Top 10 Van Halen Guitar Riffs!

[@ericslade8030]

That rules. I am 53 years old and playing this for my 13 year old. He is not impressed, but boy am I.

[@PDXguitarfreak]

LOL thanks Eric! I appreciate that nice words, and I can relate having two teens at home :)

[@Dennisthemenace40]

PDX Guitar Freak Really nice work! Missing that man today. RIP Eddie ✝️

[@blacklion401]

Awesome job. And yes “ I’m the One” is extremely hard to play like Ed. His shuffle is the best 🤘🏻🤘🏻

[@carzz185]

great list! here is mine: 1 on fire 2 ain't talking bout love 3 little dreamer 4 D.O.A. 5 somebody get me a doctor 6 fools 7 unchained 8 mean street 9 panama 10 house of pain honorable mentions 1 feel your love tonight 2 outta love 3 hear about it later 4 hang 'em high 5 drop dead legs

[@PDXguitarfreak]

yeah you have a great list too bro! And MUCH respect for including Outta Love Again as an honorable mention. That riff is so simple, but FEELS so good. If I had kept going and did Top 20, it would have been there.... and the solo in that song is one of my favorites too :)

[@dankkgamerzz3223]

Totally agree as a guitar player at 1:20

[@s.m.sparks3485]

Awesome! Awesome! Awesome! Great intros and some of Eddie’s best licks and chops. Would’ve loved to hear both “Women in Love” and “Mean Streets”. Mean Streets is balls to the walk, in your face song and I love the tone Eddie sets with it. Women in Love is just so melodic. Two of my favorite DDR era songs.

[@truthteller1951]

I’m just wrapping up refinishing my ‘83 Baretta. Thank you for the renewed inspiration and fantastic licks!

[@ronnsnow2859]

5150 is easily the most underrated Van Halen song. Eddie's best work.

[@swvastories3498]

Yes! Great job on that one.

[@spacenerd9499]

5150 is my favorite album. but there are definitely not a shortage of epic songs in history

[@rogeralleyne9257]

What I love about this video is how you spotlight EVH's tremendous rhythmic chops which is so underestimated in regards to great guitar playing!!!🙏🙏🙏

[@RogerBadgerDSFlyer]

EVH was, and still is (in memory), awesome. My favourite guitarist.

[@kojam1]

I've always said...people marvel at his lead playing, which they should, but neglect his rhythm playing. He's equally as amazing on rhythm as on lead. He's the full package! Problem with most music today is that people concentrate only on the lead and cannot write interesting articulate brilliant rhythm. I could listen to him without him ever playing one lead run and STILL be extremely in awe! Same for Randy, Paige, Iommi, Cantrell...I'll end it here. Thanks for this bro. Learned something new too...about his using the V. Thought I knew everything about him. Guess not. How u getting your sound? I likes! Not a fan of his Stealth. That's only because, I think him and his Frankensteins were so good together. Match made in heaven by the Gods. It's like when a dad brings home a perfect perfectly great woman to replace your mom, The Greatest woman ever. The new woman is awesome but your mom is awesome'r. Lmao

[@PDXguitarfreak]

Thanks bro, for the well thought comment. I totally agree about the rhythms. Compare him to someone like George Lynch. To me, and I love George's solos, his rhythm playing is usually pretty boring. Therefore, whenever I hear Dokken, I just skip to the solo LOL. With Eddie, the rhythm playing is almost always great... well, and the songs are always great with VH :) ... As for the guitars, I understand what you are saying. The Frankies will always be what I picture Ed playing, as much as I love the Wolfies.

[@kojam1]

@@PDXguitarfreak Hear u. So, mind to share your tone secrets?

[@brithesignguy]

Great job. I love your lessons and the way you include the tabs. Keep up the good work

[@PDXguitarfreak]

Thanks bro, I appreciate the comment! :)

[@73BGTA]

Excellent list. Excellent playing. I’ve learned more from your vids than I can ever adequately thank you for!

[@PDXguitarfreak]

Thanks and you are very welcome! :)

[@markslima1557]

your playing and lessons are helping me get through quarantine! thanks!

[@PDXguitarfreak]

Ahh, thanks Mark, I'm glad to hear I'm doing something good. :)

[@atomicfriendo]

Great list and even greater playing. If this was a top 12 list I would have hoped to see a couple of under-the-radar riffs like Sinner's Swing and Amsterdam

[@davidpierce9949]

And Little Dreamer w its slow Bluesy sound and that bass too. Great song

[@tonyrodriguez2566]

Great selections! Thank you for taking the time to make this video. Enjoyed the narratives.

[@alcondragon]

Awesome Job!!! ....It's truly amazing when we sit to think that this music never existed until created from this one person! Add to the mix David Lee Roth's howling/screaming vocals, Michael Anthony's awesome backing vocals as well as excellent base riffs and Alex Van Halen's signature drumming style .... I am so glad I got to live it live!.... Great Work Sir! (as usual)

[@PDXguitarfreak]

Yeah, me too, Jim! First concert was VH on the 1984 tour... wish I could have seen them earlier though! They are simply one of those bands that made magic in their day :)

[@jimwgt]

Awesome video, love all of those. My list would have Mean Street and Hang’m High.

[@PDXguitarfreak]

EXCELLENT choices! :)

[@cheerwhiner7829]

Whenever I hear the beginning of “Beautiful Girls”, I always of Adam Sandler and Chris Farley doing their Beer Commercial on SNL - Hilarious 😂 2:31

[@ethanmichael7940]

Rest in peace Chris

[@siskokidd]

Some of my favorites are included here for sure. As odd as it may sound, I enjoy playing them on acoustic. Muting adds a whole lot to those notes and chords on acoustic. My guitarist friends just shake their head. The non musicians nod their heads. On 5150 I play a modified version (less chunk a chunk, but still chunky) in the lowest fret position for D. You know, at the nut and first three frets. I play the entire song, rhythm part only. After decades of playing self taught bass in and out of bands, when KZbin came along and I began watching dudes like you cover songs, it was the first time I was able to watch and learn 6 string chord shapes, picking and strumming patterns, at my pace. At one point I said, "I can do that!" Months later with a cheap acoustic I was playing all my favorite 80's riffs. I owe you a big thanks!

[@PDXguitarfreak]

That's awesome bro, and I'm not surprised that you enjoy playing them on acoustic. I am picturing myself doing the same, and it would definitely be fun. Great comment! :)

[@siskokidd]

@@PDXguitarfreak Just in case you're curious what a few months playing 6 string sounds like, go search the video titled "4 Way Hysteria" here on YT. It's a Def Leppard cover I put together with me playing multiple parts.

[@PDXguitarfreak]

@@siskokidd That was very cool. I love hearing just the guitars like that. Very very nice!

[@siskokidd]

@@PDXguitarfreak While we're talking EVH, I remember years ago someone asking Ed where he got his rhythm style, and he answered that because they were essentially a cover band for years, he began to search for ways to incorporate the other instrument parts of a song (keyboard, horn...) other than just guitar, or to enhance the bottom end by emphasizing the root note as part of a riff. That combination defines his style. You hear that all over his early playing, which was then followed by many other 80's guitarists. When I started playing 6 string and learning parts, my tendency was/is to first establish the root bass note (thinking like a bass player), then build from that. I love EVH's playing for that reason. I get what he's doing musically.

[@xavier25]

Really enjoyed your playing! You Rock!

[@RobNY5150]

All great riffs!

[@PDXguitarfreak]

Thanks Rob! :)

[@Onoins425]

Quality, mate. I loved the RATT vid you posted, too. Oh, and I love the slime green Charvel!

[@ronhoughton5147]

Great job brother!

[@anthonykent5075]

Excellent job man! Enjoyed the heck outta listening to this! Also nice collection on the wall! 🤘

[@HanValen]

I border on burning my guitars or really practicing a lot more every time I watch your videos. You nail it every time! You actually inspire me to keep playing! Thanks!! - Beautiful Girls is my jam...That verse feel is so Eddie....

[@mikezimmerman9547]

love that phaser (I think thats the effect called for) on unchained!

[@MarkPritchardGuitar]

Very nice, a great choice of riffs buddy!

[@PDXguitarfreak]

Hey thanks Mark! Rock on bro! :)

[@johnmarshall3903]

Great playing! Very well done, not a big fan of modelers, but you even got that dialed way better than most guys ever do, for old VH. New sub 👍

[@in5d]

I could never get the picking down correctly on I'm The One. My mind keeps telling me down up down up when I know its up down up down.

[@fatherof3kidz]

Tasteful and well executed. Great job on tone too.

[@_luca_02_63]

Amazing video and playing! I'm a 17 guitarist and huge fan of Van Halen 🤘🎸

[@martyperry4256]

Great Playing

[@PDXguitarfreak]

Thanks Marty! :)

[@jeffersononetwo]

Killer riffs bro! Thanks for posting this today!

[@PDXguitarfreak]

Hey Jeff! Thanks brother! ::)

[@michaeleaster1815]

I''m late to the party, but this was fabulous! You really captured the songs, which isn't easy without a backing track... thanks for sharing :-)

[@stratocasterbob]

Hi Dave ! Yeah, your list pretty much is mine too. So many of Eddie's riffs have a fantastic hook it's hard to pick the best. I have a few to add to your list....no particular order.....Jamie's Crying, Beautiful Girls , Take Your Whiskey Home, Mean Street, Hot For Teacher ! Awesome Axe, definitely not a HB !!!! Bob

[@PDXguitarfreak]

Great choices Bob! Whiskey and Mean Street almost made it! :)

[@scottwaszak698]

Pretty much what I would've chosen!😀👍 Excellent!

[@8Junio76]

Excellent video. Cheers mate.

[@bravofoxable]

The first VH song I heard was atomic punk, over radio. Went out to buy the LP the next day. Eruption is stil one of my faves, ever. My fave on your list: ain't talking about love, for sure.... Very well done btw 👍🏻👌🏻

[@PDXguitarfreak]

Hi Frans, and thank you! I can't remember the first VH song I heard... wow, I'm scratching my head now. It may have been Everybody Wants Some, but I can't say for sure. I know the first riff from VH that I learned was their version of You Really Got Me. :)

[@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812]

I think my introduction to VH was Jump.

[@PhilFeedback]

Great job! “Unchained”. Has always been one of my favorite VH songs

[@Oldpimp66]

The best strap lock system you can buy lol. A trip to Lowes and your all set!

[@YanksOnTop]

You gotta have little guitars in here and maybe mean street. But drop dead legs! That was killer.. love that song. So many great riffs it's pretty hard to go wrong. Nice work again!

[@Cherry_Sunburst]

Very well playing...respect, man!

[@calvincraft5626]

As usual, ridiculously good playing. You easily could be in a band like The Atomic Punks or the like. My list of VH openers I really like that weren't covered here (you hit several of the best though, IMHO). 1. Me Wise Magic (hidden gem in my opinion) 2. Women in Love (tap harmonics, awesome tone) 3. Humans Being (don't dig the vocals but the guitar in this one is killer) 4. Pleasuredome (another great guitar track with questionable vocal choices) 5. Mean Street (iconic) 6. Girl Gone Bad (more harmonic badassness) 7. Sucker in a 3 Piece (Eddie is also king of the pick slide in my opinion) 8. Cabo Wabo (one of my all time fav Hagar tracks) 9. Big River (work up of that old demo Big Trouble, but killer guitar riff on this) 10. Hang em High (has that I'm the One vibe)

[@PDXguitarfreak]

That's a great list Calvin! You are one of the few people I have ever heard to acknowledge Eddie's pick slides, and I TOTALLY agree. Not just the pick slides, but the way he does those fast slides down (or up and down) the E string while playing riffs. He does it quite a bit, and it always accentuates the riffs so well LOL. :)

[@fredrikthegent1546]

Really good video, nice that you added some facts while playing the riffs. Would have wanted to see AFU naturally wired but really good job mate. :)

[@jason-stern]

Great tone and playing brother!

[@purplecow5150]

Wow. That was awesome 😎 Thanks 🤘

[@terryf5131]

Glad I found this... subscribed!!!

[@Pewtooyou]

I'm more of a fan of Eddie's more technical playing during the Sammy years but regardless those ones you did were played with excellence...Well Done!!!

[@cheatereater3495]

Great selection and being a younger player, the little footnotes were refreshing

[@DaddyThrustAlot]

Great stuff. Love DeMartini's take on EVHs riffs, BTW. My favorite Van Halen riffs are probably Mean Street (all riffs - the chorus riff is pretty hard to get right I find) and She's the Woman (1978 demo).

[@PDXguitarfreak]

yeah, great choices! Mean Street came close to being on the list too. I love all of the riffs in that song... the funky one right before the solo still give me goosebumps after hearing it 10,000x! :)

[@ganeshraomd]

Great list. Your lesson on the Panama solo (with the tip for the upstroke on the high E string) kept me from going insane. I'm a huge fan of the Roth era too but there are definitely some great Hagar era riffs. How about another list of Hagar era riffs?

[@PDXguitarfreak]

Thank you!!! I am thinking about doing a part two video with more riffs from both eras :)

[@Alex_Nicolas1]

Great video man. Not sure about top ten, but my top three for sure are Unchained, Drop Dead Legs, and Little Dreamer

[@PDXguitarfreak]

Thanks Alex! Great choices :)

[@TheDrewz43]

So, first time I’ve seen these videos and you are 2 for 2 on the best riffs from both Van Halen & Ratt!

[@123jozef]

Foo Fighters classic "Everlong" not only dissonant, but only possible with dropped D (low)...and such an Iconic riff..... Dr. Feelgood, RATM (Killing in the name of) Papa Roach "Last Resort" ~ Pantera "Walk" ~ Marilyn Manson "Beautiful People" ~ "Kashmir" Led Zep..... just to add a few more for you playahs who wanna give it a try. There are some great acoustic songs written with dropped D tunings AND a Capo (Fleetwood Mac, the Beatles) ....

[@Ratso_DeLynch]

YES man your content always delivered and there probably something we both agree on and that is : the classics are great sure , iron man , whole lotta love , heartbreaker etc etc and in this scenario I cant stand seeing lists of riffs that everyone and their grandma would know so a well known "overplayed" list would look like; 1. Unchained 2. Panama 3. You really got me 4. jump 5. Runnin with the devil *dont get me wrong I love all these but there's nothing underrated about them* it would be cool to see you do *a part 2 but of your fav underrated VH gems*! . Mine would probably be : 1. The full bug 2. Good enough 3. Dirty movies (the greatest in terms of Eddie's most underrated drop D groove imo!) 4. Without you ( lotta hate for that album but the spankin groove in that bridge /breakdown before the solo is just fire!) 5. The live bootleg cover of Led Zeppelin's *hots on for nowhere* yes look it up here on youtube, I loved that take from their clubbing days , quality is shot of course but for what it is I think it shows they had already captured lightning in a bottle together even back in those early days! . Hope you end up seeing this msg what would your underrated riff list looks like ? Give me a hint pdx 😉 haha thanks again for this awesome content keep it coming, cheers from Niagara Falls canada and stay safe/healthy where you are ! 🙏🤟😊 - Adam

[@PDXguitarfreak]

Hey Adam, I completely understand what you are saying. There are many Van Halen songs such as Panama that I usually don't listen to because they are so overplayed. However, I still love playing them, as strange as it sounds LOL. As for VH tunes that don't get enough love, here's a few on my list: Outta Love Again (love the groove and solo), Take Your Whiskey Home (I suppose it does get love, but not enough), Could This Be Magic (It just makes me smile every time), EVERYTHING on Fair Warning that gets ignored (which is more than half of the album), and The Trouble With Never (I just really dig the main riff/groove). :)

[@markhoyle2988]

Great job! Awesome!

[@flyfishincrazy]

Great list!

[@cristianconnolly2709]

Great list! It's hard with so many great ones but mine would be (not it order). Panama, aint talkin bout love, Big river, somebody get me a doctor, unchained, 5150, running with the devil, your no good, hot for teacher, girl gone Bad.

[@PDXguitarfreak]

Great list Cristian! Looks like we are aligned 60% off the bat :)

[@gotem7749]

I don't think top 10 is enough for VH!! Lol great vid again, keep it up!

[@PDXguitarfreak]

Yeah it was hard to narrow it down to just 10! :)

[@SR-jd6qe]

That must of been hard to narrow down. I think that you did a great job with your choices, sound, and technical playing. Most people don't play "Feel Your Love", intro the right way but you nailed it along with the rest.

[@PDXguitarfreak]

Very hard to narrow it down, for sure! :) Thanks SR!

[@yonikup2865]

Oh hell yeah! What band do you have in mind for the next one? Maybe ratt or ozzy 😉

[@PDXguitarfreak]

Hey Yoni, I will definitely do more of these in the future. Very fun to do... and yeah, Ratt and Ozzy will be included at some point for sure! :)

[@Matiasss1980]

Excellent!

[@PDXguitarfreak]

Thanks RG! :)

[@Skidder17]

Very cool nice job! Liked them all ...personal favourite not on the list would be Mean Streets

[@neub4321]

Sounded very much like the originals. You're knowledgeable and in control. Great choices. I saw Van Halen live in Madison Square Garden, and Eddie coaxed sounds out of the instrument that didn't even sound like guitar. He's tough to follow. How is Portland these days?

[@paulgeary531]

Have to agree. Great list! So many however, but definitely a good start.

[@PDXguitarfreak]

Thanks Paul! :)

[@satchbooggy]

excellent man. I need to do one of these. VH II is my fave album of all time but my list would cover some ground haha

[@PDXguitarfreak]

Dude, good to hear from you! You should absolutely do one of these - can't think of anyone that knows more VH riffs LOL :)

[@Locknar77]

Great job as usual PDX! Can't argue with that list, but I'd find a way to get more FW tracks on there. Sinner Swing, Mean Street, etc.

[@PDXguitarfreak]

Thanks man! Fair Warning and the first album are actually my favorites. So much great stuff on FW that just doesn't get appreciated. I almost put Mean Street on this one... it was so hard to choose the songs. If I kept doing with my list, it definitely would have been there :)

[@Locknar77]

@@PDXguitarfreak Speaking of under-appreciated. Awesome to hear House of Pain in your top ten!! Crazy to think that one goes all the way back to VH 0, but they held onto it until 1984. Tho I think the deal is since YRGM was a hit, they'd pressure EVH to do more covers rather than originals. And albums were like 30 minutes of music back in those days.

[@MIKO_MDG]

Dude if my eyes were closed I would SWEAR Ain't Talkin' Bout Love was right off the rekkit. Damn, your sound is PERFEK!! Also kinda coveting that EVH sig axe LOL

[@AmericanGuitarWorksInc]

Awesome list and great tone.... need mean street intro bro!!!!!!! PLEASE

[@ShamanColaLive]

Awesome!

[@PDXguitarfreak]

Thanks! :)

[@MarbsMusic]

Very nice! I'm sure you love your signature model as much as I do mine! I've always played Panama as you do but when I saw VH about 8 years ago he seemed to be just pulling a pull-off second to open rather than the slide during the verse. I know he did the slide on 1984 and 5150 tour but it looked like he changed how he played it for those final tours. Great work on those!

[@brokenchains]

Sounds killer Dave, would love to hear those riffs played in your Orginal HD500 VS the Helix, your tones with the HD were killer

[@PDXguitarfreak]

Thanks bro! I sold the HD500 when I bought the Helix, but it would be fun to do a side by side comparison :)

[@brokenchains]

PDX Guitar Freak Oh man, I can see that, they are selling pretty low on the used market now, the Helix scares me because of the learning curve, if I get one down the road you will be the first guy I DM for help lol

[@rossman265]

What effects do you use? Always amazing!

[@PDXguitarfreak]

Thanks!!! My guitar is running through my Line 6 Helix processor, and then right into the computer. For effects, in addition to what I call out in the video, most of these riffs have a tiny bit of chorus, and reverb, and also delay.

[@Charvel1980]

AWESOME. I could hear Little Girls playing in the background during the intro and outro of the video. Did you play that on your mini Les Paul? Also i wish you had kept going with House of Pain. That song really does have so many great riffs in it. You rule!

[@PDXguitarfreak]

LOL I think you meant to say Little "Guitars," and yeah I played that in the background and on my mini Lotus LP copy. Thanks! :)

[@Charvel1980]

@@PDXguitarfreak Hahaha yeah I guess I blended Little Guitars with Beautiful Girls!

[@joepipe1010]

Only VhRoth production. Great playing and Wolf

[@mikebetley467]

Great Playing. Mean Street and Romeo Delight are great to include next time.

[@miketheheartbreakkidvitale1783]

Glad you had Unchained on the list. To me (I'm not a guitarist) the intro to that song is one of the if not the best intros in rock n roll history & the rest of the song kicks ass to. Great list. Was this just a songs in the DLR era only & you're gonna do a songs in the Sammy era list down the road or not bcuz there are some excellent intros in that era also.

[@PDXguitarfreak]

Thanks Mike! I did sneak in one Sammy era riff (5150), but I may end up having to do a part 2 video because there are just so many others I love. :)

[@miketheheartbreakkidvitale1783]

@@PDXguitarfreak I can't wait to hear more bud!! 👍👍😎😎

[@wanderdworld]

Yeah you got the tone nailed down. Very nice

[@darke812]

Excellent selection! You picked some "deep cuts" (no such thing for real EVH fan) like House of pain, I'm the One, Drop Dead Legs, and of course some must haves!. Would had to have included Romeo Delight or Tora, Tora from Women and Children. But hell, picking just 10 favs? IMPOSIBLE!

[@joepipe1010]

Groove and felling from every note King Eddy

[@TeleCarlitos]

I wasn't a fan of 5150 & ou812 but lately, been really into learning the keyboard parts for the guitar. The live album is pretty cool too.

[@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812]

Honestly, if OU812 had producer/engineer Andy Johns behind the sound I think way more people would love the album. In my opinion it has the least amount of songs to skip.

[@satchbooggy]

you got a great drop dead legs tone man

[@ozzydoop1473]

Awesome thanks man

[@NightmareSnake]

I've seen several videos exactly like this but nobody played Good Enough. that's one of my personal favorite riffs, and I'm surprised it's not being given more attention.

[@ctsguitar]

Love that Wolfgang guitar! Wish I could get one left handed.

[@PDXguitarfreak]

I feel for you bro! They are fun! :)

[@ctsguitar]

PDX Guitar Freak Was it a custom order with the arcade button kill switch? So cool!

[@PDXguitarfreak]

@@ctsguitar Nope, those come standard on the USA Signature model :)

[@russj8159]

RIP Eddie 😢

[@angelscheffel]

Nice job 👊🏻

[@tomfoglietta2453]

Nice job and great playing. The phrasing is very true to the original and the tones à very Evh. What are you playing through.? Job well done

[@PDXguitarfreak]

Thanks Tom! I'm using a Line 6 Helix for the tones. :)

[@tomfoglietta2453]

@@PDXguitarfreak you did a great job and getting it to sound good is no easy task. Well done my friend

[@josephblomeister3040]

AWESOME!!!

[@RossBayCult]

For me my favorite 10 riffs DOA Jamie’s Cryin Fools Runnin’ Somebody Get Me A Doctor Unchained Atomic Punk House Of Pain Little Dreamer Panama

[@paulhiggs5172]

Excellent

[@scottfarcus2645]

Super Awesome 🤘🏼🤨🤘🏼

[@davidcollins4993]

Hangem High and Women in love . That intro melody is amazing to me . Ratt Shame Shame Shame is influenced by Hangem High to me . That is great riffing your doing though . He amazed me how Running With the Devil intro sounds so huge in tonality .

[@joeseabreeze]

you pretty much nailed it

[@crazydude7071]

Which pedal do you use for this amazing suond (flanger, phaser and other?).

[@PDXguitarfreak]

Thanks! I am using a Line 6 Helix processor (guitar into Helix into computer). The onboard effects used, depending on the song I played, are chorus, flanger, delay and reverb). :)

[@crazydude7071]

@@PDXguitarfreak ok great! Thanks.

[@lorenzodegani6971]

FANTASTIKKKKKKKKKKK GRAZIEEEEEE

[@PDXguitarfreak]

sei il benvenuto amico mio! :)

[@irammendez8683]

KILLER BRO ...LONG LIVE THE KING EDWARD VAN HALEN...R.I.P BROTHER

[@3to5andglassy]

Might be time for you to do Blood and Fire by VH. Great solo!

[@Anna_Nimmitty]

IMPRESSIVE!!

[@Charvel1980]

I forgot to say that I laughed when I thought about Drop Dead Legs being in Drop D tuning LOL

[@PDXguitarfreak]

Ha! Good point! :)

[@stevenarseneault1972]

Drop D featuring Eddie's Leggatos. I figure that was the origin for the title and probably David who came up with it since he wrote the lyrics.

[@carlosfernandocaceres552]

Great intros, I’ll include also Women in Love! One question.....how do you keep your guitar whammy bar so lose without making any annoying sound when falling?