TOP 5 Mistakes We Know but we keep repeating in Racing Games

Have you ever wondered why we keep making these mistakes? I made this TOP 5 to re-discover them. Enjoy!
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[@Spherz]

“Divebombing” “Respecting Personal Space” Forza Horizon players: _ive never met this man in my life_

[@DavidMcIntosh9]

As a forza horizon player this is true

[@ferr4132]

Yep can confirm

[@DavidSOSullivan]

Yup its true, a player litterlly hit me off the road so he could drive through a field to shorten his distance 😑

[@joshuaw_270]

Spherz and the 10 year old on gt

[@Unboundiing]

JoshuaW_2 your giving me ptsd of when I had a ps3

[@КрисВерхотурова-ж1б]

Personal space in racing: *Exists* Me, who learned driving from Flatout, Destruction derby and Carmageddon: *HOW CUTE*

[@ivanroman8914]

More like: "It's free real estate"

[@markcrash0181]

Don't forget Burnout 3: Takedown

[@ivanroman8914]

@@friun.6824 yup, you're right

[@acee12]

Миша Верхотуров is that a kaguya reference???

[@КрисВерхотурова-ж1б]

@@acee12 not really.... If it is, then I didn't know about it xD

[@crane._.]

I can say, I always avoid such mistakes But my opponents are always ready to end my whole career

[@SheetFiber]

this one I can relate 😂

[@Logosfollower]

Hahaha so true most of my mistakes happen because I anticipate getting a punt

[@FriendlyCroock]

Well that's because non of those "realistic racing" games have "realistic" race regulations. Except maybe project cars? Or the f1 games? I don't know

[@Kuttispielt]

FriendlyCrooc It is hard tho to make a Computer make decions where even humans struggle with

[@michelveraliot]

Ha ha same for me

[@thelizardpalace4597]

I felt the honorable mention of breaking too late being inspired by me hahahah

[@crazyeyedme4685]

Lol. Did you ever play the original gran turismo? There was no damage to the cars. When i was young and played it i can remember just blasting straight into a corner full speed, hitting the wall at 180 mph and just kind bouncing off it until i was back to a straight stretch. Lol...its so fucking funny to see.

[@cautixon]

Brake late, brake hard. *Hit the wall.*

[@mikehawk287]

@lldkll if you brake late you'll have to slow down below the minimum speed for that corner, that happens to me a lot, for example the Aremberg corner in Nürburgring, normally you are driving around 200-240km/h, once you approach it, you have to brake until you reach 100km/h, the minimum speed for most production cars in that corner. But, if you brake late, you'll have to keep braking untill you slow down around 60km/h, or else you'll get off track, while other racers come out of the corner at 100 km/h and they gain speed faster. That's why braking late is bad. If you brake late and everything seems cool, that doesn't mean you are braking late, that either means the other cars are bots designed to brake early so that you can overtake them, or are new players who just brake early. So you aren't braking late, you are braking just in time. So next time try braking late while driving behind a pro who also happened to brake "late" or maybe try braking late while driving alone in time trial.

[@raphilos]

Me: "ok, I'll follow my racing line and drive efficiently" Also me: *see a 180 degree corner* "IT'S DRIFT TIME"

[@TuanLe-sv4fc]

Same lol !!

[@primeradagon1306]

*why do i hear eurobeat music?*

[@bruce_pain]

Yep, but sometimes it makes you faster. I gain 0.5 - 1 second on hairpin at Rouen Les Essarts in project cars 2

[@pandaeatsramen273]

@@bruce_pain drifting the stage route X it's "mission passed respect +"

[@Xerroxify]

I always try to do 4 wheel drift with audi v8 quattro in bathurst because those Sierras are monsters on straights.

[@purplex360]

Before watching video: *OVERTAKE IS OVERTAKE* After watching video: "Maybe I am a monster."

[@M4V3R1CK_13]

well... Before watching video: OVERTAKE IS OVERTAKE After watching video: "Maybe I am a monster." After reflecting a bit: NAH, AN OVERTAKE STILLS AN OVERTAKE. McRae already said "IF IN DOUBT, FLAT OUT."

[@user-Arthxeking777]

maybe you are

[@purplex360]

Well in the racing game I play the only non ghost cars are just bots so no real harm done

[@user-Arthxeking777]

@@purplex360 okay fair enough, but imo fuck the bots lmao

[@purplex360]

@@user-Arthxeking777 yeah but I want to keep my car undamaged :/ those bots keep getting in the way tho (too slow in the corners but very fast on the straights

[@pressstart1490]

"Not respecting Personal space" Kevin Magnussen: What? That is a Joke...

[@wntw7935]

ALL THE TIME YOU HAVE TO LEAVE A SPACE

[@stefanodelpistoia9711]

Press Start Alonso: “ALL THE TIME YOU HAVE TO LEAVE THE SPACE!!!!!!! OK!?!?!?!??!”

[@ethan5495]

WNTW he five seconds, its a yoke, a YOKE

[@treerexaudi]

x'D

[@horstgunther9521]

ethan t -where is Palmer? -Palmer has retired -KARMA

[@r1l426]

Me: i'm braking too late Nobody: Not even a single rally driver: Me: handbrake turn time

[@yoshuaposhua25]

Horizon players be like

[@DanielSilva-to8fo]

To be fair, the #1 mistake is kind of a good one to make, even the F1 drivers, who are known to be really skilled and technical, aren't afraid to try and explore the limits of their cars on any circuit they race, even if that means going to the grass sometimes. But hey, there's a reason why practice sesions exists, so that you can almost freely drive around and make any mistake before the race, and then have the perfect race without errors. PD: i said "almost" earlier because in real life, trying to go way over your own, or your car limits, not only will cause an accident, but also put your life and others as well in danger, so try to keep the reckless driving in just sim-racing xD

[@sainesanalsa3324]

This is quite correct and especially in kart racing you push out every corner until you take it too fast. Then you know what exactly is your karts (or cars) limit. Bad idea during race of course

[@aisgar1]

Me: I think is time to sleep ViperConcept: I don't think you will

[@quisper7598]

Its morning here

[@VerwirrteMiauKatze]

Same.

[@Bradipus77]

10:23 But Colin Mcrae said "if in doubt, flat out"

[@viperconcept]

In fact Colin Mcrae was popular for his victories, but also *for damaging a lot his cars.*

[@AdrianFerrari]

@@viperconcept and most of Colin McRae DLC from Dirt Rally 2.0 is about make something that didn't happen.

[@CostanTheOne]

Legit me in dirt rally

[@paxhumana2015]

@@viperconcept , and yet who else is actually known in rally racing?

[@JlGGLYPUFF]

ah yes,the glorios Colin Mcrash.

[@scherdieny]

respecting other drivers space is something 90% of people on project cars 2 lobbies never heard about.

[@warrakrys]

Bruh thats every game u can race in online Its literally called dirty driving

[@scherdieny]

@@warrakrys I know... Just wish devs put more thought on how to effectively match players based on their SR and DR. I have A rating on pcars (2nd highest safety rating) and the game still gives me 95% of the time U rated lobbies to choose from (lowest possible).

[@CostanTheOne]

Do you by any chance play on console maybe xbox

[@scherdieny]

@@CostanTheOne yes I do play on xbox

[@ivonebotelho8836]

7:50 *cries in f1* ps.: keep the quality up viper!

[@archpradubsuk329]

*cries in​ Ricciardo

[@williamsuharja29]

*most forza player

[@archpradubsuk329]

@ you​ reply like​ a​ torpedo

[@rannygamer51]

Verstapen

[@kejdak]

Me: Respects ViperConcept's tips My opponents in any racing game: Imma end this mans whole career

[@giuliofracurti]

Fernando: ALL THE TIME YOU HAVE TO LEAVE A SPACE

[@KevinAbillGaming]

OK?! UNDERSTOOD?

[@elitef40]

Although this video is extremely useful, Forza's multiplayer will always be the opposite. It's a mess

[@DavidMcIntosh9]

You damn right

[@exotic_sounds]

thats why im gald, i have no internet connection at home

[@JahoSelamaj]

At least its fun

[@richardendresz161]

Not respecting. The personal space of opponents Me: * gives space to prevent crashes * Opponent: * shoves me off the road because he doesn’t want to break * Me: ;-;

[@kubhak]

God damn monza

[@yarienicitte6231]

Or my opponent doesn't slow down a bit when im in outside corner and hit me in the wall, if course, he continue after that^^

[@richardhobbs7360]

Ya RienIcitte do what I do if they’re turning in brake a bit more but leave your nose in They’ll hit the noes and now you have a car in the other direction but thankfully behind you

[@Felipe_Motociclista]

Sad reactions only ):

[@user-Arthxeking777]

retweet my dude

[@magnussencube]

"Divebombing is a very disrespectful act on your opponents" F1 2020 players: I've never met this man in my life

[@fujineetomori]

"It's better to lose a position than risking accidents." *Shingo will remember that.*

[@zahirbiban9149]

When the other car is uncatchable

[@sh1bes]

“Personal space” Wangan players: *yeah very funny*

[@gnutscha]

classic one for me: Going into the Race with the amount of fuel i would need for 3 qualifying laps :D

[@rolandtiiroja]

jep when you understand that 15L isnt always enought for a 10 min race in raceroom. have been stranded many times, but im also noob

[@jhh631]

1 mistake you should of added, using too low or too high gears at corners meaning when you turn either the turn rate is poor (too high gear) so you crash into the barrier or go off track or you become unstable (too low gear) and spin out and cause an accident

[@rolandtiiroja]

The first rule of sim racing is: You do not brake too late. The second rule of sim racing is: You do not brake too late.

[@beterbarker]

Remember to keep your cars 6 feet apart during quarantine

[@oceanerondeau2133]

During Car-antine 👌🏻😂

[@warriorsofironhide7324]

During CARID - 19 😂😂

[@amyodov]

Oh, this video so needs the navigable chapters. You can copy and paste them to the video description, it will make them browseable in the KZbin UI (if you don't know about this KZbin feature yet). But even if you don’t, here are them for someone who would be searching for them: 00:00 Special thanks to Patreon supporters 00:21 Everyone makes mistakes, here are top 5 mistakes in racing games 00:59 #5 - pit-lines 02:24 #4 - personal space 04:09 #3 - car setup 06:12 #2 - braking after slipstream 07:49 Honorable mentions #1 - divebombing 09:41 Honorable mentions #2 - late braking 10:29 #1 - cutting corners 10:55 Why do we cut corners? Cutting on the outside 11:38 Why do we cut corners? Cutting on the inside 12:24 Learn from the mistakes

[@crazyeyedme4685]

If only all sim driver's had as much sportsmanship as you viperconcept.

[@sirflaps7619]

7:49 normal players: avoid crashes at all cost Frorza and wreckvest players: Haha car go kaboom

[@danielaguilera0594]

And burnout players

[@guyguylazy]

@@danielaguilera0594 lol that is required in that game

[@tiagobelo4965]

Divebombing is ok if you know what you are doing and dont hit anyone, its just passing someone by braking later

[@gk-aplazt8676]

Always the No.1 for me. >.< I’m too aggressive that I constantly do that.

[@genista9910]

F. Some advice, don't go all out, just smoothen it out a bit. If you're still experiencing trouble, I advise you to turn on racing lines.

[@Logosfollower]

Miata-Kun I had that problem as well and I did just that and now I’m a lot faster, I almost can’t believe how much faster I am by braking early and focusing on corner exits

[@RockportGM]

I always forget to brake early when I'm in the slipstream, thanks viper. All i know i learned from you. Hugs from Brazil

[@artigosworld]

"respect the personal space of the other drivers" *laughs in Daytona USA

[@Chasta1n42]

The opening logo gives me joy Thank you Viperconcept

[@jgcarlover_9273]

I still do all of those mistakes. I´ve played Gran Turismo since the first one, but never thought about this, and with your videos I am learning a lot and making videos on youtube (brazilian portuguese) to watch my evolution over the time. Thank you so much for the videos you have been making!!! sorry my poor english

[@pandaeatsramen273]

If someone will ever make a top of the mistakes i keep do after 10 years of racing games, it should be a top 500

[@shepherd_aries]

Seeing the whole video made me learn a a lot in racing games, thank you viper

[@alessandroverri8830]

Man, I don't literally know your face but believe me it's for 60 days that I'm watching your videos as the Bible, it's years that I watch lot of cars or videogames channel but no one excite me as yours with your passion and your hard work, I wish you all the best and believe me when I say that it's like you're my best friend since I'm born😂❤️

[@aravindkannoly2909]

8:21 huh, Forza has different graphics than I remember

[@stpbasss3773]

Lmao, let's see who gets this😂

[@arraurrul]

Thanks!! I will try these this weekend on my lovely ps2 sim games!!

[@yeah4710]

Viper: remember to respect personal space :) Me who grew up watching 1970s-1990s nascar: nah lol

[@Official_MikeyT]

7:52 on the contrary, dive bombing and slamming the door on your opponent is completely fine as long as you don't rear-end, t-bone, or in any way punt them off the track. Some contact is acceptable especially in touring cars, prototypes, GTs, and stock cars.

[@ahmedal-enezi5720]

Thanks for the educations Viperconcept, I appreicated. To be honest, all youtubers like SuperGT, JSRDevon, Kie25 and others should learn from these mistakes.

[@ShinyArjunSingh]

wow man, made my life... nice one, subscribed...keep'em comin...

[@DavidGarcia-oi5nt]

I miss the techno intro music you had before, but I got say that it is very nice to see other people enjoying AMS2, most definitely worth buying the game and supporting developers which give us these great racing games.

[@midnightdeluxegaming6582]

*_Top 5 Mistakes Everyone Keep Repeating in Racing Games_* *_5._* Not respecting the "Pit-Line" while exiting from the Pits. *_4._* Not respecting the personal space of the opponents. *_3._* Forgetting to setup the car before the race. *_2._* Braking too late after slipstream. *_1._* Cutting corners. *_Honorable Mentions_* • Braking too late. • Divebombing There I just saved you 13 Minutes & 2 Seconds of your lives. You're welcome in advance.

[@kommandant.357]

great video! and thanks for making it so we can get hopefully get better in racing!

[@Beazelundefined]

My main mistake is that Im very occasional driver. Might not touch the wheel for days, just in case i got tired at work and driving car IRL on the way home. In that way I tend to quickly forget the tracks, especially if I play them on different games. But after about 30 mins by the wheel I feel comfortable doing some hotlap in a retro openwheeler :D

[@LuisGarcia-pr9yb]

Very nice video, an ex pro driver said once It is better get on the gas soon than try to late brake miss the apex and try to regain the right racing line. Dice bombong is for drivers with no skills and lot of anxhiety

[@MidnightClubStillCancelledSoz]

Breaking too late is really annoying...

[@DRWNGamer6915]

ULTRA-LATE-BRAKING-TECHNIQUE

[@primeradagon1306]

@@DRWNGamer6915 ahhh yes, fellow man of culture

[@mustafahussam9616]

Thank you for the vid Viper. I also find myself guilty of not setting up the car correctly and not giving my opponents the space they need especially in RX which imo forces you to walk(drive) a very fine line between contact and giving space

[@DarthJF]

"Respect personal space, don't break too late." 10-year-old me playing Gran Turismo: *breaks by crashing into other cars in the corner*

[@wizworksindustries]

“Respecting Personal Space” Assetto corsa track day lobby: Exist. Random guy clearly trying to hotlap: Also exist. Me: Tandem?

[@KhnemuPlay]

fuel and tyre have a great impact in your break point too =]

[@Kazu_Katto]

I'd add locking on to the car infront and repeating the same mistakes they make especially when it comes to corners

[@shadowblade2149]

When I first started sim racing, I could relate to all of them besides, the disrespecting peoples space. Now, I can only relate to number 3. As you race more and more, it gives you more time to experiment and improve racecraft. Which is what I have done. Now, i just have to work on improving my speed, which everyone does all the time. Lewis Hamilton, max verstappen, Charles Leclerc etc.

[@nitrostorm470]

Viperconcept your teaching lesson videos are good as always and I highly respect your knowledge and respect for racing man. I have 1 question: Do you think you can some more tips of your lessons on racing games called Need For Speed Shift and Need For Speed Shift 2 Unleashed? I understand that their mostly arcade sim racing games, and not much played online but I want to see how I can improve by learning what you know. Thanks man and again amazing teachings.

[@Beazelundefined]

The main thing is u have to understand about Shift games to get better is that there is no grip after C class. That means u have no grip just like the other cars do. U can use this knowledge along with understanding that its an arcade. Which will let u smash thru the corners really fast at still a reasonable speed

[@nitrostorm470]

Алексей Александров Thanks I’ll keep that in mind and practice. That may help me in NFS Shift.

[@gt-friess4235]

“Personal Space” Cops : I’ll give you that. *Starts Ramming*

[@flyingturtle8868]

It's literally 1 AM here in brazil

[@brzi_zeko1623]

Tartaruga Voadora that sucks it's 6 am in Bosnia 🤣

[@flyingturtle8868]

@@brzi_zeko1623 why am I still awake? I mean we're in quarentine and we have nothing to do in our house so we stay at 2, 3 AM awake trying to do something

[@brzi_zeko1623]

Tartaruga Voadora same thing here,I've played dirt rally 2.0 whole time 🤣

[@jon05091997]

e só esperando meu g29(que deve chegar amanhã), pra aproveitar esse mês de maio que estou de férias no trabalho e ñ posso sair por conta da quarentena.

[@flyingturtle8868]

@@brzi_zeko1623 lol. I'm just watching some videos waiting my F1 2018 to finish downloading. It's 1:23 AM now and I still waiting

[@SimRacingNewbie]

Nice video, thanks for the reminder, I find myself breaking all of these on a daily basis lol

[@tommasoamati1805]

Honorable mention #3: in a rush, giving all the gas after a corner and spinning

[@NilsOnTrack]

note: you losen the brake at 7:13 way before the turn in point. That causes your off track even without a higher speed after slipstream ^^ But I am grateful for your summary for clean racing, especially the pit exit line. It annoys me so much with other people.

[@idkwhatowritehere-p3m]

thats good information, thanks again for your racing classes

[@backyardrestorations]

Love the Xbox original intro man! Very nostalgic.

[@ketronik8515]

That "respect personal space" example at Spa is exactly what happened to me the other day...same way, same track and same corner!! I was on the inside and he crashed me....so frustating

[@omegalegendary4072]

The only mistakes I made are most of them (including the late braking and sometimes not respecting the opponent’s space), the one I made the most is the wrong setup, mostly because idk how to setup the car correctly, so I leave it on default setup

[@kevinstubbs2960]

Dude his Tactics r insane

[@karussoul]

Number 4: Respect your opponent's personal space Gran Turismo 4 Special Conditions AI: did y'all hear something? **5 second penalty**

[@jdapaul1351]

Honorable mention #1: *exists* Ayrton Senna: if you no longer for a gap that exists, you're no longer a racing driver.

[@JReaLBiz86]

I don't think I can consider myself a pro racer in racing games, but these aren't mistakes I make very often, if at all. Also, you have a tendency to exaggerate your point quite often in your videos. Specifically on your slipstream braking clip, you had the braking to make the corner on attempt 3, but braked differently than you did the first two laps (your second lap you actually braked early) by letting off the brakes far too soon. I agree that's something a driver has to keep in mind after a slipstream, but unless they are a beginner, I don't see these mistakes happening much at all. Overall I liked the video, because they are useful tips for a beginner who needs to learn consistency and proper racecraft. Perhaps you should make a video that shows what a beginner should do for an entire session at a track, from coming in and finding a setup, to working their way up to the limit, to running consistent laps within .2-.3 of each other, to driving around other racers and proper overtaking. I think with your format, if you put those ideas together as part of a process instead of just pointing out the mistakes, it could be beneficial to people learning how to race.

[@lonedri2890]

my own top 3: top 3: staying on my lane because i'm too used to role-play top2: hitting the rev limiter because it's eargasmic top1: Powerslide/drift

[@Redlineshadow29]

Personaly i am more of braking late and a bit cutting. Sometimes also depends on the racing lines in tracks if sometimes we have to pick the curb in the entry and the exit of the corner

[@mavairick]

One of my personnal demons is using the same break point on inside line than on outside line (in duel), which obviously means braking too late and crossing the whole turn from in to out, usually taking the outside car with me for a ride in the grass. (hopefully I haven't came into online racing yet, I'm doing this on AI)

[@matheusaugusto7464]

Man, I love your videos

[@Seltsamisierend]

I feel very nostalgic by that intro

[@K3ntucky123]

"divebombing are being disrespect to other racer" GRID A.I: observed

[@ChampinOut]

Honeslty, the redbull ring would be so sick backwards imo

[@thomasschoemaker2020]

8:45 There is nothing wrong with that move in my opinion. Yes, you came from far but you braked later made no contact and made the corner. The clip before that was a terrible move as you just ran into the side of him and drove off the track but this one is completely fine. If anything the defending car did not do a good enough job of defending the position.

[@BrooXX856]

There wasn’t a thing wrong with that move. That’s just some damn good racing. If that’s considered disrespectful, then I don’t want respect

[@AimanPF]

me in gt sport : respecting personal spaces others : haha divebomb go boom boom

[@fabianmarcoschau]

The too late braking when going faster than usual happens to me at Hockenheimring all the time on the long left cornered straight

[@sirira]

I always make the same mistake of not braking early enough after long straights when making a sharp turn. It's hard for me to judge depth perception in a video game.

[@AdrianFerrari]

2:27 "Doing the Verstappen"

[@cyaanghoost]

Well in Assetto, there are penalties for crossing the pit exit thanks to the kiss my rank on servers

[@stpbasss3773]

Project cars 2 as well, I was racing Monaco yesterday and I kept getting a cutting penalty on the first turn then I realized I was cutting across the yellow pit line where they come out of the pits into the first turn lol......ooops

[@pressstart1490]

You missed one REALLY big mistake from Begginers, Including me Start Playing simulators without a wheel

[@SheetFiber]

I hope it's not keyboard

[@lucatarolli7950]

playing a full sim with a keyboard is almost impossible and a really bad experience with a gamepad you can also match wheel users laptimes if you are skilled enough using a wheel is a different world in terms of pleasure

[@The.Accountant.11]

You're the master! Master Yoda! Very informative video. I mean I learned most of the racing skills against the AI (I don't do online racing) by observing the opponents (AI and real racing). But when I was learning to play racing Sim like GT sport, I decided 1st learn how to drive a car (GT sport) and it became difficult to learn/practice all the fundamental skills like acceleration, braking, turning, maintaining corner, defending, attacking, all of them simultaneously when car is in motion with (AI race) or without (time trial) the opponents when I am new. Especially when I am driven to win or passionate to play the game.

[@lazersharkproductions5622]

Divebomb is the one I most relate to 100 percent

[@josecamacho5522]

7:50 Daniel Ricciardo: I'm gona pretend I didn't see that

[@perikholt3395]

3:49 The joys of open lobbies; having to give up positions to worse players because they'll just take both of you out if you don't.

[@kami_narisama]

Ah yes, the Senna tactics, minus the skillful driving

[@Icehawk_9]

Since I mostly play PC2, something I knowingly do wrong is not use enough of the kurbs. Those suckers really get you in that game so I have to have a slightly wider apex and not as much runoff as I would any other time.

[@superretro3907]

Yo! that intro

[@viperdemonz-jenkins]

after 25 years or so of racing game I still tend to sometimes make these mistakes.

[@jxpd7898]

I think my most made mistake, is in dirt rally 2 I almost always get over confident especially when winning

[@kapilbusawah7169]

I thought the one at 8:50 was pretty good. Lunging is always dangerous but it is a great advance technique to use such shouldn't be used by less skilled drivers. In good hands it's legit

[@Wolf-km5wm]

Good video as always, I can relate to few points 😁

[@Not_Astrocat]

"Forgetting to setup the car before the race" *Has never changed the default car settings in any racing game ever*

[@Guardrailkid]

2:59 look closely to the mirror, Shingo bumped his car

[@yalsonnoorcahayapratama3775]

#4 is so me on GRID series, while i got pole position on one WSR round but still start 5th or below

[@marcosgp1998]

Breaking in the same point having a car ahead of you. I think this is the worst mistake

[@sporttube69]

As long as you don’t make contact and don’t squeeze someone divebombs aren’t that bad

[@andersonbadari]

- I see dive bombers - How often do you see them? - All the time....

[@spitfire3032]

*"It's better loosing a place than causing a crash with your opponent"* Dirty drivers: No... No, I don't think I will.

[@temkki]

#4 I respect often too much which makes me lose places alot, #3 Yep that's totally me, #2 Sometimes I do this, #1 never online but I am very very aggressive against AI. Great video, thank you!