Top 5 Best, Worst and Blandest Episodes of The Owl House

The Owl House is nearing it's end, and so join Lily as she counts down the best, worst and blandest episodes of the show. This video contains unmarked spoilers.
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00:00 - Preview
00:06 - Intro
00:42 - 5th Best
01:20 - 5th Blandest
01:46 - 5th Worst
02:41 - 4th Best
03:19 - 4th Blandest
03:28 - 4th Worst
04:05 - 3rd Best
05:05 - 3rd Blandest
05:26 - 3rd Worst
06:29 - 2nd Best
07:16 - 2nd Blandest
07:51 - 2nd Worst
08:42 - Best Episode
09:42 - Blandest Episode
10:17 - Worst Episode
11:40 - Conclusion
#theowlhouse #luznoceda #danaterrace

[@Lily_Orchard]

Note: If you're gonna whine that I think Hunter is a pointless character, your comments are going to be hidden. Yes yes I know "his story's about realizing he's being abused!" There's already a good story about parental abuse in The Owl House with a much better written character who has an actual personality. I've heard all the same crap from Hunter stans just reiterating his intended character arc. It takes him five episodes to move an inch forward, and in all that time he hogs screen time away from much better written, more interesting characters. That's the crux of the criticism. He is a screentime hog, and he does very little with the screentime he steals. *Engage with that criticism of the character instead of talking past it or your comments will be deleted.*

[@twonkwonk]

Honestly glad you agree, as much as I like Hunter he's kind of just an attention hog

[@StrayNebarius]

This. This right here. This is why I am such a fan. Because you do not cater to the masses and their bullshit. You are not backing down ever. And for that I thank you.

[@maple7093]

And this is exactly why I think Huntlow makes less sense than goddamn Lily and Hooty. Yes, Lily, the aroace, has more reasons to be in a relationship with owl tube house Satan than Hunter and Willow have for being together.

[@Lily_Orchard]

@@maple7093 The show hasn't confirmed Lilith's orientation yet, so this argument is fallacious

[@CarlosGuzman-vi9xw]

holy cow! 4 of your worst picks are my FAVORITES ; and 4 of your best picks are my LEAST likable, WHAT'S WRONG WITH U?

[@Sunderland3646]

I like the fact that Luz has to have a reality check and learn not to use fantasy as escapism while Belos clearly never snapped out of his witch hunter fantasies. No wonder his inner self is a child.

[@maple7093]

Luz has the fantasy brutally beaten out of her, Belos has it exploded in his hands by a child.

[@maple7093]

"even if you claim you're waiting for the official release, you've seen it" is gonna be the one single quote I will use every single time before a show airs an episode that got leaked.

[@Firoppy]

dammit itunes, again?!

[@koolgamers6763]

I haven’t seen it cause I can’t find it anywhere lol

[@MommaDusk]

I have yet to watch it or look into where to watch it. Not for any reason other than I'm lazy and want to watch with my family.

[@maple7093]

@@MommaDusk honestly relateable. Also where I live the premiere is at 4 AM and I wanna watch it with my gf.

[@maple7093]

@@koolgamers6763 someone uploaded the whole thing to yt once lmao

[@ginaalya4145]

I don't even hate Hunter he's...fine at times, but every major/supporting character introduced has been more interesting. It baffles me that Dana liked a character so much, but refused to actually develop him as his own character. You know why Hunter has to latch himself on every character ever, it's because he doesn't have enough going on with his own self to dedicate 22 minutes to.

[@ThePrincessCH]

You know what they say about love being blind.

[@ZessXXify]

The worst thing about the bodyswap episode is that it chooses not to do anything fun with it. Instead of watching King’s voice coming out of Luz or Eda making the same kind of expressions as Luz but with her own features, they swapped their faces as well, making it less impressive to watch. The inciting incident wasn’t anything special either, just another Freaky Friday.

[@TobiasDrake]

Oh, wow. I've been trying to figure out exactly what's been bothering me about Luz's character in later seasons, and you nailed it. What happened is that Luz used to be a character whose response to guilt and emotional turmoil was to hit the nearest fascist with a rock. Now her response is to break down and wallow in self-pity while all of her supporting characters move the plot around her.

[@edalynclawthorne5877]

I like to see Witches Vs Wizards as the Owl House’s Pilot Part 2. It helps that they’re actively set one day apart, WbW literally occurring the day after Luz arrived, but the main reason is the way they build on the same lesson. They May not be the same story, but they build on the same point. A lying witch and a warden (episode 1 I hope) is there to assure Luz that her individuality isn’t a bad thing and that the stupid fucking camp idea is garbage. WbW jumps over E1’s shoulder, right after it’s done monologueing, shouting “BUT!”. And from there it brings in the nuances to what Luz needs to learn. Episode 1 teaches Luz to be self assured in her individuality at a moment of her life where she’s vulnerable, and episode 2 teaches her that you still need to learn to check it. That you need to be self aware and capable in the real world. And it’s this dual lesson she applies: She scant ever tries to conform, and every time she’s falling into her fantasy world, she’s either forced or proactive stops for a second, pauses or lowers the volume of her fantasy loving self for a second to assess the situation and solve it. Then resumes. Best yet, she got to the point where she stopped descending to her fantasy world and just faced the world as it came (literally Season 2A).

[@Marsh388]

One of my problems with this series is the redemption of the Blight family. At first it seemed there was shades of grey to everyone, now it’s like “every problematic action by the Blights can be blamed on mom” it’s too clean and easy.

[@yikes2872]

This is exactly how I feel! Because the Dad still neglected them, the twins, no matter how charming and funny, where still really bitchy on multiple occasions, and Amity with her whole, her being a bully, while that got resolved is still a past mistake she had to atone. I liked how none of them where completely innocent and while we can understand why they did those actions, I wish they weren't excused of it, and brushed under the rug. I do wish the Dad was on the Mom's side at the beginning and knew about all the shitty thing the Mom was doing, so it was an equal type of thing.

[@penne4107]

I don’t feel like they completely relieved her dad of responsibility. I think he acknowledged that he wasn’t paying enough attention them and that he was neglecting them, specifically when Amity brought it up. However I wish there was more time to delve deeper into that, and into why the twins were the way they were.

[@celestialhumanoid]

The twins apologized to amity and it was shown in later episodes that they cared about her, alador took a bit to realize his wrongdoings and amity didn't accept his apology right away, he was redeemed but took time to atone for himself.

[@madelinehutchinson]

4:29 I genuinely can only hear Luz calling Lilith a bitch and it fits so well I can’t tell if that was edited or my brain taking part in wish fulfillment

[@squeezingwetfarts]

I hear it as well

[@Rebirth._]

what is it MEANT TO SAY???

[@undyingUmbrage413]

@@Rebirth._ "Talk to the glyph, Witch"

[@faraquet5172]

I do like Hunter a lot because of his character concept being an insecure kid with self-esteem issues having to face the realization that his idol/family isn't really what he thought it was, but it all would've been executed so much better if his character development didn't have to shove other interesting characters' development to the sidelines. Hell I enjoy Willow a lot more than Amity, Willow has so much potential as a character but "her" episodes didn't do her any justice, wish I could've seen what would've happened if the show wasn't cut short lol.

[@ludovicocarlofrancescopich3017]

Hollow Mind wasn’t supposed to reveal anything to the watchers, but to reveal everything to the protagonists. So the story could go on.

[@duane6386]

It reveals the draining spell and the fact Belos is a witch hunter

[@SocialDuck101]

@@duane6386yeah, basically. We knew about the draining spell from the end of the previous episode, but we didn’t know about it’s full extents, why Belos was doing it, Belos’ full worldview/backstory, etc.

[@AshleyTheFighter]

Lovely, still shouldn’t of taken an entire episode to reveal everything to the protagonists

[@TomatrontheOne]

It’s kinda amazing how I can enjoy watching your videos, even when I agree with absolutely nothing you say

[@OniNoSweeney]

It is strangely fascinating. I'm a Willow fan, but I don't hate Hunter or Amity enough that I find they detract from her two best episodes.

[@Goldenevil91]

I will be honest I am mad that Willow and Gus hardly got any episodes. Also that we simply speedrun through Eda and her situation with her father...while we dragged with that one episode about Eda and Lillith's mother - and hardly bitting into the meat of issues between them.

[@nobodyhereisnamedalized]

This video informed me that the episode got leaked....and I have no shame in admitting I went to find it afterwards.

[@eldritchinsomniac]

YES! Finally someone else that loves witches before wizards! And as much as I think the collector plot was forced in, it even feels like foreshadowing for him puppeteering people and playing pretend to be the main character!

[@waifu_png_pl6854]

finally, someone who doesnt think hunter is gods gift to animation. hes just so meh, ive seen his type in so many cartoons, movies etc and i dont like it. its the sad sack of angst that just begs for the viewers sympathy. whether he deserves it or not is irrelevant, i just dont want this type of character again and again. for the future is doing a lot of huntlow teasing and honestly? willow deserves better. this dude almost got her kidnapped into the emperors coven. willow and gus could be cute as a childhood friends to lovers story. willow and vee could be sweet. literally anyone else than people who tried to seriously harm her hunter himself introduces nothing to the story. we get parental abuse and manipulation and such, but thats done better with amity and her siblings (which are fun characters in their own right). we get the whole grimwalker angle but what does that even mean? i dont really understand that, how would being a clone of belos's relative be worse than being belos's relative (as previously hunter knew below as his uncle)? i truly dont get it the one good thing to come from for the future is camila being best mom for another episode. shes my favorite character now, her providing support for the kids + being a nerd is awesome

[@I_have_a_new_desk]

Hunter feels like a watt pad self insert like you’d said on how he doesn’t have any plot relevance. His backstory is one I would write when I was 13 “nephew of the evil emperor that’s witty but really angsty and tragic later on” you feel the Dana’s favoritism with him. Luz’s friends get less development than her enemy’s (only rivaling the collector’s in that right)

[@kmmk5022]

Plus Luz’s arc about developing her friendship with Willow and Gus went to Hunter instead Luz couldn’t have a beautiful friendship with Willow and Gus but Hunter took it as if he’s the protagonist

[@coleydotmp4]

While i want to say it's a product of the show getting cut short, 10 episodes (s2b) + the equivalent of 6 episodes (the 3 40m specials) is MORE THAN ENOUGH TIME to wrap up all the lose ends and come to a satisfying conclusion, and when 2a had finished airing, i really had faith that's how it would go, despite the cancellation. But I really think there's a lot of poor choices that were made, ESPECIALLY with Luz's character and Hunter wasting time + space. Luz was so hopeful and badass, its like Hunter literally dragged her down with him into Mopey Teenager Land. They've got one episode left to show us how great Luz can be again and reach a satisfying conclusion, but now I don't feel like it's enough time after they wasted so. much. time. I love the show still, will always hold it dear to my heart, and in no way is it as bad of a fumble as Steven Universe was (that was a multi-season + prologue season fumble), but man, so much lost potential.

[@metroidnerd9001]

I definitely agree with your point about Hunter kind of sidelining Willow and Gus in their Season 2B focus episodes. While the episodes start out about them, once he shows up, he gets a lot more of the focus than they do. While I do like Hunter as a character, it does frustrate me that he steals away the spotlight so much, especially in the eyes of "the fandom." And I think because a lot of Hunter's plot feels like a retreading of Amity's plot, he didn't need quite as much focus as he got.

[@kmmk5022]

Do you think the show shouldve just cut Hunter from the show all together?

[@metroidnerd9001]

@@kmmk5022 No, but I do think they could have balanced his focus more with the other characters.

[@kmmk5022]

@@metroidnerd9001 I think he worked better as an independent character. Not associating with the emperors coven nor with Luz and her group

[@Catathyst]

FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE WHO LIKES WITCHES BEFORE WIZARDS!!! THANK YOU!!!

[@colbaltmind5696]

I'm glad Hunter isn't completely detestable, he's just bland. I'd rather have a character just exist than be morally detestible (cough cough Steven Universe Diamonds.) Hunter is just an edgy kid which can be funny at times from an older perspective

[@offthewall9807]

I wish I read the description- I REALLY WISH I READ THE DESCRIPTION. Believe it or not I have, in fact, not watched the leaked episode. I've been sitting under the blistering sun with cracked lips while carving out a smile in my face with a shard of glass from the glass of water I threw at the closest hard surface THE MOMENT I FOUND OUT ABOUT THE LEAK! Yes there's an oasis of cool, fresh water only a few meters away and any SANE person would have gone for a drink before the vultures above decide to pick at the easy prey. NOT TO MENTION the country barriers forcing me to be unable to actually watch when it airs and needing to wait those few extra hours for the KZbin release. I however, am not sane. I've been running from spoilers like a mouse from a cat. Racing against neurons as I click away in that microsecond between registering the spoiler and seeing the full image. And like a ghost succeeding at pushing over a glass people will inevitably blame the cat for, I've been proud at doing the most meaningless task of waiting for the full release. And yet, in my ignorance, I failed to read the description. Why have I still been consuming owl house content when I'm trying not be spoiled, asks no one? Well because I am an idiot. Anyway thanks for the spoiler, I'll be back in around 6 days or so depending on how soon I consume that sweet, refreshing H2O.

[@Lily_Orchard]

The internet needs to collectively calm down about spoilers. They're not that big a deal.

[@offthewall9807]

@@Lily_Orchard I guess but there's a certain ecstasy to be had when going into something with an empty mind and discovering something amazing, even if you're expecting good things from the get-go.

[@dannyvalward1524]

@@offthewall9807 There's also a nice effekt by knowing what's going to happen in the end, and watching it all onfolt. Or in my safed time, when I know what kind of crap twists is going to be pulled on me and safing myself the painfull show of ignorance and stupidity. In short: I like spoilers :)

[@Lily_Orchard]

No there isn't. Try spoiling yourself on things for a while and see how it goes.

[@dannyvalward1524]

@@Lily_Orchard I did. Never regretted it.

[@alulim1338]

W-Angsty Hunter is a valid criticism, and one that I share to an extent. I do have a bit of a weakness for characters getting put through the emotional wringer, so my disdain is not as pronounced. I just take the generous assumption that Hunter and the characters he stole the show from would've been handled better if the show hadn't had it's runtime butchered.

[@Lily_Orchard]

I disagree. I think the sidelining would have only gotten worse

[@ponygonporygon2153]

The same thing was said when Season 1 was happening and season 2 the new shiny. Truth is Willow and Gus will consistently be sidelined because they care about Hunter and Lumity more. When Willow has her Stand For Everfree moment just like Gus it's Hunter who has to pull her out. If Season 3 wasn't cut, it would've been the same. The only time they get to shine is when they have to continue to show they are ridiculously strong in their magic fields.

[@alulim1338]

That's probably more likely.

[@whatgsaid]

Lmao I actually like Hunter, but opening with Hunter slander was an *excellent* hook. Peak comedy. You know Lily’s good at her job when she can entertain you by ripping on a character you like and making you think about it.

[@AviciPerry]

Ngl tho i really enjoy whenever you upload its so easy to get swept up by fandom mentality but you always manage to put my feelings into words perfectly. I was so frustrated with myself for losing interest in the owl house because it was such a good show and it was so confusing to see so many people praise it throughout season 2b saying stuff like “it got good” when i was just growing more and more frustrated with it

[@jw5397.]

I mean, I feel like Lily has never really cared about spoilers and this is the internet after all so idk why people are shocked lol

[@Lily_Orchard]

Spoiler culture is a plague. Spoil yourselves and kick the smack habit

[@jw5397.]

@@Lily_OrchardI feel like spoiler culture could be interesting as a video topic, on the one hand I do think people trying to avoid them at all costs to the point of forcing entire spaces to accommodate their no-spoilers obsessions can be pretty ridiculous, but also like some others have said I think there’s some fun in trying to predict what might happen on your own as long as you don’t annoy others in the process. But then again, if a show/movie has to rely on shock factor and mystery mongering rather than good storytelling and good characters, then is there really any substance there once you know the spoilers…? Idk, but personally I like to look at spoilers for some shows but not for others, it just depends how invested I am ig

[@Chaos_Dragoon]

am I the only one who heard: talk to the glyph witch and went, WHOA! this is a disney show and then realized she said witch

[@keyairahscrazystudios689]

Wow out of all places I could've been spoiled, I wasn't expecting this video Good job

[@crossoverfan12]

Hi I would just like to say I like Hunter NOT because he’s an angsty white boy but BECAUSE he’s turns out to be a geek boy who likes sowing and is a furry with a wolf fursona

[@AviciPerry]

But.. those are literally basic interests that most humans hold and we didn’t even know he liked those things till one episode ago, i feel like you like the fandom’s version of hunter not really what’s shown on screen

[@ysabellarivera8166]

Didi i go into this video knowing that Lily will stomp on a character near and dear to my heart? Yes. Did I enjoy the video anyway because learning how to accept opinions that are different from your own and learning how to deal with it in a mature manner is an important life skill? Also yes. Love your videos, Lily!

[@kevinroot8680]

hunters worse trait is the fact that he's boring and all he does is done by better characters or should of been.

[@cheezbunni3530]

Edit: yoo always glad to see witches before wizards appreciation it has such a great theme and works with the rest of the show perfectly! Huh, kinda interesting to see the complaint of Owl house not sticking to its story coming from Lily but considering that they knew they were being cut short and didn’t take the time to refocus I guess it makes sense Though tbh I just kinda wanted to see more adventures with the rest of the crew so 2B worked pretty well for me (except the part where I was WAITING for a WILLOW episode for the ENTIRETY of 2B!)

[@kaitlinowens2714]

It’s a shame that Willow and Gus get sidelined so much as they are my favorite characters Gus because I like the smart kid trope and the kid that’s basically everyone’s younger sibling trope and he’s both rolled to one and his relationship with Willow is very we aren’t actually siblings but those who don’t know us that well think we are. Though the looking glass is definitely my favorite episode mostly because of Gus because it shows you why he’s a prodigy. Then you have Willow who is the team mom of the group and someone who you definitely shouldn’t mess with. Kinda wish we got more moments of her being team mom of the group. Also I relate to Willow because like willow I got bullied a lot for something out of my control and in primary school some of my main bullies used to be my friends and I have no full idea why they abandoned me.

[@dantejacks6956]

That pinocchios ashore line gets me everytime. And wow you're right, lots of waffling and nothing getting done. I guess I've fallen prey to their waffling too cause I was ready to say, "well that needed to be its own separate episode cause now the characters know what we the audience knows." but then I continue talking and realize if I knew that then having it confirmed to me just makes me feel smart. I'm being called a good boy for watching something I enjoy and doing nothing else. Wow I feel dumb sometimes. Also props to you for not including finales, never thought how easy those are to make and be loved by all.

[@ikeashark3337]

I have a slight criticism for the Hollow Mind section, I don't think this episode was supposed to be a crazy reveal plot twist epsiode, but more so a 100% confirmation of what other episodes have been building up to. But also, more importantly, this is an episode about Luz finding out about everything. Its less so a reveal for the audience, and more so a reveal for Luz (and Hunter I guess) The reason this episode acts like we don't know anything, is because Luz doesn't know anything. The show needed this episode because what Luz learns in this episode directly impacts the rest of the shows plot and Luz's decisions.

[@Lily_Orchard]

A "100% confirmation of things we've been building toward" doesn't work if the episode is boring. You can't get the character caught up at the expense of the audience.

[@cheezbunni3530]

@@Lily_Orchard I get that but the reason I think it works is because of Luz’s and Hunter’s reactions to it Luz is so distraught by the realization she ends up completely broken by it and Hunter’s VA goes all out in portraying him in this broken state And Belos also goes really hard and appears super menacing here

[@sfsin3380]

except the episode acts like it's a reveal to the audience. You can do stories where the audience knows more about the plot than the characters but you have to change how the reveal to the characters works. I.e don't do the big build without any real hints up like we're not supposed to know. Show little hints of the truth that we see like flashing neon signs but Luz can't because she doesn't have the info we do. We should be scared for Luz like that info is Hitchc*ck's b*mb under the table. Hallow Mind is structured like a "who done it" when it should have been a "how catch um".

[@jojogottagogo9234]

I’m sorry, did you just say that learning King is a Titan had no impact on the plot whatsoever?

[@RatBagel]

She also said that before the finale even came out, which im pretty sure is going to dive deeper into king being a titan.

[@RatBagel]

Oh boy I was VERY correct

[@ponygonporygon2153]

​​@@RatBagel I mean it really didn't in the long run. It just gave an excuse on why the collector was obsessed with him on sight. The archivists genocided the titans, we knew that already. Collector wants to befriend titans, we knew that already. The only thing of note is King has his own set of Glyphs and that's revealed at the ass end when it was just an excuse for Luz to relearn glyphs. Belos after learning King is a titan made no move after him.

[@ashleylightheart126]

I actually have not seen "For the future" I've actively been avoiding it and have been extremely busy with irl stuff XD

[@Lily_Orchard]

"Actively avoiding it" Weird behavior

[@ashleylightheart126]

@@Lily_Orchard Well, actively avoiding spoilers, I'm weird and I like to honor original release schedules :3 I also have not watched the video cause I glimpsed the end for a moment there, sorry!

[@DingDongDozo]

NEW LILY VID!!!

[@colemanbrenner6555]

Yeah I think the pacing and waffling around did For the Future dirty. They could have made it faster and maybe put some scenes from the end credits in the episode

[@mbcodes18]

Wow, putting my least favorite episode in the show as "best" and hating on hunter.

[@Lily_Orchard]

Get better taste

[@sharkboss1]

i genuinely did not know the episode was leaked early. Guess I'm not as online as I thought.

[@twonkwonk]

I really love your videos and how you construct them

[@magala9287]

I like your brutal honesty.

[@XainRussell]

I’ll be honest, I haven’t fully watched any episodes from the start of season 2B. At first it was because I just didn’t get around to it, but as time has gone on I’ve heard more and more that just made me go “oh, that’s unfortunate”: Hunter being forced into other characters episodes, the overarching story becoming “this year’s adventure fantasy,” and Luz slowly regressing as a character. This video has sort of solidified the conclusion I reached recently that I didn’t just put the show on the shelf with an intention to come back to it, I just flat out lost interest. Damn shame, it had such a strong start and I loved Amity and Luz’s relationship.

[@beeziebubs2756]

It absolutely frustrates me that neither Gus or Willow were allowed to have their respective character arcs without Hunter somehow being crowbarred in or stealing it altogether. In any other (good) story, Hunter wouldn’t have been the person jumping out of the overgrowth to hug and comfort Willow; it would have been her long time best friend, biggest supporter, and the most positive influence on her life. If not Gus, why not Luz? It just doesn’t make sense for Hunter to be the one to do that unless one of the writers either wanted to shoehorn their favorite ship in and/or to make Willow’s break down actually about Hunter’s growth. And I know I shouldn’t be surprised that a Cishet white boy’s importance was hyper inflated over the 2 POC characters, especially when this wasn’t the first time it happened, but… it doesn’t make it any less disappointing.

[@sniffytheloveablecookie8935]

Coming back a year later go through the comments and laugh at all the weird spoiler free people losing their minds in the comments

[@jakeb6043]

I remember watching your Glass of Water episodes on MLP like 7 years ago! Glad you’re doing well, I’m sorry about the disease.

[@santawithaflamethrower2758]

I ligitimatly wish they had stayed with vanitas golden gaurd cause that was funny to watch as opposed to watching the bland white boy moping for 5 hours before being handed a palisman, a main character slot, too many fucking episodes, and a girlfriend he has less chemistry with than Luz did with her potion ingredients

[@Zeverz]

You made the point that the show became a way when I feels like they pushed season 2 B faster and faster as this was around the time that Disney canceled the show. Could be wrong but It feels as if they where trying to get the story ready to end.

[@Lily_Orchard]

Pushing faster and faster doesn't go with what's actually happening, where they are padding the show more and more as if they were given too much time instead of too little.

[@goldenhorse4823]

@@Lily_Orchard exactly. S2A pushed the story farther and still made room for charachters to be charachters.

[@cassandraspoelhof3752]

I don’t agree with you on a lot of the bland/worst episodes but I guess I can understand the gripes you have. Honestly there isn’t a single episode of The Owl House I myself don’t like with the exception of Reaching Out because OMG THAT EPISODE WAS SO DEVASTATING! Made even more devastating that it’s based on the creator’s real life experience of losing her own dad when she was just 11. POOR DANA!😭

[@Goldenevil91]

When comes to Hunter I kinda see wasted potential. There isn't done enough with him to justify him being included in the show as much as he is. If I had say about him I would add to the show 'theme' about relationships kids have with their parents - since we have already some of that with Luz, Eda and Lillith, Amity as well as her siblings. Show had baseline to talk how some of those child-parent relationships are worth fighting for despite issues present in relationship. Or how some just need some tweaks to get rid of more toxic/unhealthy aspects of relationship. Or that regardless of how you much love you may have for them some people are just too toxic/abusive to be in your life (either to you or/and to your loved ones). Heck you can so easily add found family over blood and lessons about forgiveness and moving on. About not letting negative feelings poison you but lead you to better yourself and fix/make up for past mistakes - especially with somebody like Hunter... IF show had went all in on issues he was through and not just...grind angst of them and not do anything worthwhile with this character. Sadly, Hunter (as this very video points out) doesn't bring anything new or strong or well defined to the table. He's just another angsty boy with half-assed 'redemption' and very thin sob-backstory. Say what you want about Sasha from Amphibia, at least there was much more to her character in her show, than there is to Hunter in the Owl house.

[@oneplusoneistwo57]

could you have not shown the spoiler from season 3 ep 2 because i have not watched the leak and now i just got luzs palisman spoiled :(((((((((((((( im just sad now

[@wheelchairsymbol6874]

For The Future is the Worst episode and it isnt even close

[@gabrieloviedocasanas4977]

The fact that you trash-talked about some of my favorite episodes hurts but... I can actually see and understand your points and reasoning, And worst of all I can't help but actually agree with them. Especially the points about Hunter and his actual relevance to the overall plot. You truly shifted my perspective regarding the importance of episodes like "Witches Before Wizards" And "Throyht The Looking Glass Ruins" While pointing out the cheap build-up that was "Hollow Mind" and the lack of actual surprise. They could have used the episode to reveal more about Belos's relationship with Caleb, how he was probably responsible for the extinction of the basilisk to create the sigils(and eliminate another threat to his rule), and the creation of his Empire. [SPOILERS FOR "FOR THE FUTURE DOWN HERE] Personally, is the most boring episode of the entire show because of the main plot being literally put on hold because of... Bosha? Seriously?! I wish they had used "Thanks to Them" to give each character the final development they needed before going back to the Demon Realm for the actual final battle. Instead of wasting both episodes with so much filter that doesn't progress the characters (The whole time dedicated to them trying to solve the Puzzle to find the Titan blood felt like a waste,) But, the scenes of Luz with Camila were some of the best interactions in the show Call me whatever you want, maybe I deserve it but please respect my perspective of things.

[@Lily_Orchard]

Why does criticism of episodes hurt? You didn't make them

[@forestgrump4723]

I actually haven’t seen the new one I am waiting for the official release so thank you for not actually saying what her palisman is I appreciate it.

[@emilee7997]

I feel like King being a titan was important to establish so that later he could set the collector free.

[@Lily_Orchard]

Dana could think up whatever macguffin she wanted for that

[@Lily_Orchard]

@@ThatBish380 The show's lore is "One day a white guy landed here and started doing a genocide." Go outside

[@cosmic_riff]

Luz’s palisman feels like a cop out Like “It’s a shapeshifter so ALL the headcanons are canon!”

[@duskknight1815]

I agree with all the blandest choices apart from for the future I haven't watched it and skiped that section I'll edit this when it comes out

[@Zerathenezot]

4:28 im not sure if she calls lillith a witch or bitch and honestly I'm ok with both.

[@HotNothin]

I have never watched an episode of this show (for some reason I should really get to that) but I have now watched Lily talk about it for 12 minutes and eventually am going to listen to her talk about it for an hour or more. Peeps, is there something wrong with me?

[@RatBagel]

Don’t trust her opinions if you haven’t seen the show yourself btw. She’s waving around opinions like they’re facts. I’m not trying to be malicious towards her, but she also misinterpreted a lot of the messages in this show.

[@leonardomartino8431]

"Recently I've taken a policy of not including season finales" **Proceed to include "Young blood, Old souls" which is a season finale**

[@Lily_Orchard]

I was supposed to say Series Finale

[@leonardomartino8431]

@@Lily_Orchard Eh, fair enough

[@duskknight1815]

No lilly I haven't. I haven't watched it

[@enigma2422]

For Hunter's character, I think it would have worked better if instead of a clone, he turned out to be Eda's son. Okay, hear me out, we know that Eda met king 8 years ago, her mom only comes over once a year, and Eda has joked about having dated around in season 1, so it would totally be possible for her to have had a kid in that time. Then, it would make sense for Hunter to have a lack of magic, having inherited some of Eda's curse just without the transformation part. It could also be the reason he gets into the emporer's coven, because without magic, he could be the closest thing to a human to Belos. It would be interesting for Eda's character, because unlike all her other relationships, this wouldn't get fixed in one episode and possibly give lasting consequences for the way she chose to live in the past.

[@kmmk5022]

So who would the father of Hunter be?

[@justinguidroz9659]

Did you not watch the season 2 finale? King being a Titan gave him the ability to release the Collector. This in turn causes the entirety of season 3. King being a Titan was instrumental in the story. PS: Blame Disney shortening the show for season 2B and season 3, not Dana.

[@alejandrovargas6908]

Omg someone else who does not like Once Upon A Swap, it was so unenjoyably boring from start to finish

[@Armaggedon185]

Ironically, this is the show that got me to go from ignoring the angsty white boys to hating them, mostly because this is the show that was good enough that I was able to see clearly the drop in quality wherever he got involved.

[@flintfeatherr]

I actually haven’t seen the new episode yet cause I don’t engage with the fandom at all cause I don’t want to touch that shit with a ten foot pole. I didn’t even know it was leaked lol

[@tvftw1]

I swear, I've been *trying* to find For the Future since it leaked, with the caveat that I only want to watch the full thing, not a bunch of random 2 minute clips, it is not as widespread as I was led to believe

[@Lily_Orchard]

Kimcartoon and The Owl Club. The places they always are

[@tvftw1]

@@Lily_Orchard Much appreciated, I'll be back in 50 minutes to watch that last Blandest entry

[@tvftw1]

@@ThatBish380 I'm not paying for subscription services anyway so the creators aren't losing anything they would ever get from me, and it doesn't impact anyone else when I choose to consume content. If I was gonna pirate it anyway when it officially released, why wait?

[@apnosaurus]

As a figure skater that joke made me chuckle.

[@SoulQueenoD]

I haven't watched it because I realized I genuinely don't care about this show anymore. It has not sparked joy since season 2A.

[@ImoTubeReal]

I think the worst episode is in Season 2 Ep. 12: Elsewhere and Elsewhen. Because it has Time Travel and this thing is rarely done well. Also, putting an impulsive character like Luz in a Time travel is a mistake.

[@mosesmm5473]

As someone who has NOT watched Owl House past the first episode because I got lazy, I shall fall on your judgement for best, worst and meh episodes

[@jimmyoakmeister]

Lily, blink twice if Yahzee Croshaw is holding you at gunpoint

[@goldenhorse4823]

Lilly and Yathzee would get along well

[@Raerofficial]

Wow, these are some… EXTREMELY strong takes….

[@AviciPerry]

I don’t even know where you guys watched it my usual sources were empty

[@Lily_Orchard]

Kimcartoon

[@AviciPerry]

@@Lily_Orchard i only see thanks to them on it 🥲 must be some sort of regional block cus i’m based in italy

[@vernyulkisasszony4708]

@@AviciPerry Try The Owl Club

[@stephmaszera3610]

i’m glad someone else agrees with me on for the future. that episode was so boring, so slow, and deserves to be in the bland category. nothing remotely important even happened, and 45 minutes of screen time was wasted of characters not being able to talk about their feelings. i don’t know how a series finale could have an episode be so boring, and now i’m scared to see what was packed into the final episode

[@gizoginjr]

Pretty sure actual research has found that being spoiled about events in a work of fiction actually makes us enjoy that thing more, not less. So spoilers are actively good for you.

[@Lily_Orchard]

Spoiler Culture treats media not like art, but an adrenaline high. To say Fandom never appreciates the art it obsesses over is an understatement.

[@kormoranvogel1714]

Hey, this is going to diverge from this particular video. I just want to leave a comment on your chanel as a hole. I just found your chanel a few days ago and have watched way to many of your videos in that time. I still think many of them, especially the older ones, have a an overly agressive and vigilant tone. This might be partly because the youtube algorithm seemed to push me in the drama direction when selecting what content to show me. It is really strange how most videos i get recomendet are from 5 years ago when i actually try to favor your mlre recent videos. Maybe that's just me or maybe youtube is being weird. Besides that, your videos have managed to seriously make me rethink my previously pacifist and democratic morals. Thank you for making me think:) (By chalanging democratic goals, i mean, that some moral believes are so important to me, that i don't value the oppinions of people, who oppose me. For example: killing a fashist dictator is not a thing you need a vote to decide on. For more mundane issues, democracy can still be usefull.)

[@Persphone_cabin]

Lily, I don’t think you’ve ever covered a DreamWorks movie, but please please PRETTY PLEASE cover Puss in boots 2 it covers anxiety really well and has three different villains but they’re all execute. It’s so great and just I love this new movie everybody saying it’s praises but I want to hear your take on it.

[@Lily_Orchard]

I covered Prince of Egypt a few years ago. But I'm not really in a hurry to find new things to cover honestly. Working on a big video and spinning my wheels until it's done.

[@carmellosantiago2555]

I have not seen it. Be back later.

[@michealpineapple6920]

Yknow I really like the owl house and I do somewhat like hunter but dang I really can’t say anything you said was wrong

[@yikes2872]

I agree with so much of what you said, like for Willow I really really wanted her to be expanded on but because she wasn't I found a bit bland and boring, and held onto the little pieces we got from her. The only thing that gives me solace is that she is a fat character who is being shown in a romantic light in kids TV, because as a fat person, its really nice to see that, and not just a weird joke. For Hunter I really, really, really, wish he was a lot like when he first appeared, because I love the snarky bitches that we root to hate, like Heather from Total Drama, where he pops up from time to time showing how fucking annoying he is and how much ego you want to see crushed, instead of taking too much time from the narrative. Like I he's fine how he is now, but I defiantly wish he wasn't, as you said, pushed into so many narratives that don't need him as the main character. Not my favorite, that role is for Luz, (with 2nd going to Gus)

[@mikandstuff3119]

Wasn’t the point of hollow mind to reveal alll of those details to the main characters so it could move the story forward?

[@Lily_Orchard]

This wouldn't be a problem if the show wasn't revealing things to the audience for the sake of shocking cliffhangers. If you tell a story organically, you don't need a waffling catch-up episode.

[@mikandstuff3119]

@@Lily_Orchard perhaps you’re right, thank you for making it more clear to me!

[@mikandstuff3119]

@@Lily_Orchardalso another quick question, are you sure that king being a titan has no value at all? Because i think it effects his character arc deeply? In S2, king was all about discovering his identity and father, so him discovering that he’s a titan is important? Orrrr is it not?

[@dmlppspringtraplover]

I actually haven't seen it lol I've been avoiding spoilers for awhile lol

[@aBeerFromHere7994]

9:43 Hey, that episode isn't officially out yet (starts crying because of spoilers) PS: I haven't seen it

[@Lily_Orchard]

Oh suck it up, spoilers aren't the end of the world

[@bendingtwilight]

@@Lily_Orchard except when the end of the world is the spoiler

[@Aceofknowledge101]

Deutragonsits are not secondary characters

[@theidiotics2629]

I thought hollow mind was a great episode since there was a lot of information we didn't know about. The portraits showing philips past and how he became emperor belos. Did you not like how they showed his past?

[@metroidnerd9001]

I think that part of the episode is cool if you're interested in that kind of stuff, but it doesn't actually contribute to the plot in and of itself. Any parts of it that are plot important get revealed later, so seeing it there just lets you figure some stuff out earlier and know a little bit more of the details.

[@lbean9828]

Luz's downward spiral and everything about Hunter sounds like the kind of emo shit I would write when I was a teen. I mean, you can enjoy that kind of stuff, but don't ruin your good show over it! Go write a fanfic or something. God, I feel old.

[@RatBagel]

Do you think having a mental breakdown is emo? If that’s not what you were trying to say, please let me know, but that’s what it seemed like.

[@lbean9828]

@@RatBagel Having a mental breakdown isn't emo, the way the show is handling Luz's is what's emo, sorry for the confusion :)

[@bluestarsaberstarwarsfan3838]

I have seen clips of the latest episode

[@nazathelivingcorpse]

i disagree a lot with this list, but i think what upset me the most is that you watched the leak of for the future and put it on the list. not cool.

[@WinterFloof]

One thing I don't hear a lot of people talk about is how Hunter and Starlight Glimmer are similar in the sense that they get stapled onto other characters and plotlines people like in the hopes that you'll grow to like him too. Feels a little bit self-indulgent.

[@Lemonade-Tree]

I don’t think you like Hunter very much… lol

[@-LiterallyEverything-]

wahhhhhhhh

[@Paul-yr9vk]

You just seriously watched for the future that was leaked ago? Congrats for spoiling it for everyone who's waiting for it to be released on its release date.

[@Lily_Orchard]

Thank you! I work very hard to bring insignificant hardship to you

[@Paul-yr9vk]

@@Lily_Orchard Sadistic much? And your welcome by the way

[@Lily_Orchard]

@@Paul-yr9vk Yes I am sadistic! For my next trick I will turn your thermostat down one degree!

[@frgtnchl1349]

@@Paul-yr9vk “Sadistic” Go touch grass

[@milescaldwell6889]

Wait what there a new episode wtf have I been missing

[@QMQ-WyW]

Hunter is pointless and I'm furnished that the show's writers are shipping him with Willow, Gus is a way better match!

[@Nightman221k]

You’re “furnished?” Lol!

[@RatBagel]

Gus is 12 and hunter is 16? Just saying.

[@oddguy4419]

How dare you. Yeah that's it. Just wanted to say something. Sorry 😐

[@rawksolid5029]

I agree the pacing of season 2 is way down. Episodes in season 1 felt fast paced and full of content, really only taking slow moments for important things like a emotional scene. If there any hints or Easter eggs for later episodes they aren't really lingered on. Season 2 took 3 episodes to do what season 1 did in half an episode. On the subject of Hunter, he should have stayed a bad guy or learned of the previous Golden Guard's fate and identity the same episode it was brought up he was the newest replacement. Either way, he got way too much screen-time to hint at changing, taking focus from everyone else. I don't hate the kid but he keeps standing infront of the TV when I'm trying to watch.

[@kevina.2129]

I want to be mad at some of your criticisms but every time I saw Yzma my inner child giggled with so much glee I forgot what I was thinking about. Bravo. Let's see how many times you can use that clip until I'm sick of it. (Ps. I probably won't cus that movie is a genuine delight)

[@Lily_Orchard]

Getting mad at criticism of something you didn't make is irrational

[@kevina.2129]

Perhaps I should have chosen a different word as I used “mad” as just an exaggeration for humor. I like Hunter’s character, but not to the point I’d speak up against any disagreements, let a lone rage about it.

[@carasclownerycorner6455]

@@PhantomPhera I agree with you

[@MrGabeanator]

Calling my favorite lumity episode one of the worst shame on you

[@Lily_Orchard]

Grow up