Top 5 Worst Mini-Games in Video Games

[@McBehrer]

Right away, the list is invalidated. Not because Big The Cat's fishing is *good* -- it's absolutely atrocious -- but because it's *not a minigame.* It's the MAIN QUEST

[@RedheadButNotReally]

How many people don't know that you have to tap down on the control stick when Froggy grabs the lure? Reply to me. I'm curious.

[@LuccianoBartolini]

@@RedheadButNotReally Good question, I thought it was common sense

[@McBehrer]

@@RedheadButNotReally even if you do, it's still completely inconsistent whether he actually decides to grab it or not

[@jordanhunter3375]

Buy my book. -Big the Cat, TRG's Sonic Adventure LP

[@kijukitten]

@@RedheadButNotReally wait not up? (have not played in years) up makes more sense

[@karmicrespite5737]

Speaking of Sonic and mini-games, "Top X creature raising minigames/sims" might be an interesting one. The Chao gardens should not be as good as they were.

[@erainmartinez8175]

I agree this is so f#cking stupid 6:45 really dumb

[@erainmartinez8175]

I don't blame you it's the worst mini-game in the Mario Party series 14:40

[@tanandalynch9441]

I loved the chaos gardens. Plus how you treated your chaos determined their placement. I had a ghost one ones

[@danielturner1891]

How can Blitzball be on here when that Chocobo race mini game also existed. Blitzball was pretty fun for me. But the race was BS.

[@AloisAgos]

Crazy enough with the scorpion game, SUDA51 actually brought the game back for NM2 and it was the only one not done in 16bit style. You just KNOW he was deliberately trolling players at that point.

[@arkdetective]

He actually was. I don't remember where, but he said the whole point of the mini-games was to mess with the player since Travis is an average guy with no money really, so the jobs are terrible and tedious on purpose so that when you got to the next assassin, you would get excited, and then immediately get crushed when you see the fees increase after, essentially to simulate an average person's life. Doing something you essentially tolerate and occasionally have a fun time, then back to the daily grind to repeat the cycle.

[@Jeppo1457]

Top 5 games with good voice acting, top 5 characters you love to hate, Top 5 gaming crushes, Top 5 characters RabbidLuigi would punch in the face

[@kieranstark7213]

*Predictions for which games will be on these lists* Top 5 Games With Good Voice Acting: Pac-Man World trilogy (or at least the sequels because of how strongly different (if for the worse even though PMW1&2 are some of the most underrated games alongside Crash of the Titans) Ms. Pac-Man’s voice was in PMW1 compared to PMW3 (say what you want about this game. But at least it has underrated voice acting that keeps it away from being completely worthless!) Top 5 Characters You Love to Hate: Gruntilda (Banjo Kazooie & Tooie) Top 5 Characters RL Would Punch in the Face: Almost everyone from Nickelodeon

[@thegreatgonzales6813]

Ooo, I really like the "love to hate" one, I can think of so many good characters that fit that role: Gruntilda (like Kieran said), Handsome Jack, GLaDOS, Monokuma, Kefka, Andrew Ryan, Vaas, Blue (from Pokemon Gen 1), Micah Bell, Dr. Bumby, William Carver.

[@alansmithee3183]

"Top 5 games with good voice acting" TF2 needs to be on that list. As for an actual list from Rabbid, a Naughty Dog game would probably be there.

[@tristanbowles7258]

@@alansmithee3183 allow me to throw in Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentina

[@ninjamimealt]

I'd love to see the punch in the face one. We've all got those NPCs who just grind our gears and drive us to violence

[@ShadianVise]

Arin's meltdown over Big's fishing is one of the all time great GG moments

[@jakobkleeman6705]

Like it, need it, want it, have it, WHY

[@Ovodithael]

Hearing that music at the beginning of the segment activated a fight or flight response in me

[@mysticmind4563]

Mine was the "Beautiful little moment."

[@RedheadButNotReally]

Big the Cat's story in SA1 becomes a whole lot more tolerable once you realize that you have to tap down on the control stick when Froggy latches onto the lure. ;)

[@Magile]

Ya Its actually extremely easy and honestly kinda fun once you get it down. Real miss on this list IMO

[@absollum]

Sounds great, unless you're playing the DX port. I've been close to reeling in Froggy, and then the game glitches resets all my progress.

[@amirgarcia547]

It still doesn’t made the levels any less boring to sit through, unfortunately.

[@osayers4291]

I think the real problem is that it doesn't do anything to tell you this so unless you look it up you have no way of knowing.

[@DiabolikalRA]

The only time I felt blitzball was random luck was during the mandatory matches. When you're playing the league the whole season felt majority skill based, like any other well made sports game. Those mandatory bouts nearly put me off it until I decided to give the game a second chance.

[@dragames]

there's a + - 20% variation potential, this was in place originally to help underdogs get 'lucky'. Granted, you get the right people in blitzball and that 20% won't matter.

[@scootaluigi9381]

Goron Dancing in Zelda: Oracle of Ages still gives me headaches

[@saint-and-sinner]

Tiger! Tiger! in XC2 has infuriated me so much that I pray for the extinction of sharks and sea turtles, had it not been for treating Tora like my son I would completely ignore it

[@aperson6505]

Agreed. Big fan of the Xenoblade games but Tiger! Tiger! is evil

[@cyrushalberd624]

The Scorpion Extermination minigame from the original No More Heroes is so infamous, that the sequel Desperate Struggle that largely switches to 8-bit/16-bit visual style minigames brings back Scorpion Extermination and ONLY Scorpion Extermination from the first game just to screw with people.

[@CrasherX2000]

Someone must’ve REALLY upset Suda51 during development…

[@wombleking]

Blitzball is like Marmite. I love it but I can totally understand why so many people don't.

[@Cyberbrickmaster1986]

I personally prefer Vegemite, because I'm Australian. But pretty much no one speaks kindly about Promite.

[@superspider64]

Wait they kept the control stick spinning aspect of the minigame in the remake!? They could've just changed it to a fuckin' button mash if they wanted to avoid it!

[@appelofdoom8211]

Or just not bring them back. it's not like they have a particularly impressive concept or a legion of fans awaiting their return

[@paulgibbs]

The idea that blitzball can't have any strategy is lost on me. Do people not realise you can set the control to manual and actually control tye ball handler yourself.

[@DivineNaruto]

Its kinda wild how bad dudes are at blitzball and blame the game.

[@paulgibbs]

@@DivineNaruto Couldn't agree more

[@jimllc]

Once I realized that the game is exploitable as all hell and requires a modicum of strategy to plan points and time management, it actually became fun.

[@appelofdoom8211]

I get that it can be really difficult to get into but just try to get into it before writing it off and if you want a bad final fantasy minigame to put on here just go with tetra master (for something more convoluted than blitzball and also pointless) or lightning dodging (if you want to pick a minigame to hate from ff10)

[@jvts8916]

It's not on the level of Tug of War, but the Puzzle Boy sidequest from SMT Nocturne is one of the most tedious yet frustrating minigames I've ever played. On the surface, it doesn't sound so bad. You're playing an in-universe videogame owned by a little boy who dares you to beat it. It's twenty levels of controlling a Pyro Jack to do block pushing puzzles. That doesn't sound too bad, but not only do all twenty levels have the same music, you need to beat them all in one sitting if you want one of the magatamas. Speaking of the magatamas, they're an outside factor that greatly affects the feelings of players on this minigame. If you want to obtain Masakados Magatama, the best one in the game, you need to obtain all the previous ones. Including the one related to the Puzzle Boy sidequest. This means that if you want your best piece of equipment, you'll have to slog through this minigame in one go. As a result, it's easy to view it as pointless tasks on your way to min-max that have nothing to do with the combat system you're here for. The worst part is that New Game + doesn't preserve your magatamas or your levels, so every time you want Masakados Magatama for one of the routes, you have to put up with it all over again.

[@riemaennchen]

Oh yeah I remember that one. The one time I did that I tagged in and out with a friend of mine. I did a couple of levels, then he did a few and then I went again. If one of us had to all of them the other one probably would not have survived that day.^^

[@amirgarcia547]

That minigame is at least entirely optional unless you’re trying to get the Masakados Magatama, but if you are…welp, god bless your soul…

[@sswishbone]

I did two live streams combined trying to beat it without a guide which total something like 8.5 hours. I finally did it on the follow up third part. Absolute torture, great idea and really fun as a concept... But no Checkpoints?! Fuck that

[@TheBlackSeraph]

Replayed SMT3 last year, and while I beat Puzzle Boy with little difficulty the first time I played it, I had to resort to a walkthrough for two levels because the repetitive music at 2am was causing my brains to dribble out my ears. Definitely worth it because Masakados makes you immune to everything but Almighty, but a checkpoint would have been welcome.

[@silentkill450]

As for the big the cat segment, the frog hops off your line randomly because you’re supposed to move the control stick left and right once it latches on and it work 100% of the time. As someone who doesn’t think it’s as bad everyone say it is, I do think that the big stages suffer from being a massive pace breaker and you have to go out of your way to find the instructions in the game’s options to find out about the control stick trick, the game doesn’t tell you that through normal gameplay.

[@garuelx8627]

If you take the time to learn Blitzball, it can actually be fun. Also a maxed out Wakka is definitely worth it. As for the original Mario Party, I like to nickname it Stigmata Simulator 64

[@wanderlustwarrior]

As soon as the Blitzball music kicked in, I was so happy to disagree with Rabbid Luigi. And then the NMH music kicked in, and yeah, the minigames aren't as good as the "Hustlin' and Tusslin'" music. So much of this list had iconic music.

[@faerieknight2298]

I'm one of those who do enjoy Blitz Ball in FFX. In fact, I have sunk hundreds of hours into it over the years. Aside from it being required for Wakka's ultimate weapon, it's a quirky and fun (in my opinion) side activity. Yeah, it has it's jank. But I still find it to be fun.

[@justingilliland360]

Puyo from judgment deserves to be on here. Beating all the challenges is one of the hardest things I’ve ever done in a video game, genuinely felt rigged at times

[@tomatooverlord2764]

Puyo isn't a minigame, though. It's an actual, entirely separate game that they stuck into Judgement, just like Virtua Fighter or Space Harrier were in the main Yakuza series.

[@Kefkaesque13]

8:23 Imma have to stop you right there. Sure it's no Triple Triad, but Blitizball is easily one of the go to examples of a _good_ minigame (especially when compared to all of FFX and FFX-2's other minigames)

[@deathseraph3]

I'm not sure why blitzball is so polarizing. I have fun with it. And most importantly it isn't that chocobo crap in the same game or the lightning dodging. You can actually learn how to play blitzball better. Those birds and balloons? No.

[@appelofdoom8211]

especially when reaking lightning dodging to is right there

[@AluminumFusion22]

​@@deathseraph3I think it's polarizing because the narrative focuses on it and requires the player to play through it and they may not care about the stats of the Besaid Aurochs or the mini-game in general. Its placement in the narrative makes sense, but it should've been a cutscene instead of a drawn-out mini-game the player has to sit through and it has no bearing on the overall plot.

[@krimsonkatt]

The voice based minigames in Mario Party Island Tour are WAY worse than tug of war. They're so bad that the devs even added an option in every mode to take them completely out of the rotation!

[@blackwingtfd]

Ruined palm or raspy voice… pick ya favorite flavor of poison I guess lol XD Also a bit off topic, but I’m loving your ambition for your game series!

[@thinkaman22]

This list just confuses me. Big's fishing isn't a minigame, its literally his control style. No one calls Knuckles's treasure hunting a mini game, no one calls Gamma's stages mini games, why is Big here And also Blitzball was super fun, if you wanted to draw on FFX the lightening dodge was right there and was way worse.

[@appelofdoom8211]

or ff9's tetramaster if you want something more meaty than press button to dodge lightning. Seriously I don't get what's so bad with blitzball

[@AluminumFusion22]

I agree completely. The fact that he said the Blitzball mini-game was more well thought-out than the game actually makes me mad, because it says how bad he thinks FFX is if the mini-game is still on this list.

[@MrSentinel07]

I really don't think Blitzball is that bad. Yes, it's not the most intuitive, and you got to wait until you get better player options since the Aurochs are mostly garbage, but I thought it was decent once it hit its stride. By the way, don't think I didn't catch that dig at FFX's story. I thought it was a very good story.

[@TheBlackSeraph]

I tend to beat Blitzball with just the Aurochs (and Wakka/Tidus) - you'll suffer losses at early levels, but after that, an Aurochs only team isn't that hard.

[@AluminumFusion22]

I thought the same exact thing. You're allowed to not like FFX, but don't try to passively say the game is garbage if you're not gonna be up-front about it. I like his content, but he probably still thinks the Tidus Laughing moment was bad acting instead of a depressing moment partially played for laughs.

[@sswishbone]

You missed an absolute sitter here... "Improved Hangman's Gambit" from Danganronpa 2; Goodbye Despair.

[@Arthur2light]

Nice shout out to Dark cloud 2 at the start.

[@randomstuff-qu7sh]

I absolutely sucked at the blitzball minigame. When I did an online search to see if there was any way to win, people had entire guides on it. I guess the way to be less bad is to recruit players from places you travel to during the game so you'll have the best team. I don't really get the appeal, but can understand why some folk would find it fun.

[@dusklunistheumbreon]

The biggest tip I have for it is to get Wedge right after the first match. He's fucking OP as hell for the first 20-30 levels, and eventually transitions into the game's best goalie. Brother is fast as fuck when you can get him (although that takes a while in the story). Nimrook starts off signed to a team, but his team can also drop him, and if you get him you'll never lose another game again.

[@digitaldeathsquid3448]

I've only played Mario Party 8. My least favourite two minigames in that are Seriously Sick And Twisted for being too long and too RNG, and Cut From The Team for being a crapshoot

[@DetectiveJones]

Fun fact I randomly remembered after hearing him describe why Sonics fishing isnt really fishing "Phrogging" is where someone lives inside of another persons house without that person knowing, different to squatting which is more living in an abandoned or empty house, phrogging is where someone is living in your house while you are living in there...Totally not what Im trying to base a game off of

[@deathseraph3]

So you mentioned blitzball, but not the other, worse minigames in the same game. I'd rather play a minigame that I know I can influence over a minigame that can sometimes spawn a bird right on top of you or the frustration of dodging lightning 200 times

[@0PercentImagination]

Honestly the real minigame in FFX was more the finding, recruiting and leveling up powerful team members than the sport itself. Can't remember a match I won that wasn't just technique spamming.

[@TheBlackSeraph]

I can understand why not everyone loves Blitzball, but if you think that an optional (and easily exploitable) pseudo-sport is worse than Final Fantasy X's abysmal chocobo racing sidequest then you're just plain wrong. I would also argue that dodging 300 lightning bolts is also infinitely worse. Those two games basically prevent me from getting (or even wanting to get) Tidus' or Lulu's ultimate weapons powered up.

[@MrWhygodwhy]

@@TheBlackSeraph I suppose a major difference is that I don't ever feel compelled to play those mini games since I am not going for 100% completion. You kinda need to play Blitzball throughout the game if you want Wakka to be a decent party member on a normal playthrough. It is optional but encouraged, where the others are optional and easily ignored.

[@strombada]

@@MrWhygodwhy you don't need to play Blitzball to make Wakka a decent party member. Attack Reels is only necessary to put out tons of damage in one attack, but it's by no means necessary when Quick Hit exists.

[@dusklunistheumbreon]

FYI - it's 200 bolts, not 300. And it's actually fairly easy to cheat - there's a specific crater that *always* spawns a lightning bolt when you enter it. Put on a no encounters armor, then just walk in and out of that crater. It being predictable makes it MUCH easier

[@StormSnakeMG]

Blitzball? BLITZBALL?! REALLY. NOT EVEN X-2'S WORSE VERSION? I'm actually tilted. Blitzball is fun, fight me.

[@mr.e9502]

Bruh, Pedal Power from Mario Party was the biggest pain, mostly because you suffered ALONE.

[@BigBoss15310]

LOVE the Blitzball music; hate the mini game with a passion.

[@criticalmass7841]

Blitzball is fine, you aren't required to win when it comes up. Love it myself

[@DarttheLegend]

Blitzball is really fantastic, it's extremely fun, and I OFTEN boot up ff10 just to play Blitzball. Furthermore, FF10 is like the second best Final Fantasy ever made, having played all of them. Great game, BEST minigame.

[@Cool70sfreak]

The best one being IX of course 😏No I'm not kidding. But yeah, hard agree. I guess I can see why it's off-putting to people but honestly, if you put even a bit of effort into getting good at blitzball and adding good BB players to your team, it can be a lot of fun. Also damn, Rabbid really dissed X's story and gameplay? Are we talking about the same game here?

[@TheBlackSeraph]

@@Cool70sfreak I love FFX's game world, characters and mechanics, but I felt it was a downward step from FF6/FF7/FF8/FF9 in most regards.

[@Cool70sfreak]

A downward step how, exactly? No I'm being serious, I legitimately want to know what you felt was a step back as far as the game goes.

[@TheBlackSeraph]

@@Cool70sfreak The game was clearly designed to be a character study especially between Tidus' and Yuna's romance and the nature of faith in the world. But Tidus is a bit of an idiot, and not just because of the whole "fish out of water" thang, so I found him a bit harder to relate to. The world building was also a tad too ambitious, as you had to accept that a world where most of the world's small population lived in basic huts could sustain a pseudo-modern city with a massive stadium (and that said coastal city is able to survive in a world revolving around Sin). You also had to accept that the Yevonites, who openly use forbidden machina weapons in their temple city could have lasted as long as it has without causing a public crisis of faith. You also have the issue of FFX's game world being very linear in nature to accommodate the Summoner's pilgrimage, but feels unnatural outside of this context. Compare this to, say, FF7 whose game world and mechanics revolve around the concept of technologising magic and mix elements of environmentalism and cyberpunk-style economic class warfare. Magic and skills revolved around materia, which was deemed a necessary evil by Avalanche, rather than based on a traditional job system which few people in that post-modern world would have.

[@AluminumFusion22]

​@@TheBlackSeraphThe civilization living in huts is a intentional decision by Yevonites who believe that if they become too advanced, Yevon will send Sin to destroy their cities again. Wakka explains it to Tidus early on in the game. The Al Bhed relying on machines and having not been wiped out by Sin is definitely a problem, though.

[@dragames]

Sorry, I really love blitzball. I love the rpg sports aspect of it, even if the random chance fail is kinda meh. At least it's not TETRA MASTER levels bad for randomness plus, you can completely trivialize the game with the right people to get all the stuff you want. Zev ronso, Shaami, Naida are all you really need, but even then getting a good goalie can help. But, Zev ronso wither pass 3 lets him level up extremely fast, Shaami gets ridiculous end/shoot for a forward so she's great at putting in the goal and Naida is a really stellar blocker. And all are super easy to get and you won't really want to trade them out (maaaybe Zev if you play past level 70...) And always always always keep one person (or maybe even two) meant to be low level on your team. Always. So the average level drops for the enemy.

[@DannyBenS94]

Haven't finished the video yet with this comment, just wanted to say the Big story in SA1 can be finished very quickly if you hold whatever game stick you're using back and reel in Froggy carefully...that doesn't mean it's good, just saying it's not quite as luck based as we all thought.

[@DannyBenS94]

Now that I've finished the video... I just wanted to say the Big story in SA1 can be finished very quickly if you hold whatever game stick you're using back and reel in Froggy carefully...that doesn't mean it's good, just saying it's not quite as luck based as we all thought...also you mean you didn't have lots of finny finny fun when playing the KH2 Little Mermaid rhythm game? Lol

[@JAnne_Bonne]

I feel like the whole thing with Big wouldn't be an issue if the game taught you how to _set the hook_

[@tailsprower8118]

Hold down to hook Froggy…that’s it, that’s all you do

[@JAnne_Bonne]

Holy crap. Seeing Spheda from Dark Cloud 2 before the list even _starts_ brings back memories of that awkward ass golf minigame.

[@averagesocaldriving3671]

I love that game! I actually got 100% on it. So I've done the Spheda on every single level 0.0 It took well over 130 hours

[@heyindiegamer7831]

It will be actually interesting if you can make a Top 5 Best (or worst) Fishing Games

[@mrsejanoz523]

The SECOND I heard the music for #5 I cracked up - I've watched the Game Grumps fish for that damn frog WAYYYY too many times.

[@K4RN4GE911]

"Reminds me of the days I was fishing with Pa!" "What, a detuned slide guitar???"

[@actionreplay2165]

I’m with you That little mermaid, play along, rhythm dance mini game bullshit almost made me hate that level And hate is a strong word That whole section destroyed the momentum -if any- the game had at that point and made me just hate myself for wanting to play a half assed version of a game and a favorite movie

[@thefrogger6507]

K now we need the 5 BEST minigames. Hard mode - no fishing because fishing minigames slap

[@krimsonkatt]

The best fishing minigame is in Stardew Valley. Sort, simple, sweet, and not overly frusterating while not being easy either. Wish more games would do that style of fishing minigame rather than a Zelda OoT or BoF2 styled one.

[@rpgfan1187]

Top Five Video Game Ship Levels Examples: - Supertanker (Deus Ex) - Sandship (The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword) - Cruiser of Pride (Persona 5) - The Devil Flies by Night (Castlevania: Rondo of Blood) - Crew Expendable (Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare) - Daisy Cruiser (Mario Kart: Double Dash!!) - Atherum (Tales of Vesperia) - Ship Graveyard (Final Fantasy V) - Rattle Battle (Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest) - Dead Ahead (Hotline Miami 2: Wrong Number) - Sink or Swim (Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception) - The Ghost Ship (MediEvil) - Stage 5 (Streets of Rage 2)

[@somebodynowhere]

I enjoyed blitzball, but once you had the numbers on your side via leveling or recruiting it became too easy and if it wasn't offering the reward you want it could feel fairly tedious

[@Sabarok]

I'm surprised you picked Blitzball. FFX is an amazing game, but it has a lot of absolutely awful mini-games to choose from. Some people do enjoy Blitzball (I do), but I think nobody enjoys the chocobo dodger minigame. Blitzball does have a lot of RNG, but once you figure out the mechanics, it's really easy to win, and it's incredibly easy to absolutely break the game and make it trivially easy. I don't disagree with you picking it as a bad minigame, though I think you should have included that it's required to get an ultimate weapon and the overdrives, and you have to play a LOT of blitzball to get it. Even though I liked Blitzball, I didn't like it enough to not get dreadfully bored trying to get those prizes.

[@destroyerkitty9434]

You can really call KH2’s Atlantica a bad rhythm game when we actually have a good KH rhythm game.

[@kryskiller666]

Huh. I had plenty of fun with Blitzball... On FFX. On FFX-2 it felt so FUCKING BORING. But I guess I like it because it's a nice thing to have while chilling the fuck out, as it doesn't require much brain power and FFX does have plenty of minigames, some of them way worse (Like dodging lightning 100 fucking times).

[@skspawn]

Unpopular opinion: Big's gameplay is perfectly fine and overly hated

[@Hightower2804TP]

I could've made this list all about Final Fantasy X alone. Which says a lot. Blitzball, Chocobo races, Chocobo training, Butterfly hunts, Lighning dodging.......

[@LittleZbot]

This was actually a bit contentious upon release for a rather unique reason. At the time this was released, the Venom comic series was in the middle of a mega-arc where the Avengers fought against Knull. Knull was/is one of the most powerful Marvel villains ever, and Venom had absorbed a bunch of codexes to help defeat him. These made him crazy powerful, like planet-busting powerful or even greater. There was a lot of discourse over whether or not Death Battle should have included this. They explained in their podcast that they chose not to include it because, essentially, these sorts of power-ups happen a lot and are almost never permanent. In this case, they were right; Venom went back to normal power before the battle with Knull had even ended. There are some panels being fed to the casual crowd of Venom beating Knull within an inch of his life, but that was actually Captain Universe (who is, well, a superhero universe) taking the appearance of Venom for intentionally ironic reasons. Eddie Brock became the King of Symbiotes later, but the Venom Symbiote went off on his own adventures, and Eddie's title didn't come with any new physical powers either, just some more Symbiote mind shenanigans. Death Battle made the right call.

[@Sir_Uncle_Ned]

As soon as I heard those few notes, I was kicked back to when the game grumps were struggling with this. Some of their finest rage came from this. “JUST TAKE THE LURE!!!”

[@seanpaul3362]

What's funny is that kingdom hearts would do a rhythm game that's actually good with melody of memories.

[@amirgarcia547]

I’d say including Big’s levels from SA1 is a bit of a stretch since it’s less of a minigame and more of just the general gameplay of Big’s entire campaign…but eh, you do you. Even when you figure out how to reel in Froggy, the main problem is that in a platformer that focuses on speed like Sonic, it’s a big pacebreaker and is nothing but a boring slog. I’m here to go fast and zip through levels, not play Sega Bass Fishing, and these levels are definitely the lowest point of an otherwise solid game.

[@LeonSteamhawk]

I'd love to see a 5 Best Minigames to follow-up this one, if you haven't done it yet. While a lot of minigames take away from the main game, some are just as good if not better.

[@hokutology1718]

Chocobo Hot and Cold, just brilliance all round.

[@TR1PLE_6]

0:58 - Ah yes, that one mini-game where I'm yelling "GET IN THE FUCKING HOLE" at the TV!

[@EntameWitchLulu]

I'm adding "spicy tails that inject sadness into your veins" to my regular vocabulary now. No idea how often I'll be able to whip that one out but I will keep it filed away

[@Xackadee]

Ah yes, I remember I was in the middle of my first playthrough of Final Fantasy X a few years ago. I should really get back to it someday. I was doing so well with it until Blitzball came along.

[@wcamicase_gaming]

Dude.. Blitzball was dope, when you get a good team and know what're you're doing, you can actually have a good time.

[@NinjaKIngAce]

If I remember right, there is a trick to catching fish, in Big the cat's gameplay, but I don't remember it off the top of my head. I do know that the game never explains it, you have to either figure it out on your own or get very lucky

[@joshrose8753]

OKAY, my DEFENSE for my like of Number 3. I look at the world through Rose Tinted Glasses. I always try to look through and see the positives more than the negatives. The minigame in question... Takes a LONG ass time out of the game. It's a JRPG where the minigame in question, if you're aiming for your ultimate weapons, can take you TENS TO HUNDREDS OF HOURS added onto your timer, if you want to go through with it. And I genuinely enjoy smoking teams as I get better and better. The downside is yes, it's tedious, repetitive, and matches take way too damn long... 10 minutes PLUS prep time...

[@khodexus4963]

Some people want a standalone Blitzball game not because the original minigame wasn't flawed, but because what we see of it in the cut scenes looks like it could be alot of fun if given a full game treatment. Also, you did almost of the top 10 BEST mini games 6 years ago and included Blitzball on there as well. Not very consistent of you.

[@dianamerchant1026]

Dear lord the dance bit in GTA San Andreas. I think my husband still has ptsd from that level. Yeah snooty snooty bang bang then let’s do a complicated dance scene. Rob’s like wtf!😂

[@Merricat_likesu]

Twisted Metal Head-On! had most of its unlockable cars and levels hidden behind mini games, most were forgettable but simple enough to just finish and forget about, but the Greece level featured a decently sized platforming level…in a game that is famous for having slippery fast handling that makes it difficult to stop instantly….it was legitimately one of the most annoying experiences I’ve ever had as a human

[@wariodude128]

Heard people complain about the golf minigame in Wario Land 3, to which I say git gud son. That said, the reward for getting the eight large musical coins in each level is a red cloud course in the area of the game where you can play through different coloured courses provided you have the coin and found the crayons that let you open it. My advice? Beat the final boss again, get to the end and make Wario giving you two thumbs up while a jaunty tune plays and the word PERFECT! hovers above be the reward for all your hard work.

[@Wiimeiser]

5. It was so bad that a video on remaking Sonic Adventure completely threw it out and changed Big to be closer to the rest of the cast. 4. What's funny is the underwater controls in the first game were so bad that the developers decided _this_ was better. 3. Why is it even underwater? 2. Why do these even exist? Shoehorned-in Wii controls? 1. Fun fact: It's actually physically impossible to beat Pedal Power with just your thumb.

[@MangusMangoman]

Blitzball is an obtuse minigame a little hard to understand at first, but once you put it on manual and understand it's more an RPG+manager minigame than a sports one it gets really fun. I wish they put more effort into it, tho, Jetch shot is completly broken and it is not fun how the randomizing prizes makes a lottery of getting Wakka's best weapon

[@jypsridic]

Blitzball is boring but it certainly is not random. Once you understand it it becomes 100% predictable, and that prediction is 'my guys score every time they shoot from anywhere in the sphere then I can just chill behind my goalie while I do something else in the room waiting for the clock'

[@cliftonchurch6039]

I'm old enough to have played Mario Party 1 at release in high school, and was one that got blisters from those joystick rotation games. I think having one or two sole examples of that mechanic are required for the "retro remastered" experience Superstars was going for. You have to pay homage, just don't have it come up as commonly as other games.

[@CybeastID]

Nintendo got *sued* over that mechanic and lost. So no.

[@MrMariosonicman]

@@CybeastID honestly the worst problem of the minigame was for the system it was designed on, if that minigame and its rotation controls existed on gamecube there probably wouldnt of been a lawsuit since a gamecube control stick is alot more comfortable/soft then the hard plastic of an N64 stick.

[@HugoPegler]

I think pretty much everyone can agree that Scorpion Extermination is the worst side job in No More Heroes, so naturally, it was the only side job brought back for the sequel I know he had barely any involvement with NMH2, but if that isn't a Suda move, I don't know what is

[@endborg]

Big's fishing story isn't as hard as people make it out to be, you can get froggy's attention easily and always guarantee he bites by just moving the lure with the d-pad or wasd depending on your version

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

13:05 No mention how this is the only mini-game brought back in NMH2 and still in 3D, unlike the other jobs?

[@keybladeoverlord]

Big the Cat's campaign in Sonic Adventure really shouldn't be on this list since it's a required part of the game and not a mini-game. Plus, catching Froggy is patheticly easy cuz once you get his attention and he bites the line all you have to do is press down on the control stick to hook him (or any fish for that matter) and the worst he does is occasionally fight back, which he's not very good at with him being a 500g creature unlike the 1000g and especially the 2000g fishes you have to catch for the B and A missions for Big in Sonic Adventure.

[@kiwikarp9509]

I don't remember bad minigames being that big of a deal in the games I grew up with. Only disliked a handful of the ones in Mario Party, and any game that did have a meh or bad minigame also made it optional. The only one I can remember hating was that terrible sinus minigame from Bowser's inside Story.(yes I did hate the carrot minigame like every kid who had this game, but it's really easy for me now)

[@jordanhunter3375]

Top 5/10 Catharic Bosses (not only satisfying for thr player to beat up, but also a means for (one of) the player character(s) to release themselves from a toxic situation) (e.g. either Shadow Kamoshida or Cognitive Wakaba from Persona 5)

[@PrimmsHoodCinema]

_Swim This Way_ is the worst song I ever heard in my goddamn life. They weren't even trying.

[@dogybark]

If a “best mini games” video is made, I would recommend the cabaret club mini game in Yakuza 0 or Yakuza Kiwami 2. The amount of time I’ve sunk into that weirdly addicting part of the game that isn’t required is unreal.

[@akun50]

I'm a bit sad that you missed out on Breath of Fire 3 and it's many mini-games, the worst of which are mandatory, random and overall just bad (namely the Vinegar Well, the Treasure Digging, and the 'Shisu' making). Sadly, one of my favorites is mandatory (the Salvage Pull with Garr), but because it was potentially interesting, you only get to play it once. As for fishing, I feel like it's included in a lot of games as either a way to get early money/power or intended to be a relaxing side activity for when you want to play but you don't want to progress the story.

[@superjakendo]

I definitely wanna bring up the Robotics Club mini-game from Lost Judgment. That mini-game was just…so not fun to play.

[@koemon_exe]

I love how you and Guru Larry upload at the same time each week

[@bluestreaker9242]

"Tiger! Tiger!" from Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is a personal dishonorable mention. The LAST thing I want to do for making a character stronger is play some stupid mini-game that doesn't even control all that great and reminds me just a tad too much of the Deep-sea Treasure Diving mini-game from The Legend of Zelda Phantom Hourglass. I'd also say those stupid barrel rooms from Tales Of The Abyss are also pretty...*snrk*...abysmal...though in hind-sight that's probably just me not liking sliding puzzles all that much (special mention going to Runescape which...oh boy do the high-level Treasure Trails LOVE having them! >.< )

[@necroticsynthesis4958]

Haruka's section in Yakuza 5 comes to mind. I get that the Yakuza games are full of minigames, and you occasionally have to do one for the main story. I'm not against that. But having to do the same two rhythm games ad nauseam for a few hours in a series where the main gameplay is FISTICUFFS ACTION was a pretty ballsy move that fell flat. It's not even that they're bad minigames or songs, it's just so repetitive and drawn out that after the first two times in each game you've pretty much seen it all. I respect the effort to try and give Haruka a playable part, and I did like the story, but being FORCED to do the same two minigames over and over turned what was a pretty great game into an absolutely tiring slog. I recently started replaying it and I just straight up skipped Chapter 3 to avoid it (very glad I had a save at the start of Chapter 4) At least you get to play as Shinada immediately afterward.

[@shiffpup2529]

Why is it that Tug of War gets talked about more, when PADDLE BATTLE exists and is MUCH LONGER

[@AkumaItachi]

Saying Blitzball is a bad minigame, coming from a football fan...i can't take that seriously, sorry 😄 Blitzball is really fun

[@TheBlackSeraph]

I'm not a football fan, and I enjoy it.

[@cynicalex3450]

It’s sort of funny, the mini game from ff10 that I hated the most wasn’t the blitz ball, it was the stupid chocobo riding one that was tied to the ultima weapon. I happen to be playing xenoblade 2 right now and tiger tiger is bringing back awful memories What I can’t stand about the mini games the most is when something substantial in the actual game is dependent on the performance of the mini game. It’s like fine you want to put in this nostalgic, sentimental vanity component in, that’s fine, but why ‘force’ people to play it.

[@phorchybug3286]

The painful palm crap may be faster but there could've been possibly another way, right? I mean I would just rub the control stick on the ground or reel it like a fishing rod.

[@00KiryuZero00]

Every time I start a new game in FFX I remember I gotta do the blitzball parts again and dispair

[@anasevi9456]

Being fully honest, Sonic Adventure 1/DX 'fishing' was far less of a PIA than the bad parts of any contemporaries 3D mascot games bad point. Anyone who wasn't lobotomised could figure it out and blow through it in a few minutes. Tone Deft as it was, with how hard Sega pushed fishing games on the Dreamcast; made sense why it was there. 14:10 Also, here I was thinking the ever increasing prices on N64 controllers was due to Mario 64 Speed runners, LMAO.

[@kiracaos]

It's like an old saying says: Mario Party giveth, Mario Party takeeth

[@Pooky1991]

Fishing is one of my favorite things in video games, but some games do kill it for me.

[@phantomhurricane666]

i quite enjoyed the fishing for froggy parts. plus you got bonus points for catching big fish.

[@garretthedden5743]

I heard the blitzball music and my PTSD came in full force.

[@shadowlinkbds]

Mini games in gaming can be a fun experience or a really dwelling and awful experience depending on how the mini game is structured. Sadly in my experience I encountered more of the awful ones and they're plenty of bad ones to choose in gaming.

[@JerryMcB3rry]

FFX is my favorite final fantasy game, but man I hate having to play through blitzball every playthrough. Blitzball shouldn't have been a stat based RPG type mini game and instead should have been something like super Mario strikers, you know, like the way they showcased it in the intro? I'd be down for a standalone blitzball game, so long as it's a sports games and not a crappy version of TFT

[@matthewflora5362]

I knew the Mario Party games would wind up on here. Personally, I'm always kind of annoyed at the Bibi Love rhythm game that comes out of nowhere in Dead Rising 2, both for difficulty and for the Big-Lipped Alligator Moment.

[@sushiifoxx]

haven't played a sonic game since genesis, but I damn well knew the music from the title card without a second thought ahaha. thanks arin.

[@Calvados656]

There was a segment in the original DBZ Budokai that had one of those spinning analog stick things as fast as you can to beat Raditz I think it was. Literally made my palm bleed and took nearly a month to heal fully.

[@wariodude128]

I know exactly what it was. You played as Piccolo and had to charge up the special beam cannon AKA Makankosappo. If you didn't do it fast enough, Raditz would break free of Goku's hold and you'd have to try again. If you play as Goku, you just have to move him back into the firing area while Piccolo charges it.

[@Calvados656]

@@wariodude128 Yup. That was it alright.

[@ddjsoyenby]

rabbid we appreciate your sacrifice playing blitzball and big the cat fishing for our entertainment.......so much suffering.