Top 5 Changes Kislev Needs, Campaign Issues - Total War: Warhammer 3 Immortal Empires

[@garryame4008]

Some changes I want em to do to make 3 Kislev campaigns more fun: - Add a magical forest to Kislev, so that Ostankya can more easily return to Kislev. - For Kostaltyn to be able to recruit patriarchs from the court mechanic instead of witches. - For Boris to get the Markus Wulfhart supplies mechanic as an incentive or alternative to the supporter race

[@sebastiangibson9671]

the thing is it locks off ice witches to kostatyan and not having a spell casting lord is a debuff not a buff so if so then make it so he gets worse ice whitches than katyrin rather than none

[@iopohable]

regular campaign: click button, recruit hero/lord kislev: clock button to start a process to recruit a hero/lord; the process takes 10 turns. and the hero/lord might be crap, but you gotta pay for them anyway.

[@nunuarthas8680]

The whole Kislev gameplay has the "making mechanics for mechanics' sake" vibe.

[@jasonquigley2633]

I think some of your criticisms are unfair, though I agree the core "unique mechanics" are wanting. However, I disagree with some of the following criticisms: 1. Saying Kislev is a boring campaign isn't correct. As you later stated, you start in a thunderdome, which makes it quite a challenging start, but a start you can deal with. This makes it quite enjoyable. 2. Katarin is not a bad legendary lord, and better then any generic lords that Kislev has access to. She has 3 strong mounts, one of which is unique. She buffs ice guards, a great unit. And she's a good caster for a lore of magic that complements Kislev's playstyle. Specifically, ice sheet is excellent, as it applies slow over a large area, and Kislev has access to multiple sources of slow which makes it easy for a Katarina stack to bring an advancing army nearly to a halt. Finally heart of winter is very effective. It doesn't do friendly fire and over casted it deletes units. 2 well timed casts of heart of winter can win a battle, and it's much easier to position for maximum damage as it doesn't hit friendlies. 3. Kislev building economy is poor, but something that isn't shown is that Kislev gets significantly more battle gold then equivalent order factions. This means if you avoid building past t1 in minor settlements in the early game, money is rarely a problem.

[@schneiderpants23]

Agree with all your points. Katarin’s not even close to boring. For whatever it’s worth, Legend of Total War says it’s one of his favorite campaigns because of the challenge from all sides.

[@BlainFlorist]

I would do a Kislev campaign tomorrow for fun

[@snap4936]

Do it

[@kapixniecapix3869]

1) *Theme* All lords should have his/hers mechanic, lord hero and units. No more mechs reskin. 2) *Ostanky as a Subfaction* All shadow of change monsters should be locked for others lords untill confed. (For AI maybe even always locked) Some of them accesable only when playing as her (like now) I dont know why this unit blockade work one way, 3) *More usage for supporters in mid-endgame* 4) *complete rework of boris* He need some wasteland cleaning mechanic, provinces and economy buffing maybe for the price od supporters because he desnt go to much for a race anyway 5) *ice court rework* less RNG more control. 6) *minor tweaks and balancing* and probably something else. *For the tzeench though* They need to fix changling and make him the most overpowerd lord in the game. He cant loose anyway and is afk as an AI so make it fun. Hes scheme rewords must be meanigfull, you will burn world from back seat Need to ensure that AI will not mitigate our little trolling.

[@parttimehero8640]

I use mods to add woodcreator to ostankja

[@paulmualdeave5063]

In better Kislev news, someone made an Ataman mod for Cathay lol

[@mikemikeson9173]

Tier 3 for hellpit would be insane imagine an army of tier 3 skaven units steamrolling the map on turn 5

[@Costin_Gaming]

Wouldn't that be something however? If Throt was an actual threat to Kislev as opposed to an annoyance.

[@sebastiangibson9671]

it would gurentee kislev dies always now unless you rush to save them

[@2enrol]

Agree with the Ice Witch training problem. The RNG needs to be taken out. Put half the traits as options in the first slot, and the other half in the second slot, then increase capacity for Ice Maidens by one once each training set finishes. Don't agree with the trading settlement trick. It's like the infinite blood kiss exploit for Vlad. You can do it, but then have horrible diplomacy for the next 100 turns (gifts given to "enemy": -400) What I would like would be a use for supporters after the race and short campaign victory. Something life Franz where you can spend supporters for population surplus, instant recruiting, adding a climate type as green (or changing a climate type to frozen), or renewing campaign movement (each on a cooldown). Supporters need mid to endgame relevance. MOST OF ALL, Boris needs a campaign mechanic. He doesn't have bonuses or quest rewards for supporters like Kat and Kost, and his only gimmic is that his starting region is not as bad as it could be (while most other lords start in green territory all around). Let him spend supporters to hire super units like Eltharion, and eliminate Chaos climate from an owned region, and make his settlement buildings better (similar to Yuan Bo) to balance the time it takes to get the 3 key Kislev cities. (Just some ideas.)

[@kapixniecapix3869]

All 3 factions need a mechanic. Kostaltyn should get even more, some cultist thamed units and lord. Ursun Preacher lord Idk about lore. Basicaly what you need is thame: lord, hero, units and mechanic for a lord to consider it complete. Now think about this game and how many doesnt have something from that short basic list like 60%-70%?

[@dagewastaken7236]

My real problem with Kislev is they have a lot crap buildings. Military buildings should function as something else.

[@kasus123]

I believe the world map should have been way bigger but given how it is already unoptimized as f*ck we get a kindergarden around empire with all the weird kids. Hopefully some chaos factions will get relocated to ind/cathay in the future.

[@Izadirad1995]

I want those prequel units dang it

[@lucajustluca8257]

>Shit economic buildings >Overpriced units >Bullshit faction mechanics >Hard starting position >Useless AI allies Yeah kislev is not for the faint of heart

[@paulmualdeave5063]

I tried the Queen a week ago, declared war on a knorne faction and gave up when four or five full armies showed up. Their troops were vastly superior to mine within 20-30 turns.

[@nelsonwalker1473]

I just bought this game. And I have been exclusively Kislev, I really don’t know how to progress besides chasing my neighbors and zerging throgg and hellpit with Kost till I hit a dead end with the ice court. All the guides seem to be outdated but I like how range and melee independent they are. Any help?

[@parttimehero8640]

I was so disappointed with SoC, ostankya needs more flavour. Kislev and Cathay have so much potential. Maybe add a trait giving Katharine and her Ice Witch Lord channel magic stance a reduce enemy movement reduction like 20 in the regio and 5 in adjacent regions. And a skill to improve it to 50 and 10.

[@sprintstothebathroomdaily2429]

im not a durr durr power creep complainer, its a single player game it mostly doesnt matter. But the big issue for kislev is you encounter heavy armor before you have consistent armor piercing and units that are comparable. Chaos warriors are basically better and more cost effective than most of what you can get, and the other empire AI gets nuked so you essentially need to cheese.

[@islayreptilianhybrids8947]

lizardmen need a update before any other faction

[@iopohable]

costin is a david icke fan and is afraid of lizards

[@kewlkid4845]

bretonia WOULD LIKE TO KNOW YOUR LOCATION

[@Jodchosen]

Are we forgetting norsca for any other reason

[@parttimehero8640]

Well Norsca is up there too Closely followed by the Vampire Coast

[@dagewastaken7236]

BOK

[@lolcatjunior]

What if all Kislev cities can go to 5th tier?