet be stuck with 3 suns? it must have happened recently or there would be no life on that planet

[@jesusromanpadro3853]

In the game, it appears that their planet has been there for centuries. But never tells us how their planet end up there. That said, I don't know if this is explained in the novels. Also, in the end this is still science fiction.

[@AxGryndr]

It could have started as a binary system, with a rogue gas giant entering the system, combining with the other gas giants of the system to form a trinary system. For example, if that rogue gas giant were approximately 12 times the mass of Jupiter, entered our solar system, and the two combined, this could lead to use being in a binary system. That would explain a sudden change. Given enough prediction and advancement, that civilization could devised a way to pass their advanced knowledge onto the next. In this way, the next civilization would get a head start. For example, imaging going back in time to the stone age with the knowledge of how to create steel and the mechanism to communicate it - that would drastically change the timeline for getting to the information age. Each successive civilization is caught in this unstable trinary system but each time they can add a little bit to the knowledge pool. Eventually, one of the descendent civilizations has enough knowledge and capability for a mass exodus. At this point, they just happened to get a signal to give them direction on where to go next.

[@theweirdestflex8436]

The planet could be in the system for billions or hundreds of millions of years. One star could have an extremely elliptical orbit. However, predictable movement is the three body problem lol

[@Coryclemmings]

I think ur point is getting at how anything could survive, much more, become a type 2 civilisation. My theory is that they were fine until they weren’t, but by the time they had three stars, they were already type 2. Still, just the heat alone should make the planet a soup of molten rock.

[@sphinxtan9158]

it is possible. Stars orbiting each other can be as far as a few hundred AU in distance. Earth to Sun distance is just 1 AU. There is definitely enough space to survive (staying out of heat). But to survive in a chaotic 3 stars system., it is pure luck. As the planet can be either ejected or falling into the star at any time. Normally it is extremely hard to last for hundreds of millions of years.

[@inception727]

Why did Santi lie to Mark Even because he taught them well 😅

[@lokeshsimha2]

considering the aliens are the size of bugs i think they should fear Gecko Lizard more than humans or use there sophans to make bugs and ants become intelligent considering there number humans couldn't survive if the bugs start a war by simply eating farm plants for fun

[@summertyme5748]

"considering the aliens are the size of bugs i think they should fear" Time traveling cockroaches from the future who built the insectoid galactic empire - laugh at the doomed arrogance of a member of a long extinct primate species.

[@Mangolite]

The Solar Eclipse is a San-Ti projection.

[@hakansaribal5093]

If you can imagine something, you can do it. I believe we’re going to build a multi planetary civilization in future. I needed this show. Thank you Netflix🙏

[@ishanvyas1990]

Any one from India can connect the WOW with OMM-OOM-OM-OM for Jaadu?!😅😂 🇮🇳🇮🇳

[@nyb_ok]

OM OM OM OM

[@loladiaz3534]

where did they get the radio to communicate w the aliens?

[@noneofyourbeeswax01]

The aliens provided the plans for the radio.

[@sphinxtan9158]

If you know the direction of the signal, it won't be too hard to build.