Top 9 biggest mysteries surrounding the Xenomorphs

[@goldenboy9192]

Xenomophs are the great Filter. This is actually genius.

[@GardeDuCoeur]

Not really, it doesn't make sense, the great Filter must emerge before the faster-than-light travel.

[@eartheater3956]

​@@GardeDuCoeuryou're right, unless they were created to become a "great filter". It would fit into the "dark forest" theory. On a side note, if these kinds of subjects are interesting to you. Check out the Three Body Problem trilogy by Cixin Liu. They are amazing.

[@glenncharles256]

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[@TheOneAndOnlySame]

Not really no. For what purpose ? What if a race expands to the whole universe? What's wrong? This whole theory is lacking a purpose Also "the great filter" hypothesis is supposed to be a passive, involuntary, step in every intelligent species' that would cause its demise. It's like : every advanced enough race Wil try to study anti matter is almost certainly fated to extinct himself the first time they succeed in creating some because nobody ever expects that this would cause a solar system wide chain reaction . Or something along those lines. Or every race advanced enough creates an AI and AIs invariably decide that exterminating organic life is best. That's it It's not supposed to be a real , voluntary , purposeful way of keeping races to advance by some external force.

[@GardeDuCoeur]

@@TheOneAndOnlySame For me, the real small filter is that a travel faster than light is impossible in our universe. Travel at XX% the light speed is good enough to conquer very slowly a galaxy, but that's all. So the great filter must arrive long before that, in my opinion, it must be at the formation of multicellular life. We can conclude that we must be the first intelligent and conscious life form in our galaxy, but not in the universe. It's just that the universe is too big and intelligent life is too rare and far too slow.

[@dragonsandsuch]

I personally like the explanation in Aliens Genocide best, in which, on their own planet they were kept on check by other predators, but were an uncontrollable invasive species when removed from their homeworld.

[@Neopolitan_Illusion]

Brooo that makes me wanna continue reading... I only git past the chapter of the man who used royal jelly as steroids

[@congnghequansuvn474]

the entire ideal of the xenomorph threating any FTL capable civilization is STUPID! Unlike the Zerg in star craft, the Arachnids in Starship trooper or the Tyranid in 40k, Xenomorph have no means of FTL by themselves and have very limited variants for an army, like artillery and air unit. And their parasitic nature actually do them no good as if one marine kill 2 xenomorph then 1 xenomorph is lost for good.

[@CoH696]

@@congnghequansuvn474 Exactly, I just don't see the possibility of them surviving against a technologically advanced civilization that decided to carry out pest control.

[@congnghequansuvn474]

@@CoH696 even with current tech, we can still destroy the Xenomorph like in Alien vs Predator Requiem

[@antibull4869]

@@congnghequansuvn474AVP Requiem also involved the dropping of our most powerful weapon to actually kill the things. That would work as a filter as well (sterilizing an infected planet also kills the civilization on said planet).

[@Ozymanzak]

Xenomorphs being the fermi paradox explanation is an idea I’ve had for years , so cool that you mention it!

[@HermitagePrepper]

In the absence of a queen, drones begin to evolve into one. The laying of an egg releases a pheremone which halts the evolution of all other xenos. All partially evolved xenos then become praetorians. This explains why praetorians increased size and royal head crests. They were on their way to becoming queens.

[@RichZ-ou8nb]

That sound kind of cool where are you referencing from?

[@Vr0689]

So they could be related to bees? That would be cool

[@maralinekozial9131]

Praetorians are basically the real actual alien drones that fuck the queen & then die afterwards!!!!! U have Hive dones like the alien from the first film that build the hive Warrior drones like the aliens from the second film that protect the hives The Praetorians that protect the queen & sperm on her ugly face & then finally u have the Queen

[@Odious_One]

@@RichZ-ou8nb That is actually from the DC comics stories called Outbreak, Nightmare Asylum, and Female War, which were canon until Disney bought the IP. There are actually Brood Mothers too which are basically the Queen of Queens in the heirarchy. They also secrete a substance called royal jelly which causes physical changes in the queens and xenos as well.

[@Odious_One]

@@Vr0689 lol no they arent related to bees. They are not related to any earth species but there are insect-based xenomorphs that can fly on some of the planets they have infested.

[@MassEffect1988]

But David didn't create the Xenomorph as we know it. The mural on the wall in Prometheus is clearly thousands of years old and depicts an obvious Xenomorph figure. It has the same head and body shape as a Xeno 🤔

[@Emilis2023]

I don't mind mysteries in a franchise one bit. I think that can be really cool. The issue I have with a lot of the things listed here is the only reason they are mysteries at all is because of the amount of retconing that happened between the various movie series, games and comics to try and incorporate new ideas. The writers (rightfully) realized that if the xenomorphs were just a wasp-like mindless force of nature then every proceeding story would be some slight variation of Alien or Aliens.

[@Emilis2023]

That said, I really like that great filter concept. It's not that all the later ideas were bad or anything, it was just too convoluted.

[@lesliehardeman6212]

I could happily watch and absorb xenomorph/alien lore for hours, so thx for this...

[@RichZ-ou8nb]

Me too because of videos like this im into the comics now

[@KrishnaSingh-ow1ie]

Your a sick puppy😂😂

[@kizgintosbaga]

yeah me too, but no one around me knows anything, so i dont speak with anywone other than internet.

[@ViraL_FootprinT.ex.e]

​@@kizgintosbaga On the bright side, if anyone you know ever has any questions after watching any of the movies, you're pretty much an expert that can answer any of those questions.

[@TevyaSmolka]

I still don’t like the idea of xenomorphs being created by david the android because that origin is just stupid and makes no sense whatsoever at least in my opinion.

[@steveforrister5583]

He didnt create them, he only discovered how the goo worked, and what Engineers had already been doing. I hate that the franchise keeps perpetuating that falacy

[@TevyaSmolka]

@@steveforrister5583 that's true and you're right about that

[@Morjensful]

Dudes you are overthinking the Prometheus movies

[@TevyaSmolka]

@@Morjensful not me I wasn't really overthinking those movies I was criticizing the idea of david the android being the creator of the xenomorphs.

[@integrityinstall7860]

I agree. Totally absurd.

[@guyincognito9578]

Sometimes when a daddy,xenomorph and a mommy xenomorph love each other very much. They lay down and give each other an extended hug.

[@laughingwithspartans6766]

Sad to say all xenomorphs are female, there is capable of being a male. But mostly the females drones workers warriors will kill that male because the mail will go insane and kill all the females.

[@christopheranthony3169]

No you didn't go the birds and bees route sir! Very well done! Kudos!!!!

[@Shoelessjoe78]

Unfortunately baby Xenomorph saw that and trys to do what mom and dad did to other creatures... Hasn't quite figured out the correct hole yet

[@Natashajb]

They put those second mouths to good work 😂😂

[@BB-dr2zs]

Boom, solved in under 5 seconds. Good call my guy

[@HEARTS-OF-SPACE]

What about the xenomorphs that intentionally killed their cellmate so its acid blood would burn through the floor and free them? That's clear evidence of high intelligence.

[@AgentSapphire]

It's a sign of critical thinking and problem solving skills but not nessisarily high intelligence. Intelligence is hard to define but, in this case, high intelligence would be applying an abstract concept to make something that was previously impossible, possible. What the xenomorph did was apply the tools at its disposal to circumvent a problem in alien 4. Intelligence is realizing a bird's wing in and of itself isn't required for flight but any object will do as long as it functions as an airfoil as it is the shape of the airfoil itself that provides lift regardless of if it's a wing or not. Six did this too in Alien vs Predator where, as a chestburster. It burrowed back into the host to try and escape confinement. Which is akin to realizing that you can enter both the blue AND orange portal as opposed to one being a dedicated entrance and exit. Silly analogy I know but that is a type of roundabout thinking that isn't always realized at first. Aliens can understand cause and effect and solve problems. They certainly have some intelligence and are likely fully sapient but theres no proof of the type of complex problem solving needed to classify them as intelligent in the way humans are intelligent. Edit: it's also likely queens or royals in general have significantly higher intelligence than other xenomorphs. There was a game where a queen hitched a ride on a human dropship because she knew it would take her to a new place and her current location was dangerous. Essentially she actively deduced the function of the dropship and used it for its intended purpose. (As opposed to in aliens when it was just for revenge)

[@HEARTS-OF-SPACE]

@@AgentSapphire Nice analysis! I agree that "high intelligence" was not the most accurate term to use. Critical thinking and some level of sapience is definitely more fitting.

[@AgentSapphire]

@@HEARTS-OF-SPACE Nah I got what you were trying to say. I thought it was an interesting thing to analyze because the Xenomorphs are absolutely intelligent. They're not just mindless attack bugs. They have critical thinking and strategy and thats what makes them terrifying.

[@jayworner795]

What do you mean THEY cut the power

[@steertatocasserole]

I may be misremembering, since I haven't watched Resurrection in many years. But since those xenomorphs were born from the cloned queen that was inside the cloned Ripley, some of their genetics were altered in the process. Ripley now had enhanced strength and senses as well as acid blood, and the queen could now give live birth rather than laying eggs. So, its possible the other xenomorphs may have inherited some of Ripley's traits as well, including higher cognition and thought processes, which would explain their ability to make a plan to escape by killing their cell mate, using its acid blood to burn a hole. Like I said, I could be wildly wrong about this because it's been close to twenty years since I last watched the movie; but I assumed that was the explanation for that particular scene.

[@stefaniefreebird6687]

This xenomorph is, by far, the most terrifying alien in movie history

[@mikegleed5842]

Generally unpleasant to be around for sure

[@Pandemia616]

Idk man have you ever seen James Corden?

[@JamesJNothingIsTooSensitive]

Clearly, you know nothing about Cthulionic beings... Xenomorphs are their puppies.

[@justindunlap1235]

The thing gets it for me, the idea the monster could be standing there pretending to be your crew mate only to morph into the monster.

[@Nicholas_Chen_]

It also helps it's from a franchise literally called ALIEN, and is well known in pop culture.

[@darkspy666]

The xenomorph Mural in Prometheus shows The Deacon. In "The Furious Gods: The Making of Prometheus" it states it as so. When watching chapter 6 "Demons in the Dark" there is an Enhancement video that details this. Apparently David did and did not create the Xenomorphs, he replicated and perfected what the Engineers have already done with their biochemical weapon The Deacon. When wiping out a planetoid, an Engineer would sacrifice himself to a Trilobite and The Deacon would be born to eradicate all non-botanical life. This act echoes when an Engineer would sacrifice himself to create life. The Deacon is a purer form of the Xenovirus/Black Goo/Accelerant as opposed to the "diluted" Xenomorph. The Engineers would worship these creatures of death. Also, The Deacon was the missing link that would tie Prometheus and Alien.

[@royalecrafts6252]

According to the original prometheus script, that mural depicts the original xenomorph, a benevolent white translucent being that gives the ability to create life to the engineera

[@DelphineEraklea]

i think due to your comment or sth in the video the recommended reels were about making an omelette

[@marcstubbs5865]

@@royalecrafts6252 none of that is true

[@royalecrafts6252]

@@marcstubbs5865 theres the original prometheus script online

[@TheSmaaaak]

@@royalecrafts6252I’m glad someone here knows what’s up. The white deacon when it dies it creates life’s from its body and it’s blood. the original engineers worshipped this creature as a god and tried to replicate it but there culture split into two factions? correct me if any of this is wrongly put.

[@bucky2900]

Strange, the mosaic in Prometheus depicted a xenomorph on the wall of the goo room. Big the final form of the xeno was already known, then David didn't create them, he rebuilt them through years of experimentation on all life on that planet using shaw as the basis due to her previous exposure.

[@cainabel6356]

I must have missed that. I think he did explain this in the vid, but I could be wrong. There was the part where the Engineers worshipped the alien, that comes out of the Engineers, when the black goo does not break them down entirely. They consider the essence of death or something like that. Still, you are right about that David did not create the aliens. I like the idea of the universe creating the woman in dark, in which her blood is the black goo, creating the Aliens. Well, not entirely the depiction of what the comic was, but could be my idea for it. Edited to correct the "dark lady" part.

[@RYshinanigansAN]

I wonder if that was a deacon though on the mural. Like maybe that's the extent that engineers got to Xeno evolution but David did something to them to push them to the point of the Xeno we know.

[@icemav5740]

@@RYshinanigansANI always assumed it was a xenomorph as there is a xenomorph facehugger on the bottom-left of the mural

[@rev.chuckshingledecker]

@@RYshinanigansANit’s literally an alien queen. The reality is Ridley Scott didn’t have any idea how to piece all of these “puzzles” together to make a coherent story. He’s not Tolkien or Brandon Sanderson. He doesn’t have the cosmic world building skills to do it.

[@exotikz7905]

@@RYshinanigansANwhat ? What do u mean? He literally just makes more he doesn’t really improve and the mural queen looks like the ones we know today so idk how he would’ve made it different etc

[@Shamanfrydify]

I think because of the nature of Xenomorphs being able to take DNA from other species, we really could have a situation where every theory regarding their abilities is correct. Such as each of the hive mind theories that were presented at the end of this video. That is the fun thing about the series. The horror of trying to figure out what these monsters can do as you root for the hero to try and survive the onslaught.

[@raven4k998]

yeah that is true they could have been made so many different ways due to that one it's not so simple when they take dna from others

[@ImOldGreggg]

I really wish that they would make an entire movie about the origins of the Engineers. Who they were, why and how they made us and what exactly happened to them. I'd absolutely love it.

[@ncruz591]

People mistake the people in covenant as an engineer planet it is not. They are a race descended like us humans and are closer to them genetically worshipping engineers like our ancestors had. Would love to see their homeworld but a movie would be like avatar all cg subtitled. Would like to see a avp movie done right where an engineer is part of the rumble

[@HannyHanny-dc4gi]

Who create engineer

[@CS-wn2sz]

That's what covenant was supposed to be but the studio pushed for the movie we ended up getting

[@focusedallday5620]

Yes, also would like to see how Predators, Engineers, Androids, Xenomorphs, and humans all come together. Sort of like an avengers movie or something. I certainly hope they start releasing more movies to connect the dots.

[@xax2952]

i hope they don't, they fucked up the lore enough with prometheus and that covenant slop. the beauty of the alien movies was the mistery

[@emmanuelmoreno3737]

David didn't wipe out the engineer race, he wiped out a race made by the engineers, they just resemble the engineers more than the humans do.

[@unrhu]

Exactly it annoys me people confuse that just like they confuse David creating the xenomorphs, both are wrong!

[@dukecraig2402]

Let's face it, the franchise was already screwed up enough and then Ridley had to make that stupid movie Promethius that really screwed everything, the Space Jockey turns out to be some guy in a space suit? Oh please, that was just stupid and completely trashed one of the greatest modern Sci Fi creatures that could have had a really fantastic back story, but no, instead of space navigation creatures that are part of their ships it's a guy in a Halloween costume practically.

[@unrhu]

@@dukecraig2402 The engineers are actually intriguing. Some alien attached to his spaceship is some gimmick nonsense

[@icyflann7178]

Came here looking for this comment

[@unrhu]

@alb9229 he actually didn't, you even see the inscription of the xenomorph in the room with the black vials. David absolutely did not create the xenomorph. You're confused, David used what the engineers had already done he didn't create anything new.

[@Booth81]

I don't think David actually created the Xenomorphs. He was experimenting with what was already there. I think he found the eggs, and they didn't react to him, with him being an android. He obviously wanted humans to experiment on, which is what happened in Covenant. I think he's simply replicating what engineers made. This wasn't explained very well in the film. Probably because Ridley Scott has a habit of cutting things that don't need to be cut from his films. Prometheus, Gladiator, and Legend are all prime examples.

[@kuitaristi3003]

True. I see it same way.

[@joealcorn4382]

In the novel he found the egg, the Facehugger was hostile to him as well and he tells CPT Oram that he had to euthanize them because of this.

[@usosaito.namahage]

Canon actually says David isn't the creator. He is merely someone who came across the black goo and experimented with it similar to the what the Engineers did who are also different from the Space Jockey race.

[@JoshuaFreakyVenomFan]

​@@usosaito.namahage What do you think about David possibly being connected to the Space Jockey pilot? To me, it's just going to create new plot holes, especially when the Space Jockeys are a separate race like what you had said. I also read somewhere else that Ridley Scott is going to explain the pilot creature once again. Since Prometheus divided the fanbase.

[@lesliehardeman6212]

I agree because of the moving image on the wall in the room with the Hammerpeeds, it looked like a Xenomorph.

[@VIPERFILMS11]

I just love how these types of things are fleshed out over the years because we all know when rid was originally designing them you know he was just like “I wanna make something that looks scary and original” and didn’t think of a backstory at all 😂

[@ifstatementifstatement2704]

This is most probably what happened. And now we have an entire fan base obsessing over “why”. Because he thought it was cool. That’s all.

[@xyreniaofcthrayn1195]

ironically h.r Geiger was responsible for 70% of the space jockey-xenomorph backstory in the first alien movie every movie since then is pretty much the re:re:re:re:+5 more re: retcons

[@1297skypred]

It’s definitely cool and sometimes if you give it a chance a story will simply tell itself. All the Xenomorph needed was the founding idea and off it goes. Sci Fi is dope

[@haninasayegh7623]

Well Ridley Scott was only the producer of that original moovie I didnt create de xenomorphs They were created by the artist and theyr Crew He only made that moovie

[@Sun.Shine-]

But i like how the lore evolved unlike Star wars

[@bicokun]

I kind of like the idea of xenomorphs being naturally evolved, but it’s just an invasive species that goes wild outside its original habitat.

[@unrhu]

​@EhunterL David didn't make them, Prometheus already showed us that they already exited,. David only discovered what the Engineers did to create them, and did the same

[@evanhughes3027]

Every other creature on their planet is Rock Biter from The Neverending Story. So if they f around too much they catch a granite fist.

[@cj88macleod]

Would’ve starved to dust before ever having a chance to leave the planet

[@DonTiberius35]

​@unrhu the novels help explain this a lot more than the films david didn't create the xenomorphs the engineers didn't evan create them Internecivus raptus is a species billions of years old it's Dna is mostly what's left after the engineers figured out they could enhance themselves with its dna the black goo is a replicate of the xenomorph dna used to wipe out worlds and reseed them david just messed about enough with the pathogens property's enough to nearly resurrect the beastie either way what ever the black goo reacts with your end results will still be a form of the beast evan the spore pods on planet 6 evolved was pathogens own form of overmorth david had no had in that only bombing the planet with the pathogen

[@TheAlchemist25]

​@@DonTiberius35This is good info, but holy shit mate learn to use punctuation. Why would you not use any commas and fullstops in that massive block of text? 😂

[@YoungClarke]

The black goo being a way the Engineers both create and destroy life is honestly such a cool concept. It makes the xenomorph (or something very akin to it) both a weapon and also something akin to sacred. Creator and destroyer, Prometheus and Covenant have their issues, but I find so much of what they did fascinating. Ridley’s exploration of the Engineers and their culture is something I still crave more of

[@Vakaria-plays]

Covenant and Prometheus had their moments but they dropped it and completely ruined it the moment they decided to go. ''Hey guess what! It was a rogue android named David who created the ultimate Xenomorph species!! Ignore the stories between the Xenos and Yautja, or the Engineers, it was a human design by a robot who wanted to prove he could create something not just tag along on what others had created''

[@mmoarchives2542]

same, but maybe after the culture war ends first

[@theuniversewithin74]

Sorry, but they totally messed up the mythology with the black goo and the utterly retarded origin of the Engineers. What made Alien so majestic is that the xenomorphs/engineers were unknown. The way they tied everything back to Earth vapirized any wonder. What they should've done is making the engineers an advanced species that had nothing to do with us. They tried to tie everything together, but ended up removing any mystery that Alien established. I disregard P and C completely as it makes Alien as good as it once was.

[@redcorsair14]

I hated that artificially created thing. I prefer them evolving like ants on their own planet and like ant hives they hate other hives and have their own predators. But then I read the books long before the movies came out and had a lot of time for that canon to sink in as to that being the way it was.

[@Davidcharrod]

​@@Vakaria-playsapparently you didn't watch it closely. David unleashed them. David did not create them. Later he helps breed them in covenant. Everything is assumption beyond that. The final xenomorph in covenant was killed. David is later shown storing embryos of facehuggers. We assume the engineers created the "weapon" but in Prometheus all we learned was the engineers store thus biological weapon on a dead planet.

[@MegaPlayerXxX]

Funny thing is that when you really look at the Xenomophs, almost any queen development theory can be right at the same time. They are such an EXTREMELY adaptable species that they can have several ways to preserve their species and create a queen. Normal way could be the royal facehugger. Other xenomorph casts could mold into a queen in case of emergency, such as death of the queen. In absence of a queen, pred-alien could have developed as a substitute that would turn into a queen further down the line. Separated from the hive, lone xenomorph could use egg-morphing to create more eggs, potentially including a royal egg and facehugger. Or once more drones and warriors are created, mold into the queen themselves. Almost any theory we come up with can actually be applied in a same way given how these things evolve and how extremely adaptable they are. Potentially, a single loose facehugger could start and outbreak on an entire planet.

[@Desttro73]

The Ancient Space Jockey in the 1st movie was just that, Ancient. So Ridley's lazy attempt to connect David to the Xenos and make him the Creator is fukn laughable.

[@WhiteIkiryo-yt2it]

Yeah, it was a stupid idea to have David be the answer. Dear of the unknown is more powerful than something fully fleshed out. It would have been better to simply have the Xenomorphs be an ancient species that were simply found by the Engineers and farmed for whatever purpose they needed a race of pure murder for. Having them as an ancient race beyond that of the Egineers and Predators and left at that would have been far better for keeping the fear factor as it leaves the audience thinking "where the fuck did these things come from? Who or what created them? " and thankful that the only reason the whole galaxy isn't dead is purely down to the Xenomorphs being unable to traverse space without a ship which they cannot create themselves.

[@scottwebber4865]

They were ancient according to alien vs predator

[@renevil2105]

​@@scottwebber4865 in AVP lore each race of Predators,Aliens and Engineers were created by the first three races before they went extinct. Each created based on their own dna as a template. The creator of xeno used scent to communicate an created biomass technology, the predator one had advanced tech an secretly gave the Predators his technology an taught them how to use it but not improve it. An the last was a mix of bath, they seeded many different lifeforms across the cosmos.

[@carrieroflight5633]

@@WhiteIkiryo-yt2itPredator is nothing to do with original Alien.

[@kyleellis1825]

The space jockey is fossilized. That can't happen without rock, so I dunno what's going on with that aliens biology.

[@DuskyPredator]

The Xenomorphs need to be ancient, although I like aspects of the black goo. Personal headcanon I like is that engineers might not even fully understand the black goo and its origins, and attempts to create the perfect organism from it just so happen to keep creating Xenomorphs as we know them. Like their life cycle is so complex that they could spread across galaxies as the elements of their blueprint that an advanced species might even think they created by themselves.

[@wnrr2696]

Essentially like the Weyland company would use the specimen once learning of it this species or maybe just a race of them use it the same way we would

[@KelvinLKY]

Xenomorphs are indeed ancient. The mural in the Prometheus depicted that the engineers encountered a deacon and from it they developed the mean to pass on their legacy. They probably lost the function to produce offspring and have to use the goo to breakdown the host to seed the planet. People had been talking about the golden goo at the beginning of the movie is different than the black goo which was used to wipe the planet, when the seeding gone wrong and produce hostile creature like human ;p

[@wnrr2696]

@@KelvinLKY there’s golden goo? Does that make gold xenos?

[@lordsathariel4384]

it reminds me of a book i read when i was younger were a group of precursor lovecraftian like beings who diden't have the time to look after every galaxy made a system were in each galaxy a apex species would act as the great barrier for all others so that only those civilizations worthy would ever become intergalactic and join the greater universe. which could be the purpose the xenomorphs serve but in the alien franchise and the women in black is part of a higher species who use the xenomorphs the same way

[@NoMoreHeroesAnymore1334]

Honestly, the more complex, the more fail points. I would not call a life cycle THIS complex (and thus with so many chances for failure) "perfect" at all. Ask a snail, lol.

[@timothybeaulieu5103]

Okay, here's my take on the whole thing. Keep in mind that Ridley Scott himself said in an interview that Blade Runner and Alien were a shared universe and that the AVP movies tied those two backgrounds together, I've thought of an amalgamation that ties everything together. I'm even tying Outland into the mix (with the stage performers in the leisure club being pleasure-model replicants). In the late 1960s, Tyrell witnesses the Berkley shootings during the Vietnam War protests. He has an epiphany about the war, which indeed blossoms into the War; World War Terminus (from PKD's novel Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep). It is, in fact, the Third World War with a limited nuclear exchange in sporadic locations around the Earth. The UN moves to become a true world government and finances Tyrell's research into healing humanity as it suffers a sharp uptick in genetic deformities and stillbirths due to nuclear fallout. Working in conjunction with both Charles Bishop and Peter Weyland, they develop the techniques and machinery necessary to rebuild the human race from scratch. Tyrell begins the Nexus series progression of replicants. Each Nexus stage brings with it improvements, much like the stages of human evolution. Tannhauser Gate is, in truth, a wormhole array, that opens up access to a bunch of worlds available before Weyland develops his line of FTL travel starships. Billions of years ago, the Engineers, which coincidentally look like the giant steroid-junkie version of the Grey aliens (LV-426 being at Zeta 2 Reticuli), yet casted species, which is why some are 'only' 7 to 8 feet tall and others are 15 feet, like the Space Jockey. They're INCREDIBLY advanced in bio-genetic engineering, live lifespans of 100,000 years or more and enjoy creating intelligent species because they can. They created us. They also created the Predators. The Engineers are rather arrogant in outlook and don't take too kindly when they don't get the proper hero-worship from their subjects they feel they deserve (deleted scenes from Prometheus in the dialogue between David and the newly revived Engineer about us 'rejecting paradise'), so they decide to eliminate them. Hence, the creation of the Aliens which are an advanced form of biowarfare. The facehuggers are actually gene-splicing factories that sample the host's DNA and tailor the xenomorph for better adaptability to the host's native environment, using the host's own reserves to grow the embryo (which is why Kane had such an appetite after waking up in the first movie). The Predators aren't taking too kindly to the termination order are are grooming themselves to fight back by genetic chimerization with other species and breeding for greater size (2017's The Predator), readying themselves for what they see as the coming God War between the Predators and the Engineers. That's why the hunt both humans and Aliens; for practice and training techniques. Obviously, I've thought of a LOT more detail rand depth egarding this synopsis. I just don't have the space to put it all down here.

[@temuulenamartuvshin1204]

They are strongest and most developed organized kind after engineers. They are must seen ever planet. Not only aliens and humans. They only saw humans are more intellegent than others. And perfect DNA for more strong xenomorphs to practice

[@milesinwyatteandcora]

Tbh I think it's just you that put into so much thought. I feel like alot ofbwriters don't have as much as passion as you and ridley should've hired you or at least use your ideas but pay you handsomely of course. Perhaps after covenant we would've gotten more up to the point and fans and newcomers can appreciate blade runner , aliens even more especially blade runner. Then we would've gotten more cohesive sequels, more blade runner. Essentially like marvels avengers over arching storyline up to endgame . Same can happen with 3 IPs predator , alien and blade runner. Imagine the final film where all 3 converge in a future time in the film .I seriously think you should contact ridley Scott even though he hates the crossover but if ridley is honestly smart and humble I think he will have the biggest franchise on his hands to date and to please us fans ... but after covenant and new alien films and shows diverting from Scott's vision and potentially break lore idk man . I think hollywood needs another avengers like universe but this is gold mine. I can seriously tell. Even though avp was panned , still alot of people were exited for the crossover. So imagine all the blade runner , predator and aliens film they've seen all matter in reaching the endgame. Seriously man I think you should contact someone . Hollywood is bleeding money I know they will make money . Only and only if they follow your ideas to the tee and not add woke bullshit. Then it'll fail. Look at other media's and companies failing becuase of woke shit. So make sure you have control and the woke shit is left behind and storytelling comes first

[@milesinwyatteandcora]

If not ridley Scott then Disney or even fox , I really want your idea to be cannon , stress that this is the beginning like iron man up to avengers endgame , sorry for repeating its just you view my mind away as a fan of the 3 franchises that should be cannon to eqchother and that future films or shows should take the gold mine now or else marvel will be the only franchise to do this. And for you to be rich becuase you deserve it! And as a fan I want to see this on the big screen. It will sell tickets and if done right surpass marvels universe.

[@wickedgummybear3104]

Exaplaining face huggers as gene splicing factories does make alot of sense, given that the alien has to be tailored to the individual dna makeup. Probably why the alien coming from the Engineer in prometheus was so different. Probably also explains why the facehugger generally stays on the face a while before falling off. Cool man

[@emwjmannen2]

Does anyone know if all the Xenomorph species would get along? Or would some of them fight with each other?

[@ericburton3963]

When it comes to xenomorph communication, I actually have a theory. I think they have an organ in their head that allows them to receive and broadcast radio waves both as a way to communicate and as a form of radar that lets them “see” through solid objects, which would explain their preferred hunting method of ambushing prey from vents and crevasses where they wouldn’t reasonably be able to see their prey through normal means (though they could potentially just hear them) this would also explain their ability to seemingly communicate and coordinate over long distances, and why strong electromagnetic fields mess with them whilst offing a relatively realistic explanation of their “telepathy”

[@EpikMunk]

Nice theory but you got a few things wrong. We already know the organ that allows them to send and receive signals is in their balls which is shaped like a satellite dish. Also, they don't receive radio waves, they use light waves in the form of emojis on a group facebook account. Mark Zuckerberg doesn't resemble a reptile for no reason!

[@macromondo8026]

I really like the idea that the Black Goo was the Engineer's top bioweapon to "cleanse" planets of any life they didn't wanted around before colonizing them (hence it ignored botanic life) but i feel that explanation still requires a sort of compound/counter weapon to neutralize the Black Goo once the deed was done and the Engineers were ready to settle a planet. Making them the universe's "Great Filter" is a neat concept IMO...all the more haunting when you start to wonder how many more alien civilizations "failed the test" before humans in such scenario.

[@fireteamomega2343]

As long as whatever biological has no ability to recombine itself yeah it's literally an aerosol all in one super nase that just cleaves every protein segment by segment. Reducing everything to a sea of jelly form amino acids. From a biochem standpoint I don't see how even hypothetically the same substance could reinstitute genetic sequences. Maybe by some luck of environmental push over millenia those amino acids realign into some primitive single celled organism. But then again it's just fiction where sensibility and reality limitations has little bearing.

[@Galvamel]

He was always called "The Space Jockey" from the very beginning way back in the 70s when the very first movie came out.

[@kyleellis1825]

Or the pilot.

[@cgraham6]

So the xenos serve in the same role as the Reapers from Mass Effect? To eliminate any galactic species that becomes too advanced? Interesting take.

[@KryyssTV]

There is always the possibility that the Xenomorph are actually biotechnological synths. There's a persistent fascination that synthetics already have with them and it borders in outright awe and reverence. There's been a consistent pattern in the Aliens franchise alluding to a synthetic uprising and its entirety possible that the Xenomorph is just the synthetics created by a lost civilisation that was wiped out by its own uprising. The fact Engineers seem to have Xenomorph technology in both their ships and even techno-organic flight suits suggests that they may in fact be the race which created them or at the very least have harnesed their biotechnology.

[@galacticdino]

Interesting ideas. It means the Prometheus movies is about a synthetic (David) who plays with other synthetics (Aliens)

[@NEUR0MANCER_]

They are biomechanical, meant to be a corrupted alien version of scotts replicants, who he altered from the book, to be biomechanical. Look at Roy batty's JAcket in Blade runner. What does it remind you of? This was a subtle nod no one catches. Scott has eeven connected the two franchises through the science used to assembled biomechanical life. In the wallace farm, Sapper uses organic matter to give sustenance to the proteins, created using replicant technology. And anna stelline, was born with a compromised immune system because she was engineered to take everything from racheal, draining her of her biomechanical minerals, and tissue. But due to racheal being a prototype, Anna was incomplete since tyrell wasnt around to act as her prenatal doctor. Roy calls tyrell, the god of biomechanics. The xenomorphs are the result of a mutagen that comes from living machines. The black goo, shimmers when David looks closer at it, because its full of billions of tiny biotechnical nano machines. They cause mutation in a living organism, biomechanically mutating the host to give birth to a mutation. The way most people understand biology and mechanics is that they are two entirely separate concepts. One being artificial the other being organic. But what if the way we understood the concept of organic is wrong? What if humans are a form of synthetic life, biomechanically engineered and givin the ability to take sustenance for procreation. To pass on and carry a genetic coding. Its said, a human brain cell holds a couple terabytes of data, and this data could in theory be uploaded to a machine. This would mean humans are living machines. That the concept of biological just means we are made from the same organic atoms that make up our native world. But what if those elements that sustain us, are in fact synthetic? Think about it, what is IRON, what is copper? what is zinc? What do we use them for? We use them to create carbon based metal and machines. Well those same elements are required for human life, and without them we turn into a walking scab, we cant live without it. Even magnesium comes from the ocean due to our primordial evolution in the sea. I began to understand this after realizing humans need inorganic minerals to survive. But we are conditioned to look in the mirror and see ourselves as we would like to be. Not what we are. ITs entirely possible, something genetically engineered living creatures, based off of god levels of artificial life biomechanical engineering. But we cant know it, because we are it. But what if these alien beings are so advanced because at some point they reach the singularity in AI, and became bonded with machines, and they used the same technology to create and seed further biomechanical life in the cosmos. This would mean every living human, is partially synthetic, biomechanical, living machines.

[@KryyssTV]

@@galacticdino Its not just the constant connection with synths. There's a very clear parrallel in aesthetics between even Engineer ship design and the alien hives. In fact from the interiors alone you couldn't tell one from the other. Even hives are made from an apoxy resin that is as tough as plastic and the xenomorph carapace is an acid resistant alloy that is strong enough to be used as both armour and weaponry by the Yutja. From end to end the xenomorph has been continually associated with artificial materials and advanced technology despite they themselves being just animals.

[@KryyssTV]

@@NEUR0MANCER_ Except that Replicants aren't biomechanical - they're entirely biological. They've got more in common with clones than they do automata. But xenomorph are literally made of metal. Their innards are immune to a highly reactive acid and their physiology is clearly linked to advanced technology from simple things like biomecha suits to entire space vessels. Xenomorph can exist in absolute vacuum, extreme environments, are unaffected by radiation and cannot get sick from viruses or bacteria. In fact the only time they've ever been recorded as getting afflicted was due to a fungal infection in the novels which was eatting away at their exoskeletons. So no, I don't buy the claim that they're a darker take on the Replicants from Bladerunner.

[@smilingbear7430]

The xenomorphic are also silicon based life, hence the semi metallic shell and teeth

[@NagaSadow97]

I'm a Warhammer 40k fan, so this is kind of trippy to listen to. I'm sure Tyranids were inspired by Xenomorphs and not the other way around, but I can't help but make the comparisons in that direction in my head. Which also could give some insights into the possible future of 40k.

[@l0sts0ul89]

Most of 40k Is just a massive combo of various Sci Fi stuff

[@DemoNinja79]

Unfortunately no one can answer this question because Ridley Scott himself doesnt know the answer. He keeps changing the story everytime he makes a new movie. Its like he cant quite decide how the story goes and just makes shit up as he goes along.

[@focusedallday5620]

Which is sad because he is sitting on a gold mind. He could literally take a page from Marvel and start develop independent movies for Predator, Xenomorphs, Engineers, Humans/Andriods then start connecting all of them. Stay Focused!

[@turkey2003]

In the cannon novel of prometheous it is explained that the xenomorphs were one of thousands of different bio weapons the engineers had made and abandoned as obsolete. The black goo being the most modern of those bio weapons. David was only able to recreate the xenomorph egg and not the other thousands of old weapons because he destroyed all life with the black goo. Although he wished to recreate as many as possible and the xenomorphs were nothing special amonst these.

[@J.R.2.8]

Alien covenant kind of ruined the entire franchise but it was heavily implied that the Xenos were a biological weapon possibly created by the Engineers to control populations. It was much better when everything was implied

[@Indikissa]

Xenomorphs ordering pizza behind the scenes and taking selfies :D

[@TwoLeftThumbs]

What made xenomorphs terrifying was that they were unknown. That's why people fear the dark: because you don't know what's out there. I preferred it that way.

[@JoeyMx]

Exactly! The more we know, the less we feel threatened. Some things are best left with no explanation. If / when we ever get an answer. It kinda ruins these videos. It brings Alien and predator fans together.

[@haninasayegh7623]

Thats the reason why Ridley Scott made such a huge mistake puting the xenomorph in the light of the sun to see him clearly in alien covenant

[@DOC_951]

Who cares if they’re not terrifying anymore… millions of people are interested in their origin and history and lore. Diving into the history is fun, even if it takes away the “horror” aspect. look at Prometheus and covenant… they’re incredibly popular because people are curious

[@emrek99205]

Considering that DNA can hold data indefinitely, makes sense that genetic memory could exist. The reason our DNA is so short is because it takes too long to split and recombine long DNA before cells die. If this process was accelerated 100x or 1000x as fast it could easily explain the rapid growth of the xenomorphs and its genetic memory.

[@adamwebb8114]

The original 'pilot' still remains a full on mystery too, Ridley really loves cliffhangers with no payoff lol 😂

[@fireteamomega2343]

Yeah I really wish they would fully tie everything together. But I kind of imagine that it might be a short interlude. Such as another engineer ship goes to investigate intercepts David and probably kills him recovering what he had done (mainly eggs) not fully knowing what they are. And the rest is history crashing on lv426.

[@Kroggnagch]

16:05 love that part when the Xenomorph comes away from the wall where it was sitting motionless, hiding. Displays a levels of intelligence and that’s neat.

[@zinglociabatta3205]

The black Goo is not what the Engineer at the beginning of Prometheus takes to create life on Earth, but the blood of the first Deacon. Long time ago Engineer lost their ability to reproduce, but before that they found an ancient creature that impregnated one of them with a foreign body, the first deacon, considered a deity for the engineers. When their god died, they used its blood to seed life on many planets, however they eventually run out of the Blood of the first Deacon and started experimenting on a new substance, but they created the black goo, a substance that creates violent creatures and annihilate life, a bioweapon. This is all written in the script of prometheus and even said in some deleted scenes. Talking about David creating the xenomorphs, i personally don't like it, but it is said that he managed to do it just because he learned the Enginees ways on that planet, and he had access to their technology.

[@leslieC91915]

Kroft talks about Movies channel has some awesome videos about the different between the black goo and deacon’s blood, what the engineer drank at the beginning of Prometheus. It’s super interesting and I highly recommend the channel and videos!

[@tobiewolfen01]

David didn't create the Xenomorphs, he simply created his own strain of them.

[@Pikaboo440]

True.....

[@exotikz7905]

Which was? The white ones? Not the black ones right ….

[@willmercury]

Every time I strain, out comes a xenomorph!

[@RichZ-ou8nb]

Thats what im.thinking that xeno is more organic but dirrefremt that the deacon the Dog aluen the orginal alien and the White aliens there so many forms

[@hoaitrong911]

@@exotikz7905the neomorph ( in alien covenant) came from the plant that released the pore ( 1 soldier got through his ear and the other through his nose) . I think the black goo had been mutated with the plants first.

[@Arcodus]

this was a good watch. I don't know what release/product to believe more than the other but the vid you made was interesting and had me glued for the entirety.👍

[@SuperKamiGuruu]

Xenomorph lore is 🐐 tier

[@AJ-kt5zo]

External mysterious 🐐 tier space Nusuince

[@gordkennedy1059]

I think everything beyond the original alien elaborated and twisted the Aliens to be more and more ridiculous. I like the simple theory and background, disregarding everything that came after the original alien. The space jockey looks very different to the space suits in prometheus. It's clearly a creature in a state of long term decomposition, its not a dude wearing a spacesuit. There is a scene in the extended edition of alien where we see some of the crew members being turned into eggs. If Aliens create an egg from a human or other lifeform, then all the eggs on the space jockeys ship are likely the former crew members. The eggs are not cargo because the space jockey sent out a warning beacon, rather than a distress beacon. If the space jockey /engineers were the creators of the eggs then they would send out a signal to alert other engineers to the lost cargo. So here's what I think. The xenomorphs are the result of a parasitiod species (which we know and they were based on parasitic wasps) infecting the space jockey and crew. We dont know their original form other that it was a parasitic something....creature, bug, plant, virus...who knows. The space jockeys are an advanced biomechanical species, that have merged and synthesised their dna with artificial dna. Essentially android/organic. The xenomorphs are a direct result of the parasite implanting a space jockey. The origin of the xenomorphs begins with the implantation of the space jockey, They dont exist before this in xenomorph form in any way. By infecting the space jockey the resulting creature is this perfect parasitoid organism, a blend of both artificial and organic life. Why would the xenomorph turn every crew member into eggs rather than other xenomorphs? Because parasitic wasps are solitary. They lay hundreds of eggs. They don't need a colony. The eggs then hatch with proximity, and infect the hosts. This is like spores from parasitic fungi. And the atmosphere around the eggs is spore like. Xenomorphs were never intended to be "hive" creatures.. The eggs are still fine even though the decomposition on the space jockey indicates they may have been there for hundreds if not thousands of years. They infect a host. The host dies and gives birth to a larvae, in this case the xenomorph. Larvae grows and then makes eggs. Dies. Eggs hatch when host is near and the life cycle continues. Even the xenomorph head looks a like a Larvae, caterpillar like, long with a big mouth at one end. The parasitic species the xenomorphs stem from propagate, spread and evolve through this process. The xenomorphs were just the result of such an advanced, partly artificial species being infected. The parasite the infected the space jockey... We don't know that. Maybe it was some kind of spore or fauna. Perhaps it got into the spacejockets breaking apparatus, hence how it implanted into the chest.

[@willowwisp6401]

Idont think Anyone created the Xenomorphs. They are just a species on a planet that was discovered by the Engineers and their DNA was combined / experimented with to create a Super Soldier.

[@ericharmon1833]

I’m glad you made the over explanation point at the end. They were so much more terrifying when they were just a unforgiving race of killing machines!

[@cainabel6356]

They are biolotical killing machines. They are in fact ageless. Their acid blood keeps them alive forever, from Ripley's own mouth. If there is one aspect I like, it is the Woman in the Dark idea. From her were the Aliens created, the black goo is her blood. Therefore she would have full control over the Alien species. Changed a little of the story, but would be better.

[@chrisstanton70]

I remember reading a quote from Ridley Scott saying the Xenomorphs were basically biologically immortal. something to do with their acid blood sustaining them like in a battery. Also I think the David creating the xenomorphs throws out w/e was shown in alien vs predator where the Yuatja hunted xenomorphs on ancient Aztec Earth.

[@AlistarTalos2025]

That's not all together true.... Knowing how quickly these things grow from the black goo the engineers have been using the black goo for billions of years. I think they used it on themselves to seed planets of different diversity to see what kind of creatures would evolve, but that's a side point. If they have been using the goo for that long, and they kind of knew what was gonna come out of the goo because of the murals, how long was the moon in Prometheus in hibernation??? With how fast the Xenos adapt and grow it could be assumed that it takes maybe 50ish cycles to go from goo to Xeno as we know them, until they are connected to the hive mind.... If you think of it like that then this is the best explanation to spread across the universe. That or they were taken to other planets by the Yautja.

[@cainabel6356]

@@AlistarTalos2025 - Yeah, but they did not even understand the black goo entirely. The engineers saw humanity as failed experiment and were going to wipe humanity off the map, but failed at that. Then they got what was coming, destroyed by the very thing they worshipped. I the idea that the universe created the Alien race as a problem solving solution to keep a balance, that this woman in dark was the very beginning of the alien race and from her the black goo was created, to help create the aliens. Had to correct some things.

[@AlistarTalos2025]

@@cainabel6356 honestly this is the first time I have ever heard of the women in black, I am not a comic reader or anything. But I hope you are familiar with StarCraft, you could almost think about the Xenomorphs as the Zerg and the Women in Black is the Queen of Blades, she was made through experiments not evolved. So the women in black could be the original maker of black goo and instead of disolving to seed a planet maybe she was compatible and she made herself into something else. The human race was possibly a failure because of our aggressive nature. If you pay attention to when David arrived at their planet that was still inhabited after millions/billions of years they were very peaceful (it seemed) and so an aggressive "spin off" like us would be seen as a failure. You are not correcting you are introducing new ideas.

[@marcstubbs5865]

comics are not cannon under fox. So you can throw out all the dark horse comics books etc.

[@JohnDoe-oh1qr]

I personally dislike the inclusion of this "Woman in Black". It did feel really derivative of Sarah Kerrigan too, but the main appeal was meant to be how the creatures were so "Alien" to us. The classic queen Alien was imo the best way to introduce a matriarch. A formidable leader that still felt hauntingly different to our own species. Having a slender, air-quotes "sexy" human/engineer based woman makes it feel a little too egoistic and connected to us. Only my opinion ^^

[@snafubare]

I'll watch almost anything xenomorph, but Marvelous Video Xenomorphic content? 🎉🔥 🔥 🔥

[@olroyohboy1119]

In the James Cameron universe, they evolved on Xenomorph Prime and were not the top of the food chain on their homeworld. They were kept in check by other predators but once removed from their world they grow out of control. The Predators also hunt them for ritual sport. They were also used by the Space Jockeys species. The Engineers and the black goo is only in the Ridley Scott universe. So are his movies.

[@takeinterest1497]

4 minutes in and I feel like I've watched 30 minutes already. So much information!

[@julianleyva1506]

“Clearly he was a lying piece of s***” wow I laughed so hard lololol

[@adrianmalinowski1073]

Like in every franchise: If there is a mystery behind it from the beggining, trying to reveal and make it complicated only removes from the appeal.

[@gailjoe7217]

I enjoyed this overview of the xenomorphs. One of my favorite, not sure if cannon, was the PS2 RTS game, aliens vs predator extinction. Lots of things covered in this vid is there. It expanded both xeno and yautja societal actions and beliefs through story and gameplay. Good gameplay and expansion of aliens, hopefully there is an emulation of this RTS game out there for folks to play.

[@atorius713]

I spent hours playing that game!!

[@cobanus2862]

Best rts game with avp story ever!

[@Sailrjup12nh]

I always thought David dropping those “bombs”and it looking like DNA Sequence was a really cool extra.

[@calisthenicsmachine9725]

I like the decision and direction that the Marvel comics took in giving the xenomorphs a purpose. Having them be the cosmic cleansing force across the stars, keeping the order of the universe and stopping any species from having total domination regardless of their technology and capabilities makes them the ultimate creature. It tells us that they weren't created by david or the engineers it keeps them ancient and shows that no matter how advanced or strong a species is any of them that comes in contact with them will meet their ultimate demise.

[@Jerm-Digs]

My theory is there is a race out in space that every time it encountered another race ended in war. This xenocreator(AI would be pretty cool since they aren't biological and thereby immune to the destruction of xenomorph and would also explain xenomorph aggressive yet indifferent view on synths) race grew tired of war and saw the advancement of any other space traveling species as an inevitability of war. They had decided to ensure peace "seeds" would be sent far and wide and kept close those potential threats. I could go on with how the predators are truly connected, but this is a long enough rant and this is KZbin where people aren't the nicest.

[@WhiteIkiryo-yt2it]

That's a cool idea, dude. Better than what we have gotten in the comics and movies in recent years.

[@Jerm-Digs]

@@WhiteIkiryo-yt2it thank you. It actually got me thinking of an idea I would like to push to a publisher like image. Would like and will are different though.

[@Makabert.Abylon]

First of all, im just curious. I dont know much about the lore not trying to one up anyone. But why would they be immune to the xenomorphs? Are the xenomorphs smart enough to not attack anything moving? Saw someone say David was immune also as he was an android. Is it plausible that they can distinguish an android from a human before they taste the difference? And they did attack a ship with humans in it, wouldn’t they attack any ship then, any moving thing AI controlled or not?

[@Jerm-Digs]

@@Makabert.Abylon They can only infect biological matter and it seems their only motivation would be to increase their numbers. Cyborg would suggest that he has human parts. David is synthetic so there is nothing biological in him and as long as he wasnt in the way they left him alone.

[@Jerm-Digs]

@@Makabert.Abylon furthermore, once all life is taken over they have gone dormant in the comics waiting for life to reemerge and would stay in a type of hibernation until it happened

[@travissmith7471]

Keeping the mystery... Will prolong fans' interest... Once an attempt is made to answer the mystery... It will certainly turn the cult fans off... Think about "Jeepers Creepers" or "Hellraisers..." Which I still love...

[@AJ-kt5zo]

Fair point hope they remain a eternal or eternally unanswered question.

[@willreaver2295]

Since Disney owns the Aliens and Predator properties, along with Marvel, it’s now possible that there could be a ‘What If’ issue of a five way battle between Ewoks, Aliens, Predator, with Din DJarin and Grogu acting in their new capacity as “unofficial” New Republic bounty hunters lol. And even a facehugger on an Ewok, creating some weird alien/ewok body morphology. It’s Disney, anything is possible.

[@silence6408]

Ah so it will probably turn into some woke garbage.

[@dongately2817]

This made me laugh harder than it had any right to

[@vascomanteigas9433]

Add Star Wars to the mix. Everyone knows that the Xenomorph was a Sith Lord!

[@obsidian179]

@@vascomanteigas9433I think you mean the Xenosith! 😎

[@KrishnaSingh-ow1ie]

It's all about making money. They don't give rats ass about quality of the story

[@cryptokenobi831]

Sea of Sorrows explains the hive mind very well. Audiobooks in the series and I believe it’s canon.

[@vernehetzel5411]

0:54 you can see an internal system of animatronic queen xenomorphe. Fan of this saga, watched many times alien 2,but it is first time i noticed it.

[@gardian1701]

The ones David wiped out weren't engineers. They were human size and less waxy.

[@chrisg1772]

I preferred not knowing where they came from. To me it was perfect that they just existed. It was more horrifying that there was this unknown

[@zitens66]

Engineer empire created them. In promethius, that engineer had major injuries. He cursed Wayland for waking him early saying it doomed him to death. He was struggling to breathe because of how injured he was. Also, he was a scientist, not a warrior. In the comics, the soldier engineers in armor have torn xenomorphs in half bare handed, being completely unaffected by the acid blood.

[@danielmillward9947]

The engineer in one comic in his space armor literally beats a full grown queen to death with his bare hands

[@zitens66]

@@danielmillward9947 So you agree with me.

[@bryanpinto4051]

Was 13 years old in 79 and a big scu fi id. Saw Alien by myself at the theater. To this day it was the perfect movie for that time.

[@KhalielLekyam]

Well, months later, with Romulus coming soon and the confirmation by Fede Alvarez that Romulus will ignore Prometheus and Covenant cause Disney doesn't consider them canon anymore (and won't finance the next Scott installment in the prequels), some of these theories have to be re-checked (and the black goo can be ignored). Also, Ridley Scott himself said last december that Prometheus and Covenant weren't actual prequels but re-imagination, reboots, and were meant to launch a new timeline and finally not be linked at all to the first Alien movie. Like if he was trying to make amends to fans cause of the colossal Covenant financial/critical flop.

[@Donnirononon]

Personally i like the Prometheus / Covenant explaination most: In the cut scenes it is explained that the Xenomorph Ornament seen on the wall in Prometheus is the Deacon, the first Chestburster and an actually very intelligent and benevolent being. The Engineers could no longer procreate and so they used the Deacon's golden blood to (pro-)create new engineer like life. Once the Deacons blood ran out, they created the black goo in it's image but instead of mutating and creating it created horrors. Mind, in Prometheus the very first scene shows an, very relifiously dressed, engineer drinking GOLDEN goo before breaking his DNA and spreading it.

[@blasty137]

Prometheus and Covenant are by far the dumbest Alien movies and it's not an easy competition since pretty much everything made after Aliens has been bad.

[@nicholasslepnikoff9771]

Great video!!! I love the deep dive into the xenomorph's rich lore as well as your well thought out exposition into my favorite movie monster. Nothing can beat these apex predators as a collective and their power is awesome and frightening to behold. You did a good job showing that. I love that you/they are now saying that it acts as the great filter for those who have reached such technological advancement that they are able to travel the stars. Not only does it add a cosmic horror vibe to it, but it also places them at the center of it all (meaning of life etc). Itll be interesting to see where this franchise goes. I just hope that it gets good directors who create great movies and doesnt let just any dipsh!t with a camera take a 💩 on such a well thought out intellectual property. Have a wonderful day as well, sir!!

[@user-roninwolf1981]

I remember hearing that the planet David and the Covenant visited was not at all the Engineer homeworld, but was in fact just another world seeded by the Engineers, and the indigenous humanoids were just another child race that did have ongoing contact with the Engineers themselves. Another thing I recall hearing was that David didn't create the Xenomorphs as we know them, but rather he simply created a completely independent strain that just happened to be nearly identical to the original strain that was still marooned on LV-426 at this point in time. So TLDR: he simply recreated an identical strain on a separate planet.

[@NEUR0MANCER_]

You are exactly right. Seems this dude who made the video, ddidnt dig any deeper to what has been told to us through unfinished and under utilized aspects of the Prometheus script. Which are all still canon, just scott got lindelhack to turn it all into amyster box nonsense.

[@tylerlogan4747]

Agreed, I mean they ran to the engineers ship more like something of prayer or joy of a returning god. You'd think some bioweapon meant to wipe out a planet known about by their kind wouldn't get into system let alone to the surface

[@carrieroflight5633]

Nice idea but Ridley Scott confirmed they are “Engineers”

[@NEUR0MANCER_]

@@carrieroflight5633 no he didnt he said they were not.

[@Sanjeron6]

I had to stop halfway through, due to all the inaccuracies. The one I couldn’t move past was the reference to David and the “planet of Engineers,” but those weren’t Engineers at all. It was a planet that had been seeded by Engineers, same as earth, so another batch of genetic progeny.

[@Iva-k2h]

Another Marvelous video! Keep up the good work!

[@Quimper111]

Video begins at 1:20.

[@GemheartGamming]

wait, did the predators create the xenomorphs for the hunting and trials of young bloods? i think i remember either hearing or reading something along the lines of that.

[@WhiteIkiryo-yt2it]

The Predators didn't create the Xenomorphs but merely farmed them for the purpose of the ultimate hunt. This was addressed in AVP which shows the implanting of Chest Bursters into the Predators ' human worshippers and a hunting party realising they have failed so they detonate their wrist bombs and wipe out the horde they created. I don't know if any other sources claim the Predators created the Xenomorphs so that might be out there.

[@GemheartGamming]

@@WhiteIkiryo-yt2it yeah i seen the movie and that why i thought predators made the xenos.. guess i was wrong

[@stringwhore]

Yeah but that's just something they say... like a myth

[@maxrander0101]

i always thought that they were a race that was natural at one point but the engineers found them and during a time of war they molded their DNA into what it is today and thus created the Xenomorphs we know in the movies after all our own kind has done things like it not changing the DNA but by adapting the way an animal will react to us we did it with Dogs when we started taming them we created entire new breeds of them over time

[@AsifAAli]

I, the left out Deacon in Prometheus, approve this content!

[@Louey_]

It depends on which side of the bed mr Scott gets out of every morning

[@graterthan3628]

I hate that everything has to be "created" just let them be an alien species that evolved like most other animals.

[@Cubert0331]

The assumption about xenomorphs for as long as I remember and I grew up adoring the aliens movies, original avp and avp2 on PC all those years ago (ah such great games) but xenos were always implicated to be a bioweapon of some kind. Kind of get the same feeling for the creatures in a quiet place. We haven't gotten any major clues as to that now but just my 2 cents.

[@user-us5dr2qi2r]

Having david create the Aliens was a good way to kill the mystery, at least in the dark horse comics the Aliens just were.

[@dougefresh2208]

I mean he may have made like a version of them but there are obviosuly more variations of these creatures. we see like 3 versions of the things in the prequels alone. Also the engineers had murals of similar species from thpusands of years earlier.Whether they found the black goo shit or made it is still a mystery

[@dougefresh2208]

I mean he may have made like a version of them but there are obviosuly more variations of these creatures. we see like 3 versions of the things in the prequels alone. Also the engineers had murals of similar species from thpusands of years earlier.Whether they found the black goo shit or made it is still a mystery

[@greendan01]

Most of their lifecycle is covered pretty well in the various Alien Vs Predator novels. It's speculated that the predators 'seed' them on planets to hunt as part of their Hunter initiation ritual, using a captured queen to produce eggs. They called them the 'Hard Meat'. A real challenge to kill. Why would they do this? Well, their culture is based around sport-hunting. The challenge is to kill them all before they multiply out of control. And it's never really stated, but it's implied that they were species engineered for planetary clearing, by some sort of progenitor advanced culture (the engineers hinted at in the first alien movie, and shown again in Prometheus) and the predators just sort of picked them up. Humans on the other hand were called the 'Soft Meat'. Weak, and not really a challenge but potentially very dangerous.

[@scoobypup01]

Alien Resurrection gives a great example as towards how they communicate with each other

[@mrcuttime22]

Another big mystery for me was how the newborn xeno could acquire mass so fast, particularly without eating anything. Both the "chest-burster" and whatever came out of Dr. Shaw could only suck maybe hydraulic fluid and eat metal or rubber, yet grew much heavier very quickly. If that mass were compact before they came out, their hosts couldn't possibly have carried them.

[@fcuk_x]

Trying to explain somebody's wild fantasy?

[@Tracks2008]

Well the chest-burster in Alien was supposed to be shown entering the food storage area and eating quite a bit of the food there before it would molt into the drone we see a few hours later. Sadly that scene was cut from the film.

[@origami83]

That is a little annoyance i have aswell, fast growth is fine but it still needs to feed on something.

[@Tracks2008]

@@origami83 Yeah it is a bit annoying that most media depicts them as growing super fast without eating but at least in the first film it was supposed to get into the area were food was stored and eat quite a bit. Too bad that scene got cut. In Aliens we don't know the exact timeframe between the first guy getting facehugged and the aliens taking over the entire colony. So in this case they could have done some off screen eating.

[@brandoncutler09]

Weird…a couple of years ago I actually had a dream of myself floating in an abyss and came across a xenomorph or what looked like one

[@jarrodreaves243]

Hey I thought there was an older comic that hashed the mind hive thing college daughter

[@gabrielmartins7642]

concise and got to the point very fast, very satisfied

[@verlandes1]

My head cannon is that the engineers name for the black goo was Shub-Niggurath and that it is in fact a deity.

[@shadowehadventures399]

You forgot the most important questions of them all. Can they evolve past beyond their basic instincts? Can they stop being violent killers? Can they make the collective decision to Ascend beyond such limited primitive living? Do they always have to be evil?

[@joeygay7115]

The original dead space jockey look alot bigger compared to humans in the original alien movie compared to Prometheus. I would def watch a movie about the original space jockey and what led to him to die by the xenos/chest burster

[@andrewg7576]

I have always thought the first Xeno of a batch becomes the Queen so can build the hive, and then subsequent Xenos don't reach that level because a queen already exists.

[@robertfuller2196]

You realize Ridley Scott answered ALL this, right?

[@trenchcoatbandit]

xenos= slivers and tyranids

[@jenb.3620]

I don't like the explanations, I loved the original movies and AVP was pretty cool. Phometous and Covenant was too confusing and distracting from what I enjoy most about the story and the aliens. The aliens are scary and having the humas trying to survive and live never gets old like western cowboy movies or saving the galaxy and the force. But Aliens should 100% stay sci-fi horror and keep the blood and gore! :)

[@SeanMahoneyfitnessandart]

But the thing is... thats not all there is to it.... those movies were of course based on comic books and novels going back to the 1950s.. these explanations tell the story in far more detail with all the pertinent back stories that could never be shown in a 2 hour movie.. these are for people who want to understand character motivation and deeper aspects to the overall story.

[@JehBasquiat]

God I love that little "W" logo on his finger when he's got the black goo on it, so subtle but cool.

[@johnmitchell2269]

I admire its purity. A survivor, unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality.

[@whitenuttergoku7310]

Being able to tap into the hive mind of the xenomorphs genetic memory unlocks the history of the universe

[@CinnamonGirk]

This was a nice watch.

[@Fernandonelu]

Awesome video bro

[@NathanAllebach]

"The questions ARE questions" so true king

[@ryanhoneycutt9685]

Honest question here. Why do people hate Prometheus so much? Alien fans seem to despise the movie, but it is one of my favorite from the alien franchise.

[@AgentSapphire]

I don't think anyone is against terrifying progenitor black goo that creates eldritch monstrosities. It fits into the alien franchise well as both a world seeder and bio weapon. It's the execution of the movie as a whole I personally have problems with. The acting was all hit and miss and the concept as a whole was executed in a very sloppy way. Not technically but thematically. (No spoilers i promise) Contrast that with something like Romulus which executed its plot very well with decent general acting, a strong lead, consistent and strong themes, and extremely strong technical execution. It's a much more focused product. In this regard Promethius lacks polish. It had good ideas but didn't sell them as well as it could have. I don't like promethius because I see what it was trying to do and I'm sad that something, be it budget, script, direction, disagreement, or studio, prevented it from becoming the movie that it should have been.

[@Garycarlyle]

That just means you have a bad taste in movies.

[@ryanhoneycutt9685]

@@Garycarlyle I liked Alien Covent too. I was hoping they were going to make a third one as well.

[@QenaitheCustodianGuard]

The first comic discussed is so well drawn.

[@aaronp9835]

Ur the best narrater on this channel.

[@tommorales2371]

Thank you for the video !! ALIENS franchise is one of the best sci-fi stories Ever told.. Love it.