If only Hat Grils were a bit more consistent. Would love to abuse them in Turbo Ray. They are easy to grab but only at higher and more likely to brick numbers.
@KashvinderMann5 жыл бұрын
Was looking forward to the stream and now I hear you're commentating on it, looking forward to it even more now! :) Liking the fact that Ultra Necrozma is your suggested deck to win.
@emmanuelzavala44325 жыл бұрын
Quagnag is fun
@TheFichek5 жыл бұрын
Its fun, but no answer to literally any grass deck, except Lost March :(
@naturalharmoniagropius44865 жыл бұрын
Lost March has Emolga
@Brandon-yr1uj5 жыл бұрын
Blacephalon has been winning most tournaments so how is that not a top deck
@camerondickenson88485 жыл бұрын
those tournaments didnt have team up legal
@jmarcus597985 жыл бұрын
Aerodactyl is something I wished worked
@Nitron20975 жыл бұрын
I have a list that's pretty solid but I don't feel like it's anywhere near meta. ****** Pokémon Trading Card Game Deck List ****** ##Pokémon - 17 * 1 Ditto {*} LOT 154 * 2 Oranguru SUM 113 * 4 Aerodactyl TEU 130 * 3 Slugma LOT 43 * 3 Magcargo CES 24 * 1 Inkay FLI 50 * 1 Trubbish GRI 50 * 1 Garbodor GRI 51 * 1 Malamar FLI 51 ##Trainer Cards - 33 * 4 Unidentified Fossil UPR 134 * 4 Lillie SUM 147 * 1 Rescue Stretcher GRI 130 * 2 Switch CES 147 * 1 Pal Pad UPR 132 * 3 Tate & Liza CES 148 * 4 Nest Ball SUM 123 * 3 Cynthia UPR 119 * 2 Guzma BUS 115 * 4 Ultra Ball SUM 135 * 2 Choice Band GRI 121 * 2 Shrine of Punishment CES 143 * 1 Fossil Excavation Map FLI 107 ##Energy - 10 * 4 Double Colorless Energy SUM 136 * 6 Psychic Energy 5 Total Cards - 60 ****** Deck List Generated by the Pokémon TCG Online www.pokemon.com/TCGO ******
@jmarcus597985 жыл бұрын
@@Nitron2097 I have a similar list. It just loses prize trades with non gxs. It's super fun when it works though
@naturalharmoniagropius44865 жыл бұрын
It won a Japan tournament with Shrine of Punishment, of course
@jmarcus597985 жыл бұрын
@@naturalharmoniagropius4486 it's pretty 50/50 with decks like lost March. Depends if you go first and can get set up. It's a big gamble for a big tournament. Pretty fun for locals though
@MeischelHD5 жыл бұрын
Let me tell you a secret: Charizard is way better than Blacephalon. But don't tell anyone ;)
@AlexH2745 жыл бұрын
Love this content, just got 2nd at my local 31 man cup with BuzzRocTales. I also have a long time friend coming back into the game. Any chance the channel could do a "top tier tweaks" for Q3 decks? Zapdos has really, as you called it, set the pace of this format, and I think seeing how people have been forced to adapt lists would be cool to see.
@CrackingPlastic5 жыл бұрын
No blacephalon?
@OmniPoke5 жыл бұрын
I do reference this toward the end of the video but It doesn't appreciate the wave of non-gx builds nor the pikarom Matchup
@REMfakeplastictrees5 жыл бұрын
harder to set up after trying to ohko a tag team.
@alexpotts65205 жыл бұрын
I think UltraSquids is becoming the new "discard a bunch of energy for big OHKOs" archetype, largely because Giratina gives it a chance to keep up in the prize race against non-GX decks. Blacephalon is too one-dimensional, Malamar builds are much more flexible because you can tech in pretty much any Psychic-type to them, plus even some non-Psychics like Eevee/Snorlax.
@AlexH2745 жыл бұрын
On the BuzzShrine deck, how do you ever get Giratina in the discard pile with only 3 ways to discard (ultra ball)?
@cowonavuwus87585 жыл бұрын
I still play superboost energy in my LM build to counter the potential wondrous labyrinth😄
@RiquFX5 жыл бұрын
just play stadiums
@naturalharmoniagropius44865 жыл бұрын
Play stadiums, bro
@Manorian5 жыл бұрын
Also helps the shuckle match up
@RiquFX5 жыл бұрын
@@Manorian nobody plays shuckle atm
@paouloagustin29065 жыл бұрын
Is lillie much better than elms in zoro variants moving on to team up?
@jakegearhart5 жыл бұрын
I've been playing Zororoc a lot, and I think Lost March is at least in the close category if not in the favorable. They're just not consistent enough. If you judge them and take out their Hoppips before they evolve you win. Not to mention they need to find an energy every turn.
@rhysgofton20725 жыл бұрын
That is false lol. The matchup is very winnable for lost march.
@jakegearhart5 жыл бұрын
@@rhysgofton2072 I haven't tested with someone irl, I've only tested against it online, so I could just be running into bad players, but I've played against probably 10 lost march decks and only 1 beat me and only 3 in total were close games. I play 3 Enhanced Hammers in my list, so what I normally do is just constantly target down Hoppips and if Natu attacks, I can just E-hammer their DCEs and Guzma or Bloodthirsty Eyes a Hoppip.
@lycanzone4 жыл бұрын
Ah the days when lost March was good. Wish I was there
@Simon-fm5gy5 жыл бұрын
Why aren’t you playing Jirachi in the malamar builds?
@OmniPoke5 жыл бұрын
Defending EagLe many other decks are trying to capitalise on the use of jirachi so I don’t want to have that weakness
@陳于亘4 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know if these lists only include Sun and Moon 10? Or does this list go above than that? Like 11 or 12?
@OmniPoke4 жыл бұрын
There is a more recent Top 10 video on the channel (produced before the LAIC) and an up to date top 10 will be produced this month!
@SuperGewal5 жыл бұрын
Im the only one who thinks Charizard is actually way better than most of those decka mentioned at "Outside the top 10"??? I even think Charizard should be in the top 10 :) expecially with Flareon. Most Gx decks are smashed by this deck.
@lilgiantrobot61694 жыл бұрын
Fun to revisit this in mid-20
@sempha41235 жыл бұрын
Passimion Koko can beat the Venusaur/Jirachi deck relatively easily if you tech in Lost thunder Victini and either rainbow energy or a single fire. It 1HKO's it with choice band and a full bench.
@kingwailord41435 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised only 1 mill deck was mentioned. looking at this list, I see mill beating 7 out of 10 (quagnag, zekrom and malamar being annoying to deal with). Although some other decks outside of the top 10 like naganadel variants, gardevoir and it's self give it headaces its still very good at dealing with a lot of the format. I think if brought to the right tournament the archetype could easily win if you can avoid the players using heavy energy acceleration.
@benlagercrantz14315 жыл бұрын
I think zecrom is a good matcup if you play wilord gx but lost martch is prety bad seens thye can chain marchado
@kingwailord41435 жыл бұрын
@@benlagercrantz1431 zekrom is still quite rough because they can get a lot of energy in play really fast even with wailord or snorlax tanking you can still struggle to deck them out, its possible but not an ideal match up. Lost march on the other hand can beat you if your playing tag teams, but without them its quite easy win as you can take all of their energy fast and force them to overextend with cards like steelix and shuckle.
@blackenedsprite85425 жыл бұрын
It's because no one likes mill.
@alexpotts65205 жыл бұрын
Omnipoke, how viable do you think TurboRay is?
@ElGiganto175 жыл бұрын
I heard him say decks like Rayquaza, the fast aggressive ones, are too similar to the likes of PikaRom but just worse. I think he likes them regardless but feels other decks just do the same thing better. I think he said the same for Blacephalon.
@zigzag4285 жыл бұрын
I think this video are on decks with Team Up cards in it. That may be why there is no Blacepheion, Granbull, etc.
@deadmaniac04725 жыл бұрын
Is there a chance silvally gx could come back? I feel that it tanks good hits and hits many decks for weakness
@AlexH2745 жыл бұрын
Quag Nag has a Very Favorable MU with Blacephalon, which is a big deck
@chandelure14205 жыл бұрын
Most pikarom run other pokemon. It is flexible enough to not use pikarom.
@merijnverduin2725 жыл бұрын
Im trying out some gardevoir with zoroark and its supersizingly good
@fawgzlpljjiybouhgwxu73212 жыл бұрын
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@juanfranciscocastillosaave69505 жыл бұрын
In the same way much people believed Buzzwole was out with the rotation. They believe Blacephalon cannot win with tag Team. Among all Decks besides Ultra Mally (too much Granbull still by the way), Blacephalon can one shot everything. What did Buzzwole needed after rotation? Beast ring, what tech granted it tops again? Alolan Ninetales for consistency. Well. Same tech can even inprove Blacephalon so much. I discovered it keeps consistency and throwing Beast Ring in Blacephalon is way more powerful.
@Gridia4445 жыл бұрын
Beast Rings have always been in Blaceph. The issue is with Tag Teams being so beefy and the played ones are fast. They can drop enough damage to KO Blaceph before it can reliably get set up to drop the 5 energies required to KO a tag team.
@titan25405 жыл бұрын
Does ZoroDeci even need Fairy Tales any more? It feels really consistent with PokéComms.
@OmniPoke5 жыл бұрын
Titan you can go for a pure Lillie ball comm list too! Ninetales is a quality attacker vs many non go builds though
@thecrimsontiger56945 жыл бұрын
I’m new to tcg, just got my first deck (new charizard deck) should I buy more starter decks or keep buying start packs ?
@LoLTerminus5 жыл бұрын
Packs. Never buy the decks unless you’re just playing to lose. Buy packs mostly
@speedtechrc5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to make this video, very insightful
@JamesAndrewA5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for some great deck examples for me to test out.
@chandelure14205 жыл бұрын
I run tapu fini gx as my attacker in quagnag.
@iLLiDaN305 жыл бұрын
Where is Vileplume stall? It got amazing Matchups vs half the top 10..
@OmniPoke5 жыл бұрын
The video was made pre OCIC before plume started popping up, hindsight is 20/20!
@AlexH2745 жыл бұрын
No guru in Lost March? That's Nutz
@jacobdominic71575 жыл бұрын
imma play zoropod cause im a senior
@TheRealBlueSwan5 жыл бұрын
In online standard tournaments it seems like most people are still playing Blacephalon.
@Gridia4445 жыл бұрын
Online Meta =! IRL meta
@ateacher69835 жыл бұрын
In this meta, unless people are not playing Alolan Muk, Sigilyph-GX is a valuable deck. With the push for OHKO, Sigilyph's Ability puts you in the power seat. I know some may laugh at this, but there are builds that opponents don't know how to deal with well.
@marktaylor49625 жыл бұрын
Alolan muk gets a lot better in this format and I would expect it to see slightly more play, although probably not outside of zoro lists.
@oursischr0me5 жыл бұрын
I agree, Sigilyph GX is a sleeper of a card. I keep one in my Zoroark/Banette deck, and it's very effective at keeping my opponent quiet until they can dig a Guzma out of their deck.
@GoOKuSj335 жыл бұрын
Dude Blacephalon is number 1 in menace
@LOLiTrollYouu5 жыл бұрын
No blacephalon or Ray?
@justinkomesar87575 жыл бұрын
Is this an omnijoke, or are you omniwoke?
@MrLevelminded5 жыл бұрын
Can nothing but a rotation stop zoroark?
@joshua96mago5 жыл бұрын
plis top 10 decks in expanded :)
@jesusmarin90355 жыл бұрын
deck list sableye?
@phenomenalstqquint51495 жыл бұрын
ZoroDeciTales will win^^(I hope....)
@micheleschiraldi8945 жыл бұрын
A control mill deck will win another IC basing on this list
@OmniPoke5 жыл бұрын
Michele schiraldi pikarom and zapdos jolteon are the main decks in its way
@MashBrettato5 жыл бұрын
No Granbull ?
@briankent22505 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this breakdown! This is awesome!!
@forestskilbred94615 жыл бұрын
Could someone explain why Emolga is run in the Lost March deck? Thanks in advance.
@Gridia4445 жыл бұрын
Deck thinner + on demand Pokemon com/ultra ball fodder.
@forestskilbred94615 жыл бұрын
Thanks! @@Gridia444
@theinfernohippo67055 жыл бұрын
I use them with poke comms plus you can lost zone them away
@zzone56265 жыл бұрын
NO DECKLIST?
@isaacsantizo-johnson29185 жыл бұрын
Buzzshrine is very easy for zoroark with magcargo. You draw what you always want do not have to play as many items and can cycle acerola and only really need 1 zoroark and a cargo
@OmniPoke5 жыл бұрын
early buzz pressure and weavile usually overwhelms zoro variants from what i've seen
@isaacsantizo-johnson29185 жыл бұрын
OmniPoke good zoroplayers just out pilot the deck
@OmniPoke5 жыл бұрын
@@isaacsantizo-johnson2918 Good BuzzShrine players just win because they are favoured
@jakegearhart5 жыл бұрын
Lost March really needs to play Machoke with Ditto ◊ to try and stop bench damage.
@JustInBasil5 жыл бұрын
JakeTheGearHeart I prefer Sky Pillar as it helps to win stadium wars. Wondrous Labyrinth {*} and Black Market {*} are both really bad for Lost March.
@jakegearhart5 жыл бұрын
@@JustInBasil But nearly every spread deck runs a stadium to counter sky pillar. Machoke can't be countered without Guzma-ing it up and KOing it which gives you extra energy on the board and more time to setup attackers.
@alexpotts65205 жыл бұрын
@@jakegearhart Machoke is super clunky though. It takes away a bench space you might have wanted for an Oranguru or Marshadow. It takes up two deck spaces and takes at least two turns to get going. And Ditto doesn't give as much value in Lost March as in other decks because it doesn't count to LM's damage when in the Lost Zone.
@GrenadR5 жыл бұрын
Granbull is dead?
@mansmo95135 жыл бұрын
Manectric Bats!!
@calebrogerson1085 жыл бұрын
What do you think about Marshadow GX in Ultra Mally?
@OmniPoke5 жыл бұрын
Caleb Rogerson I think having 190 is better in zoro matchups because it’s hard for them to reach, so I’d just stick with the ultras
@calebrogerson1085 жыл бұрын
It mainly for the PikaRom matchup
@ElGordoBandito5 жыл бұрын
Marshadow GX can lay the smackdown on Pikachu Zekrom, but so does Ultra Necrozma. I think in builds running 3 Ultra Necrozma a Marshadow GX is easily swapped in, but otherwise focusing on Ultra Necrozma still wins that matchup regardless without giving Zoroark an easy 2 prize KO during your other matches if you start it.
@alsaiduq43635 жыл бұрын
I think Charizard gonna pretty good. Zard deck has good matchup against anything that has GX in it and even GX-Team up it can Two hit KO or even OHK ( Celibi&Venusaur for example ) while giving only one prize.. The problem is Low HP non-gx. Lost march is pretty hard , for example.
@titan25405 жыл бұрын
Problem is non gx is really popular atm
@nathontrimberger79615 жыл бұрын
Why no granbull
@OmniPoke5 жыл бұрын
it gets caught in the crossfire of more Muk being in play with Zoro, Pikarom can Snipe through you and is a surprisingly bad matchup and ultra mally is much better vs you with 2 tina in the list, thier sky scorch is usually KOing both Magcargo
@alexpotts65205 жыл бұрын
I'm really sad to see Granbull drop out of contention. Thing is people were playing Alolan Muk mainly to beat Granbull, it may well go in cycles where people stop playing Muk because nobody's playing Granbull, and that will encourage people to start playing Granbull again. That's how metagames work.
@Elite4GamingZ5 жыл бұрын
Thunder bros is definitely not the best deck lol. So many decks auto beat it
@SummonerAnslin5 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry it's not pikarom the deck is named Thunderbuddies
@tehkuzio5 жыл бұрын
just wanna say i prefer escape route over switch in zapdos variants.
@jarrettplaysviolin59925 жыл бұрын
Omnipoke I love your videos and how detailed you are. Thank you