Some builders don’t like inspectors and feel the codes are too restrictive. I’d like to point out that “to code” means the lowest quality and shoddiest workmanship that a builder can legally get away with. If a builder can’t (or won’t) even do that? Think about it.
@PPG196710 ай бұрын
Minimum Code is like being graded on a C scale. The sad part about it is 80% of the builders can't even do that.
@richarddebrunner11492 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, I’ve had the opportunity to train many new inspectors in the last couple of years and now I always direct them to your videos as they are really informative and chalk full of real world examples in a short easy to digest manner. Keep up the great work it very appreciated!!!!
@PPG19672 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your feedback...let me know if I can help in any way.
@PPG19672 жыл бұрын
Any topics you want me to do a video on?
@alpine5551 Жыл бұрын
Nicely done with the video! Great coverage on key elements to make darn sure are done correctly and to code. Keep up the good fight man! Cheers from the PNW!
@PPG1967 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your feedback. What are you located in NW?
@alpine5551 Жыл бұрын
Just south of the Canadian border in western Washington.
@PPG1967 Жыл бұрын
Oh ok, cool
@Deep_Divers Жыл бұрын
Great videos. The quick format showing the violations is very helpful. Thanks.
@PPG1967 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your feedback, and thanks for watching.
@iviaverick5210 ай бұрын
Enjoy a lot of the info you are able to provide. I'm currently working on getting my inspectors license and I really like seeing common things that other inspectors come across.
@PPG196710 ай бұрын
I appreciate you watching.
@CitizenShane2 жыл бұрын
You ever check for notches in floor joists that plumbers make for running DWV?
@PPG19672 жыл бұрын
All the time.. we use a lot of web floor joist, so it's not as big of a problem. However they'll notch the hell out of some studs on a load bearing wall.
@billyoung8118 Жыл бұрын
As someone who is 6'4", I really appreciate the staircase headroom code. Nailed my head many times on those. 6'4" is really the tallest "average" person you will run into regularly. There's plenty far taller than me but you don't run into them often. I feel for those people!
@PPG1967 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your feedback, and thanks for watching
@lazygardens Жыл бұрын
My 6'6" nephew feels the pain.
@PMStacker722 жыл бұрын
Enjoy your content, I’m a special inspector out of Los Angeles California-lot of framing deficiencies found out this way to lol, great video thank 🫵🏼 you 👍🏼
@PPG19672 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your feedback..thanks for watching!!
@flightmedic71692 ай бұрын
You’re so knowledgeable. I’m in Arizona and doing an owner builder home. Currently we are in the review process of the plans and some revisions came up that I don’t have knowledge on and my plan guy is taking forever to get back to the county. We are on the 2012 building code and I’ve been wondering if I can hire someone else to work out this revisions or pay for advice if someone could look at what they’re asking for. Thanks
@PPG19672 ай бұрын
Check with your building department first. Most jurisdictions allow third consultants.
@PPG19672 ай бұрын
Email me if you need me. precisepropertygroup@gmail.com
@raterus2 жыл бұрын
Seeing those nice pretty, finished stairs that now have to be ripped out completely and redone makes me feel bad for the homeowner.
@PPG19672 жыл бұрын
They normally can make a correction without ripping out the staircase.
@PPG19672 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you watching!!
@AJ_900 Жыл бұрын
Just out of curiosity, what’s the big deal if that’s how someone likes their stairs?
@EdLavender3 ай бұрын
@@AJ_900tripping hazard.
@pipi773110 ай бұрын
Very good video. I like the way that you show whats wrong. If you use framing language you might want to point out exactly what you are talking about such as the bolts and straps in the end plate.
@PPG19679 ай бұрын
Great idea…l appreciate you watching!!
@thomasglessner6067 Жыл бұрын
Very good info. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience.
@PPG1967 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your feedback, and thanks for watching.
@StephenNielsenFitnessViceCoach5 ай бұрын
Great job, very informative and easy to follow along. I am now starting my Inspector career. Do you have any videos of the office work or process after you find the violations?
@PPG19675 ай бұрын
Good luck on your journey.
@ryanhogan50729 ай бұрын
Great video! Learning you don’t have 6’8” clearance on final inspection is brutal. lol
@PPG19679 ай бұрын
I appreciate your feedback, and thanks for watching!!
@1keeponkeepon1702 ай бұрын
The Window Egress and the Silling off the chase would have got me.
@PPG1967Ай бұрын
I appreciate you watching!!
@Halfwheelhell8 ай бұрын
Great video! lvl is 1.75" studs are 1.5". Best (required) practice is full bearing, there should be one more stud under the LVL
@PPG19678 ай бұрын
I appreciate your feedback, and thanks for watching!!
@paulbartlett347011 ай бұрын
How did you get familiar with all the codes? Just reading through everything?
@PPG196711 ай бұрын
So, it’s a combination of a few things, Years of experience in the field doing the work (inspecting), reading, studying, and becoming certified in a number of disciplines (mechanical, electrical, plumbing, and framing), and learning from inspectors that are more knowledgeable than I am.
@FreeDumbDaily Жыл бұрын
Have you ever heard of there having to be 1 hour fire rated 5/8 sheathing BETWEEN the OSB sheathing and the siding?
@PPG1967 Жыл бұрын
Sure.
@uncleMike-uu2mh8 ай бұрын
I can't believe people do such pour quality work.
@PPG19678 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, I see it all the time…thanks for watching.
@DavidSmith-kl7bw2 жыл бұрын
Excellent content, I have couple of questions 1) If all exterior walls are total glass like in commercial buildings, is that an energy code violation? 2)If all exterior walls are solid concrete with no internal insulation and no drywalls, is that an energy code violation? Thank you ❤️
@PPG19672 жыл бұрын
No code violation for all glass exterior walls.
@PPG19672 жыл бұрын
So, a concrete foundation wall is normally a R-8 value.
@PPG19672 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your feedback...thanks for watching!!
@DavidSmith-kl7bw2 жыл бұрын
@@PPG1967 I am sorry i don’t mean concrete foundation walls What i mean is Concrete walls above the ground instead of stud framing, drywall and siding
@PPG19672 жыл бұрын
So, check with your local or city building department.
@Rambleon4443 ай бұрын
Don't drawings have to be submitted and approved? If they were, was it usually the contractor's mistake, such as the wrong-size windows, inconsistent stair height, or the clarity between the ceiling and stairs?
@PPG19673 ай бұрын
You're correct. The General Contractor is ultimately responsible.
@upliftingandinspirational Жыл бұрын
Nice, please do more… will be very helpful for BI..
@PPG1967 Жыл бұрын
Will do, I appreciate you watching.
@InvincibleExtremes Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kickass videos on this
@PPG1967 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your feedback, and thanks for watching!!
@pixelatedmushroom2 жыл бұрын
Why is over-driving nails by 1/8 inch in a plywood sheet so bad?
@PPG19672 жыл бұрын
Google "overdriven fasteners"
@PPG19672 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your comment.
@redbaron7710 Жыл бұрын
Loved this video. Thanks for the information!
@PPG1967 Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!...thanks for watching!!
@mjohnson732510 ай бұрын
As a former Builder; very good points… easy mistake has been done by the carpenters and builders, builders must do their own inspection during the construction phase; it will cost more money to fixing things later… As a builder or carpenters must follow the code, I don’t understand why are cutting corners such a sloppy work. Absolutely no cost savings
@PPG196710 ай бұрын
The majority of GC's don't check behind their subcontractors.
@mjohnson732510 ай бұрын
@@PPG1967 they have to…. If a big GC, then they do have their Owen superintendent
@edled10263 ай бұрын
very good video thank you
@PPG19673 ай бұрын
I appreciate you watching.
@yolandagailes56289 ай бұрын
Thank you for your great video.
@PPG19679 ай бұрын
I appreciate your feedback, and thanks for watching.
@Aboard_and_Abroad9 ай бұрын
dude great videos! just subbed. how did the architect, pm, super, subs and inspector not catch that window? they even painted the damn room! that is going to fix easy.
@PPG19679 ай бұрын
I appreciate your feedback, and thanks for watching!!
@DavidTheCastle10 ай бұрын
Hey there. I live in garland tx. And I’m rebuilding my external wall. I read that class zone 1, 2, and 3 do not need vapor barriers. Is this true? Thank you
@PPG196710 ай бұрын
Check with your Building Department in your city, county, or state.
@PPG196710 ай бұрын
I appreciate you watching!!
@chanelpate886 Жыл бұрын
If a county has the building code set for the published year prior, would be better to go ahead and plan to the newest year in case of future planning? For example I plan on building a shipping container in the near future, however the county is currently using the 2018 building code. Should I make two plans, one for 2018 and one for 2021?
@PPG1967 Жыл бұрын
When are they transitioning to 2021?
@chanelpate886 Жыл бұрын
@@PPG1967 I haven't seen anything on the county website indicating that they are going to. I'm figuring this out as I go
@PPG1967 Жыл бұрын
Is there a local or city building inspector that you can contact??
@chanelpate886 Жыл бұрын
@PPG upon watching more videos I figured out that this was probably the best way to go about that. I'm having difficulty finding the information, but wish me luck! 🙏🏾
@Buildsolarhomes Жыл бұрын
Excellent video
@PPG1967 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate you watching!!
@willsee14042 жыл бұрын
#5 the windows that are to small , will they have to tear the windows out and install bigger ones?
@PPG19672 жыл бұрын
Yes sir.
@willsee14042 жыл бұрын
@@PPG1967 wow , that’s being pretty tough on the owner don’t you think , passed it on the rough inn and turn it down on the finish?! That’s kinda messed up don’t you think?
@PPG19672 жыл бұрын
So, if there was a fire and someone dies because they couldn't get out, how do you think that would go over??
@PPG19672 жыл бұрын
Swap out windows or getting sued for millions and your reputation ruined...which would you choose??
@approots Жыл бұрын
It's not a difficult fix to elongate the window downwards if it's an option. Nothing structural. New window and trim of course, but everything else can just be cut out quickly. Hopefully no wiring in the way.
@clayjones55311 ай бұрын
That truss is an obvious and easy fix. If the framer scabbed on a 10ft 2x4 you wouldnt ket that pass?
@PPG196711 ай бұрын
Sir, an engineered plan showing the correct fix is required.
@jmontoya1677 Жыл бұрын
where can i find the anti tip bracket in 2018 irc code?7:37 now what? how did you hold the builder accountable?
@PPG1967 Жыл бұрын
Manufacturer's installation instructions sir...you familiar with that??
@jmontoya1677 Жыл бұрын
@@PPG1967 yes sir I am a building inspector, but the anti tip was new to me. I just inspected an apartment complex and did not know to look for it.
@PPG1967 Жыл бұрын
What state are you in?
@jmontoya1677 Жыл бұрын
@@PPG1967 The great state of Texas😁 I work for a small municipality in the Texas Panhandle. We see minimal new construction so your channel has been a blessing to me. We are in the 2018 ICC code cycle. Keep up the good work brother, guys like me are learning and becoming better educated inspectors from people like you!!!!
@dunnrightmowing38002 жыл бұрын
Do you have any videos that deal specifically on fire place inspection?
@PPG19672 жыл бұрын
I don't at the present time. I'll work on a video for you.
@beta-carotenefunk7373 Жыл бұрын
I unno how our house passed inspection. As a kid, I never really cared but now, every time I go to the basement or attic, I feel like our house is standing on faith alone.
@PPG1967 Жыл бұрын
It's all about safety. That's the primary job of an inspector, ensuring that a home is safe to occupy.
@beta-carotenefunk7373 Жыл бұрын
@@PPG1967 Yeah I get you. Maybe I am a bit paranoid and it's been standing for a good 20 years but, seeing nails miss the beams by a good inch or wood that's damaged used as support beams doesn't inspire confidence.
@Markanthony51786 Жыл бұрын
I just can't understand how someone can't live the way they want to. Where I live we are not required to have home owners insurance. So inspections for that can be voided. I just can't believe that the state can come in and tell someone how to live
@PPG1967 Жыл бұрын
??? I'm sorry, I don't understand. This video is about framing code violations
@dalelehman519411 ай бұрын
Your dead on right.Home owner pays for everything and some young over educated punk tells you how to build your house. The safety thing is hog wash. On a 6 foot crawl basement ,4 feet dirt on outside 30 x30 i HAD TO PUT IN 4 TON OF 15 MIL STEEL and steel beams from a bridge constriction Over kill by 10 times, Why do we always hear politicians talk about (AFORDABLE HOUSING) is just a joke ,Gopher snake seen in 1993 (30 years ago) cost me 5000 dollars to make sure he is not still alive
@WilliamMurphy-uv9pm11 ай бұрын
@@PPG1967 Free wheeling can kill you or the next owner of the home you built. Rules help keep that from happening. Inspections prove you followed the rules. So maybe you won't live without them.
@EdLavender3 ай бұрын
If you own your home, you are not required to have insurance. If it burns down, or is significantly damaged, it's all your loss. If you are taking money from a bank, and they are paying most of the bill, they will require you to have insurance, or they will not give you a mortgage. That way, their investment is protected against damage. Inspections have nothing to do with insurance. They are required by the municipality, to ensure that the residence is safe for occupancy
@jaytravel-129 ай бұрын
I have a question so I have a 30amp for my hot water heater when the old heater was token out it was leaking at the heat elements and water was evey where then it made a pop electrical spark so should i change my breaker for new one .?
@PPG19679 ай бұрын
Consult a competent electrician in your area.
@PPG19679 ай бұрын
I appreciate you watching.
@justintindel9271 Жыл бұрын
This was awesome dude thanks 🤙
@PPG1967 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your feedback, and thanks for watching.
@knowledgenerd2hinkle275 Жыл бұрын
Love the t-shirt where can i get it.
@PPG1967 Жыл бұрын
Local clothing designer. I'll post a link
@everythinghomerepair17472 жыл бұрын
Nice collection of common violations to look for. When you call out things like the egress windows do the builders have to tear into the walls to put in bigger windows or is there an easier fix?
@PPG19672 жыл бұрын
Yes sir...builder get pretty upset about this one.
@raterus2 жыл бұрын
@@PPG1967 Well it's their own dumb fault...
@robertfrancis4876 Жыл бұрын
You can switch the window to a casement . That sometimes works. They have casement that look like double hung windows
@Combat556 Жыл бұрын
While you’re checking egress windows, also check distance of lower edge to floor.
@tonkatruck929 Жыл бұрын
Yes. The inspector doesn't have to tell the builder how to fix it, just what the code requires.
@robertfrancis4876 Жыл бұрын
Great videos .glad I found your u-channel. It is 5.7 Sq. ft. 2nd floor egress
@PPG1967 Жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard!...I appreciate your feedback
@jon102312 жыл бұрын
Can you reference what you said about the 4 ply lvl beams? You said they needed to be staggered bolted, what did you find that information?
@PPG19672 жыл бұрын
Manufacturer's Installation Instructions...thanks for watching!!
@DrumAdrian167 ай бұрын
Great video
@PPG19677 ай бұрын
I appreciate your feedback, and thanks for watching.
@jamesanderson4014 Жыл бұрын
I have always thought any window should be at least 22 inches wide and maybe 52 inches in height in a stud wall for egress.
@PPG1967 Жыл бұрын
Where did you get those dimensions from?
@jamesanderson4014 Жыл бұрын
A lot of us need windows for responders to get in and get most folks out. Most windows here double hung are 22-28 inches wide more for custom orders@@PPG1967. Can't speak for other folks. In an energency a door is not always available. Most codes are minmum but some common sense always makes a better build and a better product.
@annekabrimhall10599 ай бұрын
Like your shirt!
@PPG19679 ай бұрын
I appreciate your feedback.
@johnmichael6429 ай бұрын
AWESOME video
@PPG19679 ай бұрын
I appreciate your feedback, and thanks for watching!!
@DR-lh9rm26 күн бұрын
First time viewer. :) Algorithm comment. 😁
@PPG196724 күн бұрын
I appreciate you watching!!
@gauchoengenharia Жыл бұрын
can i use 14mm x 38mm grams replacing plywood nailing nails?
@PPG1967 Жыл бұрын
What code book are using??
@gauchoengenharia Жыл бұрын
@@PPG1967 I'm building in Brazil, we don't have our own legislation here, I would like to follow some guidance from you..
@PPG1967 Жыл бұрын
I'll help you any way I can.
@gauchoengenharia Жыл бұрын
@@PPG1967 At this moment my biggest question is why I don't see clamps being used in the US to fix plywood, I've already built several houses here in Brazil always using 38mm clamps to fix OSB or plywood.
@PPG1967 Жыл бұрын
@@gauchoengenharia email me pictures of what you're talking about. Precisepropertygroup@gmail.com
@imperialkingzent Жыл бұрын
What happens if it's not caught on the rough like the windows for egress?
@PPG1967 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, it will have to be corrected before the C.O. is issued.
@JEDI5464 Жыл бұрын
Nice shirt at da gate 🤙🏽
@PPG1967 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your feedback, and thanks for watching.
@spackelquack92522 жыл бұрын
excellent VDO
@PPG19672 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you watching!!
@brandymoore5967 Жыл бұрын
Do you inspect tiny homes?
@PPG1967 Жыл бұрын
I do..
@FourthWayRanch8 ай бұрын
How do these plans make it past approval to build?
@PPG19677 ай бұрын
Plans Examiners miss stuff too.
@PPG19677 ай бұрын
I appreciate you watching!!
@FourthWayRanch7 ай бұрын
@@PPG1967 I'm trying to figure out the grade for my slab. Where is that in the code? I'm hearing make the top of the slab 18" higher than any ground within 10 feet of the foundation?
@PPG19677 ай бұрын
Where are you located?
@PPG19677 ай бұрын
What code book has your state adopted?
@tonkatruck929 Жыл бұрын
Nice video.
@PPG1967 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your feedback, and thanks for watching.
@DavanteDavidson8 ай бұрын
Does anyone know what code book the state of michigan be found?
@PPG19678 ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure it’s the IRC & IBC. Check with a city building department to verify.
@PPG19678 ай бұрын
I appreciate you watching.
@DavanteDavidson8 ай бұрын
@@PPG1967 where can i check?
@PPG19678 ай бұрын
Contact your local or state building department.
@AntOfBobby11 ай бұрын
1:47 Who the hell did that?!?!
@PPG196710 ай бұрын
A framer
@alanf403Ай бұрын
It may take longer and be a hell of a lot of work, but I'm planning a 1400 sq/ft single story home/garage and I'm doing it myself. I've watched so many videos about shoddy construction that I just don't trust anyone. Sad state of affairs in this country.
@PPG1967Ай бұрын
Facts
@PPG1967Ай бұрын
Let me know if I can help.
@jimzimmerman528811 ай бұрын
That stair you show needs a landing inside the door.
@PPG196711 ай бұрын
Ok...I appreciate your commenting.
@richdobbs65957 күн бұрын
As some one who is 6' 1 1/2" tall, it has pained me at various times in my life when people didn't meet the 6'8" head room. You try to step down and whack your forehead.
@clivevreeswijk455510 ай бұрын
Many of these can be traced back to the design phase
@PPG19679 ай бұрын
I agree with you….thanks for watching.
@christophermacquarrie82247 ай бұрын
That's assuming anyone actually read or even skimmed over the blueprints😂
@thatguy8005 Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen face Bats exposed inside a chimney… toward the chimney…. Yikes
@PPG1967 Жыл бұрын
Wow!!
@captainjackson613511 ай бұрын
any nails that missed the framing need to be removed. The egress windows should have been caught at Plan Review, permit should never have been issued on it. Drywall can be used to seal the chase
@PPG196711 ай бұрын
At plan review??...it should've been caught on the rough inspection.
@captainjackson613511 ай бұрын
@@PPG1967 Should have failed plan review, they don't measure for egress window openings at framing. The contractor and superintendent screwed up, but if they used the windows called out in the plans, the Plan Reviewer screwed up, but ultimately it falls on the contractor.
@ferdburful635210 ай бұрын
Anti tip on a stove ? Ridiculous. Amazing how generations survived without some of these stupid regulations
@PPG196710 ай бұрын
I know, right?
@toddwheeler1526 Жыл бұрын
If you want to see some real garbage built homes, come to California. Although we have some very stringent codes, the general workmanship, of almost all of the trades especially on tract homes is atrocious. There are very few tradesmen left who know the overall care and fitment of the material elements that go into producing a good product. Then we have to seismic hardware! Junk high moisture content Lumber, prefabricated everything, fools with nailguns, drills, chainsaws etc and junk levels and don't know what a string and a plumb bob is! Proper inspection is consistently hampered by time constraints and politics. BUYER BEWARE! Thank you sir for your public service. Retired GC, commercial, industrial, residential and Sr. Construction Inspector, Civil Engineering, Public Works. Glad I'm done!
@PPG1967 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your feedback, and thanks for watching.
@MikeTyson29 ай бұрын
Thank you if I knew you I would buy you a coffee
@PPG19679 ай бұрын
I appreciate your support.
@Mrs.Motivation2137 ай бұрын
That house boy 😮 I hope they didn't pay someone else to build that
@PPG19677 ай бұрын
I know, right??...I appreciate you watching.
@murphmurph2124 Жыл бұрын
Man codes are absolutely ridiculous I hate them all
@PPG1967 Жыл бұрын
Sun Codes??... I'm not familiar.
@murphmurph212410 ай бұрын
Oops that was a typo sorry@@PPG1967
@anthonys6066 Жыл бұрын
if my inspector ever needed a tape measure it was an automatic fail.
@PPG1967 Жыл бұрын
Really??...interesting
@johns6119 Жыл бұрын
Very good video if you have the patience to watch the boring intro
@PPG1967 Жыл бұрын
Ok
@alangarcia3971Ай бұрын
that shirt goes hard as f
@PPG196724 күн бұрын
I appreciate you watching.
@grannygear10017 ай бұрын
A shirt on backwards. 🤭
@PPG19677 ай бұрын
I know, right...
@DZOElPortavoz Жыл бұрын
These guys cost people so much money over an inch i honestly think there should be some commen sense befefore costing someone 25k over an inch or two
@PPG1967 Жыл бұрын
These guys?....Who are you referring to?...Building Inspectors?
@DZOElPortavoz Жыл бұрын
@@PPG1967 code enforcement in my opinion is a violation of people’s private property’s. I understand the need for enforcing sanitary conditions.But code enforcement will leave a family homeless for violations they deem un safe. I’m not saying you are that type at all I’m speaking in general terms code enforcement has a horrible reputation and most people hate that department.
@PPG1967 Жыл бұрын
I understand what you're saying. I worked code enforcement for 3 years before getting into building inspections. Some people don't understand enforcing city ordinances, especially on private property. There must be some standards in place and enforced, especially if you have neighbors.
@PPG1967 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your commenting.
@randyscrafts857511 ай бұрын
There are far too many unnecessary codes and regulations. These cost the builder & buyer more and more money. Its nothing but a racket to make suppliers money. These overblown codes and regulations increase the cost of residential construction well over the $10,000 mark. At best, they should be options and not requirements. I was going to build but decided not due to these rediculous codes and supply chain issues and supply curtailment and price gouging and crap contractor employee workmanship. Its no longer worth it. I had a builders license since 1995. 2 years ago I let it lapse. No longer useful.
@spardasquadspqr353511 ай бұрын
If builders wouldnt try to cut corners all the time u wouldnt have any codes. Did u really thing that village came out with codes and permits just for lolz?? Or maybe it was years and years of people bitching to village major to do something about it? Im working construction and u have no idea about building anything if codes are issue for u. Mostly they are based on common sense and other times u have some that demand union tondo the job.
@michaeltichonuk217611 ай бұрын
@spardasquadspqr3535 yep. Codes will make building last and be much more safer. A knowledgeable Building Inspector is a valuable asset both to builder and owner.
@iseeweiners377211 ай бұрын
Build it right the first time
@driley438110 ай бұрын
Which codes and regulations are you suggesting should be eliminated??
@ferdburful635210 ай бұрын
@@driley4381My area requires a four inch exhaust pipe on my gas water heater. The water heater has a 3 inch exhaust. Duh.
@picmanjoe11 ай бұрын
Wow. Some of the worst framing wood I've ever seen.