Top 10 Plants That Got WORSE In Between Games | Plants VS Zombies

[@GNVS300]

Thanks to Lt Dark Ring for the Jade Cactus nerf stats, the artwork at 12:47 and for pointing out my mistake at 7:17 where I said the Dandelion can "insta kill some *plants* "

[@epicow_1973]

PVZ heroes honestly belongs in S tier for the plants vs zombies games. It has a massive community, maybe even the same size as the PVZ 2 community. Really fun game.

[@Gamertank2.0]

And hey. Puff shroom is s tier there so lets gooo

[@TheJesterFromKirby]

Greatest mobile game of all time!

[@AnAnimatorsWorld]

"It has a massive community" is a massive lie and you know it

[@rigboy1234]

​@@AnAnimatorsWorldIt Is, but at least the community likes Its own game, unlike the PvZ 2 Community

[@AnAnimatorsWorld]

@@rigboy1234 why are you having a go at the PVZ 2 community for no reason?

[@vincenthaynes3603]

Winter Melon: Busted in PVZ1 and PVZ2 Winter Melon in Heroes at Launch: a very weak Legendary, almost the worst of them all being a 7 cost 4/4

[@nickytembo4112]

Scaredy Shroom should have been in Dark Ages.

[@wasabiflame]

@@nickytembo4112 it got patched that jester can now counter scaredy

[@nickytembo4112]

@@wasabiflame But it still doesn’t change the fact that Scaredy Shroom should’ve been added a long time ago.

[@wasabiflame]

@@nickytembo4112 the reason scaredy was scrapped is unknown, but scaredy shroom would still suck in dark ages

[@nickytembo4112]

@@wasabiflame Then should have made the Sun meta 25 just like in PvZ 1

[@wasabiflame]

@@nickytembo4112 but still, nights and graves are too bulky for scaredy to counter

[@cetadel6597]

Pea Pod in Heroes is pretty good. It's the poor man's Tricarrotops for a Grass Knuckles deck.

[@monkegaming5091]

Outclassed by clique peas

[@cetadel6597]

@@monkegaming5091 event card

[@EtonDG]

It’s really sad to see that no one cared about boss mode. It was my favorite aspect of the first garden warfare and I was really upset to see that it wasn’t in 2. I think the mode had a lot of potential but because everyone hated it, no one really remembers it anymore😢

[@wasabiflame]

Garlic would fit WAY better than Puff shroom in the thumbnail...

[@GNVS300]

Garlic looks exactly the same in PVZ1 & 2 so that would look weird

[@Justcommentinhere]

​@@GNVS300But puffshroom doesnt have downgrade

[@puzzledhypnoshroom1004]

@@Justcommentinherehe’s worse though

[@Justcommentinhere]

@@puzzledhypnoshroom1004 yes but hes more balanced (caused shrooms dont sleep at day)

[@kolkagaming1234]

@@JustcommentinhereYou also need Plant Food to prevent them from Turning completely Grey eventually despawning.

[@InsertFunnyThingHere]

Another one is Magnet shroom, it basically doesn't have any targets in all of PVZ2 putside of Bucketheads and cheesing a few Punk Zombie levels in NMT while in PVZ1 it wasn't amazing but it basically removes a giant chunk of HP from like half of the actually threatening zombies in that game

[@Gloom_Shroom_Gaming]

I very much agree with that, although magnet shroom was sometimes useful in PvZ2 for dealing with knight zombies in dark ages.

[@InsertFunnyThingHere]

@@Gloom_Shroom_Gaming oh yeah late dark ages is practically designed around you having magnet shroom to the point that it feels like a gigantic hassle of knight spam to beat without it. It's among the most lock-and-key design ass things in this game and it's lame as shit, but legally speaking it counts as magnet shroom doing something so yeah that's cool

[@SandaaaGW2]

Worst downgrade has to be Repeater and Laser Bean from GW1-2, they ended up completely ceasing to exist! At least the potted fire and ice/snow peas lived on in Story mode and obviously their prominent playable Peashooter variant counterparts, the former 2 were thrown in the nearest singularity with not that much notice about their failure to keep going.

[@bilgehankose2006]

Next Top 10 Zombies That Got Worse In Between Games

[@EtonDG]

The football zombie from 1 to 2 is a good example of this

[@roxbianne]

worse as in “AAAH BIGGER PROBLEM NOW” or “very mild inconvenience”

[@greeddydude]

Zomboss💀

[@lizzybach4254]

​@@EtonDGNot really

[@KING_RYE1997]

In my opinion I think that scuba soldier should not be used for his gimmick more for the fact that he's basically a diet tank commander with the splash to make up for it and a special bonus that could be considered just a little tack on the side because let's be honest who actually uses scuba soldier as a support soldier to help your teams locate enemies I think no one thanks to the tags that the game already has by default

[@GNVS300]

Yeah I don't see many people rating Scuba because of his gimmick, it's just a fairly pointless attribute he has, especially since it comes with a Sonar upgrade

[@TicketC]

Garlic becomes quite decent in PVZ Heroes and many other PVZ Heroes entries were not included including Kernel Corn and Spikeweed, but I guess they aren't very remarkable.

[@linkguy0877]

I love how he remembered that Cherry is in GW1 in a "game mode" which no one plays but didn't remember that scaredy is there as a summonable which he also talks about also Jade is cracked in GW2 -(if you can aim)- what are you talking about

[@GNVS300]

I mentioned his feature as a potted plant at 12:23. Also I REALLY like Jade Cactus in GW2, probably a top 3 favourite Cactus to play, but I'd say every other Cactus is better besides Ice and Camo

[@Zimone648]

Mid Heroes player here: Pea pod is not amazing but is a decent pick in budget and pea decks (also seen it in tempo but they must have smoked weed) Best option is to play it after a podfather or turn 1 if the opponent summons a zombie About Grapes of Wrath: true :)

[@yes3410]

Imo I think peapod actually got an upgrade in pvz2 there was no point of using him as he was expensive and you were better off ramping to better plants like winter melon and coconut cannon and while I don't care about him in pvzh he is good for budget players there

[@kirbykraftgames]

*JOHNNY* mentioned in a GNVS Video lesgo

[@Cinderpelt2036]

Puff shroom is actually good if you have primal peashooter and wintermelon. Puff shroom - good early game defense due no sun to spend and a bait in late game for gargantuar when hes starting to swing his weapon Primal peashooter - knockback zombies(effective if you have 5 primal in every lane) Winter melon - slow movement and swing/eating speed

[@lizzybach4254]

Actually with power lily and imitater power lily, you can infinitely keep an army of puff shrooms alive.

[@ΓιώργοςΠαρασκευόπουλος-ω4τ]

In pvz BFN they had to sacrifice the utility of the whole GW roster to make chomper one of the best characters in the pvz shooter games

[@lavauk2425]

Puff shroom be like: Mr Dave, i don't feel good

[@drcherrybomb]

I'm today years old realizing that Garlic has the same design in both games. lol

[@thunderxp4456]

Grapes of wrath wasn't even good on pvzheroes, it was still kinda bad

[@Soldier_comeback]

How

[@Mr.ChaosPollensAllAround]

​@@Soldier_comeback Too expensive for a 6/6 that will most likely get chumo blocked, or blocked when its abilty get activated .

[@theenderkirby]

Well I thought you meant in design though while I agree with the list you should have point the appreance of bonk and cherry on heroes

[@JoThNoMi]

Idk puff shroom is still really good at stalling In the first 45 seconds of the level.

[@yes3410]

He's not even the best at that stunion and iceberg lettuce are a lot better at stalling then him

[@Gamertag3608]

another example of unfair nerf is sea shroom in pvz 2 which got the same lifespan as puff shroom i call it unfair and not necessary to nerf it cause sea shroom was mediocre in the first game it was free but it was so slow recharge it was better to use 25 extra sun to plant lillypad and puff shroon on top

[@GNVS300]

Sea Shroom sucked in the first game so I didn't consider him, some people say he is actually an improvement in PVZ2

[@Gamertag3608]

@@GNVS300 nah seashroom sucks in pvz 2 but in my opinion cause I liked seashroom as a kid but I replayed pvz 1 I just despise it now so I was hoping popcap can buff it make it useful but it even more disappointing I'm starting to despise EA more and more everyday

[@GNVS300]

@@Gamertag3608 well PopCap are in charge of character balancing so they're to blame, not EA

[@Gamertag3608]

@@GNVS300 well that's a shock cause of how much ea ruins anything they touch

[@lizzybach4254]

Sea shroom is actually buffed. His pf multiplies him. Not to mention his projectiles have 1 tile splash, which is op for a 0 cost plant. You can also use him on land with aqua vine. He also has a normal recharge.

[@DJ_Wolfy5]

GoldNinjaVlogSpot Is the GOAT.

[@GNVS300]

Big man

[@NexTnTMa5ter169]

Bro bfn kernel corn I would say could be even more powerful with the upgrades

[@blocks4857]

Mans doesnt mention the spikerock nerf from pvz 1 to pvz 2

[@KraylebStudios]

Nah Spikerock is insane in 2

[@blocks4857]

@@KraylebStudios 9 pops to 3 pops is a major nerf

[@KraylebStudios]

@@blocks4857 okay but no one uses Spikerock for popping tires in PvZ 2 lol. There's no major dangerous zombie that needs to have tires popped you can just destroy them easily

[@blocks4857]

@@KraylebStudios I meant it can withstand 9 crushes in pvz 1 compared to pvz 2 where it can only stand 3 crushes

[@blocks4857]

That's a major nerf

[@user-vg8sn6dy1r]

BFN corn doesn't feel like an actual downgrade he still a top tier even in this game you should give him a chance G boi because that was kinda harsh downing him

[@BucketIHead]

They basically turned him into plant footsoldier in bfn In gw2 he felt different, atleast to me

[@tickingstickerbomb]

12:47 why does wolfyhave a giant nose

[@GNVS300]

Ask LT Dark Ring

[@maciejpatura]

Now, something opposite Top 10 ( Or 5 ) Plants, that got better in Between Games

[@RegularPeashooter]

I would say Peashooter in first place

[@lizzybach4254]

Snowpea from pvz 1 to pvz 2. It's literally a better staller than winter melon.

[@RegularPeashooter]

@@lizzybach4254 I don't kniw man, it can stall zombie only at the time and it can be block while winter melon can do splash damage. Maybe it can be reconsider by it speed attack.

[@lizzybach4254]

@@RegularPeashooter It's better for the fast-paced levels of arena and Penny's pursuit. You can set up a whole column of snowpeas for just 750 sun, instead of 1000 sun that you need to set up only 2 winter melons to achieve board wide chill. Not to mention, since since snowpea also does 1 tile splash freeze, the zombies barely move beyond the 9th column. You can actually combine it with other plants since it doesn't consume a lot of sun, like Stickybomb rice, dusk lobber, or any op melee.

[@Pvzgirl423]

Can you do Plants that got better For example Cabbage pult and Plantern

[@TorosAndMakis53]

At least BFN corn is OP compared to BFN Soldier. (Primary wise)

[@GNVS300]

Soldier feels MUCH better to me, especially with his upgrade that gives him ammo for kills, which is pretty OP in PVE

[@user-vg8sn6dy1r]

@@GNVS300 bottomless? No it's very meh upgrade try the actual ammo upgrade that cost 2 it's way better and if you want mobility use rocket leap with and if you want more DPS upclose use rapid fire (don't stop shooting or you ll reset your rate of fire you must empty your 58 clip to assure get the most value)

[@GNVS300]

@@user-vg8sn6dy1r I have both Bottomless and the ammo upgrade on; I've not mastered him yet so don't have everything

[@Big_Luca123]

harry kane is that you

[@XrtMsm597]

Ok

[@shahedmatin5427]

I think tallnut is pvz2 is decent its just outclassed by Endurian and it has slow recharge

[@Pvzgirl423]

*Infinut

[@GreenGourdon]

and primal walnut

[@Pvzgirl423]

@@shahedmatin5427 endurian is just bad Worse version of lychee

[@lizzybach4254]

Endurian sucks. I'd say that he's outclassed by primal wallnut.

[@usernom_nom]

Pvz3 choose ur seeds is out

[@GNVS300]

Video coming soon...

[@ProjectMirai64]

Epic

[@KraylebStudios]

Honestly Puff-shroom is even more goated in pvz 2

[@aureliamastergoomba1278]

Puff Shroom, I love the plant, VERY much deserved the nerf!

[@mr.productions327]

Ice Pea got hit hard from PvZ1 to PvZ3 (I never used him in PvZ2 for obvious reasons). I think you should have included him on the list. You should have also included Rose from GW2 to BFN because trying to beat solo ops with her was one of the worst things I have ever done. Also, I think you shouldn't count transitions between lets say... PvZ1 to GW1 for example, because that makes things a bit messy.

[@Pvzgirl423]

But Cabbage pult got Hit hard(In a good way)

[@GNVS300]

I could see Snow Pea from PVZ2 to PVZ3 being a contender, but Snow Pea's buff in PVZ2 makes him hard to decipher, especially when factoring in the shooters. I've used her a bit on PVZ3 and she seems to be a direct upgrade of reg Peashooter. Rose is quite poor on GW2 IMO, but yeah playing her on Mount Steep the other day was painful. The transitions between different game genres were just to make things more interesting; I did say in Dandelion's entry that a plant wouldn't automatically be considered just for being in a less central role. it's also how they compare to others. i.e. Peashooter is arguably better on the shooters since even the stock Pea holds his own and isn't outclassed as much as on the tower defence games

[@lizzybach4254]

​​@@GNVS300Snow pea actually does half as much damage as a regular pea shooter in pvz 3.

[@claptrap239]

Ok