Top 10 Things we DON'T LIKE About the Roller Team T-Line 590 Motorhome

[@LiveforTravel]

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[@davewallace5008]

"Stroking the foliage" ;) love it!

[@mikeyfelley]

The size of the vehicle isn’t the problem, Iv drove double decker buses down narrower roads. The problem is speed & generally people are not aware because mostly they only drive cars. I sit on sites and watch some people trying to reverse and it’s shocking. The mirrors are large for a reason as we need to see the end of the vehicle whilst cornering. Most motorhome owners that have done this a while like yourself drive with respect but some newbies are brutal. Whether it’s 3.5Te or not i think they should be doing some sort of test. Anyway Great videos as usual keep up the good work

[@LiveforTravel]

Agree and it's the reason I wouldn't rent our van out. The mirrors are large for a reason but when driving one people need an appreciation that some lanes have trees at the edge of the road. It's not just the mirror in the middle of the road. Thanks for watching and your comment.

[@mikeyfelley]

@@LiveforTravel It’s a shame really. iv watched a lot of videos about the south of England & Scotland with people saying motorhome safe not welcome but in reality people are just fed up with bad driving

[@franktaylor3934]

Hi. To show how opinions vary. We have a 7.2m but have just ordered a 7.4, love the space. The kitchen has little function as we live on salad with cold meat, type of element is no consequence. Our current Moho came with 5 USB points and we added 2 more, your right, there can't be too many of these. Oh the TV bracket, solved by reading and a pack of cards, the joy of being away is leaving all the TV nonsense behind. Lastly the cassette, carry 2, then swap them over and empty the full one prior to departure, it also extends your wild camping ability by days.

[@LiveforTravel]

Oh yes they do. Real good points in your comment. We do kind of agree about the tv although poor reception at some sites means we revert to alternative entertainment anyway. With one USB in the hab area it feels a little “tight fisted” of Roller Team. Space definitely has some advantages and we would certainly never suggest the contrary but for us we enjoy the sub 6 metre home even if some additional compromises have to be made. Thanks for watching and your comments.

[@alexanderfleming4106]

My new gripe about my T-line 590 is the reverse camera. In reverse it points down too much showing the bike rack rather than more of the area I'm reversing into.

[@LiveforTravel]

A number of people are unhappy with it. You can see the other camera feed by choosing it as a 'source' like you do for radio, USB etc but this means you cannot listen to music whilst it is displayed. I think I have seen some people have swapped the connections round so that the other camera works when using reverse but I haven't done that myself.

[@nicolasbouyiouclis4726]

It would have been helpful for the ones who don't know the type of mobile home you're referring to... if you had showed us a quick video of the exterior and the interior of it.. this way we could a face to each complaint.. a specially the bed and dining configuration at a minimum.. you did a great of explaining everything and also shown us the tv bracket, the overhead shelving and the waste release piping.. I guess I will watch some more of your videos to see some pictures of the whole thing.. Thanks for posting..

[@LiveforTravel]

Thanks for your feedback.

[@susannordstrom5065]

That is why I went back to a van, because of the heat, at least with a van you can open the back door and sliding door and get the air flowing

[@LiveforTravel]

Heat is an issue for sure. Although in the UK not that often.

[@montbrehain]

Surely the mirrors are your guide... I would sooner hit a £500 mirror than rip the side out of the van. I agree about the size.. comes as a bit of a shock to some. NO 1 tip .. ALWAYS try before you buy... its a bit too late when you spend 50k and then find its too big for you. Fit a Maxxfan for much better airflow too...

[@LiveforTravel]

We do not fold the mirror on the near side. The off side mirror we fold on narrow roads for a short time. As the roads we fold it on are narrow, no one is likely to be passing and I have found I don’t need it. Would agree about the “try before buy” although of course we absolutely love our van as discussed in the “Top 10 things we like” video. No van is perfect and the compromises on ours is minimal. We will look into the Maxxfan you suggested.

[@ril-eq3vp]

Yes your mirrors pass the gap & the rest will go through. You fold one in & it passes the gap & the rest behind you gets torn off. I once drove 7.5T lorries. And my mirrors hit another lorries mirrors. His mirrors smashed, mine folded back....... But l reacted & swerved before the backend hit his vehicle. Nope, l won't be folding in my mirrors. Covered many thousands of miles driving lorries from England to Scotland, Scotland to England then over again & again. My mirrors will stay out.

[@LiveforTravel]

@@ril-eq3vp on our particular van, with the mirrors folded in, the overall width is about the same as the habitation part. I to used to drive 7.5 tonne long wheel base Cargo’s, have driven most size of vehicles from the Cargo to a Smart car, driven for over 25 years, over 1 million miles and passed the Advanced Driving Test but I am happy to fold the one mirror in on those occasions. Happy to have a different opinion and thanks again for your comments.

[@colinmurphy2127]

Refreshing to see a negative list for a change. Regarding the TV bracket, would a tennis ball with a slit cut into it work? Small but also highly visible. We used this trick on our VW camper sliding door, so that it wouldn't rip the awning.

[@LiveforTravel]

We thought it right to highlight some of the not so positive things with the van. The tennis ball idea is great. A cheap and visible item which, if we still walk into it, won’t hurt so much. Thanks for watching and your suggestion.

[@barriedeburgh4375]

HI Paul, we are buying a zeffiro 665 next ay. , we will be driving it to Greece. Thanks, we are finding out the cost of habitation air con. We are living in NZ at present. So looking forward to being back in europe again. We miss Dorset/ swanage our old stamping ground.

[@LiveforTravel]

Thanks. Our time is Dorset was gorgeous. A lovely part of the country. We wish you all the best with your new van.

[@RickandHeather]

Your Motorhome layout is exactly the same as our last one was (chausson flash 10) I would agree about 8 of your dislikes were the same for us, we only had it a year before deciding to go back to a van conversion

[@LiveforTravel]

Yes and we do love our van even with these dislikes. Thanks for watching 👍

[@gregorypepper8674]

After your Chausson 10, what type of van conversion did you opt for? We’re in the same boat ……

[@kirksunify]

very good ideas about this kind of Motorhome ,recently we just considering of buying this model, and we haven’t got so many good suggestions about it,now We know! Many thanks,

[@LiveforTravel]

Thanks for watching.

[@Wheres_wanda_wandering]

A very informative video. We chose a sub 6m van (majestic 135) because we wanted to go on day trips and park her easily. We have never had a problem. I liked the look of your van but I could not do without the choice of electric/gas hobs. We have 4 travel seats but only 3 beds so use an awning when our adult children join us. I look forward to watching more videos when we can get out and about. Gill

[@LiveforTravel]

There are always some compromises with Campers and Motorhomes but we do of course still love our van. We are certainly looking forward to getting out and about travelling again. Many thanks for your feedback and we wish you a great year in your van 👍

[@jeffshaw4553]

Brilliant another informative vlog I have just orderd one of those flexible hoses as we done our first outing in our motor home the weekend and we noticed the grey waste drain was raised higher than we could get to so had to get a bowl empty it into that then empty it in waste drain bit of mission but we got by looking on ordering a waste master now for these times we may need one wasn’t full success on our first outing came down tight lane went to pull my mirror in as white van man wasn’t slowing down or even tempting to bang mirror ruined was devestated had to buy whole new mirror casing and have now invested in the mirror caps too to protect them still gutted now but it’s happened so gotta Move on from it 👍🏽👍🏽

[@LiveforTravel]

We do only usually find things out when we actually use the van. Sorry to read about the mirror. Thankfully won’t be something that hopefully happens again. Moving forward is definitely a good view of life.

[@jeffshaw4553]

@@LiveforTravel glad it’s not just me that realises these things after we away 😂😂yeah fitted the new mirror today all is good just waiting on the mirror caps the same as what you got to arrive also the flexi hose you got came today just waiting on spare bulb kit now as it won’t hurt to have one hey then coming to the end of my big list of things to buy now thank goodness 😂😀extra gas bottle is needed so always got 2 on board at all times off to our camping shop the weekend in canvey island to have good mooch around see what I can persuade the wife to get us 😂😂😘

[@ril-eq3vp]

I bought a 1998 boxer last month. Not a single usb socket in sight. But no worries as l intend to rewire the 12v system & include several usb sockets + 12v sockets capable of 60 amps. I am a radio ham so any existing sockets wouldn't cope with my power drain. Even in a brand new van. Same regarding any additional cupboards. I will simply install what l need. If you buy a brand new van l have no doubt that you can simply pay to have it adapted to your needs. I also intend to fit 600w solar + a bank of AGM batteries. Much more capacity than a new van would come with. So the problems are easy to address. Fit out your van to suit your needs. If you lack the skills or the time, then you pay people to do it for you. Regardless of how the designers fit out a van, it's not going to suit everyone. So take your needs into consideration when choosing it, or.......

[@LiveforTravel]

Yes it is great when you are able to modify your van yourself. I would be the person who ends up paying for someone else to fit whatever it is we want. We are still very happy with the van but decided to balance the “Top 10 things we like” video with 10 that we don’t. Thanks for your comments.

[@alannicoll719]

Yes I do the same as yourself taking the mirror in on tight roads, as long as you have a working rear view camera. I once smashed my drivers wing mirror (not my fault your honour ) cost £190 for new unit. So I will take my chances with the authorities if it arises.

[@LiveforTravel]

Precisely my point too. Many thanks for watching and your comments 👍

[@lesleybarlow7592]

I must admit I was a bit anxious about watching this vlog, but it wasn't so bad. Some of the issues you raise are more relevant to family motorhoming but there's just the two of us. Other issues can be worked around. We intend to upgrade the USB port at some point and we bought a single induction hob from asda for twenty quid to use when were on hook up if needed. Have yet to see if we get too hot in the van, will let you know when we're let out to play again. Great vlog though Paul, you always make me chuckle. Look forward to the next one 🙂

[@LiveforTravel]

Thanks. We still love our van of course but there are little things that we didn’t know. Looking forward, like you, to get out and about again. Thanks for watching and your feedback. 🙏

[@chrissey663]

We all have little gripes with our van ha ha, i don't think there is a perfect van, but got to be honest i use my electric hot plate 99% of the time, loved the video when you fixed your grey waist very clever!!! and the 10 things you love about your MH. Thanks for another informative video Paul, lets hope we can all get away and enjoy them in 2021. Take care ;)

[@LiveforTravel]

We agree. Nothing is perfect but we do still love our van.Thanks for watching and all the best on your travels.

[@susannordstrom5065]

Hi , just wondering if the L shaped couch is long enough to lay on

[@LiveforTravel]

The L shaped seat is fine for sitting and stretching legs across but not long enough to lay on straight.

[@susannordstrom5065]

@@LiveforTravel thanks

[@DavidCross-e1m]

Recently subscribed and this is a great channel. I have a question for you if I may. We owned a caravan a few years ago and recently purchased a self-built campervan. We wanted to upgrade and we’ve seen a rather cheeky Roller Team T590 at our local dealership in North Yorkshire. Ticks all the boxes for our needs and we’re very tempted to buy. However there is one question that we don’t seem to have seen answered in your vids. It’s fresh water. We’ve seen the big red screw thing on top of the water tank. We know that we can fill up at home or indeed the camp site. But, if you needed to replenish the water without driving round the campsite again, can this be done while still hooked-up. In the ‘olden days’ we were able to take our aqua roll and top up. Is there a similar method we could use for the T590. Many thanks. Dave

[@LiveforTravel]

Thanks for the feedback. We have never used an Aqua Roll as we just fill using a food grade hose either before leaving or on site. As you will know there are adapters for fitting on the external filler but we never found one that fitted the 590. We typically leave the hose placed far enough into the external filler so that, on low pressure, it stays in situ until the tank is full a few minutes later. All the best with whichever van you choose.

[@simonfurse5970]

Alternative to a cassette style WC. Look up “Cinderella” Combusting toilet. What seems very expensive if you do the maths is really not so expensive over time. No water No chemicals Runs on gas & electric. Reduces waste to inert ash that is safe to put in domestic rubbish. No dragging a cassette across a campsite in the middle of a thunderstorm at night!, I have mobility issues so a no brained but they have been using this sort of thing in forest / island holiday cabins etc for years. You have a rear bathroom which should give space to fit one if you were so inclined I would put this ahead of air on as an extra expense.

[@LiveforTravel]

It’s always interesting to hear of alternative. Thanks for watching and your comment.

[@GWAYGWAY1]

I hit a pole at Toll booth with the left mirror and snapped it off, they wanted £1200 for a replacement, I was only a bit of threaded tube, but NO spares are available at all it is total mirror only, I did make a bit but it took an afternoon to do. Spares, they totally have you by the balls, with supply and the cost of whatever they charge.

[@LiveforTravel]

Was that a Pegaso mirror? Very expensive.

[@GWAYGWAY1]

@@LiveforTravel Yes made only for Hymer and only sold to them, like the headlight glass at £1000+ I started making replacement glasses from PTG plastic and it works , the policy for spares are immoral .

[@LiveforTravel]

@@GWAYGWAY1 it is unfortunately due to lack of competition as you say. It is really a disgusting amount.

[@rogerspeck9929]

Great Vlog again, lots of good information. 👍

[@LiveforTravel]

Thanks for your support 👍

[@alanryderb]

I've seen some lorries that have cameras instead of mirrors, will this happen to motorhomes.

[@LiveforTravel]

Yes and think it will on all vehicles but don’t fancy the cost if they are damaged, although they should be harder to hit.

[@alexn5648]

Drove a bus with video mirrors. They react oddly at night and they do break. I prefer standard mirrors. You can make toilet last longer by peeing into a bottle and then emptying that into a public toilet. Not great but lengthens time to empty..

[@brianthetrain9283]

All Valid gripes. Hope you are getting closer to getting out again in it. Bostin.

[@LiveforTravel]

Thanks matey, hoping to get out travelling very soon.

[@ianbriden7907]

Roller Team should use you as part of their design team.When someone pays north of 50k on a Motorhome it needs to be right.Lack of thought with regard to USB's a bathroom cabinet I would say.

[@LiveforTravel]

Well I do love Italy. I think, as with all manufacturers, it comes down to cost. A bit like the shower area. They could have lined it nicer but didn’t. Still love the van though and I guess everyone finds niggles with something it just comes back to what compromises. Many thanks for your continued support.

[@h15films]

Wry informative, thank you 🙏

[@LiveforTravel]

Thank you for feedback 🙏

[@MrWardnine]

Why don't all motor homes have a fitted awning?

[@LiveforTravel]

Cost and customer choice. We still don’t have one and currently don’t want one.

[@MrWardnine]

Why would you not want one

[@LiveforTravel]

They have pros and cons. We are happy to park up, plug in and relax.

[@MrWardnine]

@@LiveforTravel That's not right what Con,s you pull up relax but when you want more space you turn a metal handle and out it comes, you wouldn't open it in a gale-force wind! you're not being very helpful, are you?

[@LiveforTravel]

@@MrWardnine your question might require more than a comment as a answer. First, when we discuss an awning do you mean simply a wind out awning as per your suggestion in your comment or a fully enclosed design? For us, if we want extra space that would require a fully enclosed awning. That is our opinion and not one that everyone else needs to agree with. A fully enclosed awning requires a lot of set up. I know this as I have watched and discussed with people as they set them up. We have not yet found the need for the “extra space” you highlight and as such, again, this is down to personal choice. You are naturally not obliged to agree with this and that is fine. Second, if you do simply mean a “wind out” awning then of course they are much easier to use and your comment regards not using on windy days is one of those occasions that it would not be wound out. We (our opinion) do not count a wind out awning as extra space. Cover from the sun yes; but extra space? Not in our opinion. Finally, which brings the discussion right back to the start, is one of cost. A quality awning; just the “wind out one” is expensive. I cannot speak for Motorhome manufacturers but generally speaking, for everything, there is a cost and it is in their interest to offer accessories at an additional cost. It’s a good business model. We hope you found this answer more helpful. We enjoy a fast growing following of viewers that give us feedback and suggestions both in the comments and by email and it is that feedback that drives us. Your comment (name redacted) will be the driver for a future video on the subject so thank you for the original question.

[@pug4866]

hi am looking into a motorhome i know about insurance the type of motorhome you have and were you live will come into it but the road tax if under 1746cc £180 but anything over that its £300

[@LiveforTravel]

Road tax is based on years too. Our van is subject to the ‘over £40k when new’ tax that was introduced in September 2019 and revoked in the budget March 2020. As there was no backdate to the change, vehicles registered between those dates incur a high tax for the first 5 years and revert to their ‘correct’ level on year 6.

[@peter.russell]

Very good video, it really shows how, whatever you choose, there will need to be some compromises. I quite enjoy finding solutions to these issues.The waste pipe design is poor but you have found a good fix, the same can be done for other things on your list e.g. air con is expensive & heavy, why not just take an electric fan to get air flow when it's really needed? Finally the electric hob option, if you are concerned about running out of gas or having a cooker failure(?) buy a two ring camping gas stove, light and inexpensive (£20 Inc 4 refills on amazon). My wife has used 1 for "overflow" cooking at Christmas for years and putting one in the motorhome is a no-brainer :-) Enjoy 😎

[@LiveforTravel]

I think there are always compromises yes. Good suggestions, particularly the camping stove. Thanks for watching and your comments 😊

[@paulbowers7343]

There was a country song which had a line, "give me 40 acres and I can turn this rig around!" No second room? Leave the kids with gran!

[@LiveforTravel]

Would be a great idea but we have no Gran’s left 😔

[@thetessellater9163]

It sounds like you need a much smaller van - outside - and much bigger van inside.??

[@LiveforTravel]

We feel the video highlights that there are always comprises when choosing a van. We love our RT 590 and plan to keep it for around 10 years or more. Thanks for watching.

[@muzakman1959]

Liking the video but please its not a bathroom and get those eyebrows cut!

[@LiveforTravel]

Maybe it’s a Birmingham thing. It is of course called a washroom, as there is no bath. I will ask Fran to cut her eyebrows 😂 thanks for watching.

[@kennethmccallum9719]

Go and build better yourself then. Oh oh oh I cannot. !!!!!!!

[@LiveforTravel]

Oh Kenneth…