Top 10 Negro Leaguers Who NEVER PLAYED MLB... INSANE TALENT!!!

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Today's video counts down the 10 BEST Negro Leaguers who NEVER played Major League Baseball thanks to the horrific gentleman's agreement that lasted over 50 years!
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@travisedwards3543
@travisedwards3543 Жыл бұрын
"When i come to the plate im in scoring position." -Josh Gibson What a baller quote.
@johnnygunzfilmbuff7821
@johnnygunzfilmbuff7821 Жыл бұрын
I once read that before Jackie Robinson being the first black ball player playing mlb. He was almost a possible potential but it's sad he died before he could have played a mlb game.
@NoahBodze
@NoahBodze Жыл бұрын
Must’ve been easy in the Negro league. We’re happy outfielders were drunk because the others were either in jail or showed up late. You don’t actually believe the bullshit history been told, do you stupid?
@Godfather-rn6rb
@Godfather-rn6rb Жыл бұрын
@@johnnygunzfilmbuff7821 Josh didn’t have the go along to get along attitude compared to Jackie. He would have physically fought the blatant racist players back in the day.
@johnnygunzfilmbuff7821
@johnnygunzfilmbuff7821 Жыл бұрын
@@Godfather-rn6rb interesting. I did not know that. I went to the hall of fame yesturday I saw his plaque. It was awesome.
@johnhenry2903
@johnhenry2903 Жыл бұрын
@@Godfather-rn6rb SMH Jackie Robinson didn't have a go along to get along attitude, that's a b.s. narrative white media put on him to make the story palatable. Don't take my word for it, go and look up how he carried himself before, during & after his MLB career. Now what set him apart from the vast majority of all ball players during that era was that he was an educated man.
@00ghostcobra
@00ghostcobra Жыл бұрын
Just imagine what the MLB all time record books would look like if these guys were able to have full major league careers..
@brownpapi2634
@brownpapi2634 Жыл бұрын
That's EXACTLY WHY they weren't allowed to play....white jealousy and baby soft fragile egos. B1 #REPARATIONSNOW
@enriqueespinosa4078
@enriqueespinosa4078 Жыл бұрын
It would be enough for Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Ty Cobb, Roger Hornsby, Walter Johnson, Christy Mathewson, Honus Wagner, Ty Cobb or Hank Greenberg, Tris Speaker or Sam Crawford or Jimmie Fox or Mickey Cochrane or Left Grove or Joe or Bob Feller or Warren Spahn & Bill Dickey or Hack Wilson to show what they can do of the MLB they played for that were mostly or 98 to 99% white color race. Then of what the top Negro League Players had showed of the game of their playing of skills or surburbs expertise too. So it shows their all around playing of the game from one league of the white league or black league . So it's fear for their playing time of their own game playing way or style but if they played for the same MLG's all around year then it could be different. But it didn't start that way normally for any race or till a number of them had played for the white leagues before the MLB came with different leagues or teams and of whites were playing or hiring to play for the MLB after the 1800's so it was not anyone or drafts for negro leagues to officially play for the major leagues then . Till John McGraw or certain managers had assists of certain negro league players would of been a acception or excelled playing for the (in..) MLB then after success of their black negro leagues then the last great ones and finishing of the 30' and to the 40's and great players still playing or playing for top teams with younger top players and ending their careers and the last of the newer ones and starting mostly during the 1940's their was a talk or agreement of certain players to play for the MLB's or needing or having negro league baseball players to come to play for the White Leagues or a all color MLB though that all the great negro league baseball players had been finishing up the careers for the negro leagues of the top all around skill talented players. So the barrier had been broken for negro league baseball players to play for them too. Then their was a few of them mentioned then Satchel Paige came to their draft after pitching a number of years for the NL too and the same as much like "Smokey or Cyclone" Williams for 27 years with official pro league starting players then besides a lot more games that Satchel Paige and team or teams had played other baseball players of top players of the towns best players. Then he went to the MLB after a few had been drafted to play for the MLB then.
@enriqueespinosa4078
@enriqueespinosa4078 Жыл бұрын
The records could be different but still in little trouble of success with both Major Leagues of the color ones and whites. But for a number of them to get MVPs as much won't probably been to achieve the MVP a number of times. Maybe like this of years for certain players throughout the early 1900's to 1940's.
@jaytrace1006
@jaytrace1006 Жыл бұрын
While the color barrier is abhorrent to me, and the fact that these players should have been able to play according to their ability, I do have one point. I hear a lot of people say that major leaguers would not have played as well with these players in the league every day, and the same could be sad of the opposite. Certainly the caliber of play would be better, and players with lesser abilities of every race might not have made the league at all. I think that, with African-Americans making up something like 13% of the population, there would be a smaller pool to pick from. Lot of factors to consider, but the game would have been fun to watch.
@MrStark30009
@MrStark30009 Жыл бұрын
They do include their records in the record books though
@eddierivera1860
@eddierivera1860 Жыл бұрын
My dad saw Josh Gibson play in Puerto Rico and called him the Greatest hitter he ever saw!!!!!
@johnnygunzfilmbuff7821
@johnnygunzfilmbuff7821 Жыл бұрын
That's awesome.
@shaindaman13
@shaindaman13 Жыл бұрын
Overrated. Played against subpar pitching rags his entire career. I mean sure, he was descent. But he would never have raked in the MLB.
@evrbody
@evrbody Жыл бұрын
If I had a time machine, the first thing I would do is watch some Negro League baseball, and possibly keep game records that have been lost to history.
@JarvisJonesakaTheeFlyyGuyy
@JarvisJonesakaTheeFlyyGuyy Жыл бұрын
One of my uncles who was a very old man at the time when I was a kid used to go to a lot of the negro League games and he told me that the negro League was more successful than the MLB and it was better talent.
@jerryklooster438
@jerryklooster438 Жыл бұрын
That's really the first thing you would do?
@evrbody
@evrbody Жыл бұрын
@@jerryklooster438 Yes. It would be fun and it wouldn't interfere with history.
@jerryklooster438
@jerryklooster438 Жыл бұрын
@@evrbody I don't know what to say. Good luck?
@michaelkeenan3437
@michaelkeenan3437 Жыл бұрын
@@JarvisJonesakaTheeFlyyGuyy no comment this way you can’t call me a racist!
@poindextertunes
@poindextertunes Жыл бұрын
My uncle conducted sleep studies in the 70s and one day he spent 3 hours talking baseball to a participant. A lanky older gentlemen who’s hands seemed to go down to his knees. His name was Leroy Robert Paige
@jaysantos536
@jaysantos536 Жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@marcusanderson933
@marcusanderson933 Жыл бұрын
Great story! Your Uncle spending time with Satchel! Amazing! 👍🏽
@EE-bg1de
@EE-bg1de Жыл бұрын
If only people got to see Satchel when he was satchel. I"m thankful to San Diego Studios for bringing the Negro Leagues to MLB The show 23. Teaching a whole new generation about these legends.
@quintinfranklin9168
@quintinfranklin9168 Жыл бұрын
Mam this is awesome & beautiful! Must have been an amazing day!
@Mr_Keating
@Mr_Keating Жыл бұрын
I’m watching this documentary because MLB the show 2023 , I’m 30 and never heard about it till recently , really cool story
@merccadoosis8847
@merccadoosis8847 Жыл бұрын
Josh Gibson said that the GREATEST thrill he ever had during his sensational career was playing baseball in Puerto Rico: ''... my greatest thrill was not experienced through any particular circuit clout or any double or triple which produced the winning margin for our side. The greatest thrill of all my thrills came in the winter of 1941 in Puerto Rico ... “That particular season I was doubly honored as the batting champion and the most valuable player in the Puerto Rico league. Playing winter baseball out of the States in a foreign atmosphere has always struck me as something unique. But cashing in on two top awards out of the States - the batting championship and the most valuable player award - was something more than unique. It was definitely my greatest thrill ... “Receiving the cup symbolic of the most valuable player award at special ceremonies at the end of the season was a highly significant and pleasing event in my life. The fanfare, the cheering of the fans and the many congratulatory speeches from league officials and other dignitaries gave me a thrill unequaled in my career.” source: Andrew Martin My dad was a pitcher in the Puerto Rican league in the early 1930s when it was still semi pro. He and Josh were exactly the same age. Dad (a native of Mayaguez, Puerto Rico) was self taught and spoke excellent English. The two struck up a friendship that my dad never forgot. He said Josh was the nicest guy he ever met in his life.
@chengliu872
@chengliu872 Жыл бұрын
Josh Gibson had a really illustrious career for a guy who only lived to the age of 35.
@davidmitchell6873
@davidmitchell6873 Жыл бұрын
I had an older uncle back in the 90s and he loved to talk baseball with me but he was extremely racist and would pretty much only talk about white players so I made a point to learn all I could about great negro league players. I would throw out so many stats at him he finally stopped talking baseball with me. He died years ago but because of him I learned a lot about these legends of baseball.
@big8dog887
@big8dog887 Жыл бұрын
Hard to find anyone to bump off this list, but Martin Dihigo should be mentioned. Picture Shohei Ohtani with the defensive versatility of Ben Zobrist.
@big8dog887
@big8dog887 Жыл бұрын
@Bread and Circuses Like Ohtani, he both pitched well, and was in the batting order on days he wasn't pitching and did that very well. Whereas Ohtani only DHs and occasionally plays the outfield, Dihigo was able to play every defensive position except catcher (although, on rare occasion, he did that, too) like Zobrist. Also like Zobrist, his primary defensive position was second base.
@deifor
@deifor 3 ай бұрын
Martin Dihigo was the best of them all.
@MIKEDOMO
@MIKEDOMO Жыл бұрын
You’re the Josh Gibson of Baseball KZbinrs. A masterpiece as always.
@MIKEDOMO
@MIKEDOMO Жыл бұрын
Do a video about Satchel Paige there is a curious episode of his life. In 1937 a Dominican dictator called Rafael Leónidas Trujillo sent an emissary to the Negro Leagues to recruit good players, Satchel was one of them. Trujillo send an emissary to the Negro Leagues to recruit good players, Satchel was one of them. They form a team called “Dragones Ciudad Trujillo” they got big money (the players). Played that season in 1937. The tyrant wants to keep them but Satchel and others take a plane to leave the country because they saw atrocities done by that regime. Greetings from Juan Marichal’s land (Dominican Republic), let's go Giants!!!!!!!
@jumpingship3001
@jumpingship3001 Жыл бұрын
Los Gigantes
@bradleyjamerson3160
@bradleyjamerson3160 Жыл бұрын
The Negro League players, would rather have come, back to Amerikkka and deal with overt racism, racial injustice, race terrorism, and live under an unjust system of segregation of Jim Crow!!!! That seems odd to me!!!!
@ahmad.tillery.1987
@ahmad.tillery.1987 Жыл бұрын
"Cool Papa Bell" that's the coolest nickname ever.
@chelle5025
@chelle5025 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I absolutely love Cool Papa Bell! He was so good and too many young people have no idea who he is.
@josephfernandez8015
@josephfernandez8015 Жыл бұрын
Yeah… imagine if Rickey Henderson was an even better hitter… that’s Bell.
@kushclarkkent6669
@kushclarkkent6669 Жыл бұрын
Cool Papa Bell instantly became my favorite baseball name when I found out about him lol.
@enriqueespinosa4078
@enriqueespinosa4078 Жыл бұрын
I just wanting to type something of my one idea of sport people or athletes of negro baseball.
@JohnSilva-iq8yu
@JohnSilva-iq8yu 8 ай бұрын
A dude like that in the Majors he would of probably hit 500. As good as Williams was even he would of had to be humbled. So sad that as many who died during the Civil War it still took a long long time for home grown Americans to be excepted as Americans.
@KingKumari
@KingKumari Жыл бұрын
Just imagine what Josh Gibsons numbers would have been if he hadn't passed away in his prime, oh my God.....😢😢😢
@charlieweinstock2136
@charlieweinstock2136 Жыл бұрын
The great Cardinals player developer George Kissell, who saw EVERYBODY play, said, "The three hardest hit balls I've ever heard hit are three, Mark McGuire, two, Babe Ruth, and number one Josh Gibson. Thanks so much for this excellent video
@saviorself1164
@saviorself1164 10 ай бұрын
Buck O'Neil said something similar, only replace Mark McGwire with Bo Jackson
@Veganerd_
@Veganerd_ Ай бұрын
@@saviorself1164 I remember that, Buck was in the dugout when Bo who had just joined the Royals, smashed a pitch in BP off the crown at Kauffman. Yes, the one way up there above center field. 🤯lol
@WALTERBROADDUS
@WALTERBROADDUS Жыл бұрын
Glad to see this forgotten history being told.
@EE-bg1de
@EE-bg1de Жыл бұрын
I had a conversation with a lady in here 80's about a baseball game her father took her to back in 1938 when she was a little girl. It was Dizzy Deans allstars vs Satchel Paige's allstars. IT was actually one of the few games in which Satchels team lost. It was held in Belleville illinois. She remembered vividly watching satchel paige kick his leg real high and throw a pitch.
@ernestsellars3704
@ernestsellars3704 Жыл бұрын
Robert “School Boy” Griffith broke into MLB in 1933 with Tom Wilson”s Nashville Elite Giants. Griffith stood 6”5 and pitched right-right handed. He threw just as hard as Paige and others but lacked control at times. In 1937 and 1938 Grif suited up with the Negro League Allstars that ran through the Denver Post Tournament featuring MLB Hall A Famers like Sammy Baugh and Roger Hornsby just to name a few. Robert was asked by Paige to play on an Allstar team that toured the Dominican Republic and won the championship. For years he played winter ball in Mexico, (was the leading pitcher for a few seasons) Puerto Rico, Cuba, and Venezuela (1947 Champions). Griffith was the winning pitcher in the 1945 NL Allstar Game. For most of his career he toiled on subpar teams. After the NL met his demise he continued to play in Canada until he retired and resided in Indianapolis, Indiana where he died in 1977.
@christopherfields9785
@christopherfields9785 4 ай бұрын
Thx for the Wikipedia entry😂
@gandhi3625
@gandhi3625 Жыл бұрын
Cool Papa Bell has a statue outside of Busch statium!
@davidallmond5598
@davidallmond5598 Жыл бұрын
I was very fortunate and to have actually have met Mr. Buck Leonard and Cool Papa Bell in 1974 at the Hall of Fame Game after the induction of Cool Papa Bell, Mickey Mantle and Whitey Ford and got the two Gentlemen's autographs. In fact I was fortunate enough to sit next to Buck Leonard the whole game. What a great gentleman and National Treasure he was. I was just a kid then and didn't have much knowledge of the Negro League. Too bad that we were very ignorant of that part of history. If I had known then what I know now I would have appreciated the moment a lot more and I would have picked his brains and then listen to his invaluable stories from his past. I was so glad the MLB had finally started to recognize those wonderful ballplayers and honor them back then as they should. Thank you for posting this story. I really enjoyed it and would love to see more postings like this.
@rogerkinard7446
@rogerkinard7446 Жыл бұрын
Very well said, sir ! 🤔 ⚾️⚾️⚾️ ROGER, The LOS ANGELES DODGER
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 Жыл бұрын
I was there... I didn't see the HOF game. But I saw the induction, and all the greats across the street at the Otesaga Hotel. Buck Leonard, Satchel, Mickey Mantle, Phil Rizzuto, so many others.
@davidstachowicz2457
@davidstachowicz2457 Жыл бұрын
Bullet Rogan was not just great but a great two way player.
@Isaidthis
@Isaidthis Жыл бұрын
Thank you for tis valuable piece of journalism. MLB The Show now features some of these great ball players on their game for 2023!
@jayfelsberg1931
@jayfelsberg1931 Жыл бұрын
Pop Lloyd was the recreation director in Atlantic City and worked at city hall when I was a boy. My dad was an avid amateur softball and baseball player, and played in games at the rec field on Bacharach Boulevard, home of at least one Negro League team.. He was at all the games and was the nicest man you ever met. He would talk with all the players and the kids and would talk your ear off about baseball. My dad introduced me to him and said he would have been one of the best shortstops who ever played if he wallowed to play in the majors.
@steveswangler6373
@steveswangler6373 6 ай бұрын
He was one of the best shortstops to ever play. I believe what you meant was one of the best in MLB- but the negro leagues’ talent was on par with mlb.
@akhnatenra6603
@akhnatenra6603 Жыл бұрын
"When I come to the plate, I'm in scoring position " that's the confidence of a Legend, the Great Josh Gibson.
@rogerkinard7446
@rogerkinard7446 Жыл бұрын
This is one of your greatest videos, Erik. Excellent research and presentation by the Humm Baby Baseball channel. Yes, as a baseball fan of only 62 years I’ve heard of all of these great men who played and starred in the Negro Leagues !!! ⚾️⚾️⚾️ ROGER, The LOS ANGELES DODGER (from the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex)
@Archmage_74
@Archmage_74 Жыл бұрын
Great video. This popped up a few days after MLB the show announced the Negro Leagues will be coming to The Show. Good on San diego Studio's for doing this. This time in baseball history is Legendary and a must know about. It seems the news is spreading.
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 Жыл бұрын
I was at Cool Papa Bell's HOF induction. He went in with Whitey Ford and Mickey Mantle. What a day!
@EE-bg1de
@EE-bg1de Жыл бұрын
Here's what's missing from this list: Martin Dihigo "The Maestro". He was good enough to be the only man in history to be elected to 5 different hall of fames in different countries. Think about that. He's top 5.
@jumpingship3001
@jumpingship3001 Жыл бұрын
I worked with a security guard in the 1980s that was from Pittsburgh and his grin was so priceless that I said a bunch of names from that era that he seen play.
@Donbarbz
@Donbarbz Жыл бұрын
Great job with this video! Thank you for recognizing these great players that history may have forgotten or not recorded their accomplishments as accurately as they deserved.
@SteveDave211
@SteveDave211 Жыл бұрын
I always wonder how good Pedro Cepeda, would have been if he accepted to play in the Negros leagues. Some of those Winter Leagues Cepeda was able to go toe to toe with Gibson who was insane in those MX and PR leagues. Such great talent especially to see these guys were able to play in these leagues.
@thickgraymane5145
@thickgraymane5145 Жыл бұрын
Willard Brown, Alonzo Perry and Wilbur Wood. Brown hit 397, 27 HR and 87 BI in 1942 in 54 games with Santurce, that’s production. Perry and Wood played for the champions Mayaguez in 1939, the inaugural season of winter ball in PR.
@robertclifton2211
@robertclifton2211 Жыл бұрын
These guys hit so well since it’s a fact that other than a handful of talented pitchers, the rest of the pitchers were bush league pitchers who anyone would hit well against.
@keithleverette8235
@keithleverette8235 Жыл бұрын
The '20's and '30's were the two worst decades in MLB history for pitching, fielding, and HOME TEAM official scoring! And that's a FACT, ROOKIE!
@Hootowl54
@Hootowl54 Жыл бұрын
Opinion: Before announcing your number one pick, I would have a few honorable mentions. Such as pitcher John Wesley Donaldson. Personally, I would rank him at number two on this list. Great list though!
@luishumbertovega3900
@luishumbertovega3900 Жыл бұрын
At 1:36 Hank Aaron is wearing the uniform of the Caguas Criollos, a team of the Puerto Rico Winter Baseball League. The winter leagues at Cuba, the Dominican Republic, México, Venezuela, Panamá and PR offered those Negro League players the chance to play in a friendly environment in which they felt at home, were respected by the fans, the press and the local authorities, earned good money, were treated like royalty, they could interact with white players with no problem, some of them even established their families in those countries. Negro Leagues players are fondly remembered by their contributions to the success of those leagues. The plaques of Willard Brown and Raymond Brown at Cooperstown mention their feats during their time playing in Puerto Rico, and Leon Day's plaque, besides alluding to what he accomplished in various of those countries, depicts him wearing the Aguadilla Sharks cap, the only case in the HOF in which the cap does not belong to a MLB or a Negro Leagues club. Josh Gibson still holds the record for the highest batting average in PR (.480 !) Blessings to all from San Juan 🇵🇷.
@alvincredit7000
@alvincredit7000 Жыл бұрын
You can add a few names to that top 10 from the Cuban players from the 1920's. I got these names from some cigar cards of that era. Cristobal Torriente, Jose Mendez, Andy Cooper, and John Henry "pop" Lloyd were some of the greats from Cuba. I believe also a few from South America Venezuela and Argentina had some great ball players as well. Baseball was quite popular. Even if you want to get outside of Black players, some Japanese had greats as well, Sadahuru Oh, I believe was a great home run hitter.
@Veganerd_
@Veganerd_ Ай бұрын
Yes, Sadaharu Oh is probably the most prolific home run hitter baseball has seen. In 21 years of baseball in Japan, he hit 868 home runs.
@TheOGHoopByTheBook
@TheOGHoopByTheBook 7 ай бұрын
On OOTP, I went back to 1947 and made the dodgers a full negro league team, will continue to add a couple guys each draft too. Rn we are 73-14, safe to say that the talent is that of a All-MLB esque team. So damn good we have as many complete game shutouts as wins. Triple other teams home runs etc. Such Amazing talent, it’s truly sad basically none got a chance at all let alone in their primes
@rollandwoods97
@rollandwoods97 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Thank you for putting this together. Turkey Stearnes is my favorite and love to see him get more recognition.
@elmascavidal1797
@elmascavidal1797 Жыл бұрын
Wow this is so amazing and sad at the same time…. S/O to all those great ball players who never got the chance to play in the big show….
@sweetfreddie
@sweetfreddie Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this highly educational video. As a life long baseball fan (80 years old) I feel frustrated and cheated that these great players were not permitted to play in MLB. It would have been so great to have known what that would have accomplished if that had happened.
@srj34
@srj34 Жыл бұрын
Well, let's be clear: segregation hurt MLB and the Negro Leagues. The best of both of worlds should have been competing in one.
@queend5493
@queend5493 Жыл бұрын
Thank You for posting this 😊The way you spoke showed pure excitement for the love of the game
@DavidSmith-xs3or
@DavidSmith-xs3or Жыл бұрын
If I could go back in time and watch each one of those guys play. I'd put on my best old-time looking suit, set my time machine and choose the teams.
@lulionbowler
@lulionbowler Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love this video. All 10 are very worthy inclusions and I can't argue against any of them. There is one player I've heard snippets about and I wondered if maybe you could do something on him bc I really would like to know more about Martin Dihigo.
@areguapiri
@areguapiri Жыл бұрын
He was great!
@rafaelsantiago7087
@rafaelsantiago7087 Жыл бұрын
I’m so happy these mlb players are coming to light 🙏😊 and knowing they’re history
@raymondhopwood9393
@raymondhopwood9393 Жыл бұрын
Before he made his mark in Country music, Charlie Pride was a player, one of the last Negro League players. He played in the New York Mets organization before starting his HOF music career.
@teetoo3790
@teetoo3790 Жыл бұрын
Best video yet by you because you are introducing a new big KZbin audience to all these great players .
@robertmurphy440
@robertmurphy440 11 ай бұрын
Father seen Josh Gibson hit a home run in old Yankee stadium during batting practice. SITTING IN A ROCKING CHAIR...STANDING OVATION
@braviafeed
@braviafeed Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! I really appreciate you doing this video!
@jamessantagati4999
@jamessantagati4999 Жыл бұрын
When I worked at the Beth Israel Hospital in Boston in the early 80's I met a gentleman who said he was a Negro League player. His name was Moody "Big Train" Agnew. Has anybody heard of him? He lived in Fermoy Heights in the Franklin Field projects.
@marksieber4626
@marksieber4626 Жыл бұрын
Got to see Bell inducted at Cooperstown. Must have been a hell of a player. Big eye opener for a 12 year old me.
@andremasud1249
@andremasud1249 2 ай бұрын
This video was awe inspiring! I love the passion and enthusiasm the Narrator possessed in bringing the narration to this great history lesson. Great for any presentation on Negro League Baseball (I plan to give at Fresh Start Academy, East Orange, NJ on 2/29/24). I absolutely loved it! Great job and thanks for sharing this information.
@jsain360
@jsain360 Жыл бұрын
Josh Gibson would probably be the single season and all-time HR and RBI leader
@MortisNuntius
@MortisNuntius Жыл бұрын
Very well done! Thx for the info
@johnrsanchez3890
@johnrsanchez3890 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this immensely tragic that they didn’t get the chance to play in the majors⚾️⚾️⚾️⚾️
@blackhistoryonsteroids8196
@blackhistoryonsteroids8196 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the excellence. To the players and the creator of this video.
@jimmycrackcorn2516
@jimmycrackcorn2516 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Keep up the good work!
@worldtraveler721
@worldtraveler721 Жыл бұрын
Wow! Thank you for bringing this piece of baseball history to us! I love baseball stories/history! It's unfortunate that exclusionary practices back then almost make me see these baseball players, moreso, in a mythological capacity now. I feel like MLB finally "recognizing" them was really more of a gesture of admitting the mistakes that were made by excluding these great players rather than actually validating what they did. IMO, these players should not have needed MLB's validation. The stats that you mentioned for each speak for themselves! I love the sound of the nickname "Cool Papa Bell!" 😅 Great video and presentation!! Thanks Erik! ❤❤
@kimkelly5512
@kimkelly5512 Жыл бұрын
What a shame that these talented men couldn't play in the major's, how exciting it would've been for true baseball ⚾ fans!!!
@davidluckens3479
@davidluckens3479 Жыл бұрын
Martin Dihigo belongs on your astute list of baseball titans-Thanks for the video
@bezllama3325
@bezllama3325 Жыл бұрын
Cool Papa Bell seems like Rickey Henderson while Stearns seems like Mantle I was trying to think of comparisons throughout the video
@curiouslymavismade
@curiouslymavismade Жыл бұрын
Very interesting and informative.
@lpourmirza
@lpourmirza 6 ай бұрын
Oscar Charleston’s known stats against MLB opposition: 37 G, 158 PA, 10 HR, .355 AVG, .420 OBP, .738 SLG, for a 1.158 OPS (Stats from foolish baseball’s vid about Satchel Paige). Him and all of the guys on this list most certainly would’ve dominated against MLB competition had they been allowed the chance.
@markadkins9290
@markadkins9290 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, thanks!
@Cory-zn5mq
@Cory-zn5mq Жыл бұрын
Turkey 🦃 a true legend one of the reasons I watch today
@voiceofthelastdaymessenger8659
@voiceofthelastdaymessenger8659 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that history.That is so awesome.
@jennyvega8
@jennyvega8 Жыл бұрын
amazing video!! wow I wished they played in mlb..
@JarvisJonesakaTheeFlyyGuyy
@JarvisJonesakaTheeFlyyGuyy Жыл бұрын
Why the negro League was a better League plus they didn't have to deal with all that BS that the white fans put black players through.
@michaelgarden6554
@michaelgarden6554 Жыл бұрын
I wish Hollywood would spend time telling the stories of these great players.
@DakDirty76
@DakDirty76 Жыл бұрын
What a great video. Thank you.
@neilfosteronly
@neilfosteronly Жыл бұрын
I am working on getting a patent for my baseball card game. It works with dice in person or online. Adding these players to my field of dreams teams. Josh Gibson has the best season ever in my game. Wish there were recording strike outs during this time but baseball reference does not show.
@ericknunez8652
@ericknunez8652 Жыл бұрын
I love your channel mi pana great work papa
@JohnMiller-jj9kx
@JohnMiller-jj9kx Жыл бұрын
Great list and great education gir our beloved national sport!
@donaldschmidt2990
@donaldschmidt2990 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Your list could actually have been even longer. One player in particular was the great Spotswood Poles. Poles was referred to as "The Black Ty Cobb." Cobb easily could have been referred to as "The white Spotswood Poles." Many said that his speed was even greater than Cool Papa Bell. Apparently both men could turn off a light and get into bed before the room got dark! Bell to this day may have been the fastest man ever to play baseball. And Poles may have been even faster! A great contact hitter, Poles routinely batted over .400. Many thought Ty Cobb and Babe Ruth were these untouchable giants. Oscar Charleston and Josh Gibson were quite probably better. Playing in the major leagues both men would have created numbers surpassing even those of Hank Aaron and Willie Mays. Many old timers ranked Charleston ahead of Mays. And Mays was considered by many to be the greatest player in MLB history. Gibson was so good that Hall of Famer Roy Campanella called him "Not only the greatest catcher, but the greatest ballplayer I ever saw." As for the rest of the men on this list, I will happily take these players against any group of players to play. Before or since. Their numbers they compiled under the conditions they played under speaks for itself. Yet, there is one man omitted from this list that may have been the greatest to ever play the game. The legendary Cuban Martin Dihigo. Known as "El Maestro" and "The Immortal." Dihigo could play every position on the diamond and led the Negro Leagues simultaneously in batting and pitching. The great Buck Leonard said of him "You can keep your Cobbs, Gehrigs.and Ruths. If he's not the best, I don't know who is." Were it not for blind racism, these men and countless others would have competed with and outshone most of their white counterparts.
@2kdesignstudios72
@2kdesignstudios72 9 ай бұрын
I have been researching Negro League players and I too came across Martin. Obviously no way to judge but I agree he's gotta be up there. But he didn't play Catcher 😂.
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 8 ай бұрын
Cool Papa Bell once hit a grounder up the middle, and was called out when the ball hit him as he slid into second base!
@ivobaes
@ivobaes Жыл бұрын
Willie Walls " El diablo" 😈 fast and agressive player. Regards from México 🇲🇽
@stevetalley5800
@stevetalley5800 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff!
@user-cf9lm1oi6i
@user-cf9lm1oi6i 10 ай бұрын
Outstanding information......
@OleCrankyGamer
@OleCrankyGamer Жыл бұрын
Loved desegregating baseball in 1921 with older versions of Out of the Park Baseball. Oscar Charleston, Pop Lloyd & Cristobal Torriente were pioneers for position players while Smokey Joe Williams and Andrew 'Rube' Foster were the Pitching pioneers. I think, Lloyd, Biz Mackey, Monte Irvin, Turkey Stearnes & of course Satchel Paige were the ones who usually made my HOF. Josh Gibson gets all the accolades but by many accounts, he could not really hit the breaking ball, so he usually hit some bombs but his batting average and low OBP gave him a short career. Rube Foster was usually quickly made a manager then a GM. I only recall one sim where he and Ty Cobb with Stearnes finally got the Tigers to the promised land 3 times in the mid 20s...their ace was Dazzy Vance. Another thing one must realize is that the Negro League teams usually had only 2 Great teams composed of All Stars while the rest of the league were essentially the 1920s Phillies, so stats are inflated depending on what team they were on, so Biz Mackey & Charleston were more impressive than guys who played with Chicago (later Pittsburgh took their place) or Homstead (which grabbed KCs stars)
@pauljulion
@pauljulion Жыл бұрын
Tweakin with the breaking ball claim. I have in film Quincy Troupe and Jimmie Crutchfield saying Josh destroyed breaking balls.
@enriqueespinosadelosmonter874
@enriqueespinosadelosmonter874 Жыл бұрын
Andrew RP ,was a a all around control pitcher and batter who batted ..300-.400 manager of two top known teams...et
@mdarrenu
@mdarrenu 11 ай бұрын
I have a partially written movie script about two kids (black and white) from New Orleans in the 50s trying to find Josh Gibson by going up the Mississippi to Chicago and then finally to Pittsburgh only to find out he died. The tentative title is "My Apologies, Mr. Gibson" and explores both the early civil rights period in the south and the north and the unfairness of the world through a child's eyes and his demands for redress on behalf of Mr. Gibson.
@cristianherrera7615
@cristianherrera7615 Жыл бұрын
From my country, martin dihigo, the most versatile ball player EVER, played every single position and did so outstandingly, once called by the great buck leonard “the best ball player ever black or white” is the only player in baseball history to be inducted into 5 different countries baseball hall of fame and once got the batting title as well as the equivalent of the cy young in the same season in the mexican league… a true master of the sport nicknames El maestro
@kingkongz88
@kingkongz88 10 ай бұрын
There were a few I was unaware of. Thanks for giving them a fraction of their due. Every time I come back to the states (Columbia Missouri) from New Zealand I try to go to the Negro Leagues Baseball Museum in Kansas City. Every damn time it is clised for some reason. One day...
@Tripster3
@Tripster3 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Subscribing.
@christopherdavison652
@christopherdavison652 Жыл бұрын
Just got a sports history lesson here. What great sports heroes.
@davidarnold7147
@davidarnold7147 Жыл бұрын
I'm not really into Pitchers but my favorite pitcher of all time is Satchel Paige. He did play in the Majors but he came in what today is considered as an "old man" of 42 and 59 when he retired. I loved reading about him and watching him on old reels when I was a kid. Josh Gibson belongs in the 700+ Club.
@braheme1260
@braheme1260 Жыл бұрын
He won a world series too
@bobbyg433
@bobbyg433 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@braheme1260
@braheme1260 Жыл бұрын
@@bobbyg433 Ur right, Satchel Paige could spin a hilarious yarn. Read about him
@bobbyg433
@bobbyg433 Жыл бұрын
@@braheme1260 I was laughing at the Gibson 700 club comment
@braheme1260
@braheme1260 Жыл бұрын
@@bobbyg433 I mean, some legit baseball insiders say he's in the same air as Ruth.
@flame-sky7148
@flame-sky7148 10 ай бұрын
There is a true story about how fast Cool Pap Bell was. He was playing in Latin America somewhere and he went from first to third on a bunt. The opposing team stopped the game and tried to accuse Bell of cutting across the diamond to get to third. Funny, that dude must have been fast.
@TomboKaiOfficial
@TomboKaiOfficial Жыл бұрын
Martin Dihigo.
@user-cb1mx9lr8q
@user-cb1mx9lr8q 2 ай бұрын
Que interesante video , grandes peloteros , me hubiese gustado verlos jugar en vivo.
@kennethbailey3043
@kennethbailey3043 Жыл бұрын
Awesome. I hope my kids appreciate this.
@stephendufort4154
@stephendufort4154 Жыл бұрын
Thank God , it is only justice that we know them all today and MLB is richer now and we have put them where they always deserved to be.
@DaddychiLL6
@DaddychiLL6 Жыл бұрын
Picked up a Gibson Jersey a while ago 😂 ❤
@bigsmoothmusicchannel4611
@bigsmoothmusicchannel4611 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you did this. It's really sad alongside it as well smh
@africanartlegacy9593
@africanartlegacy9593 Жыл бұрын
Many Thanmks
@steveswangler6373
@steveswangler6373 6 ай бұрын
When Honus Wagner was told that reporters had taken to calling Pop Lloyd the “black Honus Wagner” (as was the ignorant way of the day) Wagner is said to have replied, “sir, Hans Wagner is the white Pop Lloyd.” Such a shame that ignorance, stupidity and fear not only denied these men of the chance to truly make mlb the top league, but also denied true baseball fans of seeing the best against the best.
@thesevensbrand6428
@thesevensbrand6428 Жыл бұрын
Martin Dihigo has to be on any list
@BulletRogan
@BulletRogan Жыл бұрын
Outstanding presentation. Expand your list to Include Bullet Rogan. Batter up.
@ejhernand
@ejhernand 11 ай бұрын
I would’ve added Raymond Brown and Hilton Smith. 💪
@JamesSmith-kn3vs
@JamesSmith-kn3vs Жыл бұрын
The great Hall of Famer Roy Campenella who won multiple MVP awards stated that he wasn't nearly as talented as Josh Gibson. That's saying something.
@richardclegg5853
@richardclegg5853 Жыл бұрын
You can't help but wonder what might've been... heart breaking reality of how this country once treated our fellow Americans and in many ways, still does...
@quintinfranklin9168
@quintinfranklin9168 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing! Really touches my heart!
@flame-sky7148
@flame-sky7148 10 ай бұрын
I would go with the Cuban Martín Dihigo, he was a pitcher/player and we all missed his talent. Others are Judy Johnson and Ray Dandridge. These guys never played in the MLB.
@TheLemon333
@TheLemon333 3 ай бұрын
Would love to see footage of these guys.
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