I love that every time i watch one of this guy's videos, I end up with a whole list of cards that I want. Seriously, this is the most criminally underrated edh channel on youtube
@edhdeckbuilding3 жыл бұрын
thanks man.
@darkyte53233 жыл бұрын
I have to agree 100%. I've maybe more than a hundred hours going over old sets looking for cards to power up my commander deck in a niche way and i STILL am like 'When did they print THAT' for a ton of these. Even for cards I knew existed, these videos kind of open my eyes to how useful they really are (which has been great for me just getting into commander xd!)
@moon_beast1382 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree!
@dahuntre3 жыл бұрын
Funny thing about Skullclamp, it wasn’t supposed to be this way. It actually boosted toughness in most iterations. But after playtesting was done, almost at the laast minute, someone changed it to +1/-1, and it fell through the final few cracks into print. Great picks as usual, farsight mask doubles as a budget slam dunk!
@josephconnolly84933 жыл бұрын
They felt it was too strong so they made it give -1 to nerf it at the last minute...that version obviously was never play tested :P
@walkingdonut13853 жыл бұрын
War room in a colorless deck
@Deamonic3 жыл бұрын
With Commander's Plate..... :P
@quinnquitars3 жыл бұрын
Tome of legends is such a great card
@brendan81143 жыл бұрын
additional note for skullclamp, it actually does have a mistake on the card, originally the card was going to give equipped creature +1/+1, but wotc thought that would be too strong so they changed it's stat line to the +1/-1, which is significantly stronger because it can function as it's own sacrifice outlet
@rowankeltizar59613 жыл бұрын
"I don't play planeswalkers...." I can relate sir, I can relate.
@floriancollin67396 ай бұрын
probably the best top 10 cards vid i've ever seen
@LordRazzia3 жыл бұрын
I also like Loreseeker's stone. Pretty interesting especially in a pure colorless deck where you have access to a ton of mana.
@apock24743 жыл бұрын
The thing about Clamp is the broken part? The +1/-1? That was added RIGHT BEFORE printing. It was a +1/+1 but they thought it needed a downside. And the rest is history.
@Just-a-Canuck3 ай бұрын
I know you are not gonna see a comment from a video you made 3 years ago lol. But thanks! Farsight mask is working its way into my sheoldred the apocalypse deck!!! Was looking for ways to draw more cards in my Thalia and the gitrog deck, but found that gem for Shelly!!!
@Not-The-Plan3 жыл бұрын
I have to thank you for this and the white card draw video. I’ve built a mono white voltron deck, and I’m putting in the immortal sun, war room, and inheritance as soon as I can get them.
@Dataloss4843 жыл бұрын
One reason why I only play immortal sun in ONE deck is that its so expensive moneywise
@dangoose95123 жыл бұрын
Proxy it for your other decks
@jackhatter45823 жыл бұрын
Me: we need more white card draw! Me: okay but colorless card draw...
@mr.mobboss11903 жыл бұрын
AAAAAANNNNNNNDDDDD bought the war room for Krenko. Thank you good sir!
@RobMedellin3 жыл бұрын
5:30 well... I sometimes have a planewalker or 2 (will +rowan), and in other decks I have a bridge more than a creature or a slumbering isle. I like jank. On the Kenrith Brothers btw I don't have a single creature. Having said that I think I'll totally use it on a couple decks with lots of creatures. Amazing card I didn't know.
@SackofDooDoo3 жыл бұрын
Honorable mention for "Infiltration Lens" for equipment and/or forced block decks, which costs 1 to cast and 1 to equip "whenever equipped creature becomes blocked, you may draw two cards." This and "Nemesis Mask" equipped to "Stuffy Doll" = someone takes a lot of damage and you draw a lot of cards.
@edhdeckbuilding3 жыл бұрын
got it in my gor muldrak deck. very underrated card.
@SwedeRacerDC8 ай бұрын
I do think Slate of Ancestry is severely underrated. It's easy to shut it down, but if you are playing the right deck it's a great way to respond to a board wipe about to happen and be more ready to rebuild. So much power there.
@alexvignolo77983 жыл бұрын
Staff of nin isnt played anymore because its 6 mana & artifact removal is rampant @ only 1-2 mana
@ninjagordo133 жыл бұрын
I'm curious about your "Patron of the Kitsune" deck, would you mind sharing it ?
@SnuzzleGrundle3 жыл бұрын
I would second this.
@edhdeckbuilding3 жыл бұрын
you're both in luck. i will be posting all my personal decks in the next couple of days. i've been working on it for the last few days. should be coming up soon, so stay tuned.
@base40373 жыл бұрын
@@edhdeckbuilding cool!
@ninjagordo133 жыл бұрын
@@edhdeckbuilding Thanks man!
@ThePetroglyph3 жыл бұрын
He: "Every Deck has creatures" Me: *smiling for my Aminatou Superfriends Deck without a single creature*
@johnbuscher3 жыл бұрын
The Immortal Sun is also in my Magda deck if I need to fetch a planeswalker stopped. Dwarves get bigger, card draw, and cost reduction. Perfect.
@feelsbad98123 жыл бұрын
This man just single handedly solved mono white
@TheSOULKNIGHTMARE3 жыл бұрын
Problem for using Mind's Eye to shore up draw in white is that it struggles to have the mana free for activating. It is also a terrible rate requiring too much mana to be good. 6 mana draw 1? 8 mana draw 3? its awful unless you are in a deck you find yourself with excess mana often ie not white
@edhdeckbuilding3 жыл бұрын
why do people do that? i think josh from the command zone started that crap. it's 5 mana. stop. 1 mana, draw 1. 1 mana, draw 1. 1 mana, draw 1. and so on. also the no mana argument is awful. you don't have 3 mana to draw 3 cards? so then a white sorcery that costs 3 mana and draws 3 cards is no good? you're using your mana to draw cards. in what way is that bad?
@njmaloney253 жыл бұрын
Skull clamp in a Locus God deck is a game winning card it is nuts
@AnthonyCettinaRealtor Жыл бұрын
Wow! This was so informative! Thanks for sharing
@warrennpeace11343 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see your Zurzoth deck you mentioned in the video. Would you ever make a video on it?
@edhdeckbuilding3 жыл бұрын
loving all the requests for my decks, because i got a special video coming up for 5000 subs. stay tuned.
@de2457333 жыл бұрын
I've lookdown upon warroom and endless atlas untill I've run it in my monowhite deck (which thrives on holding back mana), and dear god they are so good, makes the deck runnin butter smooth, would recommend.
@richardwagner44813 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love Staff of Nin in my Darien deck or any deck where you need to deal damage to your own creatures.
@dreddbolt3 жыл бұрын
Skullclamp works wonders in my Slimefoot, the Stowaway deck.
@hosersupreme3 жыл бұрын
lol, I was pretty actively playing during Mirrodin block and when this card hit, the meta swarmed around it and it got banned the week after I got to play my affinity deck with it in there at FNM for the first time. It was crazy
@joshuadenton3463 жыл бұрын
Someone who understands how great The Immortal Sun is! Even if you run a planeswalker or 2 it's good because opponents aren't gonna let this or the walkers stay on the board long.
@moedark43902 жыл бұрын
What good is Rhystic study if everyone pays??? Would you play a 3 drop enchantment that makes all your opponents spells cost 1 more? I might
@ildlyn89663 жыл бұрын
skull clamp in Teysa 1 mana draw 4.
@dariocampanella79923 жыл бұрын
I liked the channel. I think Im very interested in the patreon fox. I think I just love the artwork
@creamreviews16073 жыл бұрын
Opening theme song slaps!
@aryehshekhtman14772 жыл бұрын
Skull clamp was created instead of another card that was removed from the set in last minute so it didn't go through any play testing until it was too late
@raphaelho35513 жыл бұрын
If you're playing an EDH deck with your commander that attacks frequently (which tbh if you're in boros or mono red you probably are) I highly highly recommend "tome of legends".
@edhdeckbuilding3 жыл бұрын
agree. i almost included it. i ended up putting farsight mask on instead though because i always like to lean towards cards that people maybe haven't heard of.
@SwedeRacerDC8 ай бұрын
I think Howling Mine is one of the best colorless draw cards, but it really gets great when you can tap it for other things. Urza, Clock of Omens, and Improvise for instance break this card. So great. You have some good options on here, but I think this one goes above some of them. You do add the caveat that this is your opinion and that it's really about options, but maybe rename it. Maybe this title gets more clicks, so you stick with it, but I think that's where the comments will come back to bite you. Still I think it's a good list.
@aaronpyrez15733 жыл бұрын
Wow. As someone who only really got into MtG last year (before the pandemic hit), I didn’t know how crazy of an impact Skullclamp had when introduced. It’s basically the Dark Armed Dragon of Magic the Gathering in terms of making the player base plummet! Haha.
@gabrielfiorotto14353 жыл бұрын
I've found out that Mazemind Tome (currently played a lot in modern) is not too bad of a card for commander aswell
@adamgadbaw77473 жыл бұрын
I put skullclamp in my hapatra deck and play criptolyth rite. The snake tokens pay for themselves to be sacrifised it's literally free 2 cards
@TheDougWay3 жыл бұрын
Skullclamp got past the playtesting since it gave +1/+3 in playtesting so it was hard to kill the creature it was on and so they didn't draw that many cards. Then, they "nerfed" it to +1/-1, then made their biggest mistake of thinking it didn't need playtesting after that since it was "nerfed."
@kevinjooss93483 жыл бұрын
I always thought it was +1/+1 originally but I might be wrong 🤔
@zansumkai3 жыл бұрын
Really loving the channel! I thought your mono-white episode was very informative, and you've convinced me to try Book of Rass that I've been passing over literally since I started playing. I realize the other colors have more robust ways of drawing cards these days (even red) but personally I would enjoy episodes of obscure or underrated draw effects for the rest of the color pie if you're inclined Also, I might have some insight why you don't see certain cards. I can only speak for myself, but I play on a budget which usually means splashing for cards up to $4-ish depending on how much I want the card. Once it gets above $6 I will usually pass over most cards, and for other players with less of a budget restriction - and this is just speculation - they are more likely to play multiple colors or draw effects in the $20 and up range. That wouldn't leave as much market for cards like Imortal Sun except for people who already have and run it
@edhdeckbuilding3 жыл бұрын
i also have passed over book of rass alot. i'm not sure why, cause it has no limitations other than your life.
@zansumkai3 жыл бұрын
@@edhdeckbuilding Well I fit Book of Rass into my Crovax, Ascended Hero deck since it would like some more cards and is looking to swap life with someone anyway. Was able to get it out on turn 4 and it was really clutch, letting me leave up 3-4 mana for responses and then sinking it into drawing cards when nothing happened. I actually discarded a Skull Clamp to hand size late in the game if you can believe such a thing! I will say if I hadn't had it out early, or if my life total had been getting pressured more, it probably would have played a lot worse, but for this game it done good
@jasondavis1263 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work. Time to join your patrion
@crawdaddy12343 жыл бұрын
Ummmm...Horn of Greed isn’t Landfall. It’s when you PLAY your land (I.e., make your land drop). It’s good with Exploration effects, but it doesn’t do anything extra for fetch lands.
@gabriel262 Жыл бұрын
Blind obedience come up almost every night I play now. So that tapped clause actually matters sadly
@ruudvanlaarhoven57763 жыл бұрын
I'm missing Tome of Legends, it's less specific than Endless Atlas, probably. Mind's Eye is especially good in combination with Smothering Tithe. The thing about Mind's Eye in mono white is that people used to not have a lot of mana to spare to draw cards, because their ramp wasn't up to snuff either. Nowadays I think most people want their decks to be faster than 6 mana for your first card drawn. I still play it, but I've seen plenty games that are over by the time you're able to spare the second mana to draw a card from Mind's Eye. If Rhystic Studies is not drawing your cards, it's very much slowing your opponents down, giving you time to come up with another plan to catch up. If Mind's Eye isn't drawing you cards, you skipped your turn to put it into play, giving your opponents time to run away with the game.
@schlockfather3 жыл бұрын
I really doubt they printed the Immortal Sun just for Atraxa. It's probably more likely to be printed because it's an important relic from the lore of the game. And it doesn't see more play probably because it's a flat 6 mana you have to wait on to get any value out of. The reduction and +1 +1 are also really neglible at times in regards to that cmc.
@ruudvanlaarhoven57763 жыл бұрын
Also, it did see play in Standard, it was a great sideboard card against the planeswalker control decks. I've had FNM opponents scoop on me after resolving one.
@schlockfather3 жыл бұрын
@@ruudvanlaarhoven5776 I never said it didn't see play in Standard
@ruudvanlaarhoven57763 жыл бұрын
@@schlockfather the video did though
@Ashaman556 Жыл бұрын
Skullclamp was originally supposed to give +1/+1 but they thought it would be too good so they made it +1/-1.
@DrukenReaps3 жыл бұрын
I almost never see folks pay for Rhystic Study and keeping all that mana for Mind's Eye often just meant I couldn't cast the thing I wanted to cast. I mean if your group is always paying for Study I guess use something else. I'd say force them to use their mana for other things personally, muhahaha. Mind's Eye still has a place in my colorless deck though since options are limited for good draw.
@gtfawaynotnow Жыл бұрын
Oi, many of these options are too high on cmc. I can think of 4 off hand that would deserve more consideration: Sensei’s divining top Scroll rack Eye of vecna Idol of oblivion
@_jordaank_49703 жыл бұрын
I suggest to anyone to use slate of ancestry in a Krenko deck! I’ve drawn 20 cards before 😂
@KyleHM093 жыл бұрын
One that was missed is Tome of Legends. I love Tome of Legends.
@rathlord3 жыл бұрын
I get the point you're trying to make with Rhystic Study/Mind's Eye but either way Rhystic Study is still vastly superior. Study can pretty easily go out turn 2, and with a lucky draw turn 1 even. But more importantly- if your playgroup "Always pays" - and let's be real here, no they don't - that still means everyone else at the table is playing behind the mana curve for the entire game or until Study gets removed, which also takes removal away from something better. I'm not saying this because I love Study or what it does to the game- it's just true. I have own 1 copy and I do play it in one of my (40) decks, but over all I agree it's not a very 'fun' card for the format. But we can't pretend for a minute that Mind's Eye holds a torch to it as far as value. It is in my opinion probably the best value engine in the entire format.
@rufynarutoratman3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! May I know Patron of Kistune's decklist? Or maybe will you make a deck tech about it? Thx :) P.s. Sorry for my bad english
@edhdeckbuilding3 жыл бұрын
so many people asking for my patron of the kitsune deck, i love it. lucky for you i will be doing a massive deck tech with all my decks to celebrate 5000 subs so stay tuned.
@rufynarutoratman3 жыл бұрын
@@edhdeckbuilding Nice! Bravo!
@WinStrong853 жыл бұрын
Great content!
@davidgobert60514 ай бұрын
The Immortal Sun is op. Definitely going in my deck lol.
@BlakeJob93 жыл бұрын
Skullclamp was originally +1/+0 but they thought it was too strong so last second switched it to +1/-1 to nerf it and ended up breaking it beyond belief
@khristoferdickover89833 жыл бұрын
Immortal sun was most definitely played in standard. I played it in standard. It was very good
@shavedata54363 жыл бұрын
For those who didn't know, up until pretty late in design Skullclamp gave +1/+1, but someone decided it was too powerful so they "nerfed" it to +1/-1
@feelsbad98123 жыл бұрын
Just picked up slate of ancestry for my goblins 🥇
@abentevent3 жыл бұрын
I don't like immortal sun. Not because I want to activate my plains walkers, but if timmy across from me wants to use his walkers, he's got to shut off my 6 mana investment, often before I get to replace it. It probably wouldn't always happen, but why draw that kind of attention? I would play every other card on this list before it.
@edhdeckbuilding3 жыл бұрын
shutting off walkers is worth the attention for me. i hate them.
@nasaya773 жыл бұрын
Immortal Sun isn't even that bad with the WotS planeswalkers. They have static abilities, and you probably don't want to down-tick them for just that reason 🤷♂️ And if you have only 1 planeswalker, I think it's still worth playing even if you manage to hit the nombo (which is way more unlikely than you playing either separately game-to-game)
@ImaginationHobbies3 жыл бұрын
Really happy to see war room. Very good! I love your videos cuz your old school commander like me so you get a lot of things newer players miss. I started playing commander before it was official then they dropped the first 4 commanders. I still have my mimeoplasm deck and upgrade it every set. Check out my long-form deck techs on my channel if you have the time or are into card effectiveness discussions
@edhdeckbuilding3 жыл бұрын
i will check it out.
@josehaya63623 жыл бұрын
Divine Top is more card selection than draw, but at 1 cmc I think it’s better than most of the options here.
@edhdeckbuilding3 жыл бұрын
but draws you zero cards? so how is it better? this is a card draw list.
@josehaya63623 жыл бұрын
@@edhdeckbuilding you can draw one card, and put the top on top.
@cooliocoolio-g7v2 жыл бұрын
a bit late but roadside reliquary oculd easily go in this list nowadays
@bobbyvandyke143 Жыл бұрын
Slate of ancestry has won me endless amounts of games in krenko.
@jamesperry4593 жыл бұрын
Even if you have one plane walker the odds of having both immoral sun and your plans walker is unlikely unless you tutor for that walker
@MauroGarciaMJr3 жыл бұрын
Teysa and Skullclamp = Love
@blitzkrogg25893 жыл бұрын
Skull clamp = Banned
@mitchellglover77183 жыл бұрын
Top 10 group hug effects as the next video?
@edhdeckbuilding3 жыл бұрын
not likely
@schlockfather3 жыл бұрын
Affinity barely sees play in Modern anymore, but a few stragglers trying to keep the spirit alive play it. It's not really great in Modern anymore.
@edhdeckbuilding3 жыл бұрын
yeah i haven't played modern in a couple years so i wasn't sure.
@schlockfather3 жыл бұрын
@@edhdeckbuilding I gotcha, Mox Opal got banned a bit ago. It was a big nail in a coffin. Oh yeah and Krark Clan Ironworks I think lmao.
@edhdeckbuilding3 жыл бұрын
@@schlockfather wow, i had no idea mox opal got banned. so many cards get banned in modern and standard lately that things just get lost in the shuffle.
@manarager34133 жыл бұрын
@@schlockfather KCI got yeeted because of eggs, affinity got yeeted because of Urza.
@schlockfather3 жыл бұрын
@@manarager3413 Ah eggs lol. Second Sunrise did nothing wrong.
@crawdaddy12343 жыл бұрын
Locust God + Grand Architect + Skill lamp = draw deck
@henryhall2983 жыл бұрын
dude you know your shit bravo
@dantheminecraftmandtmm68213 жыл бұрын
Book of rass is currently way outclassed by eye of vecna
@edhdeckbuilding3 жыл бұрын
currently yes. but of course i made this list long before that came out.
@dantheminecraftmandtmm68213 жыл бұрын
@@edhdeckbuilding I understand. The video was 9 months ago just saw that when you replied
@dustinfindsrocks4 ай бұрын
What no One Ring ?!
@danzig89854 ай бұрын
lol this was made 3 years ago
@dustinfindsrocks4 ай бұрын
@@danzig8985 details... Oh yeah... lol
@blitzkrogg25893 жыл бұрын
Bonders enclave, mazemind tome, julum tome, jeymday tome, sunset pyramid, castle lockthwain, and staff of domination. Yes I'm aware I spelled some of these wrong. These cards are the best of the best. I may have missed 1 or 2 lmk what I missed.
@plain66773 жыл бұрын
Actually my favorite colorless draw is Ugin the ineffable. You usually don’t get the card right away but it’s also a removal and a pseudo-ramp.
@josecampbell72743 жыл бұрын
I added the 666th like. I am become death
@cantstopmygo4203 жыл бұрын
Dope, 1st
@xedet3 жыл бұрын
Almost 5 kkkkk
@shikabaneconga3 жыл бұрын
i always feel like its the intro song is like that tiktok dance where the guy does a pose and extends his arm and squats and goes up like a robot or a hydraulic press xD
@gamermomentshq95003 жыл бұрын
Ranking Mind's Eye higher than Rhystic Study 😂😂
@edhdeckbuilding3 жыл бұрын
is that what i did? pretty sure that list is colorless guy. last time i checked rhystic study is blue.
@gamermomentshq95003 жыл бұрын
@@edhdeckbuilding I'm well aware rhystic is blue and this is a colorless list. Maybe I got you wrong but to me this sounds a lot like you prefer a mind's eye to a rhystic study *when* you're playing blue. 12:51 "If you really really need cards I'm gonna rely on something like mind's eye that's gonna guarantee me a card rather than something like rhystic study (...)"' I get that there's no guarantee of drawing through rhystic, but generally you'll draw *a lot*. Even when your opponents agree to pay, it's most likely slowing down the game. If your point is to illustrate conditional draw vs. unconditional draw (I agree mind's eye isn't really conditional) and preferring the latter I totally get your point even though I think the comparison is a bit unfair Woa that was a lot
@edhdeckbuilding3 жыл бұрын
@@gamermomentshq9500 yep, if you really need cards, rhystic study can actually draw you zero. as i stated in the video, if everyone at the table decides to pay then you draw literally zero cards. not very good if you NEED to draw i would say. mind's eye on the other hand guarantees draw since your opponents are required to draw a card on their draw steps. you said "rank mind's eye higher than rhystic study" and than of course adding the laughing emojis to show how serious you were about your point. and i didn't "rank" rhystic study here at all. overall i would say that it's better than mind's eye yes. but there are plenty of people out there telling the world how fantastic rhystic study is in commander. we don't need anymore videos like that, so i try to give an alternative opinion about why you might not want to play it. that's what i do on this channel. taking the popular opinion is always the easy route.
@gamermomentshq95003 жыл бұрын
@@edhdeckbuilding Fair point. I think misunderstood with the way you put it. On providing alternative content, good on you. There's def an overabundance of content being recycled. Don't get me wrong, I like your videos
@iceicejay95693 жыл бұрын
Farsight is not a good card. paying 5 mana and some life to draw your first card is not a good investment what so ever. book of Rass is even worse. 8 Mana to draw 1 is horrible.
@edhdeckbuilding3 жыл бұрын
do you read the title? what's better in colorless?
@iceicejay95693 жыл бұрын
For some cards that expensive in mana I would prob turn to another of card advantage like Tamiyo's Journal, Ring of Three Wishes or Planar Bridge. these effect tutor a card to your hand which is essentially drawing a card but better and cost less. other card draw effect like well of lost dreams, coercive protal, mask of memories, infiltration lens, arcane encyclopedia, memory Jar, tower of fortunes, karn scion of urza and tome of legends. staff of domination is also a good pick if your deck can use it efficently even though Its a bit expensive. I dont remember every card you went over in the vid but these are all great replacements for the 2 cards I really had an issue with.
@edhdeckbuilding3 жыл бұрын
@@iceicejay9569 planar bridge is 12 mana to get a card, tamiyo's journal is 7 and you have to wait until your next upkeep. seriously you think that's better? staff of domination is 8, tower of fortunes is 12. you said that 8 mana is too much but now you're naming things that are even more expensive. your argument doesn't hold water at all. also book of rass is repeatable. so after the initially 6 mana its just 2 every time. farsight mask requires no mana at all after the initial investment. it just sits there and draws you cards. infiltration lens requires your creature to be blocked, and memory jar is only temporary. tome of legends is the only one i would give consideration for this list and it requires you to be attacking with your commander alot, so it only works in specific decks.
@105Strike1053 жыл бұрын
Lol everyone agreeing before game starts that everyone has to pay for rustic study is like the dumbest thing I have ever heard