Trivia: the first "Threaten" effect was actually a Blue card called "Ray of Command" which came out it Ice Age. While it had ONE unusual function on it that never existed in any other threaten effects (it taps the creature when it is returned... kinda useless considering it goes back BEFORE your opponent's turn... so they untap it anyway. Its only real effect is that the creature gets tapped if your opponent somehow regains control of the creature before effect of the Ray wears off), it is still functionally a threaten effect.
@mikeoleary5444 Жыл бұрын
The best thing about Ray of Command is that it's an instant. Way back when Standard was known as Type II (and the game was slower than it is now) RoC was great for a two-for-one when the opponent attacked by stealing one attacker to block another.
@kennydarmawan13 Жыл бұрын
You know something's up when the best card is up there because it's so cheap and the restrictions don't matter much.
@williamdrum9899 Жыл бұрын
Mostly because eternal formats gravitate towards cheap threats. Also it's an amazing counter against dark depths turbo
@dorping_Wolf Жыл бұрын
zealous conscript saying "permanent" and not creature makes it even more interesting.
@rafaelcastro.0111 ай бұрын
Exactly, you can ult a planeswalker or even steal a land, enchantment etc. Very good.
@wyldefyr4116 Жыл бұрын
I used to like using Fling with my threaten effects....take a creature, attack with it, then fling it to kill it and something else....i once eleminated 2 players from a commander game by stealing a huge hamletback giant, attacking a wide open opponent, then flinging it at another player
@alilhard Жыл бұрын
For Kari Zev's expertise there is also the niche of playing it in a Zada edh deck where it's by far one of the best cards there is if you have something that lets you draw in hand (like Renegade tactics). It's pretty hilarious how you can go from 2 cards in hand with 4 mana to 8 cards in hand and cast spells for a total value of 20
@Alecations Жыл бұрын
“Something that lets you draw cards” say any card in a zada deck
@Living_End Жыл бұрын
Song mad treachery actually is apart of the alternate combo in belcher. After you have made infinite mana and infinite regrowths you can make infinite tokens and then you give them haste with song max and you take all their blockers just for safe keepings.
@demiurge2501 Жыл бұрын
What’s the infinite mana loop?
@sandwichboy1268 Жыл бұрын
Mob Rule is VERY good in commander, where there's always somebody trying to go wide
@dark_rit Жыл бұрын
Surprised insurrection didn't make the list since at least when I played it was used in commander as a big spell that could win the game. The planeswalker threaten seems so bad and out of place here at least to me because 5 mana walkers are usually bad and too slow.
@williamdrum9899 Жыл бұрын
In most cases Mob Rule does the same thing but for 2 less mana.
@jacksun23 Жыл бұрын
always satisfying to beat opponents with their own creatures
@kingoberon Жыл бұрын
I feel the need to debate Angrath. The list is titled Top 10 Threaten Effects, not top 10 cards with Threaten effects. As such if his threaten ability was rarely used then he isn't really a great threaten card but rather a good card that had a threaten ability which is not the same.
@thek838 Жыл бұрын
Insurrection not even on the list though it's a insta win in pretty much any commander game, that people even rule 0 it out.
@7Alberto7 Жыл бұрын
Amazing!!!!
@angst_ Жыл бұрын
Are Bribery effects Threaten effects? If so: Shout-out to inevitable betrayal. Just something fun for casual play!
@gabrote42 Жыл бұрын
They are not, but I LOVE inevitable betrayal vs Emrakul decks
@angst_ Жыл бұрын
@@gabrote42 Me, an Emrakul Deck Player: Yikes! *pulls at collar* Don't remind me!
@gabrote42 Жыл бұрын
@@angst_ You brought this upon yourself! MWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHahahaha!!
@Mlkm97 Жыл бұрын
Top 10 cards that might get restricted in vintage or banned in legacy?
@jayredharpstudios9672 Жыл бұрын
Can you do the top 10 Dredge commanders next?
@kojiroh30 Жыл бұрын
Shouldn't Insurrection be on this list as it is capable of ending the game and is heavily played in Commander?
@Calispeedboi Жыл бұрын
You missed the Akron war which sees play in pioneer gruul
@brandonguffey5959 Жыл бұрын
The first game of legacy i ever won in the first tournament i ever played in i won by using Ray of Command on an opponents platinum angel. back in i wanna say 2007
@MB-uu3mu4 ай бұрын
You totally forgot BLUE. Mind Flayer and Tempted by the Oriq are crucial Threatens in Blue historic. IMHO, Flayer should be in the middle of that top 10.
@VulcanGray Жыл бұрын
I've won games by threatening my own summon-sick creature to swing for lethal
@melvinshine9841 Жыл бұрын
Aside from Counter Spells, I guess, what kind of protection do creatures have from being "stolen"? Are there creatures with targeting protection like in Yugioh?
@gabrote42 Жыл бұрын
Go to scryfall and search for card with Hexproof. Or search for cards with Shroud
@pumkinswift8263 Жыл бұрын
Yes, there are plenty of creatures with protection from being targeted. That's the main relevant form of protection for threatens
@williamdrum9899 Жыл бұрын
Hexproof, shroud, ward, protection from red
@bluedestiny2710 Жыл бұрын
To add to what others said, Flicker Effects also work. Flicker is an unofficial term players use for "remove target from the game, then return it into play" effects ... which essentially makes the flickered card a "new" copy of the "original" version... and fizzle the spell that was targeting it because it no longer sees the 1st target and wont redirect its target the "new" creature without outside help (i.e a spell like Deflection)
@gabrote42 Жыл бұрын
@@bluedestiny2710 Very true. Also Blinking (the same but returns into play at the end of turn) and phasing permanents out (they stop existing until your next untap step)
@Crescendobro Жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity cuz I’ve never played Magic with physical cards how do modal cards work? Like do you just know you’re going to draw it and your opponent just sees it in your hand since it doesn’t have a generic back on the card?
@JelloPiranha Жыл бұрын
When they first introduced modal cards, they also printed marker cards, I believe they were called. They were basically blank proxy cards that had normal card backs. So you'd just write which card it was standing in for, and then when you played the card, you'd grab the real version that you kept off to the side. Nowadays it's basically a rule that all your cards have to be sleeved so you can't tell which card is which based on frays or bends or other significant visual differences. So you just remove the double-faced card from its sleeve and flip it over if you wanna play the back side. I wanna say card sleeves were much less common when they first printed modal cards.
@Crescendobro Жыл бұрын
@@JelloPiranha ah cool, I figured it was something like having a copy of the card with a proper back then side boarding the flippable one but I wasn’t sure
@ReederMG Жыл бұрын
Top 10 Elves
@Whatevermancer Жыл бұрын
Grab the Reins is literally the best of them all and it's not in your video. Conscripts is #2.
@dark_rit Жыл бұрын
Why would it be? It's a mana above the normal threaten rate and to have upside as a burn + removal spell it costs 7. For a single mana more you can get insurrection, which can just win the game on the spot.
@fernandobanda5734 Жыл бұрын
"Monsters"
@ExtraVictory11 ай бұрын
The best threaten effect is me to the families of people that say MTG is better than Yu-Gi-Oh
@qwerty62201 Жыл бұрын
"monsters" please keep that cringe term to Yu-Gi-Oh thanks
@machina5 Жыл бұрын
I'm convinced these are written by Ai They're so redundant and formulaic
@dark_rit Жыл бұрын
There really isn't much of a difference between the two terms and gets the point across.
@williamdrum9899 Жыл бұрын
He did yugioh lists for years before he made his mtg channel