Top 10 Pet Peeves in Fictional Romances

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I’m not a huge fan of Valentine’s Day. I know, shocker. I think that if you’re in a relationship, you should be showing your partner that you appreciate them on a regular basis. With that said, when I realized it was time for me to make a Valentine’s Day video, I thought, “What better way to commemorate the holiday than by doing the one thing that most people do on this very special day? Complain about romance!” So I’m listing my ten biggest pet peeves in fictional romances! I’m talking about everything wrong with insta romances, why you should avoid unrealistic sex scenes, everything wrong with love triangles, and more. If you have been wondering about the worst kinds of fictional romances, want to complain together about the worst tropes in romance novels, or ya just want to gripe about bad romance tropes overall, stick around! I’m hitting ya with a doozy at the end… 😳
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[@ryye1829]

"Insecurity, across the board, is unattractive," Well there goes my love life

[@miapendragon5931]

CinderKitty MOOD

[@HisMajestyTheQween]

Same

[@m_e_nere]

F

[@clockworkharvester2663]

RyyCat I think people just need to be aware that they’re writing insecure characters. Then they could make it this wholesome journey.

[@lainhikaru5657]

Oh it isn't 100% of the time though I'm not gonna go into details but insecure boys are a huge fetish for me :D

[@dragoniraflameblade]

"Unnecessary Miscommunication" - 90% of Anime Romances.

[@johnadams8566]

Felicity Swan main reasons why I stopped watching anime, other than trashy anime tropes

[@macrocosmcat6920]

John Adams This is why I like to watch animes placed outside Japan. Like Europe mostly. Such as Berserk, Nadia: the Secret of the Blue Water are a few I can remember right now. Most Japanese animation is crap because of self fulfillment stories and god, harem stories sucks so much, with some exceptions. Re:Monster does a good job at having a harem. Pretty much the guy sleeps with all the girls, at the same time. Like almost every night, unlike most harems where the main guy can't decide who to go for but at the same time says nothing and is always chased by the girls. Can't believe girls would fall for a guy who shows no sign of committing to anyone.

[@tfpradgirl9537]

I don't think it's all anime romances.

[@bonelessbooks9263]

Ouran Host Club?

[@altalio5383]

that's why I don't watch shoujo

[@loveverythingbooks]

One of the first books I read on Wattpad when I was 14 was about a boy that confessed his love to a girl in the first 10 seconds that they meet. She punched him in the face... That was actually a good example of a normal reaction for me

[@gjones9282]

I would just say, “What the fuck.”

[@SeventhClover]

I probably wouldn't punch him (unless I was a super tough gal) but I'd definitely back away awkwardly and never talk to that creep again. Seriously, what the actual fuck.

[@frannyc7248]

Do you still know the name of the stroy

[@Cheryskul]

Tf

[@animeholic928]

SHE MUST BE A TSUNDERE

[@byrdrobinson423]

It's like she just discribed all the teen-fiction books on wattpad

[@ngocminhvu7139]

Byrd Robinson Yes, I agree.

[@danielborbolla4677]

She must looooove twilight and 50 shades

[@21chemicalatthedisco93]

Yaas

[@_elizabeth_w4548]

True

[@EnjoyTheJourney1]

ikr I am so ashamed.

[@eugene12310mobile]

Every person on the website Wattpad should watch this video.

[@justice6858]

True

[@JeorgeDeLaCuuzOfficial]

Eugene Monotilla I agree.

[@tayleenorman3171]

Eugene Monotilla I as a wattpad junkie find this so funny and true

[@eugene12310mobile]

SupremeOreo Glad I am not the only one who notices how generic almost every Wattpad story is, specially with romance.

[@arianabarlow4440]

Even as a Wattpader, I SECOND THE NOTION!

[@PhrontDoor]

That miscommunication-trope is really annoying.. even my son (11 years old) hates it, in movies, when the guy can straighten out the problem if only the girl hadn't dictated "I don't wanna hear it, just leave"...

[@Christian4everish]

Then the girl later in the story is like, "Why didn't you tell me?"

[@Meowblivion]

I mean. I'm surprised that's even a cliche. I've only recently heard of it and it sounds smart if well done

[@savannawilliams1955]

Then the guy doesn't even fight for it. Like just yell the truth at her even as she walks away or as he walks away. Lol

[@o3o710]

...does anyone enjoy it? I mean, I don’t think I know anyone who enjoys it, and I for one *loath* it. While it may just be that I haven’t read any good instances of miscommunication, I think I’d rather not anyway.

[@boredgirlontheblock5813]

If done right, it could be better. (Or just stop reading the book cuz you kno it's sh*t)

[@australiumbacon5598]

Opens book "I loved her since the moment I saw her" Closes book Runs away tearing hair out.

[@jadethyne9965]

Well, I mean, he could have a crush on her, which grow into at least being in love (as we all know that love is not the same as "being in love") over time. It may all depend on where it goes from there.

[@doubleh333lix]

Australium bacon I wrote something kind of like this, but in the end the character that the story's pov was from was actually dead and spying on a living girl.

[@ApprenticeNick]

Catch-22 does a nice variant of this.

[@bekahnavarro]

Australium bacon No wait, I was just in love with the abs.

[@eyitsyaboi4527]

SAME

[@APB904]

I'm writing a "toxic relationship" subplot, and I'm using this video as a checklist of what to include.

[@JennaMoreci]

+APB904 LOL! This is fantastic

[@MariahMonique]

that's smartd

[@SzmaragdowaPanda]

What is your story called and where is it posted?

[@shaylamills8574]

OMG Me too! #Relatable

[@lucymakes]

Well done! And I relate to the crashing thing

[@Samantha-lp6kz]

I saw a tumblr prompt that said there should be a love triangle where the girl realizes she's aromantic then gets a cat, then he two guys get together because they were actually fighting for the girl to impress one another. It was funny and made me smile :)

[@digilici951]

Great idea. Okay if I use it?

[@KyleHarmieson]

Digilici Why are you asking this person? They only saw it. Plus, it's a prompt - it's meant to be used. Go crazy with it :)

[@mckinleyharrop8416]

that is a love triangle i would read about

[@Dizzybevvie]

100% of Garrance stories on wattpad

[@brijones7827]

Carry On by Rainbow Rowell in a nutshell

[@Weirdanimalboy]

Oh my god, when she said "Most women don't bleed profusely when they have sex." I thought she said "bleat" and just imagined a girl making sheep and goat noises during a sex scene.

[@eveescastle5866]

I honest to God can't stop laughing at this situation.

[@incognitoburrito6020]

+Weirdanimalboy I'm having flashbacks to a Zelda fanfiction called "My Inner Life" where the writer kept using cat comparisons during sex scenes. Stuff like "tiger-like agility" or the word "catlike" and, at one point, the phrase "soft mewing noises". One of the commentors suggested listening to the Meow Mix song or the Nyan cat theme during the sex scens to alleviate the pain of listening to the dramatic reader read those awful things.

[@Christina-uq4bw]

Weirdanimalboy i laughed so hard at this comment because I make a goat noise when I'm nervous 😂😂

[@Onsvaltti]

oh my god that is hilarious

[@Onsvaltti]

Incognito Burrito oh god whyyy x'D who slept with who? most of the zelda stuff I've read is Link being bottom. and that's how aha aha, I like it

[@stephencantnmbrs]

This applies to 80% of the stories on WattPad

[@silvershadow108]

+StephenCantNmbrs LOL I was thinking around 98% but then again I always find the "cliche" romance stories

[@chicerella]

+StephenCantNmbrs I was literally thinking the same!

[@chicerella]

***** OH and don't forget 'The BadBoy said I'm His What!?!?!?!?!' *Gags*

[@stephencantnmbrs]

+Emerald J DUDE I KNOW RIGHT XDXD

[@tomrakebluer1542]

+StephenCantNmbrs that website is full of shitty cliches about bad boys and horny vampires

[@squeemdweem]

"Kissing is not love. Sex is not love." - Jenna Moreci I really love this quote honestly so tru

[@Devan-od6jw]

The line "You are mine. I own you" is one that I've used MULTIPLE times for my villain because I've always found it terrifying and possessive. When I realized that people use it as something romantic was the day I decided to give up on getting advice from Quotev writers

[@maripaz5650]

Lol you're so right! I've only seen it in the romantic sense, but in the terrifyingly possessive one.. I need to try that now *evil grin*

[@daniellehall1857]

Kitty DeV yeah that's my villain too! twinsies!

[@pickledjellybean5016]

Devan 😂🤣

[@random_meta]

Oh, I totally forgot about Quotev... I had written some fanfiction about one direction.. more specifically harry styles kidnapping a girl. Some readers complained about how I didnt include him much in the story.. well, the girl was locked up, and I wanted drama, no romance... I should check how its going, lol

[@burmessafox3939]

I like this when it's yandere

[@kristenhall283]

This is honestly also good advice on who not to date

[@brunayamaguchi9664]

So true

[@blacksiberiancatkitty5981]

Agreed, I’m currently in my junior year of high school and haven’t dated due to the facts that: 1. Not interested in dating 2. Most boys in high school are complete doosh bags 3. I’m very shy 4. I don’t have the time

[@em-vo4ml]

Black Siberian cat Kitty 5. Guys our age have a tendency to be complete immature jackasses

[@annebananne3381]

Lol, tbh, I've in the list found a mistake I've once made long long ago in a galaxy far far away

[@exammole4545]

Emilee Stevens As a dude, I can agree with this.

[@big_petebear8535]

Why is there so little romance written about already married couples? Not as a primary plotline maybe but i think it could be a great sub plot.

[@calicoc1335]

As you probably noticed, most romantic plots involve meeting, deciding they like each other (over a relatively long time, decide they are in love with one another, and then they kiss/go steady/etc, the end. It might be because writers have a particular attachment to the phase, or maybe it is because it is what they have the most experience in. I watched Crazy Rich Asians a month ago, and I was ecstatic to find out it was about a couple with an already established relationship, for the sole reason that that is so rare. The most likely reason, now that I think about it, is because many people feel like that once a couple is married, there is no more romance between them. Think of married parents in any show ever, it mostly just shows them bickering and unhappy with their life in general.

[@DarkPrject]

It's way easier to write a fresh relationship. For a story you need conflict and "will they won't they" works perfectly for that plus you automatically get your readers invested in the relationship because that's the whole point. If you wanna write a romance about a married couple, you're either gonna need a relationship crisis, which is depressing and not likely to get your readers on board with the characters belonging together in the first place, or you need some sort of outside conflict that they can tackle as a couple. Since romance is often thought of exclusively as it's own genre people who wanna write about external conflicts are often just gonna write about one protagonist instead of the married protagonist couple and probably shoehorn in some "romance" barely-even-a-subplot with a love interest that has zero chemistry with the protagonist because they think it's basically mandatory. And of course they are stories that have the protagonist married, but the partner get's damseled, or fridged and that's the inciting incident, so we don't see much, if any relationship actually portrayed.

[@diby1555]

My MC and love interest are in an arranged marriage, MC hates the prospect of getting married, but he has no choice, but when he meets love interest, turns out he is a nice guy and equally stuck in the relationship, they develop a friendship, and then slowly fall in love.

[@lunamugetsu6274]

Peter Martin I think it’s because most people see marriage as the endgame for romance and that once a couple is married or are married, nothing happens after that. That’s probably why most shows or movies that have a romance subplot going on between a couple would usually try to drag out the romance of just end it at the couple got together. Most likely because writers don’t really know how to portray the couple now that they’re together.

[@sydneyanderson4749]

Check out 'Outlander'. The female MC is married to a man in the present day and then she gets thrown back and time and has to find a way back home. During this, she ends up marrying this guy for protection from this evil ancestor of her present-day husband and eventually falls in love with him. She has to battle with her heart and mind as she juggles to marriages and the thoughts of how she is going to get home and if she really does want to go home. Really good story. I tried reading the book but struggled reading it so I just watched the TV show.

[@Vogelkinder]

"Peace out, Douche Lord". Priceless.

[@witchqueen1296]

I heard it as "Peace out, Douche whore." XD

[@anonymousamasawa3153]

Yepp, she's completely cute😊

[@OcarinaSapphr-]

I use this saying in everyday life, now. Bless.

[@sinclairethomas8197]

My pet peeve is when the woman is verbally saying "No" but her inner monolog says "I'm totally in to this." For real, even if you are, just say so! And because you're not saying it outloud, the guy doesn't know your in to it, but he doesn't stop!

[@anonymousfellow8879]

...yeahh...rape ain’t cute.

[@emmanuckles2876]

Anonymous Fellow I read a story once where the protagonist said no several times and another character ended up having to stop her love interest. His excuse was, “i thought you said don’t stop.” And she forgave him immediately. *because that’s totally not rape*

[@m_e_nere]

@@emmanuckles2876 tf?

[@emmanuckles2876]

Droka whom is also mol79 exactly

[@Laurtew]

Yeah, that bugs me to no end. If you tell the guy, "no," but mean "yes," that's just freaking mind games! And then if he figures it out and acts on it, but you are still pretending you mean no, now we have rape, but it's supposed to be romantic rape?

[@redt7935]

My number-one romance peeve: "I can fix him." Honey, if he's a jerkwad, do you really think he's just going to change because you love him? No, he's probably going to remain a jerkwad... Yes, you can change some people in some situations. But they generally have to /want/ to change before they actually /can/ change.

[@elizabethclark9930]

"I can fix him!" I cry, gathering the splintered pieces of wood scattered across the clearing. It's little more than kindling, covered in his life-sap. Slivers dig into my hands, and I can barely see through puffy red eyes as I fill my arms. Back at my hut at the edge of the woods, I carefully attempt to piece the body back together, a complex puzzle of twisted branches and gnarled bark. My hearth fire spits fitfully below the large black cauldron, gold-green liquid making heavy *bloop* sounds as it bubbles and swirls. The Raven chained to my bedframe calls loudly, his wings beating a frantic storm as I move towards him, large jagged knife in hand. It's quick. His blood spills over the rough-hewn form, and I hoarsely rasp the ancient words, adding the sap to the mess on my packed earth floor. The branches twitch and groan, snapping back together, the still-green wood fiber meshing anew. He draws breath, and his green-gold eyes flick open.

[@aychazyt6987]

Reminds me of something a pastor preached during church: "His own parents can't even fix him, what makes you think you can? Just break up with him and find a guy that doesn't need fixing"

[@nara9404]

​@@elizabethclark9930is that an actual plot description?

[@elizabethclark9930]

@@nara9404 no, unfortunately, I just got bored 😬

[@nara9404]

@@elizabethclark9930 that's some creative mind you got there, making that up. Sounds like there might be something similar to this somewhere

[@sarawawa8984]

The best part of romances for me is the building towards the romance, the little moments adding up, the slow, mysterious realization of their feelings, the nervousness, all that good stuff

[@zzdaweirdo1120]

*_Y E S H ._*

[@Evarace]

Yeah, slow burn romance is the best romance trope. Just show me a fanfic with "slow burn" tag, and I will definitely read it.

[@dylanwomack8689]

Garnet from Steven Universe sums up why insta-romance isn't real: "Love at first sight doesn't exist. Love takes time, and love takes work. At the very least you have to know the other person... And you literally have no idea who or what I am."

[@digilici951]

Dylan Womack yas double queen

[@turquoisecrow4513]

GEM they didn’t really fall in love at first sight though. It was a moment of mutual panic and instinct that threw them together. Once they fell to earth they spent time working together and decided to try fusing again because it was what they wanted. This is shown with the colors and outfit of garnet being mismatched and out of place looking. But as time goes on it becomes symmetrical and even as they become closer

[@aiden79797]

People confuse "Romance" with "i wanna fuck with you like a rabbit ".

[@naiokaaquarius3433]

Preach

[@kou7191]

@@turquoisecrow4513 The thing is, they didn't propose to eachother instantly, but they did make drastic life changing decisions on a whim for someone they didn't know....so it's kind of a 50/50. Plus it's fusion what brought them together, and we've seen that fusing can be...addictive.

[@Uriel238]

_I don't think this dude needs love. I think this dude needs therapy_ That makes for a good parallel point: Angst-ridden characters that only need a girlfriend / boyfriend and a hug / good long cry and they're all better. Heck, it's happened to Batman. No. They need therapy. Years of therapy.

[@lucia_kidtech]

To quote Heathers (the UK version) "you need help and I'm not qualified"

[@alicat7633]

Batman? What? DC didn’t want him to get married plus Selina is angst ridden and has no idea how to cope, as well. What are you talking about? Was there another really bad depiction of Batman that I missed?

[@Uriel238]

@@alicat7633 In the comics, Batman fell in love with Talia al Ghul. She got pregnant and Bruce straightened right out, hung up the cape and stopped being Batman so he could be Dad. But Talia wanted Batman, not Bruce, so she lied the baby was stilborn and adopted him/her to a well-to-do family. If they ran with BatDad and let his nightmares persist it might have made for an interesting arc, as he confronted his conflicted interests between being dad and punching thugs. The DC writers weren't ready to take that on. Someone should write that thing.

[@alicat7633]

@@Uriel238 oh yeah. There are so many bad Batman take is hard to keep track. Plus I’m not a fan of the whole Bruce/ Talia pairing so I try to avoid that at all costs. That just seems like an annoying writer who doesn’t know Batman which, to be fair, is most writers. Bruce is a good dad and even though They don’t always get along, his kids make him happy. It would be nice if DC would forget about the out of character taking the trauma out on kids thing. Ohh I guess The big wedding did the same thing. Tried to make it so BatCat can’t married because that’ll be the only thing that will make Bruce happy and there can be no Batman with happiness. That’s bullshit for so many reasons. Selina makes him happy but they are not going to fix each other, if DC remembered his family they would remember that his kids make him happy, and if they knew their character they would know that although Bruce becoming Batman came from his trauma it was also to help people and it has become him protecting Gotham. He won’t give that up unless he has too. Side note, Unfortunately for the characters, Harley is probably the only person who could even be a therapist for the batfam.

[@alicat7633]

Sorry that was long. I get passionate about how DC mistreats their characters.

[@pokelolmc6826]

Ugh that cliche where someone accidentally falls on someone else or accidentally gets caught in a scandalous-looking position with someone else and their partner of love interest/crush accidentally walks in on it with the most coincidental timing ever and immediately makes a fuss, coming straight to the conclusion that the other is cheating on them, and runs away without giving a chance for ANY explanation to be given. "BUT WAIT, ITS NOT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, I SWEAR!" One of my pet peeves.

[@yofidelia9684]

Pokelolmc every harem anime ever

[@authorashleyuzzell4016]

Unnecessary miscommunication. Please, please make it stop. Reading about couples in their late twenties all the way up to their mid-forties who have "serious issues" throughout an entire book that could be solved in one conversation, makes me want to punch people.

[@chloemcdonald5674]

Don't even get me started on how many wattpad romances that have the following cliches; * Jealous/Vengeful Ex that attempts to ruin their relationship *Best Friend ends up sleeping with female protagonist's old brother or hooks up with their ex. *Male protagonist has "emotional trauma". *The "he's an alpha" crap. *Girl goes back to abusive boyfriend/husband because she thinks there's still a good side to them. (Honey you need help if you're writing about that. ಠ╭╮ಠ )

[@kutechickable]

Chloe McDonald I feel like the last one could work if it was serious about the abuse and what a survivor goes through rather then painting it as a romance

[@chloemcdonald5674]

I guess so if you think about it in that way. However I listed that cliche since I find that its overused a bit too much and mostly for attention reasons.

[@smritiid3697]

Reminds me of "Fifty shades"crap.

[@chloeb6093]

Chloe McDonald wait is the male protagonist with trauma that bad? I’m writing my first book and it’s kinda like that...

[@eospolaris9472]

@@chloeb6093 I wouldn't say that's always bad. It's only bad when the male character has a trauma, but then he meets his "true love" and suddenly all his problems are gone. Because...that's not how overcoming trauma works. Sure, a partner can provide emotional support, but usually you'd need professional help to overcome it. But as long as you portray this realistically, I don't think it will be a problem

[@soloragoldsun2163]

Let's not forget the best friend character who is always in love with the protagonist. Or the fact that, once the two love interests start flirting, interacting with anyone else of the opposite gender becomes a crime punishable by bitchiness!

[@lizmoore3403]

YAS both of those are so true it hurts. 😭

[@daddeezgirl626]

Even though I love story's of best friends falling in love, I hate it when one of the best friend are in love with the other person from the beginning. I wanna see them falling in love over time. In a pace that fits the book, none of that insta-love crap

[@erickvillagomez70]

haha amazing. I'd read a toxic relationship book that focuses on a toxic relationship

[@LightSoul13]

You mean like Percy and Annabeth? You could say that they took their time falling for each other.

[@iwakeupandboomimarat]

im writing a story where the two mcs have been best friends since they were born and eventually fall in love, but there isnt a insta-romance (i hope)

[@avathequeen14]

"I'm sorry, but I don't think this dude needs love. I think this dude needs therapy." Iconic.

[@hesterhester8812]

Lmao when Jenna said “Eyes up here, lady.” I was looking through the comments.

[@kimara4083]

Lol

[@PixieoftheWood]

I'd rather see more *complete* love triangles, where the two guys being strung along end up with each other instead.

[@KeylyRoseWolf]

The Vampire Diaries

[@Lyphonix]

"Carry On" by Rainbow Rowell kind of....? Although you probably mean with a female lead. The reason I say kind of is because in my opinion the female which once was a love interest was not a powerful enough figure in the development of romance.

[@queenkatara7861]

Legend of Korra.

[@DepressedOptimist]

_LOK's romance between korra and Asami was one of the weakest relationships I have ever seen_ _there was absolutely no built up, all the relationships in the show are trash my least favorite being Mako x anyone since he's a dick_

[@queenkatara7861]

+Depressed Optimist I wouldn't say no build up. There were many little moments throughout book 3 and 4. They couldn't have the most fleshed out romance because Bryke had to be more subtle because of Nickelodeon. Also, it doesn't help that Bryke sucks at writing in romances. Heck, Zuko and Katara is probably the most well developed couple in both shows and they didn't even like each other (or at least in Bryke's mind. Not in all the other cast crew members' minds). To me, Korrasami seemed better developed than Kataang, so I ship them. Maybe the comics will do them more justice.

[@kirtemoon529]

"You are mine, I am yours" Literally the first thing I thought of was "I was meant to be yours, we were meant to be one, don't give up on me now, finish what we've begun, you were meant to be mine, I am all that you need, you cut open my heart, don't just leave me to bleed" from 'Meant To Be Yours' from Heathers:The Musical

[@ThePervinca99]

Katie Bedard I read this singing.

[@batgirl5751]

Really? I thought I was the only one who thought that!!

[@memereview9803]

yEET

[@sukkavore4705]

I’ve found my people.

[@yadagasai9304]

“Veronica open the door please” XD

[@meimei6769]

Fanfics: *knows boy for a week* "I love you date me" "I love you too" *kiss is fireworks* Pls stopppppp

[@piggylady225]

Mei Suratinoyo For some perspective, my boyfriend and I were exclusively friends for two years before we started dating. I don’t expect people to wait that long, but WAY more than a week is needed.

[@zenabsalim9597]

Fire works looooooollll

[@alicat7633]

Yeah but those tend to come from beginners.

[@SSSoto17]

While watching this video, Twilight and 50 Shades of Grey kept popping into my head... My, I wonder why

[@JennaMoreci]

Sabrina Soto LOL!

[@RussianStyleParties]

+Sabrina Soto And also "The Selection" series :D

[@horrored3019]

+Sabrina Soto haha yes!! i commented before i read yours. great minds :)

[@horrored3019]

+Sabrina Soto haha yes!! i commented before i read yours. great minds :)

[@Linda-cj3rw]

Sabrina Soto After, hush hush, twilight, 50 shades of grey, (insert a random shitty book of wattpad), etc. pumped into my head when she said that, don't get me started with love triangles, I want to kill someone when I am hearing of it.

[@coolbanana165]

It's always annoying when people (normally a woman) gets pissy over something that happened, or something they saw, and don't wait for an explanation. The guy tries to explain, and she's like "Uh, I don't want to talk to you". I don't get people who don't want to hear what someone else has to say, and just assume the worst.

[@oracle5044]

coolbanana165 oh my god. I just facepalm so hard when that shit happens. Like just talk damn it.

[@coolbanana165]

So much BS happens in stories because people don't talk.

[@GuiSmith]

I will never write in this cheap cliche to any of my stories. Too soap opera. Even a telenovela- you know, Spanish "soap opera"- will not have excommunication over something stupid and simple. They'll fight first, like in reality.

[@amiyarose9140]

I know! All I ever see is that the popular rich snotty girl kisses the male love interest without his consent and the female love interest just so happens to walk by and see them. Then the male love sees her and immediately stops everything to go run up to her to explain that the snotty girl kissed him and he didn't kiss back but the girl love just runs away crying while screaming "I HATE YOU!". At the end the male explains what happens and then they instantly become lovers again! They could've solved it instantly but no! More drama! UHGJSHAJKHDWHJM I HATE IT!

[@sonnyaguilar5593]

*Akane Tendo* from _Ranma 1/2_

[@miapendragon5931]

What I find most annoying is when the gorgeous male protagonist falls madly for the unnatractive female, and she has NO personality. I honestly couldn't care less about the appearance difference, like it happens, some hot guys do fall for ugly girls and vice versa -- but it's the fact that the insecure, unattractive girl has absolutely NOTHING else to recommend her. She's so often just bland. Like you can look past appearance if there's character, genuine goodness etc, but not when the person is horrifically insecure and nothing else 😂

[@paradoxacres1063]

That's basically the Mary Sue --so bland & hollow literally _any girl_ can put herself in the Mary Sue's shoes. (It's kinda good for Video game Protagonists, though)

[@TheDawnofVanlife]

Yes, when the only relatable quality is his/her insecurity (cause also see geeky guy gets hot chick) and the two characters have nothing in common, there's no reason to believe in the attraction. Couples that don't make "visual' sense to us (hot vs. Not so much) do happen, but usually because they connected over some other commonality.

[@thatcatholicgirl5675]

Did you mean: The Twilight Saga

[@bubbletea6320]

if you do end up making the gorgeous guy fall for the average girl please just give her some fkn personality at best

[@FlameUser64]

Love triangles suck. Gotta agree there. Love _squares_ can be funny though. Person A loves person B who loves person C who loves person D who loves person A. And from a fanfic writer's perspective, it has the added bonus that you can do an everybody wins ending without anyone being sent off alone. Because you know fanfics with romance subplots always have to end with everyone paired off. (I'm kidding of course. I know that's a pretty stupid trope.)

[@MariaThePotterNut]

Miraculous Ladybug man, it takes the love rectangle trope and has so much fun with it and makes it amazing. Marinette is Ladybug. Adrien is Chat Noir. Marinette and Adrien are classmates and sort of friends, would be closer but Marinette (and Adrien too a bit) is very shy. Ladybug and Chat fight crime and protect Paris together. They have no idea who the other is. Marinette loves Adrien. Adrien loves Ladybug. Marinette is wrapped up in Asrien to fully notice Chat and sees him as mildly annoying. Adrien wants to get to know Marinette more, but only really has eyes for Ladybug. It's fantastic.

[@dreamy9975]

Miraculous Ladybug definitely has a great love square. The show can be kind of basic, but the next season is going to bring a lot more to the table.

[@edgelord_emmyemmy]

I have a love triangle with three people fighting for one girl help me

[@renejones1426]

Emmykins I believe one would say that she has a 'harem'. Not that large of one, but definitely a harem.

[@henrikgenzink2304]

FlameUser64 They work in GRRMs work because he has a shit tonne of experience with those. Just read Dying of the light.

[@bishfish7726]

Instalove is only bad when it's not acknowledged as instalove by the book and is treated as a healthy relationship. If the author acknowledges it as instalove, it can work. Like in Heathers the movie, there's instalove between two characters, but it's treated as such.

[@pikapower_kirby]

diefacingourfoes There's a series called "The Lunar Chronicles" that i'm a pretty big fan of and in the second book two characters fall in love pretty quickly. The thing is, the author set things up in such a way that it didn't feel like an insta-romance, and the characters even acknowledge doubts they may have had with starting a relationship so quickly.

[@rheachristinevictor6440]

Pikapower Kirby I loved the second book as well! My favourite amongst the whole series

[@annajansen6945]

Hellena Lawliet wow that's creepy.. was this written by a woman or a man? I could imagine the author to be a rapist or a traumatized victim of sexual assault that got a kind of stockholm-syndrom...in the last case, i would feel sad for the author. But sadly, our generation likes fifty shades of grey, where a man stalks a woman and wonders why she cries, after she beat him... i don't know why humans are so brainwashed in 21st century and this shit goes on and on

[@hellenalawliet7806]

maria bronowski The author is a 13 year old girl... I know, I had the same reaction. The best part of it is that she's writing a few stories on wattpad and all of them are marked 18+. I don't understand how can you write something when you yourself are underage for that... :/

[@annajansen6945]

Hellena Lawliet well shit...society is brainwashing girls or this 13-year old girl has been molested and is now psychologically tormented..

[@GhostofaFangirl]

Why have abs when you can have cute little squishy tummys

[@digilici951]

appreciate kim seokjin YES YES Y E S SQUISHY TUMMIES ARE CUTE

[@brunayamaguchi9664]

Tummies are way better to hug :3

[@supernova6694]

THANK YOU. I hate abs and I'm so glad my boyfriend is more on the chubby side. He's insecure about it but I keep telling him that I love it more than anything else. People have types and I belong to the chubby body fan base ^^

[@melody_btsrocktheworld781]

Thats my kind of cuddly

[@river-sama7681]

i know right?? i wouldn't mind dating a guy with abs if i liked him enough but squish tummies always capture my heart

[@snowyowl1375]

Ugh the worst one is the a**hole one. I've always hated that trope.

[@snowyowl1375]

+89taklung I still prefer not to read about that trope. SOMETIMES it can be done well but must of the time it just ends up annoying me.

[@snowyowl1375]

89taklung Yeah!

[@warlordera5409]

Most romance manga I read always has that kind of guy and I absolutely hate it. He always has a tragic past and acts like a jerk but the girl chases him like a puppy.

[@snowyowl1375]

+WarLorad Era Yeah! It's so annoying!

[@idontneedaname318]

I confuse the asshole trope with a number of other tropes which I actually like

[@amipop1108]

I just found your channel, and you just slayed. Literally, all of these are my pet peeves for romances. Pisses me the fuck off.

[@JennaMoreci]

+amipop1108 twins!

[@melaniesiddall1106]

same

[@oliviamunoz6980]

same

[@arianabarlow4440]

EX-FRIGGIN-ACTLY

[@tayleenorman3171]

amipop1108 lol I absolutely love this and agree with everything! Except the obsession thing. It's a fetish....*sighs

[@kutechickable]

I’d love to see a love triangle thing where *Guys look expectantly* Girl: what? Guys: choose Girl: between you two Guys: yes Girl walks away in disbelief because she doesn’t want either of them

[@alize0623]

I once wrote a one-sided love short story for a high school creative writing class. You feel bad for the guy at first because he makes it seem like she was a goddess and he adored her but she abandoned him, but then it turned out that she left because he was an asshole to her and only liked her for superficial reasons.

[@andielon3744]

I know this is late, but would you consider giving me the link to the story? It sounds really interesting.

[@Lilypadtheamazingfox]

Andi Elon same

[@CelestialDraconis]

Everything you said? Twilight in a nutshell.

[@MissVasques]

MistyEyedDragon Yup. Except she said adventure with romance as subplot. Twilight is romance as main plot and the other stuff is sub. But yeah, Twilight have many many flaws but I still enjoy delving into its world’ from time to time, mostly the movies and sometimes the books. Sometimes you just want to relax your mind and enjoy the eyecandy and various emotions. If you want something complicated and with depth, choose something else.

[@RosalindGriffith]

Yesssssssssss

[@jpalpharo4304]

MissVasques I tried reading the book and stopped half way, Bella’s narrative voice made me feel slow and aggravated

[@ohhanna3927]

Yup

[@dianahague1]

MissVasques I never even TOUCHED the books or movies.

[@modern_disposition]

“Abs abs abs abs abs abs abs abs abs abs abs abs” So basically Riverdale

[@harshasewlani5312]

I think you forgot about boobs boobs boobs

[@eloracamille1526]

You're so right! There's this site called wattpad where me and some friends write on but literally every popular book has at least 5 of these things in it, sometimes all of them. It's so boring and annoying! Why are the top 5 most popular books all about the popular boy who falls in love with the nerd of the school? That's so unrealistic!

[@snowyowl1375]

I agree! It's such a shame that most of the popular stuff goes with stupid romantic tropes, and most good stories remain unpopular and undiscovered!

[@dexdenex5465]

I believe that "popular kid falls for the nerd" could work if the characters were written out in a way that makes them sympathetic and likeable while still remaining realistic

[@jadewaitwhat9167]

What's your account on WattPad?

[@SP-mf9sh]

Lol the dumb love triangles More Like I can't decide between which person I benefit from more

[@triprs4896]

Truer words... -)))

[@avalasialove]

The movie "Wonder" actually subverted the "Unnecessary Miscommunication" trope. I'm honestly impressed especially because the two characters are actually in high school. Seriously, two high schoolers managed to be more mature than most adults in romance stories.

[@anothergamer112]

Haven't seen that movie, but if I had to guess: one contacts the other and they schedule to meet up somewhere later where they discuss the issue and sort things out like adults with some semblance of emotional intelligence.

[@MidnightDawn]

Low-key the book is better..........

[@coolskelleton95]

What part of the movie was that? I read the book but I don't really remember much.

[@vicenteisaaclopezvaldez2450]

A love triangle is honestly an interesting situation: If the triangle is linear (A => B => C) the dynamic works very differently than if the triangle is convergent (A => B B => C => A), and I've honestly never seen a cyclic love triangle where there's rivalry, imagine the possibilities, the drama! The pain of getting rejected with a punch to the face, or punching a guy you thought was trying to mess with you just to find out not only he was your crush's crush but that you were his crush.

[@leeannapolinares6786]

Vicente isaac Lopez valdez That's why the only love triangle I approve is in The Legend Of Korra.

[@bryanmcclure2220]

my God she got all the points that I hate about romantic novels it's like she read my mind

[@thunderbird1921]

The other point she didn't include is when they go overboard on the sappy romantic moments, even with married couples. For example one moment you'll have some flirting, the next they're both on the floor play-wrestling with the girl shrieking with laughter and a passionate kiss at the end. Romantic films do stuff like this often, and for some reason it's considered "hot" (to me it's creepy and very sexually suggestive). Both sides can deeply love each other without losing their self-control. Plus, it makes the relationship seem much more erotic, not agape as it should be.

[@amity_odae]

"He doesn't need love, he needs THERAPY." Thank you. This made my day.

[@hibikimiyamoto300]

“Abs are great. I’m a fan.” Best line

[@higwinslowe]

As a teenager on wattpad I am extremely surprised my plot doesn't fit any of these.

[@julietfischer5056]

I see a future for you in writing.

[@morganmiller5413]

I've surprised myself watching these videos as well.

[@viviantran7063]

What’s your account?

[@memereview9803]

all of these replies are moods

[@viviantran7063]

MEME REVIEW and so is yours lol

[@natz3284]

I'm kinda writing a story where "I'm Yours/You're Mine" is kind of a cultural thing, and while there are asshats who perceive it as "mine to own", the real meaning that most people see it is as is "mine to cherish, to love, and to protect", and there is a clear understanding that this is a mutual thing and that the two parties are equal. Does that sound okay?

[@MarkosDantes]

Ooo! I love the idea of it as a cultural thing! I think that sounds fine, just make sure to state what it actually means to the people in your book!

[@somegirl4631]

yea, actully in my country its part of marrige to say some of those lines but it translate badly becuose there is no english equvalent word

[@somegirl4631]

we call "a husbend" an "owner" but not as something like i own you crap, but beacuse it translates bad, the real meaning is that he is responsible to the well being of his wife more than his own, and he should chearish her more than anything he have in this world as his present from GD

[@Garden0flowr]

It could be confusing if done wrong but if done right and fully explained its kinda wholesome

[@somegirl4631]

@@valhatan3907 yea, thanks, I know, the translation is terrible 😂 but it's fine, most words that are translated from Hebrew to English or the opposite sounds REALLY bad since the culture is different and the meaning of words is too. for example, last week I went on a trip in Hungary, beautiful place, I was on a public bus and I noticed one olderly woman was standing while everyone else were sitting, most of them younger than her. now in Israel it's something this kind of situation would make a public rage (I'm not kidding) since it's the BASIC in our culture to respect the elderly, I was horrified (😂🤦🏾‍♀️) to see her standing, in my country 10 other people would already give their sits,its one if the most impolite things to sit in a bus and let someone older than you stand, we even have stickers in every bus in my country "get up, before an elder" it's a verse, part of the Tanack (elder also means wise person since elders are mostly count as the wisest with the most experience, so even here the translation is bad) so of course I immediately got up and offered her my place 🤦🏾‍♀️😂😂 it didn't go well, it appears that it looked... bad to offer her my place? as if I was mocking her for her age? (which was obviously the opposite) it happened to me again when I tried to help some elder women to take her things up the stairs, in Israel its, again, not only exept but the NORM, in Hungary she looked at me as if saying "are you mocking me for my age?" I tried to explain that's it's a "mizva" for me, meaning it's something good for me to help, it's something common we say in Israel to people that don't want to help, it's as if I'm saying "I'm not helping to you so you have nothing to be ashamed of, I'm just earning good points from G d, it's you that help me become a better person." it also didn't translate well and she just left as if she didn't understand a word 😂😂 I guess words have different connotations in different cultures and that's why we are so weirded when hearing their meaning in other cultures.

[@mandarinas1828]

Every single person in wattpad should watch this video

[@psychwardpussyeater]

Lucre serio Not me, my book is pretty horrorish the more you think about it. It's not even romance. It's psychological horror.

[@hoelywonu6669]

I have lmao and my fanfics arent like that but a fanfic is a fanfic so ye

[@LIGYARU]

Do women really get excited when they see a guy shirtless? Is it like when you see a girl topless? Because I've never got that. I just think, 'Oh, that guy has no shirt on' and have no desire to look?

[@naryssa6091]

Well m8 I'm just like you, and I'm ace so you might be asexual like meeee

[@LIGYARU]

WildArtichokes I'm starting to think I might be, but maybe just like... a percent? I don't know how things like that work! Haha I know I am more attracted to women but I thought I was attracted to men too until I heard her say the thing about the shirtless guys. I'm very confused tbh! 💜

[@naryssa6091]

then maybe you're lesbian, idk. it just seems u could be anything but straight *shrug*

[@eldritchthorne]

Well, it kinda falls on what you personally are physically attracted to. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and whatnot. People go with the shirt off in stories constantly because it's a fairly common attraction and it shows the guy takes care of himself physically. It's even that way with females. Ask yourself what attracts you physically to a person without talking to them or knowing anything about them and most likely that's your answer. What guides you to make you want to talk to this person that you've never met before? Don't be confused, it's just preference. Personally, I'm a back and arm person. I ADORE a strong looking back, shoulders and arms on a guy. Not exactly sure why, but that's usually where my eyes gravitate when I see potential eye candy.

[@LIGYARU]

Jessica Thorne Ah, so it's normal to not be bothered by a shirtless guy then? Thanks for explaining! Tbh, I don't usually become attracted to people before knowing them. I'm attracted to kindness, intelligence and uniqueness. So I guess if someone looks interesting. I do like muscely arms too so maybe that's my thing? Haha 😂💜

[@aesop6114]

I REALLY hate the 'you're mine' thing. Like, what? When the male is like, 'You're mine and only mine and not allowed to talk to any guy and if you speak up I get angry,' I really get annoyed.

[@thunderbird1921]

Seriously, what kind of guy talks like that? Even a lot of elderly men I've known don't sound like that. That's NOT a normal dude at all, coming from a guy myself.

[@tomrakebluer1542]

the title of this video should be "Ten things that's wrong with Twilight" hahaha 😂

[@ryanbridges4509]

Yes. Most accurate statement I've ever heard. You win!

[@anothercub6958]

I read twilight breaking dawn in the third grade and didn't realize that Bella and Edward were doing it.

[@erinw.9256]

I read Twilight when it was popular (I was in middle school) and it was just to see what all the hype was about. I was not amused and I wasted a week of good sleep for it.

[@edwardm1326]

I've got a peeve in romances well not exclusively romances. I'm gay and sometimes I want to read books with a gay protagonist. The problem is every book with a gay protagonist is a romance and that's fine but that's usually all the book is, subplots are usually none existent or dull. Another problem is the actual lack of romance, the majority of gay romances I've read the couple is having sex within the first couple of chapters and once they have they do it in every other chapter. Let's have some more romance people, I'm much more interested in reading about two people getting to know each other and going on dates and the like.

[@Simpson17866]

Do you like Doctor Who by any chance? I wrote a fanfiction a while back called Gemini, and I tried to avoid those issues in the two guys' budding relationship: There's no sex at all between them in this first installment, there's no love-at-first-sight (even though it looks like there is at first owing to some time travel shenanigans), their first kiss doesn't magically make them feel better about everything else that's happening, and it's clear at the end that they still have a lot more to get to know about each other for when the initial warm-and-fuzzies novelty wears off. Would you like to take a look?

[@Falkyrja]

I remember reading a scifi book a while back with a gay lead was decent. Wish I could remember what it was called.

[@mouhitorinoboku9655]

check out no.6 it's online in it's original novel form on the blog: 9th-ave.blogspot.com/p/no-6.html

[@syddlinden8966]

Edward M THIS! It's so frustrating to see LGBT+ characters sexually objectified like this and touted as good representation. At that point, do me a favor and don't call it romance, call it what it is, erotica. Same sex pairings aren't actually any different than het pairings, same arguments, same hangups, same process to dating, ultimately. If you're straight and don't jump your partner's bones every second you're with them, why do you think same sex couples do the opposite? I have the same complaint about tv shows. The ones with more LGBT+ rep seem to always be uber sexualized. And the shows that could have great, realistic if dramatic same sex pairings just tease the idea constantly and never freaking just do it. :/

[@TheMymonkey99]

you should try 'Boy Meets Boy' by David Levithan it is beautiful x

[@trucetruce335]

“Kissing is not love, sex is not love.” LOUDER FOR THE LEAD HEADS

[@thunderbird1921]

Tell that to modern Hollywood. They've totally missed the boat.

[@aturninthegameof...4584]

Every Romance Book: Guy: Hey, I just saw you at the pet store, you look pretty, wanna get married? Girl: Of course, random person I don't know! Real Life: Guy: Hey, I just saw you at the pet store, you look pretty, wanna get married? Girl: I'm calling the cops.

[@ラウラ-l9t]

+A Turn In The Game Of... That's 1:1 Romeo and Juliet actually

[@snowyowl1375]

True XD

[@shaelynmartin1996]

Actually no. That's 1.1.1 of Romeo and Juliet. Gotta know which line you're referring to. ;P

[@KAl-vf1dz]

Actually, it has happened at least once in real life - the story of Buddy Holly.

[@jessicadrew5531]

I wrote a story with a love interest that was doing all the annoying love interest dude stuff, just so I could write the main character not care for him....because that's what would actually happen.

[@MGComics]

Jessica Drew I write things like that too😂 Because It's true!

[@feyasatos]

"Love Triangles" *Terrible writing advice has entered the chat*

[@iamxeracon]

Ah, I see you are also a writer of culture.

[@ursulajoni15]

I hate that trope where someone thinks their boy/girlfriend is cheating because of some crazy misunderstanding, it uselessly makes the accuser look stupid and paranoid, they jump to the conclusion that their partner is cheating WAY faster than any rational person would cheating in general annoys me it's so often a lazy cop-out, want to break up the love interest's relationship make the rival a cheater , want to ad drama without exploring your charters have one of them cheat, doesn’t matter if it completely out of character or if the person has something else that could add dram while staying in character like workaholic tendencies or emotional barriers

[@Galastel]

Othello?

[@ursulajoni15]

Too be fair Othello was meant to be seen as being stupid and paranoid. I meant when the Author wants you to simpathise with the character

[@ElfQuestComicDubFamily]

I feel like if it can be useful under certain circumstances. I resolve the conflict pretty quickly without dragging out the whole “but I thought you were cheating on meeeee” bullshit. I utilize that tool just to make Characters A & B realize stuff about their relationship and become closer in the long run.

[@KindredKeepsake]

I wish people would stop mentioning Wattpad. We get it, teens are capable of great cringe. But x amount of years ago, most of us WERE those teens. Show some humility, folks. T_T"

[@eliza2247]

Exactly! When I was 12/13 I didn't know about Wattpad (I don't even know if it existed at the time). I wrote my stories in a notebook and thank goodness I did. The cringe is real.

[@aaliyahfrancois3118]

Thank you this had to be said... I've read on wattpad for 6 years now and some content is actually really good and that's why authors take their work down to have it published... and other times we have people testing their skills sometimes for fun or just make a fool of themselves... but my point is no one should be subjected to one group.

[@emmanuckles2876]

DeadRoses Ever read the Silence is Golden books? (I don’t remember the first book’s name) It’s a nice read but as almost every book or movie, the later books aren’t as good.

[@Dreigonix]

If I had known about Wattpad back then, that would absolutely have been me. XD

[@sofiarodriguezsantiago5403]

Thank you for saying this.

[@ToriDeWriter]

Honestly best thing about Valentines Day is the discounted candy the day after. Hahaha

[@OitaOscar]

1.insta-romance, 2.mind blowing sex, 3.love triangle, 4. anatomically obsessed, 5.incorrect or uncommon anatomical descriptions, 6.unbalanced couples, 7.assholism as selling point, 8.unnecessary miscommunication, 9.insanely long cat and mouse chases, 10.ownership and obsession. Hmmm. I think it would make an awesome sex comedy if I managed to work all ten into a single book.

[@JennaMoreci]

野口仁志 Satire erotica! Do it do it!

[@OitaOscar]

I just might do that. BTW, how many subplots are feasible for a relatively short book? (80K-90K words, say. Maybe 80K x three volumes trilogy. Not a Game of Thrones epic). I have a sneaking suspicion that Batman plus Robin plus Two Face plus Riddler plus Dr. Chase Meridian is bit too much (those are not characters for the sex comedy, though come to think of it...)

[@JennaMoreci]

I honestly couldn't tell ya. All my books are long. :-\ Some books don't have any subplots!

[@OitaOscar]

I just thought it might be a topic for one of your vlogs. Learning about crafting sentences now. I realized I've been doing it all wrong.

[@jillianh7565]

Obsession could work if you give your readers/viewers a reason to believe that it is either part of the plot or a starting point in a character arc. For example, in my groups Curse of Strahd campaign the "following my character around" etc. is done to show that her love interest (Alexander) is vey similar, if not a mirror to the villain, Strahd Von Zarovich. Since Strahd is Alexander's older brother it makes sense that they may have similar tendencies but different motivations and feelings regarding the situation. While Alexander has similar tendencies to Strahd, he tries to overcome them and shows embarrassment and distress when he falls into his vampiric tendencies. This is framed by the PC playing Alexander as an internal battle between nature vs nurture. And what’s great too is my character calls this other PC out when he acts like Strahd and actually gets scared when things go too far. At that point the two characters talk it out and fix whatever the situation was.

[@faecreature21]

..... I think I kind of love you. Thank you for this.

[@JennaMoreci]

+faecreature21 I do what I can :P

[@mikhail7104]

Was this a pun?

[@pyjamacritic1171]

Me too, loved her since I saw her, oops.

[@RonaldWeasleysWife]

Michel lol what do you mean? What are you referring to? 😋

[@jasmeetk0]

I am not a Penguin Not gonna make a nice story, pal. Not cool. ;P

[@hello99127]

I'm single and I still love Valentine's day...or, more specifically, I love right afterwards where they discount all the leftover candy.

[@FoenyxFeather]

Omg somebody said it! LOVE TRIANGLES SUCK! Someone playing around with two people's emotions is not remotely pleasant for someone to read! If I come across a book like that, unless the story with the love triangle is written that way for the sake of some massively impressive moral lesson, I'm going to avoid the book series AND the author!

[@JennaMoreci]

+Stacey Koch preach!

[@sailorspaghetti2376]

Romance novel idea where instead of the love triangle being a thing where a girl strings two guys along and creates this jealousy and competition thing, all three of them have a mature conversation and end up in a polyamorous triad.

[@somedragonbastard]

Alternate Idea- girl realizes she's aro/ace and gets a cat. guys in the love triangle realize they're gay and were fighting to impress each other. voila beautiful ending.

[@21melpomene]

My cousin is doing this in one of her stories. I am beyond excited. For multiple reasons.

[@adamuffoletto7869]

Sense8. That's literally Kala's arc in Sense8 and it's amazing

[@cintiatchorbadjian592]

"They only like each other because they're hot. They fall in love really quickly, and for absolutely no reason" -- that's Shatter Me summed up in one line. It's so accurate it is almost scary, haha

[@cgphotoandfilm]

Omg right!

[@nara9404]

The book with an eye on it? Is that the one?

[@cintiatchorbadjian592]

@@nara9404 Yes, that's the one

[@KittyxGrimm]

One of these days I’d like to see characters in a love-triangle just come out and say “fuck it” and give into some good old-fashioned polyamory.

[@sunnysodapop]

whats polymory??? is that like a threesome ?

[@KittyxGrimm]

sunnysodapop You could say that. Polyamory basically means to be with more than one person at once, sexually or romantically.

[@sunnysodapop]

Kitty Grimm Oh....O.o well, that's an interesting word to use

[@KittyxGrimm]

sunnysodapop Just so we’re clear, also, polyamory ≠ cheating. Polyamorous folks tend to be more honest with their partners about seeing other people. Cheaters are not. That’s what makes them cheaters. Just felt I needed to clarify that.

[@ohnojo5313]

sunnysodapop Not really an interesting word, it's the proper word.

[@mipmipsyt4124]

I'd rather read a story where some jerk needs friendship instead of love. I think it's so much more meangingful, idk why. -also i'm late forgive me-

[@nemesisslayer863]

I did that in a red dead rp

[@blackishstone4092]

6:28 Not gonna lie, the moment you said that I was _literally_ JUST thinking, "He doesn't need love. He needs therapy" And then you finished and I got freaked out.

[@Emilie13love]

I agree with your opinion on love triangles with the girl or the guy being in love with two people at once and can’t decide because that’s just dumb. But if the triangle is more like the guy or girl has already decided on who they want and it’s the third party trying to work their way in, I think that could be some really cool drama that can be developed. Or if the girl or guy doesn’t like either of them or if they’re unhappy in their current relationship and are trying to find ways of being with the one they love. They could be in a toxic relationship and are trying to find ways to escape and be with the love interest of the story. Or the main character could be the one making the relationship toxic and are fighting to keep their partner with them. With love triangles, the sky’s the limit with different ways you can construct them and make them interesting. Don’t just make it the generic “I can’t decide” trope. The triangle in my story is that the main girl is in love with a guy and he already loves someone else and she’s trying to learn to accept that

[@eosofspades_357]

I love that kind of triangle. In my story, the main character, Ashley, is already dating Lukas, and the third party is Lukas's brother Jared, who has a massive crush on Ashley. The drama is really fun to write, too. Ashley and Lukas have a huge fight about something (still haven't decided what), Ashley goes to a party to distract herself, and ends up getting drunk and kissing Jared. Then when Jared and Lukas get into a fight, Jared throws it in his face that he and Ashley kissed, which spirals into this major fight between their entire friend circle as they all pick sides. Best love triangle, 10/10

[@anothercub6958]

What about person A likes person B, but person B likes person C, but person C likes person A

[@mmmknees4669]

@@anothercub6958 You literally just described my love square? dimond? rhombus? Idk but you described it. (Anthony likes Re, Re likes James, James likes Toni and Toni likes Anthony)

[@cockycookie1]

@@eosofspades_357 question: If they're brothers, why would they fight over some girl?

[@crim899]

@@eosofspades_357 this is old, but I agree with Corlys. Why doesn't Jared accept that Ashley will not like him because she's with his brother? Have you looked into this being a possible obsession for him -- to the point where it's toxic/unhealthy? Is there a good reason why Ashley kisses Jared? Because -- inserting my own opinion for a second -- I hate the cliche where the mc (often female + male since I haven't seen this done with other types) kisses the friend or a/the brother of their boyfriend (or a random boi) in a 'we had a fight and now I hate him _oh and I'm drunnnnnnnk!'_ type of fashion. But most people in stable and healthy relationships don't get space for themselves and immediately invalidates their relationship at a party, drunk. This is how you create someone's a worse relationship nightmare. Adding to that mess is a kinda terrible cliche that has the MC usually just invalidating her boyfriend's feelings with an 'it didn't mean anything!' and doesn't try to understand how this could have _serisously_ hurt her boyfriend. Also, why does she not tell him before his brother holds it over his head? There's a lot of trope potential in your plot... and most (or all) are cliches. Overall; I'm pretty sure I've read this on Wattpad before.

[@chbthalia9006]

I like the stories with unexpected love triangles, like one character has the mind set on another, they get together, and suddenly their other friend is all like "NUUU BUT I LUVED U" *walks off into the sunset heartbroken* 😂

[@faithkidwell9757]

Jenna: don't just make them dancing around their feelings for three books Percabeth: huh? Uncle rick: (pushes them to the side)

[@thebeansaregone]

*takes 10 books, plus bonus books inbetween the series for percy to say "I love you" to annabeth* but hey, personally, I like a slow burn romance

[@thegillmachine]

I think it’s a little different because they’re children in the first books. Way too young to really understand their feelings

[@lucia_kidtech]

It's kind of a more realistic showing off that uncomfortable what are my feelings? Or I'm still discovering myself and my feelings! Thing that lots of people experience when they are real young.

[@extremelyhappysimmer]

now i want to write a story with a guy who has abs and describe them to the point that it becomes mundane. like, from top to bottom they were exactly 34.7894 cm and the hex code of his skin color was 563286 etc

[@courtneyj9906]

"the hex code of his skin color" XD I now want to describe all of my characters like this as a joke.

[@GuiSmith]

I want to develop a ridiculously complicated hexadecimal-like colour coding system for my character that sees a different spectrum of light than us humans and do this at least one.

[@RemiBrokenWing]

Your dude is purple, it's really hard to be mundane when you're purple. Also, this is amazing.

[@deffdefying4803]

Wait, is the 34.7894cm referring to the length of the abs or the length of the dude WITH the abs? Because that's a fucking tiny dude let me tell you rn

[@samanthaelle5610]

He has 37737 hair

[@RegencyLady-ho2ik]

Main romance, first kiss over 3 months after meeting and a few dates with no declaring if love, just that they do enjoy each others company and want to spent time together, met in early September and first kiss near Christmas, no love triangles, guy does not have abs and girl cares more for personality and vice versa, don't have sex in the story, they do after as they have children a few years later, characters aren't insecure about looks, neither is horrible, they are kind-hearted outcasts, who are asocial introverts, don't have pointless drama, are very mature over any issues, like I said, took 3 months to finally get together which happens over first 150 pages. don't have ownership over each other. good I was so relived when you said these and realised I haven't done any of your points as they are my peeves too!!

[@miamia8912]

Niffler1997 I want to read about this couple.

[@glo5643]

Make this a book please!

[@miapendragon5931]

Niffler1997 shit this just sounds like my relationship 😂

[@yinsiade7785]

What’s the main conflict, if you don’t mind me asking? Is the main focus the buildup of their relationship? (Which is totally fine!)

[@rayclover2726]

'Kissing and sexing is not love.' Thank you, thank you for finally saying it.♥️

[@crybaby2047]

"Human she-turd." I died lol I love Jenna

[@tayleenorman3171]

Maddie Starratt same

[@sophiatalksmusic3588]

You know what annoys me? Those high school romances where both characters just so happen to have the same school schedules. What are the odds?

[@goldegreen]

I know right? I'd much rather have them only be in 2,1,or even 0 classes together.

[@TheCapedWriter]

I think with romance you just write a friendship with more kissing, right?

[@cockycookie1]

that's one option

[@c00kie18]

@Sky Cookies s m u t

[@krabcuno7113]

Sounds like a friends with benefits thing

[@thunderbird1921]

It's actually far more beautiful than that in some cases. It's a constantly mutual display of caring about the other person, even in the roughest moments of life. They'll call each other their "greatest earthly friend" for obvious reasons. Some of the stories involving World War II veterans and their spouses I've read show this. Some of those ladies were willing to help care for their husbands if they came back with life altering injuries or severe PTSD (and didn't love them any less). Few today it seems want to make that extra effort.

[@animeotaku307]

IMHO, I'd love to have a love triangle where the girl is polyamorous, but feels pressured to pick one. She tells both dudes and they decide that it's stupid to compete (especially since they know the other and know they good guys), so they a-okay a polyamorous relationship.

[@franziska9260]

LegalAssassin I saw a fan fiction of this, and it was a great read

[@tomchandler5907]

I have a feeling the asshole thing goes all the way back to Wuthering Heights, which was never supposed to present Heathcliff as a good person or someone worthy of love. People have read into it and now people count him and Cathy as a fantastic relationship

[@FuzzyTrekkie]

You know what's a guaranteed way to get rid of the love triangle? Polyamory. I mean, I'm aware that monogamy is the norm in most modern Western cultures, and if your story is based in a time and place where that's to be expected, then go with it. However, if you're writing a fantasy or science fiction novel, you have the opportunity to do anything you want when it comes to designing your culture and how it views romantic relationships, why not have non-monogamous relationships a thing? At the very least, it'll be a good plot twist.

[@alejandrabrotorubio2272]

I have always hoped than the autor will chose that option instead of the anoying love triangle, but It never happens

[@Laurtew]

I have wondered why we've not seen that. "I cannot decide between you two men." "Then take us both. I agree Sven is a darn attractive man and we can make this work." Nope. 300 pages of, "Oh, whatever shall I do?"

[@LadyWisteriaa]

@@Laurtew there are plenty of books. People just judge them for not being the norm and they never get popularized

[@saundramonette4137]

Ooh , that’s actually a really cool idea for a non-Western based world.

[@moonpiryohae]

I agree

[@essennagerry]

Insta romances actually do happen in real life (and last a lifetime), but... but... why write about it? There's not much to write about! It's quite instant! How do you expect to fill up a whole book with an instant romance when not even the people who are living it can't give that much info out. But you know what they do say? It's still a lot of work! But you don't see that in instant romance stories, you see a fairytale you can't possibly connect to if you enjoy coherency just a little bit.

[@k5rakitan]

I want to read about love triangles that are solved with polyamory.

[@fluffhead6757]

YES THANK YOU FOR SAYING IT. Every time there's a love triangle, I'm internally screaming "POLY RELATIONSHIPS EXIST DAMMIT" XD

[@frogsnack7072]

Wait who the fukk is Gwen?

[@gracefuldisaster5161]

Frog Snack From the comic books. You might see her in the movies, but it's been a while since I've seen them. Anyways, I believe Gwen was Spiderman's first love interest. Have you heard of Spider-Gwen?

[@frogsnack7072]

oh man I don't remember her, I just read it for the fighting back in the day and never in sequence lol. Thanks for answering me!

[@m.m.i.9586]

There is an old musical about that called "Paint your wagon."

[@Coelacanthimorpha]

Love triangles have always profoundly confused me, even as a little kid. I´m sure the princess is rich enough to feed two princes, if she loves both of them ^^

[@MultiTaylorswift1234]

Funny how "Twilight" has nearly all of your peeves. Please tell me you don't like that series.

[@MegaToonzNetwork]

Twilight: Evolution

[@Tengila]

As far as I'm concerned, the Twilight series is the "My Immortal" of professional fiction - complete garbage.

[@kawaiikat5404]

My friend told me about that fan-fic XD

[@suzannelaforce6988]

"Twilight" was definitely one of the worst books I've ever read. I was 30 pages into it and the main character was still ruminating, - uh, will her ditsy mom remember to pick up her dry cleaning???... Zzzzzzzzzzz......... [I stopped reading.]

[@rayruth9783]

To be fair, in Twilight Bella DID make a choice - she explicity let everyone know that she liked Edward more than Jacob the entire time. However, her relationship with Edward was pretty much half, if not all, of those pet peeves.

[@syddlinden8966]

The abs thing is also really assumptive. Not EVERYONE is into ripped dudes with hella abs. The writer's idea of sexy is not a universal, it's an opinion, and restating that opinion every time a character walks into, or just through, a room gets old really fast if it's not what you're into.

[@syddlinden8966]

Also, boy fixing isn't healthy. I HATE that trope. SO annoying. Awesome list! (goes to look at full channel)

[@AuroraLalune]

Sydd Linden I know right? I love my squishy nerd. That's my sexy. Hard abbs... Cants be very soft... I like at least a little squish. If you can bounce a nickle off those abbs... That's actually NOT a turn on for me. More I just wonder how one is expected.to enjoy sleeping with a statue.

[@kylpyvene]

If there's some sort of romance implied in the back cover of the book, half the time I wont read it. Especially if it implies the most cliche heterolovestory, I usually put the book down

[@julietfischer5056]

Some authors probably think there has to be a romantic angle to draw the ladies. Or to give the protagonist a reason to become involved in the situation. We women don't always want a love story. We are perfectly willing to read or watch a movie in which nobody hugs or kisses. If the protagonists are a man and a woman, we don't expect them to be in love at the end. And sometimes authors use a romance angle because they really stink at writing and a love triangle is the only way they can introduce anything resembling emotional stakes to the story. (Yes, I watch the 'Terrible Writing Advice' series.)

[@Alex-cm2ix]

this comment is a year old- but yeah same, I love romance subplots, but when the back cover of the book mentions it, I just don’t want to read it anymore.

[@malevolententity3182]

I know how it feels to have a guy jump into things. he told me he loved me, not even on the first date. it was the first full conversation we had. we had talked twice, and both exchanges were small talk that lasted a few seconds. Talk about creepy

[@MuscadineDreams]

You pretty much described all the recent best sellers hahaha. Twilight and 50 shades of Grey come to mind. I read the first twilight book and like it but hated the second book. Then I read bits of 50 shades to see if I would like it. First off 50 shades is an embarrassment to the BDSM community. I am not part of that community but I know people that are. BDSM is all about trust between the dom and sub. Not doing something extreme because it would make a guy you barely know happy. Plus the writing was terrible. And I agree about instalove. It annoys me to no extent

[@shinyminunthetheatregeek2036]

"Insecurity is unattractive" Me and my gf: * sweating *

[@aleatoriac7356]

1:59 - 2:11 I completely bust out laughing, I couldn't stop, I think the neighbors may have just called the police. Or maybe an ambulance.

[@xxdarkjes294]

hahahahhaa no

[@M.M.Y.B]

Go watch "Miraculous Ladybug" for a unique situation....the love square!

[@karolnowak6423]

Mol Berry That would be more like a rectangle with diagonals, since there are only two actual people in it.

[@digilici951]

For anyone who hasn't seen Miraculous, let me explain. The main protagonist, Marinette, has a superhero alterego, Ladybug. The secondary protagonist, Adrien, also has an alterego as a superhero, Chat Noir. Ladybug and Chat Noir are a super-duo, and Marinette and Adrien go to the same school. Marinette/Ladybug has a major crush on Adrien, and Adrien/Chat Noir is in love with Ladybug. Thing is, they don't know eachother's secret identities. M/L thinks of C as a friend. A/C thinks of M as a friend. It's really complicated.

[@brunayamaguchi9664]

OMG LOVE SQUARE XDDDD BEST TROPE

[@inkphoenix5707]

Yes, the powerful love square between two people. I thought it was interesting too, but very frustrating! I loved it.

[@piggylady225]

I love Miraculous soooooo much!

[@burmessafox3939]

Insta-romances are great when they're one sided and turns stalker/yandere. ...I like dark stories like that

[@shieldgenerator7]

There's a reason its alternate name is "International Singles Awareness Day"

[@centaurus2027]

:/ same face

[@shieldgenerator7]

Black Storm haha

[@centaurus2027]

shieldgenerator7 btw, shouldn't you be going to bed?

[@shieldgenerator7]

Black Storm yes, at that time yes. I was too distracted :P

[@centaurus2027]

shieldgenerator7​ hmm, well you need sleep. Otherwise, your magic wouldn't be as powerful

[@ANoteToSelf]

Hahaha. As always, you just crack me up! Romance (not the stupid crap my grandma reads, but a good story involving a relationship) has gone way downhill. Anyway, thanks for the videos! :)

[@JennaMoreci]

Yeeeaaaaahhhhhh, I think you may be right :-\ So glad you enjoyed the video, though!

[@paradox9478]

I love when love triangles end up being a (healthy) polyamorous relationship, and it is probably the only kind of love triangle I can stand.

[@Lightwaverable]

OMG, I hate number 8! I see it everywhere, at its so stupid!

[@Lightwaverable]

*and

[@KDGalaxyPLUS]

"Listen to me!" "No!"

[@andrewj5465]

+HYPLR lol