Top 10 Most difficult Recruits in Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time

In the video I'll be taking an in-depth look at the 10 most difficult recruits in Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time. The top 10 is based on a number of Recruit 'em All speedruns (both with and without Wondermail codes).
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[@rayzuke1232]

The most difficult pokemon to recruit is cresselia. Its so hard to forgive someone who ate 40 Reviver seeds

[@NAPZ.Entertainment]

LMFAO

[@Crrool]

Accurate XD

[@Kali_Krause]

Dude, I got Cresselia after eating 3 reviver seeds. I just straight ground my Snorelax and Torrterra.(I had Munchlax and Twertwig as my partner.) Last time I played this game, they were both level 100

[@rayzuke1232]

@@Kali_Krause That is what we call lucky

[@RoachOfBabel]

Is it weird that im level 46 and i did the entire darkrai thing without spending a single reviver seed?

[@jessealexander3346]

Let's be all be honest, we all knew Kecleon would be number one when we clicked on the video...

[@Crrool]

Yeah, that wasn't really a questionable choice. Kecleon is just by far the worst recruit.

[@Anthonyvideogame]

Yes I knew

[@circle3565]

Like, even Bulbapedia's recruitment page specifically mentions you need literally every trick in the book to have a 0.2% chance to recruit Kecleon

[@Crrool]

@@circle3565 It's actually only 0.1% with every possible bonus, so it's even less than that

[@circle3565]

@@Crrool Well damn

[@danielsimmich1858]

Now this is the kind of content I like to see. PMD is sorely underrepresented on KZbin :(

[@AceFaz]

There are only a few people that still upload content from it here, and the channels aren't really huge either, one of the main ones is "PMD Gang" with only a few thousand, But they upload some of the best regularly, they even gave us a way of recruiting Primal Dialga,

[@soulglitcher]

@@AceFaz Yeah I really need to try that sometime.

[@AceFaz]

@@soulglitcher I got one months back, and since they're never updating that game, you will probably be able to do it whenever you want

[@soulglitcher]

@@AceFaz Yeah, I would've done it already, but I somehow lost both my DS's at the same time, so I can't really play it.

[@AceFaz]

@@soulglitcher wait- did you bring both of them somewhere, or did you lose both of them in 2 seperate places...?

[@729MendicantTide]

And to add insult to injury, you have to track each recruit you have already obtained yourself. At least Sky was generous to color the recruitment message differently if you already have one of that species

[@isenokami7810]

Then again, since it might take a while to evolve guys, I already do this.

[@ilias-4252]

.1% doesnt mean you need 1000 kecleons to get 1...actually there is a 50% chance that you will have gotten one by the time you have killed 693 kecleons. There is also a 36.7% chance that you wont get one even if you kill 1000 kecleons.

[@Alphabet576]

It does mean that, assuming that the recruitments are independent events, the average number (ie. expected value) of Kecleon you need to murk before you successfully recruit one is 1000.

[@ilias-4252]

@@Alphabet576 I don't know what expected value is could you explain(mathematically)? Also my math is correct you can do them yourself. The probability of not getting a kecleon is 99.9%, the question is how many do you need to kill before recruiting one(assuming you stop at the event of recruiting one). This is written as (0.999)^x=y and it represents the probability y of not getting a kecleon after x attempts. Letting y=0.5 the probability of not getting a kecleon will be=0.5 so the prob of getting a kecleon will also be =0.5 (1 - 0.5 = 0.5) solving (0.999)^x=0.5 will give you x aprox =693.

[@Alphabet576]

@@ilias-4252 your math is indeed correct. Expected value is just the numerical average of the random variable's value over all possibilities. Say you flip a fair coin 100 times, the expected value of the number of heads you get is 50. But if the coin is rigged so that each flip is heads 60% of the time, the expected value of the number of heads becomes 60 instead. Here the variable is "number of attempts required before Kec is successfully recruited" and it is equal to 1 with probability .001, 2 with probability .001*.999, and in general n with probability .001*(.999)^(n-1). This is known as the "geometric distribution with parameter .001." Its expected value is 1/parameter, in this case 1/.001=1000. So the expected number of Kecs you need to beat to recruit it is 1000. But it can be more or less because it's a random process.

[@easternwoyer3876]

I got it 1st try

[@AceFaz]

Yeah, you don't NEED To do 1000, But u will if u want some decent odds of recruiting one.

[@jadetboi]

I just completed a recruit em all in darkness (no wondermail*), and this list holds up very well to what I experienced. I got exceptional luck with the seven treasures legendaries tho. I suffered so much recruiting Unown-W, Y and Z as well as failing 6 pichu recruits (I was using a level 100 fast friend with golden mask and my own service fish throughout the whole process). All the spacial rift recruits sucked, lunatone and solrock come to mind specifically. Grinding for levels on abomasnow, waillord, bronzong, and purugly was really boring too. Kecleon also took multiple attempts in Mt. Horn (I had to run zero isle south a few times to get a mobile orb for it once i realised how tough it was to stay alive). My IGT was around 98 hours, so I would guess my actual time was like 110-120 hours (I did this over 9 months this year on and off) *it was no wondermail apart from the seven treasures, no way to access the missions without wondermailing it in time/darkness

[@jadetboi]

I also forgot, jirachi is a pain exclusive to time/darkness as it is a very low % recruitment rate in final maze on floor 21, meaning you can't bring in the golden mask and have to purely rely on level and fast friend (I didn't even have fast friend as I intended to use jirachi as my fast friend user because chikorita is so overdone and i wanted my playthrough to feel different). It also loves to hide in water so sometimes you just cannot access it.

[@Crrool]

I actually completely forgot about Jirachi. That should've been up there, and pretty high too. I've lost a run once to not recruiting it 13 times in a row, losing me several hours. The 7 treasure codes are allowed in the no wondermail speedrun ruleset for that exact reason btw. I gotta admit, 98 hours IGT is pretty impressive for a casual attempt :)

[@frootloopthechatot9766]

Out of the 3 explorers games, which one has the best chance at recruiting all pokemon aside from arceus?

[@Crrool]

Only in Sky can you get every Pokémon. Time doesn't have Mewtwo and Shaymin, Darkness doesn't have Celebi and Shaymin

[@frootloopthechatot9766]

@@Crrool ah ok. Thanks for clearing that up :)

[@jalendelgado4042]

I love that there are still people that acknowledge the brilliance embedded within the concept of The PMD games. Definitely going to sub.

[@jexjexjexjex11]

For me, I found Jirachi one of the hardest to recruit, since you can’t really bring any recruit boosting items in the Final Maze

[@Crrool]

Yeah, I realised later that I forgot to put Jirachi on the list. Its definitely up there as one of the worst recruits in the game and it really shouldve been on the list. Just didn't think about Jirachi when I was preparing for this video

[@jexjexjexjex11]

@@Crrool That is okay. I thought you excempted the pokemon from the list considering the much more easier recruitment in PMD Sky.

[@dutchminers66]

@@Crrool im sorry folks

[@zweettarts3769]

It took me 20 tries to finally recruit Jirachi I was loosing hope lol

[@Horystar]

I'm sp glad to be a Sky player

[@steelformrarity4590]

This is so cool, I loved playing explorers of time as a kid and beat it a few times but never made it to being able to evolve pokemon. I didn't know there was so much more content I was missing out on

[@Crrool]

The game is huge, especially when it comes to recruiting everything. Even with Wondermail the current record is over 38 hours to complete it, so it's no small feat. :)

[@alduintheanti-dragonborn]

Hilariously enough I got Pichu as an egg from a Poochyena that gave it to me after drinking at Spinda's cafe.

[@DarkShadow8754]

This is why I avoid having drinks at cafés, you never know if a random person smiles at you, gives you a baby then runs off.

[@Missingno_Miner]

There is no pain greater than having a driftloon harass you by spamming unburden ominous wind on floor 49 of sky stairway. The ghost types camping you in the walls(Who tf thought that was a fair gameplay mechanic?) don't help either. It took me weeks to get my underleveled ass through that dungeon when I went through it for the first time, and I didn't even get Rayquaza. Seriously, it's still one of the hardest dungeons that don't put any kind of special restrictions on you imo. Long, big floors, no rest stop, boss fight at the end, and the hellspawn that drifloon is in the mystery dungeon franchise.

[@Crrool]

Yeah, having a mobile scarf really helps midigate the camping in the wall. That said, I agree, its a rough dungeon. The long floors, many ghosts, and then the boss only being 50% to recruit makes it just aweful

[@gingerkays7362]

I’ve never gone through Sky Stairway, but I know exactly what you mean thanks to Super. Unburden minimize makes Drifloon an absolute nightmare when you’re first traveling to Lively Town via Sheer Mountain Range

[@Kali_Krause]

That's why i went Munchlax lol

[@aubreyh1930]

@@gingerkays7362 oh god the ones in super aren’t nearly as bad

[@AceFaz]

Well, Just get a Drifloon with that same ability and Ominous wind, overlevel it and uno reverse them all-

[@Feral174]

I've seen so much of those low spawn rate pokemon by accidentally stepping on pokemon traps, not activating them, then throw a lot rocks around then activate it. Used pikachu to grind xp

[@Crrool]

Thats actually not a bad strategy. Will have to keep it in mind for the next recruit 'em all

[@aikou2886]

Thank you algorythm, you finally recommended something that was both useful and enjoyable.

[@The_Viridian]

The issue with Kecleon is that you basically have to shiny hunt to get it. There are some shiny hunting methods that are way better than 1/1000. Then again, if you have good stats, killing Kecleons is faster than most shiny hunting methods.

[@sialia385]

This was a fun video! Thank you for keeping Pokémon Mystery Dungeon alive on KZbin :) Also, Chinchou/Lanturn is my favourite pokémon of all time

[@_Teej_264]

Great video. Makes me want to play my DS again

[@Crrool]

Glad to hear you enjoyed it

[@IIxIxIv]

Hey I've watched at least one of your speedruns in a marathon, glad to see this category is alive

[@DedicatedCaffeineUser]

I honestly didn’t realize how lucky I was to have recruited a few of these Pokemon simply through them joining me after I completed their request on the Job Board while playing through PMD EOS when I was still working on my 100% completion run. I might pick off where I left off soon but I really don’t wanna go to Aegis Cave again to recruit Unown and get all their stones too.

[@Crrool]

Recruiting unown doesnt have to be too bad. If you want to hunt them down, look for floors where the letters before it are missing (so if you need F and C, D and E are missing the odds of finding it go up significantly). This is especially true if the missing letter is in the name of the regi (so I, C and E for the Regice floors)

[@DedicatedCaffeineUser]

@@Crrool thanks for the intel! It’d probably also help if I came back at a later time instead of doing it while the post game story is still in full swing, but I can be rather stubborn at times lol.

[@MozzarellaCheez]

Dang, I didn't even know you made videos like this, but it's nice to see some pretty informative, agreeable content getting produced for this game. I feel like I remember you prompting me for the ten hardest Pokémon to get in this game, and I probably just answered, "Porygon, Porygon2, Porygon-Z" lol. So at least this captures a fair amount of variety in terms of the challenges we face. There's like 50 Pokémon or something in this game that are difficult just because of 2% spawn rates so it's hard to only pick 10 hard things. Also I'm glad this footage shows Infernape strats, Time ReA WM is literally the only category where he gets to shine, and it's a shame because he is extremely fun to go fast with in PMD2.

[@Crrool]

I don't remember asking you directly for it, though making the video had been on my mind for a little while, so I might have in stream at some point or something XD

[@HermitTFG]

In my recruit them all journey, kyogre took me around 7+ time through its dungeon not having anyone with double speed that was high leveled enough to go through. So I had to grind constantly through the dungeon with my party having the item that priorities water Pokemon recruitment. I must have gotten extremely bad luck cause with rayquaza I had gotten the recruit first try. The others like picku, abomasnow, bronzong, Milotic, and porygonZ were also difficult (especially level ups), but luckily wasn’t as harsh give or take making you restart a dungeon so many times. Kecleon is the worst. As of me putting in this comment, kecleon is the last Pokemon I need to recruit and am most certainly making a video for my process. Your video explains it perfectly why he sucks so bad. I am leveling up a mew for fast friends ability. He’s at max friendship so I have the ability, it’s just now having to grind for hours to get mew at level 99-100. I believe I’m at 80ish at the moment, but has been a process.

[@Crrool]

Good luck on getting Kecleon. Its a tough one for sure. If you want a method of leveling a bit faster: check the mission board for "golden chamber" missions. Especially relatively early in a dungeon. Save the game before going in. Grab the 2 treasure chests in the golden chamber (need something to cross water) and before saving again, open them. Every chest is a 1/8 chance to be a golden seed. If you get 0, reset back to the save. Every golden seed is instant 5 lvl ups so you can get to lvl 100 with just a few

[@HermitTFG]

@@Crrool I heard about golden seeds but didn’t know that it raised by 5 levels! Thanks frickin crazy, will definitely do that. Whenever I make my video I’ll make sure to shout you out for the tip :)

[@HermitTFG]

I was considering of getting every single item in the game as well. Also I’m playing in sky not time. Have beaten time before though. I’m assuming sky has more items but probably not much besides gummi stuff

[@Crrool]

Good luck on the grind. Hope you'll get lucky and get those golden seeds fast. Sky has a bit more content then Time, but the differences are generally small. I've never played Sky though so I wouldn't know them in much detail.

[@HermitTFG]

@@Crrool I recommend it, you get to see when grovyle and dusknoir go back to the future. Won’t spoil, just really good. The other extra stories and the shaymin ark are also really good

[@nerobiblios4086]

I guess I was lucky, I recruited a Kecleon once, when I was a kid. I dint even know you could only get them by stealing from the shop, I just stole something and killed a few that were blocking the stairs, and boom recruited one.

[@Crrool]

That is a really lucky recruit for sure :)

[@eline8087]

and you also just happened to be carrying a golden mask, had a pokemon lvl 99-100, and that pokemon had the IQ fast friend? Not saying that couldn't happen by coincidence, but...

[@RocketPooch]

@@eline8087 Golden mask or friend bow? Do either of them work? If it's only golden mask... where do you find them? I don't remember if I have one or not haha.

[@eline8087]

@@RocketPooch Golden mask gets you the highest added percentage (I think it goes up by 20 or 25 %, friend bow only goes up for 5), and you can find them on a high level floor of one of the zero isles. It's probably easier to look for a wonder mail online that gives it though XD . This is for pmd sky/darkness/ time, if you're talking pmd blue or red, there's only the friend bow.

[@smashssf2_ssbc15]

Happy to have a Pichu in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon

[@user_Z-]

thank you crrool really enjoyed this video

[@williamfrieden1]

Great video, yeah, they are hard to recruit, keep it up!

[@SpoopyChicken]

I know primal dialga doesn't count because it's a bug but if he was on this list it'd probably be 8th or 9th, not because getting it is super rare from the wonder mail trick (I got mine on my 5th try) The thing that makes getting primal dialga a pain is actually re-typing the wondermail code each and every single time you need to do it so it ends up taking forever to get.

[@Dukstless]

2:08 - I believe the spawn limit is 14. In Rescue Team Pokemon are spread more thinly so no floor hits that limit... but that has its downsides, like trying to find Pidgey or Exeggcute in Howling Forest. By the way, doing something with 0.1% 1000 times gives you... 63.2% chances of at least one success. You still have about 1 in 3 to get fucked by RNG.

[@Crrool]

Sounds about right. I know there's a cap, don't remember the exact number. Lanturn stops blinking when attacked when the cap has been hit so thats always a quick way to know if you can still get more Pokemon. As for Kecleon, that's the major issue. In my best run (the current with Wondermail WR) I got Kecleon on the 99th attempt, but I've seen it into the several thousand before as well. Its just stupid tbh

[@criskooo2802]

How did you came up with 63.2%?

[@Dukstless]

@@criskooo2802 1-(A')^1000; or in layman's terms, one minus the opposite scenario happening 1000 times in a row.

[@criskooo2802]

@@Dukstless ok thank you, man i really wished to know more about probability, that's so interesting

[@pokedude720]

Granted, I'm not that familiar with the categories, but I was expecting Darkrai to be on the list somewhere; considering that it only spawns in 5 dungeons, 1 floor each, requires the Mystery Part or Secret Slab (which I assume would be hard to get in the non WM category), and has a -22% base rate.

[@Crrool]

Darkrai definitely deserves an honorable mention. Its pretty consistent to see though and one of the dungeons it spawns in has a ton of rare recruits (porygon, bronzor, lunatone and solrock) so you usually go through it often enough to easily recruit it along the way. Its a bad recruit, its just that some of the others are worse imo

[@henk8105]

Super interesting video!

[@Flash_Fire36]

I remember dealing with unknown at that after game, story moment. And kinda annoying because of certain unknown being hard to get. It took a while for that to clear.

[@RyanRogersJSR]

Wait a second these videos are so cool, you remind me of freezai except with speed running!

[@comics4556]

Ayy kecleon my favorite btw nice vid😁👍

[@Manticorpse]

I have never heard of the game or anything of the Maystery Dungeon series but Im happy KZbin randomly recommended it to me :D It looks pretty fun to play might ckecke it out later idk.

[@Crrool]

All I can say is I highly recommend it. Still easily my favorite Pokémon game in the series. Great story, cool characters, and just a really fun twist on the series as a whole :D

[@thomaspiekos3440]

Buy one! You need them! 😅

[@astrohasnojams2209]

I have been trying for literal years to recruit darkrai, for me he’s been the toughest! I’d love to attempt to get a kecleon someday :)

[@isenokami7810]

Certainly feel you there. Low as hell recruit rate, and having ghost movement can potentially take recruit boosters out of the picture if you need the Mobile Scarf to even reach him.

[@zazazakii]

You have to use an escape orb every time it shows up in the Miracle Sea 3 - wear a gold mask and have a mystery part and the recruiting chance is 2% I got him after 20 tries

[@CritikalJari]

Oh shit een Nederlander crazy, probably one of my favourite games, cool pkm mystery dungeon content je hebt een subscriber

[@edgelord8337]

Getting kecleon is like finding playing the lottery ticket and winning 1000 times.

[@rockmanzeroconfused2509]

And Sky. Top 10 Pokemon that I'm not doing a recruit em all challenge. Instead, I'll take which Pokemon in Non Level Resetting dungeons. And rank them. Edit: Kyogre was gotten in Sky in Bottomless Sea.

[@omegaslash777]

Random story: Prior to September 2019, for the longest time, I've been wanting to recruit Kecleon for so long that no matter how many attempts that I've tried, not once, did I ever get lucky enough, until one day, I was looking for both recruiting other Pokemon and evolution stones, eventually finding the stones in a Kecleon shop, also deciding to steal too for shits and giggles, only for one wanting to join my team lol

[@clintwaki6936]

I remember trying for hours as a kid to recruit Dusknoir in spatial rift in EOD. I never got him, and I actually got Dialga to lv.100 during my grind.

[@Crrool]

Dusknoir is such a pain. Sometimes it's super easy, barely an inconvenience. Other times it's just aweful

[@maesetabit]

I recruited keckleon as altaria and let me tell you the wall thing was the best thing you could have done. I wish i knew before xd

[@ghostlyfieldclub2930]

Fantastic video, yet my brain hurt every time I heard "catch rate" in PMD

[@JeremyB381]

It's times like this I'm glad I don't care about getting everyone, just the ones I want.

[@ninjachihuahua4843]

been a while since ive come across a PMD youtuber with rep

[@oro6399]

groudon’s dungeon is only 10 floors and I had to clear the level 4 TIMES to recruit it, can’t even imagine trying to get kyogre after 50 floors

[@mhx5071]

Try playing the balance hack Explorers of Alpha, it has a ton of QoL features from newer games, a higher difficulty curve and Arceus is in the game and recruitable. A Recruit Em All would probably be hellish in that game though since your expected to be level 100 by the end of the main game.

[@tb3411]

That #1 was so obvious but I cannot complain about it.

[@angrypicture6155]

I expected Darkrai somewhere, but I guess that just proves how little I know about the recruit all category ^^'

[@slevinchannel7589]

More of this Game!!!

[@bend7726]

When I played this as a kid I managed to somehow hatch a bronzong from an egg. I was shocked to say the least that it was even possible 😅 definitely go for egg missions you never know what you'll get

[@Crrool]

Egg missions are unfortunately very unreliable for a speedrun setting. Odds are you get super lucky and find something rare, but more likely than not you end up spending a decent amount of time to get something you don't need. Certainly fun in a casual setting though, but sadly too unreliable for a speedrun

[@informernillson4617]

I’m still trying to recruit most of these Pokémon (Kyogre is the only legendary I don’t have). Even with the leader being Lv. 100 with a Golden Mask, it’s still really tough to recruit some of them. I want to recruit everything for the sake of completion, even though you get nothing for it. Not to mention I want to start a completely new game to experience the story as an adult. I’ve had the same save file for nearly 10 years and I want to use different starters this time around.

[@Crrool]

For what it's worth, Kyogre is a flat 50% every time you fight it. It doesn't change with Golden Mask or level or anything. This means I usually just go with something that will get me through the dungeon as fast as possible so I have the best chance to get it. I use an Infernape with Tight Belt or Weather Band (belt on most floors, Band on weather floors) and a fighting gem in the bag. Gives me double movement speed and makes rushing the dungeon reasonably easy. Hope that helps you, but unless you get really unlucky it shouldn't take too much time to obtain. Granted, I had a similar recruit (Articuno) take 8 tries last time I ran Recruit 'em All. Also a flat 50%, but sometimes you just get unlucky

[@christophewakim3587]

I played this game 2 years ago when I was 15 and I cried idk why but it hurts the feelings a lot. 💔😢😭😓

[@Crrool]

Yeah, I think a lot of us experienced that at the end of Explorers of Time/Darkness/Sky

[@HeavyBirb]

jirachi was the toughest one for me, it took like a week just to get her from marowak dojo

[@Crrool]

Jirachi is aweful for sure. Really should have been on the list tbh (I kinda forgot Jirachi existed when I made the list XD)

[@Kali_Krause]

I got really lucky on the Pichu and Kyorge :)

[@GBA-049]

I remember how painful it was for me to recruit Dusknoir in Spacial Rift

[@amazingapple6964]

I save scummed on the floor right before rayquaza so that I don't have to go through the entire dungeon again

[@aldobarca6890]

In my opinion also darkray could be on the list easily he is so scary and so hard to recruit

[@Crrool]

Agreed. The one advantage of darkrai is he's easy to find and you can have all the usual bonusses. He can still be a pain, but once you're lvl 100 he has ok odds of joining you (and luckily he's far weaker then during the initial fight)

[@15minutegaming32]

@@Crrool I thought the slabs are hard to get.

[@Lux_the_Lost]

@@15minutegaming32 They are, but once you have them Darkrai is USUALLY an easy find - especially given that there are multiple places he can show up, so you get to pick where to go. The only real obstacle is that he can travel through walls and his recruit rate is kinda low-ish (though nowhere NEAR as low as Kecleon's). You can still get him fairly reliably with the right preparation. He spawns in the following places: ~ Mystifying Forest (13F) ~ Lower Crevice Cave (B2F) ~ Miracle Sea (B3F) ~ Mt. Travail (17F), or ~ Spacial Rift (B14F) ... which is kind of ironic, given how he was defeated.

[@hesterfranks9716]

@@Lux_the_Lost Miracle Sea B3F is where I recruited him, it's just such an easy place to get to

[@shiroshinigami239]

Ok you have to admit PMD Blue/Red has way harder Pokemon to recruit (Chansey, Ponyta, Eccegute, Pidgey, Snorlax, Clamperl, Relicanth, Chinchou, the Fossils, Walrein, Despotar, Celebi, Jirachi, Dragonite, Deoxys, Mew and Kecleon is also even harder to get in Blue/Red)

[@Crrool]

Oh absolutely, the Blue Rescue Team recruit 'em all is far worse then Explorers, not in the least because you have to grind out every evolution which you dont really need to do in Explorers. The only big advantage you have in Red/Blue is being able to wish pokemon in. It's slow, but at about 1 pokemon per 45 minutes it makes some Pokemon much less painful (like Kecleon). Really that's just a small advantage in comparison though

[@Conches285]

Would Darkrai be an honorable mention? You have to have a special item with you for it to spawn, you have to have a mon of a higher level, it has a very low recruitment rate, AND if you it doesn’t join your time after defeating it, you restart the dungeon over again. It took me way too long to recruit one for myself.

[@Crrool]

Yeah, Darkrai definitely deserves the honorable mention. Its a tough recruit. Not the worst in the game, but certainly not easy

[@toolatetothestory]

@@Crrool To be fair, makes sense as the baddest bad guy of the game

[@sammi-qg9nj]

shoutouts to mew in pokemon mystery dungeon dx who i still somehow don't have after killing like 10 -15 times with a friend ribbon and inviting orb, who has a 1% spawnrate only in certain floors of a 100 layer dunegon...

[@Jawbreaker8k]

One of my friend has recruited a kecleon in Pokémon mystery dungeon, explorers of sky.

[@Crrool]

It's the same odds in Sky, so thats impressive

[@meto9552]

Idk what the odds are but I got a Kecleon the very first time I tried to recruit one which absolutely boggled my mind. All the mental preparation and the memories from the blue and red rescue team games for nothing. I'll never be that lucky again in anything I touch

[@Crrool]

The odds of a single Kecleon joining are 0.1%. With how often they spawn it's pretty quick to get a number of kills very quickly though

[@meto9552]

@@Crrool So I got it first try on a Kecleon with 0.1%. Isn't that even lower than Blue and Red Rescue Team? I think their rates were 0.5% at best, right?

[@Crrool]

@@meto9552 I think it was the same in Red/Blue, but then I would usually just wish cave it in in Red/Blue because that'd be faster

[@shawnalvarado1659]

I ended up recruiting Lunatone while in the main story line when I got to temporal tower. Then I had to take him with me to beat dialga🤷‍♂️.

[@pinguchat12]

impossible, you can't recruit in temporal tower

[@spiroskourtidis134]

Nice vid but how do you use mobile scarf and gold mask at the same time?

[@Crrool]

Its not a mobile scarf, its a mobile orb. Only works for one floor, but keeps working so long as you are still on that floor

[@spiroskourtidis134]

@@Crrool Thanks man🤝🏽

[@Duskool]

Now i feel bad for rejecting all those Bronzor that wanted to join my team when i go to Spacial Rift. I do plan on getting one via egg, so dunno how difficult that'd be

[@Crrool]

I have very little experience with eggs tbh, so I wouldn't really know what that would be like

[@spiritbaki108]

I remember having an unown ! on my child game

[@TheRedScizor]

is there a way to get stuff like that fighting gem in Sky without wondermail?

[@Crrool]

You can get it through Croagunk's Swap Shop. For more details I'll refer you to bulbapedia: bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Exclusive_item

[@Arcryoshi]

I got a question regarding the mobile orb. I now got 491 Pokémon in Explorers of Sky with obviously Arceus missing and Kecleon. I wanted to use your strat because the idea behind it is great and I already got the right Pokémon (Mew) with Fast Friend and it's even Level 100 because I gained so many Exp while recruiting everything which was missing :D But where do I find the orb? I got so many rare items and items in general that I'm steadily around ~900/1000 items but I don't have a single one :( I even played through Zero Isle South now because I read you can find them there but nothing... At least I got a full adventure log in main menu now

[@Crrool]

The easiest place to get the Mobile Orb would be during the future sequence. Now, obviously, that isn't an option anymore, so there are 2 alternative options: 1. Wondermail it in; by far the fastest and easiest method. Just google for a WM generator 2. Spacial Rift; The odds are fairly low, but each orb spawned in Spacial Rift has a very low chance of being a Mobile Orb (2.33% for every orb that spawned). That's your best bet.

[@Arcryoshi]

@@Crrool Thx! I often try to avoid the wonder mail generators because for me they are close to cheating (I mean, I could just use them to get every Pokémon instead of spending time) but after I wrote the question I just wondermailed it in because it's just an item and in this case I don't really care... I also already got Kecleon 1/2 hours ago :D It took me only around 200 in Mt. Horn and I'm very thankful for that. Now I finished my quest also in MD2 May I also ask where you get your information from? I was so glad to find a guide about all the spawn rates in every dungeon but information like how often which item in which dungeon spawns or something like that is completely new to me

[@Crrool]

Gamefaqs has a few guides which are basically just numbers sourced from the games code. It has spawn %'s down to 2 decimals and from what I've been able to tell in recruit 'em alls they are super accurate. Goes for both pokemon spawns and item spawns. Over the course of ~5 different recruit 'em alls I've learned to make good use of those to determine where my odds would be slightly better/worse Edit: the strategies I use I get from speedrun.com. MozzarellaCheez has a very in-depth guide on these runs. He did most of the routing for the recruit 'em alls (and he recently beat the world record on the category of this video)

[@clintwaki6936]

I’m surprised Giratina wasn’t on this list. I was able to get Rayquaza back in the day since his dungeon was just long and not that hard. However the Giratina dungeon has so many earthquake and earth power mons that mess you up. I don’t think I’ve ever recruited Giratina.

[@Crrool]

Personally I didn't really struggle with either dungeon. By the time I go for those recruits I'm fully evolved and lvl 100 with plenty of items to get me through just about every situation. At that point I struggle more with Rayquaza because of the dungeon length (and hunger being a thing)

[@TheMike0088]

Is the Kecleon at least worth it, or is it nerfed from the monstrosity that fights you when you dare steal from it?

[@Crrool]

I've seen some people mention it's good, but I have never used one myself to be honest

[@thomaspiekos3440]

It's ability is quite good in explorers of sky. Attacks are not bad, good coverage. Stats are OK If I remember correctly it can be recruited at level one🤔🙄

[@gameking647]

I'm late to the video but how does this compare to explorers of darkness/sky? Is there a reason to run this game instead? Awesome video

[@Crrool]

Darkness is essentially the same. The only difference between time and darkness are the items that spawn and some minor differences in version exclusives (which is irrelevant to this since you have to wondermail those in anyway) Sky is a little bit different and there might be some pokemon that are easier in sky. One good example is Jirachi (not on this list but it shouldve been). Most of this list still holds true for Sky as well though.

[@gameking647]

@@Crrool thank you for the detailed response!

[@GamingMasterAnthony]

So I’ve just been using up all of my recruiting luck with the legendarys. That explains why I can never recruit anyone in the legend dungeons. (Beat them they join. Always thought it was guaranteed for them to join after you beat them)

[@swampy725]

There should be a category where you don't have to get Kekleon

[@zweettarts3769]

I thought I was the only one who played this game

[@Crrool]

You'd be surprised how popular mystery dungeon still is

[@chilup2007]

Kecleon HAD to be number 1. No debate about that!

[@beanceline]

i remember being a kid and using an infinite health cheat so i could recruit kecleon in team blue. when i finally got it my game froze.

[@Crrool]

That's rough. Even with an infinite health cheat that recruit is a pain

[@easternwoyer3876]

In blue mystery dungeon i got keckleon first try after getting the friend scarf and when i did i didn't even know it was needed to get keckleon

[@Crrool]

That's very lucky. Just like in explorers, kec is 0.1% in blue rescue team (w/ scarf equipped). Without scarf it's an impossible recruit

[@Pacmanfan-po9rn]

Your content is so good

[@Crrool]

Thank you :)

[@fruitful6139]

i remember on my old save file, i tried to recuit Wailord many times, but failed! (and yes i had the golden mask)

[@Crrool]

Wailors sucks to recruit, no doubt

[@celebibi4360]

Out of curiosity once you recruit every Pokémon in the game do you get any sort of acknowledgement/ statue/ rewards or something?

[@Crrool]

There is not sadly

[@celebibi4360]

Aww man what a shame😪

[@DFFfanalltheway]

If you haven't done one of these for Red/Blue Rescue Team then I wanna see one

[@Crrool]

In case you hadn't found it yet: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4m6YYObiq9mms0

[@swampy725]

3:54 Question unrelated to recuitment, WTH is the "took a deep breath" thing that appears every floor

[@Crrool]

It's an IQ skill some pokemon get that allow you to automatically restore 1 pp on a random move at the start of every floor

[@cyxx414]

Trying to resist the urge to start a new file on eos instead of concentrating on 100% dx i keep starting new files and all the games i wanna complete get put on the bench for ever aghh

[@SavvyKitten666]

I play mystery dungeon sky. Of all the pokemon i can't seem to get so far but need is Charmander. That way I can finish my team of Lyrea the Eevee, Lazarus the Riolu, Loki the Shinx, and hopefully a charmander named Luka.

[@Crrool]

Charmander isn't available until deep into the postgame sadly. I think it's the dungeon where you fight the post-game final boss. So yeah, if you're hoping to get one for your story playthrough I'm sorry to have to disappoint you.

[@SavvyKitten666]

@@Crrool I've already completed the main story so I don't really mind much about receiving charmander so late. I just wasn't really sure if I could even get him since I'd read that he was only available as a starter or through wondermail. But I'm glad that there's at least a chance that I can finish my team

[@Crrool]

@@SavvyKitten666 He is obtainable. The spawn rate is low, so it may take some tries to get it (with it spawning at about a 2% rate) and it doesn't help that the floors he does spawn on can have sandstorm (which kills Charmander after a bit of time). Luckily its recruit chance is decently high when you find it. It's in Dark Crater floor 1-10 (best odds on floor 1 and 2 at just over 3%)

[@SavvyKitten666]

@@Crrool awesome, thank you. Now I just have to get there😅 may take a little time but now that I have more hope that I can do it😊 thank you

[@SavvyKitten666]

@@Crrool took me about 15 minutes of scrolling to find this comment notification so I can tell you the amazing news. I got my charmander! I opted for retrying wonder mail, it didn't work last time because somewhere my game Is actually the European version. So I needed separate wonder codes.😊

[@reishinsama]

Fun fact I actually recruited keckleon on my first ever playtrough of blue rescue team when I was a kid Never succeeded ever again lol And also not the same game but, can you recruit evolved pokémon in blue rescue team too ? I ever thought it was impossible.

[@Crrool]

Most evolved Pokémon aren't recruitable in Blue Rescue Team. If I recall there are a super small handful of exceptions, but they are rare if anything. The Blue Rescue Team Recruit 'em All speedrun as a result has a day and a half of just level grinding as a result (at least the one without RNG manip). For the worst ones we just use Wish cave though, since that's a good back-up for the final few Pokémon.

[@reishinsama]

@@Crrool Thank you for the answer ^^

[@Cupshadow]

The hardest recruit em all imo is blue rescue team. I am not saying explorers is easy though. Despite there are few upgrade from rescue team.

[@Crrool]

@@Cupshadow It really is. I've only done BRT Recruit 'em All once and Explorers probably 5 times or so. The amount of grinding necessary is just ridiculous. The one upside of BRT is having Wish Cave, so any Pokémon that would take over 45 minutes on average to get you can get through there, but that's hardly a redeeming quality here.

[@JohnSmith-lh3ht]

Rotom is kinda hard to recruit. Low recruit rate, only really recruitable on a few floors of one dungeon, and hides a lot. Like Darkrai but not as bad.

[@isenokami7810]

I find Porygon to be the dumbest Pokémon to recruit (and Lunatone I guess). Stuff only being in Spatial Rift is fine in my opinion, but having some only appear past the checkpoint, aka the point where the game will kick you out if you were there on missions, is utterly asinine. On the other hand, it let me cheese not only them, but Latios, given he spawns down there with the Slab or Part. Save at the checkpoint, reset if you fail, you just go right back to the checkpoint for another round. I forget if Escape Orbs in DSR will just bring you back to the checkpoint, but if so, that just lets you go back and save any of the five you got that round before going again.

[@jimmyhill5413]

Protip is bring alot of oneroom orbs

[@inklingsquid4688]

11:37 me who has explorers of sky on my Wii u virtual console so I can just save state before defeating him then resetting if I don’t get him

[@giulyblaziken268]

I'm so proud I befriended a milotic

[@Tarx_96]

Nice video, have you recruited em’ all?

[@Crrool]

I have, multiple times. I currently hold the speedrun World Record for Recruit 'em All for this game (both with and without wondermail)

[@Tarx_96]

@@Crrool Great!!!

[@StarPursuit]

No Regis? Having to slog through Aegis Cave multiple times to get them is hell.

[@Crrool]

Usually what I'd do get enough stones for all of them, than save just before entering and reset until I get at least the last 2 (redoing ice only if needed). With them being 50% each that usually doesnt take too long

[@ivythay4259]

It's My-Low-Tik

[@ladyriethegoldendelmo5441]

I would say wish cave is annoying for me... like it took me many attempts just to recruit it lol

[@isthisatitleforayoutubecha3035]

I heard Kecleon just goes to level 30 when you recruit him but he still has max stats or something?

[@Crrool]

Admittedly I don't actually know. While I've recruited him a few times, I never proceeded to check the stats. From what I've heard they're nothing amazing, but I cant really confirm that one way or another right now

[@Anthonyvideogame]

I mean of course number one is Kecleon lol.

[@Crrool]

Ofcourse, would've been weird if it wasn't nr 1 XD

[@kittensteaparty]

For Abomasnow, wouldn't it be easier/make sense to have someone else in the party with rain dance or sunny day?

[@Crrool]

While that would solve the issue, it would only solve it temporarily. Rain dance and sunny day only last a short while so you'll run out of PP after a few floors at most

[@chancecarlson2023]

Wait what about darkrai? Isn't he like a negative percent until you get the golden mask?

[@Crrool]

Darkrai is tough, I just find these worse. The advantage of Darkrai is he's guarenteed to spawn on specific floors and he has a few easy floors he spawns on (one dungeon its, like, floor 3 or something) so grinding the recruit is very doable

[@diegoperalta6643]

What iq skill is that when you “take a deep breath”, and what does it do??

[@Crrool]

The "takes a deep breath" restores 1 random powerpoint at the start of every floor. Its called "deep breather" (190 IQ for Pokemon in the B, E, H and J IQ groups)

[@diegoperalta6643]

@@Crrool thanks, i don’t know much about iq groups

[@fabiol1107]

What about dusknoir in the spacial rift?

[@Crrool]

Because there are so many really hard recruits in Spacial Rift and because Dusknoir is a guaranteed spawn in my experience you'll always get him before you'd have to grind for it

[@MrCrossmoss]

I think is not even possible to get the version exclusive legendary/mythical from time and darkness respectively. Im talking about mewtwo and celebi. Since theres no team trading or wondermail generator that can replicate the wi fi one.

[@Crrool]

Correct. I didn't include them since the speedrun doesnt require them for that very reason. The obtainable one isn't too bad though

[@hugobetrugo5260]

I find it really annoying that the a certain iq group is needed to recruit caclon, makes it so much work if you don't have the right starter. Which, since it's Chikorita, is never for me