Top 10 Most Difficult Card Moves According to Erik

[@StompyFPV]

I studied that opening sequence of Shade, and bought the DVD for the bonuses too. That switch to Tenkai is beautiful. One of the few moves I still use to this day.

[@amartyaarkane777]

I had put off learning the one handed top palm and erdnase one handed shift for a long time siting it as difficult. After watching this I was super motivated and ended up learning it last month!

[@SeanDevine]

Can we talk about how good Eric's double turnover is??!

[@GiacomoAdamo-n1o]

hey sean hello

[@SevenTheJester]

I mean... _you_ can talk about it. I feel like I don't have the qualifications to even talk about how good he is. 😂

[@raumaduth]

Excellent points. Dr Green is my hero. Erik is brilliant and his advice is on point. I agree 100% on his take on the double lift and the snap deal! great stuff

[@littlelegend5133]

Great Video! Kind of baffled me that there was nothing from the trilogy, if an octopus could palm, the anti faro or impossible card magic by ray kosby (raise rise)

[@Nomad_Skateboarding]

If An Octopus Could Palm isn't difficult, it's next level! So good. Such a big fan of Dan and Dave before the commercialism. (No judgement on them, just I'm no longer into it :)

[@Chidie]

Excellent video. It was great that you spoke about the DL.

[@modularcuriosity]

When I lived in San Diego there was a group of magicians who had a regular poker game. You were allowed to cheat, but if you got busted you had to sit out the hand and forfeit whatever money you had in the pot. One magician would do a variation of the Punch Deal by using his sharpened thumb nail to nick the ends of all the aces, face cards and tens in the deck. After a dozen or so hands he would have the deck punched. When it was time to deal if he felt that nick he'd 2nd deal to everyone else and keep that card for himself. So he was essentially only playing with aces, face cards and tens.

[@brettf2779]

The Lenert Green on the Snap Deal is currently out of print.

[@seanfaherty]

That one handed open shift -I've only used it under fire once . Another magician was burning my hands when ever they came together...as soon as my hands separated he looked away and Boom . I was pretty happy. I agree 100% with your thoughts on the double lift.

[@TheRussianGenius]

3:57 "so it's not mine to teach here..." I hear that a lot, and it's surprising that when knowledge is put into the community, but unpermitted to share. It worries me in terms of : 1. growth potential of the community. 2. knowledge will die out. 3. regarding 3:57 I think most of us card handlers have thought something similar about that exact move he's talking about, and I wish he would've just continued cause there's millions of brains going into evolving these moves and people have alike ideas.

[@penguinmagicshop]

In this instance he just means that he's not going to stop the video and teach it here. Most magicians share the contents of The Expert at the Card Table without hesitation. The author has passed away and the book is well within the public domain. In addition, there really aren't any magicians performing the Erdnase One Handed Shift as the highlight of their stage act. It's not like they are making their livelihood from that singular move. So, Erik just decided not to teach it here. Alex Pandrea actually has a great tutorial on the move available here on KZbin if you'd like to learn it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/g6StfICJa6yrmKc To your points: 1. The Erdnase One Handed Shift can be learned in one of the most popular card books of the last hundred years. If people want to learn it it's easily accessible. 2. As long as the Expert at the Card Table is as hugely popular as it is now, people will be familiar with its contents. The knowledge in that book isn't in danger of dying out any time soon. 3. He could have taught the move but this isn't a video that is about teaching moves. It's already 35 minutes long. If he broke down every move it would be extremely long. Erik goes live on Instagram every week teaching moves in depth from classic books. He is currently walking through the chapters in Expert Card Technique. With that said, there certainly are things that we shouldn't be sharing without the proper permissions and crediting. Mainly out of respect to the creators of magic. Unauthorized sharing, lack of crediting, and blatant exposure has prevented many magicians from sharing some of their material including the likes of Kevin James, Steve Fearson, Robert Harbin, and Franz Harary. If we don't pass along our knowledge it does have the possibility of dying, but if we share someone else's creation without permission we risk alienating some of out most creative minds from which we can learn the most.

[@dustinfoxmagic6383]

Gamblers palm revisited is the booklet I believe for the mcmillian switch

[@booman77377]

Ayy Simon Lovell shout out. Love that crazy shuffley wuffly wombat of a man.

[@magicoemerson]

Great content as always guys!

[@AstonishInc]

Spring change gives me trouble to this day..... 12 years later. The clip shift can sod off too!

[@malhcone8868]

I believe that Daniel Madison has a video on the MacMillan Switch on one of his masterclass series. Great video as always!

[@penguinmagicshop]

Madison covers they Muck Shun, we haven't seen him talk about the MacMillan switch. For this move you really want to go directly to Jason England. He teaches the move on a download, on the Unreal Work, and in his lecture notes.

[@malhcone8868]

@@penguinmagicshop He has a video titled "A Macmillan Card Switch Idea". madison.cards/collections/madison-training-vidoes/products/the-madison-masterclass-collection

[@penguinmagicshop]

Yeah, he's not doing the MacMillan switch there. He's doing a Ross Bertam Tenkai Switch and calling it a Macmillan Switch. The MacMillan switch starts in a gambler's palm, the corner of the card slips under and helps the tables card into a deep palm. The cards run against eachother as the switch happens. The cards never enter Tenkai. You can see the MacMillan Switch exposed here at 2:22: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eHutoqStg5qgeac Madison's move switches a card from Tenkai to Tenkai with very little contact. It looks nice, but he's mistitled the move here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l6Std4h7j657g80

[@Alpysf]

Wow, I’m really proud of myself right now. I can literally do every move in this list at an at least passable level, except for that windmill move, which I had never seen. And that Spanish train move thing, I guess doing 3rds for years and studying Marlo’s wave changes really helped me more or less do it after that little explanation. P.S. The clipshift ain’t that difficult, Erik. Just watch (and rewatch) the Chad Nelson video till you figure it out. I think I watched it 12 times over the course of 2 years, till it just clicked. P.S. 2: the pamphlet you were talking about where the McMillan Switch is first taught, is Dan McMillan’s “Gambler’s Palm Revisited”. Awesome pamphlet, though it is quite hard to get. There are lots of fun stuff in there, but the “One Handed Turnover Switch”, or the way it’s now more commonly known “TheMcMillan Switch” is the most famous part of it. On a side note, Daniel Madison has a version of it as well, which look more open from a certain angle, and is much easier, though it is overall more angle sensitive. He published it in quite a few places, I think first at his “Surface” dvd, then at I think his “Mechanic” dvd, and later at his “Erdnase X Madison”. I don’t recommend these, as there are a lot of crap moves in them as well, but I think he has a free tutorial for this particular move on his KZbin channel as well.

[@olliejoker1862]

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[@mattym4451]

I'm not a super talented card manipulator, but I put in the hours to get the clip shift down seamlessly and with both hands so I can fake like I know what I'm doing for a few moments before I don't catch my top shot and send a card flying across the room or I drop half the deck doing a revolution cut 😂

[@austinlang4540]

I found the windmill double on derren Browns dvd

[@keithmitchell1374]

Whaaaaa???!!! If the One-Handed Top Palm made it then surely the Diagonal Palm Shift should have at least made honorable mention. Seriously, though, this is a GREAT list with plenty of practice worthy moves/utilities. Shout out to Howard Hale (used to own the magic shop off of Midway in Dallas) who was the first person I ever saw do the One-Handed Top Palm. I learned the Windmill move from the DVD you guys mentioned - great DVD!

[@eriktait434]

Hey! I probably should have given DPS an honorable mention, but TBH I don't use it that much. I have other things I use instead. But you make a good point.

[@joshburch36]

I disagree the DPS is much easier to do than a One Handed Top Palm in my opinion. Case in point, I can do a passable DPS and cannot do a One Handed Top Palm worth beans. I would go as far as to say that a DPS is easier to do than a second deal, a classic force, or a classic pass.

[@SuneWorld]

Awesome!

[@igorsvacic217]

htf is one handed top palm on any lists of hardest moves? I mean, if its 500 hardest moves okay but.... put here undertow from bucks and lateral side steal from ee, put rays riser and mllion stuff before like eight of ten of these moves

[@mattpeters4700]

I am convinced clip shift is easier with small hands because its a move that, while difficult did not take me as long as some other moves to learn.

[@eversosleight]

Awesome moves! You can do an inverted table faro for modern cut cards by lining them up and picking upward while applying pressure toward a corner.

[@seanfaherty]

Thank you for that. I've been trying for twenty years. I'm a slow learner

[@jonahberg9280]

what about the diagonal palm shift

[@penguinmagicshop]

That's definitely an advanced move but Erik considered it to be easier than the other moves discussed in this list.

[@tryller007]

I might be wrong on this, but I think the double lift belongs to Daryl, since he publish a very close method on Encyclopaedia of card Sleights vol 5? Anyway great video :D

[@PyroSsd]

Special addition: The Clipshift

[@chayagarfinkel4739]

ray cosby raise rise is one that i still cant do sadd

[@dalesenior7255]

For some reason I found the snap deal was one of the easiest things I've learnt. sorry for blowing my own trumpet