Top 5 Reasons Why You Should Wear Automatic/Mechanical Watches - Perth WAtch #93

[@snacklofter]

Nice video - thank you. My first automatic watch bought when I started my first job back in 1984 was a humble Seiko 5 - it's still going strong without a service. I've lost count of how many quartz watches I've had that no longer work since then! atb snack.

[@PerthWAtch]

Thanks for sharing about your first automatic experience... it's something that tends to stay with us I reckon! Seiko - still a legend :)

[@fkkggkkfdsadsa111]

you lie

[@bg-id1uo]

Great points! My faves are pre 90s vintage Timex watches and both modern day /older Vostoks!

[@PerthWAtch]

Thanks for sharing that! :)

[@bg-id1uo]

@@PerthWAtch pleasure my friend ,and greetings from New England/USA!!

[@RecicledCanadian]

40 years ago I received a birthday gift from my mother. I was 18K gold, 17 jewelers Poliot Russian mechanical watch. Beautiful sunburst green dial with gold applied indices. I still have it works perfectly and is the very accurate timekeeper. Hasn't been serviced or even opened for 40 years now. I love your reviews and I have purchased many watches on your recommendation. Keep good work, Grettings fro Toronto.

[@PerthWAtch]

Hey there, thank you very much for sharing that story, really love hearing other people's stories! And thank you for the support, it is very much appreciated! Cheers, Ivan.

[@oscarosullivan4513]

I didn’t know the Soviets made proper gold watches

[@neilpiper9889]

If you look at watch trends in start up companies in 2017. I.e. Marloe watches. Hand wind Seagull movement with a wonderful display caseback. A thing of beauty with a 50 hour power reserve. Seiko 007. Not very beautiful and NO handwinding. Don't forget handwind watches. Vostok Classic 2017. Handwound with beautiful movement with a display caseback. The handwind watches are overlooked a lot on KZbin imo.

[@PerthWAtch]

Thanks for that Neil - yes I do think there is something intangibly special about hand wound mechanical watches. They do get overlooked by many, including myself. Perhaps it's to do with the trappings of a modern world, and even in an area with much history like horology, people tend towards self-winding automatics.

[@Trex100]

I like your content man.

[@PerthWAtch]

Thanks - glad you enjoy the videos :)

[@ramonalbertotamayoisla2592]

Excellent!!

[@PerthWAtch]

Thank you for that Ramon :)

[@Lesfac]

The only point I agree with you on is the craftsmanship and style of mechanical watches. I am thinking about a quality watch but I know I won't wear it every day because it will be precious and I know I would scratch it. If I wear it once or twice a week, every time I put it on it will be run down and I will have to reset time date and day. That's resetting 100 times a year compared to getting a battery once every two years.

[@PerthWAtch]

Sounds like you could really do with a watch winder - check my video on this! ;)

[@daveboy1247]

Would you agree with me that an automatic watch will keep better time accuracy if the user wears it and is more active such as going walking regularly instead of wearing it and sitting in watching tv.

[@PerthWAtch]

I don't think there is clear evidence to suggest that... for some watches maybe, for others it doesn't seem to matter what activity you're engaged in. It largely depends on the quality and isochronism of the movement.

[@daveboy1247]

@@PerthWAtch I bought a new cadisen C1032 Automatic Mens Watch a few days ago, it is losing 6.1 seconds per day, will this accuracy get better within a few weeks or not and is a 6.1 seconds per day loss ok.

[@PerthWAtch]

The accuracy will likely vary depending on position and how much power reserve it has. 6 seconds loss per day is fine IMO.

[@Mister_Phafanapolis]

I love hearing the "history" card being played for why automatic watches are the bee's knees. Yes, there is a long going back hundreds of years for pocketable time keeping devices but quartz is at the very tippy end of that timeline. If WIS were honest they would admit that they 1) like having something different from the common pleb and 2) like when the movement goes tickclicktickclicktickclicktickclick multiple times per second. From there they can justify a watch being inaccurate because hEriTaGe.

[@PerthWAtch]

Thanks for the comment - not sure about 1) as you can get a quartz and still have "something different from the common pleb" as you say. 2) is probably true for many. Do check out my complementary video on why wear quartz watches if you haven't already ;)

[@mr22guy]

I like your channel and support you, but sorry mate, your points here are flawed. 1. History - quartz is part of history as well 2. Craftsmanship - valid opinion 3. Connection - you mean enslavement like Ben Hur rowing the oar ;) 4. Convenience - srsly? quartz is grab n go, but a mech has to be wound or shaken, then set, every freakin time you put it on. Quartz loses about a second a month so no resetting, which is more convenient! And every 2 years I spend 3 minutes swapping the battery - yep, i do it myself (refer back to connection). A mechanical watch loses more time than that! LOL 5. Style - highly subjective and totally dependent on what manufacturers choose to create, not on the movement.

[@PerthWAtch]

Points are fine as articulated - let me elaborate: 1. Yes quartz is part of history, but so is the Apple Watch. We are talking 50 years vs. hundreds of years. Mechanical wins ;) 2. Tick 3. Yes... it's a tick then. 4. Yes seriously. You spend 3 minutes, for others it's a trip to someone who might rip you off, and who might be out of the way. Quartz is of course more accurate and will keep running as long as has battery, so it's a different type of grab and go convenience. You really need to see my complementary video on why wear quartz watches. 5. Highly subjective... but objective fact is that nobody hand decorates a quartz movement, nor would they put a hand painted or cloisonne enamel dial on a quartz watch. The watches considered most beautiful by most people are mechanical.

[@jorgeluisriveraconcepcion8953]

What if I wear a Kinetic?

[@PerthWAtch]

Not actually consider "automatic" by most, and certainly not mechanical...

[@vighneshks3944]

I need a automatic watche Can you help me

[@PerthWAtch]

Are you asking me to give you one, or are you asking for a suggestion?

[@vighneshks3944]

Perth WAtch ,sorry sir I accidentally asked you

[@vighneshks3944]

Perth WAtch sir if you will give me one that would be so amazing And I am just 16YRS so I couldn't buy one

[@vighneshks3944]

Perth WAtch sir I am just starting my youtube carrier so I would make a video on it if you send me one

[@PerthWAtch]

Good on you for making a start, and 16 years, I wish I had your initiative! Well I would advise you to ask around people you know for watches you can borrow to feature on your channel for a start - that's how I got started. Also some Casio pieces start at $10, which you may be able to afford anyway! My second most viewed video with nearly 200k hits is of a $14 Casio...!! All the best, Ivan.

[@theomegaman3489]

Everybody has his reasons i guess.

[@PerthWAtch]

Indeed... do check out my complimentary video on why wear quartz watches if you haven't already :)

[@chienlinchen8877]

Another potencial reason: Although not applicable to all brands and models, but a lot of quartz watch's seconds hand just can't hit markers accurately. It drives me crazy. The only quartz movements that dodges this problem are Bulova high frequency quartz and Seiko VH series.

[@PerthWAtch]

Thanks for that! Ah yes, good point... it's extremely annoying when the second hand is obviously misaligned! I've been fortunate in that the vast majority of my pieces have been ok... I suspect that quartz pieces around $400 or more probably get sufficient attention to detail to avoid this, at least that's my experience. Cheers, Ivan.

[@christosswc]

Both my 100 euro Casio Edifices are very well aligned, even on the small chronographs. My 600 euro Buler is not. Seems to me like the Japanese watches are superior in this respect.

[@Diepvries11]

Those are cheap quartz watches.

[@Diepvries11]

@@christosswc Japanese watches are superior in any respect.

[@oscarosullivan4513]

@@Diepvries11 Not seiko

[@mORTcube]

I just found a mechanical watch after my grand grandad. Its a PRIM 17 Jewels watch. Must be at least 40 years old or more. Its beautiful, no scratches, works perfectly. It even has a little text that says: "Czechoslovakia" a country that doesnt exist anymore. I cant even describe how much I appreciate it and all the history behind it.

[@PerthWAtch]

Hey, thanks for sharing that - awesome to hear, really love hearing about people's experiences like this! :)

[@PerthWAtch]

Wow these spruiking posts are getting very coordinated!

[@oscarosullivan4513]

Do bring it to R/Watches

[@ChromeMan04]

Hello, I have an Orient watch given to me by father back in high school. It powers up with me winding it to the preferred time and it says working with hand movement. Is my watch automatic? Thanks!

[@PerthWAtch]

Yeah sounds like it’s automatic

[@hidekihayashi785]

Thanks, Ivan, for this one. You clarified why I continue on getting automatic ones which I could not quite explain except for the "feelings" I get from 'em!!

[@PerthWAtch]

Haha my pleasure, glad you found this video helpful :)

[@woonfaseng8737]

point 4 is definitely controversial if not outright wrong. that is the convenient of QUARTZ .

[@chienlinchen8877]

Unless you are wearing a solar or kinetic quartz watch, you will have to change it's battery after a couple of years. But if you are wearing an automatic watch, well, you just don't have to worry about it.

[@PerthWAtch]

Woon Fa Seng - hmmm that's a controversial thought, if not outright wrong ;) I think battery quartz are convenient in terms of accuracy and not having to wind up, but as per Chien Lin's comment I think it is not controversial at all saying that not having to change batteries in automatics *is a convenience* . Cheers! Ivan.

[@robertnorris8367]

I think the point Woon is making is that if you have numerous watches in your collection you won’t wear the same watch all the time. So if you don’t wear a particular watch for a while there might not be any power reserve left. Then you will have to wind it or wear it for a while to charge the motor.

[@PerthWAtch]

It could be, Rob, it absolutely could be. But... firstly, it wasn't articulated as such, and secondly it doesn't negate the point I made :)

[@MrDoctorSchultz]

@@chienlinchen8877 Don't you have to get mechanical watches serviced every few years though?

[@ramonalbertotamayoisla2592]

Hi, good points on automatics. Great videos! I think for a collector automatics are pretty much appreciated,

[@PerthWAtch]

Thanks for that Ramon - glad you found the video informative! Cheers, Ivan.

[@harvardford8752]

number 11 because Perth Says so LISTEN TO HIM INFIDELS please ( ;-; )

[@davidviner4932]

5 reasons to wear a solar watch: unbox it and it starts telling time right away, no wait!, use any light to keep it ticking, wear it for decades without removing the back and replacing the seal, it's quartz accurate not like mechanical watches which have poor accuracy, never needs an expensive service which auto mech watches need every 5 years min, look better due to thinner case designs, sorry I wasn't keeping count on the number of reasons but if you want to invest in a museum piece then buy an automatic (yes I've had quite a few) but if you want a wrist watch you can wear every day and forget about being on your wrist only when you want to tell the time then buy a solar.

[@PerthWAtch]

A lot of half truths there mate - have you had one for “decades”? People had unboxed a solar to find its flat and definitely doesn’t tell time right away. Mechanical servicing is a marketing gimmick - I’ve not had to service any of mine - that includes a Rolex that’s over 30 years old, never opened, works perfect. I’ve not seen a solar that looks better than my best mechanicals, etc etc.

[@rayneman888]

My analogy. Automatic vs Manual Transmission Automatic transmissions have surpassed Manuals in efficiency and practicality. But there's something about manual transmissions that make you feel much more connected and in control of the automobile you're driving. Also, I favor Automatics for their designs and build quality. With automatics, you're usually going to get a much nicer case, dial, bracelet, and hands than a Quartz. But I still like my G-Shock and Phoibos Quartz watches because they are low maintenance and do not have to worry about setting the time once every two weeks.

[@PerthWAtch]

Thanks for that mate! So... You're saying automatics are worse!? :D Haha what a play on words... I love your analogy, agree with your thoughts. I think I can see both sides of the argument... Planning a "top 5 reasons why wear Quartz" video soon! Cheers, Ivan.

[@shaneschambach932]

Great video! I agree with you 100%. Automatics are the way to go. They command respect and are a sign of maturity in every sense. You helped me be convinced on what I was almost certain about. Cheers.

[@PerthWAtch]

That’s cool man - glad this was helpful! :)

[@barreltech8949]

Great info. It’s good to build a collection of variety with all movements

[@PerthWAtch]

Thank you - glad you found this useful! :)

[@newsigmundfreud3023]

*One downside mechanic (automatic) vs quartz is accuracy need adjustments monthly while quartz doesn't need any adjustments, because adjusting when changing daylight savings time and back. A watch is to give me time, of course accurately. It should be thin and nice and not cost so much. Bottom line, no watch has it all. It depends on taste and/vs practicality. Style on outside does NOT have to do mechanical vs quartz. Quartz watches can be made easily thinner and nicer. Rolex watches are not worth their money. To maintain it after couple of years makes it even less worth.*

[@PerthWAtch]

*Thank you for expressing your opinion. Regarding accuracy, yes you're right - I described this in detail in my video on quartz watches* : kzbin.info/www/bejne/q4nMoYGkjLyWsMk *A watch is to give time but often also much more, and for some of those other factors mechanical is where it's at.* *A watch does not have to be thin - perhaps you have seen some quartz models like the Mudmaster, deliberately made chunky.* *Not sure why you are saying style does not have to do with mechanical or quartz... it's as if you didn't hear what I said in the video!* *And the last sentiment is purely subjective... here's another view: Rolex watches are easily worth their money, will hold value (whereas almost no quartz does), and can go without servicing for decades (I have one just like that).* Cheers! ;)

[@MsLee-oh7hy]

Thanks for making this video. I am looking to buy automatic watch for my boyfriend. I don’t want him to ever have to buy a battery 🔋 for a watch that I bought him.

[@PerthWAtch]

Glad it was helpful! Have you worked out what you're getting him?

[@MsLee-oh7hy]

Thanks for asking. No I have not. I showed my boyfriend a few watches from Poshmark and a few KZbin videos and I now have a better idea of type and style of watch he likes.

[@maverickwatchreviews]

Great explanation of the differences in timekeeping technology. I love my Rangeman as well but there is just something so special about an auto on your wrist. I equate Autos to dogs that need love & attention and Quartz's that are like cats and don't care if their owner lives or dies...lol

[@PerthWAtch]

Thanks for that dude! I love your analogy of dogs and cats, very apt in many ways! Regarding technology, I guess there are also the original Bulova Accutrons which were based on tuning forks, but I've never had one in hand...

[@thelegendkillersshittyduff1335]

Have no idea why people love cats dogs actually give a shit about there owners

[@swiss86watches]

Nice video brother I love my mechanical ⚙️ watches

[@PerthWAtch]

That’s awesome man!

[@bensonj.7924]

Love this video. Had to send it to my girl because she bought me a nice quartz watch and this video explained not the difference between the two, but definitely the reasons why I want an automatic watch over a quartz. I didn’t want to sound ungrateful lol. She understands thanks to this video. Appreciate it

[@PerthWAtch]

Haha that’s awesome - so she’s gonna get you an auto for the next one? :)

[@bensonj.7924]

@@PerthWAtch yes she’s knows now only automatic watches for me lol

[@jamessantana2071]

INTERESTING INFORMATIVE THOUGHFUL REVIEW ... Of all choices you mentioned I Definitely LIKE "CRAFTSMANSHIP" Best as I get somewhat attached to USEFUL HELPFUL Tools, for example my Car which I Love To Drive (Like "Her" a lot) & a Mechanical Watch beats like a heart & each has its own Special Personality ... I'd also add to the list "HERITAGE" (defined as Valued Quality passed down from Previous Generation) as I try to inherit the Best Qualities of my Dad & Role Model, & He ALWAYS wound his watches & Punctuality to Work was Important to Him. Thanks, Major Jim, USMC

[@PerthWAtch]

Great comment Jim! Totally agree, heritage is definitely something generally reserved for mechanical pieces passed down... heck I've never heard of a dad passing down a quartz to his son as yet!

[@PerthWAtch]

Oh by the way, I am planning a "why wear quartz watches" video to come in the near future, so this will be balanced out... I'm sure you'll enjoy that one too!

[@meekacumen]

Thanks for the vid. Automatics are my fav, I don't wear anything else, not even kinetics. I have a question for you. I recently bought a 47mm invicta Grand diver and love the form factor. Can you recommend me a watch that is of higher quality that shares the same form factor as the grand diver and also something that won't break the bank. Cheers

[@PerthWAtch]

Thanks for the comment. Interesting question, and the answer could be difficult depending how important the exact form factor is for you (i.e. the giant Rolex Sub shape of the Grand Divers). Options include *Citizen Promaster* (although I think it's hard to find an automatic one these days, mostly Eco-Drive), *Seiko Tuna* (very different form...), *Benarus Megalodon* (not sure if hard to get), *Marathon JSAR* and *Victorinox Dive Master 500* (but that's 43mm).

[@omarkharnivall2439]

Orient M Force, its auto, its huge (mines 46mm) and precise

[@Gemyr]

I buy my automatic watch bcoz 1. history

[@PerthWAtch]

A worthy reason in itself!

[@victorcarrillo2151]

I will say condensing 5 reasons into 1: Art, I also like more the movement of the second hand in automatic watches is so smooth

[@PerthWAtch]

Good thought! And yes the movement of the second hand is one of the things that sets automatics apart from almost all quartz... again, part of artistry you could say! :)

[@bengchiatseah3908]

get a Bulova Precionist then, 16 beats per second.

[@Nikioko]

Get a Grand Seiko with Spring Drive. Sweep movement as a variable magnetic field brakes the escapement wheel.

[@PerthWAtch]

Sure... but are you classifying that as mechanical or Quartz?

[@Nikioko]

Well, it has springs and cogwheels, an escapement, no battery... what do you thing? It is a mechanical watch with a built-in timing machine that permanently adjusts the balance wheel.

[@krystalin555]

I have a beautiful automatic Seiko SPB059j1, radio controlled Junghans Mega Titanium and some sort of Citizen Eco Drive. I appreciate the looks of Seiko but I prefer the two others simply because of the accuracy and precision. My next watch will definitely be a high accuracy quartz or a radio controlled one, not an automatic one.

[@PerthWAtch]

Thanks for the thoughts - do check out my complementary video on why wear quartz, if you haven’t already :)

[@onedirection3510]

Lots of good information and many ironies here. There are many parts of the world where punctuality is not something regarded very highly in every day life. Yet, Swiss are known for their extreme punctuality and yet they are most known for automatic watches which are the least exact in time. 🤷‍♂️ It’s kind of funny to be in a rush to get a train and to be wondering exactly what time it is and not to look at your several thousand dollar automatic watch but to reach for your expensive smart phone to find the exact time! 😂

[@PerthWAtch]

Yes indeed... which is why many enthusiasts don’t hold interest in watches because of accuracy, but for the other things they represent. If I’m serious about wanting to know the time, I don’t look at my automatic watch, but rather reach for my very *cheap* smartphone :)

[@John..18]

Hi,, just found this video, great presentation,,, I particularly like the point about "connection", , it's like a 2 way thing, we are giving "life" and power, to the thing on our wrists, and in return, it gives us, an indication of the passage of time.... In other words,, it's man and machine, living in perfect harmony,, !! Thanks again Ivan, for another great video,, All the best,, John .

[@PerthWAtch]

Thanks man - I think you put it nicely there! :)

[@hazaeel99]

Great video, thank you for sharing your opinion and knowledge.

[@PerthWAtch]

Thanks for watching make... glad you enjoyed it! :)

[@0017Bulldog]

Automatic/Mechanical watches are alive to me. Quartz (while I do own some) are just machines.

[@PerthWAtch]

Thanks for that - yeah I think intuitively that's what a lot of us probably feel! Cheers, Ivan.

[@teamhonn]

0017Bulldog I agree. My quartz watches I view as more life style devices. My Ironman and GPS watch for hiking. They work perfect but just not cool like my automatic watches.

[@0017Bulldog]

Thank you for the reply my friend. I like your question. In my simple mind, an automatic that is out of energy is sleeping because it can be brought back to life with a quick shake. However, a quartz that is out of energy is dead until it is resuscitated (given a new battery). Please know that I love quartz watches also. I think a good collection should have both. Quartz provides the carefree accuracy that you may desire like I do, but Automatics provide that quirky + and - accuracy that requires loving attention. My collection is on the low end, but here's what I have. Quartz - Seiko SND703,: Automatic - Seiko SNK809, Seiko SKX007, Invicta Pro Diver 17049? I hope that helps...the bottom line: like what you like and have fun with it.

[@oscarosullivan4513]

They both are machines

[@0017Bulldog]

@@oscarosullivan4513 but, of course.

[@cormaster7291]

I just ordered a Tissot skeleton watch

[@PerthWAtch]

Nice - hope you enjoy it! :)

[@turningpointinspiration]

Mechanical watches are not worth the time or trouble. I want a high quality and highly accurate watch rather than just a status symbol. I am wealthy enough to buy high end watches, but I choose to wear quartz watches. My daily rotation consist of a quartz omega golden eye seamaster 2541.80, a quartz omega double eagle gold constellation, a omega seamaster black sword hands 2254, and Seiko sne441.

[@PerthWAtch]

Whether something is worth the time or trouble depends on what your goals and desires are. Fact is that thousands if not millions find mechanical watches of interest and worth their attention... but obviously have a different objective to your own. It ok to prefer quartz, it’s also ok to prefer mechanical ;)

[@turningpointinspiration]

Thanks for the response. I am just seeking a reason to add a Rolex to my daily rotation.

[@mightyzorro]

im new to automatic watches, and have a question for anyone who wants to answer. is it bad for the automatic watch if i pull the crown out after use (like you would on a battery watch?)

[@PerthWAtch]

Hi there! Interesting question - I assume you are referring to watches that hack (where the second hand stops). As far as I know it shouldn't be a problem but seeing as you're going to stop using the watch for some time why not just let it run down? I think that is more advisable as it dissipates the tension in the mainspring. BTW I do not pull the crown out on Quartz watch - my understanding is that this doesn't actually stop battery usage.

[@mightyzorro]

ok cool. thank you for your response.. i do it by habit,.. not use dto having a automatic.. in my mind its saving the mechanisms that make it tick, but i guess thats just not true..

[@PerthWAtch]

No worries - more importantly keep in mind it doesn't do anything for Quartz either!

[@jamessmith6402]

Interesting video well presented Thanks 👍

[@PerthWAtch]

Thanks James - glad you enjoyed it!

[@sly8220]

Unfortunately.. unpractical reasons!! More emotional reasons..

[@PerthWAtch]

Did you watch the whole video? I don't see how "4. Convenience" is emotional, and also the extra mention of appreciation potential. The rest, yes, mostly emotional... but that's what art is ;)

[@lordbountifulitsme7919]

Hi, My first Seiko was a Bell-Matic automatic 17 jewels, It cost 2 weeks wages 47 years ago, and still working with no maintenance and just dug it out after many years & put it on while writing this. In fact I will wear it a lot more now maybe with a selection of 20mm NATO Straps Talk about History! If only this watch could Talk 🤣😂🇳🇿 Keep up the magic work 🎩💯🙏

[@PerthWAtch]

Thanks for sharing that mate - what a piece of history you have there! And how amazing, 47 years with no service - maybe you could even now sell it back to Seiko for a few months wages! :)

[@trackpackgt877]

Oh the Bell Matic seiko's those are rare hard to find and very expensive if you do so awesome that a mechanical watch has an alarm I want one very cool watch you're lucky to have one

[@LaserFocused]

Shit but everyone wears an apple watch! I will keep my mechanical watch

[@PerthWAtch]

And I shall keep mine... lost count how many :)

[@LaserFocused]

@@PerthWAtch Nice I wish I could afford many good for you I only have a submariner..

[@PerthWAtch]

Work hard and the rewards will come my friend :)

[@Leesherwood]

I agree with you.

[@PerthWAtch]

Thank you - good to hear! :)

[@chilledtea6614]

My first automatic came from Perth Australia funny enough lol

[@PerthWAtch]

Haha how interesting! Was that eBay? What watch was it?

[@abhishekgoyal4590]

I want to wear automatic watch because it will never fade and unphased by technology ,battery will die movement will die but you can buy 1600mechanical watch today also and vice versa you can buy 1920 perrelett watch with self winding mechanism, automatic never dies...

[@PerthWAtch]

Actually they do also tend to die, and when obsolete can be impossible to fix...

[@abhishekgoyal4590]

@@PerthWAtch i find automatic watches to last forever...

[@PerthWAtch]

Glad to hear it’s worked well for you.

[@captaintarel]

your point on convenience really doesn't make sense to me, saying that quartz watches take longer to start up. Yes, if your battery is dead changing it is more difficult than getting a mechanical watch going, but all it takes for a mechanical watch to stop is generally a few days of not wearing or touching it, quartz watches generally go years between batteries. So yes, there is once instance when it's more convenient to have a mechanical, but only if you take good care of it and if that's basically the only watch you wear. It's hardly 'convenient' to have to wind your watch every day, or in the case of automatics wear it every day.

[@PerthWAtch]

If you rotate watches as many people do, I end up thinking about the fact the my quartz pieces are using up their battery everyday, and after some time it is going to need to be changed. For mechanical pieces you can leave them for however long you wish (years even), then when you come back to it you start it up again and away you go, no loss at all. Not sure what you mean about "only if you take good care of it" - do you think you don't have to take care of quartz? As for "if that's basically the only watch you wear", well no actually, quite the opposite. The convenience comes especially if you have multiple pieces. Say you got 10 automatic watches - rotating periodically through them there is no problem leaving the other 9 resting wound down. With 10 quartz pieces, you got 9 others eating battery every single moment and not being used.

[@captaintarel]

@@PerthWAtch yes but every time you rotate to a mechanical watch you have to reset the watch to the correct time if it's run down, that's where I find quartz to work better since if I leave my watch for days or weeks, I can be fairly certain that it's still running and still keeping good time. My current everyday watch has been going solidly for 5 years without a battery change. This may be an outlier, but I'd still expect batteries to last 2-3 years. Yeah you may have 9 other watches using battery power that's being wasted (and admittedly, I wouldn't keep that many watches running constantly, probably only 4 or 5) but even at my lower end, that's a battery change once every two months, versus time setting every time I change a watch if I had 10 mechanical.

[@PerthWAtch]

It sounds like you have a different view on the process of setting a mechanical watch, but many find the "ritual" part of routine of owning such watches and can actually be rather cathartic. The reverse for quartz is indeed also a convenience in that you can pick it up and not have to worry about having to set the time. It's true that having to change the battery would be a less frequent occurrence even when owning 10 quartz watches, but that process is certainly not the equivalent of having to set a mechanical watch - almost everyone I know cannot do it themselves, whilst anyone can start up a mechanical.

[@stanTrX]

Because i am rich?

[@PerthWAtch]

Being rich allows you to buy both quartz and automatic watches :)

[@stanTrX]

I already have a tissot prc 200 metallic strap. Looking for an alternative. Liked the style of timex weekender, but it seems to be not that high quality and many critics to be ticking too loud.. any suggestion with a nato strap flexibility with minimalistic ( non chrono if possible) alternative, which is a bit better quality?

[@PerthWAtch]

Depends on exactly what style you want and also budget... but a good start might be the BOLDR Venture (or Expedition if you want auto).

[@stanTrX]

Perth WAtch thank you for the good tip.

[@yacovmitchenko1490]

I agree with all your points and appreciate your video. Fortunately, my Hamilton Boulton Quartz White Dial Men's Watch (tank-style) seems to capture the best of both worlds. It has the elegant, old-school dressy look, superb craftsmanship, and great accuracy. It certainly has the history you speak of, the 1st version appearing in the 1940s or 50s. While you're correct that accuracy is not the main reason for purchasing a mechanical watch, I still think it's an important issue, a matter of degree. I have a problem with a watch that loses or gains 20 seconds a day. 10 seconds daily is just acceptable. For a 500 plus dollar watch, say, I'd expect it to be off by 5 seconds or less. My Orient Star Elegant Classic (of the rose-gold variety) more than satisfies on this score, losing about 2 or 3 seconds daily, which is phenomenal.

[@PerthWAtch]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Fair points but prepared to be disappointed if you’re expectation is for that level of accuracy at $500 point. Your Orient had a great result but the next one you buy may well be much worse than that - it just comes with the territory!

[@yehoshuacirt8645]

Only the fifth point about design and finishing or case beauty speaks to me. I'd love a well finished quartz watch. But the Swiss purposefully sabotage quartz watches. Even Longines and Omega high end quartz are in cases intentionally inferior to the quartz counterparts. They want you to pay more for their automatics. Omega doesn't use the best ETA quartz calibers. Again, part of their plan to dodge any real investment in what would be a superior yet cheaper luxury watch. As well as much easier and again, cheaper, to maintain. Maybe the culprit is Swatch.

[@PerthWAtch]

I think there is very real truth behind what you describe... although not just the Swiss I would say. Other European countries seem to have the same trend, and Seiko also do see to market their mechanical pieces to a different audience. As to whether quartz is "superior", that is highly debatable, with issues of what constitutes luxury coming into play, as it is clearly not predominantly about accuracy and ease of maintenance.

[@mr22guy]

Make a parody of this video where you make the same arguments for quartz: 1. History - quartz made mechanical watches history 2. craftsmanship - rocks can tell time if we cut them a certain way 3. connection - the way of the future is batteries. Wear one on you. 4. convenience - they don't make an abacus watch do they? 5. style - most fashion watches are quartz.

[@PerthWAtch]

That might be fun but I stuck with sincerity. Check out my video on why wear quartz if you wish ;)

[@joelfell1559]

Great video mate

[@PerthWAtch]

Thanks 👍

[@thematrix2783]

Mechanical watches are alive .

[@PerthWAtch]

Some definitely feel that!

[@13noman1]

I've only recently moved over to an automatic watch (Orient Ray II -- a price effective start!) and realized there's an additional reason for automatics -- they're rather environmentally friendly! No batteries for replacement. Not sure about the miniscule amounts of oils needed at infrequent service intervals and how that compares to, say, an Eco-Drive but they definitely boost one's "green cred".

[@PerthWAtch]

Yeah fair point, not a facet that I've thought about before actually! Thanks for sharing :)

[@Aman3252]

I like automatic watch cause it feel like a type of mechanical life-form. It also can be inherited from my father, to me to my son and grandchildren.... Automatic watch is the pinnacle of human technology in mechanical machine before the era of digital...

[@PerthWAtch]

Fair points - it can be inherited and passed on if it's well made. If it's a shonky Chinese movement, be happy if you get a few years before it disintegrates :)

[@brianhinder3652]

Playing the Devil's advocate here Ivan but I am often amused by people who agree with your premise but don't own a watch with even a display back eg. Rolex owners. They claim to enjoy the craftsmanship, the beating heart, et al, but never get to really see what they have paid for. I have 5 skeleton and 2 open-heart watches so at least I can admire while wearing. Display backs are decidedly second-best. Obviously the watch needs to be removed to enjoy the the view. The interdependence between owner and mechanical (manual wind) is best noted by the routine ritual of winding the watch. A most satisfying daily event made all the inviting if one can actually see the gears move.

[@PerthWAtch]

Thanks Brian - always good to hear from you! I guess of the 5 points I picked out, only *Craftsmanship* requires movement visibility to be fully appreciated... with the other factors not being diminished by the movement being hidden. Don't get me wrong though, I do LOVE to be able to see the movement for sure, some are just so beautiful... but I guess even if it's hidden, I still derive plenty out of an automatic or mechanical piece :)

[@azharkazi7299]

Appreciated the reason quoted by you for automatic watches...Helped me a lot as I am planning to buy my first automatic watch.... Just curious to know the watch you are wearing on your wrist

[@PerthWAtch]

Thanks for that - as for what watch I am wearing, please watch the video as I mention it in there 1:56

[@champagnejunior]

i use gwg-1000 and gpr-b1000 solar power some fonction and time set on atomic clock

[@PerthWAtch]

I use a GWG-1000 also - do check out my video on why wear quartz if you haven’t already ;)

[@jeffreymelville2044]

Seiko has put a clear case back on the 9f , and only craftsmen put the 9f together as it only available in the Grand Seiko line.

[@PerthWAtch]

Thanks for sharing that :)

[@invoker638]

Another one reason : EMP proof

[@PerthWAtch]

Haha good one!

[@hb9145]

True, but telling accurate time would probably be the least of your worries. ;)

[@scoobyvenom]

Which is better mechanical or automatic...do mechanical use tourbillon?

[@PerthWAtch]

Automatic refers to a mechanical watch which is self-winding (usually with a weighted rotor). Tourbillon is a mechanical complication. So... I'm not really sure what you're asking!

[@lkkjhtemmexv1838]

MECHNAIC WATCHES ARE NOT FOR POOR PEOPLE. 1ST. THY NEED MAINTENACE, AND ITS NOT CHEAP. 2ND WHEN THEY NEED REPAIR, REPAIRS AN BE VERY EXPENSIVE. WITH THE MONEY OF A REPAIR YOU CAN BUY A NEW WATHC QUARTZ. SO, MECHNICS ARE NOT FOR POOR PEOPLE.

[@PerthWAtch]

Fair thoughts there - I am interested in what you mean by "poor"? There are reputable mechanical watches starting at $50 these days, yes more expensive than quartz but quite affordable. Maintenance is debatable, as I have had many watches run for more than 10 years with zero maintenance... contrast that with quartz which you will have to replace battery every few years. Also the issue with repair goes the same for quartz does it not? They can be expensive and if a cheap quartz needs a repair... well you would just buy a new one. Good points for discussion! Cheers, Ivan.

[@hb9145]

A Vostok is like 75 USD, and has a recommended service interval of 10 years. That's 7.50 USD per year. Then sell it cheap or give it away to someone who service them as a hobby, and they'll be used for decades.

[@mal7753]

Nice info man ...thank you

[@PerthWAtch]

Most welcome! :)

[@mal7753]

Perth WAtch. Which brand aoutomatic watches R u good ? Price

[@PerthWAtch]

At that price range I'd say start with a good Japanese auto, Seiko or Orient. Chinese are getting better but the Japanese are still ahead.

[@mal7753]

Perth WAtch thank you so much ...keep up !

[@cooper65]

I can summarize it to one character: mechanical watches has soul!

[@PerthWAtch]

Well summarized! :)

[@PerthWAtch]

Nah, it's just one mate... everyone knows you don't get two souls into one case ;)

[@PerthWAtch]

It's a mystery for sure... for example astromechs are also mass produced but many would say R2 has a soul, although it cannot be proven definitively!

[@PerthWAtch]

But mechanical watches have a beating heart, like living being. Quartz watches are quiet, cold and silent, like a Terminator :)

[@PerthWAtch]

Yes and no. Thanks for expressing your view BassVentura. I will try to explain part of the perspective from the bunch of us you consider "silly". Yes a heart needs an electrical conducting system to function properly... however a heart is a physical pump, transferring energy to the blood and driving it forward to flow around the body. An escapement "beats" with perceptible movement (not so a quartz crystal) and transfers energy from the mainspring to the gears, driving the watch. A mechanical watch must work this way, whereas a digital quartz can achieve timekeeping display with no perceptible movement of parts. No analogy is perfect of course, and deep enough analysis will make it fall apart, but this is part of why many feel mechanical watches are more alive/organic/have soul as compared to quartz.

[@sylviayan5261]

Need your kind advice. I have a new automatic watch but I don't wear it that often. Should I leave it to power down or should I wind it daily?

[@PerthWAtch]

I would let watches run down if I was not wearing it, but it also depends on whether I know when the next wear will be.

[@sylviayan5261]

@@PerthWAtch thank you

[@grant9908]

Pretty surprised you didn't hit on the fact that it's EMP proof. It'll still work after a rogue solar flair or EMP strike.

[@PerthWAtch]

How interesting... I actually wasn't sure about that effect. Mechanical watches can of course be magnetised and thereafter become inaccurate to the point of uselessness... I wasn't sure if an EMP would result in that.

[@grant9908]

@@PerthWAtch to magnetise anything takes time and exposure to magnetism. An EMP is just a quick momentary thing. Less than a second.

[@PerthWAtch]

Thank you - good to know!

[@Diepvries11]

Ah yes. The property of mechanical watches that everyone needs... If an emp strike hits, my watch is the least of my worries.

[@grant9908]

@@Diepvries11 lol. Don't underestimate the power of small creature comforts in an extreme emergency. When things get extra bad, you start becoming very grateful for tiny things.

[@teamhonn]

I think one issue is that automatic can be fixed and passed on while quartz have a life cycle and can't be fixed. Something to consider when buying high end quartz watches to pass on.

[@PerthWAtch]

Great thought... would have to agree it's a certainly a truth about automatics! The "high end" of quartz with solar technology etc remains untested beyond a generation... would be of interest to see how some pieces turn out with time.

[@teamhonn]

This actually came from Rich over at whatsonthewritst. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jaDFhJSPd7pkbqs Interesting video on high end quartz watches.

[@PerthWAtch]

Interesting video, just watched it - thanks for the share!

[@72bangsat]

Garmin Fenix 3 is also keep an acurate time

[@PerthWAtch]

Yep that would be an electronic quartz price with atomic time sync abilities - should be dead accurate for sure!

[@fkkggkkfdsadsa111]

service price is higher and manufacturers are not guarantied the accuray after used 2 year

[@PerthWAtch]

Depends... I got an automatic that's 30 years old and never serviced, still runs at +4 sec/day.

[@fkkggkkfdsadsa111]

@@PerthWAtch yes.good.I get swatch quartz that using since 8 year with only battery changing and price was 50 dollar and yours?

[@PerthWAtch]

Yes, good. You go happy with your Swatch quartz, you have to pay someone to take it from you. Mine worth $8k more than I paid for it now ;)

[@fkkggkkfdsadsa111]

@@PerthWAtch it is still working!! what is reason for selling?

[@PerthWAtch]

@@fkkggkkfdsadsa111 Very well, thank you ;)